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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: MaximumSam on September 24, 2024, 12:04:48 PM
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Buckeyes go on the road in a night game that will obviously be the premiere matchup of the night.
OSU hasn't played anybody, and the Spartans do have an improved defense that has kept them in games, ranking 22nd on SP+. Their offense has no been improved (114th). However, they do have a young quarterback who can rifle balls, so if he stays away from turnovers, we could have something here.
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Buckeyes go on the road in a night game that will obviously be the premiere matchup of the night.
OSU hasn't played anybody, and the Spartans do have an improved defense that has kept them in games, ranking 22nd on SP+. Their offense has no been improved (114th). However, they do have a young quarterback who can rifle balls, so if he stays away from turnovers, we could have something here.
That QB should’ve thrown 6 INT’s vs BC. He’s got obvious talent that flashes off screen at times but he’s been struggling. I was honestly expecting more from him. He probably isn’t quite ready enough to play- he’s still 18 year old RS Fr., and that problem is intensified by Sparty having so many injuries at WR and an OL that is really struggling.
Ohio State rolls in this one.
There will be blood.
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O - H!
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The one thing the Bucks haven't really done well on offense is attack downfield. They've had opportunities but Howard hasn't been great connecting. They need to get better at that to attack the better defenses, so I imagine we will see at least some attempts downfield against Sparty.
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For some reason the 1998 OSU/MSU tilt always stands out to me because the old boards at the time were FLOODED with people wanting to fire Cooper. OSU was really good that year, and MSU was 6-6. The game was @ OSU. I just looked it up, I hadn't realized that Saban was the coach for MSU that year ( I knew he was the coach of MSU at one point). That maybe explains at least something.
Anyways, OSU fans were really, really angry. I just looked up their record, and OSU was 11-1 in 1998. That one game probably cost them a shot at the title, which UTenn won over FSU. I had forgotten how close they came to winning it all. This is probably one of the reasons why there was such a big push to first expand the BCS, and then playoffs, and then more playoffs.
I remember a lot of Aggies were mad because we got paired up with OSU in the Sugar Bowl, and they really should have been in the BCS NCG or maybe face a higher team. We were ranked about #10, and they were like #3 or something.
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I watched that OSU/MSU game at a bar in Seattle with my wife. It ultimately sent Wisconsin to Pasadena. OSU and UW were 7-1 in conference, and didn't play each other. UW got in over the recency rule.
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There were a lot of 1-loss teams that year. Not sure if that is unusual, or was just par for the course back then.
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Ohio State 34, Michigan State 14
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For some reason the 1998 OSU/MSU tilt always stands out to me because the old boards at the time were FLOODED with people wanting to fire Cooper.
Any staunch Buckeye had wanted Cooper canned for quite sometime but pretty sure the old CFN board had come into play in or after 2001 I want to say. So maybe you were on the CNN/SI board
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Any staunch Buckeye had wanted Cooper canned for quite sometime but pretty sure the old CFN board had come into play in or after 2001 I want to say. So maybe you were on the CNN/SI board
It was definitely the old CNNSI boards. I never really got on the CFN boards, seems like I was on CNNSI for quite a while, then they shut those down and we moved to 3-5 different sites over the years, which is why I know some of the posters from way back and some I never mixed it up with until this site. there was Wingnuts site, Dustin R's site, a site ran by a husker (?Rattler maybe?). I can't keep up with them all.
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For some reason the 1998 OSU/MSU tilt always stands out to me because the old boards at the time were FLOODED with people wanting to fire Cooper. OSU was really good that year, and MSU was 6-6. The game was @ OSU. I just looked it up, I hadn't realized that Saban was the coach for MSU that year ( I knew he was the coach of MSU at one point). That maybe explains at least something.
Anyways, OSU fans were really, really angry. I just looked up their record, and OSU was 11-1 in 1998. That one game probably cost them a shot at the title, which UTenn won over FSU. I had forgotten how close they came to winning it all. This is probably one of the reasons why there was such a big push to first expand the BCS, and then playoffs, and then more playoffs.
I remember a lot of Aggies were mad because we got paired up with OSU in the Sugar Bowl, and they really should have been in the BCS NCG or maybe face a higher team. We were ranked about #10, and they were like #3 or something.
One of those games you never forget.
Cooper was wound too tight and the players always sensed it.
That 98 team was one of their best- and was loaded with NFL guys. They were dominating that game- up by 15 mid third quarter. 24-9
Then they muffed a punt. Cooper and his players then folded like a cheap tent.
They finished 11-1 after the Sugar Bowl win and ranked 2nd. 🥈
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It was definitely the old CNNSI boards. I never really got on the CFN boards, seems like I was on CNNSI for quite a while, then they shut those down and we moved to 3-5 different sites over the years, which is why I know some of the posters from way back and some I never mixed it up with until this site. there was Wingnuts site, Dustin R's site, a site ran by a husker (?Rattler maybe?). I can't keep up with them all.
Worldcrossing was one. Somebody once recorded the detailed story of our nomadic journey across the internet and I don't remember who-- probably JCG. :(
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One of those games you never forget.
Cooper was wound too tight and the players always sensed it.
That 98 team was one of their best- and was loaded with NFL guys. They were dominating that game- up by 15 mid third quarter. 24-9
Then they muffed a punt. Cooper and his players then folded like a cheap tent.
They finished 11-1 after the Sugar Bowl win and ranked 2nd. 🥈
I'm sure I've shared this here before but here is my story of that game:
I had a very inconsiderate relative who had the audacity to get married on that day. I was a recent (the prior December) tOSU grad. I went to the wedding with my parents and my younger brother (Sr in HS at the time, about to go to tOSU). The Wedding and Reception were in Canton which is around an hour from my city. The wedding and reception were a few hours apart but it wasn't really worth driving all the way back home just to turn around and drive back so we went to a sports bar and watched the first half.
Ohio State jumped out to a 17-3 lead in the first quarter then basically didn't do much in the second while allowing two scores. Fortunately for the Bucks, they held MSU to FG's both times so the halftime lead was still eight at 17-9.
At halftime we headed for the reception. The second half got underway during our drive and as we were parking the MSU QB threw an interception which tOSU returned for a Pick-6. The XP made it a 15 point game at 24-9. That seemed pretty safe given how much better tOSU was than MSU that year so we headed into the reception confident that the game was won.
When a late arrival at the reception asked what we thought of tOSU's loss we thought they were kidding.
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For some reason the 1998 OSU/MSU tilt always stands out to me because the old boards at the time were FLOODED with people wanting to fire Cooper. OSU was really good that year, and MSU was 6-6. The game was @ OSU. I just looked it up, I hadn't realized that Saban was the coach for MSU that year ( I knew he was the coach of MSU at one point). That maybe explains at least something.
Anyways, OSU fans were really, really angry. I just looked up their record, and OSU was 11-1 in 1998. That one game probably cost them a shot at the title, which UTenn won over FSU. I had forgotten how close they came to winning it all. This is probably one of the reasons why there was such a big push to first expand the BCS, and then playoffs, and then more playoffs.
I remember a lot of Aggies were mad because we got paired up with OSU in the Sugar Bowl, and they really should have been in the BCS NCG or maybe face a higher team. We were ranked about #10, and they were like #3 or something.
Ohio State ended up INCREDIBLY close to the inaugural BCSNCG even after that loss. The relevant teams heading into the CG's:
- 11-0 Tennessee, vs #23 MissSt in SECCG
- 11-0 KSU, vs #10 aTm in B12CG
- 10-0 UCLA, at nr Miami, FL (this game had been scheduled for the fall but delayed due to a Hurricane)
- 11-1 Florida State, regular season complete
- 10-1 Ohio State, regular season complete
So basically:
- TN and KSU just needed to win.
- UCLA needed to win and for one of TN/KSU to lose
- FSU needed two of TN/KSU/UCLA to lose
- tOSU needed all three of TN, KSU, and UCLA to lose
KSU lost to aTm in the B12CG and UCLA lost in the Orange Bowl (stadium not game) to the Hurricanes.
Ohio State got two out of three and MissSt had a 14-10 4th quarter lead over Tennessee.
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Yeah, OSU has all sorts of weird losses.
It could be that Purdue goes 2-10 this year, looking bad in every loss, with their lone conference win being beating OSU :57:
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Remember Zach Smith, the degenerate loser whose behavior got Urban Meyer suspended and perhaps led to him quitting? He is now a podcast bro, who recently went after Ross Fulton, who writes football geek things for OSU media. "Space Coyote," who is a former football coach, went back after him, in an epic twitter thread.
https://twitter.com/SpaceCoyoteBDS/status/1838667113529020689
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The more time we spend in yhis thread discussing the 1998 game and Zach Smith, instead of focusing on this game, the better INO
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Yeah, OSU has all sorts of weird losses.
It could be that Purdue goes 2-10 this year, looking bad in every loss, with their lone conference win being beating OSU :57:
Let me acknowledge up front that this is definitely "helmet school problems", but Ohio State's incredible consistency at being top-5ish but without quite so many championships as other similarly situated teams means that Ohio State probably has more "heartbreaker" seasons than anybody.
1998 is a perfect example. That team was, for their era, one of the best cfb teams I've seen period. So when I look back as a tOSU fan it is such a heartbreaking woulda-coulda-shoulda situation because they were oh-so-close to getting into (and possibly winning) the inaugural BCSNCG. Looking at that one either Ohio State not losing at home to a mediocre (they finished 6-6*) MSU team or MissSt managing to hold onto a 14-10 lead midway through the fourth quarter gets tOSU into the CG.
When I say this here is what I am referring to:
Ohio State is tied with Bama for #2 all-time with 30 top-5 finishes. That trails only Oklahoma, the Sooners have 33. But look at it along with AP #1 finishes:
- 33 Oklahoma, 7 NC's leaving 26 finishes at #2-#5
- 30 Bama, 12 NC's leaving 18 finishes at #2-#5
- 30 Ohio State, 5 NC's leaving 25 finishes at #2-#5
- 25 Notre Dame, 8 NC's leaving 17 finishes at #2-#5
- 21 Texas, 3 NC's leaving 18 finishes at #2-#5
- 19 USC, 5 NC's leaving 14 finishes at #2-#5
- 18 Michigan, 3 NC's leaving 15 finishes at #2-#5
- 17 FSU, 3 NC's leaving 14 finishes at #2-#5
- 15 UGA, 3 NC's leaving 12 finishes at #2-#5
- 14 Penn State, 2 NC's leaving 12 finishes at #2-#5
I think those #2-#5 finishes are the "heartbreakers", the ones you look back at and just think "if only" because they were "oh-so-close" and Ohio State has a LOT of those.
*MSU in 1998 went 6-6 but this was in the midst of MSU's era of constantly beating top-10 opponents but losing to crappy teams. That year not only did they beat tOSU, they also beat a very good ND team that finished 9-3 and played pretty well on the road against a M team that finished 10-3 but they lost to:
- 5-6 MN
- 8-4 CoSU
- 8-4 Ore
- 9-4 PU
- 9-3 PSU
The year before that they blew out a PSU team that finished 9-3 but only went 7-5 themselves. In 1995 they knocked off a M team that finished 9-4 but only went 6-5-1 themselves.
The year after that they pulled off a rare feat of beating Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State in the same season but only went 10-2 because they had a two-game stretch in mid-October where they got annihilated by Purdue and Wisconsin in successive weeks. In 2000 they beat a very good ND team but finished sub .500.
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It could be that Purdue goes 2-10 this year, looking bad in every loss, with their lone conference win being beating OSU :57:
I hope I'm not jinxing it but one of Ryan Day's greatest accomplishments has been not losing to bad teams. The year before he took over Ohio State went 13-1 with the lone loss being a blowout at the hands of your Boilermakers who finished sub .500 that year. Since then (Day's tenure) the losses have all been to good-to-great teams:
- A CFP loss to Clemson
- A NC loss to Bama
- A loss to an Oregon team that made the P12CG
- A loss to B1G Champion* and CFP Participant* Michigan
- A loss to B1G Champion* and CFP Participant* Michigan
- A loss to SEC and NC UGA
- A loss to B1G and NC* Michigan
- A Cotton Bowl loss to a Mizzou team that finished top-10
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Unless Jonathan Smith pulls a Mel Tucker between now and then, I expect it to go down to the wire.
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You had to throw "pulls" in there didn't you? Wonder how Tugger's lawsuit for MSU "defaming" him is shaping up? First off I didn't know he was "famed" then when you tell the USA Today you were tossing off whilst on the University's phone one would imagine word got out
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Young Sparty QB Chiles is about to be baptized in scarlet and grey fire. It'll be ugly but this is how he gets better.