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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Temp430 on October 28, 2024, 08:40:57 AM
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You can find this game on CBS or Paramount+ at 3:30 PM EDT. Oregon is favored by two touchdowns. Looks like Michigan will continue with the Warren-Orji QB duo and I do not see a path to victory for Michigan.
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hide yo kids.
Michigan is going to get absolutely walloped. Spread isn't big enough. Oregon by 4 TD's.
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Look at the bright side one of the D-lineman may fall on Dillon Gabriel and even the playing field
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MSU outgained Michigan by over 100 yards. Michigan had no turnovers, no penalties, and had a major special teams edge. Won by 7.
Credit to the fans. Michigan is certainly a tougher out at home, but Oregon looks like the class of the league right now.
Oregon 28, Michigan 17
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MSU outgained Michigan by over 100 yards. Michigan had no turnovers, no penalties, and had a major special teams edge. Won by 7.
Credit to the fans. Michigan is certainly a tougher out at home, but Oregon looks like the class of the league right now.
Oregon 28, Michigan 17
I don’t see how it ends up this close. The only way possible is if Michigan has a game plan on offense like their first drive after halftime. If they go to this run up the middle on first and second down and “overpower” teams, then they’ll lose by 30
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I'd like to see the Wolverines get mollywhopped, but I feel like they are going to pull this one out at home.
Can't seem to shake the hunch, so I'm just gonna have to roll with it.
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Jack Tuttle calling it quits
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I don’t see how it ends up this close. The only way possible is if Michigan has a game plan on offense like their first drive after halftime. If they go to this run up the middle on first and second down and “overpower” teams, then they’ll lose by 30
I think Michigan can match them in the trenches. Michigan is the rare team I trust on the lines, but their skills positions are shit. Then you factor the cross country travel, I think Michigan keeps it interesting.
Michigan fans are more down on Michigan than outsiders are, for the first time in recent memory. I picked UM to beat MSU 27-20. That was pretty damn close. Michigans offense is relatively bad. Its not actually bad. They are averaging more ppg in conference games than MSU. So every everyone picking MSU to win, I guess was assuming MSU suddenly had a better defense than Michigan?
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ppg don't always come from a bad offense
Iowa scores on defense and special teams
I picked MSU over Michigan because of bad offense, mostly QB play
Michigan's QBs had decent performances
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Oregon 28, Michigan 17
I'm glad I didn't put money on it, bc that was a bullshit cover
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hide yo kids.
Michigan is going to get absolutely walloped. Spread isn't big enough. Oregon by 4 TD's.
kinda called it.
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kinda called it.
I mean backdoor cover after Michigan made a dumbass playcall that would have made it a 1 score game
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Michigan QB Warren looked good again. I dare say even better than serviceable. Injuries to Michigan’s OL and DBs are taking a toll. Michigan play calling on offense was mind boggling at times. Oregon is good and the refs were bad.
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I'd like to see the Wolverines get mollywhopped
??? Is that what molly gets on her Honeymoon?
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And I agree Warren looked sharp and think he could be it moving forward. Had 2 TDs and no turnovers,still might want to alternate the others to avoid him getting killed
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Michigan will be 6-6 this year with losses to OsU and Indiana. Will Johnson taking most of the season off hasn’t helped and play calling may now be the bigger problem over the QB play. Personally, I hope there’s an overhaul in coaching staff in the offseason. So many are focused on paying the high level recruits. I don’t think that matters if you have poor coaching and in-game decision making.
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Which NC teams in the past 30 years have fallen so far as Michigan? I presume BYU did back in the day.
FSU did kind of claim an undefeated season last year, they now are 1-8, probably will end up 2-10.
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Which NC teams in the past 30 years have fallen so far as Michigan? I presume BYU did back in the day.
FSU did kind of claim an undefeated season last year, they now are 1-8, probably will end up 2-10.
FSU’s fall has probably been a little tough but you pose a great question. Michigan just simply lost almost everything that lead them to that success. Top 10 drafted qb, key starters at rb and WR. Most important guys on both the offensive and defensive line and the key play callers on both sides of the ball along with the head coach and key strength coach. The program was basically gutted and very few were left behind with experience outside of a couple players that are protecting their draft status over going all-in and this is one time I actually understand.
this has certainly not been a Nick Saban reload the next season type follow-up season. Closer to the opposite.
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Which NC teams in the past 30 years have fallen so far as Michigan? I presume BYU did back in the day.
FSU did kind of claim an undefeated season last year, they now are 1-8, probably will end up 2-10.
Limiting it to just the two major polls, because as you back you find like 5 teams claiming NCs, I found 4 cases where the defending champ lost 5 games. That appears to be the most
- 2020 LSU went 5-5 in the COVID year
- 2011 Auburn went 8-5
- 2008 LSU went 8-5
- 1991 Georgia Tech went 8-5
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A drop to 6-6 would be rather singular aside from the COVID year (*********).
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A drop to 6-6 would be rather singular aside from the COVID year (*********).
Yeah, I'm not really sure what to do with that. They obviously have the worst winning percentage of the group, but they also only played SEC teams, no non conference
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Limiting it to just the two major polls, because as you back you find like 5 teams claiming NCs, I found 4 cases where the defending champ lost 5 games. That appears to be the most
- 2020 LSU went 5-5 in the COVID year
- 2011 Auburn went 8-5
- 2008 LSU went 8-5
- 1991 Georgia Tech went 8-5
Thanks for adding this. Very interesting. Feels similar to 2007-2008 LSU with a lot of important talent moving on, only a harder fall with coaching changes on top of it.
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Which NC teams in the past 30 years have fallen so far as Michigan? I presume BYU did back in the day.
FSU did kind of claim an undefeated season last year, they now are 1-8, probably will end up 2-10.
Well, NC teams usually don't have their coaches flee to the NFL to avoid NCAA investigations...
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2008 LSU Football Schedule | FBSchedules.com (https://fbschedules.com/2008-lsu-football-schedule/)
LSU had some close losses to good teams and then won the Peach Bowl.
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Thanks for adding this. Very interesting. Feels similar to 2007-2008 LSU with a lot of important talent moving on, only a harder fall with coaching changes on top of it.
Yeah the two LSU teams seem like the closest comparison. Auburn was a one man team, and that man left, and I'm not sure Georgia Tech was all that good in 1990
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Well, NC teams usually don't have their coaches flee to the NFL to avoid NCAA investigations...
wait people actually believe this dumb retarded line of bullshit?
Jeem didn’t flee shit. The guy has been openly flirting with NFL teams for the previous 3 off-seasons before finally pulling the trigger on an offer he liked.
NFL job >>>>>>>> college job. Period. End of discussion. End of story. Only a fool would turn down the NFL to coach college. Or only someone who knew their limitations and knew they were dog shit at coaching in the NFL. Jeem however was wildly successful in his previous NFL stint and is one of only a handful of guys ever in coaching history to be good at both levels.
Chargers gave Jeem a $16.5 million a year contract- which is significantly more than he was making at Michigan- and especially during that 2021 season when Michigan cut his contract in half- Chargers gave Jeem full control of football operations- Jeem handpicked the GM and has final say on roster moves- and oh yeah not to mention Chargers already had an elite young QB in place. There was no universe in existence where Jeem wasn’t taking that Chargers job if offered. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.
Chargers are 5-3 and 2nd place in their division and on track to make the playoffs with the best defense in the entire NFL by every stat and advanced metric…but let me guess SigNz err DeRp dErP. Newsflash: Jesse Minter is just that good. Guy is the fucking truth and will be an NFL head coach within 3 years. Bookmark it.
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Yeah the two LSU teams seem like the closest comparison. Auburn was a one man team, and that man left, and I'm not sure Georgia Tech was all that good in 1990
Tech was pretty good that year, very good mobile QB, decent lines, they were a solid team, but obviously not a 1995 Nebraska, just good enough to win nearly every game, and then the citrus bowl against #19 Nebraska. They kind of dodged a heavy weight.
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According to Front Office Sports, the average pay of the twenty highest paid NFL head coaches is $8.98 million. And the average pay of the twenty highest paid NCAA football head coaches (again, according to Front Office Sports) is $8.99 million.
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I wouldn't have guessed that
not 20 deep for college
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In fairness, Mel Tucker, Jimbo Fisher, and Ed Orgeron might all be on that list
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There are some obvious other advantages in being an NFL coach of course. I'd guess they get quite a bit more time off.
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Well, NC teams usually don't have their coaches flee to the NFL to avoid NCAA investigations...
Harbaugh has always shared his desire to go back to the NFL so I'm not sure why people jump to this. He won a national championship and has always vocalized his ultimate goal is to win a Super Bowl.
Secondly, Jesse Minter and Harbaugh currently have the lowest PPG defense in the NFL, a team that was ranked 23rd a year ago. So while so many have to convince themselves the only reason Michigan won is because they cheated, maybe it's possible their coaching, especially on the defensive side of the ball were just incredibly talented and better than their peers and it was time to move to the ultimate coaching platform in their sport.
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maybe it's possible their coaching, especially on the defensive side of the ball were just incredibly talented and better than their peers and it was time to move to the ultimate coaching platform in their sport.
it's possible
unfortunately, we will never know
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Yes, I get it.
If you've always voiced a desire to retire in Costa Rica, and you retire in Costa Rica, then it all makes sense.
However if you do so right after you've robbed a bank and the Feds are closing in around you, some might claim that the decision had ulterior motives beyond just an expressed desire.
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Yes, I get it.
If you've always voiced a desire to retire in Costa Rica, and you retire in Costa Rica, then it all makes sense.
However if you do so right after you've robbed a bank and the Feds are closing in around you, some might claim that the decision had ulterior motives beyond just an expressed desire.
Yeah, except there's no tangible proof that you actually robbed the bank. The bank had excessive losses in types of transactions that all banks partake in, which is a gray area but is common, so instead of owning the inability to navigate the market, crying robbery is just the methodology of those that always find excuses instead of facing the truth of inferiority.
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Oh, we *know* the bank was robbed.
What we don't know is whether the robber made away with the entire contents of the vault for millions of dollars, or just grabbed what he could get out of one teller's till and realized later he took all that risk for a measly $500.
But the fact that rules laws were broken is kinda beyond dispute at this point.
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Oh, we *know* the bank was robbed.
What we don't know is whether the robber made away with the entire contents of the vault for millions of dollars, or just grabbed what he could get out of one teller's till and realized later he took all that risk for a measly $500.
But the fact that rules laws were broken is kinda beyond dispute at this point.
Lol. That’s a pretty funny and very fair response. Well done sir. You got a good laugh out of me on that one.