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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: Cincydawg on September 01, 2024, 01:46:16 PM
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I don't think they changed much after Week One. I'm just doing groupings:
Texas
Alabama
Ole Miss
Georgia
LSU?
Still to be sorted of course, only the Dawgs played someone with a pulse (ostensibly).
Tennessee
Missouri
Both teams could end up in Group 1.
Vandy - Still a threat to Texas.
A&M - probably decent.
Kentucky - same
Oklahoma - same
Florida - in for a long year
South Carolina - probably meh
Miss State
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Florida is a mess...
It's really hard to tell anything about Bama yet...
Texas, same as Bama, but they have depth at the most important position, as manning might start at just about any other school in the nation.
Tennessee has a QB again, but I saw something not mentioned- he held his left shoulder briefly between plays... sore? strained? bug bite? now couple that with the fact he and the entire O loafed the last couple drives of the first half, and.... it deserves to be watched... intensity can be coached, though.
aTm lost that game by less points than they should have.. they absolutely had the home team officials.. and, i don't think ND is 'that' good. maybe a top 25 but not a top ten team at this point.
vandy looked good and then they didn't. they gave up a 20-3 lead and went into OT with a VT team that couldn't execute to save their lives.
Ole Miss has a lot of firepower... what'll happen when they have any resistance whatsoever? they won't score 70+ points, for certain.
Oklahoma.... it's hard to say, but based on what i watched they're a middling team. the joke could be on me, too, because they may gel up before they play my guys.
USCe has a coaching problem.. Beamer ain't it. he's dishonest and he's in over his head.
Can't tell anything about Mizzou, either.
LSU? I ain't sold on kelly living up to the hype.. like.. ever.
and then their is UGA. who i love to hate while still having great respect for what Smart is and has done. THAT is the team to watch, and not just because they're #1.
against Clemson, who i'm not sold is currently and 'elite' team, they did something they'd do to anyone. it's two factors and the kind that if present makes ANY team hard to beat. first off, it's been said, when speaking of defenses, "scheme gets the player in position; talent/ability makes the play". i've seen teams play above their station where the player made up for the scheme, and i've seen scheme's make a player look better than they are. with UGA, they have both- and it's always present. they have it on the field and they have it on the bench two layers deep. That makes them damn near impervious to offenses unless that offense is really really good at what they do. Clemson isn't, but the good news is there are few who are... likely, a very few. the next thing they have is ability to identify and adjust- which is on coaching entirely- and they do... they identify and make good adjustments at the half, and pour on the throttle. that's bad news for one dimensional teams, which are most the teams they face this season.
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Oklahoma.... it's hard to say, but based on what i watched they're a middling team. the joke could be on me, too, because they may gel up before they play my guys.
I'm afraid you are right about "middling team." And it could be worse than middling. With a first-year starter at QB, our O-line is going to have to get much better fast or it will be a long, unenjoyable season.
Our D, OTOH, looks like it might finally be up to Brent Venables' standards.
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I'm afraid you are right about "middling team." And it could be worse than middling. With a first-year starter at QB, our O-line is going to have to get much better fast or it will be a long, unenjoyable season.
Our D, OTOH, looks like it might finally be up to Brent Venables' standards.
Your fellas got quite the rude schedule as a welcome aboard... its a grind as tough as just about anyone else's. Florida has it rough, too... thats the thing about this league. Depth is incredibly important. Roster is everything.
Every dang team in the SEC thinks they'll play for the trophy every year and a team like oklahoma or texas, who are every bit as good as any sec team, are going to find out quickly that they're marked... they're going to get everyone's best shot... which isn't excpetional... what is- every team actually believes it and they aren't just hyped....
week in.. week out.. it has to be hard on those kids to carry that, because if they slip up (and do every year) those that loved them are going to hate them just like that. It's as any other league, just cranked up every single weekend. It's gotta be tough on the coaches too- not only to keep the players focused but to manage their mental health to be able to put a game behind them, because a dog just as nasty as the last one is next. Circling games is a certain way for a team to fall unexpectedly.
A little easier schedule would have been more humane. Then again, coming out of it with ten wins will be dang near a superhuman accomplishment for the sooners and the type of thing legends are made from....... and it 'could' happen.
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I need to call the team! I bet Arkansas doesn't know it's been kicked from the SEC.... really?
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I need to call the team! I bet Arkansas doesn't know it's been kicked from the SEC.... really?
Momma told me "if ya ain't got nuthin good to say or what you have to say isn't encouraging, don't say nuthin"...
:)
How long do ya figure arkys coach will last? Methinks him a good dude... he's over his head but at least he's honest.
By the way... arky has been my second or maybe third team for a long time... since way back in the mid nineties when on deployment and I drew them while playing ncaa football on a game console... I took them to the championship game with a RB named "butt plug" who averaged over 600yds rushing a game, but lost something like 63 to 77 to a Nebraska team that scored on every other special teams play.
We gave all skilled players foul names.. and cranked the volume up on the tube... it would draw quite the audience who were equally bored with life at the time.
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https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
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Is this the part where I start chanting SECSECSEC? Please forgive my newbie questions... :)
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Is this the part where I start chanting SECSECSEC? Please forgive my newbie questions... :)
This is the part where you say "oh, shit" every single week when you look at the schedule and await the relief that comes when the built in excuse of "SEC" is realized.
Youll get it.
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6 of the top 7. Sheesh.
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Texas has a manageable schedule, relatively speaking (relative to Florida's). THey appear to have a very good team with all the pieces. They should be thinking Atlanta and a playoff spot obviously. A Big Key is to avoid that weird upset, as we saw at ND, that comes unexpected. You can't drop one to "South Carolina" and slide by.
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You can't drop one to "South Carolina" and slide by.
Seems like that's exactly the point of a 12 team playoff. You can drop one, or two, or maybe even more, and slide by.
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You can make the 12, sure, but you might miss the CG as a result.
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Who cares about the CG? Alabama has avoided that potential loss and gone on to tout NCs more than once, and nobody even remembers (except me, I guess). UGA lost the CG and nobody remembers or cares, because they won the NC.
Make the playoffs, win a NC. That's the goal. Most people don't remember or care about conference championships anymore. It's a leftover vestige from a bygone era, sort of like my appendix.
Personally, I wish the sport were still regional and CGs were of utmost importance, and NCs were lagniappe and fodder for water cooler conversations. But, that ain't the world we live in.
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The loser of the SEC CCG will probably get the #5 seed. That's the first non-bye seed. They'll be playing that extra game in the playoffs, but it will be a home game against the #12 - almost certainly the highest ranked G5 champion.
There's too much ball to be played for me to start making predictions, but the downside is that Texas could play Georgia three times this season - with only the last game meaning anything.
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That.....is depressing.
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Yeah leave it to droog to rain on the parade.
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It would be .... "amusing"???? if said trio did happen, and say UGA lost the first two and won the last one (or vice versa).
I used to put a lot of emphasis on winning the SEC, it's a thing a team can do without unusual luck or having someone else pick your team for whatever.
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Yeah, if anyone plays anyone 3 times in a season, I'm out. Fuck that noise.
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Who cares about the CG? Alabama has avoided that potential loss and gone on to tout NCs more than once, and nobody even remembers (except me, I guess). UGA lost the CG and nobody remembers or cares, because they won the NC.
Make the playoffs, win a NC. That's the goal. Most people don't remember or care about conference championships anymore. It's a leftover vestige from a bygone era, sort of like my appendix.
Personally, I wish the sport were still regional and CGs were of utmost importance, and NCs were lagniappe and fodder for water cooler conversations. But, that ain't the world we live in.
Very sad, but true.
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The CG does have one point to it, perhaps a very important one. Maybe.
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What bothers me, and not just in college football, is how everyone stands around as if more clicks and eyeballs HAS to be the driving force of everything.
No it doesn't.
We allow it to, for the sole fact that $2 is better than $1. But again, entire industries don't have to be whores to perpetual financial growth.
There is the health and well-being of the industry (game) itself to consider. And no, more money is not always the best thing for the game (industry).
We don't have to be in the back of a vehicle driving out of control with no driver. We (or a head entity) could hop into the driver's seat and steer the vehicle safely forward.
The regular season could matter. Conferences could be regional. "It could, but it won't" isn't helpful. "It could, so it may" is a worthwhile mindset.
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In my experience, money drives everything in life, with very few altruistic exceptions often driven by religion, and striving for recognition, or to absolve some feeling of guilt.
If I can save a couple hundred on a flight by leaving at 10 AM instead of 4 PM, I usually do it. If I can buy a new TV at Costco cheaper than at BestBuy, I go to Costco. It's pretty simple, and obvious, money motivates most human activities and choices.
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so what do folks with a lot of money long for? "I know a guy..." you'll hear "them" say that and say it often.... they like to have things stacked in their favor.
... y'all forgot "Ego".... Ego drives a helluva lot of BS in this world and is gauged by power- power is directly associated with money as if you have it in bundles you have influence over others, and money is clearest path to power. otherwise you better be able to kick the crap out of all comers- which is another way to secure power and satisfy ego.... but that doesn't last long.
This game we watch is all about ego and people are willing to drop coin into it to satisfy that ego's apatite- and then there are the ones exploiting that by collecting the coin... and we blame them instead of the ego's.
i've said over and over to friends and family, and more so lately than before "it always comes down to personality- every problem, every solution, every drop of drama and every sample of good". if you can locate what makes someone tick by feeding their ego- you have immense power over them. likewise, it's best folks don't know what makes you tick.
^helluva place to drop all that... on an SEC message board.
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I think the basic needs are obvious, and cost money in general. I recall someone asking me what my son would be doing that summer, after telling me what their kid was doing. They had just graduated HS. I said my kid was going to a French beach resort in South Carolina, it was neat, they had camp counselors, swimming, exercise, a riflry program, AND they got paid for it! She feigned interest, and had no clue what I meant. Some other friends were in ear shot snickering.
But, you can of course enlist and have your basic needs met, with some downsides at times.
My wife has a very close friend with "money". We've stayed at her place(s) several times, once in Brazil, the others in France. It's interesting to me how many problems she has had in her life despite being "comfortable". Her two boys are adopted and I liked them both, I thought they were fine folks, quite interesting in respects. But we all are going to have "issues" even with a lot of money.
My wife and I, fortunately, don't have "exotic" needs. We have one pretty basic car, we have a pretty nice condo we like a lot, we can pay the bills, and we like to travel. We also donate a decent bit to this and that, something I enjoy being able to do. Travel is our "luxury". I often note if we "won the lottery", I really wouldn't change much of anything except I'd be donating a lot more.
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I'm going to the Army @ Tulsa game Saturday. It's not a sellout. Tickets are dirt cheap. Neither team is ranked; neither will be competitive for the AAC championship. But the day figures to be a nice one, and we can park within easy walking distance of the stadium. I'll have a hot dog and a coke. I plan on having a great time.
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It's "interesting", a bit, that UGA dropped from #2 to #5 in the national polls, which I guess is OK (and not relevant to much but message boards).
I watched parts of the UK-OM game and was impressed with UK. I didn't expect that one obviously. How they could have looked so bad at home against USCe ...
Maybe OM is a poser?
I think we have a top four in some order. Then some pretty good and dangerous teams, and then Vandy. I haven't kept up with whoall else has looked lame.
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So, anything interesting happen in the SEC yesterday?
Also, what a great time to have a bye weekend as a Top 25 team...
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I wonder if CD will let Arkansas back into the SEC after yesterday? :)
And then there was Vandy... Nobody saw that coming for sure! :88:
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OK, Arky can come back in now.
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You have to think about the fact that Alabama has played at an all-time high level for over 15 years. Year after year of either playing for a NC, conference title, 10+ win seasons you had to figure that there has to be a drop off after Saban leaves. For awhile it kinda seemed like Kalen Deboar would keep that train running, and then somehow they lose to Vandy…
Is this a sign that Bama is vulnerable in ways they haven’t been for what seems like decades ? It’s often been said that they do not have NIL in the same capacity as some of the other schools. So they had a championship pipeline, a NFL pipeline, play for the GOAT pipeline.
But was yesterday the beginning of the end?
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Rosterwise, Bama is still elite with talent. The only team close is UGA. That of course doesn't mean they'll always beat lesser teams. But I don't think the loss yesterday was due to any diminution of talent. That might happen in time.
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Rosterwise, Bama is still elite with talent. The only team close is UGA. That of course doesn't mean they'll always beat lesser teams. But I don't think the loss yesterday was due to any diminution of talent. That might happen in time.
If not lack of talent, then bad coaching?
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At times, it's just "luck" basically. Upsets happen, sometimes coaching is an issue, sometimes a team collectively is looking ahead and not working as hard, at times it happens after a huge win and the team sort of relaxes. Usually, in big upset, the loser turned the ball over more than the winner, in this case it was 2-0 including a pick six.
UGA was upset by USCe a few years back when the margin was 4-0 including a pick six.
I view turnovers as random events in most cases. But the underdog needs to play clean and get some breaks in turnover margin.
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Bama obviously has talent, but that team has shown inconsistency the past two weeks.
Ran up a 30-7 halftime lead over UGA, then got outscored 27-3 in the 3rd quarter and most of the 4th quarter. Then went 75 yards on one play and converted the 2-pointer to win by 8.
And then yesterday in Nashville.
Inconsistency can be hard to fix. Where exactly does the problem lie?
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Inconsistency often reflects a coaching problem, I'd guess. Preparation, scheming, toughness, discipline.
I thought the Dawgs were inconsistent under Richt and I think it goes to those issues in that case.
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Bama of course usually throttles the Vandys of the world. There also a few times where they don't play well and win by a less than impressive score, maybe 27-17 or so. That's the kind of game where another couple breaks going to wrong way and they end up losing, but that happens rarely, like when Stanford upset USC as a 40+ point dog.
I saw a few plays in the game and I thought the Vandy OL was "managing" the Bama DL a lot better than usual, so perhaps Vandy is toughened up now. If a team dominates in the lines of course, it's much tougher for them to end up losing even if skill players play badly.
I was musing a bit about throwing. I pitch some, still, in baseball, my arm of course is not great. I can throw a curve and have a changeup that is "OK". But, I'm 60.5 feet away, the catcher is still, and nobody is trying to tackle me. A QB is usually leading a moving target with defensive players both trying to get to him and trying to cover the WR. AND, he's often throwing a much larger ball 30-40 yards, not 20. It's amazing to me really that a completed pass isn't like a 10% percentage play. His target area is a bit larger, but not by that much, and missing it can result in a very bad result, not a walk.
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It’s not really about talent. Talent is only one part of the equation.
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Inconsistency often reflects a coaching problem, I'd guess. Preparation, scheming, toughness, discipline. . . .
I'd guess the same thing.
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It’s not really about talent. Talent is only one part of the equation.
Sure. I mention talent merely to note Bama has not yet fallen off THAT cliff. We see more apparently talented teams lose each week (usually). Sometimes it's just "luck", or probability. The better team would win 8 times in 10, and this was one of the 2s.
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Bama had an ordinary, common letdown after blowing their load in the UGA game. 99% of teams with mortal HCs do it all the time. Saban is the best HC of all time and didn't allow it to happen. He's gone.
Debeor's crime is letting his team do what 99% of everyone does and him not being the best HC ever.
So I guess they should get rid of him, lol.
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Bama had an ordinary, common letdown after blowing their load in the UGA game. 99% of teams with mortal HCs do it all the time. Saban is the best HC of all time and didn't allow it to happen. He's gone.
Debeor's crime is letting his team do what 99% of everyone does and him not being the best HC ever.
So I guess they should get rid of him, lol.
Might as well, it's what we did with Les Miles.
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I was hoping Arkansas and A&M would remain hapless and underperform their talent, so that Ole Miss would be our only loss in October and help our (increasingly un)realistic goal of getting to 9-3. But they both look pretty good when not shooting themselves in the foot. In particular, if Arkansas can turn their yards into points at a better clip, they look like a team that can punch anybody and get away with it.
Heck, even Florida showed signs of life (and let's face it, Mertz was gonna shred LSU's pathetic D no matter what), and even Vanderbilt used a triple option look to light up a far better defense than ours. And there's OU, who hasn't looked great, but is certainly capable of winning.
Suddenly, every game left looks loseable.
Good thing I'm a Longhorn fan now.
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I was hoping Arkansas and A&M would remain hapless and underperform their talent, so that Ole Miss would be our only loss in October and help our (increasingly un)realistic goal of getting to 9-3. But they both look pretty good when not shooting themselves in the foot. In particular, if Arkansas can turn their yards into points at a better clip, they look like a team that can punch anybody and get away with it.
Heck, even Florida showed signs of life (and let's face it, Mertz was gonna shred LSU's pathetic D no matter what), and even Vanderbilt used a triple option look to light up a far better defense than ours. And there's OU, who hasn't looked great, but is certainly capable of winning.
Suddenly, every game left looks loseable.
Good thing I'm a Longhorn fan now.
Geez...LSU got screwed on their schedule. Games left V OM, A&M, Alabama, and OU.
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I was hoping Arkansas and A&M would remain hapless and underperform their talent, so that Ole Miss would be our only loss in October and help our (increasingly un)realistic goal of getting to 9-3. But they both look pretty good when not shooting themselves in the foot. In particular, if Arkansas can turn their yards into points at a better clip, they look like a team that can punch anybody and get away with it.
Heck, even Florida showed signs of life (and let's face it, Mertz was gonna shred LSU's pathetic D no matter what), and even Vanderbilt used a triple option look to light up a far better defense than ours. And there's OU, who hasn't looked great, but is certainly capable of winning.
Suddenly, every game left looks loseable.
Good thing I'm a Longhorn fan now.
Hy, if Saturday taught us anything, it's that even a huge favorite can be upset at any time. So buck up, camper!
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Geez...LSU got screwed on their schedule. Games left V OM, A&M, Alabama, and OU.
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LSU's schedule has been viewed as pretty favorable, avoiding UGA, Texas, and Tennessee, and the toughest teams, Ole Miss and Alabama, having to play in BR. Also, there were no tough conference games early on, allowing the team to reach full potential (lol) before the hardest games get here.
This has been considered a good year for the team to still be rebuilding and aim for 9 wins and grab the 10th with a bowl victory.
Insert opinion here as to whether a team with a third year coach should still be rebuilding...
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I've been amused watching the SEC homer Texas detractors oscillate between telling us every game in the SEC is a slobberknocker of a grind and even bad SEC teams are better than what Texas is used to, to telling us that we got an easy cakewalk of a schedule and that we just don't understand how tough the SEC used to be.
Now that A&M, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt have notched some upsets, it seems to be back to "Texas is going to lose 4-5 games, they really don't understand how tough the SEC is."
I guess we'll see, but the back-breaking contortions utilized by some SEC homers has been quite funny so far this year.
All I'm focused on right now, is our upcoming hate-filled rivalry game with the dirt burglars.
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Texas misses several heavyweights, sure, but with a handful of top teams, that's probably par for the course. It would be unlikely, not to mention a bit unfair, if a team caught all of the tough teams. Texas gets UGA, and then as mentioned, several of the other teams are looking better than previously expected. Then there's the identity property....Texas is one of the teams other teams would prefer to avoid for an easier schedule, and since Texas can't play themselves, they have that much less of a chance of drawing a high number of the "elite" teams, because there's less of them when you are one of them.
Plus there's just a lot of teams in the league now, with only 8 conference games. Everyone misses a lot of other teams. I'm not so sure that the league is less tough than it was, as much as the good teams aren't as likely to show up on any one schedule.
Overall, I look at Texas' schedule similar to LSU's....favorable, but still can't be taken lightly. And since I think UT is a top team, I expect them to perform well against it. Which is what folks should be watching for. Not how good is the league or how many tough teams did UT draw.....rather, how do they do against the schedule they're given.
For LSU, I'd call 9-3 a win. For Texas, I think they can get through with 1 loss or less, and if they do, it's as much a signal of the quality of the team as much or more than a function of the schedule. Besides, if UT makes the SECCG and the playoffs, there'll be that many more tough games to judge the team by. If you do well there, then "they got an easy schedule" won't fly even with the homerest of homers.
Maybe.
One thing worth noting is Texas' schedule is full of old foes, and most everyone understands that throws regular SOS assessments out the window. OU, A&M and Arkansas aren't as good (I think) as Texas, but it should shock absolutely no one if any of them played out of their minds against Texas and either won or gave them all they wanted. It's really not an easy schedule, imo. Favorable, yes. Easy? Well, winning games is hard, so, no.
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I've been amused watching the SEC homer Texas detractors oscillate between telling us every game in the SEC is a slobberknocker of a grind and even bad SEC teams are better than what Texas is used to, to telling us that we got an easy cakewalk of a schedule and that we just don't understand how tough the SEC used to be.
Now that A&M, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt have notched some upsets, it seems to be back to "Texas is going to lose 4-5 games, they really don't understand how tough the SEC is."
I guess we'll see, but the back-breaking contortions utilized by some SEC homers has been quite funny so far this year.
All I'm focused on right now, is our upcoming hate-filled rivalry game with the dirt burglars.
Arkansas looks much improved. Georgia will be tough. OU will be tough as always. And the last game could be an all time barn burner.
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Arkansas looks much improved. Georgia will be tough. OU will be tough as always. And the last game could be an all time barn burner.
Yup, plenty of tough games on the schedule. No different now, than it was 2 months ago before the season, or two years ago when it was announced.
It's tough for any team to go undefeated. Despite his great success, Saban only did it twice. And one of those was a COVID asterisk season.
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We long time SECers are facile at contorting any set of data to fit our notions.
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We long time SECers are facile at contorting any set of data to fit our notions.
True... true. Good point. It'll probably take me years to get the hang of that.
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. . . One thing worth noting is Texas' schedule is full of old foes, and most everyone understands that throws regular SOS assessments out the window. OU, A&M and Arkansas aren't as good (I think) as Texas, but it should shock absolutely no one if any of them played out of their minds against Texas and either won or gave them all they wanted. It's really not an easy schedule, imo. Favorable, yes. Easy? Well, winning games is hard, so, no.
OU is not as good as Texas this year. But being the better team in the RRS has often meant getting outplayed by a fired-up opponent. OU has lost to inferior Texas teams and OU has beaten superior Texas teams.
Neither program ever concedes anything where the RRS is concerned.
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I think a rivalry is defined, in part, as being one where the underdog wins more often than is usually the case.
They also are usually intrastate or with border states, I'd guess ND has an exception with USC. They also usually are nationally significant but not always.
I wonder if betting the "dog" consistently is a winning approach.
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As for how to rank the teams, last weekend of courses threw a wrench into the works. I never know how far to drop a top team when they get upset by a decided dog.
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OU is not as good as Texas this year. But being the better team in the RRS has often meant getting outplayed by a fired-up opponent. OU has lost to inferior Texas teams and OU has beaten superior Texas teams.
Neither program ever concedes anything where the RRS is concerned.
Yup on paper Texas should beat OU.
On paper Texas should have beaten OU last year, too.
And plenty of years when better OU teams lost to inferior Texas teams as well.
I'm expecting a slobberknocker on Saturday.
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Kinda related, Auburn seems to give UGA and Bama problems when the teams appear to be mismatched in talent. The latter is a rivalry game of some note, and the one with UGA is a rivalry game for those fans, not as much of one nationally of course. A lot of teams have one principle rival, OSU-UM etc. I think of UGA's rivals as being Auburn/UF/Tenn.... Tech, in about equal proportions for the first three.
And yes, Texas is favored over OU again this year by about 8 points, which means they will win about 70% of the time based on history. So, it's not by any means near certain.
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I was hoping Arkansas and A&M would remain hapless and underperform their talent, so that Ole Miss would be our only loss in October and help our (increasingly un)realistic goal of getting to 9-3.
In the overreactions of College Football, Texas A&M was largely written off after their Week 1 loss (much like Clemson). But after a few weeks of hard work, look at the Aggies now. Earlier wins over Florida and Arkansas look better by the week. Missouri was mauled. And the remainder of their schedule leading into the Longhorns finale looks favorable for a lasting run into the Top 10.
I wasn't high on A&M rushing out to hire Mike Elko, but you can see his week by week improvements adding up.
ESPN's Matt Barrie had this to say to Finebaum about A&M on his show: "Instead of A&M falling into the trap of celebrity coach again, and style coach again, and winning-the-press-conference coach again, all they did was get a damn good football coach — a blue collar guy that's into the substance. Not the style — he doesn't care about the chains and the celebrity and the glitz and the glamour...and I think ultimately that's going to be what carries Elko and A&M into the future. He's going to recruit a hard-nosed, blue-collar type of player that Jimbo wasn't necessarily going to care about because Jimbo loves star rankings. Mike Elko — he might like talent but he likes guys that're gonna get up there and whoop your ass and we saw it on Saturday."
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Hy, if Saturday taught us anything, it's that even a huge favorite can be upset at any time. So buck up, camper!
Last time Ole Miss came to town, I didn't give LSU much chance of winning that one either. For a quarter and a half I was right, with the Rebs jumping out to a 17-3 lead, before everything changed and the Tigers went on to outscore them 42-3 from there. So I've been wrong about this game before.
Of course, that was largely due to a player on each side of the ball who is no longer with the team. Don't know where the unexpected magic could come from this year, but there's always Hope!*
*she's a recurring character in the SEC Shorts videos.
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I wasn't high on A&M rushing out to hire Mike Elko, but you can see his week by week improvements adding up.
I thought it was a good hire, and if he does well there I won't be surprised.
That said, my track record with coaches I thought would do well at a school has been abysmal for 6-7 years now.
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I wonder if betting the "dog" consistently is a winning approach.
Back when dinosaurs ruled the Earth, I read an article in Playboy about betting on the NFL. (Yes, I looked at the pictures too.)
First of all, said the article, don't bet on college football because it's too unpredictable.
It also said the betting on home dogs in the NFL would win more often than not.
But the Earth has made many trips around the Sun since then.
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Anecdotally, I've found cfb to be far more predictable than the nfl. The disparity in talent is minimal in the pros compared to college, and it's a matter of course to see "better" teams lose to "worse" ones. Cfb seems much more pronounced in its tiers, and usually the "better" team wins.
Alabama/Vandy is hilarious and interesting precisely because it's rare.
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Nobody "rushed" out to hire Elko. Rumors were swirling hard that we were hiring Mike Stoops. I think once the fan reaction was so bleh they pulled the plug on that, kinda like Leach to UTenn a few years ago.
Elko was a known commodity here, he was Jimbo's DC for his first 3-4 years, he left two years ago to take over Duke and has been solid there.
I like Elko a lot, it's been sharply noticed how much better the team has played since he took over from Jimbo. The speculation is that Jimbo has been simply been checked out since the end of the 2020 season, about the time we gave him a blank check for 10 years.
I'm liking the hire so far, we do best IMO with the non-flashy coaches who are defensively minded, who we haven't had since RC was unceremoniously fired after the 2002 season. And, Elko brought in some nice offensive coaches as well. The one area that is vastly improved is the OL. Our previous OL, Steve Addazzio, was considered horrible by many fans. The OL before that was well regarded, I can't recall his name or why he left but it's no secret we couldn't keep a QB healthy under center for 3 straight years.
I think it might have been Jim Turner, who was also the OL coach under Sherman here and coached in the NFL. We also lost our S&C coach back to OU about that time (2021).
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Anecdotally, I've found cfb to be far more predictable than the nfl. The disparity in talent is minimal in the pros compared to college, and it's a matter of course to see "better" teams lose to "worse" ones. Cfb seems much more pronounced in its tiers, and usually the "better" team wins.
Alabama/Vandy is hilarious and interesting precisely because it's rare.
I think I remember that the big point-spreads were part of the problem with betting CFB, per the Playboy article.
I have no personal experience betting on football games.
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There is a very solid relationship between point spreads and odds of the underdog winning. My link no longer works though. Obviously, if someone could beat the "odds" and the vig, they'd keep is quiet and just do it. House money etc.
An 8 point dog wins about 30% of the time.
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How often to underdogs win outright? - Phil Steele (https://philsteele.com/how-often-to-underdogs-win-outright/)
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I think college is easier to bet because they're more prone to letdown games. I don't have the data, but I bet there's many fewer big favorites covering noon games, at least in the SEC. And there may really be something to the 2-timezone thing in the newfangled Big Ten.
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Oh, and Steve Addazio should never coach anything, anywhere.
Tim....John (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzeVXqoJd9Y)
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Agree about Addazio.
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Things that seem to presage am upset, or unusually close game:
Big game the week before
Time zone shift of 3 hours coupled with early/late game on the coast
Underdog has several losses but all close while favorite has all wins but some are shaky
Mobile QB on the dog
Really raucus stadium (you rarely see this in the NFL)
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I think college is easier to bet because they're more prone to letdown games. I don't have the data, but I bet there's many fewer big favorites covering noon games, at least in the SEC. And there may really be something to the 2-timezone thing in the newfangled Big Ten.
Seems like that would make it harder to bet.
But, as I noted above, I do not bet.
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One could view the NFL as "pros" who pretty much play as predicted, without let downs or get ups, while college games can be subject to both, which MIGHT be somewhat predictable. However, every time I see some group of "experts" predicting games, their posted track record ATS is worse than average or average or maybe a game or two ahead of that, more rarely.
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Our previous OL, Steve Addazzio, was considered horrible by many fans.
After Steve Addazio was promoted to OC at Florida in 2009, I remember Gator fans appalled by his one-dimensional play calling. Gator fans were convinced that as Urban Meyer's friend, he was promoted to OC to then set him up for head coaching gigs. Then Addazio moved on to land head coaching gigs all over the place - Temple, Boston College, Colorado State. He must be well liked among ADs and other coaches because he finds jobs right away, but among fans Addazio is never liked.
Here's your ultimate Addazio special:
https://twitter.com/TDISportsClips/status/1844575149816701017
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The scariest thing about UT (Longhorn variety) to me is that they have yet to play a complete game, and yet they just keep blowing people out. Can you imagine what they'd look like without dropped gimme TDs or a QB who is sharp the whole way throughout?
That's not really woulda/shoulda/coulda. I'm talking about things that most teams often get ironed out over the course of a season.
They could be better in the redzone, and sometimes that's a flaw that lingers with a team throughout a season. It's also something a team sometimes cleans up.
They're like a steamroller with a gear that slips and an engine that occasionally sputters. And at the end of the day, they've still rolled 10 tons over their flattened and splattered opponents. I suspect they have yet to play their best ball.....and that is kinda frightening.
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Don't know where the unexpected magic could come from this year, but there's always Hope!*
Somebody remind me not to act like such a pussy next time a superior Ole Miss team comes to town. This is the second time in a row the Rebears entered BR without me having any belief whatsoever in the home team, only to watch them return to their dirty state with broken hearts.
I imagine when they watch the film this week they will collectively feel like they really let LSU off the hook and lost the game more than LSU won it. I imagine the LSU staff will watch the same film and secretly, silently, think the same thing.
I'm good with that.
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Good analogy. Slipping gears probably even more apt than engine sputtering, because the power is always there, it's just not always locked-in, harnessed, and directed.
Obviously for Texas fans, this is a fun team to watch. Even when they're delivering a B/B+ performance which is maybe the best grade I'd give them so far this season, when adjusted for level of opponent.
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Somebody remind me not to act like such a pussy next time a superior Ole Miss team comes to town. This is the second time in a row the Rebears entered BR without me having any belief whatsoever in the home team, only to watch them return to their dirty state with broken hearts.
I imagine when they watch the film this week they will collectively feel like they really let LSU off the hook and lost the game more than LSU won it. I imagine the LSU staff will watch the same film and secretly, silently, think the same thing.
I'm good with that.
It was a fun game, I caught a lot of it. LSU is quietly putting together a nice season. 2-0 in conference and only the Game1 drop to USC in a weird Las Vegas game as a blemish.
Upcoming very winnable games against Arkansas, A&M, and then an Alabama team that looks pretty vulnerable all of a sudden.
No reason to expect doom and gloom IMO.
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The scariest thing about UT (Longhorn variety) to me is that they have yet to play a complete game, and yet they just keep blowing people out. Can you imagine what they'd look like without dropped gimme TDs or a QB who is sharp the whole way throughout?
That's not really woulda/shoulda/coulda. I'm talking about things that most teams often get ironed out over the course of a season.
They could be better in the redzone, and sometimes that's a flaw that lingers with a team throughout a season. It's also something a team sometimes cleans up.
They're like a steamroller with a gear that slips and an engine that occasionally sputters. And at the end of the day, they've still rolled 10 tons over their flattened and splattered opponents. I suspect they have yet to play their best ball.....and that is kinda frightening.
Good analysis, I think.
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Graham Mertz tore his ACL chillin' after a handoff.
So this is a weird result.....now Napier kind of has an out to a poor season - he's having to rely on a FR QB full-time now.
Meh.
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Graham Mertz tore his ACL chillin' after a handoff.
So this is a weird result.....now Napier kind of has an out to a poor season - he's having to rely on a FR QB full-time now.
Meh.
What do you think of Napier? Does he seem snakebit? Bad luck? Out of his league? Terrible? Curious as to your thoughts.
I've been looking forward to the Texas-Florida game, especially since our home-and-home was canceled, but I always prefer playing marquee teams like Florida at full strength.
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What do you think of Napier? Does he seem snakebit? Bad luck? Out of his league? Terrible? Curious as to your thoughts.
I've been looking forward to the Texas-Florida game, especially since our home-and-home was canceled, but I always prefer playing marquee teams like Florida at full strength.
I've learned through the years that great coaches overcome these things. Every coach has challenges with players, injuries. Yes, obviously it affects the outcome overall but why does it seem some teams are just always snakebit (A&M is high on this list in my mind) while others can overcome.
Great example is when Rhett Bomar got caught doing some early NIL work around 2005-6 time period. Kicked off the team. The new QB was not even there to play QB. I forget what position he was recruited for, but I think his name was Paul Thompson or something? Anyways, OU went on to win the Big 12 again.
I think it's also easy to forget that some teams are just so loaded with talent that their 3rd stringers are better than a lot of 1st stringers at other programs that they can absorb these losses. UF should be one of those programs.
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Graham Mertz tore his ACL chillin' after a handoff.
So this is a weird result.....now Napier kind of has an out to a poor season - he's having to rely on a FR QB full-time now.
Meh.
Hopefully, he gets a contract extension and raise out of the deal.
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I've learned through the years that great coaches overcome these things. Every coach has challenges with players, injuries. Yes, obviously it affects the outcome overall but why does it seem some teams are just always snakebit (A&M is high on this list in my mind) while others can overcome.
Great example is when Rhett Bomar got caught doing some early NIL work around 2005-6 time period. Kicked off the team. The new QB was not even there to play QB. I forget what position he was recruited for, but I think his name was Paul Thompson or something? Anyways, OU went on to win the Big 12 again.
I think it's also easy to forget that some teams are just so loaded with talent that their 3rd stringers are better than a lot of 1st stringers at other programs that they can absorb these losses. UF should be one of those programs.
Paul Thompson, out of Leander, TX, was a good athlete with a good arm. He was the backup QB in 2002, 2003, and 2004. (I think he red-shirted the 2002 season.)
He was the starter for the 2005 season opener against TCU. The 2005 Sooners were not up to the standards of the 2000-04 teams. They played poorly and got beaten by TCU. Thompson struggled at QB. The next week, hosting Tulsa, Rhett Bomar, star of Grand Prairie, TX, started, while Thompson switched to WR. He seemed to provide a spark that Thompson hadn't. He started the rest of the year. We went 8-3 after the opening loss, with losses at UCLA and (badly) in the RRS. Bomar had a high jackass quotient, and his stats weren't all that great, but he was---IIRC--the MVP of the Holiday Bowl win over Oregon. He was the presumptive starter looking forward to the 2006 season.
But his pay-for-no-work job was exposed (by a Texas A&M fan or player, I think), and he and a lineman getting the same sweet deal were booted from the program.
Paul Thompson came back to QB the team in 2006, going 11-3, winning the Big 12, but losing to Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl.
I remember the great Scipio Tex on the Shaggy Bevo (?) message board had as his signature something like "Bob Stoops won the Big 12 with some spit, a band-aid, and a Paul Thompson bobble-head doll."
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Paul Thompson, out of Leander, TX, was a good athlete with a good arm. He was the backup QB in 2002, 2003, and 2004. (I think he red-shirted the 2002 season.)
He was the starter for the 2005 season opener against TCU. The 2005 Sooners were not up to the standards of the 2000-04 teams. They played poorly and got beaten by TCU. Thompson struggled at QB. The next week, hosting Tulsa, Rhett Bomar, star of Grand Prairie, TX, started, while Thompson switched to WR. He seemed to provide a spark that Thompson hadn't. He started the rest of the year. We went 8-3 after the opening loss, with losses at UCLA and (badly) in the RRS. Bomar had a high jackass quotient, and his stats weren't all that great, but he was---IIRC--the MVP of the Holiday Bowl win over Oregon. He was the presumptive starter looking forward to the 2006 season.
But his pay-for-no-work job was exposed (by a Texas A&M fan or player, I think), and he and a lineman getting the same sweet deal were booted from the program.
Paul Thompson came back to QB the team in 2006, going 11-3, winning the Big 12, but losing to Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl.
I remember the great Scipio Tex on the Shaggy Bevo (?) message board had as his signature something like "Bob Stoops won the Big 12 with some spit, a band-aid, and a Paul Thompson bobble-head doll."
Thanks for filling in the details. 2006 I think is the year that really hurt for A&M fans, because we were close in a couple of games, and could have won the Big 12, but came up just short. OU being one of the games that really hurt, because we were in position to win and our dumbass coach didn't know how to use our jumbo fullback, Jorvorskie Lane. I think we ended up beating Texas in the last game, 12-7, and knocked them out of the Big 12 CCG, and let OU in.
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I was hoping Arkansas and A&M would remain hapless and underperform their talent, so that Ole Miss would be our only loss in October and help our (increasingly un)realistic goal of getting to 9-3.
After beating Ole Miss (and winning 5 straight), 9-3 is certainly much more realistic for LSU. Win one of their next two, either @Arkansas or @A&M. Then go 3-1 Vs Alabama, @Florida, Vs Vandy, Vs Oklahoma. Certainly doable.
Was looking at other SEC schedules, and 4-2 Oklahoma is at a point where the rest of their conference games could go either way. Would finishing 8-4 amount to a favorable showing for the Sooners for their inaugural season in the SEC? I do, but am not betting Oklahoma's diehards will. They already seem on the fence about Brent Venables, and getting blasted by Texas last Saturday sure doesn't help. Venables is currently 20-12 at Oklahoma.
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I hope they sign Venables to a 20 year contract extension. :)
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The Dawgs could end up 10-2, which is about what I expected. And 9-3 is certainly in the picture. 8-4 would have hay forks out in Athens.
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Bama at Tenn is certainly an interesting test for both teams this weekend. A loss for either, which will happen of course, will be somewhat season ending relative to their hopes. Bama may be weirder than UGA, I'd argue they are.
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I hope they sign Venables to a 20 year contract extension. :)
We gave him a 6-year extension after last season's relative success. I think his buyout is around $44 million. :banghead:
The 2 Co-OCs will be gone at the end of the season, if not earlier than that.
I wouldn't be surprised if our OL coach gets the boot too. He produced great lines in the late 2010s, but he's been coasting the last 3-4 years.
Meanwhile, Dillon Gabriel, the QB who engineered the comeback victory in last year's RRS, who left to make way for the anointed Jackson Arnold, is leading the currently #1-in-all-the-land Oregon Ducks. :banghead:
This is not a case of "not ready for the SEC." It's much worse than that. This year's OU team would be struggling floundering in the Big 12. We barely beat Houston 16-12. It's even possible that we could lose to Maine.
Here's a damning but accurate assessment from Shehan Jeyarajah:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/oklahoma-hired-brent-venables-to-get-sooners-sec-ready-but-theyre-scraping-bottom-of-league-in-debut/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/oklahoma-hired-brent-venables-to-get-sooners-sec-ready-but-theyre-scraping-bottom-of-league-in-debut/)
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Thanks for filling in the details. 2006 I think is the year that really hurt for A&M fans, because we were close in a couple of games, and could have won the Big 12, but came up just short. OU being one of the games that really hurt, because we were in position to win and our dumbass coach didn't know how to use our jumbo fullback, Jorvorskie Lane. I think we ended up beating Texas in the last game, 12-7, and knocked them out of the Big 12 CCG, and let OU in.
My brother and I were at the OU-A&M game in College Station. The Aggie fans we met were great. We got invited to--and attended--yell practice. That game started like it was going to be an OU blowout, but after quickly going up 10-0, we tried and failed to convert an onside kick. The Aggies scored on that possession (a TD, I think) and it was a nail-biter from that point on. Trying to run out the clock with a 17-16 lead, we converted a 4th-down play at about our own 35 to seal the game. Leaving the game, Aggie fans were complementary of Bob Stoops for that 4th-down call. They grumbled that Dennis Franchione would not have made that call.
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So LSU and A&M play this weekend for sole possession of the top SEC ranking.
While most would probably agree UGA and Texas are the best teams in the conference, and maybe a couple others between them and the Tigers/Aggies.
This is such a weird conference now.
I guess it will sort itself out in the end.
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So LSU and A&M play this weekend for sole possession of the top SEC ranking.
While most would probably agree UGA and Texas are the best teams in the conference, and maybe a couple others between them and the Tigers/Aggies.
This is such a weird conference now.
I guess it will sort itself out in the end.
Usually does. But with no divisions and the potential for multiple 1-loss teams at the top, it might not be pretty.
2008 B12 South tie-breaker nightmare comes to mind...
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My GUESS is there will be one one loss team and several (like 3+) two loss teams.
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If Texas' previous luck holds, there'll be a big jumbly mish-mash of numbers and data to dice through. At the end of it, the Oklahoma Sooners will be named SEC champion for reasons.
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Usually does. But with no divisions and the potential for multiple 1-loss teams at the top, it might not be pretty.
2008 B12 South tie-breaker nightmare comes to mind...
2010 for A&M.
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If Texas' previous luck holds, there'll be a big jumbly mish-mash of numbers and data to dice through. At the end of it, the Oklahoma Sooners will be named SEC champion for reasons.
Too soon!
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Somebody remind me not to act like such a pussy next time a superior Ole Miss team comes to town. This is the second time in a row the Rebears entered BR without me having any belief whatsoever in the home team, only to watch them return to their dirty state with broken hearts.
After beating Ole Miss (and winning 5 straight), 9-3 is certainly much more realistic for LSU. Win one of their next two, either @Arkansas or @A&M. Then go 3-1 Vs Alabama, @Florida, Vs Vandy, Vs Oklahoma. Certainly doable.
After losing to USC to open the season in Vegas, I was wrong to write LSU off. Not only has LSU won six straight since, but their last two wins were over strong opponents I figured the Tigers were more likely to lose. LSU deserves their Top 10 ranking.
Rest of LSU's schedule is still an uphill climb. To start the season, I never would've counted on Oklahoma becoming the easiest out left:
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They are such a flawed team, it's tough to evaluate them as top 10 quality. The coaching is there, overall, I think. The pieces--particularly defensive talent--just aren't. Defense is playing so much better than last year and early this year. But there's a definite ceiling due to this not being a Tiger D of "vintage" personnel.
The offense is there in fits and starts. Run game was nonexistent and that makes life hard, but it's showed signs of life lately. Passing game is pretty good, but Nussmeier definitely has a lot of first year starter decisions. Settling for FGs in the RZ is a recurring issue.
I dunno.....just not what I consider a top 10 team, but they do appear to be heading toward maxing out the available talent. Which is of course not nearly as much as UGA, UT, Bama, etc.
Also, I didn't realize we play Vandy this year. Poop.
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They are such a flawed team, it's tough to evaluate them as top 10 quality. The coaching is there, overall, I think. The pieces--particularly defensive talent--just aren't. Defense is playing so much better than last year and early this year. But there's a definite ceiling due to this not being a Tiger D of "vintage" personnel.
The offense is there in fits and starts. Run game was nonexistent and that makes life hard, but it's showed signs of life lately. Passing game is pretty good, but Nussmeier definitely has a lot of first year starter decisions. Settling for FGs in the RZ is a recurring issue.
I dunno.....just not what I consider a top 10 team, but they do appear to be heading toward maxing out the available talent. Which is of course not nearly as much as UGA, UT, Bama, etc.
Also, I didn't realize we play Vandy this year. Poop.
I think we're the only ones with a Vandy curse.
Well, maybe Alabama now, too.
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Every team I've watched this year in the SEC has "issues" at times, major inconsistencies, flailing on offense at times, looking sad on defence at others.
Texas had been looking more consistent until recently. The thing is, they are all flawed and "anything can happen" is in full force. You can see this more easily with your own team I think (I can), and maybe not notice as much with others.
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LSU fans were really venting at Brian Kelly last night after losing to Texas A&M. Do they never take a step back and realize losses like these are sometimes due, and in the more open SEC format, the season is still quite navigable?
I thought LSU outplayed Texas A&M well into the 3rd Q. The Tigers secondary locked down A&M's passing game, the receivers were lethal, OL blocked mostly well for Nussmeier, but couldn't get a running game going. All in all, LSU looked well prepared for a tough road game - credit Kelly? The three untimely turnovers didn't help, but what ultimately tripped up LSU were matters nearly impossible to prepare for - things like the blown FG, which I thought triggered momentum Texas A&M's way. And with that momentum shift, Texas A&M was able to use a sudden QB change w/ Marcel Reed as a secret weapon that noticeably caught LSU's defense off guard and fooled LSU's coaches.
Unlike the raging LSU fans across social media last night, I don't blame Brian Kelly; his staff has done a great job righting the season, winning 6 straight after losing their Vegas opener to USC. And though out-coached last night by an excellent A&M staff, LSU did well in a position of disadvantage for much of the game. Both sides took advantage of each other's mistakes (like breakdowns in the Aggie secondary) and as the game went along A&M had one or two more late chances to capitalize than LSU.
LSU plays Alabama at home in two more weeks; win and all the hysterics will die down again. So predictable.
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LSU plays Alabama at home in two more weeks; win and all the hysterics will die down again. So predictable.
Not ALL the hysterics, it would merely shift to another fan base. And then some.
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Yeah, when's the last time Alabama lost three regular-season games? Gotta go way back I imagine.
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Since 2008, Alabama has lost multiple regular season games only three times (2010, 2019 and 2022), and this is the earliest in a season the Crimson Tide has lost multiple games since Nick Saban's first season in 2007.
The last time Alabama lost three games in one season was back in 2010, in Nick Saban's fourth season as head coach.
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SEC Championship scenarios: Sorting out Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, LSU and Texas A&M mess (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/longformarticle/sec-championship-scenarios-sorting-out-the-georgia-texas-tennessee-lsu-and-texas-am-mess-239116142/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGUf4ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXyWuHsg6_z-pTpQXe2fccYWISOzhbwJcVp8It-j13MlAsH3jbBWSBsFLw_aem_4Tgfyh5yOBg-Ud8TSLT38w)
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Bottom line is that we only need to beat Auburn to setup a huge showdown with Texas for a spot. Texas still faces a decent Florida, Kentucky, and Arkansas. I think Florida has a decent chance of winning, but it’s in Austin. Arkansas is in Fayetteville.
It’s been ages since A&M and UT played for anything other than bragging rights. By my count, the 1995 game was the last time, which Texas won at Kyle and won the last SWC. I think there were several games in the 80’s that had championship implications, but it was before my time.
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It is very likely the winner of A&M Texas goes to ATL.
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Tenn and UGA play. One of those will have 2 losses.
A&M and UT play. One of us will have 2 losses. A&M only has a struggling Auburn left. Not taking them for granted. Strange things happen on the plains.
LSU has Alabama, OU, and Florida left. I wouldn’t want that schedule. OU and Florida are dangerous. Alabama is deadly. When is the last time Alabama had 3 conference losses in a season?
Texas has Florida, Arkansas, and Kentucky left.
It will be a wild finish for the season.
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UGA also plays at Ole Miss this Saturday which I think is far from a "gimme", they are 3-4 point favorites. Getting by Florida even ugly was a good thing for them.
I'm guessing Carson Beck may go into "safe mode" and not throw much of anything thay isn't completely open.
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UGA also plays at Ole Miss this Saturday which I think is far from a "gimme", they are 3-4 point favorites. Getting by Florida even ugly was a good thing for them.
I'm guessing Carson Beck may go into "safe mode" and not throw much of anything thay isn't completely open.
I completely expect Smart to give Kiffin the "what for".
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Aaron Murray has a recent video called "What's Wrong With Carson Beck?" But I haven't watched it, so I don't know what's wrong with him, other than missing Bowers.
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Take Texas and the 21.5 spread vs Florida. There's no rational way we score with the 3rd-string QB.
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Aaron Murray has a recent video called "What's Wrong With Carson Beck?" But I haven't watched it, so I don't know what's wrong with him, other than missing Bowers.
I watched half of it, he didn't really say much of note.
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Take Texas and the 21.5 spread vs Florida. There's no rational way we score with the 3rd-string QB.
I think it depends on which version of Ewers shows up. More of what we've seen lately could make Florida more competitive.
And UF overall does seem to be playing better lately.
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Since those are overall records I guess he's talking about the playoff rather than the SEC CCG?
And for the playoff, it's possible the SEC could get 5 teams in, so all but one of the above would be admitted, perhaps...
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(https://i.imgur.com/4jZcnlx.png)
sit back and watch the playoff selection committee do its job according to the playoff selection rules
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sit back and watch the playoff selection committee do its job according to the playoff selection rules
I think the conundrum is which teams would make the CG.
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LSU already has 3 losses, not 2, and does not belong anywhere near the playoffs or SECCG.
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It's more correct to say those teams could all have 2 conference losses making the decision about CG teams complicated.
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Those back rooms aren't all closed down, even in this day and age. Some deals would get made.