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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: utee94 on September 18, 2024, 12:27:14 PM
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There's a thread on the B1G board but I thought it might be interesting to put one here on the SEC board too, to get the perspective of a different audience.
I saw this recently, it's an interesting idea as the schools move ever-closer to a pay-for-play/employee status model for collegiate sports teams.
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1836044897226219684?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1836044897226219684%7Ctwgr%5E3652d35a4f46d48701f94a5298ea843b973711a7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html1836044897226219684
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They were going to raise prices on us anyway, due to our recent resurgence nationally. And, it was already stupid high to begin with.
How the average family can afford to go to a game doesn't register with me. My kids are grown now, and I'm doing better financially, of course, but I still bristle at the costs. Part of that being I'm am 6 hours away in the western part of the state --- hotels, food, gas, etc. which drives my costs to astronomical levels. All of that said, I limit the crew to 1 game per year, and that's every bit of $2,000-$2500 bucks conservatively.
If I were closer, and could just go to the game, and then go home afterwards, it wouldn't be near the same issue for me. If I were a season ticket holder, I wouldn't like the extra 10%, but it wouldn't stop me at this point in my life.
The bigger issue for me, and probably those like me, are these predatory secondary market vultures. They can rot in hell as far as I am concerned. 3-5 times the face value of tickets, plus their outrageous fees.
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They were going to raise prices on us anyway, due to our recent resurgence nationally. And, it was already stupid high to begin with.
How the average family can afford to go to a game doesn't register with me. My kids are grown now, and I'm doing better financially, of course, but I still bristle at the costs. Part of that being I'm am 6 hours away in the western part of the state --- hotels, food, gas, etc. which drives my costs to astronomical levels. All of that said, I limit the crew to 1 game per year, and that's every bit of $2,000-$2500 bucks conservatively.
If I were closer, and could just go to the game, and then go home afterwards, it wouldn't be near the same issue for me. If I were a season ticket holder, I wouldn't like the extra 10%, but it wouldn't stop me at this point in my life.
The bigger issue for me, and probably those like me, are these predatory secondary market vultures. They can rot in hell as far as I am concerned. 3-5 times the face value of tickets, plus their outrageous fees.
I'm not as far, but I'm in the same boat. I have to gag when I see top game prices. How can the average fan afford that?
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I'm not as far, but I'm in the same boat. I have to gag when I see top game prices. How can the average fan afford that?
10 years ago when all my kids were still dependent --- I couldn't.
And that's when we sucked and tickets were much lower.
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I dropped my season tickets in 2017. Took the kids to lots of games when they were little, and I could just ride them in on my shoulders. :)
Now if I want to take the kids, all I can do is grab tickets to the REALLY bad games, the Kansas or Iowa State type games. Those are still affordable.
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My kids are grown, but my wife (also an alumnus) cares nothing for CFB and never really was crazy about a lot of the college/university things that I care about. I might go to a game with old college buddies or other acquaintances but it's a me thing, not an US thing.
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My kids are grown, but my wife (also an alumnus) cares nothing for CFB and never really was crazy about a lot of the college/university things that I care about. I might go to a game with old college buddies or other acquaintances but it's a me thing, not an US thing.
My wife is a football nut, and she'd blow our life savings on Vols, and Tennessee Titans games, if I wasn't the CFO of the household.
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My kids are grown, but my wife (also an alumnus) cares nothing for CFB and never really was crazy about a lot of the college/university things that I care about. I might go to a game with old college buddies or other acquaintances but it's a me thing, not an US thing.
My wife loves college football in general, and enjoyed watching games, even at evil devil-worshiping t.u. :)
But we also used to always get to at least one Ag home game per year, before kids. Now we get to a couple games in College Station every 5 years or so.
Some Ag friends of ours are trying to convince us to go with them to the Texas-TAMU game on Thanksgiving weekend. They had a line on tickets, but then told us the price. Even my wife was like, "Nope, not even if A&M wins, would it be worth it." So we'll be watching on TV this year. :)
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My wife loves college football in general, and enjoyed watching games, even at evil devil-worshiping t.u. :)
But we also used to always get to at least one Ag home game per year, before kids. Now we get to a couple games in College Station every 5 years or so.
Some Ag friends of ours are trying to convince us to go with them to the Texas-TAMU game on Thanksgiving weekend. They had a line on tickets, but then told us the price. Even my wife was like, "Nope, not even if A&M wins, would it be worth it." So we'll be watching on TV this year. :)
Cough it up. What was the price tag each?
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Cough it up. What was the price tag each?
Ugh.
Goalline seats on the lower deck, they wanted $1200 per ticket. Looking at the secondary market on ticketcity it looks like that's actually a little lower than current market value, so I guess our friends were getting us a "friend's discount."
Still too rich for my blood!
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Ugh.
Goalline seats on the lower deck, they wanted $1200 per ticket. Looking at the secondary market on ticketcity it looks like that's actually a little lower than current market value, so I guess our friends were getting us a "friend's discount."
Still too rich for my blood!
Great googly moogly. Shocking.
Was curious for comparative sake. It would be a great game to be at, but damn. I'm with you....PASS.
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Great googly moogly. Shocking.
Was curious for comparative sake. It would be a great game to be at, but damn. I'm with you....PASS.
I'm fortunate enough (and old enough! ) that I've been to many, many UT-TAMU games, both in College Station and in Austin. It's always very exciting, tons of emotion and drama. I've also been to a lot of Ag games against opponents other than Texas, and there's no doubt that the crowd always has a little something extra for the hated rival from Austin.
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I've heard buy haven't seen of QR codes being attached to players helmets... apparently you are intended to zoom in, snap a Pic, go to the site, and donate $$$ to the player.
Freakin amazing how folks can come up with stuff when the motivation is purely money. World peace would be something to put about half the effort into, as it would be solved pretty quickly (except for those without QR codes seeking to get some from those with) ....
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Now if I want to take the kids, all I can do is grab tickets to the REALLY bad games, the Kansas or Iowa State type games. Those are still affordable.
Ugh. Used to be that I could go any given weekend to DKR and scalp a ticket for just over $100, often a pretty decent seat. I never had to worry about planning for that weekend, or getting a ticket beforehand. And that was back during the Colt McCoy years when Texas was very good and not far removed from a NC. In fact, I and my buddies made two games during the '05 NC year by purchasing from scalpers outside the stadium for the same amount. In those years I saw Baylor, Nebraska, Tech, OSU a couple times, and some others I'm forgetting. Not scrub games, in other words.
Granted, $100 then would be more like $200 now, but I'd still consider that a good price and worth my time.
It sounds like football-flation has hit (hurt?) us all. I move to change our conference slogan to "It Just Costs More."
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Last year(?) on the Big Ten board I detailed how I was running out of F's to give about this sport, given how it's changing, and not to my liking. It's my duty to inform you sometime during the off-season I finally ran out. It's been a long time coming--the ugly truth is I never enjoyed the 2019 season the way I would have prior to around 2014. I was happy for the team and there were memorable things and I enjoyed the games in a certain capacity. Just not like I used to. Last season I was able to muster up the final Give-A-Damns to root for Daniels to win the Heisman since he was having a great season and the sudden novelty of Heisman winners was such a stark contrast to most of the program's history that it provided something unusual enough to stop total disengagement.
I'm still watching the games. I mean, I'll probably never not, given that my wife is still a huge football fan and bogarts the TV during fall weekends. But I don't record any games to watch later, I don't make a point to watch games of our upcoming opponents, and I don't flip channels to watch multiple games at once. I watch whatever game seems most interesting in each of the three time slots, and those are usually LSU and Texas (for Mrs. DeTiger). I don't really feel any differently about them, whoever is playing. When "my" team wins or loses, I don't seem to care. It passes the time and it makes the wife happy to sit and watch with her. A lot of it is the sport and how it has changed. I actually find myself more interested in the NFL on Sundays, which is not something I ever thought I'd say. Something about it seems more honest now. But I suspect at least some of it is me, and how I've changed.
Maybe it wouldn't have happened if I had kids I could've passed this on to, like how my dad used to take me to games--especially the Ole Miss ones (and watch whatever few of our games were on TV back then). But then, it doesn't seem like going to games with family would be affordable anyway. The last AD made sure LSU's total gameday experience priced out the average fan years ago, and unless you're a big TAF donor I don't know how you get tickets at a decent price.
I still have great memories of watching the game on TV and in person back when I absolutely ate it up. Meeting up with friends, making a few board meetings at stadiums I'd never seen before, watching LSU hammer Ole Miss in person through the years, going to DKR when Baton Rouge was too far to drive and I wanted a live-cfb gameday fix, and somehow finding a way on Saturday and some of Sunday to watch gobs of games I recorded and then logging on to some message board and chatting about them. Nothing will ever beat the feeling of LSU winning the SEC in 2001 and going to the Sugar Bowl after a decade of suckitude. Winning it all in '03, and again in '07. Heck, even 2011 is still probably my favorite team ever, despite the ending. And the crushing losses that ended my hopes during many other years, which I hated, and yet in retrospect realized I still loved because there was a lot of joy in rooting for them every weekend. Somehow, I can still remember the names of a right guard or a weakside linebacker, for example, from all of those teams. And 2019 still held some charm as well, even though it was fading.
The good news is that when LSU inevitably slides into its next long phase of suckitude and Florida inevitably is "back" and beats us by 40 pts every year, I won't feel the need to claw my eyeballs out like I did in the 90's. Feels weird, but here we are.
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I've heard buy haven't seen of QR codes being attached to players helmets... apparently you are intended to zoom in, snap a Pic, go to the site, and donate $$$ to the player.
Freakin amazing how folks can come up with stuff when the motivation is purely money. World peace would be something to put about half the effort into, as it would be solved pretty quickly (except for those without QR codes seeking to get some from those with) ....
That was Oklahoma State and apparently got shot down. For now, the schools themselves are still expected to keep an arm's length distance from the mechanics of the NIL operations. Not sure how much longer that will last, but this time it was enough to halt it.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41070382/ncaa-bars-oklahoma-state-placing-nil-linked-qr-codes-helmets
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Being old and retired. I will generally pay whatever for games I want to attend. I am lucky also that my wife loves football. She wasn't much of a CFB fan until she met me but had a been a long time Patriots season ticket holder before moving out to Phoenix.
We fly out to see a game or 2 every year, whether it is the Browns, Patriots or the Buckeyes. We actually season are club seat tickets holders for the Arizona Cardinals every though we are not fans of the team, so we can see the teams we want to see and sell what we don't. I even when to the ASU-MSU game a couple of weeks ago, even though I don't really care about either team.
I can say that I don't appreciate what CFB has become (is becoming), but I will probably continue to pay the ridiculous amount of money to watch it in person. And with revenue sharing for the players coming, probably sooner rather than later, cost are going to continue to go up.
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Last year(?) on the Big Ten board I detailed how I was running out of F's to give about this sport, given how it's changing, and not to my liking. It's my duty to inform you sometime during the off-season I finally ran out. It's been a long time coming--the ugly truth is I never enjoyed the 2019 season the way I would have prior to around 2014. I was happy for the team and there were memorable things and I enjoyed the games in a certain capacity. Just not like I used to. Last season I was able to muster up the final Give-A-Damns to root for Daniels to win the Heisman since he was having a great season and the sudden novelty of Heisman winners was such a stark contrast to most of the program's history that it provided something unusual enough to stop total disengagement.
I'm still watching the games. I mean, I'll probably never not, given that my wife is still a huge football fan and bogarts the TV during fall weekends. But I don't record any games to watch later, I don't make a point to watch games of our upcoming opponents, and I don't flip channels to watch multiple games at once. I watch whatever game seems most interesting in each of the three time slots, and those are usually LSU and Texas (for Mrs. DeTiger). I don't really feel any differently about them, whoever is playing. When "my" team wins or loses, I don't seem to care. It passes the time and it makes the wife happy to sit and watch with her. A lot of it is the sport and how it has changed. I actually find myself more interested in the NFL on Sundays, which is not something I ever thought I'd say. Something about it seems more honest now. But I suspect at least some of it is me, and how I've changed.
Maybe it wouldn't have happened if I had kids I could've passed this on to, like how my dad used to take me to games--especially the Ole Miss ones (and watch whatever few of our games were on TV back then). But then, it doesn't seem like going to games with family would be affordable anyway. The last AD made sure LSU's total gameday experience priced out the average fan years ago, and unless you're a big TAF donor I don't know how you get tickets at a decent price.
I still have great memories of watching the game on TV and in person back when I absolutely ate it up. Meeting up with friends, making a few board meetings at stadiums I'd never seen before, watching LSU hammer Ole Miss in person through the years, going to DKR when Baton Rouge was too far to drive and I wanted a live-cfb gameday fix, and somehow finding a way on Saturday and some of Sunday to watch gobs of games I recorded and then logging on to some message board and chatting about them. Nothing will ever beat the feeling of LSU winning the SEC in 2001 and going to the Sugar Bowl after a decade of suckitude. Winning it all in '03, and again in '07. Heck, even 2011 is still probably my favorite team ever, despite the ending. And the crushing losses that ended my hopes during many other years, which I hated, and yet in retrospect realized I still loved because there was a lot of joy in rooting for them every weekend. Somehow, I can still remember the names of a right guard or a weakside linebacker, for example, from all of those teams. And 2019 still held some charm as well, even though it was fading.
The good news is that when LSU inevitably slides into its next long phase of suckitude and Florida inevitably is "back" and beats us by 40 pts every year, I won't feel the need to claw my eyeballs out like I did in the 90's. Feels weird, but here we are.
Eh, I've had periods where my interest in Aggie football waned. Not coincidentally, they occurred at the same time the W-L was rather disappointing. Or several seasons of 8-4 bleh. And, I have also had a lot of demands on my time through the years. My kids never got into CFB or any of that vibe, but we did fish and hunt, and being in that environment has been a huge blessing through the years. Not to mention the fact that I worked shiftwork from 2002-2020 and I literally worked more than 50% of all my weekends during that time. So it made it hard to keep up with the games and the teams, especially before the streaming era. We couldn't get cable or any kind of TV at some of my other jobs.
But all in all, I truly love Aggie Football, especially when we've got a good team or an interesting "other" season. And now that I'm not working shiftwork I'm able to catch more games on TV, especially at night. Me and my wife have been talking about trying to make more games now that our kids are "grown". Oldest is Sr. in College (not A&M), youngest will be 18 in '25 and is very independent.
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I've heard buy haven't seen of QR codes being attached to players helmets... apparently you are intended to zoom in, snap a Pic, go to the site, and donate $$$ to the player.
I believe that the Oklahoma State Cowpukes were going to do that. Somebody told them that it would violate the rules, so they're going to do something like posting QR codes around the stadium.
The last CFB game I attended was OU at Nebraska in 2022. It was like going back in time, in a great way. No laser-light shows. No music/machine noise blaring at hearing-loss levels, filling every spare second. Just friendly, loyal fans discussing the game and cheering for their team when it was doing well.
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I believe that the Oklahoma State Cowpukes were going to do that. Somebody told them that it would violate the rules, so they're going to do something like posting QR codes around the stadium.
The last CFB game I attended was OU at Nebraska in 2022. It was like going back in time, in a great way. No laser-light shows. No music/machine noise blaring at hearing-loss levels, filling every spare second. Just friendly, loyal fans discussing the game and cheering for their team when it was doing well.
You should go to the TX-OU game at the Cotton Bowl. It's a total throwback to the way games were 30-40 years ago. There's a little bit of advertising but it's minimal, and no constant barrage of too-loud music piped in through the stadium loudspeakers. You hear the bands, the cheerleaders, and the fans.
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That's a good point!
I think the 2016 game was the last RRS I attended. It was enjoyable, as were the Fletcher's Corny Dogs and the various exhibits at the Fair.
I might go again before I'm too old to enjoy the trip.
Nonstop, ear-splitting noise from the PA system just ruins my day. I walk out of the stadium feeling like I've just spent 3 hours in a sauna being beaten by pool noodles.
I could tolerate the other stupid stuff if they'd just cease with the "fan-experience-enhancing" noise.
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My daughter earned her degree in 2022. With the whole "Texas Exes" thing, she had an invite to buy season tickets at some such or other. I didn't understand all the ins and outs, but we put in for two anyhow. We ended up in the northeast upper deck. About what I was expecting.
We went to the UTSA game so far. Frankly, it's a lot of effort to head down to Austin and go through all the hoopla for the slate of teams we've played thus far. My living room and TV do a really good job at showing me the game. That, and full disclosure, those seats trigger my fear of heights - it takes me a few minutes to calm the adrenaline reaction.
The stadium is really nice. Everything works. I wish they'd calm a few things down, such as constant PA interactions with things like first downs (we've got it - we've had it for decades and don't need the help). Some stuff is over the top, but CDC worked really hard to fine tune the fan experience.
That said, we're going to the UGA game this Saturday. Some things are worth it to see live - even from a cruddy angle.