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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: LittlePig on October 05, 2024, 11:53:47 PM
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Chaos Saturday! Upsets galore. Down goes Bama, Tenn, Mich and USC. I love it.
This is also the week I can start to have fun with the transitive property in college football.
So here is who is better than who based on who has beat who so far
PSU > ILL > Neb > Rut > Wash > Mich > minn > USC > Wisc > Purdue.
Anyway, here are my power rankings for this week and who has beat who so far.
1. Ohio St. - beat MSU and Iowa
2. Ore - beat MSU and UCLA
3. Penn St - beat Ilinois and UCLA
4. Indiana - beat MD, NW, and UCLA
5. Iowa - lost to OSU and beat Minn
6. Illinois - Beat Neb in OT and lost to PSU
7. Nebraska - lost to ILL in OT, beat Rutgers and Pur
8. Rutgers - lost to Neb and beat Wash
9. Washington - Lost to Rut and beat Mich and NW
10. Michigan - lost to Wash, beat Minn and beat USC
11. Minnesota - lost to Iowa, lost to Mich and beat USC
12. USC - lost to Mich and Minn, beat Wisc
13. Wisconsin - lost to USC and blew out purdue
14. Mich St - lost to OSU and Ore, beat MD
15. MD - lost to Ind, lost to MSU
16. NW - lost to Ind and Wash
17. UCLA - lost to Ore, PSU and Ind
18. Purdue - lost to Neb and Wisc
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- OSU: I was impressed at them chewing up Iowa for over 200 yards on the ground. Times have changed.
- Oregon: Disposed of Sparty in more convincing fashion than OSU did. Should be a heck of a game Saturday.
- PSU: Fairly pedestrian effort against UCLA, but they are solid
- Indiana: Rolling up Northwestern to the tune of 41 points and over 500 yards is impressive.
- Washington: First time I really watched them and thought they were very impressive offensively. Their losses feel fluky, too
- Michigan: I dunno, not sure if this is too high. If they can get Tuttle up to speed and run a coherent offense, they will have a solid team
- USC: A couple tough road losses but a quality team
- Iowa: Got run over, but the schedule looks pretty forgiving
- Illinois: Solid if unspectacular
- Nebraska: That was a rough day for the quarterback
- Rutgers: Same
- Minnesota: Showed some spunk in getting a tough win
- MSU: Got their rough games out of the way, think they can bite some people
- Maryland: Man' it's tough keeping track of 18 teams
- Wisconsin: Blew out Purdue, which means they are a FBS football team
- UCLA: Maybe they are getting things figured out on defense
- Northwestern: Can't stop the Hoosier machine
- Purdue: I am struggling to understand how they are this bad
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1. Ohio State
2. Oregon
3. Penn State
4. Indiana
5. Washington
6. Illinois
7. Michigan
8. USC
9. Iowa
10. Wisconsin
11. Nebraska
12. Rutgers
13. Michigan State
14. Minnesota
15. Maryland
16. UCLA
17. Northwestern
18. Purdue
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1.Ohio State
2. Oregon
3. Penn State
4. Indiana
5. Washington
6. USC
7. Iowa
8. Illinois
9. Michigan
10. Nebraska
11. Minnesota
12. Rutgers
13. Wisconsin
14. Michigan State
15. Maryland
16. UCLA
17. Northwestern
18. Purdue
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Never saw the once tough Bruins porogram turn into doormats
They have never been that.
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my thought, Ed Zachery
powder puff blue unis?
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1) tOSU beat a solid but overmatched opponent,find out lots when they hit the road and go up in class in Autzen
2)PSU solid not spectacular win going out west to play what could be an angry Trojan Team
3)Ducks see Ohio State
4)Hoosiers 6-0 and getting traction QB Roarke is leading the Big in both Yards and ratings and the defense appears stout
5)Huskies move up after taking down Michigan
6)USC - lost 2 close ones and got another coming but at least at home
7)Illini - The Berts beat a 1-4 Kansas and headed to W.Layfayette for more of the same
8) M - slide down the rankings with QB woes
9)'Skers - beat an undefeated Schiano squad
10)Rutgers - 1st loss to a UNL team on the rise
To the rest - it's the BIG TEN come on up
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1) Ohio State: because I'm used to doing this.
2) Penn State: because they are a little closer to being a true Big Ten team than Oregon.
3) Oregon: wins--and they kicked the snot out of MSU--it wasn't as close as the score reflected, which wasn't close.
4) hmmmm: long-distance travel is hard, so who gets punished the least...
Washington: recency bias.
5) Michigan: best loss of the group.
6) USC: is Minnesota worse than Rutgers? Probably?
And then the also-rans...
7) Iowa: because I'm used to this.
8) Illinois: good win over Nebraska, played respectably in Happy Valley.
Now I'm really just guessing...
9) Nebraska: quality wins over Colorado* and Rutgers.
10) Rutgers: quality wins over Washington and Virginia Tech (whose record isn't great, but look pretty decent)
11) Minnesota: quality win against USC; sad loss to Michigan, questionable loss to UNC.
12) Wisconsin: yeah, I'm going with my gut and my bias here: HUGE game against Rutgers this weekend. If this team finishes 8-4, that will be a surprisingly good season.
13) but but but what about Indiana!?! PROVE IT. I'm guessing Indiana finsishes 2-4. Kudos if it does, and finishes 8-4, but that's a different 8-4 than the team I put ahead of it.
Bringing up the rear:
14) Sparty: because it beat Maryland on the road.
15) Northwestern: might not be that bad.
16) UCLA: same.
17) Maryland: same. Northwestern game Friday will be helpful to sort these things out.
18) Purdon't. Purdue is that bad.
*I visited Colorado with my son (senior in high school) this weekend. Beautiful campus. Their student body is irrationally excited about Deion Sanders. The number of times I heard, "now that we're winning again," was amusing for a team that went 4-8 last year and hasn't beaten anyone of note. They do have a soft schedule this season, so that will help (and is already helping).
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playing in the gutted Big 12 should help with wins and losses
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'Skers thinking of bolting?
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nope, the money is TOO good
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Whoor
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Scroll below to find Cornhuskers Wire’s Big Ten Power Rankings for Week 6 of the college football season .
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Purdue Boilermakers 1-4 (0-2)
Result: Loss at Wisconsin (6-52)
Next Week: at Illinois (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: Looking at the schedule for the rest of the season, it’s hard to see where any wins will come from. This team struggles in every aspect of the game, and you wonder if the Ryan Walters era will end at the conclusion of the season.
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UCLA Bruins 1-4 (0-3)
Result: Loss vs Penn State (11-27)
Next Week: vs. Minnesota (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: DeShaun Foster is in the midst of a massive rebuild in Los Angeles, and there is clearly a long way to go. They may not win a game until Nov. 30 when they play Fresno State at the Rose Bowl.
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Maryland Terrapins 3-2 (0-2)
Next Week: vs. Northwestern (Oct. 11)
Thoughts: The Terps have struggled early in the Big Ten season and hope to right the ship against Northwestern. After that, things get difficult with games against USC, Minnesota, and Oregon. They need to make next Friday’s game count.
15
Northwestern Wildcats 2-3 (0-2)
Result: Loss vs. Indiana (24-41)
Next Week: at Maryland (Oct. 11)
Thoughts: The David Braun era in Evanston has seen mixed results in year one. Inconsistency at the quarterback position has caused problems all season long. Going on the road this Friday will allow them to right the ship against Maryland.
14
Minnesota Golden Gophers 3-3 (1-2)
Result: Win vs. USC (24-17)
Next Week: at Maryland (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: Saturday’s win was a big victory for PJ Fleck’s program. He’ll have a chance to make it two in a row when they take on Maryland next weekend.
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Wisconsin Badgers 3-2 (1-1)
Result: Win vs. Purdue (52-6)
Next Week: at Rutgers (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: After a turbulent week that saw running back Chez Mellusi leave the team to focus on his health, the Badgers were able to take advantage of their matchup against Purdue. Now, they prepare for a round of games featuring Rutgers, Penn State, and Oregon. It won’t be easy, and if the losses pile up, the heat will only build toward Luke Fickell.
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Michigan State Spartans 3-3 (1-2)
Result: Loss at Oregon (10-31)
Thoughts: The Spartans have a brutal Big Ten schedule remaining, with games against Iowa, Michigan, Indiana, and Rutgers. They might not win another game until Nov. 22, when they host Purdue.
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Iowa Hawkeyes 3-2 (1-1)
Result: Loss at Ohio State (7-35)
Next Week: vs. Washington (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: The Hawkeyes’ offensive woes continue. Until that changes, they’ll continue to be a middle-of-the-pack Big Ten team led by stellar special teams and a stingy defense.
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Washington Huskies 4-2 (2-1)
Result: Win vs Michigan (27-17)
Next Week: at Iowa (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: Washington is still finding their footing under new head coach Jedd Fisch. Four of their final six games will see the Huskies play ranked teams, and will give an indication of where this program currently stands.
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Rutgers Scarlet Knights 4-1 (1-1)
Result: Loss at Nebraska (7-14)
Next Week: vs. Wisconsin (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: Rutgers has a great defense and an aggressive special teams unit, but without a passing game, it will be hard for the Scarlet Knights to move up in the rankings.
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Nebraska Cornhuskers 5-1 (2-1)
Result: Win vs. Rutgers (14-7)
Next Week: Bye
Thoughts: The Huskers roll into the bye week with a 5-1 record. One more win in the second half of the season and Nebraska will be bowl eligible for the first time since 2016.
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Michigan Wolverines 4-2 (2-1)
Result: Loss at Washington (17-27)
Next Week: at Illinois (Oct. 19)
Thoughts: Michigan struggled on the road during their loss to Washington on Saturday. A major showdown with Illinois is looming in two weeks and could determine the course of the Wolverines season.
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Illinois Fighting Illini 4-1 (1-1)
Next Week: vs. Purdue (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: The Fighting Illini have looked impressive in their first half of the college football season. The next big test for Illinois will be in two weeks when the Illini welcome Michigan to Memorial Stadium.
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Indiana Hoosiers 6-0 (3-0)
Result: Win at Indiana (41-24)
Next Week: Bye
Thoughts: The Hoosiers are 6-0 for the second time in program history (1967). They haven’t trailed for a single second this season, but the second half of the schedule is significantly tougher than the first, and Nebraska will start that second half on Oct. 19.
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USC Trojans
Result: Loss at Minnesota (17-24)
Next Week: vs. Penn State (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: Things will not get any easier for the Trojans next week as they host the Penn State Nittany Lions in a game that will have significant implications for the Big Ten Title and the College Football Playoff.
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Oregon Ducks 5-0 (2-0)
Result: Win vs. Michigan State (31-10)
Next Week: vs. Ohio State (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: One of the biggest games of the regular season is looming next Saturday when the Ducks host the Buckeyes in Eugene. While Oregon hasn’t looked as impressive as many had hoped in the preseason, a win on Saturday would change that tune.
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Penn State Nittany Lions 5-0 (2-0)
Result: Win vs. UCLA (27-11)
Next Week: at USC (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: Penn State is taking a trip through the old Pac 12 with a win over UCLA and a game against USC on the horizon; the Nittany Lions have a chance to make a major statement to the committee for the College Football Playoff.
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Ohio State Buckeyes 5-0 (2-0)
Result: Win vs. Iowa (7-35)
Next Week: at Oregon (Oct. 12)
Thoughts: The biggest game of the Big Ten regular season will take place next Saturday against the Oregon Ducks and give the Buckeyes a chance to place themselves in the driver’s seat for the College Football Playoff.
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props to Cohen for not simply following wins and loss records
Rutgers and Maryland were penalized
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Can't wait until we have a Big Ten top 25 poll
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I can't decide whether or not I'm a believer in Indiana.
They are 3-0/6-0 and their win over UCLA was IMPRESSIVE for multiple reasons:
- It was a West-coast road trip win and those are rare.
- I saw that someone here posted that B1G teams are 1-8 when travelling 2+ time zones for a game and IU's win over UCLA is the one exception.
- IU scored 42, gave up 13, and won by 29, for comparison:
- LSU scored 34, gave up 17, and won by 17 against UCLA at home.
- Oregon scored 34, gave up 13, and won by 21 against UCLA.
- Penn State scored 27, gave up 11, and won by 16 against UCLA at home.
So far, so good. My concern with the Hoosiers is that their three B1G opponents are a combined 0-7 in the league and 6-9 overall and their OOC opponents were awful as well:
- Western Illinois is 2-3 in FCS
- FIU is 2-3
- Charlotte is 3-3.
I see the game in Bloomington this weekend between IU and UNL as a 'put up or shut up' game. It should be a good barometer for both.
For Indiana:
If they beat Nebraska, they should also beat UWash at home next weekend and MSU in East Lansing on Nov 2. Additionally, PU is so bad that the season-ending Oaken Bucket game is as close to a lock as a rivalry game can get. That gets them to seven wins in the league and 10 overall with Michigan (in Bloomington on 11/9) and Ohio State (Columbus, 11/23) TBD.
If they lose then the UWash and MSU games look a lot less certain to me and I don't think they have much of a chance against the Wolverines nor the Buckeyes.
For Nebraska:
The Cornhuskers only trailed for a few possessions early in the IL game. They led 10-7, 17-10, and 24-17. They had a late FG attempt of <40 yards that would have won it, and yet they still lost. It just feels like this team has been discovering new ways to lose close games for the better part of a decade. Even with that they are 2-1/5-1 close to ranked (second among ORV). Also, both their OOC schedule and their B1G schedule so far have been tougher than IU's.
Why does it feel like UNL is going to more-or-less dominate this game and then find a creative way to lose late?
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unfortunately, next weekend
both have byes
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Last week in parentheses...
- OHIO STATE (1) - finally going to be tested
- PENN STATE (2) - how concerning is the offense?
- OREGON (3) - the well paid DL is looking the part
- INDIANA (7) - just keep winning
- ILLINOIS (8) - bye week
- NEBRASKA (10) - blackshirts back?
- WASHINGTON (11) - offense finally made an appearance
- USC (4) - only team to already make two of the cross country trips?
- MICHIGAN (5) - the lack of offense is starting to wear on the defense
- RUTGERS (6) - building the whole plane out of Kyle Monangai finally showed some leaks
- IOWA (9) - defense finally broke in the second half
- WISCONSIN (13) - I wondered all along why they brought TVD in, and I think his injury might save this season
- MINNESOTA (14) - won in spite of PJ
- MICHIGAN STATE (12) - getting a bye week after playing OSU and Oregon in a 6 day span is certainly welcomed
- MARYLAND (15) - bye week
- NORTHWESTERN (16) - didn't think Northwestern was capable of scoring 24, or giving up 41
- UCLA (17) - put up a better fight than I expected
- PURDUE (18) - have they even found the floor yet?
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Can't wait until we have a Big Ten top 25 poll
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University of Toronto from what I understand has a proficient squad that has a longing
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:cheer:
University of Toronto from what I understand has a proficient squad that has a longing
Friggin Canuck hosers play on a 110 yard field too
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Updated SOR/SP+ bracket
- #12 Boise State at #5 Georgia; winner vs. #1 Miami
- #11 Texas A&M at #6 PENN STATE; winner vs. #2 Texas
- #10 BYU at #7 OHIO STATE; winner vs. #3 OREGON
- #9 INDIANA at #8 Alabama; winner vs. #4 Iowa State
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Massey Composite Computer Rankings - 55 rankings (last week in parenthesis)
- OHIO STATE (3)
- Texas (2)
- OREGON (6)
- Alabama (1)
- PENN STATE (7)
- Georgia (5)
- Miami (8)
- Iowa State (10)
- Ole Miss (16)
- BYU (11)
- Texas A&M (-)
- INDIANA (18)
- Notre Dame (15)
- Kansas State (14)
- Tennessee (4)
- Boise State (21)
- SMU (22)
- Clemson (17)
- Oklahoma (20)
- Missouri (9)
- Pittsburgh (-)
- LSU (19)
- Texas Tech (-)
- MICHIGAN (12)
- WASHINGTON (-)
- 27. Nebraska (38)
- 28. USC (13)
- 30. Iowa (24)
- 31. Illinois (35)
- 33. Rutgers (29)
- 36. Maryland (41)
- 58. Minnesota (65)
- 59. Wisconsin (57)
- 64. Michigan State (58)
- 86. Northwestern (83)
- 90. UCLA (85)
- 112. Purdue (105)
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by: Steve Samra
big ten power rankings - On3.com
The latest Big Ten Power Rankings from On3, utilizing the On3 Massey Ratings, are in after Week 6 of the college football regular season.
The On3 Massey Ratings – which were officially used during the BCS era and have generated high school sports team rankings since 1995 – rank sports teams by analyzing game outcomes, strength of schedule, and margin of victory.
1. Ohio State (5-0)
It was a slow start for Ohio State in Week 6, as they only led Iowa by seven at halftime. However, the Buckeyes put a beating on the Hawkeyes in the second half, scoring 21 in the third quarter on their way to a 35-7 win in Columbus.
If you’ve been one of the college football fans complaining about the quality of Ohio State’s opponents in 2024, that’ll all change in Week 7. The Buckeyes will travel to Eugene, where they’ll take on the Oregon Ducks in the weekend’s top attraction.
2. Oregon (5-0)
Oregon got the week started with a bang, as the Ducks played Friday evening against Michigan State. The Spartans and former Oregon State coach Jonathan Smith were amped to return to Eugene, but it wasn’t meant to be, as Oregon won by 21.
Moving ahead to Week 7, Oregon will take center stage in the college football world, as the Ducks will welcome Ohio State to Eugene. It’s the Big Ten clash with the most juice so far this season, and maybe for the entirety of 2024 considering the stature of these two teams. If Oregon can get the win, there’s no telling how high the Ducks can fly.
3. Penn State (5-0)
Penn State remained undefeated with a dominant win over UCLA in Week 6. The Nittany Lions are 5-0 and looking like a true contender inside the conference, with quarterback Drew Allar playing some efficient football at the moment.
Now, Penn State will look ahead to a trip to Los Angeles, where they’ll take on USC in the first conference clash between the two legendary programs. The Trojans are coming off a brutal loss to Minnesota, so they’ll be motivated to bounce back.
4. Michigan (4-2)
Michigan suffered their second loss of the season to Washington in Week 6. The Wolverines are now 4-2 after falling by ten to the Huskies, as they blew a three-point lead in the fourth quarter.
After an uneven start to the season, Michigan will enjoy a bye week in Week 7. The Wolverines will look to bounce back in Week 8, as they travel to take on the surprising Illinois Fighting Illini, in what should be a tough showdown.
5. Indiana (6-0)
The conference’s biggest surprise simply continues to win week-in and week-out. The Indiana Hoosiers went to Evanston and came out undefeated, as they defeated Northwestern by 17 in Week 6.
As they continue to move up the rankings, Indiana will have to take a week off from putting a beating on their opponent. The Hoosiers will enjoy their bye week in Week 7, and get back after it with a home clash against Nebraska in Week 8.
6. USC (3-2)
When USC joined the Big Ten, they certainly didn’t expect to be losing to teams like Minnesota, but the Trojans couldn’t overcome the Golden Gophers in their trip to Minneapolis over the weekend. They were beaten by a last minute touchdown, and they now have two losses in 2024.
Looking ahead to Week 7, it’ll be about bouncing back for USC, but the schedule does them no favors. Yes, a return to Los Angeles will be nice, but welcoming the undefeated Penn State Nittany Lions to town will be a tall task for Miller Moss and company.
7. Washington (4-2)
Washington was able to secure their biggest win since joining the Big Ten and some revenge for last season’s national title game, as the Huskies and Jedd Fisch celebrated a victory in Seattle over the Michigan Wolverines in Week 6.
Sitting at 4-2 on the season, Washington is looking to get on a bit of a roll here in 2024, and next on the docket is Iowa. The Hawkeyes are coming off a tough loss to Ohio State, so the Huskies will be hoping to bring the pain to Kirk Ferentz’s squad.
8. Iowa (3-2)
Iowa lost their second game of the season in Week 6. After an early season disappointment against Iowa State, the Hawkeyes hoped they could right their transgressions with a huge win against Ohio State, but it wasn’t meant to be in Week 6.
Perhaps Iowa can get back on track in Week 7. The Hawkeyes will welcome Washington to Kinnick Stadium for what should be a fascinating game between two Big Ten squads looking to avoid a third loss before Halloween.
9. Illinois (4-1)
Illinois is in the midst of a blistering start to the season, even though they fell to Penn State in Week 5. The Fighting Illini had some time to regroup in Week 6 though, enjoying a bye week this past Saturday.
After having a week to harp on their loss to the Nittany Lions, Illinois will get back to work against Purdue this weekend. The Boilermakers are reeling at 1-4, and the Fighting Illini will be hoping to avoid becoming a statement win for their Big Ten rival who’s been stuck in the doldrums.
10. Rutgers (4-1)
Rutgers suffered their first loss of the season in Lincoln on Saturday, as the Scarlet Knights fell to Nebraska. The Cornhuskers raced out to a 14-0 halftime lead, and Greg Schiano couldn’t will his team’s offense to score enough to win, as they only mustered one touchdown on the afternoon.
Perhaps a return to Piscataway and SHI Stadium will work wonders for Rutgers in Week 7. Wisconsin and Luke Fickell will be in town for the Scarlet Knight as they look for their fifth win of the season.
Big Ten Power Rankings: 11-16
11. Nebraska (5-1)
12. Wisconsin (3-2)
13. Minnesota (3-3)
14. Maryland (3-2)
15. Michigan State (3-3)
16. UCLA (1-4)
17. Northwestern (2-3)
18. Purdue (1-4)