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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: MrNubbz on November 25, 2024, 07:43:21 AM
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Michigan is back to its traditional position - looking up to tOSU in Big Ten standings. Before Stalions they hadn't dominated squat since The Era of Tuberculosis and Covered Wagons.In an odd way though I'm going to miss Booger,I respected his troll game enough - He's a cheating shit head for sure, but he's at least somewhat entertaining as a villain. He always seemed to moan and contort his face like he took to many gas station boner pills. But beat the posse out of Dodge he did.
Well at least Mel Tucker ended up undefeated against Harbaugh. And with more major bowl victories in the same time frame - 3rd party smack talk for sure but at least refreshing
Any how Ohio State with w/o it's two best O-lineman could have a game on it's hands with M's tough line and a seemingly resurgent Offense. Moore will pull out all the stops to win this one as will the seniors. game is in the 'Shoe so there's that. Just hope Sherrone keeps his time clock management skills in place for this one. Wouldn't be shocked by any score tbh,hoping the walvies go behind the woodshed to restore some order. Over to you slappies distinguished colleagues
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Michigan is going to have a tough time doing anything on offense.
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I hope the M guys REALLY enjoyed a couple seasons of winning and their tainted title, cause it now looks like they will be paying for it for the foreseeable future
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Michigan is going to have a tough time doing anything on offense.
I sure hope you are right!
Ohio State's defense has been a little weird. Statistically they are phenomenal and they have been lights out for long stretches but they also just seem to forget to play once in a while. Also, they have this weird penchant for starting SLOW. Two examples:
Against Penn State:
The Nittany Lions first drive went 61 yards in 14 plays for a FG but their next scoring drive wasn't until the third quarter and in between those two, tOSU only allowed:
- 3-and-out
- 3-and-out
- 6 plays, 30 yards, punt
- 7 plays, 46 yards, int
Against Indiana the contrast is even more stark. On their first drive the Hoosiers offense looked like a hot knife cutting through butter. They methodically drove 70 yards in 11 plays to take an early 7-0 lead. Indiana's next scoring drive was in garbage time when they were down by 24 late in the 4th quarter. In between those:
- 6 plays, 8 yards, punt
- 3-and-out
- 3 plays, 7 yards, fumble
- 8 plays, -4 yards, blocked punt
- 3-and-out
- 5 plays, 32 yards, punt
- 3-and-out
In both games the defense came out and kinda gave us tOSU fans a scare by giving up a ton of yards on the very first possession but then they locked down and looked fantastic.
Even with the slow starts, if they can perform at the level they did against PSU and IU, it is hard for me to see a viable path to victory for the visitors on Saturday.
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I wonder if Penn St fans refer to this week as "no rivalry" week
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I hope the M guys REALLY enjoyed a couple seasons of winning and their tainted title, cause it now looks like they will be paying for it for the foreseeable future
Eh, now that they are on board with NIL I'm guessing they'll be fine
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I'm not sold on the coaching staff
no amount of money can overcome poor coaching
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I'm not sold on the coaching staff
no amount of money can overcome poor coaching
The NCAA is likely to bail them out on that front.
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I hope so, along with a bunch of vacated wins
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Hey-hey-hey it's not the only game ya know - but I like the way you're all thinking.Who you guys got in Farmageddon?ND-USC,Clemson-USCe,Badgers -2 vs the Goophs,MSU vs NJ State these should be some close games
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gonna turn into a Ohio St bashing Michigan thread anyway
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OK, I'll play along
Just for Mr. Nubbz
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POTFH!
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I cannot recall the last old oaken bucket night game.
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I sure hope you are right!
Ohio State's defense has been a little weird. Statistically they are phenomenal and they have been lights out for long stretches but they also just seem to forget to play once in a while. Also, they have this weird penchant for starting SLOW. Two examples:
Against Penn State:
The Nittany Lions first drive went 61 yards in 14 plays for a FG but their next scoring drive wasn't until the third quarter and in between those two, tOSU only allowed:
- 3-and-out
- 3-and-out
- 6 plays, 30 yards, punt
- 7 plays, 46 yards, int
Against Indiana the contrast is even more stark. On their first drive the Hoosiers offense looked like a hot knife cutting through butter. They methodically drove 70 yards in 11 plays to take an early 7-0 lead. Indiana's next scoring drive was in garbage time when they were down by 24 late in the 4th quarter. In between those:
- 6 plays, 8 yards, punt
- 3-and-out
- 3 plays, 7 yards, fumble
- 8 plays, -4 yards, blocked punt
- 3-and-out
- 5 plays, 32 yards, punt
- 3-and-out
In both games the defense came out and kinda gave us tOSU fans a scare by giving up a ton of yards on the very first possession but then they locked down and looked fantastic.
Even with the slow starts, if they can perform at the level they did against PSU and IU, it is hard for me to see a viable path to victory for the visitors on Saturday.
It's almost as though they both scripted their opening drive.
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I cannot recall the last old oaken bucket night game.
I cant recall there even being one, but I also believe the Big Ten had the "no night game in November" rule until 2012ish
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I cant recall there even being one, but I also believe the Big Ten had the "no night game in November" rule until 2012ish
Made it back to 2001, and didnt find any, and I feel pretty confident there were none prior to that, so this would be the first.
In 2020 they postponed once and the scheduled makeup game was 7:30, and then was outright cancelled
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I had never thought about what UCLA does when USC plays ND rivalry week. Fresno, huh?
When did they switch Maryland from Rutgers to Penn State? Is it on a rotation? I don't recall Penn State protecting any annual rivalries.
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Penn state should be playing Pitt
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What about WVU,the back yard brawl
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OK
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I had never thought about what UCLA does when USC plays ND rivalry week. Fresno, huh?
When did they switch Maryland from Rutgers to Penn State? Is it on a rotation? I don't recall Penn State protecting any annual rivalries.
It has been on a rotation ever since they joined the league. MSU-PSU was never a real rivalry, but they spent 20 years selling it. So at least it became a tradition, if not a rivalry. then they added Maryland and Rutgers to the rotation, to make sure you always have two games that nobody cares about
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Our rival is a dumpster fire. Will be glad to piss on them to put it out. The most epic collapse in modern college football history couldn't have happened to a more perfect program.
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is that ucf v uconn rivalry still a thing? relegated to native Floridians getting sassy with the snowbirds from Connecticut since Covid.
this is indeed the first 'night' kickoff for Purdue v IU.
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Does Indiana take out their frustrations on poor ole Purdue? Or is it one of those Spoilermaker/OSU beasts them twice, sorta things?
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Does Indiana take out their frustrations on poor ole Purdue? Or is it one of those Spoilermaker/OSU beasts them twice, sorta things?
Considering the Boilers place in the standings it would be borderline shock the world. And it certainly would shock IU officials wondering why they backed up the trucks for Cignetti
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What makes a contest a rivalry game? I think we all know the main parts, anything else?
Proximity (Usually, ND-USC aside).
History/tradition
Competitiveness (No side really dominates).
You could add national significance, but I don't think that is always required but it helps. Alabama-Auburn is often considered the 2nd or 3rd "best" rivalry game even though one team has dominated, usually, and the other has a somewhat mediocre history.
USCe-Clemson is big in that state.
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I had never thought about what UCLA does when USC plays ND rivalry week. Fresno, huh?
Back in the Pac-12, the week before Thanksgiving you would have
USC-UCLA, Cal-Stan
Then the week of Thanksgiving, UCLA would play Cal.
Other years, UCLA would just take Thanksgiving week off.
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Yup, lots of schools finished before Thanksgiving back in the day. Wasn't the Michigan - Ohio State game usually played before T-day?
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Our rival is a dumpster fire. Will be glad to piss on them to put it out. The most epic collapse in modern college football history couldn't have happened to a more perfect program.
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I have no love for FSU but I'm cool with some of their fans...
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1823 Days Since Ohio State Last beat Michigan
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I hope so, along with a bunch of vacated wins
Not going to happen. Stop playing with yourself.
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4 years since Michigan hasn't cheated .One year since 4 coaches were fired and the Head coach beat the posse out of Dodge
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I hope so, along with a bunch of vacated wins
Testify Fearless Testify
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Yup, lots of schools finished before Thanksgiving back in the day. Wasn't the Michigan - Ohio State game usually played before T-day?
Yes, and back in the days of the 11-team Big Ten, not only did the Big Ten finish the week before Thanksgiving, but there was always 1 team left out during rivalry week.
After PSU joined, PSU and MSU started playing each other in the last game of the season.
For a few years Iowa-Minn-Wisc did a 3 team rotation, where 2 teams played the last week and the other team had to find an OOC game to play, or else be done 2 weeks before Thanksgiving.
In the late 80's, before PSU joined, Iowa would play Minn and MSU would play Wisc during the last week.
Going way back to the 50"s and early 60's, Iowa would often play Notre Dame in the last game of the season. Iowa eventually cancelled the series after the famous fainting Irish game where the Irish faked injuries to stop the clock and score a last second TD.
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I had never thought about what UCLA does when USC plays ND rivalry week. Fresno, huh?
When did they switch Maryland from Rutgers to Penn State? Is it on a rotation? I don't recall Penn State protecting any annual rivalries.
This needs to stop.
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This needs to stop.
Huh? Why?
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Huh? Why?
F ND
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Ed Zachery!
Dat's why
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Yes, and back in the days of the 11-team Big Ten, not only did the Big Ten finish the week before Thanksgiving, but there was always 1 team left out during rivalry week.
After PSU joined, PSU and MSU started playing each other in the last game of the season.
For a few years Iowa-Minn-Wisc did a 3 team rotation, where 2 teams played the last week and the other team had to find an OOC game to play, or else be done 2 weeks before Thanksgiving.
In the late 80's, before PSU joined, Iowa would play Minn and MSU would play Wisc during the last week.
Going way back to the 50"s and early 60's, Iowa would often play Notre Dame in the last game of the season. Iowa eventually cancelled the series after the famous fainting Irish game where the Irish faked injuries to stop the clock and score a last second TD.
The Badgers went to Hawaii quite a bit, as a reward for the players and fans. They also hosted pastries at times.
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1823 Days Since Ohio State Last beat Michigan
It astounds me that you guys are proud of flagrant cheating but ok:
Michigan's last legitimate win over Ohio State was 13 years ago today, November 26, 2011. That is 4,749 days ago.
In the 1,823 days since Ohio State's 56-27 win on November 30, 2019 we had:
- Michigan's dirty coach faked a COVID outbreak to avoid his beatdown in 2020.
- Michigan "won" three times while operating the worst cheating scandal in modern CFB.
Oh, and prior to this illegitimate streak by your dirty cheaters, Ohio State won eight straight from 2012-2019 so there were 3,654 days between Michigan's win in 2011 and their win* in 2021.
*Soon to be vacated due to Michigan's unethical behavior.
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Yes, and back in the days of the 11-team Big Ten, not only did the Big Ten finish the week before Thanksgiving, but there was always 1 team left out during rivalry week.
After PSU joined, PSU and MSU started playing each other in the last game of the season.
For a few years Iowa-Minn-Wisc did a 3 team rotation, where 2 teams played the last week and the other team had to find an OOC game to play, or else be done 2 weeks before Thanksgiving.
In the late 80's, before PSU joined, Iowa would play Minn and MSU would play Wisc during the last week.
Going way back to the 50"s and early 60's, Iowa would often play Notre Dame in the last game of the season. Iowa eventually cancelled the series after the famous fainting Irish game where the Irish faked injuries to stop the clock and score a last second TD.
There were certain years, I think when the calendar fell a certain way, where the final week was Thanksgiving. 1995 and 2001 I believe for certain did. But yes typically the opposite was the case. I believe they decided to change it the last couple years of 11 teams, because most other conferences had by that point, and several had CCGs, so Big Ten teams had an extra 2 weeks off. Mix in the NCG moving deeper into January, and I think by 2006/2007, Ohio State had like 6 weeks off between the Michigan game and the national championship
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Big ten changed cause with no games the last couple weeks the media had nothing to talk about.
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1823 Days Since Ohio State Last beat Michigan when Michigan didn't cheat.
Fixed it for you
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This is NOT a dead horse.
Michigan fans were still crowing over Tressel's MUCH less significant transgressions immediately prior to their own scandal. Additionally, the NCAA process hasn't fully played out yet. The punishments haven't yet been formalized. The current HC obstructed the NCAA investigation and was promoted by the dirty institution AFTER they knew about that. It will never be a dead horse after they did that.
This is nowhere close to a dead horse.
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From my perspective (this board) it's a dead horse.
The NCAA isn't going to do damn thing. They have no power whatsoever.
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The Badgers went to Hawaii quite a bit, as a reward for the players and fans. They also hosted pastries at times.
Yes, sometimes Iowa hosted a cupcake in its last game, but it backfired one year in 2007 when Iowa got upset by WMU and missed a bowl game, dropping to 6-6.
2007 was one of those weird years when 10 out of 11 Big Ten teams were bowl elligible, and only had 8 slots available. So the 2 teams that went 6-6 stayed home.
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This is NOT a dead horse.
Additionally, the NCAA process hasn't fully played out yet. The punishments haven't yet been formalized.
Oh yes it has they're letting Central Michigan have it,teach that whoor Ann Arbor a lesson once and for all
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There was also 1995, the year that gave us the worst Thanksgiving game in the history of bad Thanksgiving games--and the last tie in CFB history: Wisconsin 3, Illinois 3. Another moment I was happy to be doing something that precluded watching a Badger game.
And Badge, ND at USC--and you complaining about ND in any way possible--is proof that college football hasn't lost all of its traditions, at least not yet. :-)
This year, the University of Second Choice has a real opportunity to screw up the Irish season--even more than NIU did.
Cal-UCLA was never a real rivalry. UCLA's only real rival is USC.
I like Wisconsin/Minnesota as an end-of-the-season rivalry game, but I can't for the life of me figure out why Wisconsin is -2. I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I would put some money on the Goophs.
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There was also 1995, the year that gave us the worst Thanksgiving game in the history of bad Thanksgiving games--and the last tie in CFB history: Wisconsin 3, Illinois 3. Another moment I was happy to be doing something that precluded watching a Badger game.
And Badge, ND at USC--and you complaining about ND in any way possible--is proof that college football hasn't lost all of its traditions, at least not yet. :-)
This year, the University of Second Choice has a real opportunity to screw up the Irish season--even more than NIU did.
Cal-UCLA was never a real rivalry. UCLA's only real rival is USC.
I like Wisconsin/Minnesota as an end-of-the-season rivalry game, but I can't for the life of me figure out why Wisconsin is -2. I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I would put some money on the Goophs.
I was waiting for that one. :)
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There was also 1995, the year that gave us the worst Thanksgiving game in the history of bad Thanksgiving games--and the last tie in CFB history: Wisconsin 3, Illinois 3. Another moment I was happy to be doing something that precluded watching a Badger game.
And Badge, ND at USC--and you complaining about ND in any way possible--is proof that college football hasn't lost all of its traditions, at least not yet. :-)
This year, the University of Second Choice has a real opportunity to screw up the Irish season--even more than NIU did.
Cal-UCLA was never a real rivalry. UCLA's only real rival is USC.
I like Wisconsin/Minnesota as an end-of-the-season rivalry game, but I can't for the life of me figure out why Wisconsin is -2. I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I would put some money on the Goophs.
Its at Wisconsin
I would lay money on the Badgers if i gambled. they need 1 game to be bowl eligible and have more to play for. bounces will go Wisc way -this will end up being a close game probably a final possession type game
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The Badger D gives me no confidence that they will be able to stop the Gopher run game. Just look at what Iowa and Nebraska did to them. Yes, it could be a close game, and I think the Badgers will be motivated to a) keep the 22-year bowl streak intact and b) keep the Axe. This would be the first time in a long time that the trophy case is empty.
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Its at Wisconsin
I would lay money on the Badgers if i gambled. they need 1 game to be bowl eligible and have more to play for. bounces will go Wisc way -this will end up being a close game probably a final possession type game
Plus Minn is coming off an emotional 1-pt loss to PSU and is traveling on a short week for an 11:30 start. I expect Minn to run out of gas in 2H.
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Plus Minn is coming off an emotional 1-pt loss to PSU and is traveling on a short week for an 11:30 start. I expect Minn to run out of gas in 2H.
Wisconsin is coming off of an emotional beatdown at the hands of a team they hadn't lost to since the 2012 regular season.
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Plus Minn is coming off an emotional 1-pt loss to PSU and is traveling on a short week for an 11:30 start. I expect Minn to run out of gas in 2H.
the Gophers have plenty of gas
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Plus Minn is coming off an emotional 1-pt loss to PSU and is traveling on a short week for an 11:30 start. I expect Minn to run out of gas in 2H.
This sounds more like a "coming out flat from the start" situation.
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I know the Gophers hate Iowa but, ...........
the Gophers REALLY hate the Badgers
I'll be shocked if they are flat
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I'll be shocked if they are flat
All that training should keep the moobs at bay. Maybe not some of the linemen.
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I doubt that the Gophers are going to come out flat. PJ already has two wins at Camp Randall (and arguably should have 3), and did so with strong starts in all of those.
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Yeah, I have very little confidence in this Badger team. I think Minnesota is a typically solid middle-of-the-old-Big-Ten-pack team. The Badgers do not appear to be. As has been pointed out elsewhere, they seem very Jeckyl and Hyde, given their convincing wins and their gross losses. I guess they played Penn State and Oregon pretty strong at home, notwithstanding the losses, so there is some reason to think they will look better at Camp Randall than they did in Lincoln. But Minnesota will grind away, and Wisconsin hasn't beaten a team that consistently does that.
I hope the Badgers suprise me, but my guess is that the bowl streak ends.
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I’m at home and a friend with a tight schedule could do something around the start of the Axe game. I figured I’d catch the end, but after the Nebraska game, not the most mad to be somewhat out of pocket for the bulk of it.
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The Badgers are gonna kick Goldy's ass in front of 45K people in Camp Randall.
So there.
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The Badgers are gonna kick Goldy's ass in front of 45K people in Camp Randall.
So there.
Beginning or end of the game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znsHw_gDoxw
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Yeah, I have very little confidence in this Badger team. I think Minnesota is a typically solid middle-of-the-old-Big-Ten-pack team. The Badgers do not appear to be. As has been pointed out elsewhere, they seem very Jeckyl and Hyde, given their convincing wins and their gross losses. I guess they played Penn State and Oregon pretty strong at home, notwithstanding the losses, so there is some reason to think they will look better at Camp Randall than they did in Lincoln. But Minnesota will grind away, and Wisconsin hasn't beaten a team that consistently does that.
I hope the Badgers suprise me, but my guess is that the bowl streak ends.
I think you are overly down on the Badgers. They got screwed by the schedule gods.
HFA is hard to understand because it isn't the same thing for all teams. HFA is most beneficial in the most closely matched games. Thus, if your team is really good, you want your best opponents at home. Ie, this season:
- If you are Oregon you want Ohio State at home. Oregon actually got their best two B1G opponents at home and beat tOSU by 1 and Illinois by 29.
- If you are Purdue you want your worst opponents at home.
- If you are middling Wisconsin you want other middling teams at home.
Wisconsin's schedule sucked because they got HFA in a bunch of games where it didn't do them any good:
- They got Oregon at home and lost by three.
- They got Penn State at home and lost by 15.
- They got Purdue at home and won by 45.
My argument is that HFA didn't help the Badgers in any of those games.
Then they played on the road and lost at Iowa, USC, and Nebraska. Given that none of those games were particularly close maybe it didn't matter but I'd like UW's chances a lot better in Madison. I also like their chances against Minnesota in Madison.
Wisconsin has some really good performances. Losing to Oregon by 3 is the second best game against Oregon this year behind only Ohio State's losing by one. Beating Purdue by 46 is the best performance this year against Purdue, up there with tOSU (45), PSU (39 in W. Laf), and Ore (35 in W. Laf). My point is that when UW plays well, they are close to the top-4. The problem is that when they play poorly they are close to the bottom three.
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Playing Oregon at home helped Wisconsin, just didn't help them win. :96:
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Playing Oregon at home helped Wisconsin, just didn't help them win. :96:
I agree and that is my point. In terms of records/standings a loss is a loss. If you figure HFA is worth 3-5 then that 3 point loss at home to Oregon is a 9-13 point loss in Eugene but either one of those is one loss in terms of final standings.
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Bugeaters 2-8 the last 10
1-6 when Brian was the Hawks OC 😜
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Bugeaters 2-8 the last 10
1-6 when Brian was the Hawks OC 😜
so what?
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I am sure you have heard these before. These jokes are over 40 years old.
What does the N on the Nebraska helmet stand for? Nowledge! (This joke works better if it's told verbally)
Why does the Corn in Iowa always lean to the West? Because Nebraska sucks (and Illinois blows)
Why does Minnesota play on artificial turf? So the cheerleaders won't graze.
What does the average Iowa State student get on the ACT test? Drool.
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yup, since I'm over 60, I know them all too well
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Who calls the Minn-Wisc game the border battle? Even I know It's called the battle for the axe!
Also I feel so bad for Ohio St and Michigan. Their rivalry is so lame. They have had a hundred years to come up with a catchy rivalry name and a cool trophy. I mean iowa and Nebraska came up with the Heroes game name and a cool trophy in like 2 seconds after it was announced they would be Black Friday rivals every year. OSU amd Mich got to get with the times (I'm kidding, I'm kidding)
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so what?
https://youtu.be/Q0X-oA2l-1E?t=9
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the man's a MENACE!
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Brian??? ;D
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Who calls the Minn-Wisc game the border battle? Even I know It's called the battle for the axe!
Nobody.
However, Minnie and UW do have a Border Battle trophy - played across all sports. The AXE game is worth 40 points.
The Illinois/NU thing is lame. Call it what it is (was)! It's The Tomahawk Trophy!!
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you got anything for the yella jackets?
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Iron Bowl, The Game headline most heated college football rivalries on display in Week 14 (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/longformarticle/the-game-iron-bowl-headline-most-heated-college-football-rivalries-on-display-in-week-14-240467977/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2dVaZ_01Ajy3gmoUqa1T8txCiscRTGxZccPZioA1zjmYeHf_Sf-QYIvOU_aem_agjW8h0xFID_PUOsFXyNOw)
I would have put Oklahoma-LSU at the top.
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I'm hopin for a Sooner/Husker bowl game
not sure what needs to happen to improve those odds but, ...........
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only 1 college football game on this evening???
that's BS!!!
is Memphis/Tulane even a rivalry???
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only 1 college football game on this evening???
that's BS!!!
is Memphis/Tulane even a rivalry???
A few years back the NFL took over T-day night, and now the networks don't want to put any college football up against it because they know their ratings will get blown out of the water.
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only 1 college football game on this evening???
that's BS!!!
is Memphis/Tulane even a rivalry???
One or both is probably gonna be looking for a coach tomorrow.
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A few years back the NFL took over T-day night, and now the networks don't want to put any college football up against it because they know their ratings will get blown out of the water.
They took over Thursday nights all season, which is why college stopped scheduling good Thursday games. The antitrust exemption prevents them from playing Friday or Saturday games until after Thanksgiving, but says nothing about Thursday
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I don't think there is any way UGA beats the Institute by 18 points tomorrow. This is Tech's Super Bowl x 1000% every year. If the Techmites were to somehow beat the hated Dwags Behind the Bushes, all 4 women on the Tech campus would end up pregnant. I look for Beck's Butterfingers to drop at least4 catchable passes on 3rd down alone but the Red and Black to prevail 23-14.
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And Happy Thanksgiving all!
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is Memphis/Tulane even a rivalry???
They play for the Riverboat Overalls....not a trophy, an actual set of overalls.
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One or both is probably gonna be looking for a coach tomorrow.
a couple 9-2 coaches on the choppin block????
Who do they think they ARE???? Nebraska!!!
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One or both is probably gonna be looking for a coach tomorrow.
I believe the Tulane coach is waiting on his former boss at Kentucky to decide if he’s gonna hit the trail.
The Memphis coach is an odd spot. He has been pretty good, but kind of uneven. He certainly isn’t generating much enthusiasm. So I can imagine him looking for a get out of town job, but I’m not sure yet what that would be.
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UNC needs a coach. First of many.
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Badgers need a coach?
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OC and DC.
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UNC needs a coach. First of many.
Do you think this will be an unusually large firing year? I can't think of a few higher profile programs that have done an FSU.
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I think USC is going to open up.
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USCe had a nice year, the other one not so much. I might start referring to USCe as THE USC soon.
I have no idea of Norvell's buy out conditions, and they had a mostly good season last year.
LSU? Probably not.
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I think LSU will consider a change.
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I think some at LSU will talk about it but not push for it very hard. The Vandy coach might get scarfed. I wonder if Penn State will be happy if they continue to win most games and lose to the elite teams routinely. (Maybe they try hiring a Vandy coach.)
UCLA seems to have a door that revolves.
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I have a hunch the following coaches will soon be gone
Mike Locksley ar MD
Gus Malzahn at UCF
Some are saying Ryan Walters at Purdue. But it seems kinda early to me to fire Walters. Usually you just need to show some kind of progress. Purdue did lose a couple of games in OT and was the only team that had play all 4 top-4 teams in the Big Ten. I say he gets another year.
Locksley has had enough years at MD to prove himself and get MD over that hump, but I think he just doesn't have it as a head coach.
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I hope Arkansas keeps Pittman, I like him a lot as an individual.
SEC fans react to bombshell report on Arkansas head football coach Sam Pittman’s future with Razorbacks | Sporting News (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/sec-fans-react-bombshell-report-arkansas-head-football-coach-sam-pittman-future-razorbacks/1d1433d83b61df85f66befc7#:~:text=Policy Privacy Preferences-,SEC fans react to bombshell report on Arkansas head,Sam Pittman's future with)
I think Florida made the right decision.
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I think LSU will consider a change.
Not quite yet but that seat is getting hot. Next year will be BK’s make or break year at LSU imo. If he isn’t in contention for the SEC CG and fails to make the playoff- he’s likely toast.
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OC and DC.
Michigan needs the same.
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As far as THE GAME goes, Michigan has basically zero shot. And negative zero if star CB Will Johnson & star TE Colston Loveland both can’t go. Will Johnson appears to have just shut it down the NFL draft and Loveland has been dealing with a nagging shoulder injury.
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can't win if ya don't score
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Plus Minn is coming off an emotional 1-pt loss to PSU and is traveling on a short week for an 11:30 start. I expect Minn to run out of gas in 2H.
well, the goophs didn't come out flat
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Will Johnson officially out. Dude literally just said nah fuck this season, I’m out to the top 5-10 of the nfl draft.
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LSU can't afford the buyout right now. They're gonna ride or die for a couple more years probably.
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Cincy's Dawgs are down 10-0.
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Will Johnson officially out. Dude literally just said nah fuck this season, I’m out to the top 5-10 of the nfl draft.
Modern college football
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Cincy's Dawgs are down 10-0.
And missed a chip-shot FG, and was able to stop UGA on a 4th and short. Why doesn't everyone just play with their hair on fire?!?
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Iowa also down 10-0 to Nebraska.
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how tf is Georgia down 17-0 at half to GaTech? No one plays with their food quite like Georgia.
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Tech might be alive on the plate.
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And missed a chip-shot FG, and was able to stop UGA on a 4th and short. Why doesn't everyone just play with their hair on fire?!?
I know right?
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Why is UGA going for 2 there?!?
Are they gonna onside kick too?
I advocate for PLAYING with your hair on fire, not COACHING with your hair on fire.
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Iowa-Neb tied 10-10 early in 4Q
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'Skers NOOOOO
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Already some crazy rivalry stuff yesterday, I expect to see more today.
Sure wish our game were earlier, I really don't want to wait all day long. I'll be watching other games and putting up Christmas decorations, that should help pass the time.
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I keep forgetting yesterday was Friday, so my internal stress is "off", sort of, I can watch games and enjoy whatever happens. Cool.
It's a frigid almost intolerable 33°F here right now. I'm not sure I will survive.
After the Dawgs fell behind like 77-6 last night, I switched over to watching Apollo 13 with my wife. This new cable box apparently comes with a bunch of free movie channels (???) and better reception, but her TV upstairs doesn't have one yet, we get one "free", the second is $130. The good news is I was paying $7 a month for the second box, that should go away.
My TV must be 10+ years old, it's a 1 K 65", and it looks really good now. This probably saved me $2500.
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Fans on the winning side don't often complain about officiating ...
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yup, feels like Monday after two days "off"
I have no plans for today, except watching some football on the 65" TV
I checked a 75 incher yesterday, but it won't fit on my current cabinet/table whatever
13 degrees here with chance of flurries - I'll stay inside
I have an option to sign up for a black market illegal streaming TV service. Every channel there is. Movie channels, NFL Ticket, MLB, everything. $120/year but you pay 2 years in advance - $240. You get two Fire Sticks. so Two TVs. About once a quarter or less they change the scrambling on a few bigtime channels....... you simply call the number to let them know and in a few minutes it's resolved.
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13 degrees here with chance of flurries - I'll stay inside
Poor bastage it's a balmy 24° here with maybe some mayhem coming in off the Lake
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Gonna hit 65 here this afternoon, back into the 50s at kickoff. You folks would call that "nice early September weather" I imagine.
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Global Warming so maybe late September
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When there is bad officiating, do "they" come back the next day and reverse the final result?
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no, someone from the league office calls the coach or AD on Monday and apologizes for the bad call.
the loss stands
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High of 72 today.
62 at the present.
Lots of disappointed visitors, I'm sure.
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I "get" complaining about bad calls, we've all done it, I was pretty bad when I played. I can see posting something about them, and then life goes on, nothing changes as a result, I suspect it makes the poster feel justified for a minute, and then frustrated.
Dawg fans still complain about a bad call in the '99 game.
Georgia-Georgia Tech 1999 - One of the most memorable rivalry games of all time - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42625940/georgia-georgia-tech-clean-old-fashioned-hate-memorbale-rivalry-1999)
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I saw a lot of head scratchers in the UGA/Tech game last night.
UGA won, kinda.
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some teams "seem" to get more calls than the average
it's curious/interesting that those teams are often, blue blood helmet teams that "might" want to be protected by the league for the good of the game or for $$$
check the KC Chiefs this NFL season for an example
or the long history of Ohio St. & Michigan in the Big
Or Bama & recently Georgia in the SEC
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some teams "seem" to get more calls than the average
Oh?
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check the KC Chiefs this NFL season for an example
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Unless they're doing illegal gambling stuff on their own, refs don't give a shit who wins a game. They want to do a good job (as best they can) and not have anything outrageous happen.
The only crew-related exception I can think of would be like a rogue racist crew circa 1977 or something like that.
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check the KC Chiefs this NFL season for an example
I'm not, but if it was the Jags getting similar calls, would anyone have noticed?
Higher stakes as a team with a good record. More eyeballs on the Chiefs. More passion about their outcomes, both for and against. Seems like an easy situation to see things a little sideways, no?
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Unless they're doing illegal gambling stuff on their own, refs don't give a shit who wins a game. They want to do a good job (as best they can) and not have anything outrageous happen.
I used to believe this and I'd love to go back to believing this, but I can't.
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Higher stakes as a team with a good record. More eyeballs on the Chiefs. More passion about their outcomes, both for and against. Seems like an easy situation to see things a little sideways, no?
When it happens 9 out of 12 games w/ all 9 being one score games
and even Chief's fans admit to their "luck".
(https://i.imgur.com/a8AYKxA.png)
It's an easy situation to see things a little sideways, no?
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Absolutely.
But also, wasn't this seen as a skill in the past? Aren't the Chefs just being gritty? Know how to win the close ones? 2002 OSU and all that?
My statistical mind would just cite the small sample size within a season and have confidence that it will go the other way next year.
When you want to know the reason for something, you don't just pick the reason that seems best or you want to be true. You say "I don't know" until convincing evidence appears. No list of scores is that evidence. You have 32 teams and 1 or 2 are going to have exceptional 1-score records, aren't they? Just as I'm sure there are 1 or 2 with dreadful 1-score records.
A bell curve, if we used data from many seasons. Can a team with the spotlight on it not be one of the fortunate ones?
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I'd also just ask, because I have no inkling, of which teams on their schedule so far are thought of as good as the Chefs? Which have equal talent/expectations?
From my VERY limited NFL knowledge, that's a pretty shit schedule, no? If so, I'd find the lack of blowout wins more remarkable than the close wins.
The whole situation is odd, though.
A team in KC getting breaks from the refs, as told to by NFL brass? Mahomes does State Farm commercials and is a big darling? The TE is dating a pop star. The TE's brother gets some fame as well.
Not exactly the perfect storm of a diabolical villainy, at least not an effective one. Wouldn't the NFL want the Giants to be amazing? Or the Cowboys? Like any of 20 other franchises ahead of the Chefs.
Conspiracy thinking tends to omit the obvious sometimes.
HC Andy Reid (is he still their HC?) couldn't get over the hump with the Eagles, but finds success in KC. Do the refs LOVE Andy Reid? Is the NFL in cahoots to uplift Mahomes, or did he just succeed and thrive with the other 21 guys, winning multiple SBs?
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I used to believe this and I'd love to go back to believing this, but I can't.
If I thought the "refs" were often "in the bag", I'd cease watching sports entirely and lose interest, as it would be akin to the East German judges judging pro 'rastlin'.
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unfortunately, I don't have access to a database that gathers stats for missed or blown calls or bad calls or questionable calls
someone probably has one
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unfortunately, I don't have access to a database that gathers stats for missed or blown calls or bad calls or questionable calls
someone probably has one
That list would be infinitely long. Are we confident its creator would be objective for both sides for every game?
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With refs, I go back to the W Bush thing: when you can't tell if someone's unethical or incompetent, based on their output, they tend to be incompetent.
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If I thought the "refs" were often "in the bag", I'd cease watching sports entirely and lose interest, as it would be akin to the East German judges judging pro 'rastlin'.
(https://i.imgur.com/bs42CG5.png)
the team with 2 penalties finished the season at almost 8 per game at 106th in the nation
even after this sparkling performance
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That list would be infinitely long. Are we confident its creator would be objective for both sides for every game?
I'll leave that to you, the undisputed stats guy
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I'll leave that to you, the undisputed stats guy
I just respect them and try not to fly in the face of them like so many here.
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Sex trafficker memes. Cool.
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speakin of stats, when's the last time a team won a game 0 fer 10 on 3rd down conversions?
or 5 first downs?
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Sex trafficker memes. Cool.
In my innocent defense, I have no idear who the guy is.
Just stole a meme off FB
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That's our new Secretary of Education's husband, Vince McMahon.
That sentence is unconscionable.
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Modern college football
yup. just is what it is. sucks cause as a fan you really want to see a great player play. But can’t blame him, he’s got little to gain if he plays and lot to lose if he gets injured.
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That's our new Secretary of Education's husband, Vince McMahon.
That sentence is unconscionable.
well, apparently the Department of education is going away being absorbed by other departments so She might not have much to do.
you know,......... like the vice president or many other government officials
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speakin of stats, when's the last time a team won a game 0 fer 10 on 3rd down conversions?
or 5 first downs?
(https://i.imgur.com/tnsaJQn.png)
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I hate all these "since 2000" statements. It's not that it happened in 2000, it's that official college football stats were barely a thing until then.
Baseball statkeepers did a better job in 1924 than college football ones did in 1994. That PLUS the NCAA having access to tons of during-the-game stats being kept, but not bothering to incorporate them as official.
It's maddening for people like me.
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since 2000 isn't that impressive to old guys like me
24 years is a long time but,........... not a REAL long time
44 years, 50+ years OK
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since 2000 isn't that impressive to old guys like me
24 years is a long time but,........... not a REAL long time
44 years, 50+ years OK
Like seasons between B1G NCs.......1968-1997, something like that?
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Ed Zachery!
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We have better baseball records than weather records for God's sakes.
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Kirk Ferentz was looking for the right words to describe the Hawkeyes' 13-10 walk-off victory over Nebraska football on Friday night. The Iowa football coach found them in his postgame comments in the form of a famous theoretical physicist.
"Just walking off the field, Albert Einstein quote kind of hit me about, 'Not everything that can be counted counts' and then, 'Not everything that counts can be counted.' I think that sometimes explains the way things going in sports," Ferentz said. "That's what's so interesting as much as you want to analyze it, slice it, dice it, cut it up, all that stuff. I know statistics are important, but sometimes you just have to find a way to win, and our team did that."
Iowa improved to 8-4 on the year, and Ferentz is now one win away from tying Woody Hayes in career victories as an active Big Ten Conference coach.
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How many times do Iowa fans have to explain this.
Yards don't matter
Number of first downs don't matter.
Only thing that matters is who has the most points at the end of the game.
Geesesh, Brian Ferentz figured this out a long, long time ago. The spirit of Brian continues to live on in Iowa City even though he moved on last year.
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hah, punts matter!
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Meyer always talked up punting as a non-loss. Although he had to punt far less often than most everyone else.
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Michigan RB and MVP Mullings in post game interview when asked about the fracas at the end of the game:
“I enjoyed Sawyer yanking the M flag down as if he needed a memento of being 0-4.”
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typical michigan punk starting fights,can't win with class or lose with grace - same as it ever was
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Meyer always talked up punting as a non-loss. Although he had to punt far less often than most everyone else.
well, to Kirk's credit, he follows thru by having a top 10 number of punts per season
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Geesesh, Brian Ferentz figured this out a long, long time ago. The spirit of Brian continues to live on in Iowa City even though he moved on last year.
I know it showed against Ohio St,then of course the spirit of 3rd base showed against Me-e-sheegan
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hi friends! They said I wasn’t allowed in Columbus this year 😕. Just checking in on my buddy Ryan. Everything good??? <a href="https://twitter.com/trentejones01?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@trentejones01</a> <a href="https://t.co/6gCFpCqVcU">pic.twitter.com/6gCFpCqVcU</a></p>— Connor Stalions (@cpstalions) <a href="https://twitter.com/cpstalions/status/1862957029259665888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hi friends! They said I wasn’t allowed in Columbus this year 😕. Just checking in on my buddy Ryan. Everything good??? <a href="https://twitter.com/trentejones01?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@trentejones01</a> <a href="https://t.co/6gCFpCqVcU">pic.twitter.com/6gCFpCqVcU</a></p>— Connor Stalions (@cpstalions) <a href="https://twitter.com/cpstalions/status/1862957029259665888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
#wareagle
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typical michigan punk starting fights,can't win with class or lose with grace - same as it ever was
Michigan didn't start any fight. Sawyer was just being a little pussy all in his feelings who couldn't take losing and getting embarrassed AGAIN for the 4th time in a row.
Hey here's an idea, you don't want them planting the flag in your stadium? Don't let them win the game. Do something on the field about it, not after the game is over. Definition of a punk ass pussy.
Michigan lost to Texas and they planted their flag in the Big House. What'd Michigan players do? Go to the locker room.....
Don't want someone planting their flag in your stadium....it's pretty simple....win the damn game. Otherwise shut the fuck up and just take the L like a man.
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#wareagle
one day they will build a statue to Connor.......
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one day they will build a statue to Connor.......
Agreed. That's why they are the Auburn of the north now. Wonder what 17 year olds he's moved onto hanging out with now
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Agreed. That's why they are the Auburn of the north now. Wonder what 17 year olds he's moved onto hanging out with now
hey if he's taking suggestions I say he targets a 5* WR or two....
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hey if he's taking suggestions I say he targets a 5* WR or two....
I'm sure he's got a type. CTE Jimmy might still have a sleeping bag he can borrow for those campouts with high schoolers
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https://twitter.com/NCAAPortal/status/1862958277279006927
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Rub it in brother let's have it the more shit generated the quicker these idgits in their ivory towers might catch on and cut out this malevolent drag on university expenses and expectations.
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Boy, you need a hug.
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No but someone needs a pink slip.There were only 2 games on the schedule this year.....and Day managed to lose them both....that 100%.That neanderthal teletubby must have had URBZ party pictures - who doesn't embarrass easy.He'd been Chip's OC at UNH/BC/Philly and in SF,that's not the resume for an HC position at a Blue Blood. I'd take Napier in a heart beat
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You don't fire a HC that's gone 47-1 against teams not named Michigan. That's fucking stupid.
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Florida certainly exceeded expectations. I noted this after the LSU win, they were playing hard, I thought. A good sign for them.
FSU ... well, they didn't. Probably a record collapse in one year.
As for academics, Florida has a good reputation as a public school, so do UNC/UVA/UM/Cal and a few others. But this is a football site. For nonplayers, it's of some benefit to have a degree from a better school, duh.
I interviewed a lot of candidates for employment back in the day, and the quality didn't really align with the reputation of the school often at all, which surprised me for a while.
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Texas is now 3-0 against all rivals this season. Even "back in the day" that was pretty rare. Regardless of what happens the rest of the season, Horns have got to feel good about this.
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Texas is now 3-0 against all rivals this season. Even "back in the day" that was pretty rare. Regardless of what happens the rest of the season, Horns have got to feel good about this.
3 rivals?
Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and. ?????
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Arky, from the old SWC days.
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Can we hope this is the end?
Gus Johnson Facing Extreme Backlash for Commentary During Michigan-Ohio State Brawl (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/gus-johnson-facing-extreme-backlash-for-commentary-during-michigan-ohio-state-brawl/ar-AA1v2E05?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=cb5d6433a710477fb42ee9745fe2836c&ei=14)
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Arkansas was historically a bigger rival than Texas A&M.
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Can we hope this is the end?
Gus Johnson Facing Extreme Backlash for Commentary During Michigan-Ohio State Brawl (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/gus-johnson-facing-extreme-backlash-for-commentary-during-michigan-ohio-state-brawl/ar-AA1v2E05?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=cb5d6433a710477fb42ee9745fe2836c&ei=14)
yes, please!
Slim glimmer of hope
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Texas is now 3-0 against all rivals this season. Even "back in the day" that was pretty rare. Regardless of what happens the rest of the season, Horns have got to feel good about this.
It always bothers me to lose to Iowa - cause I live here amongst their fans
but, I was REALLY hoping for the 3-0 against Colorado, Wisconsin, and Iowa
would have made the losses vs Indiana, Illinois, and UCLA bearable
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Arky, from the old SWC days.
And Vanderbilt.
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Our main rivals:
Florida Tennessee Auburn Tech 4-4, barely, skin of teeth, etc.
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2 outa 3 ain't bad
hopin to get the Sooners in a bowl
gotta be possible - couple of 6 loss suck butts
maybe an 8-4 K-State team?
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Can we hope this is the end?
Gus Johnson Facing Extreme Backlash for Commentary During Michigan-Ohio State Brawl (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/gus-johnson-facing-extreme-backlash-for-commentary-during-michigan-ohio-state-brawl/ar-AA1v2E05?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=cb5d6433a710477fb42ee9745fe2836c&ei=14)
I kinda half-serious and half-kidding when I say this, but maybe it's time Ohio St and Michigan got a real trophy for their game, instead of acting like little children at the end of the game, and really the whole week of the game.
Or maybe I am getting old. Get off my lawn!
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attempting to plant your flag on the rival's home field is childish and will be met with violence
be prepared to get yer ass whipped
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attempting to plant your flag on the rival's home field is childish and will be met with violence
be prepared to get yer ass whipped
Meh, I'd prefer my team not do it, but it's just grass. Don't want it to happen, don't lose. Can't tell you how many times over the past 4 decades of mostly subpar Texas teams I've seen the opponent stomp on our logo or dance on it or attempt to plant a flag. It's not upsetting because it's "childish" or "classless," it's upsetting because it means your team lost to someone you really didn't want them to lose to.
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attempting to plant your flag on the rival's home field is childish and will be met with violence
be prepared to get yer ass whipped
https://twitter.com/BarstoolUofM/status/1863226593549688841
so what’s your take on OSU players standing as close as possible to Michigan taking the field to talk shit? Is that childish?
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I don't want my team doing it either
I also want my team to allow some punks to defile the homefield
It's OK if my team defends their turf, regardless who won the game
I'm just sayin, if you're thinkin it's gonna be fun to disrespect the opponent's homefield infront of the home town fans.......... be prepared to pay the price.
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I don't want my team doing it either
I also want my team to allow some punks to defile the homefield
It's OK if my team defends their turf, regardless who won the game
I'm just sayin, if you're thinkin it's gonna be fun to disrespect the opponent's homefield infront of the home town fans.......... be prepared to pay the price.
If you assault someone for disrespecting grass, you should probably be prepared to go to jail.
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so what’s your take on OSU players standing as close as possible to Michigan taking the field to talk shit? Is that childish?
yes, that is also childish
stealing a mascot the night before the game is childish
most of this childish behavior towards a rival is harmless and not a big deal - a little back and forth in good clean fun.
it's a fine line, but desecrating the 50 yard line or brawling, especially by hitting opponents with your helmet is over the top
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If you assault someone for disrespecting grass, you should probably be prepared to go to jail.
agreed, it's simple, push them down, tackle them, take the flag and flag pole away from them
no need to hit them with a weapon
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yes, that is also childish
stealing a mascot the night before the game is childish
most of this childish behavior towards a rival is harmless and not a big deal - a little back and forth in good clean fun.
it's a fine line, but desecrating the 50 yard line or brawling, especially by hitting opponents with your helmet is over the top
It's also stupid to remove your helmet when about to become engaged in a brawl. Leave that sucker on for your own protection.
I just think it's silly to call out regular rivalry behavior as "chilidish." Watching 18-year-olds play a game is childish, getting emotional over the outcomes of games played by 18-year-olds is childish, being a fan is childish, playing the game yourself is childish.
Physically assaulting someone when they haven't assaulted you isn't childish-- it's dangerous, and stupid. Especially if you remove your head protection in order to do so.
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It's also stupid to remove your helmet when about to become engaged in a brawl. Leave that sucker on for your own protection.
well, they are football players, not scholars
really should never pass the admissions office at a high brow place like UT-Austin
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well, they are football players, not scholars
really should never pass the admissions office at a high brow place like UT-Austin
Oh we've got a general studies program just like everybody else.
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I'm not talkin bout passing a few classes
I'm talkin about being admitted
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, but desecrating the 50 yard line
Desecrating? C’mon man. This isn’t holy land. Calling this childish is such a soft reaction. I’ve been in Ann Arbor for this rivalry when OsU player go above and beyond to sing Carmen Ohio in way that was over the top, but they took the win and deserved the celebration. The fact that this take is desecrating the 50 yard line is worse than OSU player starting this brawl or fans caught spitting on Michigan players from above walking in is worse than swinging a flag around after victory is weak.
Michigan was told they didn’t stand a chance, we’re going to get blown out, weren’t nearly the talent as OSu, shouldn’t be on the same field… then won. Maybe you don’t like underdogs or Cinderella stories, but being told you don’t belong and you prove people wrong, deserves celebration. Of course, maybe your side thinks the 1980 US Olympic hockey team was childish too.
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I'm OK with all the little shit
we've all seen the cleat scuffin and the flag planting
I'm just sayin, it's ok if you want to celebrate your win, and if you want to try to plant a flag or cleat the logo, go ahead.
At your own risk.
Someone might try to stop you.
I'm ok with someone trying to stop you/
now. if you use excessive force and commit a crime, well, do the time
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Desecrating? C’mon man. This isn’t holy land. Calling this childish is such a soft reaction. I’ve been in Ann Arbor for this rivalry when OsU player go above and beyond to sing Carmen Ohio in way that was over the top, but they took the win and deserved the celebration. The fact that this take is desecrating the 50 yard line is worse than OSU player starting this brawl or fans caught spitting on Michigan players from above walking in is worse than swinging a flag around after victory is weak..
Mario C'mon man - That team booger had got in 3 tunnel fights and a field brawl over a 7 game home stretch.The sad fact was after the PSU game James Franklin simply suggested leaving one team at a time go in.Of course headwound harbaugh called him some juvenile name. But he was also hiding a felony gun charge by team captain Uzi Smith at the time. Ya leaders and the best.Then the next week they jumped all over MSU then scrubbed the tunnel film that caught M players going up to MSU locker room door. Name 1 fookin' program that hosts other teams in such fashion,maybe the hurrigandsta's in the '80s/'90s
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I don’t want to fucking hear it. You don’t want them to plant the flag in your house? Then win the fucking football game. Period.
Ohio State showed more fight after the game then they did during it.
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winning a ballgame should be enuff
win with class
no need to plant a flag - it's not your house
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winning a ballgame should be enuff
win with class
no need to plant a flag - it's not your house
yeah, no.
Just because someone puts a flag on your field does not mean you have the right to physically assault someone. Get the fuck out of here.
Don’t want them planting the flag? Win the fucking game and stop being a cry baby pussy in your feelings.
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Mario C'mon man - That team booger had got in 3 tunnel fights and a field brawl over a 7 game home stretch.The sad fact was after the PSU game James Franklin simply suggested leaving one team at a time go in.Of course headwound harbaugh called him some juvenile name. But he was also hiding a felony gun charge by team captain Uzi Smith at the time. Ya leaders and the best.Then the next week they jumped all over MSU then scrubbed the tunnel film that caught M players going up to MSU locker room door. Name 1 fookin' program that hosts other teams in such fashion,maybe the hurrigandsta's in the '80s/'90s
What in the world does Uzi Smith charge have anything to do with this topic? Yeah, only Michigan has a player with an off the field incident and therefore they aren’t a good program. Dude that’s an absurd take and connection.
jack Sawyer having a meltdown and being the reason for the aftermath and screaming he wasn’t going to let the flag planting happen is hilarious. Maybe if the dude could make a tackle, he wouldn’t have had to watch it, but he is one of the main reason Michigan was able to pull it off because he couldn’t bring down Mullings.
(https://i.imgur.com/CTuCdO9.jpeg)
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When did all the 50-yard line stuff start? I recall Terrell Owens sprinting to the 50 after a TD in Dallas when he was with SF. Then Emmitt scored and ran to the 50 as a rebuttal.
Idk about before that.
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yeah, no.
Just because someone puts a flag on your field does not mean you have the right to physically assault someone. Get the fuck out of here.
I stated earlier..........
assault as a crime, hitting someone with a helmet, using weapons, isn't cool. Do the time
take the flag and pole away from them, shove them, tackle them, let them know it's not gonna happen
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I stated earlier..........
assault as a crime, hitting someone with a helmet, using weapons, isn't cool. Do the time
take the flag and pole away from them, shove them, tackle them, let them know it's not gonna happen
That's assault, which is actually a crime, so...
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well, it wasn't a crime for the previous 60 minutes and they still have their pads on and they're still on the field
but, technically, yer right, The clock ran out
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well, it wasn't a crime for the previous 60 minutes and they still have their pads on and they're still on the field
but, technically, yer right, The clock ran out
Well, when they are doing it to a former player that’s just a cameraman, it’s weak and pathetic.
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and the cameraman probably wasn't carrying the flag
but, the cameraman might not want to stick his nose in
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well, it wasn't a crime for the previous 60 minutes and they still have their pads on and they're still on the field
but, technically, yer right, The clock ran out
Yes, the activity on the field is consensual and specifically protected under the law. Anything beyond that would be criminal assault.
But you already know this and are being deliberately pedantic.
If you want to say, "plant the flag is fine, just be ready for the consequences" then an appropriate response is "assaulting someone for insulting grass is fine, just be ready for the potential jailtime." All fair and even.
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If you want to say, "plant the flag is fine, just be ready for the consequences" then an appropriate response is "assaulting someone for insulting grass is fine, just be ready for the potential jailtime." All fair and even.
agreed
this is what I've said
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and the cameraman probably wasn't carrying the flag
but, the cameraman might not want to stick his nose in
Yeah, osu players ripping the flag away and running off with it and him just grabbing it back as it wasn’t their property to run off with justifies 3 of them, with helmets and pads on, shoving him and trying to put him to the ground. And I’m guessing they had no idea it was Jason Avant as he was in street clothes and his face was covered because of the temperature
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as I said, feel free to stick your nose in. At your own risk.
not sayin the 3 were justified
just sayin
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winning a ballgame should be enuff
win with class
no need to plant a flag - it's not your house
They can't win with class or lose with grace,booger is the only coach who encourages it.Look how many times he got in other coaches grill.Ya pretty Pete Carrol had it coming but not the others,he just waited til he won to pop off
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They can't win with class or lose with grace,booger is the only coach who encourages it.Look how many times he got in other coaches grill.Ya pretty Pete Carrol had it coming but not the others,he just waited til he won to pop off
Assaulting the opposing team members because they insulted your grass isn't "losing with grace." Buckeyes don't have the moral high ground here.
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When did they plant a flag in Michigan? you'r asking for it any where - i didn't see that as i turned the game off half way thru the 4th.Guess you'd have to watch everything.Michigan got in 3 fights in "hosting" in their stadium over a 7 home game stretch so they bring their baggage. Not singing the blues if they get a preliminary strike in return.Not condoning any of it BTW
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Yeah. Complete class. Absolutely no reason for a rival to want to celebrate a win over such a sophisticated university that does nothing but show elegance and high character standards.
(https://i.imgur.com/ptXQ20m.jpeg)
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Assaulting the opposing team members because they insulted your grass isn't "losing with grace." Buckeyes don't have the moral high ground here.
let's let law enforcement sort it out - law enforcement from both sides used pepper spray
Michigan players were assaulting people right along ... takes two to tango
Bucks may have thrown the first punch, but Michigan provoked the melee.
I don't think either has the moral high ground
I'll wait to see what the officials in charge have to say after the investigation
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Yes, of course neither side has the moral high ground. Which is why I felt compelled to correct a Buckeye fan who was attempting to take the high ground.
As for letting the the officials resolve it, that's fine for the legal issues and potential conference rules violations. But I don't see any ambiguity in the moral implications, both sides are guilty and neither gets to thumb its nose at the other.
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Yeah. Complete class. Absolutely no reason for a rival to want to celebrate a win over such a sophisticated university that does nothing but show elegance and high character standards.
3 fights over 7 home games in the tunnel of Michigan Stadium and only one common denominator
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The Big Ten Conference has fined Michigan and Ohio State $100k each for their involvement in Saturday’s postgame brawl, the conference announced.
“The Big Ten Conference has determined that the actions of both teams following the Michigan-Ohio State football game on Saturday, November 30, 2024, violated the Big Ten Sportsmanship Policy,” the conference said in a press release.
Following Michigan’s 13-10 victory, a Wolverines player attempted to plant a Michigan banner on the Buckeyes logo at midfield in Ohio Stadium, which led to pushing and shoving and eventually punches being thrown by members of both teams. Ohio State defensive end Jack Sawyer was seen snatching the flag and throwing it away.
It took several minutes for stadium security and police to separate the two teams, with pepper spray being deployed to get the situation under control, according to multiple media reports. The television broadcast showed players wiping their eyes and coughing in the aftermath of the brawl.
“Not only did the actions of both teams violate fundamental elements of sportsmanship such as respect and civility, the nature of the incident also jeopardized the safety of participants and bystanders,” the Big Ten added.
According to the Big Ten, no other fines or suspensions will be handed out.
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Yes, of course neither side has the moral high ground. Which is why I felt compelled to correct a Buckeye fan who was attempting to take the high ground.
As for letting the the officials resolve it, that's fine for the legal issues and potential conference rules violations. But I don't see any ambiguity in the moral implications, both sides are guilty and neither gets to thumb its nose at the other.
it's crazy, plum crazy, I tell ya
how much we agree
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and it seems the Big Ten sees it roughly the same as Utee and I.
HAH!
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and it seems the Big Ten sees it roughly the same as Utee and I.
HAH!
Yup. It's hard to be humble when we're always so very, very right, isn't it FF?
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They (NCAA and conferences) need to end this flag planting BS. Not happy with Michigan's attempt to do so in Columbus or how the home team handled it. The $100K fine per school is not nearly painful enough so that schools crack down on this going forward. The game was over so if punches were thrown by anyone criminal charges should be brought and suspensions levied.
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Thank You M - can kick Ryan's ass Night and Day but it'd be nice if all these teams could shake hands along the way and just have a slobberknocker on the field during the game
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I suppose someone could have been injured.
I someone is/was injured criminal charges should/would be brought and suspensions levied.
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No problem,maybe the NFL can start their minor leagues and the universities can get back to recruiting actual student - athletes
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(https://i.imgur.com/5e2QFrl.jpeg)
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They (NCAA and conferences) need to end this flag planting BS. Not happy with Michigan's attempt to do so in Columbus or how the home team handled it. The $100K fine per school is not nearly painful enough so that schools crack down on this going forward. The game was over so if punches were thrown by anyone criminal charges should be brought and suspensions levied.
NCAA/conferences will likely ban it in the off-season imo. And it will be sweet just knowing it was a 6-5 Michigan team beating #2 ranked Ohio State in their house as 3 touchdown dogs which lead to the ban. :)
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There was no flag-planting but after the UT-TAMU game, a bunch of Longhorns went to the center of the field to stomp on the Aggies' logo. Sarkisian actually went over and shooed them off, which I thought was a nice move.
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Sherrone was throwing guys and telling them to disperse. Ryan was just standing around in shock.
https://twitter.com/BrooksAustinBA/status/1862990894590255350
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should have sprayed Sherrone
Ryan was smart to stay away from the melee
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apparently, the folks in Iowa City were worried about the Huskers trying something on the 50 yard line.
Nebraska has a habit of a team prayer at midfield before the game.
Security blocked them from kneeling at midfield - the Huskers gathered on the field away from the center
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We always did our team prayers in the endzones.
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maybe there was something to it
I know Coach Brown always invited the opposing team and coaches to join the huskers in prayer regardless of the location
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Sherrone was throwing guys and telling them to disperse. Ryan was just standing around in shock.
Brooks Austin-
I’ve seen a lot of video footage of the Ohio State and Michigan brawl.
Sherrone Moore is in the middle pulling guys apart. Damn near got pepper sprayed.
Ryan Day is on the outside looking in with his hands on his hips.
Kind of like when games fall apart he stands there clueless - it's what he does.Keep 'em coming Mdot give us more ammo for flushing this turd
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https://twitter.com/B1G_Ryan/status/1863631668092821648
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Valenti nails it "your rosey cheeked idiot head coach just had his soul leave his body" "you could give me Ryan Day for free I wouldn't take him"
gold jerry gold
https://youtu.be/WZMHJr8MxAI
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This guy with Coward nails it for 3 minutes time stamped
https://youtu.be/fBdPpZ8TjT4?t=276
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https://twitter.com/scoduckz/status/1863259256075505716
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Just make all midfield logos carpet on concrete, like the 70s-style astro-turf fields. You can't plant anything on that!!!!
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(https://i.imgur.com/nyaQma3.png)
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Ohio State has scored 84 points combined in the last 4 losses to Michigan since he said this. just need at least 16 points in L #5 in a row to Michigan Ryan and you'll finally get to 100!
https://twitter.com/11W/status/1291706913965604864
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typical michigan punk starting fights,can't win with class or lose with grace - same as it ever was
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michigan alone on the field at the 50 after winning <br><br>OSU players ran all the way across the field and began this fight<br><br>OSU could not beat Michigan, but they cheap-shotted Michigan after the game <br><br>If you can't win the game, you don't get to cry post game<br><br>100% loser move <a href="https://t.co/QbhOmE6gfN">pic.twitter.com/QbhOmE6gfN</a></p>— Bill Speros (@billsperos) <a href="https://twitter.com/billsperos/status/1862961216949219638?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michigan alone on the field at the 50 after winning <br><br>OSU players ran all the way across the field and began this fight<br><br>OSU could not beat Michigan, but they cheap-shotted Michigan after the game <br><br>If you can't win the game, you don't get to cry post game<br><br>100% loser move <a href="https://t.co/QbhOmE6gfN">pic.twitter.com/QbhOmE6gfN</a></p>— Bill Speros (@billsperos) <a href="https://twitter.com/billsperos/status/1862961216949219638?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Counterpoint: Get the f off our field
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Saw someone post on another board, that it had been so long since Nebraska last made a bowl, that it was the first time Trump was elected president.
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Counterpoint: Get the f off our field
I mean....every team that wins the game usually celebrates after the win on whatever field they are on....home, away, neutral....don't see a problem with it.
counter to your counterpoint: don't want them celebrating on your home field? win the fucking game. otherwise take the lumps and shut the fuck up and hold this L like a man.
Jack Sawyer wanted to be a tough guy after the game. Wasn't so tough when Max Bredeson was burying him into the ground on a block for a touchdown or when Kalel Mullings broke his tackle at the LOS on that pivotal 3rd and 6 and bounced it outside and up the field for 30 yards which effectively was the dagger in the heart. Jack Sawyer gets Mullings down there it's 4th and 6 and Michigan is out of FG range and has to punt the ball.
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I mean....every team that wins the game usually celebrates after the win on whatever field they are on....home, away, neutral....don't see a problem with it.
counter to your counterpoint: don't want them celebrating on your home field? win the fucking game. otherwise take the lumps and shut the fuck up and hold this L like a man.
Jack Sawyer wanted to be a tough guy after the game. Wasn't so tough when Max Bredeson was burying him into the ground on a block for a touchdown or when Kalel Mullings broke his tackle at the LOS on that pivotal 3rd and 6 and bounced it outside and up the field for 30 yards which effectively was the dagger in the heart. Jack Sawyer gets Mullings down there it's 4th and 6 and Michigan is out of FG range and has to punt the ball.
Yeah, but Michigan has underachieved all season and is headed to the Mayo bowl or whatever. Celebrate the win and get off the field. Don't whine when you taken off the field.
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Yeah, but Michigan has underachieved all season and is headed to the Mayo bowl or whatever. Celebrate the win and get off the field. Don't whine when you taken off the field.
this season has sucked so much ass....I've gouged out my eyeballs watching Davis Warren & Alex Orji attempt to play QB- and then after getting the #1 overall recruit in the country who happens to be at the position of greatest need- QB- Bryce Underwood-and then like a week later beating #2 ranked Ohio State with their $20+ million roster (Urbs said it was the best roster ever) on their home turf as 3 TD dogs- beating them for the 4th year in a row- and knocking them out of the B1G CG....buddy....doesn't really get much sweeter. Season has been redeemed in the span of a week and IDGAF about a bowl game right now.
Only whining I saw at all was from that major fucking pussy Jack Sawyer crying like a bitch while Ryan Day was standing around shell shocked as his soul had just left his body. If only fake tough guy Jack Sawyer had that fight in him to stop Kalel Mullings on 3rd and 6 instead of whiff on the tackle...then maybe just maybe Michigan wouldn't have been in position to celebrate and Born on 3rd base wouldn't have just lost 4 in a row.
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this season has sucked so much ass....I've gouged out my eyeballs watching Davis Warren & Alex Orji attempt to play QB- and then after getting the #1 overall recruit in the country who happens to be at the position of greatest need- QB- Bryce Underwood-and then like a week later beating #2 ranked Ohio State with their $20+ million roster (Urbs said it was the best roster ever) on their home turf as 3 TD dogs- beating them for the 4th year in a row- and knocking them out of the B1G CG....buddy....doesn't really get much sweeter. Season has been redeemed in the span of a week and IDGAF about a bowl game right now.
Only whining I saw at all was from that major fucking pussy Jack Sawyer crying like a bitch while Ryan Day was standing around shell shocked as his soul had just left his body. If only fake tough guy Jack Sawyer had that fight in him to stop Kalel Mullings on 3rd and 6 instead of whiff on the tackle...then maybe just maybe Michigan wouldn't have been in position to celebrate and Born on 3rd base wouldn't have just lost 4 in a row.
Which is nice. OSU lost to Purdue a few times. They still talk about it.
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https://twitter.com/SteveWallaceSr/status/1863062345863274566
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Kalel Mullings: Ohio State needs to learn how to lose!
Ohio State: Nah
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Kalel Mullings: Ohio State needs to learn how to lose!
Ohio State: Nah
I mean it's been 4 in a row for Jack Sawyer. He should be pretty good at losing the game by now.
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send Cryin' Ryan that bottle Fran....send him that bottle...
https://twitter.com/Menace2Sports/status/1863956534079754582
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I mean it's been 4 in a row for Jack Sawyer. He should be pretty good at losing the game by now.
Hell of a pick. Played a great game. Hopefully he can repeat it in the playoffs.
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really feel like Jeem broke Cryin' Ryan after this....
https://twitter.com/TaylorLewan77/status/1863966789849256408
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Oh man, Jeem ran off. He knew the score.
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Oh man, Jeem ran off. He knew the score.
I mean Jeem got offered a $16.5 million a year contract with complete control by an NFL team who already had a young 3rd or 4th year 25 year old franchise QB in place who also happens to be one of the 4 or 5 most talented QB's in the entire league. There is no world in which Jeem would've ever turned that job down. Period.
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I mean Jeem got offered a $16.5 million a year contract with complete control by an NFL team who already had a young 3rd-4th year 25 year old franchise QB who is one of the 4 or 5 most talented QB's in the entire league. There is no world in which Jeem would've ever turned that job down. Period.
That's what I tell myself too
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That's what I tell myself too
you tell yourself the reality of a situation? cool.
Jeem has made no bones about his Super Bowl aspirations and longing for the NFL. It was not exactly a secret....
And the Chargers offered him $6.5 million more per year than Michigan was paying him, complete control of football operations, and oh yeah they already had the most important piece to win in the NFL in place- a legitimate franchise QB. There is no universe that exists where he was turning that job down...especially after winning a Natty. Mission accomplished at Michigan, what else was there for him to do there?
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https://twitter.com/SteveWallaceSr/status/1863062345863274566
jesus is that your life trolling on social media?
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you tell yourself the reality of a situation? cool.
Jeem has made no bones about his Super Bowl aspirations and longing for the NFL. It was not exactly a secret....
And the Chargers offered him $6.5 million more per year than Michigan was paying him, complete control of football operations, and oh yeah they already had the most important piece to win in the NFL in place- a legitimate franchise QB. There is no universe that exists where he was turning that job down...especially after winning a Natty. Mission accomplished at Michigan, what else was there for him to do there?
When my dad left I said he's just trying to win a Super Bowl
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Jim has to beat his brother before he can win a SB
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Jim has to beat his brother before he can win a SB
Given the Ravens' penchant for coming viscerally unglued at the worst possible times (see the 2nd half of last year's AFC Championship Game), that may not be as hard as you think.
Winning the AFC involves winning January games in both Kansas City and Buffalo. It can be done, but it ain't that easy.
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I mean Kansas City is the scary team at the end, but they just keep escaping. 11-1, but 11th in point differential. Substantially behind teams like the Commanders and Broncos.
I think the Lions, Eagles and Bills are the class of the league. Lions defense is hilariously injured now, and I can't imagine Nick Sirianni winning a Super Bowl. If this isn't the Bills year, it never will be.
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Hell of a pick. Played a great game. Hopefully he can repeat it in the playoffs.
his pick, with any competent qb would have been a td.. Not only was the pass terrible, but it was incredibly late. That being said, it was a great read by Sawyer. That being said, he got destroyed on the touchdown run and missed the Mullings tackle that was one of the final nails in the coffin. Not sure how it can be termed a great game, when it was a great play and massive couple failures in key moments.
Lastly, everyone can defend Sawyer for defending their midfield or whatnot, but the dude is always the biggest shit talker before the game. There's plenty of video of Michigan taking the field and plenty of buckeyes, including the "captain" as close as they can get running their mouths. The more you run your mouth and tell the world your rival sucks, the more you look stupid by not letting the opposition celebrate after they did the part that actually mattered.
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I mean Kansas City is the scary team at the end, but they just keep escaping. 11-1, but 11th in point differential. Substantially behind teams like the Commanders and Broncos.
I think the Lions, Eagles and Bills are the class of the league. Lions defense is hilariously injured now, and I can't imagine Nick Sirianni winning a Super Bowl. If this isn't the Bills year, it never will be.
I think you're right, and if they faced off in the playoffs/superbowl I'd pick the Chiefs to beat each of them by 3-6 points. :)
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I think you're right, and if they faced off in the playoffs/superbowl I'd pick the Chiefs to beat each of them by 1-2 points. :)
FIFY. 6 is a blowout for the Chiefs this year
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Fair enough. Point remains, I'll pick them to win a post-season game over those 3 teams outright, every time.
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tough to beat MaHomes and the zebras
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his pick, with any competent qb would have been a td.. Not only was the pass terrible, but it was incredibly late. That being said, it was a great read by Sawyer. That being said, he got destroyed on the touchdown run and missed the Mullings tackle that was one of the final nails in the coffin. Not sure how it can be termed a great game, when it was a great play and massive couple failures in key moments.
Lastly, everyone can defend Sawyer for defending their midfield or whatnot, but the dude is always the biggest shit talker before the game. There's plenty of video of Michigan taking the field and plenty of buckeyes, including the "captain" as close as they can get running their mouths. The more you run your mouth and tell the world your rival sucks, the more you look stupid by not letting the opposition celebrate after they did the part that actually mattered.
Agree 100%.
Sawyer made a great play on the INT but at the same time that was an atrocious throw by a god awful walk-on QB. Davis Warren is truly awful. Warren had his TE hilariously wide open all by himself with no Buckeye within 10 yards of him and not only did he throw that ball 3 seconds late he threw it low on a line with no air under it. I do give credit to Sawyer for reading and reacting and pulling off the blocker and snagging the INT and saving a TD, but man....Davis Warren just really fucking sucks.
Aside from that one massive play, Sawyer didn't impact the game much. Sawyer had 0 TFL's and 0 sacks. Sawyer got buried by Max Bredeson on Michigan's lone touchdown run and on the run which effectively won Michigan the game- Sawyer had Mullings dead to rights in the backfield and whiffed on the tackle.
Sawyer was basically a non-factor in that game like he has been in all 4 games vs Michigan. JTT & Sawyer probably the two most overhyped 5* DE's I can ever remember at Ohio State. Other than 5* DE Zach Harrison. All 3 of those guys were top 10 overall recruits in the nation- they were ranked as HS players in that Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, Chase Young territory and none of them ever even remotely came close to living up to that. In 4 games vs Michigan JTT has 0 sacks. Had himself one whale of a game couple years ago vs Penn State though.
https://twitter.com/CSayf23/status/1863015123884941472
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they were ranked as HS players in that Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, Chase Young territory and none of them ever even remotely came close to living up to that.
This is the part that should be most eye opening to people when talking about it. From a pure visual analysis, rather than going to the stats, Sawyer isn't remotely even close to those three. I hated playing against those three guys because they were absolutely dominant and the best of the best. And all three of those guys, were confident, leaders and celebratory guys, but celebrated their successful moments. Sawyer to me comes across the guy that does more of his celebrating and mouth running off the field or before the game. The other 3 were guys I would have loved to see in Maize and Blue. Sawyer is a guy I'm glad he never was. No respect for him, while tremendous respect for the other three, but in personality and talent.
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Agree 100%.
Sawyer made a great play on the INT but at the same time that was an atrocious throw by a god awful walk-on QB. Davis Warren is truly awful. Warren had his TE hilariously wide open all by himself with no Buckeye within 10 yards of him and not only did he throw that ball 3 seconds late he threw it low on a line with no air under it. I do give credit to Sawyer for reading and reacting and pulling off the blocker and snagging the INT and saving a TD, but man....Davis Warren just really fucking sucks.
Aside from that one massive play, Sawyer didn't impact the game much. Sawyer had 0 TFL's and 0 sacks. Sawyer got buried by Max Bredeson on Michigan's lone touchdown run and on the run which effectively won Michigan the game- Sawyer had Mullings dead to rights in the backfield and whiffed on the tackle.
Sawyer was basically a non-factor in that game like he has been in all 4 games vs Michigan. JTT & Sawyer probably the two most overhyped 5* DE's I can ever remember at Ohio State. Other than 5* DE Zach Harrison. All 3 of those guys were top 10 overall recruits in the nation- they were ranked as HS players in that Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, Chase Young territory and none of them ever even remotely came close to living up to that. In 4 games vs Michigan JTT has 0 sacks. Had himself one whale of a game couple years ago vs Penn State though.
https://twitter.com/CSayf23/status/1863015123884941472
actually- it was Ty Hamilton that whiffed on Mullings 27 yard run. Sawyer was badly held.
https://twitter.com/andybackstrom/status/1862952531829088428?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1862952531829088428%7Ctwgr%5E2d03795f82ee930e58df9de0f3c2ad1a09c0d4a9%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthespun.com%2Fcollege-football%2Fmichigan-wolverines%2Frefs-missed-clear-holding-call-in-fourth-quarter-of-michigan-ohio-state-game
Weirdly- there were no sacks in that game.
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Lastly, everyone can defend Sawyer for defending their midfield or whatnot, but the dude is always the biggest shit talker before the game.
That was Booger,Desmond and 3rd base to