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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: MaximumSam on November 02, 2024, 07:03:49 AM
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Good morning everybody. No Friday night game, and I'm still digesting the hibachi from last night. Feels like I ate three pounds of food and yet there are still leftovers in the fridge. Anyways, my wife is taking her dad to Kentucky for a bourbon train tour or something for his birthday. That leaves me with the kids and the Buckeyes with a top 3 game at noon. I need to pick up one kid from a sleepover. They said after noon, I said that's not the window I will be driving. Maybe she can just live there.
Schedule
- #4 OSU at #3 PSU, Noon, FOX
- Minnesota at #24 Illinois, Noon, FS1
- Northwestern at Purdue, Noon, BTN
- #1 Oregon at Michigan, 3:30, CBS
- #13 Indiana at MSU, 3:30, Peacock
- UCLA at Nebraska, 3:30, BTN
- Wisconsin at Iowa, 7:30, NBC
- USC at Washington, 7:30, BTN
Others
- Duke at #5 Miami, Noon, ABC
- Florida at #2 Georgia, 3:30, ABC
- Kentucky at #7 Tennessee, 7:45, SECN
- #18 Pitt at #20 SMU, 8 pm, ACCN
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I'm going to Lincoln
hopefully, the Bruins don't care for the rain
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I'm going to Lincoln
hopefully, the Bruins don't care for the rain
Another lady friend?
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yup, not passing up free tickets
also, not taking the Vette in the rain
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Gloomy morning here, no rain as yet, just gloomy. The sycamore tree outside my window is more than half yellow.
Things are dying off. I'm cooking bacon and eggs for my wife, I might have some too. She likes eggs over toast, sunny side, but I usually do over easy. She also likes nearly raw hamburgers. She loves that raw hamburger in France thing. I forget what they call it. A lump of raw burger with a raw egg.
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they call it Tiger meat in NE Nebraska
serve it on saltines
call it Cannibal sammiches in Wisconsin
serve it on sliced bread with raw onions and cheese
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they call it Tiger meat in NE Nebraska
serve it on saltines
call it Cannibal sammiches in Wisconsin
serve it on sliced bread with raw onions and cheese
Gonna have to pass on that
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https://www.soscuisine.com/recipe/beef-tartare
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https://www.homesicktexan.com/parisa-medina-county-beef-tartare/
Medina might like.
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Rain is predicted in Iowa City. Starting at 6pm CDT and continuing throughout the evening.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRmJZIQfjbo
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https://www.homesicktexan.com/parisa-medina-county-beef-tartare/
Medina might like.
Different Medina
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Going out on a date with Mrs and another couple tonight. Will see some big noon action and 330s.
Far away from downtown and all the Swifties.
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I'm currently at my in laws in SE MI for a wedding today. Will be working around game day traffic to go to the different places.
Ton of Oregon fans on our flight over here yesterday from MSP. Delta must not run red-eye turns from PDX into Detroit anymore.
Pre-merger Northwest ran a bank of flights that left MSP ~9pm to all their West Coast stations, which then turned around and flew back as red eyes, getting back around 530am the next morning.
Not sure how the Gophers will fare down in Champaign today. The starting LG is out, and they haven't gotten any push in the run game.
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I'm currently at my in laws in SE MI for a wedding today. Will be working around game day traffic to go to the different places.
Ton of Oregon fans on our flight over here yesterday from MSP. Delta must not run red-eye turns from PDX into Detroit anymore.
Pre-merger Northwest ran a bank of flights that left MSP ~9pm to all their West Coast stations, which then turned around and flew back as red eyes, getting back around 530am the next morning.
Not sure how the Gophers will fare down in Champaign today. The starting LG is out, and they haven't gotten any push in the run game.
Curious- where in SE Mi?
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If anyone else is watching Gameday (I know nobody does, neither do I), WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK?!? This is demented.
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If anyone else is watching Gameday (I know nobody does, neither do I), WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK?!? This is demented.
What are they doing?
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yup, not passing up free tickets
also, not taking the Vette in the rain
The struggles you endure
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The struggles you endure
Fearless shall overcome
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they call it Tiger meat in NE Nebraska
serve it on saltines
call it Cannibal sammiches in Wisconsin
serve it on sliced bread with raw onions and cheese
I call the waiter and tell them to take it back and apply some fire this time
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Curious- where in SE Mi?
Ann Arbor area, but the wedding is in Ypsilanti.
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Cincydawg likes to take in CFB games in Ypsilanti.
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What are they doing?
Their weekly sob story was a young female UGA fan dying in a car accident. A 50 year old Florida fan gets her lungs. He "saw" her during the operation, having never seen her before. And then he converts to being a UGA fan, and not in honor of her, but because of a new feeling.
Why is all the hocus-pocus shit necessary. Just advocate for organ donations. Fucking weird and creepy and silly.
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Nice little Saturday going.
Knocked out a decent 10-mile run. Then had a hearty breakfast with the run group.
Now time for six hours of football on the couch, while catching up on a bunch of work/odds and ends. Then to the bar to watch Wisconsin and a couple other key games.
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Purdue starts by hitting a receiver right in the hands on a deep shot down the sidelines on the first play of the game and he drops it. Leading a 3 and out and now NU is driving.
I guess I'll be able to get to my daily workouts earlier than expected today...
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Buckeye coaches doing a great job early, players not so much
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If things are working Franklin changes QBs?
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Well that's no good
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https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1852750368133845216
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Ouch
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Nice drive!
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Whew, back in it.
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This is a great game if you like commercials
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This is a great game if you like commercials
Snoop looking old.
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Don't know what Klatt is going on about, that wasn't interference
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His michigan overlord pulling the strings
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Don't know what Klatt is going on about, that wasn't interference
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yeah. None at all. No hold not PI.
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Lucky break there
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yeah. None at all. No hold not PI.
That's basically saying it's illegal for the DB to try and play defense. He's allowed
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What was Tate doing there. Jumping for no reason
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Will need's to stretch that,he left six there.Tate is smooth but the sticks are moving again
edit - indeed they moved
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F'in loved that play. Faked the pitch
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That's basically saying it's illegal for the DB to try and play defense. He's allowed
holding a players arm down is defense? But stepping over a player isn’t allowed? Ok
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What was Tate doing there. Jumping for no reason
He got turned around - bad throw but we good - for the time being
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holding a players arm down is defense? But stepping over a player isn’t allowed? Ok
PSU hit J. Smith early on the very next offensive play. I'm not a big fan of calling PI when guys are in good coverage and the QB just throws and prays
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Looks incomplete to me
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Go call
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I don't think that was a catch but I didn't think they'd overturn it.
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PSU receivers interfered with each other
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What a big 4th down.
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That was adventurous
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PSU looks like PSU.
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Fumble???
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I appreciate Penn State for doing exactly what I would expect it to do. Which is strike a fire of hope, and then immediately urinate on that fire to put it out.
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Yeah that's a touchback. Geez Howard
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No TD
Is it at the 1 or the 20?
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How'd the REF miss that,almost 2 yds???:017:
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Ohhh, that’s a spicy replay.
I think the only way that it’s not Penn State ball is if they say, Howard was touching it and was standing out of bounds.
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Welp the lions get a break nice play on PSU.Will being Jekle/Hyde every other set of downs
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How'd the REF miss that,almost 2 yds???:017:
He was admiring Henderson's block
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He was admiring Henderson's block
That was a hell of a block!
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There's Carter
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That's a pick
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He had possession with a foot down.
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That's a pick
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Should have been OPI too
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Hell of a grab then a pick maybe - crazy
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We're making this for tonight: https://www.lecreuset.com/green-chile-chicken-and-dumplings/LCR-2655.html
But of course with the poultry allergy, we're substituting shredded pork for the chicken. I don't want to use any of the many packages of frozen smoked pulled pork I have in the freezer for this, so we needed fresh pork shoulder.
My wife had it on her grocery list for today. But I was at the Costco yesterday and they had an $8 off package deal on pork shoulder. Given that Costco has better per-pound meat prices than the grocery store, I figured I had to buy it.
Only problem? Instead of the 3-4# pork shoulder she would have bought at the story (adequate for this recipe), I bought 16# :57:
So I've got an 8# pork shoulder going in the crock pot, probably half or more that will end up getting shredded and vacuum sealed for future recipes where we want shredded pork but NOT smoked pulled pork. I also then vacuum sealed the other 8# and tossed it in the freezer for future use.
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First world.
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Gonna need some beer for the second half. Bell's Two Hearted
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If you bet the under those two apparent TD's turned into touch backs are keeping you in this.
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Just got back from a pickleball tournament. I went to watch my wife and her/my friend play.
They took home silver. There were two teams from Burnt Store Marina, in Englewood. They took gold and silver. The gold team never lost and pickled 3 out of their 6 opponents. Nice work.
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Drat
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Got some Great Lkes Oktoberfest,Penn Brewing Oktoberfest and Pabst - mix/match
Gonna need some beer for the second half. Bell's Two Hearted
Got some Great Lakes Oktoberfest,Penn Brewing Oktoberfest and Pabst - mix/match 😎
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That was probably holding against Carter and it still wasn't enough.
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Well he had 4 seconds no one open,nice 15 yd return wonder where BBTS is?
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Got some Great Lkes Oktoberfest,Penn Brewing Oktoberfest and Pabst - mix/matchGot some Great Lakes Oktoberfest,Penn Brewing Oktoberfest and Pabst - mix/match 😎
Ordered Great Lakes Christmas ale. Was delivered today
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A real life sack
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Who is this defense?
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A real life sack
And another
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Buckeyes need to grind out a TD here and that might be enough
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Oh man Smith just stopped
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Tough catch right there but the sun is a thing
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LOL weren't they just saying you can't let Jackson block one on one?
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My goodness Arkansas is breathtakingly awful.
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After the long run, my ass is chapped.
Also, look at Penn State, providing another syringe, full of hope before everything goes to hell again.
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didn't have possession - maybe,only one opinion counts.If he took a step and half it's a fumble - lot of gray area like the ref said
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Real-time that looks incomplete.
Slow motion looked like a catch and fumble.
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After the long run, my ass is chapped.
Also, look at Penn State, providing another syringe, full of hope before everything goes to hell again.
Don't go on long runs - have a beer
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So many high leverage reviews in this game.
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My goodness Arkansas is breathtakingly awful.
What a weird season.
They lost a game they have no business losing to Oklahoma State, but they did beat Tennessee when it was in the top five and barring a disaster, they will head into the season finale, having already clinched a bowl and ready to face a somewhat collapsing Missouri team.
so I think the final result will probably look fine enough for them. It’s also weird because Arkansas has had a defense that played better than I expected, by a lot, for most of the season. and they’re facing an old team that spent a ton of time under performing and now suddenly is just kicking ass.
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Don't go on long runs - have a beer
I have to admit, the after run beer is one of life, great pleasures, if you insist on the kind of self hatred that is being a runner
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Goophs on top of the Berts 16-10
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Whew
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Just made it to Knoxville, driving from Atlanta this morning; first time stepping foot in Knoxville. Trees along the way turning yellow and orange.
Parked in a garage downtown, found a basement bar along downtown’s main bar/theater corridor (Gay St) to finish watching Ohio St Vs Penn St.
Downtown Knoxville is within walking distance to the UT Campus so no more driving today means I can start drinking before walking into Neyland Stadium for this evening’s Tennessee game Vs Kentucky.
(horrendous booth review decision against Penn State)
(https://i.imgur.com/9c9a4dZ.jpeg)
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What a weird season.
They lost a game they have no business losing to Oklahoma State, but they did beat Tennessee when it was in the top five and barring a disaster, they will head into the season finale, having already clinched a bowl and ready to face a somewhat collapsing Missouri team.
so I think the final result will probably look fine enough for them. It’s also weird because Arkansas has had a defense that played better than I expected, by a lot, for most of the season. and they’re facing an old team that spent a ton of time under performing and now suddenly is just kicking ass.
I think it's all a lot simpler than that. The SEC is just really mediocre. Georgia's really good but fallible, Texas is fairly good but fallible, A&M might be good but we don't know yet mostly because their SEC schedule has been full of just really mediocre-to-bad teams, and the rest of the SEC is middlin' at best, including Alabama who has clearly fallen off, for obvious reasons.
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Fielding has been money today,Buckeyes have outgained PSU by 104 yds
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Dayum,that's not good,beautiful throw though
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I think it's all a lot simpler than that. The SEC is just really mediocre. Georgia's really good but fallible, Texas is fairly good but fallible, A&M might be good but we don't know yet mostly because their SEC schedule has been full of just really mediocre-to-bad teams, and the rest of the SEC is middlin' at best, including Alabama who has clearly fallen off, for obvious reasons.
I mean, that’s the sport this year (and I’m here for it). But Arkansas, at least to me, is net a bit worse than mediocre, but with dumb swings.
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I mean, that’s the sport this year (and I’m here for it). But Arkansas, at least to me, is net a bit worse than mediocre, but with dumb swings.
Well, yeah. I'm pretty sure I described them as "breathtakingly awful." :)
My point is that the times when they've "looked good" it's been against other mediocre-to-bad competition.
And their swings to the "low" side, are really, really bad.
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WHEW
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WOW B2B weeks goal line stands,hold onto the rock boys
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Couple more first downs and go home.
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Judkins Justice
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This patchwork OL is grinding down PSU on this drive, crazy:
4
9
6
15
6
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One first down wins
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- 1:19 left.
- Say 5 seconds for 1st then Timeout, 1:14.
- Say 5 seconds for 2nd then Timeout, 1:09.
- Say 5 seconds for 3rd, no more timeouts so another 40 runs off.
- Punt at around 00:20.
Worst case scenario.
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BANG
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Ballgame!
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Outside of the obvious,this was a great game - defense,enough close reviews,good calls today by Kelly
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The good part about Big Nude is now I can go take a nap
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Purdue falls to the purple kitties in OT.
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I am pleasantly surprised. If you would have told me that the buckeyes would go into that environment and hold Penn State to two field goals I would not have believed you. But mostly the offensive line stepped up big time today.
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Well, yeah. I'm pretty sure I described them as "breathtakingly awful." :)
My point is that the times when they've "looked good" it's been against other mediocre-to-bad competition.
And their swings to the "low" side, are really, really bad.
Ahhh. I see where we’re talking past each other.
You were talking about today, and I was talking about the whole season. Understandable crossing of wires.
I feel like Ole Miss is the same way, but like a step or two higher, at least on offense. Their low is basically “all that talent and scheme and why is this bad?”
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Ahhh. I see where we’re talking past each other.
You were talking about today, and I was talking about the whole season. Understandable crossing of wires.
I feel like Ole Miss is the same way, but like a step or two higher, at least on offense. Their low is basically “all that talent and scheme and why is this bad?”
Precisely! You stated it perfectly.
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Purdue falls to the purple kitties in OT.
I don’t think a school like Purdue fires a coach after two years, but Walters is going to at least make someone think about it.
Like 1-11 is right there, with the possibility of an IU dog walking.
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Switched over to CBS for Oregon at Michigan.
It is probably in my team's best interests for the Wolverines to win but I just can't bring myself to root for the evil heathens. Go Ducks!
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Outside of the obvious,this was a great game - defense,enough close reviews,good calls today by Kelly
If all you wanted is a Buckeyes win any way you can get it, then yes, thumbs up.
But overall this was another anti-climatic OSU-PSU game. Penn State has as mich talent as the Buckeyes, yet overthink themselves into low-risk, low-reward gameplay that gets finished off by an inability to overcome various mental blocks that always reveal themselves Vs Ohio State and Michigan. It’s a James Franklin trademark.
It didn’t help that Penn State was hosed by an overturned fumble call, but even had that gone their way Penn State would’ve still found a way to overthink it. Case in point - three predictable and dry runs up the middle on 1st and Goal late.
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If all you wanted is a Buckeyes win any way you can get it, then yes, thumbs up.
But overall this was another anti-climatic OSU-PSU game. Penn State has as mich talent as the Buckeyes, yet overthink themselves into low-risk, low-reward gameplay that gets finished off by an inability to overcome various mental blocks that always reveal themselves Vs Ohio State and Michigan. It’s a James Franklin trademark.
It didn’t help that Penn State was hosed by an overturned fumble call, but even had that gone their way Penn State would’ve still found a way to overthink it. Case in point - three predictable and dry runs up the middle on 1st and Goal late.
If you were cheering for PSU ( and you were) that’s how you see it.
Ohio State only allowed 2 field goals and gave a 14 point swing to Penn State with two bonehead plays that they made. Unforced errors.
Penn State
did not get hosed on what was a very obvious incompletion. It’s funny, I remember in the Festia Bowl against Clemson, a guy catching the ball and taking four steps, then being stripped and having the fumble return for a touchdown and having that one overturned. Cost OSU a trip to the NC.
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Buckeye71 2 minutes ago
One note I had (and relates to both teams), there were zero holding calls which is pretty unfathomable in an entire football game.
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If you were cheering for PSU ( and you were) that’s how you see it.
Ohio State only allowed 2 field goals and gave a 14 point swing to Penn State with two bonehead plays that they made. Unforced errors.
Penn State
did not get hosed on what was a very obvious incompletion. It’s funny, I remember in the Festia Bowl against Clemson, a guy catching the ball and taking four steps, then being stripped and having the fumble return for a touchdown and having that one overturned. Cost OSU a trip to the NC.
This is such an interesting thing osu fans have been doing lately. A call that goes in their favor, which probably shouldn’t have and they reference a similar call years ago that went against them to justify the current blown call in their favor. When in reality, only thing that matters is getting the call right, not what happened forever ago.
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I don’t think a school like Purdue fires a coach after two years, but Walters is going to at least make someone think about it.
Like 1-11 is right there, with the possibility of an IU dog walking.
Hazell got 4, but he inherited a much worse position. Granted he was just recruiting against OSU/UM etc helmet status, not also their wallets
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Nick Marsh is going to be expensive
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Switched over to CBS for Oregon at Michigan.
It is probably in my team's best interests for the Wolverines to win but I just can't bring myself to root for the evil heathens. Go Ducks!
Always root against Cancer Oregon. F that school.
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Always root against Cancer Oregon. F that school.
I don't disagree but if I ever saw a Buckeye rooting in favor of Michigan I'd proclaim that person to be a false fan.
I have a work friend who graduated from Auburn and he actually roots for Alabama in OOC games, I guess for some kind of "SECSECSEC" reasons? Anyway, I laugh at him when he attempts to tell me SEC rivalries are hard-core. Nope. If you EVER pull for your rival, that's just sad.
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This is such an interesting thing osu fans have been doing lately. A call that goes in their favor, which probably shouldn’t have and they reference a similar call years ago that went against them to justify the current blown call in their favor. When in reality, only thing that matters is getting the call right, not what happened forever ago.
Karen which one are you referring to? and quit lumping eveyone together. M not going anywhere so you want piss in someone else's cherrios
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It didn’t help that Penn State was hosed by an overturned fumble call, but even had that gone their way Penn State would’ve still found a way to overthink it.
Obviously we didn't see the same play. That was an incompletion every day of the week even Saturday
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This is such an interesting thing osu fans have been doing lately. A call that goes in their favor, which probably shouldn’t have and they reference a similar call years ago that went against them to justify the current blown call in their favor. When in reality, only thing that matters is getting the call right, not what happened forever ago.
And the call was the right call.
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Karen which one are you referring to? and quit lumping eveyone together. M not going anywhere so you want piss in someone else's cherrios
Well, when you respond like that, maybe you should be grouped in. Nothing about what I said was pissing in Cheerios, just an observation. If you’d like, I’ll spend time tomorrow showing other examples on this board of exactly what I described
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This is such an interesting thing osu fans have been doing lately. A call that goes in their favor, which probably shouldn’t have and they reference a similar call years ago that went against them to justify the current blown call in their favor. When in reality, only thing that matters is getting the call right, not what happened forever ago.
Of course we are going to compare to past calls because there *SHOULD* be consistency. This is hardly an OSU thing.
When a Buckeye got called for Targeting last week (overturned on appeal), my first thought was:
"Ok, if THAT is Targeting then so was the hit on Marvin Harrison in the CFP Semi-final so please send the 2022 NC trophy to Columbus."
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This is such an interesting thing osu fans have been doing lately. A call that goes in their favor, which probably shouldn’t have and they reference a similar call years ago that went against them to justify the current blown call in their favor. When in reality, only thing that matters is getting the call right, not what happened forever ago.
A funny thing I have noticed. For as long as I have been watching CFB.
Michigan fans on this forum basically saying every single call that goes Ohio State’s way is a bad call and every every single good play they run or nothing is called was a holding on Ohio State. Don’t believe me? Go to the Mgoboard.
It’s humorous. Virtually every single call that goes in Ohio states favor is a bad call and every single play that has success for OSU, the Michigan fans scream holding holding holding.
They are confusing what they pray for for what actually happened.
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I don’t think a school like Purdue fires a coach after two years, but Walters is going to at least make someone think about it.
Like 1-11 is right there, with the possibility of an IU dog walking.
I'm not sure they're in favor of waiting these days. I think they felt like they gave Hope too much run and then subsequently gave Hazell too much run. Hope had a horrible 2nd year but had some rotten luck in that the entire team was seeming injured that year. But even that year looked better than Purdue does this year, as I also see 1-11 as the most likely outcome here.
In your second year, you go 1-11 with your lone win being FCS? Not good.
The real question is: does he understand what is going wrong and have a plan that he can sell to the AD for how it will improve?
At this point to keep his job he can't just be a football coach. He'd better be one HELL of a salesman.
Hazell got 4, but he inherited a much worse position. Granted he was just recruiting against OSU/UM etc helmet status, not also their wallets
Eh. Hazell didn't fail because he was recruiting against OSU/UM. Purdue doesn't recruit against OSU/UM. If one of those programs has interest in a kid, Purdue might as well not knock on the door.
If you believe anything in the 247 composite roster ranking (https://247sports.com/season/2024-football/collegeteamtalentcomposite/?Conference=Big Ten), Purdue should be somewhere mid-pack of the conference in talent.
Although what's interesting is that if you look at that, you realize that Purdue is 0-5 against the conference right now, but they were soundly defeated by the three programs above them in talent ranking, and took both of the programs below him in talent ranking to OT.
Problem is that the next two games are against the #1 and #3 most-talented teams in the conference according to 247...
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Of course we are going to compare to past calls because there *SHOULD* be consistency. This is hardly an OSU thing.
When a Buckeye got called for Targeting last week (overturned on appeal), my first thought was:
"Ok, if THAT is Targeting then so was the hit on Marvin Harrison in the CFP Semi-final so please send the 2022 NC trophy to Columbus."
Thank you for furthering my point. It’s not using multiple examples on either side to show consistency, it’s bitterness from old calls attempting to justify a poor call today.
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A funny thing I have noticed. For as long as I have been watching CFB.
Michigan fans on this forum basically saying every single call that goes Ohio State’s way is a bad call and every every single good play they run or nothing is called was a holding on Ohio State. Don’t believe me? Go to the Mgoboard.
It’s humorous. Virtually every single call that goes in Ohio states favor is a bad call and every single play that has success for OSU, the Michigan fans scream holding holding holding.
They are confusing what they pray for for what actually happened.
Well, your argument is already conflicting with a poor example. Michigan fans on this forum.. just go to mgoboard to see it. Hmm
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Thank you for furthering my point. It’s not using multiple examples on either side to show consistency, it’s bitterness from old calls attempting to justify a poor call today.
Today's wasn't a poor call.
At the time I said that in real time it looked obviously incomplete. In slow motion it looked like a catch and fumble.
I don't think he had enough control to constitute a catch. It's a debatable point but the call wouldn't have been egregiously wrong either way.
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I was for replay because the assumption is they get the call right. For years now, whether it's the announcers being wrong, the resident former ref being wrong, or myself, the replay seems like a coin flip.
If replay is a coin flip, what good is it?
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Weird hearing Fowler and herby do WLOCP
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Gators leading the WLOCP after a pick.
If Oregon loses there is a chance tOSU could be #1 tomorrow.
Nah, still can't.
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Florida's had the ball for like 8 plays, but just picked off UGA and Lagway throws a bomb for the TD. 7-3 Gators!!
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Michigan fan just being a hater. It doesn’t actually matter that the receiver’s arm is being held down and Ohio state scored shortly after this missed call that gave them the ball back because there was a missed pass interference call against Ohio state call 4 years ago and that’s all that matters because it justifies this no call because they owed us.
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Weird hearing Fowler and herby do WLOCP
10 years ago, Herbie could get all the STDs he'd want there. :72:
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Michigan fan just being a hater. It doesn’t actually matter that the receiver’s arm is being held down and Ohio state scored shortly after this missed call that gave them the ball back because there was a missed pass interference call against Ohio state call 4 years ago and that’s all that matters because it justifies this no call because they owed us.
On this play, I'd argue the penalty came when the WR broke outside. I'm not sure if the ball was in the air yet or not, but that part of the play was worse than the image here.
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Today's wasn't a poor call.
At the time I said that in real time it looked obviously incomplete. In slow motion it looked like a catch and fumble.
I don't think he had enough control to constitute a catch. It's a debatable point but the call wouldn't have been egregiously wrong either way.
I’m not referencing that call. I personally thought it was a catch, but I think your final sentence is a fair statement.
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Michigan fan just being a hater. It doesn’t actually matter that the receiver’s arm is being held down and Ohio state scored shortly after this missed call that gave them the ball back because there was a missed pass interference call against Ohio state call 4 years ago and that’s all that matters because it justifies this no call because they owed us.
You are just sore because you are finding out that your team can't compete without cheating.
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You are just sore because you are finding out that your team can't compete without cheating.
Yep. And of course you went to the hot button statement which caused me to stop communicating with you in the last. Is this the time you start talking about my kids again?
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Carson Pick strikes again!!!
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Yep. And of course you went to the hot button statement which caused me to stop communicating with you in the last. Is this the time you start talking about my kids again?
You choose to stick with a program that promoted a guy who obstructed an ongoing NCAA investigation by destroying evidence. Your choice.
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Carson Pick strikes again!!!
Heck of a WLOCP for your Gators so far.
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You choose to stick with a program that promoted a guy who obstructed an ongoing NCAA investigation by destroying evidence. Your choice.
You chose to have no proper conduct on this board once again. The team I’ve supported my entire life and their error in choices doesn’t reflect my character. Your choice of actions do reflect yours.
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Haha, Holly Rowe with a gem: Florida WR quote, "the safeties don't know."
Ruh roh, ruga
(the starters come back after the half, but 10 min could be a long time)
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Hazell got 4, but he inherited a much worse position. Granted he was just recruiting against OSU/UM etc helmet status, not also their wallets
That is true, and it is kind of impressive that he got a fourth year.
But as you said, the previous staff situation was different, as was the fact they got slightly better in year 2. Where this feels like a backslide.
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You chose to have no proper conduct on this board once again. The team I’ve supported my entire life and their error in choices doesn’t reflect my character. Your choice of actions do reflect yours.
Trash.
The program you choose to support stole a Final Four with what Wikipedia calls "one of the largest incidents involving payments to athletes in American collegiate history".
Trash.
Then in the past three years they stole three B1G Championships, three CFP appearances, and a NC with the biggest cheating scandal in modern CFB history.
Trash.
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Alll all right I'm up from my nap we can stop the fussiness
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Difference between bringing in a 17 year old QB and a 23 year old QB on display here
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Alll all right I'm up from my nap we can stop the fussiness
Please?
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(https://i.imgur.com/0r28Ubh.jpeg)
Michigan fan just being a hater. It doesn’t actually matter that the receiver’s arm is being held down and Ohio state scored shortly after this missed call that gave them the ball back because there was a missed pass interference call against Ohio state call 4 years ago and that’s all that matters because it justifies this no call because they owed us.
You missed 4 coaches getting fired and the head coach getting suspended twice in one season but you were just fine with that.The OSU spotting PSU 7 just like they did for your cheating weasels last year.Find the time stamp on that was there any prior contact?
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Gators came to Jax to play.
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Gators came to Jax to play.
Yikes, now down a QB.
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Cancel the upset. Lagway is out. 3rd-string Yale transfer is QBing us vs UGA now.
Fuck.
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That is true, and it is kind of impressive that he got a fourth year.
But as you said, the previous staff situation was different, as was the fact they got slightly better in year 2. Where this feels like a backslide.
Yeah, I don't know how he got a 4th year. I'm a pretty level-headed guy, but I actually wrote the AD a letter after Purdue lost to Wisconsin in year 3 arguing that Hazell should be gone, and if not Hazell, there was NO possible way to keep John Shoop around. Purdue in that game tried to play a ground-based run-out-the-clock strategy IN THE FIRST HALF of that game, IMHO just to try to get the game over quickly and not give Wisconsin enough possessions to blow us out by 40+. It was clear that they weren't even trying, and that was right before a bye week so it would be the perfect time to fire your HC or at least OC.
I still don't understand how he could be kept another season. Except for the fact that Morgan Burke was cheap and probably didn't want to spend the buyout yet.
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MSU lost three defensive starters, and Indiana scored three TDs.
MSU OL is getting absolutely abused, which is bad, but worse, the playcalling doesnt seem to be accounting for that
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The real question is: does he understand what is going wrong and have a plan that he can sell to the AD for how it will improve?
This.
If I'm the AD, he's going to have to explain how this will improve.
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Problem is that the next two games are against the #1 and #3 most-talented teams in the conference according to 247...
Purdue's schedule is a nightmare. They get all the best teams in the league.
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Purdue's schedule is a nightmare. They get all the best teams in the league.
Yeah, like Illinois and Indiana.
Wait... Whut?! :smiley_confused1:
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Yeah, like Illinois and Indiana.
Wait... Whut?! :smiley_confused1:
LoL, but seriously:
On the attached they get:
Indiana
Oregon
Penn State
Ohio State
IIllinois
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Cancel the upset. Lagway is out. 3rd-string Yale transfer is QBing us vs UGA now.
Fuck.
What happened? Is saw he was carted off
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Cancel the upset. Lagway is out. 3rd-string Yale transfer is QBing us vs UGA now.
It feels like UF's defense is going to have to outscore UGA by themselves.
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Yay. The refs got a targeting call correct in the Florida versus Georgia game.
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Is the Etienne (sp?) Who plays for UGA related to the one who played for Clemson?
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Is the Etienne (sp?) Who plays for UGA related to the one who played for Clemson?
Little brother. Also a former Gator.
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UCLA 19
UNL 7
UCLA has 249 total yds,'Skers 71
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UCLA 19
UNL 7
UCLA has 249 total yds,'Skers 71
It Nebraska finds a way to miss a bowl game, is Rhules seat hot?
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UCLA 19
UNL 7
UCLA has 249 total yds,'Skers 71
This is the craziness that is CFB. Nebraska's last three games are:
- Getting obliterated by Indiana.
- Almost taking out Ohio State.
- Currently losing by two scores to UCLA.
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What happened? Is saw he was carted off
Looked like a badly pulled hamstring or worse. Just a normal football move. Slipped on the field some. That field is shitty, as several players have lost footing throughout the game.
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Is the Etienne (sp?) Who plays for UGA related to the one who played for Clemson?
Yes, and he's a treasonous ass.
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It Nebraska finds a way to miss a bowl game, is Rhules seat hot?
Nope I'm sure they're still eating part of Frost's windfall,give him 3-4 yrs at least
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Nice of the OC to save a smart playcall for being down 20
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Bruins 27
'Skers 7
Oof - at home
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MSU lost three defensive starters, and Indiana scored three TDs.
MSU OL is getting absolutely abused, which is bad, but worse, the playcalling doesnt seem to be accounting for that
And now the starting QB
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Yay. The refs got a targeting call correct in the Florida versus Georgia game.
Why you watching SEC garbage? Stop that.
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Why you watching SEC garbage? Stop that.
It is a humongous outdoor cocktail party, you gotta appreciate that.
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Another pick!
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Three picks seems to be his magic number.
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We suck.
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We suck.
Seems like something is missing at Michigan this year. Like their play callers just don't know as much.
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Is Florida even going to be able to field a starting 22 in Austin next week? This is brutal.
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Seems like something is missing at Michigan this year. Like their play callers just don't know as much.
Like a person illegally scouting
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Indiana-OSU looking like a winner heads to the B1G championship game
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Weird hearing Fowler and herby do WLOCP
Even weirder when you then flip the channel to Nessler and Danielson doing a Big Ten game.
Weirder still that one of the teams in that Big Ten game is . . . Oregon.
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I'm mad that the Gophers lost to this junk Michigan team.
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Michigan messing around trying to make this a game
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weasels get a TD here it could get interseting,if they do I'm rooting for them.....no I'm not
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Welp, not so much
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Well the fat lady is tuning up in AA - as soon as she gets out of her maize/blue cheerleading tights
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Welp, not so much
What happened, I was on the 🍸 game
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What happened, I was on the 🍸 game
Michigan drove down to the 15 or so with a chance to cut it to a one score game, but couldn't convert
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What happened, I was on the 🍸 game
M turned the ball over on downs in the redzone
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For those who were watching Oregon instead, update from WLOCP:
It was tied at 13 and Florida got deep into UGA territory then couldn't convert so they sent their FG unit out for an easy FG and a 16-13 lead.
The snap was bad and they lost ~30 yards whereupon UGA quickly scored for a 20-13 lead.
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Dayum
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Damn that Mason Graham is something. Love watching that kid play. Wish he was a Buckeye.
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Ducks 90 yrd drive in 7 plays,add another 7 with 25 seconds going in dry
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Valiant effort by the Gators, but I think it's a done deal now.
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LOL Herbie talking about the Florida fans giving up down 7 in the fourth quarter. Can't even blame them
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Valiant effort by the Gators, but I think it's a done deal now.
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Florida just got a gift in the form of a PF by UGA, the Gators are now inside the 15.
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Is this a Chomp?
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We're trying to beat UGA with our hands tied behind our backs.
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Give Kirby the smarts
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We're trying to beat UGA with our hands tied behind our backs.
UGA gets a 3rd and long vs our 3rd-string CB
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Iowa st- TT just wild
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Iowa State lost, so everyone can shut up about them.
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Welp
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Crap
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Iowa State lost, so everyone can shut up about them.
It's the playoff era, they are still fine
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Welp again
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Ok, now I think it is over.
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Arizona should sent a fruit basket to Tallahassee for taking attention away from how much theyve underachieved
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Whew.
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This Yale kid's throwing motion looks like Old Hoss Radbourne's pitching windup. Makes Tebow look like Montana.
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This Yale kid's throwing motion looks like Old Hoss Radbourne's pitching windup. Makes Tebow look like Montana.
I doubt there is film of old Hoss as he pitched in what the 1880s?Didn't he win like 60 games one season?
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I doubt there is film of old Hoss as he pitched in what the 1880s?Didn't he win like 60 games one season?
Yeah, but he didn't face a pass-rush :96:
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A loss isn’t good but Florida competed.
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Anyone see this?Tom Herman,wow maybe Zack Smith was right about him doing blow off of a stripper.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1852722814823825909
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on a Buckeye Board
"God bless Dan Lanning going for the late cover"
:043:
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Potential upset in Columbia. SC brewing. Ags down 30-20 with 11:54 in the 4th.
Will they find some more of last week's magic and mount a comeback? Guess we'll see!
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Upset confirmed, Gamecocks win 44-20.
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Potential upset in Columbia. SC brewing. Ags down 30-20 with 11:54 in the 4th.
Will they find some more of last week's magic and mount a comeback? Guess we'll see!
South Carolina is my spirit animal. In this age of NIL,.program building os dead. And the mid level programs cant compete year to year. You kind of just have to hope the talent you cobble together works. In 2022, they were good. Last year, they werent. Now they are again. Thats the best most of us can hope for
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Why is A&M only a 3-point favorite?
USCe wins 44-20.
Oh, that's why.
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What's the difference between Penn State and a strong G5 team?
They beat everyone who sucks, but lose every time they play a big-boy team.
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Tennessee has scored 7 points total in its last 4 first halves.
They are 3-1 in those games.
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Finally, I was worried Florida would be a dumpster fire this year. We're 4-4 and staring at 3 more losses in the face.
But...
at least we're not FSU. The Noles are 1-8 and play ND next week. Their only win was by 5 vs Cal.
A 5-7 season vs the toughest schedule in the country with all of our injuries is not too shabby. But Napier's seat will remain hot until Florida is Florida again.
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Badgers are not very good.
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Finally, I was worried Florida would be a dumpster fire this year. We're 4-4 and staring at 3 more losses in the face.
But...
at least we're not FSU. The Noles are 1-8 and play ND next week. Their only win was by 5 vs Cal.
A 5-7 season vs the toughest schedule in the country with all of our injuries is not too shabby. But Napier's seat will remain hot until Florida is Florida again.
I know you want to see FSU lose every game, which is proper and appropriate for a rival, but I think it would be hilarious if FSU beat ND.
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Ohio State might be the best team in the country, they appear to be one of a small group of candidates. I guess Oregon is solid. UGA has QB issues quite unexpectedly.
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I know you want to see FSU lose every game, which is proper and appropriate for a rival, but I think it would be hilarious if FSU beat ND.
ND has otherwise a pretty easy path to a 5-6-7 seed.
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ND has otherwise a pretty easy path to a 5-6-7 seed.
Yeah, but they're a pretty obvious pretender and will get bounced from the playoffs quickly. Same thing for Miami.
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Miami seems able to score points on about anyone. ND as a 6 seed gets the home game, could win that one. A 11 seed is probably not great either.
UGA is at Ole Miss next weekend with a LOT to try and fix.
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Miami has had the super-biased ACC refs bail them out three times this season already. The league office is clearly pushing its agenda. They're toast when they play a good team with neutral refs.
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Ohio State might be the best team in the country
Um,no they looked like a contender last night, not so much the week before
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A lot of ranked teams lost yesterday, none of the top level guys (A&M of course). The rankings will be a bit peculiar.
Clemson lost to Laville, I didn't catch that one yesterday. That tarnishes a UGA win a bit. I sense Miami is on rollers to the ACC CG.
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Fearless shall overcome
should have stayed home
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I know you want to see FSU lose every game, which is proper and appropriate for a rival, but I think it would be hilarious if FSU beat ND.
It would be kind of comical if they beat Florida as well, just because of what it would do to Fro.
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My guess is the FSU players have mailed it in, trying not to get hurt now. Maybe a few think of getting drafted.
I can't think of a team highly regarded preseason that ended up this way. 1-8???
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should have stayed home
Well the vette didn't get wet
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It would be kind of comical if they beat Florida as well, just because of what it would do to Fro.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oEjHAUOqG3lSS0f1C/200w.gif?cid=6c09b95201e0pm0gdwu52jze62y8i6uwebqkh0z4p6638u41&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
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It Nebraska finds a way to miss a bowl game, is Rhules seat hot?
yes
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Well the vette didn't get wet
smart move to stay home for the Vette
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Outside of Indiana, they've all been one-score losses.
Luckily for Rhule, that excuse hadn't already worn out six ways from Sunday by the time he showed up.
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Does anyone here find any value in this FPI thing? I can't.
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Vandy is 6-3 with three point losses to Texas and Mizzou and a 5 point loss AT Georgia State, somehow (a team that lost the next 5 games to be 2-6). Vandy is the kind of team you just don't want to play. They now host South Carolina (another team you don't want to play) and then are at LSU before hosting Tennessee.
GO DORES!!!
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Vandy is 6-3 with three point losses to Texas and Mizzou and a 5 point loss AT Georgia State, somehow (a team that lost the next 5 games to be 2-6). Vandy is the kind of team you just don't want to play. They now host South Carolina (another team you don't want to play) and then are at LSU before hosting Tennessee.
GO DORES!!!
Auburn probably should have added Diego Pavia
https://twitter.com/JasonKirk_fyi/status/1852804741300117705
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Does anyone here find any value in this FPI thing? I can't.
Does the answer I don't know/care what it is count?
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Auburn probably should have added Diego Pavia
https://twitter.com/JasonKirk_fyi/status/1852804741300117705
Perhaps Hugh had a relapse calling the girls and hasn't dialed up the right plays
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Does the answer I don't know/care what it is count?
Of course, I thought perhaps someone could explain why anyone would pay attention to it.
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Does anyone here find any value in this FPI thing? I can't.
Of course, I thought perhaps someone could explain why anyone would pay attention to it.
ESPN needed to have their own proprietary power index ranking/prediction system, likely for commercial/marketing purposes. So they created FPI.
Is it an equal or better predictive system than anything else? I don't know. I've never really dug into it.
But that's all it is. It's just like any other power index algorithm, only this one is ESPN's.
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ESPN needed to have their own proprietary power index ranking/prediction system, likely for commercial/marketing purposes. So they created FPI.
Fargin' Polluted Idiots
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I glance at it at times, and always wonder what their algoritm values. Losing to Vandy seems to be a plus.
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ESPN needed to have their own proprietary power index ranking/prediction system, likely for commercial/marketing purposes. So they created FPI.
Is it an equal or better predictive system than anything else? I don't know. I've never really dug into it.
But that's all it is. It's just like any other power index algorithm, only this one is ESPN's.
It's weird because they then hired Bill Connelly and publish SP+ too. Not sure why they keep both.
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My guess is the FSU players have mailed it in, trying not to get hurt now. Maybe a few think of getting drafted.
I can't think of a team highly regarded preseason that ended up this way. 1-8???
Especially with no major offensive players getting hurt. They took DJU, who had to downgrade himself from a Clemson to an Oregon State, and thought he'd POOF some QB skills en route somehow. Dipshits.
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The 8th-best team in the SEC is either LSU, Ole Miss, or South Carolina. That's fucking impressive...and without programs like OU or Florida factoring in the top 8 at all.
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(https://i.imgur.com/pLgIc8O.jpeg)
Okay, so if at first that initial list of factors sounds like dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge....maybe just keep reading and give it a chance.
I'm going to compare this stuff to baseball terms, because I'm pretty well-versed in that and Moneyball helped spread it to many people.
Efficiency is the #1 stat this guy has determined helps teams be good and win games. Like with on-base % in baseball. It's not a bulk of the overall picture, it's not the only important thing, but if you had to pick one and only one stat, that's it.
SP+ attempts to value that as well as explosiveness, which would be like SLG% in baseball. It's akin to OPS in baseball, this SP+. Yes, Tony Gwynn was great at having a high batting average, but you need some slugging in there, too. Efficiency + explosive plays = OBP + SLG
Efficiency seems to be a few things - yards gained on first down, first downs, and points scored per drive.
Explosiveness would seem to be yards per attempt, long plays, etc.
I assume limiting these on defense is incorporated as well.
It specifies how turnovers and red zone success rate tend to be more random, and I think we mostly agree with that. I'd suggest turnovers are more random, but that's an untested estimate.
Sacks are good (duh) and incorporated here, but something I've noticed in my research is how Georgia under Smart tends not to have great sack totals. Like year after year, it's not really a priority for them, which makes them unique, as everyone else seems to consistently have more. Smart is doing something different when it comes to having great defenses without ebbs and flows in sacks.
(https://i.imgur.com/nTi2NSp.jpeg)
So what SP+ is doing is not rewarding big wins and penalizing losses, but simply taking each small piece of a football game (or an at-bat in baseball) and adding/subtracting it to tell the story of how good a team is.
Maybe you don't believe you can take apart and engine 100% and put it back together and call it the same engine, but maybe you can. It's an attempt to remove the inherit bias we all possess, take out as much of the randomness as you can, and to just rate teams on what is.
You can agree with it or not, and we all find issues with it, I'm sure. But those issues we have are probably due to those human feelings and preconceived notions that most every formula tries to eliminate.
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It's weird because they then hired Bill Connelly and publish SP+ too. Not sure why they keep both.
I figured once they brought him in they would discontinue it
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Man vs algorithm probably gets clicks and eyeballs.