The game in Ann Arbor can be found on CBS at 3:30 PM EST. Michigan opened at -10.5 in the distant past and the line has since moved to Michigan +6. Michigan pulled QB Warren after this third INT on Saturday and put Orji in who did Ok. Remains to be seen who will start for Michigan vs. the Trojans. I don't think Michigan has a spread offense which kind of neuters Orji's potential. Thinking this will be nearly as ugly as the Texas game.I have no clue what to think.
Orji named starterSherrone Moore had no other choice. His team and his fan base would've had a revolt if he kept Davis Warren as the starter.
The Orji era has begun. Let's hope it's longer than the Warren era.Nobody has fun at a quick Orji
Nobody has fun at a quick Orjihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKrN4vNsBzA
The Orji era has begun. Let's hope it's longer than the Warren era.with last season's O-Line, maybe
https://athlonsports.com/college/wolverine-digest/michigan-football-news-qb-alex-orji-to-start-against-usc-glb3 (https://athlonsports.com/college/wolverine-digest/michigan-football-news-qb-alex-orji-to-start-against-usc-glb3)
Now make Mullings the starting RB and put Edwards in the slot every now and then and they may have something,
with last season's O-Line, maybeThis is exactly why I was so irked they didn’t give him meaningful play time when the Texas game was clearly over. How could every other human with a pulse see it except the coaching staff?
gonna have to toss more than 4 passes vs solid defenses
How could every other human with a pulse see it except the coaching staff?To be fair to the current Michigan coaching staff, they lost their eyes.
To be fair to the current Michigan coaching staff, they lost their eyes.When are you going to be done with it? 7 -olinemen drafted. Qb goes #9. Star rb. Star receiver drafted. Head coach and most of the important assistants go.
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with last season's O-Line, maybePlenty of time left to iron out the issues before late November. Until then Michigan's offense is going to be painful to watch.
gonna have to toss more than 4 passes vs solid defenses
Plenty of time left to iron out the issues before late November. Until then Michigan's offense is going to be painful to watch.so, the defense is gonna carry the wins over USC and Oregon until then?
When are you going to be done with it? 7 -olinemen drafted. Qb goes #9. Star rb. Star receiver drafted. Head coach and most of the important assistants go.First, as discussed previously, "somebody else cheated too" still isn't a defense no matter how many times you allege it.
yet here you go. I’m sure you blame Stallions on the OSU loss, even though the program had a massive microscope at that point and you take every chance to bring it up and say asterisk. The take is weak. Your opinion on it is weak. You’ll be the first to say it’s only gold pants, tattoos and Bobby D was only giving players cash envelopes of small values at charity events for their “costs”. The hypocrisy is hilarious, sad and frankly getting annoying.
| Site | First Meeting | Last Meeting | Games | Win % | Wins | Losses | Ties | Average Score | |
| Any | 2001 | 2019 | 19 | 0.105 | 2 | 17 | 22.53 | 33.89 | |
| Home | 2001 | 2019 | 10 | 0.200 | 2 | 8 | 23.00 | 31.20 | |
| Away | 2002 | 2018 | 9 | 0.000 | 0 | 9 | 22.00 | 36.89 | |
| Neutral |
| Date | Opponent (record) | Result | Score | Site | |
| 11/30/2019 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2019) (13-1) | L | 27 | 56 |
| 11/24/2018 | @ | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2018) (13-1) | L | 39 | 62 |
| 11/25/2017 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2017) (12-2) | L | 20 | 31 |
| 11/26/2016 | @ | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2016) (11-2) | L | 27 | 30 |
| 11/28/2015 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2015) (12-1) | L | 13 | 42 |
| 11/29/2014 | @ | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2014) (14-1) | L | 28 | 42 |
| 11/30/2013 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2013) (12-2) | L | 41 | 42 |
| 11/24/2012 | @ | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2012) (12-0) | L | 21 | 26 |
| 11/26/2011 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2011) (6-7) | W | 40 | 34 |
| 11/27/2010 | @ | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2010) (12-1) | L | 7 | 37 |
| 11/21/2009 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2009) (11-2) | L | 10 | 21 |
| 11/22/2008 | @ | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2008) (10-3) | L | 7 | 42 |
| 11/17/2007 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2007) (11-2) | L | 3 | 14 |
| 11/18/2006 | @ | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2006) (12-1) | L | 39 | 42 |
| 11/19/2005 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2005) (10-2) | L | 21 | 25 |
| 11/20/2004 | @ | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2004) (8-4) | L | 21 | 37 |
| 11/22/2003 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2003) (11-2) | W | 35 | 21 |
| 11/23/2002 | @ | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2002) (14-0) | L | 9 | 14 |
| 11/24/2001 | vs. | *Ohio State (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/OhioState.htm#2001) (7-5) | L | 20 | 26 |
You’re not even worth communicating with. You talk to people that don’t share your opinion like they’re beneath you. Stop posting on Michigan threads.Not my opinions, facts.
I’m going to take a clearer stance. I went through bilateral craniotomy in 2022. Some of my favorite moments recovering was my kids snuggling with me, watching Michigan games and being a family. We went through hell as a family on multiple levels.I'm truly sorry for what you went through but it doesn't give you any level of moral authority let alone to say this:
You can call people pathetic all you want as you have no character so your summation of people holds zero weight:
To be fair to the current Michigan coaching staff, they lost their eyes.shut the fuck up about it already you whining little pussy.
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C'mon. Let's move past this.It’s old. It’s seriously old. Most of us are at points in our life where we share the game we love with the people we love and cherish the memories. His tirades on this path are why people disappear from here. Saying “the institute you root for is trash” is a beyond disgusting thing to say.
All the Michigan posters here are good people and had nothing to do with what Michigan did or didn't do.
Nobody here wants their team to do bad things.
It’s old. It’s seriously old. Most of us are at points in our life where we share the game we love with the people we love and cherish the memories. His tirades on this path are why people disappear from here. Saying “the institute you root for is trash” is a beyond disgusting thing to say.As I've said I'm basically an outside observer without an inherent bias for or against either team. But this is one of the most egregious cheating scandals I've ever seen in college football. The phrase "I've got receipts" is a bit of a hackneyed phrase, but Michigan actually had receipts that Stalions had to submit for reimbursement!
We need to leave family out of any discussion on this, to be honest.Agree. I don't know of any parents who raise their kids to be cheaters. I suppose it might happen, you see it in teen sports movies and TV shows like Karate Kid or Friday Night Lights. But I don't know anyone who actually believes or practices that in real life.
I thought RC was rather clean. Was he not?RC was Jackie's bagman. There's a reason they promoted from within.
I for sure know Sherrill was scum.
Agree. I don't know of any parents who raise their kids to be cheaters. I suppose it might happen, you see it in teen sports movies and TV shows like Karate Kid or Friday Night Lights. But I don't know anyone who actually believes or practices that in real life.Nominated for best backhanded compliment in board history
The Texas A&M Aggies are among the dirtiest cheater programs in NCAA history, yet I don't blame my wife for that, nor do I tell her she should be ashamed of her school. She didn't have anything to do with the shenanigans of Jackie $herrill and RC $locum.
I strongly support keeping it that way here.
As I've said I'm basically an outside observer without an inherent bias for or against either team. But this is one of the most egregious cheating scandals I've ever seen in college football. The phrase "I've got receipts" is a bit of a hackneyed phrase, but Michigan actually had receipts that Stalions had to submit for reimbursement!This, 100% this.
But I've seen only two reactions to this scandal from the Michigan fans on this board.
- The Mdot approach. He doesn't care that Michigan cheated, in fact I think he revels in it. Because they won the championship and showed the NCAA to be the feckless organization that they are.
- The approach from pretty much every other M fan. When the allegations came out, "let's wait for all the facts". "Maybe Stalions was a lone wolf" (he wasn't. When the proof started coming out "well everyone steals signs" (but not like this). When Stalions was gone and they still were winning "well I guess it wasn't that much of an advantage so who really cares." When Harbaugh ran off to the NFL and Michigan didn't clean house and hired the guy who was there during all of this and is under NCAA investigation for deleting evidence that was later recovered, just says "oh well, we'll let the NCAA process play out."
Deflect. Minimize. Excuse.
What I haven't seen, and would expect to, is to hear: "Yeah, it was bad. It was cheating. Everyone involved should be punished. The school should have cleaned house of everyone involved, even outside the football program and into the athletic department of anyone who knew and was complicit in it. It was wrong, but please give us the grace to go and correct it the right way."
Maybe some of the Michigan fans on this board have said that and I've missed it. But I don't recall it.
^^^^^This too.
Everything bwar just said. 100%.
I'll add that even now, Michigan fans still call out Ohio State as being a dirty cheater institution. It's been years and years since the last scandal broke there, yet even now Michigan fans bring it up.
So to expect Ohio State fans to just "drop it" while plenty of the sordid story has just recently come out, and current staff are STILL under further investigation, is not only unrealistic-- it's silly.
whining little pussy.Then he said a bunch of other crap. It is exactly as @betarhoalphadelta (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) just said:
He clearly doesn't give a rat's behind about character. As bwar said, he revels in Michigan's cheating.
- The Mdot approach. He doesn't care that Michigan cheated, in fact I think he revels in it. Because they won the championship and showed the NCAA to be the feckless organization that they are.
one of the most egregious cheating scandals I've ever seen in college football.and further that it would be proven as in:
The phrase "I've got receipts" is a bit of a hackneyed phrase, but Michigan actually had receipts that Stalions had to submit for reimbursement!I'd have thought it was some lone wolf or *MAYBE* Harbaugh but that once the evidence was presented the institution would have the self respect to:
The school should have cleaned house of everyone involved, even outside the football program and into the athletic department of anyone who knew and was complicit in it. It was wrong, but please give us the grace to go and correct it the right way."but they didn't. They stepped further into it. The entire institution is now complicit. There is no "Institutional Control". The inmates are running the asylum. There was no cleaning house. They actually signed a contract with a guy who obstructed an NCAA investigation.
"Yeah, it was bad. It was cheating. Everyone involved should be punished. The school should have cleaned house of everyone involved, even outside the football program and into the athletic department of anyone who knew and was complicit in it. It was wrong, but please give us the grace to go and correct it the right way."But the sad fact is:
Maybe some of the Michigan fans on this board have said that and I've missed it. But I don't recall it.That is sad and pathetic.
Is it possible they crossed lines and cheated? Sure is, but no one knows the entire story even though some act like they have all the pieces.I'd expect an OSU fan to take everything that has come out about this from the beginning and make it worse than it is. And I'd expect every Michigan fan to try to paint everything in the best light possible.
Ok, coming from the same dude that probably wears a Browns sweatshirt and the muni-lot is a disgrace to family integrity.
Nobody here wants their team to do bad things.I can think of at least one exception.
Saying “the institute you root for is trash” is a beyond disgusting thing to say.It would be disgusting if it weren't true.
It would be disgusting if it weren't true.The entire institution is not trash. That's too. There is a whole lot of good about Michigan.
Ok, coming from the same dude that probably wears a Browns sweatshirt and the muni-lot is a disgrace to family integrity.I own one Browns shirt. The QB pictured on it is Bernie Kosar so yeah, not me.
Sorry, but this is the 4th time he’s brought up my kids in a conversation? He doesn’t know my kids, doesn’t know my family and there should always be an unwritten rule - leave my kids out of your f-ing mouth! I’ve let it pass a few times, but he’s consistently brought them up.I brought it up specifically because I don't think you are @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) . I think you are a good person. I think if YOU were AD a M, you'd have reacted more appropriately.
What do you tell your kids? None of your damn business how I raise my kids.
I'm calling for a truce.We went over the rules in the dressing room.
Gives me and @GopherRock (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=47) a chance to join the fight club.
Which gives me inspiration to start a new thread.
"The CFB51 Fight Club Thread"
And keep all the shit in there instead of every Michigan or Ohio State or Rankings or Stream thread. Or or or.
I'm consulting @utee94 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15) and @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) on this concept.
We went over the rules in the dressing room.(https://y.yarn.co/fcc8431d-00a2-45a2-8849-07690aec5348_text.gif)
Defend yourself at all times.
Obey my commands at all times.
If you knock the other man down, go to the neutral corner and stay there until I tell you otherwise.
DING DING
Did Michigan cheat? Obviously. But it was the perfect college football scandal. Nobody was hurt.Like DB Cooper it appears they got away with the loot - the only subject I've ever binge watched - Cooper that is
they can keep the lootMeh, every single one of OU's football titles is at least as tainted, but I don't hear any of you yahoos howling about that.
it's tainted
Meh, every single one of OU's football titles is at least as tainted, but I don't hear any of you yahoos howling about that.Well said .. agree 100%
Auburn with Cam Newton.
USC with Reggie Bush.
Tons of football titles are tainted, and the only people who ever give a rat's ass about it, are the closest rivals.
I disagreeFeel free to disagree. I don't see any difference at all.
payin players is a different form of cheating and something that has been going on since the beginning of the sport
stealing signs is also a lifelong thing, but not to this EXTENT
this is unprecedented and should be treated as such
Well said .. agree 100%Yeah but youve been railing against Indiana's 1968? Rose Bowl appearance since you got here
So no, I don't see it as any different. And yet you dipsticks are howling about THIS one case. It's honestly laughable.dipsticks?!?!?!?
dipsticks?!?!?!?It comes from a place of love. I don't REALLY want to hurt your feelings... :)
dipsticks?!?!?!?Clearly you don't know how much 0W-20 full synthetic it takes to keep the system running.
Meh, every single one of OU's football titles is at least as tainted, but I don't hear any of you yahoos howling about that.Not even close Junior the dirt burglars weren't that sharp and I'm sure there's no "Surly" Boosters on the 40 Acres ;D
Not even close Junior the dirt burglars weren't that sharp and I'm sure there's no "Surly" Boosters on the 40 Acres ;DLulzno
Meh, every single one of OU's football titles is at least as tainted, but I don't hear any of you yahoos howling about that.
Auburn with Cam Newton.
USC with Reggie Bush.
Tons of football titles are tainted, and the only people who ever give a rat's ass about it, are the closest rivals.
I disagree, payin players is a different form of cheating and something that has been going on since the beginning of the sportI'm with @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) on this and I'll add that another neutral fan, @betarhoalphadelta (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) called it "one of the most egregious college football scandals (he'd) ever seen. I'm in that camp and NOT just because it is Michigan. I'll explain:
stealing signs is also a lifelong thing, but not to this EXTENT
this is unprecedented and should be treated as such
I'm with @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) on this and I'll add that another neutral fan, @betarhoalphadelta (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) called it "one of the most egregious college football scandals (he'd) ever seen. I'm in that camp and NOT just because it is Michigan. I'll explain:
OU: The usual paying players but the institution (to the best of my knowledge) didn't actually write checks. The actual violations were committed by boosters and kids.
Auburn with Cam Newton: I've brought this one up as a comparison many times. Again, the institution did not commit the violation. Boosters paid a kid (actually a kid's dad's church).
USC with Reggie Bush: Agents paid a kid. Again, the institution did not commit the violation.
Similarly, SM has alleged repeatedly that various tOSU players got "hundred-dollar handshakes", no-show jobs, and the like. I'm sure it has happened in the past at tOSU but I'm equally sure that it has happened at his Michigan, @utee94 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15) 's Texas, @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) 's Nebraska, and probably even at @betarhoalphadelta (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) 's Purdue. In all of those cases boosters and/or agents and kids broke a rule. It happens.
The Cam Newton situation and the Fab Five scandal were different in scale. Newton didn't get a hundred dollar handshake or a few bucks from a no-show job, allegedly his father's church got something like half a freaking million dollars. The Fab Five was even worse as they had a near-NBA level payroll.
This scandal is very different (and much worse) not because it differs in scale but because it differs in type. The violation wasn't committed by a booster, agent, or kid. The violation was committed by an employee of the institution. The institution is inextricably involved because it was their employee cheated. This wasn't a failure to monitor (or more realistically at a lot of schools, an intentional effort not to notice) violations committed by kids and agents/boosters. This was the institution itself actively flaunting the rules and throwing sportsmanship to the trash.
Then the institution chose to do NOTHING once the whole scheme was uncovered. As I've said, Ohio State fired a NC winning coach for failing to disclose one email that had notified him of a violation committed by kids. That is the reaction I expect from respectable institutions. Michigan tried to re-sign their cheating coach then, when he beat the posse out of town they hired an underling who had obstructed the NCAA's investigation by destroying evidence. What kind of institution does that?
@betarhoalphadelta (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) called it "one of the most egregious college football scandals (he'd) ever seen.
Lulzno(https://media0.giphy.com/media/YHYmMLkOmqoo/200.gif) (https://media0.giphy.com/media/YHYmMLkOmqoo/200.gif)
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Nope. It's no different. You care about it because they're your hated rival. In 12 months nobody is going to remember or care about this, in the same way you don't care that OU cheated egregiously for 5 decades and that's the only reason they have any titles at all. Your dismissal of OU's egregious cheating is only proving my point. You don't care that they have numerous ill-gotten titles. You don't care at all.That's true, and it's not. I agree with you that many of the OSU fans here care about it MORE because it's Michigan than anything else. And I think Michigan fans are trying to bury it now and "move on" because they know that a decade from now, all anyone will remember about 2023 is Michigan won the national championship and there won't be an asterisk hanging over it for eternity. I'm sure I'll have forgotten about it by then while OSU fans will still be bringing it up, just like M fans and tattoogate.
Nobody currently cares about Michigan's actions nearly as much as Ohio State fans, and in a year nobody will care or bother to bring it up, other than Ohio State fans.
You keep coming back to that statement, so I do want to soften it a little bit with some context.Fair.
This was different. It was a complex, orchestrated scheme, that had to involve multiple members of Michigan staff directly. And on top of that, it was directly about gaining a competitive on the field advantage far beyond any sort of effort any team had ever made to decipher opponents' signs, including blatantly violating the rule against advanced in-person scouting.This IS my point. It wasn't boosters/agents and kids, it was the institution.
That's true, and it's not. I agree with you that many of the OSU fans here care about it MORE because it's Michigan than anything else. And I think Michigan fans are trying to bury it now and "move on" because they know that a decade from now, all anyone will remember about 2023 is Michigan won the national championship and there won't be an asterisk hanging over it for eternity. I'm sure I'll have forgotten about it by then while OSU fans will still be bringing it up, just like M fans and tattoogate.Maybe some of it for me is that I've heard about tattoogate for over a decade and that was:
But I think the reason this whole thing shocked the college football world last year is that I agree with medina that it's different. We've never seen anything like this, at least in college. Both the type of cheating, and the scope of the scheme. The whole Spygate thing with the Patriots is about the closest that I can come up with, and there are fans around the NFL who will always call Belichick a cheater for the rest of their lives because of it.
Are USC and Michigan playing this weekend?Probably?
From a moral perspective, this scandal doesn't even come close to potentially harboring a pedophile like Penn State. From a football perspective, however, it does.My take on this has always been that the NCAA should never have gotten involved. There is simply nothing they could do that would be sufficient to punish pedophilia and/or harboring a pedophile. That isn't a football/sports/ncaa violation, it is a criminal matter that should have been and was dealt with by the appropriate criminal jurisdiction.
Fair. This IS my point. It wasn't boosters/agents and kids, it was the institution.If you guys think that the decades of institutionalized cheating at a place like OU didn't heavily involve the coaches and athletic department actively directing the boosters on which recruits to target with bags of cash, and who to continue funneling cash to via fake jobs once they reached campus, then I've got some ocean-front property in Arizona to sell you. How do you think that stuff works? You think boosters just find some player they like, give him a lot of money, and then tell coach "hey I'm sending old Joe Smith your way, hope you can find a use for him?" It's always coordinated through the coaching staff and athletic department. NIL works exactly the same, except now it's above the table and legal.
The transgressions of Harbaugh, Stallions, Moore, and I'll add Tressel were not criminal. They were violations of sports-related rules. Thus, the NCAA is the appropriate authority to address them.Actually, the Big Ten is the appropriate authority. Conferences have different rules when it comes to signs, signals and such.
Actually, the Big Ten is the appropriate authority. Conferences have different rules when it comes to signs, signals and such.The Ohio State honks are sucking all the oxygen out of the room, not likely we'll find any Michigan fans that want to discuss the game under the circumstances. And of course we don't have any USC fans.
That said, is USC playing Michigan this weekend?
Who do you trust least: Michigan's offense or USC's defense?I think that USC's vastly improved defense will be enough to contain M's vastly diminished offense and that will be the difference because the strength on strength of M's defense vs USC's offense should be fairly even.
I think that USC's vastly improved defense will be enough to contain M's vastly diminished offense and that will be the difference because the strength on strength of M's defense vs USC's offense should be fairly even.
I think that USC's vastly improved defense will be enough to contain M's vastly diminished offense and that will be the difference because the strength on strength of M's defense vs USC's offense should be fairly even.Yep.
The Ohio State honks are sucking all the oxygen out of the roomNo you're just winded from running off the 'Skers,Aggies & Buffs then leaving the Big 12 at the alter all whilst chasing the SEC bagmen down who've gone legit
Yeah that's what I'm feeling as well. I really do think that it'll take some time for Michigan's offensive line to gel, and it's unfortunate timing for them, that they're catching Texas and USC early in the season. Later, they should be a lot better. Not championship-caliber good, but also not left-for-dead bad, like some folks seem to believe, at this time.FWIW:
No you're just winded from running off the 'Skers,Aggies & Buffs then leaving the Big 12 at the alter all whilst chasing the SEC bagmen down who've gone legit(https://media.tenor.com/-ifMoleTroUAAAAM/why-i-outta.gif)
:)
At the time it was a shocking upset but looking back and knowing how good Ohio State was in 2005 and beyond the shock isn't that they beat Michigan it is that they lost to Northwestern, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Purdue.Good thing they weren't in the Big Ten West back then
FWIW:that's called REACHING for something that sucks for Buck fans
This sucks for Ohio State because M in late November is probably going to be something like 10-2 caliber team with something like a 7-4 record thus creating a lose/lose situation for the Buckeyes.
gotta say I love 235 pound RB's that run through tackles and run people over...And thats why I hate the "no 2 high safeties" take. Football has a natural pendulum. Sorry that HS football is a joke and everyone plays 7 v 7s. If you cant stop 5 yards up the middle every play, thats on you. Do I wish it required some more elaborate blocking schemes? Yeah, but Ill take the natural enb and flow of the game
https://twitter.com/Chapmatic34/status/1837628542068445581
Michigan still needs to figure out how to throw the ball effectively when needed. If they do, they might have something when they show up in Columbus in two months.I honestly don't know how that happens.
Orji is learning. He has a huge arm but is still learning how to see the field. Do you remember JJ not seeing open receivers? I do and he got better. Orji hasn't thrown that many passes in actual games and his long passes this year have all been a bit too long. Better too long than too short. Orji will get better now that he's starting. I guess I'm hoping that it'll be enough to make Michigan's passing game dangerous enough to help with the running game. Opponents will still stack the box no matter what.Idk. I have my doubts and I'd love to be proven wrong by him. But point blank period he's definitely a MUCH better option than Davis Warren- who is a walk-on that sucks and should never see the field at a place like Michigan let alone be a starter. The only reason for Davis Warren to ever see the field at a place like Michigan would be to unload the bench and your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string QBs have already taken snaps so might as well let the 5th string walk-on QB get a couple reps. That's it. Period. End of story.