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Title: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 21, 2024, 09:49:10 AM
This game can be found on BTN at 7:30 PM Saturday.  Michigan is favored by 5.5 pts early on.  Why?  Michigan's defense is OK until they tire from being on the field all day because Michigan's offense is turnover prone and can't pass protect and pass the ball worth a shit.  Sparty has a QB unlike Michigan and can put 11 men in the box which will be more than enough to stop Michigan's one dimensional rushing offense.

Sparty    42
Michigan 10
Title: Re: Michigan State(4-3, 2-2) at Michigan (4-3, 2-2) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 21, 2024, 10:34:02 AM
I'll believe Michigan State's OL is this vastly improved when they do it more than once.  And as bad as Michigan's offense seems, they've looked ok at home against comparable teams to MSU (USC and Minnesota).  They are averaging more ppg in Big Ten play than MSU

Michigan 27, Michigan State 20
Title: Re: Michigan State(4-3, 2-2) at Michigan (4-3, 2-2) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 21, 2024, 10:39:47 AM
Sparty. I just don't see how Michigan scores points on offense- the QB play is THAT bad and Wink Martindale is a MASSIVE downgrade at DC from wunderkid Jesse Minter.
Title: Re: Michigan State(4-3, 2-2) at Michigan (4-3, 2-2) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 21, 2024, 10:42:03 AM
I'd guess Michigan's QB play and offense is similar to Iowa's
Title: Re: Michigan State(4-3, 2-2) at Michigan (4-3, 2-2) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 21, 2024, 11:01:38 AM
I love this game - even the SEC schools  look on in admiration for true hatred like this - which can be a good thing
>:(
Title: Re: Michigan State(4-3, 2-2) at Michigan (4-3, 2-2) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 21, 2024, 11:04:27 AM
 as bad as Michigan's offense seems, they've looked ok at home against comparable teams to MSU (USC and Minnesota).  They are averaging more ppg in Big Ten play than MSU

Michigan 27, Michigan State 20
This is just crazy talk,now stop it!!!
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 22, 2024, 03:08:15 AM
Think I’ll record this game on the DVR and watch it in the morning over coffee when I can skip through the commercials and whatnot to minimize the trauma.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2024, 07:33:01 AM
I usually make a short trip to the fridge for another beer to skip the commercials

if it's a long break like the end of the quarter, I also hit the pisser
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 22, 2024, 08:41:21 AM
I usually make a short trip to the fridge for another beer to skip the commercials

if it's a long break like the end of the quarter, I make it a boilermaker
FIFY
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 22, 2024, 08:45:59 AM
A beer at every commercial break in this day and age would be a hell of a drinking game. 
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 22, 2024, 08:46:58 AM
A beer at every commercial break in this day and age would be a hell of a drinking game.
I was gonna say... that's a trip to the ER.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2024, 08:50:36 AM
hah!  I'm 3/4ers German!
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 22, 2024, 08:51:38 AM
I'm 100 percent.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 22, 2024, 08:52:37 AM
A beer at every commercial break in this day and age would be a hell of a drinking game.
We had a drinking game in college during basketball games, where you'd each have a team, and you'd swig some beer for a 2 and do a shot for a 3.  That game would be impossible now.  
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: GopherRock on October 22, 2024, 10:03:33 AM
Michigan better win this one if they don't want to be at the mercy of the bowl schedulers, because they've got 3 more sure losses on the slate (tOSU, Indiana, and Oregon).
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 22, 2024, 10:43:09 AM
Think I’ll record this game on the DVR and watch it in the morning over coffee when I can skip through the commercials and whatnot to minimize the trauma.
If you want to avoid the trauma maybe you should watch the commercials and skip over Michigan's offense?
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 22, 2024, 10:46:29 AM
Exactly, the commercials are the only time you get pumped up feeling the cheesiest
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 22, 2024, 11:23:48 AM
hah!  I'm 3/4ers German!
Eins,zwei,drei,vier - to zee Pub and drink sum Bier


Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: GopherRock on October 22, 2024, 12:03:38 PM
Eins,zwei,drei,vier - to zee Pub and drink sum Bier



https://youtu.be/K_q6oLog5LU?si=A_vK8nrpyvONiYdb
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 24, 2024, 10:29:51 AM
Long way to go, but I think they actually have a legit coaching staff

https://twitter.com/JustinThind/status/1849435429008814554
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 24, 2024, 11:23:45 AM


MSU made an excellent hire.


Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 24, 2024, 11:26:30 AM
MSU made an excellent hire.
MSU is lucky their previous awful hire, which would have crippled the program for a decade, did the one thing he couldn't do and still get paid
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 24, 2024, 01:20:46 PM
But is he still getting paid? His ex or soon to be  is getting a nice chunk as she should for his pompous fabrication.Oh and she is  a lawyer.And because he broke contractual protocals I believe Tugger is s.o.l. but he's lawyering in an attempt to wring the school's wrists
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 24, 2024, 01:34:34 PM
But is he still getting paid? His ex or soon to be  is getting a nice chunk as she should for his pompous fabrication.Oh and she is  a lawyer.And because he broke contractual protocals I believe Tugger is s.o.l. but he's lawyering in an attempt to wring the school's wrists
They fired him for cause, and Mel is suing for the money.  Last I saw MSU filed to dismiss the suit.  I thought they'd settle, but it seems like MSU feels confident he won't get a dime
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 24, 2024, 02:06:31 PM
Still want to see Michigan kick Sparty's ass.  It's a tall order this year.   
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 24, 2024, 02:10:00 PM
Still want to see Michigan kick Sparty's ass.  It's a tall order this year. 
It's not a tall order, Michigan just isn't very tall either
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 24, 2024, 02:13:32 PM
They fired him for cause, and Mel is suing for the money.  Last I saw MSU filed to dismiss the suit.  I thought they'd settle, but it seems like MSU feels confident he won't get a dime
I really,honestly,wish & hope that sticks,the dim bulb  couldn't realize he was vasty over paid in the1st place.Then to hire a team sexual awareness advocate,while he flaunts that self retraint himself with the woman that is suppose to impliment the message. On the phone provided by the employer for program business in a room they paid for - and he didn't even get his turtle muddy.

Then to go on and share that little miscalculation with the USA Today, and can't believe they let that slip out Adds the cherry on top by trying to convice others he was the one beguiled and enticed. Have to search long and hard to find a bigger fool that hauled in that much cash only  to piss it all right away - MC hammer maybe. But hey at least he's 2-1 vs Bugger
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 25, 2024, 07:45:09 PM
https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1849953974503239809
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 25, 2024, 07:46:00 PM
There were rumors that Jack Tuttle has left the team.  No clue as to whether it was his choice, the university's choice, or what.  But this seems to confirm that
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 25, 2024, 08:07:32 PM
Don't get BTN hope my buddy's home this clash almost never dissapoints,almost.UofM may like to beat tOSU, but they absolutely HATE to lose the MSU game. Maybe Tuttle's trying to stay eligible for next year
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 25, 2024, 08:35:45 PM
I'm takin Sparty
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 25, 2024, 08:39:25 PM
Don't get BTN hope my buddy's home this clash almost never dissapoints,almost.UofM may like to beat tOSU, but they absolutely HATE to lose the MSU game. Maybe Tuttle's trying to stay eligible for next year
Tried putting this into Google Translate 
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 25, 2024, 08:54:13 PM
good luck to Google
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 26, 2024, 10:14:38 AM
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Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 26, 2024, 10:50:31 AM
There were rumors that Jack Tuttle has left the team.  No clue as to whether it was his choice, the university's choice, or what.  But this seems to confirm that
Jack Tuttle needs to go get his 40 year old ass a real job somewhere already and get real with himself. Glad he's finally growing up if you ask me. But yeah this just means Michigan is FUCKED in this game if Davis Warren is the starter. They kinda were anyway with Tuttle as well.

Idk wtf Sherrone is thinking here- he might as well give Jadyn Davis a shot. Kid was an early 5* who peaked in HS early and didn't really grow physically kind of stayed put at 6-foot-ish and 200 lbs-ish- but he was a very productive HS player who finished as a top 100 overall 'croot. Might as well give him a crack at it- have nothing to lose at this point.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 26, 2024, 12:30:46 PM
Will Johnson out.....game over.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 26, 2024, 02:47:59 PM
Will Johnson out.....game over.
Business decision?  You think hes done?
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 26, 2024, 02:50:44 PM
Business decision?  You think hes done?
I would be if it was me. Team already out of B1G CCG contention and they ain’t making the playoff they are done. Nothing to play for and nothing left for him to prove. He’s a top 10 pick in the upcoming draft at worst. Why risk injury at this point?

Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 26, 2024, 03:03:46 PM
https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1849999285628133608?t=l0lhfByHAbvgTyct1d43Mg&s=19
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 26, 2024, 03:04:58 PM
if a 27 year old is horny, he'll figure it out
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 26, 2024, 03:40:50 PM
Can someone help this #Michigan fan find a bar for his horny son?
Great parenting right there - on social media no less
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 27, 2024, 08:35:23 AM
No turnovers by Michigan.  A step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 27, 2024, 10:56:52 AM
Michigan 27, Michigan State 20
We were at a Halloween party, and I didn't see a snap, but it appears to be pretty much exactly what I figured
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on October 29, 2024, 12:12:52 PM
I would legit be cool with canceling this game as a protected rivalry. I think each B1G should only have 1 protected rivalry game, and for Michigan that's obviously Ohio State. I'd rather play Wisconsin one year, then Penn State next year, and so on and so forth until it gets back to Michigan State. Just really don't see the need to play this one every year now that there's like a billion teams in the league and a CCG. 
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: SFBadger96 on October 29, 2024, 12:18:38 PM
That makes sense for Michigan, but not for Michigan State. Michigan measures itself by Ohio State, but Michigan State measures itself by Michigan. Who else would be Michigan State's protected rival? I'm not a Michigan State fan, but from the outside I can't think of any team other than Michigan that MSU pines away to play. And when you factor in who the other teams have as natural rivals, who would lose their protected rivalry? The problem is that MSU fits into the middle stratum of the B1G teams, so it makes more sense to have a natural rival in that same range, but does MSU care about Illinois? Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa already have their triumverate--can't plug MSU in there. Purdue and Indiana seems straightforward. And Penn State is too good a team (and without a long-term rivalry) to pair with MSU. So who else for MSU?
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 29, 2024, 12:25:17 PM
There is no one else for Sparty and never will be.  Michigan is fine with playing Sparty every year and the Buckeyes on the last game of the season every year.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: ELA on October 29, 2024, 12:38:50 PM
I don't get why there have to be protected rivals at all anymore.  Penn State was protected, until Maryland and Rutgers insisted on protecting Penn State I guess
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 29, 2024, 01:03:56 PM
I don't think we need to worry about it. After all, 18 teams will become 20 or more soon enough, right? :57:

That said, 18 makes perfect sense mathematically for each team to have two protected rivals. Except that (as usual) the West Coast teams effed it up. Okay, and maybe Northwestern. 

Here's the best I can come up with:




But I don't see how else you can really do it. 
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 29, 2024, 01:18:58 PM
I don't think we need to worry about it. After all, 18 teams will become 20 or more soon enough, right? :57:

That said, 18 makes perfect sense mathematically for each team to have two protected rivals. Except that (as usual) the West Coast teams effed it up. Okay, and maybe Northwestern.

Here's the best I can come up with:


  • Maryland / Rutgers / PSU - Obvious geographically
  • OSU / UM / MSU - These three have natural rivalries, and when MSU is good they challenge OSU. Of course MSU is getting screwed here, but what can you do?
  • Purdue / IU / Illinois - Geographical consistency and Purdue already has a natural rivalry with both other schools, and IU sucks (except this year) so they don't have any rival other than Purdue.
  • UW / MN / IA - Already have their three-way rivalry
  • USC / UCLA / Oregon - USC looks at both of these schools as rivals already. Yeah, UCLA gets screwed like MSU did above, but what can you do?
  • NW / UNL / WAS - This is the problem. You break the NW/Illinois rivalry. You break the potentially budding UNL/Iowa rivalry. Washington probably should be Oregon's rival for geographic purposes but Oregon makes the most sense with USC and USC isn't dropping UCLA.


But I don't see how else you can really do it.
I do.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 29, 2024, 01:26:37 PM
Washington and Oregon are rivals
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on October 29, 2024, 01:30:15 PM
I don't think we need to worry about it. After all, 18 teams will become 20 or more soon enough, right? :57:
it’ll be 24 probably and within a couple years imo. 

SEC & B1G already been having closed door meetings about how they are going to swallow everyone else up and ditch the NCAA.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: MrNubbz on October 29, 2024, 03:12:53 PM
I would legit be cool with canceling this game as a protected rivalry. Just really don't see the need to play this one every year now 
(https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/uploads/monthly_2018_03/5979ba2a28ad856c5cedc3b3ce29069f--redd-foxx-funny-people.thumb.jpg.44265007e8122531b25726231e1eee60.jpg)
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2024, 04:04:11 PM
That said, 18 makes perfect sense mathematically for each team to have two protected rivals. 

But I don't see how else you can really do it.
18 makes perfect sense for 2 divisions
play each team in your division annually, with one protected rival from the other division or not

9 conference games
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 29, 2024, 04:18:12 PM
18 makes perfect sense for 2 divisions
play each team in your division annually, with one protected rival from the other division or not

9 conference games
Who gets stuck being in the Western division? I certainly would not want Wisconsin in that.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2024, 04:20:40 PM
northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Nebraska, Iowa or Minnesooota

don't worry, it wouldn't be Ohio St or Michigan

hell, send Rutgers and Maryland
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 29, 2024, 04:23:35 PM
northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Nebraska, Iowa or Minnesooota

don't worry, it wouldn't be Ohio St or Michigan

hell, send Rutgers and Maryland
Rutgers, Maryland and Penn State, plus two more. None of the original Western conference teams get moved.

That leaves Nebraska, Iowa, Indiana and MSU. Pick two.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2024, 04:42:56 PM
I'd pick Indiana and MSU but, someone else in charge might pick UNL and UI

I'd rather UNL went out west and played the same 8 teams each year than this jumbled nonsense
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 29, 2024, 04:43:57 PM
Iowa and IU were added to the conference in 1898.
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2024, 04:44:54 PM
bully for them

a wrestling school and a basketball school
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on October 29, 2024, 05:06:26 PM
bully for them

a wrestling school and a basketball school
and UNL a women's volleyball school :)
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2024, 05:12:46 PM
I figured that would get me in trouble

Hoosiers and Hawks have scoreboard on the Huskers
Title: Re: Michigan State (2-3, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on October 29, 2024, 05:17:04 PM
Wink Martindale = Don "Dr. Blitz" Brown. They are the same guy. Awesome front 4's with future NFL draft picks....still ADDICTED to blitzing. 

https://twitter.com/Misopogon/status/1851306526113235240