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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Mdot21 on September 30, 2024, 12:02:16 AM
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7:30 PM kickoff time.
Washington is a 1.5 point home favorite coming off a road loss to Rutgers. O/U is set at 40.5.
Michigan is 10-5 all-time vs Washington, with three wins in a row the latest obviously being the CFP National Title game. However, Michigan often struggles on their out west cross country road trips, and the last time they played at Washington was a 23-18 loss just 3 days prior to 9/11 on September 8th, 2001.
Night game (sort of) on the road, not really loving it. I feel a lot better about the game if edge defender Josiah Stewart is full-go and CB Will Johnson is as well- both sat out vs Minnesota.
If the OC Kirk Campbell isn't feeding Kalel Mullings like 30+ carries, Orji like 10-15 carries, Colston Loveland 8-10 pass targets, and Donovan Edwards like 10 carries as a change of pace/3rd down back and another 5-10 pass targets in the slot, on a screen, or motioned out wide then I'll be pretty pissed.
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Put Edwards at wide out tell Orji to heave the damn thing and hand Mullings the rock
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I don't think Washington is good. TTUN can overcome.
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I don't think Washington is good. TTUN can overcome.
well they were getting pushed around by Rutgers in the 1st half but they did come roaring back and put up 500 yards of offense….but they only got 18 points off those 500 yards. they might be better than anyone thinks? Will Rogers has played well.
Michigan needs to just run the shit out of the football and get Edwards involved in the pass game. And they need to tighten up their 2nd half defense. 3 weeks in a row now their defense just turned into mush in the 4th QTR. Wink is playing too many backups, blitzing too much and playing too much man imo. He needs to get his shit together and fast.
road game a million miles away on the other coast does concern me a bit. Michigan historically sucks ass in those type of games.
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https://twitter.com/BarstoolUofM/status/1840129142693765383
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Old Harbaugh OC vs. old Harbaugh OC.
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Not sure if he's a legit head coach yet, but Jedd Fisch for sure is a LEGIT OC/play caller and QB guy. JJ would've been even better if Jedd Fisch was the one coaching him at Michigan and not clowns like Matt Weiss and Kirk Campbell.
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This has to be the least hyped national championship rematch of all time
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Old Harbaugh OC vs. old Harbaugh OC.
What are Tim Drevno and Pep Hamilton up to these days?
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This has to be the least hyped national championship rematch of all time
Didn't even think of that and both HC's bolt,nothings sacred
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JJ would've been even better if Jedd Fisch was the one coaching him at Michigan and not clowns like Matt Weiss and Kirk Campbell.
lulz MW was JJs QB coach in 21-22 seasons along with co-offensive coordinator in'22 - he didn't suck he was a rising star in the ranks and evidently a creep. He improved every position he coached at Baltimore - that is why Jeems brother recommended him. Fisch's QBs or their performance couldn't sniff JJs jock - and that's coming from a Buckeye
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lulz MW was JJs QB coach in 21-22 seasons along with co-offensive coordinator in'22 - he didn't suck he was a rising star in the ranks and evidently a creep. He improved every position he coached at Baltimore - that is why Jeems brother recommended him. Fisch's QBs or their performance couldn't sniff JJs jock - and that's coming from a Buckeye
Idk man. Never impressed with any of Jeem’s OC/QB coaches other than Jedd Fisch. Jedd took Jake Rudock- an Iowa cast off that Kirk Ferentz didn’t want and turned him into the schools all-time single season passing yards record holder and an NFL draft pick.
JJ was going to be good on any competent team imo. Despite what Buckeye fans would have you believe, JJ was supremely talented. He was a top 10 NFL draft pick and a 5* HS ‘croot and starting QB on a HS squad at IMG that has P4 level players everywhere on the roster even at backup QB for a reason. Big time arm talent and much better athlete than people even realize in a 6’3 frame.
Someone teaching him how to clean up his footwork and read coverages and process faster/better would’ve went a long way. Very glad Ryan Day bungled that one and took Honda McCord.
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Jake Rudock - not much in the NFL
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He didn't groom JJ that's not a knock on Fisch,Herman was an outstanding OC.And whom w/o tOSU would have never won the NC in'14 if he had bolted to Houston right after the season. He was the perfect mentor for Cardale who had an incredible 3 game run. Who evidently went to strip joints(Herman) with Zack Smith if he can be believed. Weiss did the same for JJ - grooming not strip joints i wouldn't invite either coach to dinner
And at that time DAY thought McCord was the better option,Day screwed up IMO when he used Devin Brown as an RB on the goal line vs PSU getting him hurt last year. He was the only viable back up who was neck and neck with McCord until camp broke I still don't mind him getting snaps there is no quit or fear in the kid
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Jake Rudock - not much in the NFL
Ok and? Most guys don’t do much in the NFL. The average NFL career is 3 years.
Does he become the schools single season passing yards record holder and even get a shot and get drafted by the NFL if not for Jedd Fisch? I doubt it. Captain Kirk was ready to throw him in the trash can at Iowa.
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Jedd Fisch did A LOT more with the kid than Kirk and/or a couple NFL coaches
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Idk man. Never impressed with any of Jeem’s OC/QB coaches other than Jedd Fisch. Jedd took Jake Rudock- an Iowa cast off that Kirk Ferentz didn’t want and turned him into the schools all-time single season passing yards record holder and an NFL draft pick.
I actually completely agree with this. Who was remotely good? Drevno? Hamilton? Gattis? I think Ben McDaniels is a pretty solid coach, but Harbaugh just never got out of the way with QB coaching/development and he had many years in that area, he was clearly a TERRIBLE judge of talent. Clearly starting the wrong qb when every observer with a pulse could see it was the wrong move.
I think Harbaugh should be grateful he had Andrew Luck, Alex Smith & JJ in his life. He either pushes the right buttons with the right guys or he's just been truly blessed to be the coach of incredibly elite QB talent.
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I can see Michigan's bad habits turning into a loss this weekend @ Washington. The Wolverines don't put away teams, and not only does Washington usually take advantage of Eastern teams playing in Seattle, but specifically Michigan has a well-documented history (https://www.si.com/college/michigan/football/michigan-wolverines-west-coast-troubles-before-a-road-test-at-washington-huskies) of losing road trips out West.
And given the last half of Washington's difficult schedule, the pressure will be on the Huskies to perform. Four ranked teams and @Iowa (9AM PST) with only UCLA a likely win.
I agree with MDot - run the ball, Michigan. And on defense don't let RB Coleman set the tempo.
Washington 24 Michigan 14
(https://i.imgur.com/Map5kTR.png)
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This has Michigan loss written all over it.
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Last time Michigan went to Seattle, it was a defensive slug fest. Washington won 23-18, despite not scoring an offensive point, and giving up a safety. Michigan led 12-6 early 4th, kicking a FG to go up 9. 2 scores the way the offenses were going seemed insurmountable. Instead Washington blocked the kick and returned it for a TD. Then on Michigan's very next play John Navarre threw a pick 6.
I watched it at my buddy's house (I was a senior in HS), and there was a short rain storm during the game, and I had left the sun roof open on my dads car. Awful ,awful afternoon
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Well you got your defense and that narrative is interesting and comical - could use more games just like it
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This has Michigan loss written all over it.
agreed. see the Vegas line.
Michigan has played really good in the first half and then freaking FUGLY in the second half three straight weeks now. Unfortunately starting to think this is more than a trend. Points to bad QB play (obviously), perhaps immature team, poor coaching & bad half-time adjustments imo.
Add that all ontop of cross country 5,000+ mile trip game in Seattle vs a hostile crowd and not loving Michigan chances.
I think it's just going to be an ugly slop fest and Washington will pull out a W in a whacky fashion. Maybe huge special teams or defensive score- think it'll just be an ugly slop fest that Michigan bungles on the road.
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I can see Michigan's bad habits turning into a loss this weekend @ Washington. The Wolverines don't put away teams, and not only does Washington usually take advantage of Eastern teams playing in Seattle, but specifically Michigan has a well-documented history (https://www.si.com/college/michigan/football/michigan-wolverines-west-coast-troubles-before-a-road-test-at-washington-huskies) of losing road trips out West.
And given the last half of Washington's difficult schedule, the pressure will be on the Huskies to perform. Four ranked teams and @Iowa (9AM PST) with only UCLA a likely win.
I agree with MDot - run the ball, Michigan. And on defense don't let RB Coleman set the tempo.
Washington 24 Michigan 14
(https://i.imgur.com/Map5kTR.png)
looking at that schedule, that is a good point.
If Washington loses this game at home, the only game I think I'd give them a shot to win out the rest of those is probably UCLA. If they lose to Michigan at home they could be looking at 1-6 or 0-7 in this stretch. It's basically a gotta have it, must win for them.
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poor coaching & bad half-time adjustments imo.
No, I think it's primarily this. When the second half is always worse than the first, I believe that always points to coaching
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No, I think it's primarily this. When the second half is always worse than the first, I believe that always points to coaching
Sherrone definitely had some HEAD scratching moments.
The end of the first half- not subbing and forcing a clock run off or not calling a TO to at least bitch to the refs and try to get a booth review on a hail mary pass that wasn't a completion- ball hit the ground....
And then late in the 2nd half his clock management was atrocious. Orji kept snapping the ball with 10-20 seconds left and then they threw a pass on the last series instead of milk clock. Moore could've just milked clock and Minnesota wouldn't have had any time left to try and make a desperate comeback attempt. They left like an extra minute on the clock that shouldn't have been there.
rookie head coach mistakes imo.
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gonna need them both and playing their A games if Michigan has any shot at the road upset...
https://twitter.com/ByAZuniga/status/1840786197502681421
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Hah, most grad assistants know to milk the clock. You and I do.
That's not a rookie thing.
It's plain stupid
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Last time Michigan went to Seattle, it was a defensive slug fest. Washington won 23-18, despite not scoring an offensive point, and giving up a safety. Michigan led 12-6 early 4th, kicking a FG to go up 9. 2 scores the way the offenses were going seemed insurmountable. Instead Washington blocked the kick and returned it for a TD. Then on Michigan's very next play John Navarre threw a pick 6.
I watched it at my buddy's house (I was a senior in HS), and there was a short rain storm during the game, and I had left the sun roof open on my dads car. Awful ,awful afternoon
haha.. i'm srue that was fun to explain to your dad.
Can we avoid John Navarre talk.. Most overrated Michigan QB and a guy who should never have been playing. How does a guy with Braylon, Avant and Breaston as his receiving corp and Chris Perry in the backfield have a completion percentage in the mid 50's yet still hold the record for most attempts in a season. In my book, he was the beginning of the downfall of Michigan football.
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Michigan has a well-documented history (https://www.si.com/college/michigan/football/michigan-wolverines-west-coast-troubles-before-a-road-test-at-washington-huskies) of losing road trips out West.
@Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) and others mentioned the same thing. First I want to point out that this is FAR from a "Michigan" thing. All of our teams have trouble with West Coast games and in this new era having four league members out there it will be interesting to see how that plays out.
Secondly, the article that @CatsbyAZ (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1532) linked here lists Michigan's last four regular season road games out West and notes that they are 1-4 in those but it is actually worse than that because Michigan was the MUCH better team in most of those games, from the article:
- 1983 Washington 25, Michigan 24: In their other 10 regular season games Michigan went 9-1 with a loss to league champion Illinois, Washington went 7-3 including a loss to a sub .500 LSU team.
- 1989 Michigan 24, UCLA 23: Here is the win but note that Michigan's only losses that year were to ND (finished 12-1) and USC in the RB. This was a Michigan team that went undefeated in the league playing a UCLA team that finished 3-7-1. Just looking at the final records, the team that finished 10-2 should have clobbered the team that finished 3-7-1 but Michigan only won by a single point.
- 2000 UCLA 23, Michigan 20: This was a Michigan team that went 9-2 in their other 11 games including a win over Auburn in the Citrus Bowl playing against a UCLA team that went 5-6 in their other 11 games including a loss to Wisconsin (whom Michigan beat) in the Sun Bowl.
- 2001 Washington 23, Michigan 18: Both teams finished 8-4 with comparable bowl losses so this feels like a more even match-up.
- 2003 Oregon 31, Michigan 27: This was a Michigan team that went 10-1 in their other regular season games and lost the Rose Bowl to one of Pete Carroll's juggernauts against an Oregon team that lost four regular season games and lost the Sun Bowl to a Minnesota team that Michigan defeated.
Note that this post is NOT to dump on Michigan. Ohio State's history in west coast games is similar and AFAIK most of the rest of the traditional Big Ten / Big11Ten / B1G teams are in the same boat.
FWIW, tOSU games out West in the same 1983-2023 timeframe:
- 2013 Ohio State 52, California 34: This may look impressive at first glance but it isn't. California went 1-11 that year with their only win coming against FCS Portland State and the 34 points that they scored against tOSU was their second best on the year with only Portland State allowing more. This Ohio State team started the year 12-0 and this game shouldn't have been anywhere near this close.
- 2008 USC 35, Ohio State 3: This was another of PC's juggernauts so losing to them wasn't all that bad but getting run off the field was. This Ohio State team went 10-1 in their other regular season games with a TD loss to a very good PSU team and lost a squeaker in the FiestaBowl to a VERY good Texas team.
- 2007 Ohio State 33, Washington 14: Much like the 2013 win over Cal this isn't as impressive as it sounds. Ohio State went 11-2 including an appearance in the BCSNCG and their only losses were to League Champ Illinois and National Champ LSU. Washington went 4-9.
- 2001 UCLA 13, Ohio State 6: Both teams finished the regular season 7-4 so this feels like a reasonably even match-up.
- 2000 Arizona 27, Ohio State 17: Ohio State was only 8-4 in 2000 but Arizona was worse, 5-6.
- 1994 Washington 25, Ohio State 16: Ohio State went 9-4 that year including a close bowl loss to an Alabama team that was one point in the SECCG from being undefeated. Washington went 7-4 and watched the bowls on TV.
- 1989 USC 42, Ohio State 3: USC was pretty good that year, 9-2-1 with a RoseBowl win but Ohio State was decent at 8-4. Losing wasn't terrible but getting run off the field was.
- 1986 Washington 40, Ohio State 7: Ugh, another ugly blowout and once again it was a game that should have been at least competitive. Ohio State finished 10-3, Washington finished 8-3-1.
If I'm counting right: In the last 41 seasons Ohio State and Michigan are a combined 3-10 with all three wins with the three winners being teams that finished with double-digit wins and beat teams that finished below .500.
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MSU last won a road game against a traditional Pac 10 team against Cal in 1957.
They won a couple of traditional Rose Bowls, and beat Washington State in a Holiday Bowl. But in terms of true road games, they have been 0-13 since 1957
Lost to Arizona State in 1986 and 2018; lost to Cal in 2008; lost to Stanford in 1962; lost to UCLA in 1974; lost to USC in 1963, 1972 and 1978; lost to Oregon in 1980, 1998 and 2014; lost to Washington in 1970 and 2022.
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That said...
Michigan 23, Washington 21
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Washington lost to Wazzu. I get it, that's a rivalry game, but still...
Michigan 27, Washington 20
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MSU last won a road game against a traditional Pac 10 team against Cal in 1957.
They won a couple of traditional Rose Bowls, and beat Washington State in a Holiday Bowl. But in terms of true road games, they have been 0-13 since 1957
Lost to Arizona State in 1986 and 2018; lost to Cal in 2008; lost to Stanford in 1962; lost to UCLA in 1974; lost to USC in 1963, 1972 and 1978; lost to Oregon in 1980, 1998 and 2014; lost to Washington in 1970 and 2022.
Yikes, so it seems like it is an all-of-us problem but the odd and unexpected exception appears to be Indiana. Their recent road games against teams of the former Pac12:
- 2024 Indiana 42, UCLA 13
- 2004 Indiana 30, Oregon 24: Oregon only went 5-6 but Indiana was worse at 3-8.
- 2003 Washington 38, Indiana 13: UDub went 6-6, IU went 2-10.
- 2002 Utah 40, Indiana 13: Utah was then in the Mountain West.
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First I want to point out that this is FAR from a "Michigan" thing. All of our teams have trouble with West Coast games and in this new era having four league members out there it will be interesting to see how that plays out.
It's going to be interesting going forward. I would suspect that a lot of the poor performance by B1G teams heading west for regular season road matchups was partially due to the rarity of ever having to do it.
Now going forward it will likely be an annual thing or close to it. Purdue has a regular season West Coast game every year from 2024-2027, albeit this year it was only an OOC game against OrSU.
As teams get used to it, will they start getting better at it?
And if not, does that mean that our West Coast teams will always be at a natural disadvantage in conference games having to fly 2-3 time zones East multiple times per year while the East Coast / Midwest teams only have to fly 2-3 time zones West maybe once per year?
It'll be interesting to look back at this a couple seasons from now.
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probably should've offered the DC the job and not the OC...
https://twitter.com/UMGoBlog/status/1841262192953278700
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Yikes, so it seems like it is an all-of-us problem but the odd and unexpected exception appears to be Indiana. Their recent road games against teams of the former Pac12:
nebraska's record on the west coast isn't great
much, much better vs the SEC SEC SEC
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It's going to be interesting going forward. I would suspect that a lot of the poor performance by B1G teams heading west for regular season road matchups was partially due to the rarity of ever having to do it.
Now going forward it will likely be an annual thing or close to it. Purdue has a regular season West Coast game every year from 2024-2027, albeit this year it was only an OOC game against OrSU.
As teams get used to it, will they start getting better at it?
And if not, does that mean that our West Coast teams will always be at a natural disadvantage in conference games having to fly 2-3 time zones East multiple times per year while the East Coast / Midwest teams only have to fly 2-3 time zones West maybe once per year?
It'll be interesting to look back at this a couple seasons from now.
We did an analysis of HFA a while back and some of the results were expected while some were not, from what I recall:
- We looked at conference games only because some of the difference in OOC games is due to playing cupcake buy games exclusively at home.
- HFA is definitely real. Every single team had a better league record at home than on the road.
- The teams with the biggest differential were not the ones that we think of as having the loudest stadiums. Instead the teams with the biggest differential tended to be teams that are typically middling in the league.
I didn't expect this result but I think it makes sense. Teams at the top of the league probably only typically play maybe two or three games a year in which HFA might plausibly determine the outcome. Ie, it only likely matters against the other contenders, the rest they should beat regardless of location.
At the opposite end of the spectrum teams at the bottom of the league pprobably only play two or three games a year in which HFA might plausibly determine the outcome. Ie, it only matters against the other bottom-feeders, the rest they will lose to regardless of location.
HFA makes the biggest difference for a middling team because they are typically good enough to beat most of their opponents at home but still suspect enough to lose to most of their opponents on the road.
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probably should've offered the DC the job and not the OC...
https://twitter.com/UMGoBlog/status/1841262192953278700
While most people want to go down the path about talking about an assistant that dealt with signs, the closer reality is that Michigan had one of the best coaches out there as their DC. This wasn't a one-off and neither is his success in LA. Look at what he did at Georgia St, then the Ravens? You think Jim's brother set him up for failure with the recommendation? Minter is top tier defensive coach. By the end of the season, he will be talked about as a head coach candidate in the NFL. The guy has been growing into a force for the last half decade.
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While most people want to go down the path about talking about an assistant that dealt with signs, the closer reality is that Michigan had one of the best coaches out there as their DC. This wasn't a one-off and neither is his success in LA. Look at what he did at Georgia St, then the Ravens? You think Jim's brother set him up for failure with the recommendation? Minter is top tier defensive coach. By the end of the season, he will be talked about as a head coach candidate in the NFL. The guy has been growing into a force for the last half decade.
only people that talk about BuTsIgNz in relation to Jesse Minter are OSU fans and retards. So...same thing. :)
Jesse Minter has been a rising star in the coaching ranks, he's basically just a better version of Jeem's previous Michigan DC Mike MacDonald- who is now an NFL head coach. Jesse Minter will be an NFL head coach within 3 years. He's that good. #BuTsIgNZzzzzz!
Jeem finally getting a legit QB in JJ (top 10 NFL draft pick, hello), Michigan's insane coaching staffs on defense, + Sherrone Moore fixing the OL and bringing it back to the Michigan standard of old that it used to be at when Michigan had guys like Steve Hutchinson, Jon Jansen, Jake Long, and David Baas and you just expected Michigan to have great OL every year is what put them over the top. Urban leaving also helped imo. Day ain't quite Urban when it comes to running the football and playing defense. Urbz always elite in those two areas- and THE GAME usually comes down to that- who can run the ball and who can stop the run and play defense. Winner of THE GAME historically has been that- who runs the ball better and who stops the run- win those two battles you win THE GAME 90%+ of the time.
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Michigan is a team that's going to have some losses. If they can't get rid of this rancid Minnesota team they're in for fights at the Fighting Berts, Oregon, at Indiana, and then at Columbus.
As for Minnesota's history on the West Coast, the sample size is very small in my lifetime.
2019: W OT 38-35 @ Fresno State
2017: W 48-14 @ Oregon State
2012: W 3OT 30-27 @ UNLV
2011: L 17-19 @ USC
2006: L 16-42 @ Cal
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Urban leaving also helped imo. Day ain't quite Urban when it comes to running the football and playing defense. Urbz always elite in those two areas- and THE GAME usually comes down to that- who can run the ball and who can stop the run and play defense. Winner of THE GAME historically has been that- who runs the ball better and who stops the run- win those two battles you win THE GAME 90%+ of the time.
Wow that's actually a great point. The other part that Urban was a legend, which I'm not saying is a problem for OSU now because it's clearly not, but Urban was as good as it gets at recruiting and recognizing talent that others may not see the ceiling. It's one thing to do it at OSU and Florida, but the dude pulled in Josh Harris and Cole Magner at Bowling Green who were unknown recruits to the rest of the world and became absolute stars at a small MAC school.
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Michigan is a team that's going to have some losses. If they can't get rid of this rancid Minnesota team they're in for fights at the Fighting Berts, Oregon, at Indiana, and then at Columbus.
Michigan’s offense is so one dimensional and it’s QB’s are so bad that they are flat out just going to be in dog fights all season long no matter who they play. No room for error and they’ll live on the razors edge all season which is why they’ll lose 3-4 more games imo.
Michigan was very one dimensional in 2021 but the OL was significantly better than it is right now and at least Cade McNamara could give you something in the passing game- just enough to keep other defenses honest. Right now their OL is a work in progress and they are so bad at QB it’s a joke.
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Wow that's actually a great point. The other part that Urban was a legend, which I'm not saying is a problem for OSU now because it's clearly not, but Urban was as good as it gets at recruiting and recognizing talent that others may not see the ceiling. It's one thing to do it at OSU and Florida, but the dude pulled in Josh Harris and Cole Magner at Bowling Green who were unknown recruits to the rest of the world and became absolute stars at a small MAC school.
Urbz ran the spread offense but his teams were always power rushing attacks with elite front 7 and backends on defense since his days at Florida. Urbz great teams were never finesse, they whooped dudes at the LoS and ran the football. They’ve lost that a little bit with Ryan Day imo. They transformed into a finesse pass happy attack on offense + no more Chase Young’s or Bosa bros walking through those doors.
Day is trying to pivot right now by firing everyone on his offensive staff and making a last ditch effort to get Chip Kelly to OC and an every down back like Judkins in the portal to pivot to a run first defensive team.
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Urbz ran the spread offense but his teams were always power rushing attacks with elite front 7 and backends on defense since his days at Florida. Urbz great teams were never finesse, they whooped dudes at the LoS and ran the football. They’ve lost that a little bit with Ryan Day imo. They transformed into a finesse pass happy attack on offense + no more Chase Young’s or Bosa bros walking through those doors.
Day is trying to pivot right now by firing everyone on his offensive staff and making a last ditch effort to get Chip Kelly to OC and an every down back like Judkins in the portal to pivot to a run first defensive team.
Yup go back and look a the D-Lines in'15/'16/'17/even '18 were literally rotating 6-7-8 guys(depending on the year) and the LB play was better.Damn shame URBZ didn't keep hungry like St Nick did who knew when to pull a QB and insert plan "B". It's definitely time to put Larry Johnson out to pasture,kids coming up now aren't familar with him like yrs back
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Not sure why the OSU talk in the Michigan thread.
Perception is interesting.
So Day was in charge of offense for OSU in 16 17 and 18. I will let you go look up the stats. 😳
Head coach in 19- brought in his guy to run defense and finished top 2 in the country. Of course- that guy left to be a head coach and it was tough to replace him.
Not sure that he is trying to “ pivot” anything. More like STILL trying to remain truly balanced. Hard to tell much yet this year with the soft early schedule but so far, 51% run, 49% pass.
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Jyaire has really started rounding into form and looks like a real big-time player as a RS Frosh.
Michigan has two NFL draft picks starting CB's right now. Best starting CB duo they've had since Marlin Jackson and Leon Hall imo.
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1841555499960963106
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I miss Jesse Minter....:'(
https://twitter.com/Club_SGT/status/1841487621153017973
https://twitter.com/StevenIHaglund/status/1841492073415127084
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Not sure if Tuttle is the answer going forward but that drive at the start of the 3rd quarter was easily Michigan’s best of the year.
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Not sure if Tuttle is the answer going forward but that drive at the start of the 3rd quarter was easily Michigan’s best of the year.
Tuttle looks like an options a million times better that made some key mistakes in judgment from lack of reps and playing time. This offense isn’t built for Orji and his passing ability worse than expected. Tuttle should be QB1 the rest of the season.
now the biggest problem - what in the world is going on in the secondary?
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Think I found Mdot over on the MGOBOARD
Michfan777October 5th, 2024 at 10:49 PM
Lmao these fuckers can’t even get a play off before the clock expired and send players in motion.
Fire this whole fucking staff of incompetent ~unacceptable vulgar term for part of female anatomy~s.
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Tuttle looks like an options a million times better that made some key mistakes in judgment from lack of reps and playing time. This offense isn’t built for Orji and his passing ability worse than expected. Tuttle should be QB1 the rest of the season.
now the biggest problem - what in the world is going on in the secondary?
they went from Steve Clinkscale - maybe the best secondary coach in the business - to some clown who wears a bow-tie named LaMar Morgan- and they went from Jesse Minter - one of top DC's in the NFL right now- to an old washed up fat fuck that got run out of the NFL because he was so awful in Wink Martindale. They both have to go before the season is over. If I'm Sherrone I'm firing both of those guys right now. Oh and he should also fire Brian Jean-Mary, who was at Michigan before and was....a shit LB coach in his first stint at Michigan because: he's a shit LB coach.
Idk why Sherrone didn't just offer Steve Clinkscale a shot at DC to keep him on staff. Guy was the best DB coach Michigan has ever had.
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When Jack Tuttle started his college career, Aidan Chiles was 12 years old.
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When Jack Turtle started his college career, Aidan Chiles was 12 years old.
7 years of college down the drain.
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Some players don't come to play school. How long was Stetson a student? No degree?