It would be wise to not overlook Fresno. Always feisty with a chip on their shoulders.agreed. but when you have a huge game like Texas the very next week, sometimes it's tough to get 18-21 year olds to stay on track and just go one week at a time.
(https://i.imgur.com/GGmpf10.png)is this official? I was under the impression that Michigan doesn't release depth charts....
is this official? I was under the impression that Michigan doesn't release depth charts....Not official but useful.
Not official but useful.got it. my guess is they will be playing LOT of EDGE and secondary guys to try and see if someone separates and figure out the depth there.
Fresno State doesn't even have a coachHe's 1-0. Coached the bowl game last season.
He's 1-0. Coached the bowl game last season.But Tedford came back, and then left again, correct? He's still just the interim
Fresno is not a stateNeither is Ball.
Michigan DT Mason Graham ‘banged up,’ Benny ‘knocking off some rust’Not a bad “ backup” for the best DT in CFB.
https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/2024/08/michigan-dt-mason-graham-banged-up-benny-knocking-off-some-rust.html (https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/2024/08/michigan-dt-mason-graham-banged-up-benny-knocking-off-some-rust.html)
Neither is Ball.I always thought that was the Native American name for Indiana.
Fresno State doesn't even have a coachWill Michigan?
Will Michigan?:043:
:043:I was obviously joking about Michigan's coach with regard to this weekend since we all know that the NCAA moves at a glacial pace but, per the NCAA:
this you or nubbz?
https://twitter.com/anthonytbroome/status/1828404410755449212
accurate....we don't envy unethical conduct.
https://twitter.com/DNPSportsShow/status/1827826256412324286
(https://media.tenor.com/t3Ax8dB9VrUAAAAM/britney-spears-so-obsessed.gif)Michigan cheated, not deniable.
(https://media.tenor.com/XkhO42YtCGUAAAAM/station19-jack-gibson.gif)Your point is . . . not proven.
all I gotta say is Ohio State better beat Michigan and win the Natty this year- for the mental health and well-being of that entire state. Columbus is going to be lit on fire and resemble Tim Walz' Minnesota circa BLM riots and there are going to be lot of wives/girlfriends bearing the brunt of the wrath of homicidal/suicidal Bucknutjobs if Ryan Day chokes up another season after spending $20 mil in the portal to buy a 'chip.
(https://media.tenor.com/XkhO42YtCGUAAAAM/station19-jack-gibson.gif)What's this year have to do with 3 of your coaches getting fired and Booger getting out of dodge ahead of the posse. Sherrone deleting text messages - Let me guess his I phone storage was running low at the exact time the Stallions story broke
all I gotta say is Ohio State better beat Michigan and win the Natty this year- for the mental health and well-being of that entire state. Columbus is going to be lit on fire and resemble Tim Walz' Minnesota circa BLM riots and there are going to be lot of wives/girlfriends bearing the brunt of the wrath of homicidal/suicidal Bucknutjobs if Ryan Day chokes up another season after spending $20 mil in the portal to buy a 'chip.
(https://c.tenor.com/5_87Xk-e6D8AAAAC/tenor.gif)Are you seriously bragging about ill-gotten gains?
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| Date | Opponent (record) | Result | Score | Site | |
| 11/30/2019 | @ | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2019) (9-4) | W | 56 | 27 |
| 11/24/2018 | vs. | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2018) (10-3) | W | 62 | 39 |
| 11/25/2017 | @ | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2017) (8-5) | W | 31 | 20 |
| 11/26/2016 | vs. | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2016) (10-3) | W | 30 | 27 |
| 11/28/2015 | @ | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2015) (10-3) | W | 42 | 13 |
| 11/29/2014 | vs. | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2014) (5-7) | W | 42 | 28 |
| 11/30/2013 | @ | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2013) (7-6) | W | 42 | 41 |
| 11/24/2012 | vs. | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2012) (8-5) | W | 26 | 21 |
| Date | Opponent (record) | Result | Score | Site | |
| 11/21/2009 | @ | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2009) (5-7) | W | 21 | 10 |
| 11/22/2008 | vs. | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2008) (3-9) | W | 42 | 7 |
| 11/17/2007 | @ | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2007) (9-4) | W | 14 | 3 |
| 11/18/2006 | vs. | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2006) (11-2) | W | 42 | 39 |
| 11/19/2005 | @ | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2005) (7-5) | W | 25 | 21 |
| 11/20/2004 | vs. | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2004) (9-3) | W | 37 | 21 |
| 11/22/2003 | @ | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2003) (10-3) | L | 21 | 35 |
| 11/23/2002 | vs. | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2002) (10-3) | W | 14 | 9 |
| 11/24/2001 | @ | *Michigan (http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Michigan.htm#2001) (8-4) | W | 26 | 20 |
Your point is . . . not proven.He owns it. He doesn't care that Michigan cheated. I personally think he celebrates it, just like he celebrates Michigan sticking up middle fingers to the NCAA and saying "yeah, I dare you to do something about it, Poindexter!"
Calling fans of ethical programs "nutjobs" doesn't prove anything.
You root for a dirty, unethical program. Deal with it. Own it.
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(https://i.giphy.com/3DE8eBtxSQsKc.webp)LoL, not crying.
He owns it. He doesn't care that Michigan cheated. I personally think he celebrates it, just like he celebrates Michigan sticking up middle fingers to the NCAA and saying "yeah, I dare you to do something about it, Poindexter!"I think you are right but it just shocks me that people could celebrate it.
You're arguing with him as if he actually cares more about winning within the rules than he cares about winning.
This is him owning it.
Nothing matters to him but it being his team holding the trophy.
How about Michigan during the John Cooper years?Yeah, that sucked. Those 13 years were rough but I think you are familiar with that since the 20 years that came after that were a LOT worse for you than those 13 years were for me.
| Site | First Meeting | Last Meeting | Games | Win % | Wins | Losses | Ties | Average Score | |
| Any | 1988 | 2000 | 13 | 0.192 | 2 | 10 | 1 | 16.92 | 22.92 |
| Home | 1988 | 2000 | 7 | 0.357 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 20.71 | 19.43 |
| Away | 1989 | 1999 | 6 | 0.000 | 0 | 6 | 12.50 | 27.00 |
| Site | First Meeting | Last Meeting | Games | Win % | Wins | Losses | Ties | Average Score | |
| Any | 2001 | 2019 | 19 | 0.895 | 17 | 2 | 33.89 | 22.53 | |
| Home | 2002 | 2018 | 9 | 1.000 | 9 | 0 | 36.89 | 22.00 | |
| Away | 2001 | 2019 | 10 | 0.800 | 8 | 2 | 31.20 | 23.00 |
I think you are right but it just shocks me that people could celebrate it.Really? After all that Mdot has said on this message board over the years, you're shocked by anything from him at this point?
‘Anybody, anytime, anywhere’: Fresno State coach Tim Skipper talks ‘hostile’ environment at The Big House, Michigan QB situation, more (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/anybody-anytime-anywhere-fresno-state-coach-tim-skipper-talks-hostile-environment-at-the-big-house-michigan-qb-situation-more/ar-AA1pwMqC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=d8bce638e5184a72a8b8000fbc65dbbb&ei=11)Big House ain't that hostile an environment. it's louder than it used to be after the renovations, but the way it's built a lot of the sound escapes.
Really? After all that Mdot has said on this message board over the years, you're shocked by anything from him at this point?:043: That bent ivermectin lovin' bastage
It sucked when my team only won twice and tied once in 13 years. I bet it sucked worse when your team only won twice with no ties in 20 years.ew,that left a mark
Really? After all that Mdot has said on this message board over the years, you're shocked by anything from him at this point?That is a fair point but there are other fans of that dirty cheating program on here.
It sucked when my team only won twice and tied once in 13 years. I bet it sucked worse when your team only won twice with no ties in 20 years.
ew,that left a markThey are clinging to Cooper because the Cooper era is the exception. Other than that there are no prolonged periods of dominance by their side since leather helmets:
That is a fair point but there are other fans of that dirty cheating program on here.Yeah but I think most of them weaseled out with more of the "we don't know who knows, and how far up it goes, so we're not going to accept that it was anything other than a rogue actor until we have a check from Harbaugh to Stalions written in Harbaugh's blood and it's tested for DNA" response.
yup, unless the wins are vacated by the NCAA or the conference........... they countThe NCAA can't vacate the championship. They don't control it.
yup,FIFYunlessuntil the wins are vacated by the NCAA or the conference........... they count
FIFYhate to break it to you princess, but nothing is going to be vacated. even Urban's buttboy/ballwasher Pete Thameltoe who knows infinitely more about this situation and the details of it from a to z- than the pathetic obsessed Ohio State psychopath bucknutjobs on the internets- the guy broke this entire story and got the NOA draft right from the NCAA and is a mouthpiece for said shitbag organization says so....
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(https://i.imgur.com/da0QEMh.png)the precedent is explained in that entire paragraph that you just selectively clipped...Thameltoe spelled it out- the NCAA drops the hammer when dealing with player eligibility issues....players being paid/compensated, getting impermissible benefits, or being academically ineligible and still participating in games. That isn't the case here and it's not really going to be a thing going forward because: YAY NIL.
I don't know of ANY history or past precedent similar to this.
this wasn't like stealing the 3rd base coach's signs
Seven Michigan coaches committed level 1 violations.keep whistling past the grave yardReminds me of one of @MaximumSam (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1572) 's clients. When the trial concluded the client had to step out of the room and didn't hear the verdict being read. The client came back and asked Max what happened. Max told him that justice was served. The client said . . .
You can't spell "ILLEGITIMATE CHAMPION" without "MICHIGAN"
So let me get this straight.. NCAA is idiotic in every facet of college football the last few years, EXCEPT their accusations and description of the Michigan situation is spot-on and pretty much einstein-esque?NCAA is still idiotic and I'll add glacially slow. It took them almost a year from EVERYONE who follows CFB knowing that the University of Michigan had a paid Football Coach on the sidelines of a CMU/MSU game in clear violation of NCAA rules to get a NOA out.
Sounds like fans that became spoiled by their team grasping at straws and can't dealing with losing.
Reminds me of one of @MaximumSam (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1572) 's clients.Even though it's a parable in a round about way you're lumping him in with the weasels. The season is upon us so there'll be no more of that :cheer:
No doubt without Stalions Michigan would not have put 297 yards rushing on the Buckeyes in 2021. LOLIs it your assertion that Michigan was so incompetent that their rampant cheating provided them no benefit?
And then some of them "well the second half of the season there was no Stalions and they still won it all so obviously it wasn't THAT much of an advantage" excuse.
Is it your assertion that Michigan was so incompetent that their rampant cheating provided them no benefit?
We'll put you down for this category:
As to Michigan's rushing, they were a good rushing team in 2021 and Ohio State's defense was suspect to put it mildly so Michigan's rushing for 297 isn't shocking. What WAS shocking was them holding Ohio State's National #1 Offense to just 458 yards and 27 points. I'm sure you think that knowing the plays in advance due to rampant cheating had no impact there.
No.. mine is that many coaches have already acknowledged teams trying to steal opposing signs has been common for a long time.. ya know, the reason Oregon started using placards 12 years ago. Did he cross a line being on the sideline at CMU? probably.. but was his impact removed the remainder of 2023 after the story hit? Absolutely and if you can't admit that, your take isn't reasonable, which it hasn't been.
Yours is:
"Hey look, a squirrel".
Watch the 2021 game again. Not so shocking. Neither is the 2022 game where Edwards had 216 yards rushing.I already said Michigan rushing for whatever it was in 2021 wasn't shocking. Their holding tOSU's #1 offense was the shocking part and obviously knowing tOSU's plays due to rampant cheating was a part of that.
Yeah.. Michigan only beat OSU last year because of Stallions. Keep grasping.If the Connor Stallions thing was some Buckeye Board rumor then "grasping" would be a legit criticism.
Did he cross a line being on the sideline at CMU? probably..Probably? Seriously? You guys really do live in a bubble. That wasn't a "probable" crossing of a line. It was a bright line violation of the rules, as the NCAA put it, it and the scheme that it was a part of were "premeditated" and "deliberate" and "violated the principles of honesty and sportsmanship".
Your whole fanbase is absolute trash.
Honest question for Michigan fans with kids ( @SuperMario (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1596) ):
When you tell your kids not to lie, how do you explain the exception for lying to get an advantage when you are sick-and-tired of losing to Ohio State for twenty years?
https://twitter.com/VernFunquistCFB/status/1828455471025442884?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1828455471025442884%7Ctwgr%5E071a2a8bed364fdca1215e3fa365373f28e99f27%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fvernfunquistcfb%2Fstatus%2F1828455471025442884%3Fs%3D46yeah or you could also just say that's his record once one of the two or three greatest college football coaches in history...Urban Meyer left Ohio State and Jeem found himself a real life OMERG FIVE STARZ 'croot QB JJ McCarthy, a guy who has lost I think two or three games in total as a starting QB since his sophomore year in high school and just went in the top 10 picks of an NFL draft. Look at his QB's before JJ. It's a whose who list of absolute mediocrity or worse.
Is it your assertion that Michigan was so incompetent that their rampant cheating provided them no benefit?hey pal, it's called line of scrimmage. 458 yards is a lot of yards. 27 points isn't, but in that game when you RUN THE BALL FOR 300 YARDS AND PRESSURE THE QB WITH A PAIR OF ELITE 1st RD EDGE RUSHERS you're going to a) control the clock and TOS limiting the other teams offensive opportunities and b) hurry up the QB and get his timing just a tad bit off.
We'll put you down for this category:
As to Michigan's rushing, they were a good rushing team in 2021 and Ohio State's defense was suspect to put it mildly so Michigan's rushing for 297 isn't shocking. What WAS shocking was them holding Ohio State's National #1 Offense to just 458 yards and 27 points. I'm sure you think that knowing the plays in advance due to rampant cheating had no impact there.
Well that might explain a win or two against Ohio State, but not the other 38. And it's not like the 26 losses in the "Before" column all came against the Buckeyes. As I recall, they came against errrrrrbody. :)Are we just going to ignore the talent difference from Michigan 5 years ago to the last couple years? As a fan, i thought it was clear as day different, especially at QB, RB and defensive line and LB.
Are we just going to ignore the talent difference from Michigan 5 years ago to the last couple years? As a fan, i thought it was clear as day different, especially at QB, RB and defensive line and LB.Didn't look like it against TCU, I wonder why?
Since there seems to be a rampant outbreak of amnesia amongst the Michigan faithful. Let us bring up the timeline of the questionable conduct and misrepresentation there of. Notice that is from ESPN and Yahoo not from Buckeye/Spartan Message Boards trying to COPE!the same amnesia that hits people when OSU and Catapult is discussed? Sounds like the same type that only remembers free tattoos and gold pants when OSU was found to have many many players on payroll of NE Ohio construction companies.. Odd Tressel knew the owner of the one out of Independence, OH very well.
2023 Michigan timeline:
Jan. 19: Yahoo Sports and ESPN report that an attempt to expedite Michigan's NCAA infractions case fell apart because Harbaugh refused to acknowledge during multiple meetings with NCAA officials that he lied or misled investigators.
Jan. 20: Michigan fires co-offensive coordinator Matt Weiss after it says he failed to attend a meeting to discuss whether he gained unauthorized access to computer accounts assigned to other people in December 2022.
May 20: Glenn "Shemy" Schembechler, son of legendary Wolverines coach Bo Schembechler, resigns three days after he was hired as the football program's assistant director of football recruiting.
Oct. 18: The NCAA notifies the Big Ten and Michigan that it had received allegations the Wolverines were involved in a sign-stealing scheme and had allegedly sent representatives to games to scout future opponents, which has been prohibited by NCAA rules since 1994. The Big Ten said it had notified Michigan's future opponents of the allegations.
Oct. 19: ESPN reports that Connor Stalions, a Wolverines off-field analyst and retired captain in the U.S. Marine Corps, is at the center of the NCAA's investigation into alleged sign stealing. Sources told ESPN that NCAA enforcement staff sought access to Stalions' computer. Michigan announced the next day that it had suspended Stalions with pay pending the conclusion of the investigation.
Oct. 23: ESPN reports that Stalions purchased tickets in his own name for more than 30 games at 11 Big Ten schools over the past three seasons (A 12th school later added that Stalions had purchased tickets at its stadium as well). In many cases, Stallions forwarded the tickets he bought to at least three people in different parts of the country. The scope of the alleged sign-stealing operation included video evidence of electronics prohibited by the NCAA to steal signs and a significant paper trail, sources told ESPN.
Oct. 26: University of Michigan deputy chief Melissa Overton confirms the FBI has joined the department's investigation into Weiss' alleged unauthorized access into others' computer accounts. Overton called the investigation "extensive, ongoing and ... of the utmost priority."
Oct. 27: A former Division III player and assistant coach tells ESPN's Dan Murphy that Stalions paid him "a couple hundred dollars" and provided him with a ticket to a Michigan home game to record future Wolverines opponents.
Oct. 31: Central Michigan announces that it is investigating photographs of a man who resembled Stalions standing on its sideline during the Sept. 1 opener at Michigan State.The man, dressed in Central Michigan gear and standing with several of the team's coaches, was wearing a bench credential. Photos obtained by ESPN showed a man wearing sunglasses -- during a night game -- and holding a possible play sheet. "We obviously are aware of a picture floating around with the sign-stealer guy," Chippewas coach Jim McElwain said.
Nov. 3: Stallions resigns from his position at Michigan, Sources told ESPN that Stalions did not attend a scheduled meeting with Michigan officials, possibly on advice of counsel. Sources were unsure whether he will cooperate with the NCAA investigation.
Nov. 17: Michigan announced Friday that linebackers coach Chris Partridge has been relieved of his duties effective immediately. The announcement comes a day after Michigan said it was dropping its legal case against the Big Ten and that coach Jim Harbaugh would serve his three-game suspension levied by the conference. A source told ESPN that Partridge's firing stemmed from his lack of cooperation with the NCAA investigation.
Jan 19, 2024: Jim Harbaugh is seeking to have an immunity clause added to his contract. Specifically Harbaugh wants to include a provision that would grant him immunity from termination from any finding that could arise from the current NCAA investigation into the Michigan football program. Furthermore, he seeks to prohibit the athletic director from firing him “for cause” and leave that type of decision to a three-member arbitration panel.
4 staff members - fired/resigned in the 2023 calaender year.And the Head Coach asks for immunity contract clause the following January.Because nothing screams integrity like the aforementioned random list of achievements. A big nothing burger,ok we'll buy that shyt :cheer:
Didn't look like it against TCU, I wonder why?Teams have never had a great team fail to show up in a big game? Wow.. thought an OSU fan would understand that well after watching their team get shutout(blown out) by Clemson on a big stage.
Well that might explain a win or two against Ohio State, but not the other 38. And it's not like the 26 losses in the "Before" column all came against the Buckeyes. As I recall, they came against errrrrrbody. :)you take Jeem's COVID year out he was basically a 10-3/9-4 a year coach and one of those losses would be Ohio State, another to a team he had no business losing to- looking at you Iowa 2016- and a bowl game loss and he'd beat everyone else.
Didn't look like it against TCU, I wonder why?18-21 year old kids totally never look past competition and play down to what they deem as inferior competition and look ahead to a monumental rematch vs UGA in a national title game. never happens I tell you. ever.
Teams have never had a great team fail to show up in a big game? Wow.. thought an OSU fan would understand that well after watching their team get shutout(blown out) by Clemson on a big stage.That Clemson team was a quality team that won the ACC and that year's NC with a win over Alabama.
Those Michigan fans are dirtbags.. now us Ohio State fans only root for fair play, integrity and doing things the right way..I'm not thrilled with the new rules and I've made that abundantly clear here but note that this is publicly released info because it is all totally legit now.
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I'm not thrilled with the new rules and I've made that abundantly clear here but note that this is publicly released info because it is all totally legit now.Just make sure you head over to Brecksville to the new large construction site and thank the family for buying a couple of the OSU titles during the Tressel era. Until that happens, maybe tone down every Michigan thread where you scream cheaters.
A little different from needing to wear a wig and sunglasses at night:
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That Clemson team was a quality team that won the ACC and that year's NC with a win over Alabama.97.3% sure you're brohio :043:
The TCU team that took out Michigan backed into the CFP after failing to win a joke of a B12 and lost 65-7 to UGA in a game that wasn't even that close.
Oh, and since you brought it up, the Georgia team that MAULED TCU barely escaped Ohio State on a missed FG as time expired so . . .
22-Michigan with cheating: Good enough to beat Ohio State by three scores.
22-Michigan without cheating: Couldn't beat TCU.
Recall that Georgia and Ohio State were fairly equal (FG in the air as time expired decided it). For those Michigan "men" who want to claim that the rampant cheating didn't matter, it took your team from TCU's level to above tOSU/UGA's level. That is the advantage it provided.
Just make sure you head over to Brecksville to the new large construction site and thank the family for buying a couple of the OSU titles during the Tressel era. Until that happens, maybe tone down every Michigan thread where you scream cheaters.This is two things:
the same amnesia that hits people when OSU and Catapult is discussed? Sounds like the same type that only remembers free tattoos and gold pants when OSU was found to have many many players on payroll of NE Ohio construction companies.. Odd Tressel knew the owner of the one out of Independence, OH very well.The amusement continues - you are moving those goal posts so fast, it’s a wonder they aren’t starting running backs in Ann Arbor
97.3% sure you're brohio :043:I've never heard of brohio.
By the way genius, that Georgia defense Ohio State faced in '22 was nowhere near the same Georgia defense that Michigan faced in '21.
NT Jordan Davis (1st round pick) DL Travon Walker (1st round pick) LB Quay Walker (1st round pick) DL Devonte Wyatt (1st round pick), S Lewis Cine (1st round pick), LB Nakobe Dean (3rd rd pick and best player on that defense), and LB Channing Tindall (3rd rd pick) were in the NFL in 2022 and not on that defense.
The game is all about matchups. Michigan with Cade McNamara at QB in '21 couldn't threaten UGA at all vertically and Michigan- a team that runs the ball 65% of the time had virtually nowhere to run the football because all those NFL players for Georgia in the front 7 swarmed the line of scrimmage and made it impossible.
Those Michigan fans are dirtbags.. now us Ohio State fans only root for fair play, integrity and doing things the right way..your myopic squabbling is indeed desperate,the rules state that this is perfectly legal. Unlike boogers foray into breaking the rules.This is rich michigan has 17.9 billion dollar endowmment and you think none of that is syphoned off to the athletic program? :D ya I know leaders and the best - wouldn't even consider it - To help Misters Stalions-Weiss-Partridge to somehow get by in these lean times or to keep quite? Now you really want sell us more twisted tales about Connor making 55,000 dollars and buying not only a 450,000 house but somehow running a vacuum cleaner repair shop out of it? Can you get me that phone # my old hoover has been acting up lately and I'd like a real expert to look it over
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I've never heard of brohio.you pretty much implied that in your post, brohio.
I didn't mention the 2021 Michigan and Georgia teams nor their game.
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you pretty much implied that in your post, brohio.Knock it off Uncle T
How many O-Lineman is UofM replacing this season?all five brother.
can you obsessed losers of three in a row take this over to the off-season thread and stop derailing a thread about an actual football game involving Michigan and Fresno State being played this weekend? thanks.LoL.
Oh, here is from USA Today, which buckeye poster do you think wrote this (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/08/28/michigan-football-reputation-national-title-jim-harbaugh-connor-stalions/74973784007/):The article I linked here really brings into focus the issues here.
"Michigan football's once spotless reputation in tatters after decisions to win at all cost"
The article I linked here really brings into focus the issues here.#obsessed
Michigan used to be a respectable institution. I've always HATED them for their BB cheating that cost my team a FF back when I was in HS but once Schembechler left they seemed to behave in a respectable fashion most of the time. A hated but respected rival.
The article reminded me of that time gone by. Back when RRod got in hot water with the NCAA for a practice violation the President of the University and the Athletic Director were contrite. President Sue Coleman called it a humiliating embarrassment and AD Dave Brandon said "nobody wants to be found guilty of these types of activities." That is similar to the way Ohio State fired Jim Tressel over Tat-gate. Those (both Michigan's 15 years ago and Ohio State's a short time later) are the actions of respectable institutions.
Today it appears that Michigan is run by a less foul-mouthed version of @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) . Harbaugh misled investigators. Sherrone Moore destroyed evidence during an active investigation. Ohio State's leadership fired Jim Tressel for filing to notify compliance of a violation. Moore's offense is infinitely worse and Harbaugh's are on another level altogether.
I've always hated Michigan but now I resent being tied to them through the rivalry. Michigan has become a trash institution and that taints Ohio State by association because for people who aren't CFB fans and even some CFB fans who aren't on one side or the other, they just see Ohio State and Michigan as two sides of one coin. That pisses me off because the institution that I graduated from and root for isn't trash.
#obsessedYou can make S*&t up pull S*&t out of your A$$ but that doesn't make any of it true.
for your sake hope Ohio wins this year brohio, don't want you beating your significant other and then committing suicide.
You can make S*&t up pull S*&t out of your A$$ but that doesn't make any of it true.(https://i.giphy.com/ME2ymiZaDHqWc6grdw.webp)
Your program is trash. That is a statement of fact echoed by the NCAA, the USA Today, and everyone with eyes.
I frankly miss the days when Michigan was a respectable program but that doesn't make me obsessed and my wife and kids and I are in no danger even if Ohio State loses to your trash program again this year. I got through 2021 and 2022 without even knowing about Michigan's rampant cheating. Knowledge of that actually made 2023's loss worse because I knew my team was robbed by a trash program and their Head Cheater/Coach. Trash, all of you are trash.
Again, @SuperMario (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1596) how do you look your kids in the eye and tell them not to lie while wearing a blue shirt with a yellow "M". Trash.
LoL.
You can't honestly discuss and analyze Michigan football without addressing or at least acknowledging the rampant cheating.
Oh, here is from USA Today, which buckeye poster do you think wrote this (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/08/28/michigan-football-reputation-national-title-jim-harbaugh-connor-stalions/74973784007/):
"Michigan football's once spotless reputation in tatters after decisions to win at all cost"
some chatter that former walk-on Davis Warren has made a serious push and might've overtaken Alex Orji as QB1.Unless Orji is like completely unable to throw the ball at all bad, I'd just roll with him, let him learn on the job, and run the ball 90% of the time if need be. I know it's not last year where you have no real games in September, and you play Texas Week 2, but that plan worked ok in Happy Valley last year
Not sure how I feel about that. IF that is the case probably means Alex Orji was just too inconsistent and too inaccurate throwing the football and that means one of two things: we in serious trouble on offense and gonna suck or this Davis Warren fella about to go on a movie like storybook fairytale Stetson Bennett/Rudy arch of from walk-on zero to program hero.
IF Davis Warren is the starter I tend to think it means Michigan gonna suck on offense. The walk-on to stud player route is like one in a billion. Not feeling great.
Unless Orji is like completely unable to throw the ball at all bad, I'd just roll with him, let him learn on the job, and run the ball 90% of the time if need be. I know it's not last year where you have no real games in September, and you play Texas Week 2, but that plan worked ok in Happy Valley last yearI agree with all that. Orji has around 35 pounds on JJ but he's also quicker/faster than JJ. And JJ could run...he wasn't slow by any means...they just smartly limited his running opportunities. Orji is seriously built like a tank and he is a freakish athlete. He can run away from defenders and he's not afraid to lower all 6'3, 235 pounds of his shoulders and just truck stick a motherfucker. I really want to see a ton of read option and designed runs with him. He's just got to be able to protect the football and make enough easy throws consistently to be the QB.
Warren is serviceable and should remain as QB #1. Short to medium pass accuracy is good,We must have watched a different game. A vast majority of his throws were in front of or behind the target, especially any moving target. Loveland bailed him out on quite a few throws that weren’t accurate. Sure there were a few that were, but a majority were not from my seat on the Monday Morning Quarterback couch.
We must have watched a different game. A vast majority of his throws were in front of or behind the target, especially any moving target. Loveland bailed him out on quite a few throws that weren’t accurate. Sure there were a few that were, but a majority were not from my seat on the Monday Morning Quarterback couch.yeah I have no clue wtf he was watching, Davis Warren sucks.
yeah I have no clue wtf he was watching, Davis Warren sucks.Here’s my question. If Orji is absolutely that poor with accuracy, why in the world have they been keeping him at QB this long? If it’s so bad he doesn’t deserve a fair shot, then, I don’t know, work him into other parts of the offense maybe?
And I have no clue how he can say Alex Orji passing ain't happening....he threw 2 passes one at the beginning of the game, one at the end. One pass went for a TD. The second pass was a really bad one he dirt-balled. That's it.
The coaches seriously mismanaged the QB situation. They should've given Davis Warren the first half and Orji the second half. My guess is they score 40+ if Orji was given the entire 2nd half. Orji only had 5 carries but he ran for almost 40 yards and was close to popping a couple big runs but got tripped/up shoestring tackled. And he only threw 2 passes. That's it. My guess here is you give Orji 15 carries he's popping one run for 20+ and he's going to open up the running lanes for the other RB's and make the passing game easier because Fresno is going to have to actually account for him and play 11 on 11 and not 11 on 10 like they could with Davis Warren who is zero threat to run or throw because: he sucks.
Here’s my question. If Orji is absolutely that poor with accuracy, why in the world have they been keeping him at QB this long? If it’s so bad he doesn’t deserve a fair shot, then, I don’t know, work him into other parts of the offense maybe?that's a good question. they seem dead set on keeping the offensive system the same. Orji probably doesn't fit that. but he doesn't have to if you: BUILD THE OFFENSE AROUND HIM.