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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Gigem on August 30, 2024, 02:25:58 PM
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As the title states.
I’m sure I could find the answers on the internet, but I prefer our discussions.
So, for example, how did they track the years BEFORE the whole AD calendar thingy. I do know the calendar has been changed over time, and I’m not under any impression that they knew it was x,xxx BC.
I’m obviously referring to Western Civilization. Lets narrow it down to Roman’s.
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How can a door be a jar?
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If it’s not a road and it’s not an island why do they call it Rhode Island?
I’ll stop now😎
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Why does sour cream have an expiration date?
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As the title states.
I’m sure I could find the answers on the internet, but I prefer our discussions.
So, for example, how did they track the years BEFORE the whole AD calendar thingy. I do know the calendar has been changed over time, and I’m not under any impression that they knew it was x,xxx BC.
I’m obviously referring to Western Civilization. Lets narrow it down to Roman’s.
Without looking it up (the spirit of this thread) I know the Japanese and I think the Romans also used years of the Emperor or King's reign. So if @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) became emperor of the B1G board by slaying a dragon or whatever on August 30, 2024 the rest of 2024 would still be named for the prior Emperor (I think they stuck to Emperor in place at beginning of year) but then January 1, 2025 would be January 1 of the first year of the reign of @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) .
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Without looking it up (the spirit of this thread) I know the Japanese and I think the Romans also used years of the Emperor or King's reign. So if @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) became emperor of the B1G board by slaying a dragon or whatever on August 30, 2024 the rest of 2024 would still be named for the prior Emperor (I think they stuck to Emperor in place at beginning of year) but then January 1, 2025 would be January 1 of the first year of the reign of @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) .
What are you saying?
Asking for a friend.
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As the title states.
I’m sure I could find the answers on the internet, but I prefer our discussions.
So, for example, how did they track the years BEFORE the whole AD calendar thingy. I do know the calendar has been changed over time, and I’m not under any impression that they knew it was x,xxx BC.
I’m obviously referring to Western Civilization. Lets narrow it down to Roman’s.
I googled it and it took me to Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_era
Looks like a lot of different options. The Greeks did it based upon the date of the first Olympics. It seems like the Romans had multiple at different times in their history, one being related to a taxation cycle, others related to the founding of Rome and to the periods of rule of various emporers, etc. Essentially they all had a system, but it wasn't uniform across civilizations (and like the Romans show, not always uniform across their own over time.)
Various non-Western civilizations had ways described there. They reference the Assyrians who named each year based upon an annual festival they held. And it's not like they did this because they didn't have a numerical system--apparently they had a base 60 numerical system and it appears to be the reason today that we base time on a 60-second minute, a 60-minute hour, and that we divide a circle into 360 degrees. All from a civilization that existed ~5,000 years ago.
Fun stuff.
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The concept of time has always fascinated me. Obviously, it pre-dates the Romans.
Egyptians had a concept. Mesopotamia relied on astrology. Pretty sure the early civilizations in Central Africa did not have a concept.
As for the Romans, they used a solar calendar. That much I know.
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Does a straw have one or two holes?
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One.
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Why do we drive on parkways, but we park on driveways?
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How young can you die of old age?
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The names of months is interesting, of course September should mean the seventh month, as once it did, before July and August were added, named for Julius and Augustus Caesar. I've read that the 1912 Russian Olympic team showed up two weeks late because they were using the wrong calendar, the old one, that kept getting further and further off of the seasons.
The days of the week are named for Norse gods.
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I've read that the 1912 Russian Olympic team showed up two weeks late because they were using the wrong calendar, the old one, that kept getting further and further off of the seasons.
This is due to the switch from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar.
The principal change was that leap years were reduced from every fourth year to . . . not quite every fourth year as defined below:
- Every year evenly divisible by four is a leap year except that
- Years that are also evenly divisible by 100 are not leap years except that
- Years that are evenly divisible by 400 ARE leap years.
Thus:
- 1896 WAS a leap year (divisible by 4)
- 1900 was NOT a leap year (divisible by 4 but also divisible by 100)
- 2000 WAS a leap year (divisible by 400).
When the Romans made the Julian Calendar they approximated a year as 365.25 days so they made a 365 day year and added a leap year every fourth year. It actually takes the earth 365.2422 days to revolve around the sun so one leap year every four years is a little too much.
The problem it caused was that the timing of various festivals and religious holidays was slowly creeping seasonally. The old (Julian) calendar was off by approximately one day every century. The new (Gregorian) calendar is still not QUITE exact but it is only off by one day approximately every 7,700 years.
Interesting trivia about adoption:
The Gregorian Calendar is so named in honor of Pope Gregory who was Pontiff in Rome when it was first adopted in 1582. However, adoption took many centuries. England and the Nordic countries were some of the last in Europe to adopt it for the rather obvious reason that they were NOT Catholic and therefore wanted nothing to do with a Catholic calendar named for a Pope. Thus it wasn't adopted in England (and also British Colonial America) until 1752. Consequently, if you google George Washington you will find that he was born on either February 11, 1731 or February 22, 1732. When he was born it was recorded as occurring on February 11, 1731 but the English adoption of the new calendar (they didn't and still don't officially call it the 'Gregorian Calendar') they moved the start of the year from March 25 to January 1 and lopped fast-forwarded 11 days.
Interesting (to me anyway) trivia question:
What happened in France on the dates from December 10, 1582 through December 19, 1582 inclusive?
Answer:
Absolutely nothing. Nobody was born, nobody died, there were no wars, there weren't even any strikes or riots. When they adopted the Gregorian Calendar they had to advance so December 9 was followed immediately by December 20.
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What are you saying?
Asking for a friend.
That I, Gigem, First of his name and King Of The Andals shall rule this board from Henceforth. To wit, today is the First Day of the Year Gigem I.
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I’m not under any impression that they knew it was x,xxx BC.
I love the idea of this. Subtracting years as time progresses.
What year is it?
298 BC
Before what?
Dunno.
Hmmph. Is there a game on TV?
What's that?
Nevermind.
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The names of months is interesting, of course September should mean the seventh month, as once it did, before July and August were added, named for Julius and Augustus Caesar. I've read that the 1912 Russian Olympic team showed up two weeks late because they were using the wrong calendar, the old one, that kept getting further and further off of the seasons.
The days of the week are named for Norse gods.
Then later they transformed Sunday into a day to worship the Son instead of the Sun.
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Do Lipton employees take coffee breaks?
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This is a dad joke thread and the force is strong with this group.
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stoopid thread
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Do you know the way to San Jose?
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Time is a fascinating concept with no real definition, other than being another dimension, like up and down, one into which we are locked. It's in most physical laws as a thing, and yet we cannot define it.
What is "spooky action at a distance" for $200, Ralph?
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Time is a fascinating concept with no real definition, other than being another dimension, like up and down, one into which we are locked. It's in most physical laws as a thing, and yet we cannot define it.
What is "spooky action at a distance" for $200, Ralph?
Quantum entanglement, if I understand it correctly. Quite weird.
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Why are there SO many shopping channels on my feed? (DirecTV). There must be over 100.
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It forces you to set up your channel list.
Just block everything but sports, movies, music, skinemax, and the news channel that most coincides with your world view.
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I believe the Romans had a calender that went back to the founding of Rome, with Romulus and Remus, and that was about 750 years before Christ was believed to be born. So Augustus was emporer around the year 750 according to the Roman calender.
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The week has 7 days because Ancient people would look up into the sky and see 7 objects that did not move like the regular stars in the sky. These 7 objects were given the names of 7 Roman gods and each was assigned a day in a regular 7-day rotation.
The Sun (Sunday)
The Moon (Monday)
Mars (Tuesday)
Mercury (Wednesday)
Jupiter (Thursday)
Venus (Friday)
Saturn (Saturday)
When the Germans and Scandinavians and eventually the Anglo-saxons adopted the 7 day week, they substituted their own gods for 4 of the days.
Mars Day became Tiw's Day or Tuesday. Named after the German God of War.
Mercury Day became Oden's Day, or Wednesday
Jupiter Day became Thor's Day, or Thursday.
Venus Day became Freya Day or Friday.
Sunday (Sun) , Monday (Moon) & Saturday (Saturn) stayed loyal to the original objects in the sky they were named after.
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Why did kamikaze piliot's wear helmets?
(There is an answer.)
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Around 5000 years ago, Sumerians, who lived in ancient Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq), revolutionized how we perceive and measure time. They developed a sophisticated numerical system based on the number 60, known as the sexagesimal system. This unique system led to the division of an hour into 60 minutes and a minute into 60 seconds, concepts that are still in use today.
Sumerians' need for precise timekeeping was driven by their agricultural society. Accurate calendars were essential for planting and harvesting crops. They also needed to coordinate their complex religious ceremonies and administrative activities.
To aid their timekeeping, the Sumerians made significant advancements in astronomy. They observed the movements of celestial bodies and used this knowledge to create a lunar calendar with 12 months, which closely aligned with the agricultural seasons.
The division of the day into 24 hours, each hour into 60 minutes, and each minute into 60 seconds was a monumental achievement. These divisions were not arbitrary but were designed to be practical and easily divisible, reflecting the Sumerians' advanced understanding of mathematics.
This innovative approach to time had a profound impact on later civilizations, including the Babylonians, Greeks, and Romans, who adopted and further developed the Sumerian system. The legacy of the Sumerians' timekeeping system is evident in our modern clocks and calendars, demonstrating the enduring influence of their ingenuity on our daily lives.
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This isn't the weird history thread
If you were going to shoot a mime, would you use a silencer?
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OK, I get that we are not allowed to use the internet to look up answers, but can we use it to check our spelling?
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Why? none of these learn-ed men notice
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OK I have a stupid question.
In baseball, if nobody is on base, and there are less than 2 strikes, does a catcher need to actually sit behind the plate to catch the pitch?
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- Position
The catcher must be behind home plate in the catcher's box.
- Leaving the box
The catcher can leave the box to make a play or catch a pitch, except when the batter is being given an intentional base on balls.
- Intentional base on balls
When the batter is given an intentional base on balls, the catcher must stay in the box with both feet until the ball is released by the pitcher. This is sometimes called a "catcher's balk", though it's not an official term.
- Blocking the runner
The catcher can't block the runner's path to the plate unless they have the ball. If the umpire thinks the catcher violated this rule, the runner can be called safe. However, blocking the runner to receive a throw is not considered a violation.
(https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/baseball-diamond-shot-night-catchers-260nw-49828789.jpg)
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Thanks.
Can somebody explain what is an official assist in basketball? What counts and doesn't count as an assist?
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Going back to the time question, there were obviously clocks before trains. It was the advent of train travel in the 1800s, at least in the United States, that evolved in us a uniform system of time, with time zones. People needed to know when to go to the train station to catch the train, or meet their loved ones.
I had no idea the Sumerians 5,000 years ago developed a system for measuring time. But, how could they measure it? Did a village time keeper count 0-60 all day, and announce the time?
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Going back to the time question, there were obviously clocks before trains. It was the advent of train travel in the 1800s, at least in the United States, that evolved in us a uniform system of time, with time zones. People needed to know when to go to the train station to catch the train, or meet their loved ones.
I had no idea the Sumerians 5,000 years ago developed a system for measuring time. But, how could they measure it? Did a village time keeper count 0-60 all day, and announce the time?
It was more to do with train safety is my understanding. At one time, every town kept their own time. Then when trains came along, they found themselves heading in opposite directions on the same track, often with disastrous results. In the past, it hardly mattered if one towns time was 15-20 minutes different from the next.
A few minutes mattered when the need arose to keep trains from colliding.
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What bowl is Florida going to?
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It was more to do with train safety is my understanding. At one time, every town kept their own time. Then when trains came along, they found themselves heading in opposite directions on the same track, often with disastrous results. In the past, it hardly mattered if one towns time was 15-20 minutes different from the next.
A few minutes mattered when the need arose to keep trains from colliding.
Did they have sidetracks in the 1880s? I remember taking Amtrak when I was 16, circa 1973, Dubuque to Chicago, with my 19-year old cousin, to watch the White Sox. I just wanted to take the train because I knew the train service to Chicago would come to an end, but it took longer to end than I had thought ... I think train service ended in the early 1980s. On this ride I learned about side-tracks. We pulled over on a side-track and waited several times for freight trains to pass. Now Amtrak passenger trains get priority over freight trains, but that wasn't the case in the early days of Amtrak.
You triggered a childhood memory. I also recall dad boarding a train in East Dubuque, Illinois in the mid to late 1960s for some type of business trip to Milwaukee a time or two, before Amtrak. It was on the Milwaukee Line. I was about 10. I recall the train station luggage cart trolleys with sacks of U.S. Mail that landed at the East Dubuque train station. Bringing back a memory tonight, I wish I could ask him why he was boarding a train for Milwaukee, but he left us in 2023. Maybe mom can fill in some of that information. She just turned 90.
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What bowl is Florida going to?
Remember when FSU and Florida were great and we thought those days would never end? Umm.
https://youtu.be/fXSyCPongjA
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Remember when FSU and Florida were great and we thought those days would never end? Umm.
and Miami
the state of Florida owned college football and there was nothing anyone could do about it
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Did they have sidetracks in the 1880s? I remember taking Amtrak when I was 16, circa 1973, Dubuque to Chicago, with my 19-year old cousin, to watch the White Sox. I just wanted to take the train because I knew the train service to Chicago would come to an end, but it took longer to end than I had thought ... I think train service ended in the early 1980s. On this ride I learned about side-tracks. We pulled over on a side-track and waited several times for freight trains to pass. Now Amtrak passenger trains get priority over freight trains, but that wasn't the case in the early days of Amtrak.
You triggered a childhood memory. I also recall dad boarding a train in East Dubuque, Illinois in the mid to late 1960s for some type of business trip to Milwaukee a time or two, before Amtrak. It was on the Milwaukee Line. I was about 10. I recall the train station luggage cart trolleys with sacks of U.S. Mail that landed at the East Dubuque train station. Bringing back a memory tonight, I wish I could ask him why he was boarding a train for Milwaukee, but he left us in 2023. Maybe mom can fill in some of that information. She just turned 90.
I'm sure they had side tracks....in places. But you'd have to be at the right side track at the right time to make any kind of sense. But I'm DEFINITELY not some kind of 1800's train expert.
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and Miami
the state of Florida owned college football and there was nothing anyone could do about it
It's human nature to have this perception of permanence. Tons of examples of this, this is good one w state of Florida football. I always love pointing to top 10 largest companies (market cap). I think we have one in the top 10 that was there 20 years ago. Microsoft.
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and Miami
the state of Florida owned college football and there was nothing anyone could do about it
From '83 to '96, 6 NCs in 14 years.
From '99 to '13, 5 NCs in 15 years.
One state.
Vastly homegrown rosters.
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Ok, this one is really stupid, but I’m just going to throw it out there.
What is a fox? Is it a type of canine? Is it simply a dog that has evolved differently, or is it a completely different type of animal? I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in real life, mostly on movies and cartoons. They seem to get a lot of attention via logos and stuff. I have no idea why.
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Used to see them all the time up North. Beautiful animal (think, wow, she's a fox, which is now more like wow, she's hot).
Fox - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox)
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I still see them occasionally
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
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I've never seen that one
and not clicking on it now
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If God dropped acid, would he see people?
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Well, I looked it up, and Foxes are in the canidae family, of which dogs are also a part of.
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Between The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, there have been a combined 49 seasons.
Of those, only 8 couples are still together. Of THOSE, only 4 couples are currently married.
Why does anyone continue to watch this shit given that it doesn't actually work?
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Between The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, there have been a combined 49 seasons.
Of those, only 8 couples are still together. Of THOSE, only 4 couples are currently married.
Why does anyone continue to watch this shit given that it doesn't actually work?
People watched Survivor, but I think everyone always survived
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I don't watch any of that shit
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How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered?
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How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered?
I think it has more to do with the motive of the killer than the actual level of importance of the victim.
Ie, if a POTUS was killed by a romantic rival, that is a murder.
If a small town Councilman was killed by a political rival, that is an assassination.
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my character has been assassinated a few times
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Why is there "Smart Questions" thread?
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Who won the debate?
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Who won the debate?
Me, because I watched the Netflix show about Vince McMahon instead
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I watched the Braves get shut out, again. After a season last year with record output, this year they couldn't hit their weight.
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what debate???
I watched MLB wildcard action
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A political "debate", to me, is like watching an hour plus of some political ads on TV. I'd pay money NOT to watch.
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I went to a Doobie/Santana tribute show.
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I rented “TRAP” on pay per view. Twisted, but a good October Movie.
An M. Night Shyamalan movie.
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I rented “TRAP” on pay per view. Twisted, but a good October Movie.
An M. Night Shyamalan movie.
Ooh I'd like to see that. The middle child starting to be into scary movies, so always keeping a list on tap
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I watched the Braves get shut out, again. After a season last year with record output, this year they couldn't hit their weight.
Maybe you shouldn't be giving out pointers at your training camp
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I have a 65" 1 K TV now. It's probably ten years old. I was gandering at an 85" in Costco for $999, which I can afford. I think it wasn't all the bells and whistles, but it was a nice looking picture. My problem is I don't really want to get into installing it, which I surmise I could pay to have done.
On the other hand, my old TV looks just fine.
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Ooh I'd like to see that. The middle child starting to be into scary movies, so always keeping a list on tap
Tis the season HALLOWEEN
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Maybe you shouldn't be giving out pointers at your training camp
The "funny" thing is Bret Seitz was our team's coach, for a few days anyway. He's hitting coach for the Braves. I think we ruined him.
He's a pretty neat guy. He had to leave a couple days early for knee surgery, but he's apparently back this coming season. I'm going to kid him about it.
I used to hit pretty well in camp, but I think my eyesight has fallen to where I can't much any more, I have an appt with an opth Monday. He may say I have cataracts, whereupon I'll say "No, have Rincon Continentar".
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The "funny" thing is Bret Seitz was our team's coach, for a few days anyway. He's hitting coach for the Braves. I think we ruined him.
He's a pretty neat guy. He had to leave a couple days early for knee surgery, but he's apparently back this coming season.
That settles it I'm coming down there next camp and share all of the Bob Eucker hitting tips I've cached
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I have a 65" 1 K TV now. It's probably ten years old. I was gandering at an 85" in Costco for $999, which I can afford. I think it wasn't all the bells and whistles, but it was a nice looking picture. My problem is I don't really want to get into installing it, which I surmise I could pay to have done.
On the other hand, my old TV looks just fine.
$999 is my limit for New TVs
nothin wrong with my 65" either and I worry the 85" won't sit on the cabinet.
Don't really want to mount it on the wall
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What disease did cured ham actually have?
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You can sugar cure it, you can salt cure it, you can smokr cure it ... I guess that's about it.
It's the other white meat.
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Watch out if you're looking at OLED TVs, they can exhibit signs of burn-in within a few months.
If you're truly mixing media then it shouldn't be an issue but if, for example, you're watching a lot of ESPN, which just about always has a news crawl at the bottom, then it's pretty much inevitable.
The manufacturers are saying this isn't so, but they're not testing under the right circumstances. We're testing out new OLED Displays at work and for folks that constantly have static images on their screens, like for example a specific spreadsheet they use all the time, the burn in is definitely happening.
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Thanks @utee94 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15) -- that's good to know.
Another reason NOT to come home from Costco with a new TV as I keep telling my wife might happen :57:
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Thanks @utee94 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15) -- that's good to know.
Another reason NOT to come home from Costco with a new TV as I keep telling my wife might happen :57:
There are nice non-OLED TVs on the market and they're cheaper!
Don't get me wrong, OLED yields a beautiful picture and if you're not spending a LOT of time on the same image (like a permanent news crawl) then it should be okay.
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OLED TV burn-in: Why you no longer need to worry - Reviewed (usatoday.com) (https://reviewed.usatoday.com/televisions/features/most-oleds-have-built-measures-prevent-burn)
Maybe.
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OLED TV burn-in: Why you no longer need to worry - Reviewed (usatoday.com) (https://reviewed.usatoday.com/televisions/features/most-oleds-have-built-measures-prevent-burn)
Maybe.
Yeah I read that before I posted. Like I said, they're not testing all the right conditions. We're seeing it on our 1st article displays, that are using the exact same glass and technology as the major TV manufacturers.
But it doesn't occur if you're truly watching mixed media all the time.
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Don't underrate the operating system cpu, especially if you go through a lot of apps. Most of our TV's were TCL Roku's that we got from Costco. They are getting kind of old and slow, may have to upgrade. I did buy an LG relatively recently, and found their OS very cluttered and annoying.
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Don't underrate the operating system cpu, especially if you go through a lot of apps. Most of our TV's were TCL Roku's that we got from Costco. They are getting kind of old and slow, may have to upgrade. I did buy an LG relatively recently, and found their OS very cluttered and annoying.
I go with Samsung for TV's and have since 2008. They are really good.
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I loathe the LG native streaming interface. Samsung is slightly better. My favorite by far is the Roku interface, but admittedly I don't have any experience with Amazon firestick.
So far no issues with the Roku interfaces on TVs that are 4-5 years old.
Oh and the AppleTV interface was complete dog crap.
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I go with Samsung for TV's and have since 2008. They are really good.
Agree Samsung TVs are excellent. Their native streaming interface is not that great (although better than LG).
I got so fed up with our Samsung interface that I just bought a Roku device and plugged it into the HDMI input.
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Agree Samsung TVs are excellent. Their native streaming interface is not that great (although better than LG).
I got so fed up with our Samsung interface that I just bought a Roku device and plugged it into the HDMI input.
I've never used those. Always had cable or a stick (and an antenna for hurricanes).
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We have 2 Samsung TVs (One QLED and a newer OLED). I loved the interface on the older one, but the newer one is a bit annoying. We also have an LG tv that is maybe 5 or 6 yrs old. That interface is horrible.
However, we were at a friends house Saturday and they have a new LG tv with an interface similar to the older one that we have. They wanted to watch the Buckeyes and needed to install the Peacock app. They are very technically challenged and asked if I could help them. On my Samsung TV's, it is very simple to install an app. On that LG, it took me 20 mins of going through menu options until I found where I could select the Peacock app and install. That interface is crap.
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I've never used those. Always had cable or a stick (and an antenna for hurricanes).
Yup I've still got an antenna from our tailgating days. We'd sometimes bring 3 TVs and our Dish network setup could only drive 2 independently so we'd put the 3rd on straight OTA. Haven't had a reason to use it lately but you should always Be Prepared.
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I just purchased a new TV today for use in hurricane season, actually.
24" Vizio. Nothing fancy needed. $85 on Amazon.
I suppose I could use it on Saturdays to show a secondary game on the lanai.
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These are not stupid questions.
Other Newsworthy stuff.
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OLED TV burn-in: Why you no longer need to worry - Reviewed (usatoday.com) (https://reviewed.usatoday.com/televisions/features/most-oleds-have-built-measures-prevent-burn)
Maybe.
Yeah I read that before I posted. Like I said, they're not testing all the right conditions. We're seeing it on our 1st article displays, that are using the exact same glass and technology as the major TV manufacturers.
But it doesn't occur if you're truly watching mixed media all the time.
Even tech writers often aren't that knowledgeable about what they write about.
Our corporate PR team passed along a product review of one of our products to some of us today just for informational purposes. It belied a complete misunderstanding of what some product ratings mean and how they should be used/interpreted. That misunderstanding being common amongst tech writers, and having shown up in another review two years ago, I wrote a white paper about it to explain what these things ACTUALLY mean. It's one of the pieces I've put together that I'm most proud of; I took the time to write it because while industry insiders understand this stuff, literally NOBODY that I'd ever seen had tackled the subject publicly. (As an aside, another white paper that I'm really proud of will drop in the next week or so...)
But why would a tech writer read a document and learn something rather than just spout off when they clearly think they know it all already?
We've got a lot of folks here on this message board who are experts in various fields. But we need to avoid running into the Gell-Mann Amnesia (https://www.epsilontheory.com/gell-mann-amnesia/) effect believing some random journalist is more of an expert than the guy actually involved with the real field:
"Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
– Michael Crichton (1942-2008)
I trust @utee94 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15) 's expert opinion as someone actually involved in doing the testing/work much more than anyone writing for USA Today.
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Don't underrate the operating system cpu, especially if you go through a lot of apps. Most of our TV's were TCL Roku's that we got from Costco. They are getting kind of old and slow, may have to upgrade. I did buy an LG relatively recently, and found their OS very cluttered and annoying.
This is critical. A couple years back I bought some bargain-basement Black Friday TVs for the kids rooms. Holy crap they're terrible. It's not the screen quality or the sound quality; it's the system interface electronics. Don't know if it's just too weak of a processor, or not enough RAM, shoddily-written firmware, or whatever. I wish I'd bought something better and just spent up for it.
I loathe the LG native streaming interface. Samsung is slightly better. My favorite by far is the Roku interface, but admittedly I don't have any experience with Amazon firestick.
So far no issues with the Roku interfaces on TVs that are 4-5 years old.
Oh and the AppleTV interface was complete dog crap.
I also like Roku and use them. One piece of advice is that the higher-end Roku (currently called Ultra? at ~$100) is a better option to spend up and buy than the cheaper Express or Stick.
Again it comes down to processor and RAM IMHO. If you're going to be using it often, sluggish electronics will be a significant drag on the user experience over time. Better to spend more for less aggravation.
And agree re: AppleTV. The interface sucks and I HATE HATE HATE their remote. Too fancy with that touchpad. Can't we just have some damn buttons, Apple? We have one on one TV, but that TV almost never gets turned on so I just live with it instead of replacing.
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I trust @utee94 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15) 's expert opinion as someone actually involved in doing the testing/work much more than anyone writing for USA Today.
Already then lay off those West Coast IPAs for starters
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$999 is my limit for New TVs
nothin wrong with my 65" either and I worry the 85" won't sit on the cabinet.
Don't really want to mount it on the wall
I have a 75" that is about 8-9 years old. Problem is the operating system is no longer supported by a number of the apps, so I know have a FireTV stick attached to it to watch TV. I keep thinking I should get a new larger tv, but still kind of waiting for the tv to just die.
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What bowl is Florida going to?
Ooo, four more wins with that schedule? :o
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I really like Roku, bought them for both daughters years ago and they both still use them
I have a firestick and it works fine
using the TV interface seems like it could be an issue more often than not
fire sticks and rokus are in expensive, even for a tight wad like me
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Why is "bra" singular and "panties" plural?
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My TV is a 65 LG 1 K unit about ten years old. It seems to work fine, for me. The prices on new ones has really come down, I glance at them in Costco (as they intend me to). My wife even offered to get one for me for Christmas, and cheap me thinks "Nah, the old one works OK, and I'd have to spent time mounting the new larger one.".
I don't use Roku, or Apple, or NF. We had NF for a time and that was OK but then they tightened up the family sharing gig. I get Amazon on it, I rarely find anything there to watch. I spend some time with youtube, just the regular videos, some of which are quite good. I'm interested in tanks and the Tank Museum has some nice ones on WW 2 and later tanks.
The French term for "tank" is "char" and the German term is "Panzer". The English term has a funny origin most of you know.
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Why is "bra" singular and "panties" plural?
Well "panties" refer to an article of clothing that would be related to the term "pants" or "pantaloons", which generally is referred to as a "pair" because it covers both legs. Even panties or briefs, which are underwear and don't extend down the legs, are referred to in the plural because of this history.
That said, it's not universal. My wife get's mailers from Victoria's Secret and it often refers to free panty promotions.
"Bra" is short for "brassiere", which is referring to a singular article of clothing that doesn't have the same history--despite the fact that it's supporting a pair... I personally prefer the German word, stoppemfromfloppen, myself.
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Why did I find her unusually attractive?
(https://i.imgur.com/2BhLx8c.png)
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Why did I find her unusually attractive?
(https://i.imgur.com/2BhLx8c.png)
That is not a stupid question 😂
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Well "panties" refer to an article of clothing that would be related to the term "pants" or "pantaloons", which generally is referred to as a "pair" because it covers both legs. Even panties or briefs, which are underwear and don't extend down the legs, are referred to in the plural because of this history.
That said, it's not universal. My wife get's mailers from Victoria's Secret and it often refers to free panty promotions.
"Bra" is short for "brassiere", which is referring to a singular article of clothing that doesn't have the same history--despite the fact that it's supporting a pair... I personally prefer the German word, stoppemfromfloppen, myself.
Thank You Mr Clavin,you should prefer to remove them being binding and all
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Why did I find her unusually attractive?
[img width=363.994 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/2BhLx8c.png[/img]
one of my fav movies of all-time
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What's with the trend in football to replace the term "Red Zone" with "Red Area"?
I get things like "Red River Shootout" becoming the "Red River Rivalry", for obvious reasons.
But is there a negative connotation to "Red Zone" that I'm unaware of?
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What's with the trend in football to replace the term "Red Zone" with "Red Area"?
I get things like "Red River Shootout" becoming the "Red River Rivalry", for obvious reasons.
But is there a negative connotation to "Red Zone" that I'm unaware of?
I don't recall hearing this. Is it NFL or college where you've heard it?
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I don't recall hearing this. Is it NFL or college where you've heard it?
Been heavier in NFL, I think... But it's not universal--I know I've heard NFL commentators still using Red Zone.
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Been heavier in NFL, I think... But it's not universal--I know I've heard NFL commentators still using Red Zone.
If you can’t admit to the wokeness I will call the 2 minute timeout on you.
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Did someone buy the phrase? Maybe a beer company or gambling site? The Cardinals' end zones are called the Red Zone - but the seating areas.
Idk.
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Been heavier in NFL, I think... But it's not universal--I know I've heard NFL commentators still using Red Zone.
Hmmm I haven't heard it, that I can recall, but I also haven't watched much NFL. Really just Cowboys games, and half the time, that just means watching the first quarter until the rout is on.
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Cowboys can't find the red zone
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I was watching a film clip about B-17 bombers in formation and wondering if the gunners ever hit another bomber by mistake.
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I was watching a film clip about B-17 bombers in formation and wondering if the gunners ever hit another bomber by mistake.
Wasn't there a scene from a movie where just exactly that happened? Maybe "Memphis Belle" or one like it? I remember the guy asked if he could do some shooting ( he was not a gunner normally), he got in there and got carried away and sliced through another bomber flying by them.
I'd guess that flying in formation required certain kinds of training and technique to try and minimize that from happening.
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Why do people pay to go up tall buildings and then put money in binoculars to look at things on the ground? :017:
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I was watching a film clip about B-17 bombers in formation and wondering if the gunners ever hit another bomber by mistake.
friendly fire - absolutely,Luftwaffe fighter pilots used the bomber squadron’s inability to turn while in box formation to make high-speed strafing attacks. They would scream right thru the formations spraying bullets toward the entire squadron increased their chances of getting multiple hits all the while getting in and out fast and avoiding lingering around which was riskier.
In the meantime Flying Fortress gunners where twisting/turning/contorting like crazy and some sprayed each other. There is a well known video of B-17 formations dropping bombs but the bombers right below them were not staggered properly and a bomb ripped right thru a wing below and immediately that B-17 dropped into spiral.Either way, both fighters and bombers scored many kills on each other despite their tactics and counter tactics.
All of this in '43 before the Mustang started it's escort service.
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What exactly is the Iran Nuclear deal all about? I've heard it mentioned so much, but I have no idea what it is, and no news story will describe what it is either.
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Are you supposed to wear long underwear over top of regular underwear?
Or does the long underwear already check all the underwear boxes on it's own, as the name would suggest?
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If electricity comes from electrons, where does morality come from?
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I always wore reg underwear under my long underwear but I'd guess it's over kill
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only permissable when ice fishing,they're very stylish collective.Surpassed perhaps only by keglers
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you need to sit in a deer stand a little longer
or ride the snowmobile after dark in the middle of no where
or a mile hike into the wind after the bar closes
They're not just for ice fishing anymore
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I've spent alot of time in deer stands,caught up on some sleep.That cold can put you to sleep
Okay how come most women don’t know where to look when they’re eating a banana?
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What exactly is the Iran Nuclear deal all about? I've heard it mentioned so much, but I have no idea what it is, and no news story will describe what it is either.
What is the status of Iran's nuclear programme and the JCPOA? - House of Commons Library
(https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9870/)Basically, Iran had agreed to limits on uranium enrichment and UN inspections in return for sanctions relief. The "deal" is really not much of a deal at this point. The original deal would end in October of next year.
Of course, the higher yield nuclear weapons are based on plutonium, not uranium.
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How are Soap Operas still on air?
I remember these as a rugrat when my Mom had to leave us siblings for an afternoon here and there, and our babysitters might flip on something like Young & Restless or Bold & Beautiful or General Hospital as mostly background noise.
At this point maybe their only usefulness is filler for daytime TV blocks? Where the advertising money for detergent or margarine will keep coming in because those brands have sponsored Bold & Beautiful since the 1980s?
The traditional audience has aged and any potential new audience has gone to work. My generation of women who'd otherwise watch General Hospital don't stay home and thus are not captive to Soap Operas.
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How are Soap Operas still on air?
I remember these as a rugrat when my Mom had to leave us siblings for an afternoon here and there, and our babysitters might flip on something like Young & Restless or Bold & Beautiful or General Hospital as mostly background noise.
At this point maybe their only usefulness is filler for daytime TV blocks? Where the advertising money for detergent or margarine will keep coming in because those brands have sponsored Bold & Beautiful since the 1980s?
The traditional audience has aged and any potential new audience has gone to work. My generation of women who'd otherwise watch General Hospital don't stay home and thus are not captive to Soap Operas.
The soap opera time slot is a great time to go grocery shopping in these parts.
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hah, I know college kids that watch that crap regularly
I've heard stories of weird folks that believe that stuff is REAL, not Hollywood
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How are Soap Operas still on air?
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The traditional audience has aged and any potential new audience has gone to work. My generation of women who'd otherwise watch General Hospital don't stay home and thus are not captive to Soap Operas.
Simple. Enough people are still watching them to sell ads.
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same as crap bowl games
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How are Soap Operas still on air?
Simple. Enough people are still watching them to sell ads.
Oddly enough, I believe this is half true. People are not watching these programs but these programs are nevertheless still selling high priced ads.
Or more precisely, steady viewership is in measurable decline but the ad streams for these shows have not yet to follow the decline in viewership. How can this be?
I’m thinking of Late Night TV (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/late-night-tv-downsizing-1235997584/) as I think through this, but the viewership numbers going into 2024 for Jimmy Kimmel (1.7M), Stephen Colbert (2.5M), and Jimmy Fallon (1.4M) do not justify their salaries ($15M for each), or their production costs. Nor does Good Morning America bring in the ratings to justify paying co-host George Stephanopoulos over $15M, for example. However, in watching these shows, a supermajority of their ads are for prescriptions (“Ask your Doctor about Skyrizi…Lyrica…Dupixent…”).
In any given year about a dozen different prescription brands each spend over $100M in the U.S. on specifically National Television advertisements. Skyrizi and Dupixent each spent over $500 in 2023 across all categories of advertising. Since 2021, prescription drug advertising spending has reached $7B annually. So is Big Pharma single-handedly propping up Late Night TV? That volume of ad investment will bankroll the bloated salaries of Late Night hosts, Soap Opera production costs, and more.
What the Pharmaceuticals are willing to pay for advertising is outdated but maybe that’s because the audience they are aiming to reach is also outdated? Boomers are the largest age demographic left watching Linear TV as well as the largest age demographic using prescriptions, to the extent that perhaps the Pharmaceuticals, an industry which has money to burn, are willing to overpay (?) to advertise on shows despite steadily declining viewership, though not as steeply for Boomers.
The drop in overall viewership across Linear TV has yet to be followed by a corresponding drop in advertising spending, which has yet to be followed by a corresponding drop in the salaries of TV talent, though it appears the day is nearing (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13931087/Americas-popular-TV-stars-notice-industry-warned-major-shakeup.html).
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Do you know why they are called soap operas?
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Do you know why they are called soap operas?
Yes
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Ralphie got his mouth washed out by half the advertisers
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Do you know why they are called soap operas?
This is the "no stupid questions" thread.
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What the Pharmaceuticals are willing to pay for advertising is outdated but maybe that’s because the audience they are aiming to reach is also outdated? Boomers are the largest age demographic left watching Linear TV as well as the largest age demographic using prescriptions, to the extent that perhaps the Pharmaceuticals, an industry which has money to burn, are willing to overpay (?) to advertise on shows despite steadily declining viewership, though not as steeply for Boomers.
It's why PGA Tour golf is so valuable as a TV property despite having ratings that are FAR below most other sports. Because the demographic that DOES watch is very, very sought after.
And you can tell from the commercials... The broadcasts are propped up by ads from financial/corporate services firms and boner pills / pharma.
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and it's a live event
no fun watching later and skippin through the commercials
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Ralphie got his mouth washed out by half the advertisers
Ralphie is a COW!!!
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This is the "no stupid questions" thread.
So, no questions here are stupid? Is that a stupid question? Is this? Is this? What about this?
I chuckle when people say "Can I ask you a question?"....
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hah, what a set up
do you really want my answer?
I'm a pot stirrin, sarcastic, smart ass!
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I could have put this in the weather / climate thread, but I think it would make more sense here.
Logically (to me, anyway), it seems like the hottest portion of the year should be centered around the longest day of the year (Jun 21 in northern hemisphere), and that the coldest portion of the year should be centered around the shortest day of the year (Dec 21).
But there's about a 1-2 month lag. The hottest months of the year are Jul/Aug, and the coldest months of the year are Jan/Feb.
Why?
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Jet stream patterns, I'd guess.
This is about the time of year where Canada gives us their f'ing air masses and they do it for 2 months.
We should nuke 'em.
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hell, let's just make them the 51st state
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I've heard that somewhere.
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Jet stream patterns, I'd guess.
This is about the time of year where Canada gives us their f'ing air masses and they do it for 2 months.
We should nuke 'em.
You're a sun bellied rebel now so quit your bitching I've been their guest too many times and they shared exceptional Beer along with fresh fish.And their prevailing winds have made for some good ice fishing also. Oh and there's Monique, i vote to take out chicago,leave the italian beef & vienna sausage stands,museums,The Cubby Bear Lounge,Goose Ilsand Brewery & Old Style Vendors
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Why do "we" care so much about how some team comprised of players we do not know fares in some "game"?
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Stoopid question
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Stock buybacks and paying dividends both accomplish the same thing: increasing value / returning value to shareholders. Dividends do so directly via direct payment, whereas stock buybacks do so indirectly via increased share price.
So why is it that stock buybacks are suddenly evil and everyone hates them, but dividends get a pass?
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There is a lot I don't understand about stock buybacks, but at a glance it feels like a bad long term strategy for the investor, good for the company. If so, maybe that's why people don't like it?
I haven't heard about stock buyback outrage, and I'm probably wrong about the long-term implications anyway. No stupid questions, but there are stupid answers.
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One of these needs to be banned
(https://i.imgur.com/TKKt2w2.jpeg)
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So …how does this whole Gulf of America thing work? I mean, countries change their name sometimes…like Rhodesia, for example. I’m sure there’s lots of others.
So do we just start updating all our maps and the like and tell Mexico to F off, and roll on with it, or is there some kind of governing body, etc? I’m kinda thinking it’s more like a gentleman’s agreement, and if everybody else calls it the GoA, it will be the GoA.
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Why are Pop Tarts still a thing?
I mean, they are absolutely disgusting. I understand why junk food is popular; it tastes good. Pop Tarts IMHO have no redeeming taste properties at all.
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So …how does this whole Gulf of America thing work? I mean, countries change their name sometimes…like Rhodesia, for example. I’m sure there’s lots of others.
So do we just start updating all our maps and the like and tell Mexico to F off, and roll on with it, or is there some kind of governing body, etc? I’m kinda thinking it’s more like a gentleman’s agreement, and if everybody else calls it the GoA, it will be the GoA.
Meh. People generally just call it "The Gulf". Gulf Shrimp, Gulf oysters, Gulf Grouper, etc.
I hear "we're headed out to the Gulf today" a lot.
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Why are Pop Tarts still a thing?
I mean, they are absolutely disgusting. I understand why junk food is popular; it tastes good. Pop Tarts IMHO have no redeeming taste properties at all.
do you also yell at the neighbor kids to get off your lawn
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Meh. People generally just call it "The Gulf". Gulf Shrimp, Gulf oysters, Gulf Grouper, etc.
I hear "we're headed out to the Gulf today" a lot.
Having been raised in Galveston I can tell you that youre correct nobody refers to it in its full name form
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So …how does this whole Gulf of America thing work? I mean, countries change their name sometimes…like Rhodesia, for example. I’m sure there’s lots of others.
So do we just start updating all our maps and the like and tell Mexico to F off, and roll on with it, or is there some kind of governing body, etc? I’m kinda thinking it’s more like a gentleman’s agreement, and if everybody else calls it the GoA, it will be the GoA.
Only statement I've seen on this that made any sense and could be true is that the name change was to sidestep the EPA law which banned offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. So if it's changed to Gulf of America, it gets around the laws prohibiting the offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
Would love to hear the feedback from the legal guys here if that's even a reality. Would be interesting if that's possible.
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just get Google maps to change it - done!
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One of these needs to be banned
(https://i.imgur.com/TKKt2w2.jpeg)
Is that a friggen silencer on a shotgun??? Part of the fun of shooting them was to hear them roar
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https://twitter.com/wildtiktokss/status/1907700107320963407