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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: betarhoalphadelta on August 14, 2024, 03:03:11 PM
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Well, JJ McCarthy now out for the year... Vikings gonna be rollin' out ole' Sammy Darnold.
Sorry FF.
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Sammy might do OK
I'm more worried about their cornerbacks on defense
gonna get torched
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Caught off guard by not being told exactly where the blitz was coming from :57:
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Vikings are going to be bad this year. Most likely not top-5 pick bad, but horrible nonetheless.
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Vikings are going to be bad this year. Most likely not top-5 pick bad, but horrible nonetheless.
Yeah, might not be the worst thing to help them add a solid piece next year. The WRs are so good they can make just about any QB look fine
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Addison is hurt though and Osbourne is gone. Who else do they have besides JJ?
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Addison is hurt though and Osbourne is gone. Who else do they have besides JJ?
Still have Hock at TE, right?
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yes sir
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Addison is hurt though and Osbourne is gone. Who else do they have besides JJ?
Didn't realize Addison was hurt
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ankle sprain
supposedly, not serious
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F the Vikequeens.
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F the Vikequeens.
The Bears are going to be just as bad.
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Still have Hock at TE, right?
his knee turned to playdoh last game of last year I believe. complete ACL/MCL/PCL tear I think. he probably won't be ready til midway through the season if that.
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The Bears are going to be just as bad.
the Bears are going to be even worse. Caleb Williams' candy paint nail polished fruitcake ass is going to learn quickly this ain't USC and he ain't playing a bunch of soft ass candy ass beta male no defense playing cucks in the Pac on the west coast. he's going to be thrown out to the wolves because the Bears suck and have no other QB on the roster they can actually play- and he's going to have a majorly difficult welcome to the major leagues where the real men are season and he's going to have a rough season and be a turnover machine and the Bears are going to suck.
Bears ownership is a complete disaster and Matt Eberflus is a literal joke of a head coach who will ruin Caleb Williams. Eberflus is one of the least impressive head coaches I have ever seen in the NFL, he's in way over his head. And an inexperienced failing defensive head coach + rookie QB typically spells disaster 99.9+% of the time.
The team will suck ass, but I do like the WR's though. DJ Moore is a flat out baller, Rome Odunze was the 2nd best WR in the draft imo and Kennan Allen is like 100 years old and slower than absolute f*ck now- but he's still probably got a couple pretty good years left in him and he's not going to be asked to be "the guy" there with Moore and Odunze.
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Lions are winning the division going away this year imo. Which is a crazy thing to say considering their history. They finally got Aidan some help up front on defense with DJ Reader and Marcus Davenport and they addressed the weakest link on their entire team last year- CB- by trading for Carlton Davis and drafting Terrion Arnold and Ennis Rakestraw Jr. in the 1st and 2nd round of the draft. Offense should be top notch- and anything they get out of Jameson Williams will just take it to another level, defense should be much improved and Hutch could be in for a DPOY kind of season- this is probably the best Lions team I can ever remember heading into a season.
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Depends on which Jordan Love we get. If we get the second half one, Packers should battle for the division. Either way both should get in again
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The Bears are going to be just as bad.
The good news is I don't care. The better news is the Queenies suck.
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ankle sprain
supposedly, not serious
That's good news. I heard he was carted off the field, so usually not a good sign.
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Depends on which Jordan Love we get. If we get the second half one, Packers should battle for the division. Either way both should get in again
Agreed. Lions and Packers are clear cut #1 and #2 in the division, and after that there's a pretty big drop off. Both are playoff teams. While I definitely think Love has a higher ceiling than Goff does, he also has a lower floor and Detroit has a better overall roster than Green Bay. Jameson Williams needs to have a breakout season this year, and if he does Detroit is going to be special on offense because they have everything else already set in place with Amon-Ra, LaPorta at TE, the RB duo of Gibbs & Montgomery, and probably the best OL in the NFL.
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There’s a growing preseason consensus that the NFL’s worst team is likely the New England Patriots.
Their options at QB are career backups and an inexperienced rookie who’s played poorly in two preseason games thus far. Worse, the OL is underwhelming, even after the Patriots spent recent draft capital beefing it up; they were destroyed by the Eagles backup DL in both a joint practice and preseason game this past week. They’ve lost their two best DL in short order, trading pass rusher Matthew Judon to Atlanta after a contract dispute and losing DT Barmore indefinitely due to blood clots.
And new head coach Jared Mayo is a bit in over his head and only brings a one-dimensional background after coming up through the ranks of coaching linebackers, a hire mirroring UCLA promoting DeShaun Foster, also a career positional coach, to head coach.
New England’s schedule opens with @Cincinnati, Vs Seattle, @NY Jets, @San Francisco, continues into October with four more likely playoff contenders, and doesn’t get a BYE until the second Sunday in December.
I’m looking forward to what should be a terrible season for the Patriots. Belichick’s last half-decade of poor drafts have thinned the roster.
Oh well – at least Mac Jones is gone:
https://twitter.com/BOSSportsGordo/status/1723748195912581432
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There’s a growing preseason consensus that the NFL’s worst team is likely the New England Patriots.
That's just terrible - if they're looking for sympathy it's between shit and syphilis in Webster's
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What do you all think the Chargers offense will look like this year?
I'm working on my fantasy draft prep, and it seems like Chargers players are being WOEFULLY undervalued. Herbert's one of the top pure passers in the league, and we all know Jeem, for all his faults, is a quality coach.
In fantasy drafts, their top WR is the 43rd WR off the board and second is 58th, their top two RBs are the 37th and 42nd RBs off the board, top TE is 43rd off the board at that position. Heck, even Justin Herbert is being valued as the 16th QB off the board.
Literally fantasy is drafting these players like the Chargers are going to have the Patriots' offense this year.
What do you folks see?
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There’s a growing preseason consensus that the NFL’s worst team is likely the New England Patriots.
Their options at QB are career backups and an inexperienced rookie who’s played poorly in two preseason games thus far. Worse, the OL is underwhelming, even after the Patriots spent recent draft capital beefing it up; they were destroyed by the Eagles backup DL in both a joint practice and preseason game this past week. They’ve lost their two best DL in short order, trading pass rusher Matthew Judon to Atlanta after a contract dispute and losing DT Barmore indefinitely due to blood clots.
And new head coach Jared Mayo is a bit in over his head and only brings a one-dimensional background after coming up through the ranks of coaching linebackers, a hire mirroring UCLA promoting DeShaun Foster, also a career positional coach, to head coach.
New England’s schedule opens with @Cincinnati, Vs Seattle, @NY Jets, @San Francisco, continues into October with four more likely playoff contenders, and doesn’t get a BYE until the second Sunday in December.
I’m looking forward to what should be a terrible season for the Patriots. Belichick’s last half-decade of poor drafts have thinned the roster.
you don't hire Jerod Mayo as your head coach and expect to win. Pats are going to be truly awful, and I think the Kraft's knew they were going to suck this year.
Belichik has always been pretty awful at the draft. He took over a team that Parcells and Pete Carroll (two guys excellent at drafting) had stocked up and he sort of kind of lucked into Tom Brady falling out of the heavens into his lap in the 6th round and then blossoming into the greatest QB ever- and that's something no one on earth could've predicted not even Belichik. Belichik was great at getting undervalued F/A's and turning them into better players. And of course he had Tom Brady- who was the ultimate wart coverer.
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What do you all think the Chargers offense will look like this year?
I'm working on my fantasy draft prep, and it seems like Chargers players are being WOEFULLY undervalued. Herbert's one of the top pure passers in the league, and we all know Jeem, for all his faults, is a quality coach.
In fantasy drafts, their top WR is the 43rd WR off the board and second is 58th, their top two RBs are the 37th and 42nd RBs off the board, top TE is 43rd off the board at that position. Heck, even Justin Herbert is being valued as the 16th QB off the board.
Literally fantasy is drafting these players like the Chargers are going to have the Patriots' offense this year.
What do you folks see?
they are for sure being slept on. they already had one of the best young tackles in football in Rashawn Slater and they just drafted Joe Alt in the top 5. Jeem is going to build that OL into a monster. Herbert has real life coaching for the first time in his career, he's just going to get better imo.
I'm more excited to see their defense with Jesse Minter DC'ing. That defense should be nasty. And I think Junior Colson is going to slot right into a starting ILB spot because he knows that staff and that defense and he'll vie for Defensive Rookie of the Year. Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, Derwin James, and Asante Samuel Jr are a great core to build a defense around. Joey Bosa has to stay healthy this year and that defense will be lit.
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Danny Dimes already in mid-season form. feel terrible for Malik Nabers. Giants should've took Michael Penix or JJ McCarthy.
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1824860216308990064
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That Caleb Williams dude might be pretty good at football.
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Danny Dimes out there killing it in pre-season...this was his 2nd of 3 INT's of his pre-season debut....
https://twitter.com/iam_johnw/status/1824863651615908106
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That Caleb Williams dude might be pretty good at football.
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1824876960612503743
https://twitter.com/JustinFieldsFC_/status/1824896059585282289
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https://twitter.com/JamesYoder/status/1825563799619019119?t=7n3r8U9h0cqxv-Cju4HiBA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/JamesYoder/status/1825563799619019119?t=7n3r8U9h0cqxv-Cju4HiBA&s=19
ha. that's funny. Max Duggan does kinda suck though. he's was so obviously not even NFL back-up QB caliber. which just makes that loss in the playoff that much more painful. JJ really f'ed that one up for Michigan with his two pick 6's and the fumble and turnover on the 1 yard line when Michigan was about to go in for a TD. JJ was basically solely responsible for a 21 point swing in that game. the defense also missed like what seemed 1000 tackles that game. CB DJ Turner missed I think two that wound up leading to big TD's for TCU. how that kid got drafted in the 2nd round and someone like Josh Wallace didn't even get drafted at all is beyond me. Oh I know how....DJ ripped off a 4.25-40 at the combine and Wallace ran 4.69. I watched every snap both played at Michigan. Josh Wallace was just flat out better at playing football, way more physical, a much better tackler, and a smarter more heads up CB than DJ Turner in college.
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https://twitter.com/CantALoupe_FF/status/1825908790786404514
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It's amazing how many bad coaches and failed retreads Miami has gone through since Shula retired. Seems like maybe they finally got a dude
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It's amazing how many bad coaches and failed retreads Miami has gone through since Shula retired. Seems like maybe they finally got a dude
Miami is kind of my second team, in large part because I was such a massive Marino fan- not because I live there. And yeah, Miami definitely had a really bad run of hiring duds. Including Brian Flores, who thought he was Bill Belichik. Turns out he's not.
Mike McDaniel is a HELL of a coach. He basically single handedly resurrected Tua's career and the Dolphins are one of the most fun offenses in the entire NFL to watch.
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Don't forget that POS loser Nick Saban!
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Josh Wallace was just flat out better at playing football, way more physical, a much better tackler, and a smarter more heads up CB than DJ Turner in college.
DJ Turner and Dax Hill currently in a competition to see who will be a starting Bengals cornerback
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We don't get much Bears here, which is probably for the better. We get more Bucs than Dolphins, which was great when Brady was playing. Now I would prefer more Dolphins.
I'm not going to buy the NFL thing.
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Don't forget that POS loser Nick Saban!
well his defenses were legit. he was around .500 coach in two seasons. Nick was a failure because: Nick quit on the team and he quit on them way too early before he was actually able to build a program up. Nick wanted to sign Drew Brees to be his QB. Nick got overruled by ownership because of Brees' medicals and they signed Daunte Culpepper instead. Big mistake. Nick knew this was a mistake as soon as he got Culpepper in camp and saw Culpepper actually play football, and by the end of that year Nick was like fuck this shit I'm out.
Dolphins sign Drew Brees with Nick holding down the defense- that's a perennial contender and Nick don't quit after just two seasons.
Bama really has the Dolphins doctors/brass refusing to sign Drew Brees for their run. Talk about good luck.
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DJ Turner and Dax Hill currently in a competition to see who will be a starting Bengals cornerback
Dax Hill all day long. Dax taller, longer, thicker/bigger with more mass/muscle, way more physical, much better tackler- really doesn't miss very many tackles- plus he'll get up and lay the wood and smack somebody. Also has better ball skills than DJ Turner. Dax isn't quite 4.25 fast- but he did run in the 4.3's in the combine I think- and he's a lot bigger.
Not sure what DJ Turner really does well except for run extremely fast and stick close to WR's who aren't as fast as he is. his ball skills are MEH and he doesn't get interceptions. he's smallish and his tackling is atrocious.
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Dax Hill all day long. Dax taller, longer, thicker/bigger with more mass/muscle, way more physical, much better tackler- really doesn't miss very many tackles- plus he'll get up and lay the wood and smack somebody. Also has better ball skills than DJ Turner. Dax isn't quite 4.25 fast- but he did run in the 4.3's in the combine I think- and he's a lot bigger.
Not sure what DJ Turner really does well except for run extremely fast and stick close to WR's who aren't as fast as he is. his ball skills are MEH and he doesn't get interceptions. he's smallish and his tackling is atrocious.
I think Hill will win the job. He didn't really work out at safety, but seems like they like him more at corner
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I think Hill will win the job. He didn't really work out at safety, but seems like they like him more at corner
Makes sense. Dax played more nickel/slot corner than he did safety in college. Dax played 739 snaps his last year at Michigan, the highest on the team. 531 snaps were at nickel/slot corner, 16 at outside corner, 112 up in the box, and just 63 at deep safety.
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he does kinda look like a coke dealer....:043:
https://twitter.com/VanLathan/status/1826264676378058976
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https://twitter.com/JamesYoder/status/1825563799619019119?t=7n3r8U9h0cqxv-Cju4HiBA&s=19
That's all well and good, but he's got a bad roster that's in cap hell with a starting QB that is fighting an injury to his plantar facia.
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It was definitely interesting whether you want to start fresh with a new QB, or have the QB in place, but have the rest of the roster be a mess.
You can flip the rest of the roster pretty quickly, but it's tough to build around a QB once he's paid, unless he's an elite tier QB. Harbaugh is betting that Herbert can be that dude.
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It was definitely interesting whether you want to start fresh with a new QB, or have the QB in place, but have the rest of the roster be a mess.
You can flip the rest of the roster pretty quickly, but it's tough to build around a QB once he's paid, unless he's an elite tier QB. Harbaugh is betting that Herbert can be that dude.
yeah but that roster really isn't a mess though. Sure maybe the WR room isn't sexy, but that's not how Harbaugh plays anyway. Stanford, 49ers, Michigan....his WR's were always MEH. They don't matter. WR is probably the most overrated and unnecessary position in sports. People get so hung up on them...but they literally don't matter IF....you have a QB, OL, and defense. And well Jeem....he's all about: QB, OL line play, and defense. They have a great young QB in place and they are going to have an excellent OL- especially with that draft pick of Joe Alt at tackle, and that defense has some really nice pieces.
Khalil Mack is a walking first ballot HOF'er and is coming off a 17.5 sack season. He's still got some juice left. Joey Bosa was actually playing better than Mack before he got hurt last year. Bosa has had a run of shit luck in the injury department- but dude just turned 29 years old a month ago....he's not that old. When he's healthy, he's a fucking DUDE. Their 2nd rd pick last year EDGE/DL Tuli Tuipulotu had a really solid rookie season, should only take a leap this year.
Derwin James for my money is that best damn safety in the NFL. Dude is a unicorn to be that size and that fluid and he's pound for pound the biggest hitter in the NFL. Asante Samuel Jr is one of the top 15 or so corners in football, and I can't remember the league ever having this many high level CB's at once. Their 3rd and 4th round draft picks of LB Junior Colson from Michigan and DT Justin Eboigbe from Bama are going to play and contribute a lot this year. Junior Colson knows that defense inside and out and he's just such a reliable tackler with great instincts at MLB, he's going to be excellent for them and fast and wind up winning a job and playing at a high level as a rookie just like he did at Michigan.
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It's amazing how many bad coaches and failed retreads Miami has gone through since Shula retired. Seems like maybe they finally got a dude
Don't forget that POS loser Nick Saban!
Ya and some dweeb Jimmy that claimed to be a friend Jerry Jones
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Giants suck, but A-Rod went 15/21 with 4 TD's in a joint practice vs them. Guy comes across as a prick and I think a lot of his teammates don't really like him....but god damn he's still got that magical arm. What a throw. They keep him up right and protect him he's going to tear shit up. Greatest thrower of the football I've ever seen. All due respect to Dan Marino.
https://twitter.com/OptimisticJets/status/1826329199231336955
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I see Bo Nix was named starter, somewhere.
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I see Bo Nix was named starter, somewhere.
yeah, going to be very interesting to see how he does in Denver with Sean Payton. I kinda have my doubts. I never really saw high level NFL talent with Nix. He doesn't have the elite arm, size, or athleticism a lot of these QB's are coming out with these days. But he's accurate and very experienced and Sean Payton loved him pre-draft and that's why they took him apparently.
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yeah, going to be very interesting to see how he does in Denver with Sean Payton. I kinda have my doubts. I never really saw high level NFL talent with Nix. He doesn't have the elite arm, size, or athleticism a lot of these QB's are coming out with these days. But he's accurate and very experienced and Sean Payton loved him pre-draft and that's why they took him apparently.
Hmm... Payton had some success with a guy meeting that description in the past.
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Giants suck, but A-Rod went 15/21 with 4 TD's in a joint practice vs them. Guy comes across as a prick and I think a lot of his teammates don't really like him....but god damn he's still got that magical arm. What a throw. They keep him up right and protect him he's going to tear shit up. Greatest thrower of the football I've ever seen. All due respect to Dan Marino.
https://twitter.com/OptimisticJets/status/1826329199231336955
If he cared even 70% as much as Brady or Manning, hell maybe even Mahomes, he would have been the GOAT
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If he cared even 70% as much as Brady or Manning, hell maybe even Mahomes, he would have been the GOAT
hard to argue that. Aaron Rodgers is the Barry Sanders of QB's to me. What I mean by that is I've never seen anyone with his kind of talent to play his position. All due respect to all the great RB's that have played this game, only seen one dude that could do what Barry Sanders could do. All due respect to all the great QB's that have played this game, only seen one dude that could what Aaron Rodgers could do.
Rodgers really is just an insane talent. Dude has a god tier arm. Some of throws he has made over the course of his career just leaves ya in awe.
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Giants suck, but A-Rod went 15/21 with 4 TD's in a joint practice vs them. Greatest thrower of the football I've ever seen. All due respect to Dan Marino.
maybe Billy Kilmer or perhaps Bobby Douglas
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maybe Billy Kilmer or perhaps Bobby Douglas
(https://i.imgur.com/60OMTTJ.jpeg)
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So where is the change of playoff teams?
The NFC is pretty stratified, and you're gonna have to sell me pretty hard on anything that isn't this, in rough order:
-Det/GB
-Dallas
-Winner of the West(one of SF/Rams/Seattle)
-Winner of the South at 7-10
-Whichever of GB/Det doesn't win the North
-Philly
-One of SF/Rams/Seattle
And it's a long way back to everyone else. There is a ton of trash at the bottom of the NFC.
The AFC? Much more excitement. The Chiefs are #1 unless and until proven otherwise, but there .
-KC
-Buffalo/Miami
-Balt/Cincy
-Houston
-LAC/Miami/(loser of Balt/Cincy)/Pit
The only team I can't figure out are the Broncos. Browns won't be a playoff team so long as Watson is the QB, but will be decent enough to be stuck in the middle.
Might not be as much junk, but NYJ, NE, Vegas, Jacksonville, Tennessee are all gonna be really bad.
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but wait!
The Vikings have signed former Minnesota Gophers RB Mo Ibrahim
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but wait!
The Vikings have signed former Minnesota Gophers RB Mo Ibrahim
Vikings signing a Muhammad? allahu akbar!
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Think Atlanta is going to do anything this year? Offensively they've got some talent at skill position players (London/Pitts/Bijan) and a new coaching staff that ideally won't be allergic to giving the ball to your stars.
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Think Atlanta is going to do anything this year? Offensively they've got some talent at skill position players (London/Pitts/Bijan) and a new coaching staff that ideally won't be allergic to giving the ball to your stars.
I mean that division sucks ass and someone has to win it. probably going to be the Falcons.
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if this is the Jameson Williams that the Lions are going to get all year, they are going right back to the NFC Championship and possibly the Super Bowl. Good luck stopping that offense if he finally starts to hit.
https://twitter.com/nickbaumgardner/status/1826211734480199927
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https://twitter.com/realdanmitchell/status/1826995401464979613
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The NFC is pretty stratified, and you're gonna have to sell me pretty hard on anything that isn't this, in rough order:
-Det/GB
-Dallas
-Winner of the West(one of SF/Rams/Seattle)
-Winner of the South at 7-10
-Whichever of GB/Det doesn't win the North
-Philly
-One of SF/Rams/Seattle
Might I predict that the NFC East might be a worse division than the NFC South?
I don't see anyone able to get out of their own way in the East, with Dallas coming off a terrible offseason, Dak in decline, and major playmakers holding out. Eagles coach Nick Sirianni will be coaching his way uphill this season after his staff was exposed going 1-7 to finish last season, to include a humiliating 32-9 loss in the playoffs Vs Tampa. Washington might be marginally better but the Giants already look like a disaster made worse by Daniel Jones and his $160M contract.
Interestingly, all NFC East teams will play all NFC South teams this season.
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Trey Lance threw 5 interceptions in the pre-season game vs the Chargers today. How was the guy the #3 pick in the draft? That '21 QB draft class looking like straight up ASS right now. Imagine if the 49ers had taken Micah Parsons or Ja'Marr Chase or Penei Sewell or Jaylen Waddle or Patrick Surtain II. Sheesh.
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1827486834118771095
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Might I predict that the NFC East might be a worse division than the NFC South?
I don't see anyone able to get out of their own way in the East, with Dallas coming off a terrible offseason, Dak in decline, and major playmakers holding out. Eagles coach Nick Sirianni will be coaching his way uphill this season after his staff was exposed going 1-7 to finish last season, to include a humiliating 32-9 loss in the playoffs Vs Tampa. Washington might be marginally better but the Giants already look like a disaster made worse by Daniel Jones and his $160M contract.
Interestingly, all NFC East teams will play all NFC South teams this season.
I'm not thrilled with the East either, but between the two divisions the Eagles and Cowboys are the only teams that have shown any resemblance of competence. I could be sold on a third West playoff team in lieu of whichever of the Cowboys/Eagles don't win the East.
The rest I stand by.
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https://twitter.com/FBGreatMoments/status/1828055367906984315
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Think Atlanta is going to do anything this year? Offensively they've got some talent at skill position players (London/Pitts/Bijan) and a new coaching staff that ideally won't be allergic to giving the ball to your stars.
Imagine if you either (a) spent money on pieces to surround your top 10 draft pick QB, rather than on a QB; or (b) didn't waste a top 10 draft pick on a backup QB
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Lions cut WR Donovan Peoples Jones after trading with the Browns for him last season at the deadline for a 6th round pick.
Thought he was going to blossom after having really good seasons as a #2/3 WR option for the Browns in 2021 & 2022. Never happened. Odd case of a guy that was a former 5* #1 WR top 10 overall recruit and is an athletic freak at 6'2, 212 lbs who runs 4.4 in the 40 and has a 45" vertical leap. You think he'd have put it all together by now and become a real player. Guess not.
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Can't run routes.
Also, apparently the Lions burned 2 timeouts on Saturday when he lined up in the wrong spot
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Can't run routes.
Also, apparently the Lions burned 2 timeouts on Saturday when he lined up in the wrong spot
he was a shitty route runner even at Michigan unless he was running a go and just trying to run past people deep. really wonder if the kid should've played safety or rb in college and if those would've been better positions for him. he's got the size/physicality to play them.
problem is you're not going to land a kid like that or keep him around with the portal if you try and make him move positions. he'll just commit somewhere else who lets him play wr.
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https://twitter.com/OldTakesExposed/status/1828218801306898616
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https://twitter.com/OldTakesExposed/status/1828218801306898616
One of the Pittsburgh sports talk guys was banging the drum LOUDLY for the Steelers to take Mahomes with their pick, which was like #25. That Ben was just about done, and tine to invest in a guy to sit for a year and take over in 2018. Turns out obviously Mahomes didnt even fall that far, but he got absolutely blasted by his cohosts for that take.
Granted the Steelers wound up taking TJ Watt with that pick, so it still worked out pretty ok
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https://twitter.com/YZR_Fantasy/status/1827889673009586507
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TJ Watt is good. Probably better than JJ.
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TJ Watt is good. Probably better than JJ.
He definitely can do more things than JJ. Im not sure why he has never gotten the same level of national love
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He definitely can do more things than JJ. Im not sure why he has never gotten the same level of national love
they are both just awesome players and future Hall of Famers, but also just vastly different players. JJ was much bigger and stronger and a true defensive lineman who could play tackle or end in the 3-4. TJ meanwhile a true 3-4 rush end/linebacker edge defender.
I think he doesn't get as much love because: JJ did win 3 Defensive player of the year awards and went on a 5 year run that was as good as any defensive player in the history of football has ever had before the injuries started piling up and slowed down his career. TJ has been a lot luckier on the injury front.
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yeah so this is just kinda insane. Aaron Donald never looked like a 285 pound man but was- and had 8 pack abs to boot. Oh yeah he could also bench press 500+ pounds. Just a fucking mutant. Dude was just a specimen with explosive quickness and insane brute force strength, and he's probably the greatest defensive player ever imo. All due respect to Lawerence Taylor.
https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1827877855033745917
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Pitt on Pitt violence.
Also, Pitt has to lead the nation in terms of NFL stars produced in relation to actual success
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Pitt on Pitt violence.
Also, Pitt has to lead the nation in terms of NFL stars produced in relation to actual success
1000%
they've put out some amazing NFL players. little to show for it in terms of wins.
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He definitely can do more things than JJ. Im not sure why he has never gotten the same level of national love
He's playing for the Squeelers - they gert enough attention
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kind of surprised Barnhart didn't make the roster, he's just a tough SOB who can play guard, center, or tackle. Not that surprised by the other two. Chris Hinton went undrafted in the 2022 draft after leaving after his true junior year and was a bit of a 5* HS recruit disappointment in college- never got any better and was just a solid player- bounced around a bunch of NFL teams never stuck anywhere. Cornelius Johnson was a really solid college player, never looked at that guy and thought "NFL WR!".
https://twitter.com/CSayf23/status/1828519605737816440
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Jeem signs RB Hassan Haskins to the Chargers 53 man roster who the Titans waived. I think that's a match made in heaven. Jeem going to run the shit out of the football.
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Might have to stay in and block for Herbert
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don't NFL owners have enough money? why are they seeking out pe? attending NFL games and buying the official NFL jerseys and merchandise are already expensive enough.
https://twitter.com/KegsnEggs/status/1828610486935466436
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it's never enuff
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best GM in the NFL?
https://twitter.com/BradHolmesBulge/status/1829252860787429500
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https://twitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1829162264198250557
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if the state of Alabama ever gets an NFL team this needs to be their logo...the Alabama Fighting Meth-Squirrels
https://twitter.com/Rothmus/status/1829315316876275929
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https://twitter.com/AB84/status/1829700644086694052
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https://twitter.com/matthewluciow92/status/1831036897919185042
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Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry together is fun as hell to watch.
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these new kickoff rules are beyond retarded.
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these new kickoff rules are beyond retarded.
Terrible.
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Chiefs rookie WR Xavier Worthy looked terrific. Explosive as all hell and scored 2 TD's. Imagine being the Buffalo Bills and trading your pick to the Chiefs and allowing them to draft Worthy with that pick. I believe Mahomes was also drafted by the Chiefs with a pick that the Bills sent them via trade.
Hint: Buffalo, stop trading with your main competitor in the AFC and the #1 reason why you haven't made it to a Super Bowl yet.
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Well to be fair, Buffalo HAS made it to the Superbowl before. Four times in a row...
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Well to be fair, Buffalo HAS made it to the Superbowl before. Four times in a row...
was talking the Josh Allen era. Bills have been on the cusp so many times only to have the Chiefs block them.
And yeah the Bills made it before, but that was ancient history. kinda like the Cowgirls making the Super Bowl :)
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kinda like the Cowgirls making the Super Bowl :)
ESPN should thank Eli Manning. He's the main reason the NFC East has been relevant in Super Bowl history in the past 30 years. Granted you wouldn't know it from their coverage
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ESPN should thank Eli Manning. He's the main reason the NFC East has been relevant in Super Bowl history in the past 30 years. Granted you wouldn't know it from their coverage
Eagles have been consistently good, made a few Super Bowls and won one. Redskins have pretty much always sucked. Cowboys have been good with Romo and Dak but always getting bounced first round of the playoffs.
Giants have pretty much sucked every year except for those two seasons where that gump Eli went all rain main in the post-season and beat the greatest QB/coach in NFL history. Twice. One of those seasons he dethroned the greatest team the NFL has ever seen imo with the flukiest luckiest play in NFL history.
Eli Manning has by far the weirdest career in NFL history. He was absolute mediocre ass to even downright horrible but he has those two insane improbable incredible post-season runs and Super Bowl wins over the greatest QB, greatest coach, and greatest dynasty in sports history.
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I wouldn't say horrible. He's been above average in an era where above average QBs don't win Super Bowls off their rookie contract. It would be like Jared Goff or Kirk Cousins winning 2 Super Bowls now
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Buffalo HAS made it to the Superbowl before. Four times in a row...
kinda like the Cowgirls making the Super Bowl :)
What is this Super Bowl you speak of ?
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I wouldn't say horrible. He's been above average in an era where above average QBs don't win Super Bowls off their rookie contract. It would be like Jared Goff or Kirk Cousins winning 2 Super Bowls now
didn't Eli lead the league in interceptions like 4 times? I don't know man, I never thought Eli was very good at all. And often times he played terrible. Definitely wasn't the kind of player you'd expect a #1 overall pick to be like his brother was.
Goff is better than Eli was imo. Just doesn't have the hardware. Yet. :)
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Eagles have been consistently good, made a few Super Bowls and won one. Redskins have pretty much always sucked. Cowboys have been good with Romo and Dak but always getting bounced first round of the playoffs.
Giants have pretty much sucked every year except for those two seasons where that gump Eli went all rain main in the post-season and beat the greatest QB/coach in NFL history. Twice. One of those seasons he dethroned the greatest team the NFL has ever seen imo with the flukiest luckiest play in NFL history.
Eli Manning has by far the weirdest career in NFL history. He was absolute mediocre ass to even downright horrible but he has those two insane improbable incredible post-season runs and Super Bowl wins over the greatest QB, greatest coach, and greatest dynasty in sports history.
Yankees. Canadiens.
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Missed most of last night's game with a stupid, useless, coulda-been-an-email back to school night. Caught about the last 7 minutes (thankfully it was weather delayed).
Hell of a final drive there... If Likely had clipped his toenails that morning, it coulda been epic!
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Missed most of last night's game with a stupid, useless, coulda-been-an-email back to school night. Caught about the last 7 minutes (thankfully it was weather delayed).
Hell of a final drive there... If Likely had clipped his toenails that morning, it coulda been epic!
Probably wearing a half shoe size too big to impress the ladies
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was talking the Josh Allen era. Bills have been on the cusp so many times only to have the Chiefs block them.
And yeah the Bills made it before, but that was ancient history. kinda like the Cowgirls making the Super Bowl :)
Detroit Lions fans throwing shade at the Cowboys for not getting into the Superbowl is one way to go, I guess...
Remind me-- how many Superbowls has Detroit been in?
ESPN should thank Eli Manning. He's the main reason the NFC East has been relevant in Super Bowl history in the past 30 years. Granted you wouldn't know it from their coverage
And yet the NY Giants fans I know absolutely hate him. Really strange.
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https://twitter.com/Joshua__DM/status/1832063616180167025
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NFC North QBs cursed this year
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/nfl-fans-fear-worst-gruesome-angle-jordan-loves-injury-emerges
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go pack go
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It's gonna take a while for me to understand kickoffs now
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(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.0jSyRF2ex_5xWlxGYgSxewAAAA?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain)
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Baker looks anywhere from the 9th-13th best QB in the league. If the Browns were paying him 30M/year right now they'd be a very good football team.
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Dobbins is just crazy talented. I saw him take over games when Lamar was hurt. Low key excellent pickup, hope he stays healthy.
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Gave DAK a new contract it seems to be working. Give Watson more than that and....ah forget it - another dagger in the heart of Cleveland sports fans
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I've always kinda liked the Browns. Not today of course, but in general, I like 'em.
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Mike Zimmer's defense
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I've always kinda liked the Browns. Not today of course, but in general, I like 'em.
Fans have been great back in the day they packed old Municipal Stadium in and around 70-85,000. of course there use to be a healthy middle class and it didn't cost an 🦾 & a 🦿 to attend a contest
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It's a good thing that they ran off Flacco, so that tWatson wouldn't be looking over his shoulder.
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(https://i.imgur.com/vkFQAeF.png)
Ran for 15 yards.
(https://i.imgur.com/iS87s9u.png)
Ran for 57 yards.
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That Tampa Bay QB looks pretty good, wonder if Cleveland could get him
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That Tampa Bay QB looks pretty good, wonder if Cleveland could get him
I was going to duplicate Badge's post and use Baker and watson until i saw your post.. At least the Bears didn't trade away 3 first and 2 second round picks for their change in QB.. The second dumbest trade in NFL history.
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Fans have been great back in the day they packed old Municipal Stadium in and around 70-85,000. of course there use to be a healthy middle class and it didn't cost an 🦾 & a 🦿 to attend a contest
Used to be great. Gritty middle class having their moment away from the grind. Can't say I love most of the culture and crowd down there now. People talk so highly about the Muni lot tailgating. My view of that crowd is the opposite of what was once good.
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Used to be great. Gritty middle class having their moment away from the grind. Can't say I love most of the culture and crowd down there now. People talk so highly about the Muni lot tailgating. My view of that crowd is the opposite of what was once good.
Sadly I think this is true across the board for NFL teams. My first Cowboys games in the 80s and 90s, were a very different experience than the last one I went to in the 2010s. It's a much rougher crowd these days.
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Sadly I think this is true across the board for NFL teams. My first Cowboys games in the 80s and 90s, were a very different experience than the last one I went to in the 2010s. It's a much rougher crowd these days.
Growing up going to UM games, I had been to probably 60+ before my first Lions game. It was quite the eye opener
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Sounds like the season is already over for the Giants after getting blown at home 28-6 to the Vikings to open the season. Daniel Jones lays another egg, throwing 22/42 & 2 INTs for a rating of 44.3. To make it worse, Sam Darnold, who was run out of the same stadium after flaming out with the Jets, lit up the Giants, completing his first 10 passes and throwing 19/24 for a passer rating of 113.2.
NY Post (https://nypost.com/2024/09/08/sports/feel-free-to-start-your-giants-panic-it-was-that-bad/)-
“Disappointing game,” Giants head coach Brian Daboll said. “Lots to clear up. We’ll make corrections and be better.”
That sounds like a wonderful plan, until you realize exactly what happened, and by that we should start with this, presented in italics and capital letters lest you think it’s a practical joke: THEY WERE FILLETED AND TAKEN TO SCHOOL BY SAM DARNOLD."
I'm convinced the Giants already planned to tank the season. Once they let Saquon Barkley flee to a division rival (Eagles) and didn't do anything with free agency, my guess is they are setting up Daniel Jones to fail in order to move on from him and the regrettable $160M contract they signed him to.
Only one week into the regular season and the plan is working well. In the meantime, enjoy these frantic headlines:
(https://i.imgur.com/6Qc6XiT.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/jg6ezO9.png)
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(https://i.imgur.com/vkFQAeF.png)
Ran for 15 yards.
(https://i.imgur.com/iS87s9u.png)
Ran for 57 yards.
Caleb was lucky his defense was playing Will Levis who sucks- and who threw an INT with the lead late in the 4th QTR that the Bears returned for a TD to win the game.
the GOAT Bill Belichik called it on Caleb Williams- he said let's not anoint the kid yet he completed 50% of his passes in the pre-season.
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Lions looked pretty damn good last night. That OL and run game, elite. Jamo looked the part and made huge plays. And the defense looks much improved, especially that secondary.
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https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1832933465987400189
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Lions looked pretty damn good last night. That OL and run game, elite. Jamo looked the part and made huge plays. And the defense looks much improved, especially that secondary.
The Rams held Amon Ra and Gibbs in check (which sucked for my fantasy team), so Jamo and Montgomery just took over. Montgomery was that dude last year, but if Jamo can finally live up to all of the talent he oozes, that is massive.
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The Rams held Amon Ra and Gibbs in check (which sucked for my fantasy team), so Jamo and Montgomery just took over. Montgomery was that dude last year, but if Jamo can finally live up to all of the talent he oozes, that is massive.
yeah if Jamo plays like he's capable of this team becomes really hard to stop because it has probably the best OL in football and has so many options and different ways to attack with Amon Ra over the middle of the field and racking up YAC, La Porta is a total mismatch for LBs/Safeties at TE, and Montgomery & Gibbs in the backfield, not to mention Ben Johnson is just an amazing OC. You add an elite deep threat burner that can take the top off a defense at any time? Forget about it. Not to mention they overhauled the secondary in a huge way and got Hutch a little bit of help.
Haven't seen a Lions team this good in oh, ever.
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https://twitter.com/AB84/status/1832937320800043316
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https://twitter.com/FanDuel/status/1832871770363396272
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Hutch a little bit of help.
Supposedly, but he was still the entire pass rush. Granted if they just guys good enough to limit his double teams, that might be enough
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https://twitter.com/colton_pouncy/status/1833179546205430082
https://twitter.com/UMFanJosh/status/1833214105756569617
https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1833198281301667877
https://twitter.com/mr_4thdown/status/1832966385103749467
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Seems like his last name should be Watt.
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Supposedly, but he was still the entire pass rush. Granted if they just guys good enough to limit his double teams, that might be enough
https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1833218820984406412
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Beast!!
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(https://i.imgur.com/cjzWMiu.png)
Beast got one sack and almost caused Stafford to have a bad game
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Beast got one sack and almost caused Stafford to have a bad game
you clearly didn’t watch the game.
Rams only scored 20 points including an overtime. that is nothing in an NFL game.
Stafford should’ve had 4 INT’s and every single pass called by McVey was designed for Stafford to get rid of the ball and under 10 yards in the air in under 2 seconds. First read pre-determined throw. Stafford was lit up or running for his life on any throw where he actually had to drop back and throw it down the field. 90% of his completions were cheap little dinks and dunks where the ball is out in under 2 seconds. Guy was running for his life on any other pass attempt.
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musta looked like Deion's kid in Lincoln
but, to your point, the deal in Lincoln was a team defense effort
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musta looked like Deion's kid in Lincoln
but, to your point, the deal in Lincoln was a team defense effort
Deion's kid is a legit 1st round NFL QB prospect. Not his fault his OL and RB's blow and his dad is a bit of a jackass.
As far as the actual Lions-Rams game goes, Stafford only threw 1 INT but he had 3 more that should've been picked and defenders just didn't come up with the play. Stafford is an all-time great talent and probably the most underrated QB in NFL history. If he wasn't stuck in Detroit on some really awful teams for the vast majority of his career he'd be talked about as an all-time great because his toughness and his arm talent are the ELITE of the elite who have ever played the game. Any other average Joe QB who isn't a superstar like Stafford, Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, or fill in the blank and the Rams get blown out of that game. Stafford was making RIDICULOUS throws- which he always does- and making it look easy- which it ain't. Stafford was getting rid of that ball instantly on top of the ridiculous throws- and the ridiculous throws are just par for the course that dude- he's made them his entire career.
Sacks are important but also pretty randomized events. Pressures are more important. Consistent pressures I should say. If you're consistently winning your pass rush vs the OL and getting heat on the QB- you're more than doing your job. Sometimes pressures wind up in sacks, sometimes they don't- but getting the QB off his spot or forcing him to rush his throw consistently will lead to INT's and incompletions and if you can win your pass rushes and pressure the QB at a very high clip the sacks should eventually come but even if they don't- your teammates getting INT's or the QB throwing incomplete passes is bound to happen and you did your job as a pass rusher.
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Browns giving up the farm and trading for a cooked DeShaun Watson and giving him the largest guaranteed contract ever will go down as one of the all-time worst trades in NFL history...
https://twitter.com/DylanEveryday/status/1832920610063987192
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Herschel Walker trade for Minn/Dallas is way up there for all-timers.
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Herschel Walker trade for Minn/Dallas is way up there for all-timers.
Oh for sure. But at least Herschel still had it a little bit. DeShaun Watson is absolutely washed. Stick a fork in him, he’s done.
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Browns giving up the farm and trading for a cooked DeShaun Watson and giving him the largest guaranteed contract ever will go down as one of the all-time worst trades in NFL history...
https://twitter.com/DylanEveryday/status/1832920610063987192
You come to realize over time that some teams are just unlucky and some teams are just ran by complete retards.
Some teams just have incredibly lucky, who happen to unknowingly draft a couple of generational talents at a few key positions and ride that pony until it gives out.
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Oh for sure. But at least Herschel still had it a little bit. DeShaun Watson is absolutely washed. Stick a fork in him, he’s done.
Yeah, the Herschel trade is remembered as bad because of how well Dallas did with the picks they got. That was no guarantee
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https://twitter.com/Jschreiber272/status/1833554403225161912
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https://twitter.com/Jschreiber272/status/1833554403225161912
To be fair, the NFL gave Josh Gordon like 11 chances. It's not the NFL's fault he squandered them all.
And it's not the NFL's fault that Watson is being paid $250M. That's just Cleveland doing Cleveland things :57:
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To be fair, the NFL gave Josh Gordon like 11 chances. It's not the NFL's fault he squandered them all.
And it's not the NFL's fault that Watson is being paid $250M. That's just Cleveland doing Cleveland things :57:
HORSESHIT they never asked us,a No 1straight up for that miscreant was a drubbing but they had to keep on going and make sure any Browns fan 60 and over prolly goes toes up before they get back to an AFC CG :banghead:
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https://twitter.com/SirYacht_/status/1833689383758635478
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Classify him as a pet, and let the Haitians living in Ohio eat him?
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Classify him as a pet, and let the Haitians living in Ohio eat him?
Too much massage oil ruins the taste
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At least he's not Johnny Football.
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The people who run the Browns may be rich, but they're dumb as fuck. Their record reflects that.
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And it's not the NFL's fault that Watson is being paid $250M. That's just Cleveland doing Cleveland things :57:
HORSESHIT they never asked us,a No 1straight up for that miscreant was a drubbing but they had to keep on going and make sure any Browns fan 60 and over prolly goes toes up before they get back to an AFC CG :banghead:
The people who run the Browns may be rich, but they're dumb as fuck. Their record reflects that.
Ya but we knew that when the the deal was made only ya left out stick a fotk in the BROWNS also
As a life-long Clevelander, the Browns are just depressing.
When they came back after leaving town they made the same stupid mistake repeatedly of chasing a superstar. I honestly think that a lot of those guys starting with Tim Couch probably could have had successful careers if they had been on teams with talent around them but they got ruined by playing behind Cleveland's porous O-lines.
Then finally things started coming together. They spent a few years building a team and they had a really good D and they were getting there and then . . .
They mortgaged the future of the entire franchise to give a massive guaranteed contract to a guy who just isn't that good. That contract would scare me even if he was a superstar but he simply isn't and now the franchise is cooked for a decade.
On top of all of that the guy is apparently a serial rapist.
Oh, and they want the taxpayers to foot the bill for a new stadium.
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Tua needs to retire before he dies on the field
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Tua needs to retire before he dies on the field
He needs to retire if he wants to be able to cognitively function and eat solid foods at the age of 35.
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If I was his dad, my advice would be to hang 'em up.
He's got a national title, played at the highest level, and has plenty of money from his Bama playing days.
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He needs to retire if he wants to be able to cognitively function and eat solid foods at the age of 35.
He went to an SEC school, not sure that's on the table anyway
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he would be a fool to keep playing. NFL needs to step in and give him a severance package and tell him he can no longer play because of head trauma injuries.
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his agent wants him to play
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Wonder what incentive he may have
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his agent wants him to play
doubt it. his agent will get paid even if Tua retires right now, that fat contract his agent just negotiated for Tua was loaded with guaranteed dollars. pretty sure the agent has a relationship with the person and not just the player.
anyone not advising Tua to hang them up is an evil person. the guy has had 4 "official" concussions that were quite severe in the past 5 years where the guy was twitching and convulsing and looked like he was dying out on the field and at the very least another concussion that wasn't properly diagnosed with that "back injury" he had vs the Bills that the Dolphins covered up. The players are going to want to play, they are warriors, competitors- but the team doctors and NFL has an obligation to player safety and to protect the player from himself. Dolphins failed there.
the damage he's done to his brain is irreversible, it's not worth risking any more damage and the more concussions he gets the worse his brain injury is going to be. he's got to think about what his quality of life when he's older will be like. does he really want to be 45 suffering from severe CTE and dementia?
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4 sacks already for Hutchinson today. Offense needs to actually punch something in, defense carrying them
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4 sacks already for Hutchinson today. Offense needs to actually punch something in, defense carrying them
Needed it. Didn't need a St. Brown injury. I have St. Brown, Gibbs and LaPorta in fantasy, and Montgomery keeps vulturing TDs
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Vikings about to be alone in 1st in the NFC North
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Still 11 minutes left but I like your line of thinking - not the Vikes but the Niners getting deep sixed
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Panthers going to contend with the 0-16 Lions for one of the worst teams ever I think. Man they suck.
It’s still early but man Bryce Young is looking like one of the worst #1 overall picks ever.
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Manziel,Weedan & the Browns all say hello
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Manziel,Weedan & the Browns all say hello
Neither one was a #1 overall pick
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Sorry but they would have just take a look at what jimmy hasbeen shelled out for Watson on top of those two imposters. Real QB whisperer he is
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Worst game of Jared Goffs career
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Freakin' Browns gonna blow it after winning all day
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Worst game of Jared Goffs career
I can’t get the lionsdown here in Florida even when they’re playing a Florida based team. But I followed along on the ESPN app and my friends have texted me and basically said he sucked pretty badly today.
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Freakin' Browns gonna blow it after winning all day
Got a flag and starting to rain - maybe not with 38 seconds left
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I can’t get the lionsdown here in Florida even when they’re playing a Florida based team. But I followed along on the ESPN app and my friends have texted me and basically said he sucked pretty badly today.
He wasnt just bad, he was incredibly stupid.
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Want Deshaun?
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Want Deshaun?
If he ever asked that question, hed be in less hot water
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So Marvin Harrison Jr. took 2 weeks to be that dude
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Worst game of Jared Goffs career
agreed. that L is on him. defense only gave up 20 pts.
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So Marvin Harrison Jr. took 2 weeks to be that dude
he was open week 1, Kyler never threw him the ball.
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https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1835400212506161273
https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1835374239727112698
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https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1835400212506161273
https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1835374239727112698
Beast. Sad the Lions wasted that.
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he was open week 1, Kyler never threw him the ball.
Wide open. For game winner. 😖
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SKOL!!!
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Da Bears aren't supposed to look like Da Chefs
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Someone help me out here. Round about 10-12 years ago there was a play in the NFL where the QB threw a pick, and on the run back the QB was casually jogging back upfield in the direction of the play but nowhere near the action. He was leveled by a defensive player, possibly a guy maybe named Sam or something. I think the QB was a high profile guy. There was a lot of discussion about the hit being dirty and back and forth about how he was no longer a QB but a defensive player and he should’ve been paying attention and so forth.
Anyways we were discussing this and I couldn’t remember the players and the details.
Anybody remember?
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I remember it but not the name.
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I remember it but not the name.
You're such a big help ! :)
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Glad to help!
Caleb Williams sucks. Does that help?
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1835499214614286431
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utee?
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1835444038540951687
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Glad to help!
Caleb Williams sucks. Does that help?
https://twitter.com/SleeperHQ/status/1835526457939877898
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1835538258647773412
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I sometimes wonder how good Nico and DPJ might've been in college if they had a) an actual WR coach- Michigan literally didn't have a WR coach while those guys were there- they had some G/A's coach them and b) actual QBs throwing them the football not Wilton Speight, John O'Korn, or Shea Patterson.
Nico got himself a real life QB in the league with CJ Stroud throwing him dimes and a real life WR coach (Josh McDaniels' brother). DPJ has not been so fortunate- and still hasn't seemed to learn how to run routes effectively.
https://twitter.com/WolverineChron/status/1835691054814646317
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Glad to help!
Caleb Williams sucks. Does that help?
If you keep using high draft picks on can't-miss surefire quarterbacks and they all fail you...
...maybe it's not the QBs that are the problem?
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If you keep using high draft picks on can't-miss surefire quarterbacks and they all fail you...
...maybe it's not the QBs that are the problem?
This is the problem.
(https://i.imgur.com/JJs4EyH.jpeg)
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utee?
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1835444038540951687
Heh... definitely sounds like something I might have done 20 years ago, if smart phones were ubiquitous and air drop had existed 20 years ago.
Luckily I was getting the house ready for my son's 15th birthday party and didn't watch the game. I consider myself blessed.
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This is the problem.
(https://i.imgur.com/JJs4EyH.jpeg)
Agreed.
Caleb Williams is probably pretty good. Looks like he's got the ability to make all the throws, and when I say "ALL" the throws, I'm talking about some that >50% of the starting QBs in the NFL couldn't make.
But instead he's thrust into a system that has ruined quarterbacks for generations and because they ran their last high draft pick QB out of town he's forced to start as a rookie. He's going to be shell-shocked by Thanksgiving.
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Heh... definitely sounds like something I might have done 20 years ago, if smart phones were ubiquitous and air drop had existed 20 years ago.
Luckily I was getting the house ready for my son's 15th birthday party and didn't watch the game. I consider myself blessed.
Cowboys have way too much talent to be getting blown out at home by the Saints.
Jerry is obviously problem #1 but Mike McCarthy gotta go. I think. Mike McCarthy is the main reason why an in his prime top 5 QB of all-time Aaron Rodgers with an in his prime all-time great defensive player like Charles Woodson and A+ pass rusher like Clay Matthews only won 1 Super Bowl. That squad should've had 2-4 Super Bowls....but....Mike McCarthy sucks.
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Freaking bungles knock me out of the survivor pool last week along with with 270 others and but up short vs the Chefs.They could have knocked out most of the others players in the pool. If no one player is left in the pool everyone gets back in
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Justin Fields may just turn out to be a real QB on a winning team now that he's escaped the QB hell that is the Chicago Bears...
https://twitter.com/ThePoniExpress/status/1835463938550448493
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https://twitter.com/Tom_D_Cat_/status/1835464611719413982
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Someone help me out here. Round about 10-12 years ago there was a play in the NFL where the QB threw a pick, and on the run back the QB was casually jogging back upfield in the direction of the play but nowhere near the action. He was leveled by a defensive player, possibly a guy maybe named Sam or something. I think the QB was a high profile guy. There was a lot of discussion about the hit being dirty and back and forth about how he was no longer a QB but a defensive player and he should’ve been paying attention and so forth.
Anyways we were discussing this and I couldn’t remember the players and the details.
Anybody remember?
TTT. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
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yes, I know what yer talkin bout but............
my memory isn't good enough for the particulars
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ummm...what Bill?
"I think that the Lions have built a really good offensive line for their quarterback, and they couldn't get a lot of production in the red area last week but that's something that Matt Patricia started and now they're kind of getting the fruits of the labor from him," Belichick said.
Taylor Decker and Graham Glasgow were drafted two years before Matt Patricia was ever the head coach of the Detroit Lions. And Glasgow had to leave Detroit because when his rookie deal was up that fucking clown Patricia gave him a ridiculous lowball offer. Glasgow is only back in Detroit right now because of Brad Holmes signing him in free agency last year. Brad Holmes drafted Penei Sewell, by far the best player on that o-line and he signed Kevin Zeitler in free agency this year. Frank Ragnow is the only guy on that OL that was drafted when Patricia was the head coach. And I'd hardly give the "defensive guru" credit for that one. You want to talk about Patricia, let's talk about all the other god awful draft picks the team had on defense and him running off All-Pro talent on that side of the ball like Darius Slay.
WTF is Bill Belichik smoking?
https://twitter.com/davebirkett/status/1836175224192077924
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You want to talk about Patricia, let's talk about all the other god awful draft picks
Yup Bellichik disciple
WTF is Bill Belichik smoking?
Same stuff he was puffing when he took Tommy Vardell and Graig Powell in the 1st round and ran Eric Metcalf up the middle 30 yrs ago with the Browns
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https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1836130931817472415
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https://twitter.com/BallFromGrace/status/1836548704536244509
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Really enjoyed the first 6-7 minutes of this discussing the Vikings defense. @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) as a fan, or anyone who loves geeking out on X's and O's stuff, it was a pretty good look at how defenses are disguising their coverages and pressures to not tip their hand before the snap...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYF7drKyC_w
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Dan Orlovsky thinks anyone who knows where out of bounds is is high IQ
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Dan Orlovsky thinks anyone who knows where out of bounds is is high IQ
You know the rule. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. :57:
Actually one of the funniest things to me about Orlovsky is he was making an offhand comment about Peloton during one episode, and so I tried to find his profile.
And I did! Then I got pissed off because his personal record outputs were higher than mine! I mean, FFS, he's just a damned quarterback!
And then I realized that maybe, just maybe, I shouldn't be comparing myself to a professional athlete who kicked around the NFL for a dozen years. Who, unlike Jay Cutler, probably believed that he needed to stay in shape to keep his job as an NFL [backup] QB.
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Really enjoyed the first 6-7 minutes of this discussing the Vikings defense. @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) as a fan, or anyone who loves geeking out on X's and O's stuff, it was a pretty good look at how defenses are disguising their coverages and pressures to not tip their hand before the snap...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYF7drKyC_w
this is why I miss Jesse Minter already *crying emoji* #WinkMartindaleSucks
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Dan Orlovsky thinks anyone who knows where out of bounds is is high IQ
yeah it’s crazy to see someone who was so ass at playing football talk about playing football.
but then again Brady is apparently really struggling in his new gig on Fox and well he was pretty damn good at playing football.
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https://twitter.com/BallFromGrace/status/1836548704536244509
funny meme.
I would not be surprised if the Chargers wind up in the AFC chip year one.
Joe Alt is already looking like an elite tackle and if JK Dobbins is healthy again he’s one of the more talented backs in the entire NFL. He had a great rookie season in Baltimore then barely played the next couple years because of injuries. It’s only two games in but he’s looking like his old self again. And he’s only 25 with not very many NFL carries on his body.
The defense has really nice pieces to work with and Jesse Minter is a young star DC who will be a head coach in the NFL in the next 2-3 years.
Jeem got himself a ball club down there in LA.
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yeah it’s crazy to see someone who was so ass at playing football talk about playing football.
but then again Brady is apparently really struggling in his new gig on Fox and well he was pretty damn good at playing football.
Same as coaching. I think the guys who are the best just have so much natural ability, they struggle to communicate it to others, because they just "did" it.
Granted, I don't know if that's necessarily Brady. I think Brady's issue is that he's never done it. He went straight from the field to the #1 team. Some guys might be able to do that, but not many. He might be fine in time. Problem is I thought Greg Olson was REALLY good, and it sucks he got moved down
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Well, it's easy to clown on Orlovsky because he wasn't good enough to be an NFL starter. And of course the end line thing :57:
But let's be real. Dan Orlovsky is not a suck-ass QB. Per his wiki, he was talented enough to receive offers from P5 schools, Purdue and Michigan State. He obviously balled out in college to the extent that he was drafted. He was obviously talented enough as a backup to kick around for 12 years in the NFL. That means that at any given time during that span, he was up there within roughly the top 100 QBs in the world beyond the age of 21.
But top 100 isn't what you need to be to be a starter in the NFL. You need to be top 32.
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Really enjoyed the first 6-7 minutes of this discussing the Vikings defense. @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) as a fan, or anyone who loves geeking out on X's and O's stuff, it was a pretty good look at how defenses are disguising their coverages and pressures to not tip their hand before the snap...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYF7drKyC_w
Good stuff. Apparently Illinois disguises their coverages until post snap. We'll see how true frosh Raiola handles that tomorrow night
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New England's offense definitely sucks but they do have a legit defense, and Rodgers looked very sharp against that defense and made some truly ridiculous throws. That NY Jets team is only going to get better throughout the season imo.
this is a little wild considering how long he's played in the NFL...
https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1836969025240240354
also....still a d-bag....
https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1836935074702385304
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plenty of good WRs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds
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also....still a d-bag....
https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1836935074702385304
I don't know, looks to me like he's treating him like family
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also....still a d-bag....
https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1836935074702385304
What an ungateful peckerhead
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Well said
https://footballscoop.com/news/mel-kiper-says-the-nfl-should-outlaw-two-high-safeties
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Well said
https://footballscoop.com/news/mel-kiper-says-the-nfl-should-outlaw-two-high-safeties
Outlaw two high safeties? Wtf?
Game is completely geared towards offense as is. Might as well outlaw tackling next.
Mel Kiper is an idiot. And why is he still on ESPN he’s like 179 years old and no one cared what he thought back then and they sure as hell don’t care today.
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Well said
https://footballscoop.com/news/mel-kiper-says-the-nfl-should-outlaw-two-high-safeties
Uhh, "ban" two high? No.
Two high is just a part of the ebb and flow. Keep sitting in two high, and you dare teams to run it right into your face.
And they're doing it. And it's working.
https://www.matchquarters.com/p/where-is-the-offense-in-the-nfl
Eventually teams are going to have to realize they have to stop the run to win. The situation will handle itself.
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https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/jim-harbaugh-uses-cold-tub-in-full-outfit-chargers-joey-bosa-says/
(https://i.imgur.com/xbQ87z0.png)
He never fails to entertain :57:
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I generally don't think illegal defense types of rules are great for the game, as they seem sort of fake. But, the NFL has changed the rules so much to favor the passing game that when the passing numbers go down, the overall product looks really rough. No one wants to watch a guy drop back 30 times to throw short routes that go no where. So some rule changes that encourage big plays and rushing the ball would be great. Not particularly sure what those would look like, but I think overall it would make the NFL more interesting to watch.
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https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/jim-harbaugh-uses-cold-tub-in-full-outfit-chargers-joey-bosa-says/
(https://i.imgur.com/xbQ87z0.png)
He never fails to entertain :57:
he's a full blown weirdo....but he's genuine and it works for him. players can sniff out inauthenticity and fakery in an instant. Jeem might be lot of things- but he ain't that. Jeem's players all love him for the most part and he truly loves them. Most especially the ones that are the true football guys. Which is why you see guys like Bosa, Derwin James, Khalil Mack, and Justin Herbert rave about Jeem and you can see that culture changing in real-time in a hurry.
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Uhh, "ban" two high? No.
Two high is just a part of the ebb and flow. Keep sitting in two high, and you dare teams to run it right into your face.
And they're doing it. And it's working.
https://www.matchquarters.com/p/where-is-the-offense-in-the-nfl
Eventually teams are going to have to realize they have to stop the run to win. The situation will handle itself.
Yeah, I meant well said to the article, not Kiper
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Yeah, I meant well said to the article, not Kiper
Figured you meant as much.
I don’t get why Kiper is still there. What dirt does he have on Disney execs? They damn near fired everyone at ESPN except him. Why is he still there?
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https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1832856117992468734
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https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1837549046787092670
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Caleb Williams 16-27 for 216 yards in the first HALF...
...and the Bears have 0 points
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Caleb Williams 16-27 for 216 yards in the first HALF...
...and the Bears have 0 points
Well….2 Interceptions and a couple of bad sacks…
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Steelers may have themselves a QB.
Fields 25/32 for 245, TD plus a rushing TD as they dump Chargers.
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Steelers may have themselves a QB.
Fields 25/32 for 245, TD plus a rushing TD as they dump Chargers.
Mike Tomlin is a real head coach and Steelers are an actual organization. Amazing what being away from the Bears will do for a QB.
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Daniel Jones just walking into Cleveland, throwing for 236 and beating the Browns. Cleveland might trade their whole draft for him now
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Steelers may have themselves a QB.
Fields 25/32 for 245, TD plus a rushing TD as they dump Chargers.
Fields gets booger for CJ :cheer: not many times I pull for the squeelers usually the opponent or the meteor
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Daniel Jones just walking into Cleveland, throwing for 236 and beating the Browns. Cleveland might trade their whole draft for him now
Please delete that andrew barry and jimmy hasbeen might get ideas - and they don't deserve caps
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Lions defense remains completely baffled by mobile QBs
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Lions defense remains completely baffled by mobile QBs
So frustrating to not be able watch the Lions, almost ever. In South Florida- at least on this east side-they televise any team but Detroit. Even last week when they were playing a Florida team (Tampa).
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Lions totally bailed out there
3rd and 12 draw play > trusting Goff vs. the blitz
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Lions totally bailed out there
3rd and 12 draw play > trusting Goff vs. the blitz
In his defense he’s having a huge bounce back game and playing great after playing maybe the worst game of his career in Detroit. If he was even mediocre last week they probably win.
Lions are taking care of business so far on the road, have to close it out.
They won’t have a pick high enough to get either of them but man I’d sure love to see Will Johnson or Mason Graham on this defense next year.
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He's great with a clean pocket
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So uh, Cowboys?
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Lions defense remains completely baffled by mobile QBs
Well Kyler is a 5 foot midget that is quick as fuck and pretty fast…he’s a hard little son of a bitch to get on the ground when he’s running around back there. Probably why he can at least play at this level meanwhile Bryce Young who is of similar size has been ass and getting benched…doesn’t have that insane athleticism Kyler has. Dude was a #1 overall pick in the NFL and a top 10 pick in the MLB. Insane athlete.
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So uh, Cowboys?
This was a do or die game for the Ravens and you just knew that Lamar wasn’t going to let his team start 0-3.
Maybe Jerry should stop drafting players based on their dick size and hire a real GM and stay his ass at home…
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Bryce Young gets benched for a 57 year old Andy Dalton and Carolina up 21-7 at the half. Maybe he is just too small to play at this level and he just sucks?
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Gonna be a long, bad season for the Cowboys.
Ah well, leaves me time to get other stuff done on Sundays.
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Bryce Young gets benched for a 57 year old Andy Dalton and Carolina up 21-7 at the half. Maybe he is just too small to play at this level and he just sucks?
I read there is talk, other teams are interested in him. ??🧐
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Ravens curb stomping Cowboys. Lamar is so fun to watch.
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Seen at the Brown's Game.
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Ravens curb stomping Cowboys. Lamar is so fun to watch.
Cowboys saying. “ not so fast my friend “
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Bryce Young gets benched for a 57 year old Andy Dalton and Carolina up 21-7 at the half. Maybe he is just too small to play at this level and he just sucks?
Dayum losing to them...at home,WTH carolina is just pathetic
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Falcons wasting top ten picks on QB2s and they should have taken a lineman. Bijan has nothing to work with
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Falcons wasting top ten picks on QB2s and they should have taken a lineman. Bijan has nothing to work with
it's even worse because Kirk has all that guaranteed money plus a full no-trade clause so they are stuck with him for probably at least 3 years and they can't just cut bait because they'd be in salary cap hell- and they can't just trade him because: full no trade clause....so especially on QB2's that are already like 25 because they were in college for 20 years because they kept getting injured and have shit ton of injuries/milage on their body already. Penix isn't going to start until he's like 28 or 29 and that body already has ton of scar tissue/milage on it....he ain't playing til 45 like Tom Brady.
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https://twitter.com/PickensBurgh/status/1837939356885020811
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1838039139754615272
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1838022228056637841
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https://twitter.com/Haas_Football/status/1837921309113950464
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Lions needed this guy to break the NFC chip ceiling and make a SB run. Not ideal. Need to draft an EDGE rusher in the 1st rd in the '25 draft.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1838267944536571989
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gonna be a long season for Caleb Williams....
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1838052175735394394
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gonna be a long season for Caleb Williams....
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1838052175735394394
Man, it seems like it hardly ever pays to be a top QB drafted to a team that's going to start you immediately. I mean....technically it pays, but you know what I mean...
A lot of the examples that come to mind from the last 10+ years have been awful situations, often with disastrously crappy O-lines. Hard enough to transition to the NFL and be a good QB in your first year or two, but add in throwing the kid on a team that got to draft him really early for a reason and asking him to mask those deficiencies? Yikes.
I guess the era of drafting an Aaron Rodgers and sitting him behind the current guy for 3-4 years is over.
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That said, Williams IS trending up, at least statistically:
(https://i.imgur.com/EpQa1Mq.png)
Week to week improvements in CMP%, Y/A, rating & QBR...
And it's happening with increases in attempts week to week.
Of course, the increases are from a low floor...
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QBs eat up too much of the salary cap, so you can't waste their cheap years on their rookie contracts, when you can actually afford to put a team around him
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1838428511104626913
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https://twitter.com/HarbaughsBolts/status/1838367750923931732
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The Panthers are dreadful, much of it pointing back to former Panthers GM Scott Fitterer, the worst NFL GM in recent years. After Bryce Young is benched, and Andy Dalton steps in to win last Sunday, it’s evident how bad of a move it was to trade up for Young.
1. Trades up to draft Bryce Young, now benched, while the Bears in turn take: Franchise QB Caleb Williams, impact WR DJ Moore, Starting RT Darnell Wright, Starting Corner Tyrique Stephens, and a 2nd Rnd Pick for 2025. Articles can be found (https://sports.yahoo.com/bryce-young-trade-will-continue-to-haunt-the-carolina-panthers-for-years-192639163.html) asking how long this will haunt the Panthers.
2. Trades RB Christian McCaffery during his prime to the 49ers in exchange for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Rnd picks for 2023 and a 5th Rnd pick for 2024. Articles can be found (https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/is-the-christian-mccaffrey-trade-the-worst-of-all-time) asking if this is the worst trade of all time.
3. Trades for Brian Burns for one year while the Panthers get 2024 1st Rnd pick, 2nd Rnd pick for 2025, and 4th Rnd pick for 2026.
Scott Fitterer was fired last January.
I point all this out to ask our Nebraska fans (@FearlessF) what their consensus is about Matt Rhule's time at Carolina? Rhule was blamed for much before and after his unceremonious firing, but in retrospect, maybe he made the best of a losing situation? He went 5-12 in both full years there, and that seems much better than what the Panthers are lately.
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I never really got the Matt Rhule deal. What did he do to deserve his pay? Sure, he got Temple pretty good, and he did OK with Baylor for one season.
(https://i.imgur.com/ofuGwGf.png)
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I never really got the Matt Rhule deal. What did he do to deserve his pay? Sure, he got Temple pretty good, and he did OK with Baylor for one season.
(https://i.imgur.com/ofuGwGf.png)
Turned around dumpster fires. It looks to be happening in Lincoln.
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I point all this out to ask our Nebraska fans (@FearlessF) what their consensus is about Matt Rhule's time at Carolina? Rhule was blamed for much before and after his unceremonious firing, but in retrospect, maybe he made the best of a losing situation? He went 5-12 in both full years there, and that seems much better than what the Panthers are lately.
Rhule seems a program builder in college
time with the Panthers????
1st the NFL is a different animal - ask Spurrier
the Panther's owner seems to have issues
Rhule seems better suited for the college game
it's too early to tell but Husker fans have their fingers crossed
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https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1840452415348203658
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Browns get a scoop and score then miss the PAT :91: 20-16 Raiders
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I point all this out to ask our Nebraska fans (@FearlessF) what their consensus is about Matt Rhule's time at Carolina? Rhule was blamed for much before and after his unceremonious firing, but in retrospect, maybe he made the best of a losing situation? He went 5-12 in both full years there, and that seems much better than what the Panthers are lately.
I heard even on NFL podcast sites the owner is a knot head and they gave examples that were legit
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I have no views, I watch close to no NFL and last snap of Carolina football was casually seeing their super bowl appearance.
I recall more of Ruhle's temple tenure.
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Freakin Browns get an 82 yd TD called back on very questionable call :banghead:
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go pack go
suckers
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Ravens just absolutely destroying the 3-0 Bills. didn't expect that. Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson on a mission tonight.
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1840497120685527490
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(https://i.imgur.com/JX9J129.jpeg)
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https://twitter.com/WorldofIsaac/status/1840410779792593354
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1840497120685527490
Saw someone say at least his season ended doing what he loves, being involved in a catastrophic incident, and leaving the scene
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https://twitter.com/WorldofIsaac/status/1840410779792593354
NFL is an absolute joke…least they didn’t suspend him right before a game vs Kansas City like they did to Derwin James…
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Aaron Glenn is a bad defensive co-ordinator. I know he’s your buddy MCDC but he’s got to go….
Carlton Davis is a solid starting NFL CB. DK Metcalf might be the most physically gifted receiver in the entire league. Leaving Carlton Davis in man coverage on DK is kind of a horrible idea. The dude is a really good solid starting NFL corner, he’s not Darrelle Revis…
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DK Metcalf is such a whiny bitch for a guy who gets every call
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DK Metcalf is such a whiny bitch for a guy who gets every call
yes he is, and it’s more pathetic and hilarious because he’s a giant. he’s all of 6’3/6’4 and 235-240 pounds and pure muscle.
More and more NFL QBs and WRs are turning into NBA players who whine and cry to the refs like pussies every time someone sneezes near them. Mahomes and Kelcee have perfected this art form.
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I kinda like these Lions uniforms. Especially the helmets.
Which is weird because I'm usually a pretty big traditionalist.
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yes he is, and it’s more pathetic and hilarious because he’s a giant. he’s all of 6’3/6’4 and 235-240 pounds and pure muscle.
More and more NFL QBs and WRs are turning into NBA players who whine and cry to the refs like pussies every time someone sneezes near them. Mahomes and Kelcee have perfected this art form.
Hes like the Zach Edey of the NFL. If you want to call.it, its a foul on both him and the guy guarding him every single play
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DK would have bitched for PI if a defender did what he did to deflect that interception
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What is Geno Smith still whining about?
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(https://i.imgur.com/AXLrcIi.jpeg)
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So one team is trim and ready to go and the Vikings are unprepared slobs?
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one team really doesn't belong but, here we are
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Raiders reportedly shopping Davante Adams. Not interested in him for Detroit but if they are already giving up on the season and building for the future and I’m Brad Holmes I’m calling them asking about Maxx Crosby. Crosby + Hutch would be UNREAL. I think that move would make Lions SB favorites to be honest. Not sure how it goes done or if it’s even possible, but that’s a move that puts them over the top imo.
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Raiders reportedly shopping Davante Adams. Not interested in him for Detroit but if they are already giving up on the season and building for the future and I’m Brad Holmes I’m calling them asking about Maxx Crosby. Crosby + Hutch would be UNREAL. I think that move would make Lions SB favorites to be honest. Not sure how it goes done or if it’s even possible, but that’s a move that puts them over the top imo.
Yes, I said this last year when they were rumored to be shopping him. It depends on price, because if you are paying for Crosby, just as a guy who can negate double teams, you could probably get that dude for cheaper.
A year ago, I thought Hutch was a legit top 10-15 rush end, but now he's in that elite top 5 category. I don't think you necessarily need to pair him with another top 10 guy, you just need to pair him with a dude who can prevent double teams, and if they still do, he can take advantage
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Yes, I said this last year when they were rumored to be shopping him. It depends on price, because if you are paying for Crosby, just as a guy who can negate double teams, you could probably get that dude for cheaper.
A year ago, I thought Hutch was a legit top 10-15 rush end, but now he's in that elite top 5 category. I don't think you necessarily need to pair him with another top 10 guy, you just need to pair him with a dude who can prevent double teams, and if they still do, he can take advantage
Yeah but imagine pairing him with another elite dude that’s only 27 years old. At that point it’s like who do you block? Can’t double both those guys ever snap.
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Yeah, obviously hes great, but you will have to give something to get him. I'm more inclined to just add a dude who can prevent Hutch from getting double teamed
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Raiders reportedly shopping Davante Adams. Not interested in him for Detroit but if they are already giving up on the season and building for the future and I’m Brad Holmes I’m calling them asking about Maxx Crosby. Crosby + Hutch would be UNREAL. I think that move would make Lions SB favorites to be honest. Not sure how it goes done or if it’s even possible, but that’s a move that puts them over the top imo.
(https://i.imgur.com/T5ubP0Z.jpeg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/T5ubP0Z.jpeg)
Nah.
Minnesota had a hot start but….Darnold gonna Darnold and this whacky defensive shell Flores has been playing will get figured out by the end of the year.
Minnesota going to fall back to the middle imo.
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I'm enjoying the wave while I can.
(https://i.imgur.com/jwj2s0g.png)
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Nah.
Minnesota had a hot start but….Darnold gonna Darnold and this whacky defensive shell Flores has been playing will get figured out by the end of the year.
Minnesota going to fall back to the middle imo.
Old bitter Mdot squawking bombast as the Lions looking up at the Vikes
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he speaks the truth
Hutch needs help
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Adams contract might work for the Lions or anyone. He only has 15M dead cap after 2024 (and I think 8M after 2025). So if price is right and you could get out before Goff's contract kicks in.
The Raiders are unwatchable this year but I watched Adams the previous 2 seasons and really didn't appriciate how good he was on the Packers. If he hasn't lost a step at 32, eh might be worth if if you are making a run.
HAWT TAEK: 39 year old Joe Flacco is better than 40 year old Aaron Rodgers. Prove me wrong.
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Adams contract might work for the Lions or anyone. He only has 15M dead cap after 2024 (and I think 8M after 2025). So if price is right and you could get out before Goff's contract kicks in.
The Raiders are unwatchable this year but I watched Adams the previous 2 seasons and really didn't appriciate how good he was on the Packers. If he hasn't lost a step at 32, eh might be worth if if you are making a run.
HAWT TAEK: 39 year old Joe Flacco is better than 40 year old Aaron Rodgers. Prove me wrong.
I said I wouldn’t be interested in Adams at all for the Lions. Amon-Ra is the chain mover and Jamo is looking like the electric big play star they thought he could be when they moved up to get him. They don’t need Adams at all. They need some receivers, but more for depth and fillings certain roles. Probably the only dude on the Raiders I’d want for Detroit right now is Crosby. Pair him with Hutch and look out.
I don’t think Flacco is better than Rodgers at all. Rodgers has a shoddy OL and a clown head coach. Colts have better OL and a better head coach imo. And it’s not really that Steichen is anything so amazing or special- Saleh is just that in over his head and that bad imo.
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Good thing I started Purdy over Cousins in my dynasty league
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FKC
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Kirk Cousins is great at filling up stat sheets and putrid at actually winning football games that matter. No one I know was sad to see Cousins leave.
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I'm not
I'm elated!
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I gather he had a good night last night (I didn't watch).
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He wins a lot of fantasy matchups...again, if you play him
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Im worried I might get flagged for PI on Justin Jefferson, just for watching him
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At least the Falcons won't lose today. Probably.
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My main takeaway from these London games is they clearly think Sweet Caroline is played at every American sporting event. They arent totally right, but not totally wrong either
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My main takeaway from these London games is they clearly think Sweet Caroline is played at every American sporting event. They arent totally right, but not totally wrong either
Really - that honor goes to "We Will Rock You"
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the Cowgirls or the squeelers are gonna lose tonight
I hope
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the Cowgirls or the squeelers are gonna lose tonight
I hope
‘‘twas the Steelers. Cowboys almost had to win that one- they’d have dropped to 2-4 with a loss. Might’ve just turned around their season with that one. Dak came up clutch in the 4th.
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My main takeaway from these London games is they clearly think Sweet Caroline is played at every American sporting event. They arent totally right, but not totally wrong either
my take away is they are dumb and stupid and that people in the UK don’t really give a shit about American football.
I’m totally cool with no more NFL games in London or Brazil. I’m pretty sure the players would be as well.
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yup
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The Bears play the Jags in London next weekend.
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The Bears play the Jags in London next weekend.
how exciting for the people of the UK…they get to watch two of the sorriest franchises and crappiest teams in the NFL live.
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the Cowgirls or the squeelers are gonna lose tonight
I hope
lulzpoorhaterz
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Bears are starting to look better at least.
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‘‘twas the Steelers. Cowboys almost had to win that one- they’d have dropped to 2-4 with a loss. Might’ve just turned around their season with that one. Dak came up clutch in the 4th.
Yeah pretty much every non-division game is a must-win for the Cowboys. The Eagles have been decent for a while and now Washington is fielding a real live football team for the first time in decades maybe. NFC East isn't the cake walk it has been in recent memory.
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Bears are starting to look better at least.
playing Carolina will do that...
Bears other wins were vs Tennessee who has probably the worst starting QB in the entire league in Will Levis now that Bryce Young got benched and a completely depleted injury riddled 1-4 Rams team starting guys that were probably driving trucks a couple weeks ago on their OL. Stafford has to be a superhero every week just keep that Rams team competitive in games.
Bears get to play the Jags who also suck, but after that their schedule is about to get a lot tougher.
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Yeah pretty much every non-division game is a must-win for the Cowboys. The Eagles have been decent for a while and now Washington is fielding a real live football team for the first time in decades maybe. NFC East isn't the cake walk it has been in recent memory.
agreed. Jayden Daniels looking like the best rookie QB so far by a wide margin.
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He wouldn't look as good if he was a Bear.
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So... the Bears still suck?
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Yes, just a little less suckage.
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Personally I've always liked the Bears. Probably because of Mike Ditka.
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I don't follow them (or the NFL) as much as I used to (pre-woke).
It's just background noise on the TV while there is no golf to watch.
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I prefer the college version of every sport, to its professional counterpart. But football is still the greatest sport on the planet, so I catch NFL games when I can. I'm certainly not nearly the fan I was two decades ago, but that's true for college football as well.
Golf = rat's ass.
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I thought MLB was rat's ass??
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I thought MLB was rat's ass??
It is. So is NBA.
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I don't follow them (or the NFL) as much as I used to (pre-woke).
It's just background noise on the TV while there is no golf to watch.
Being a Browns fan and having kids made this life transition easier for me as well.
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I've gone the opposite way the more college has just turned into a shittier version of the professional game in all sports.
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I've gone the opposite way the more college has just turned into a shittier version of the professional game in all sports.
I get this too. Sports growing up and in my 20's were the center of my universe and how I spent my time. As it has been saturated with money and garbage influence, i'll set aside time to watch a big game or two but I don't plan my entire life around it.. which honestly, isn't the worst thing in the world either. My kids enjoy them and family being the center of the universe.
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College football isn't as great as it used to be and I lose a little more interest each year. But it's still more interesting than the NFL.
My opinion, obviously.
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Robert Saleh fired
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I blame Rogers
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I blame Rogers
He's part of it. The offense has been brutal. They took Zach Wilson 1-2. Then brought in Rodgers, who got hurt, and then has been bad. The defense has arguably been the best in the league over the past 4 years, but they've never had a QB. Probably should have taken Sewell or Parsons with that pick.
He is going to be HIGHLY sought after as a DC next year though
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Rodgers is the coach now.
Saleh was a clown show as HC. Nothing wrong with being an elite DC. Not every one is cut out for head coach. He clearly wasn’t.
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Rodgers is the coach now.
Saleh was a clown show as HC. Nothing wrong with being an elite DC. Not every one is cut out for head coach. He clearly wasn’t.
If Aaron Glenn gets a HC job, throw a pile of money at him to come home as Lions DC
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If Aaron Glenn gets a HC job, throw a pile of money at him to come home as Lions DC
I PRAY someone is dumb enough to hire Aaron Glenn and take him off the Lions hands. And yea if that happens Saleh would be a home run DC hire. Was great as San Fran’s DC and Jets have had awesome defenses under him. It’s the whole managing the entire roster and hiring competent OC and offensive staff that he was shit at. Not everyone can do that. As just a DC and play caller? That’d be a huge upgrade over Glenn if Lions could pull that off somehow.
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In the 1985 divisional-round playoff, LA Raiders linebacker Matt Millen punched New England Patriots GM Patrick Sullivan after the Patriots' 27-20 upset win. The altercation was reportedly sparked by Sullivan's trash talking about Raiders player Howie Long during the game.
(https://i.imgur.com/k8KXI3c.png)
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Kirk Cousins threw for 500+ yards last week, and Sam Darnold won NFC Offensive Player of the Month for September.
Imagine how good the Vikings and Falcons might be if they had used their top 10 picks on additional talent to surround those dudes with, rather than backup QBs
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Vikings had to unload Cousins salary
getting a deal with Darnold and able to spend those $$$ to put talent around him and more so on the defense
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Vikings had to unload Cousins salary
getting a deal with Darnold and able to spend those $$$ to put talent around him and more so on the defense
The defense has been a amazing. I just mean, if they had known what they had with Darnold, maybe take an OL or another defensive piece with that 1st round pick. Certainly Atlanta should have
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oh, agreed on McCarthy
he might flop
I always think you should build the trenches
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Falcons taking Penix in the top 10 was stupid because: Penix has a long injury history and is already like 25 or 26 AND oh yeah they signed Kirk Cousins to be their QB to a huge stupid fat fully guaranteed $200 million contract. They can't move on from Kirk or they are in salary cap hell. They're stuck with him for 3-4 years and what Penix will be nearly 30 by the time he actually gets to play? Dumb.
Vikings taking McCarthy was not. They needed a QB. Period. Sam Darnold was a massive bust and failure in the NFL before these last 4 or 5 games. And....it's 4 or 5 games....everyone needs to relax. The old suck ass Sam Darnold we know and love still might be in there somewhere. JJ was looking great in the pre-season until he got injured. It happens. Sitting a year actually is the best thing a young QB in the NFL can do. Starting them right away is what breaks 90%+ of them.
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I wasn't too high on McCarthy in the draft but if Darnold balls out the whole season then its a great pick because it gives the Vikings leverage.
Without leverage the Vikings would be paying an extra 50-75M.
Also if Darnold is your guy, I was yes not high on McCarthy but he's better than the entire 2025 crop and could fetch a No1 and a No.3 after you sign Darnold.
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Falcons taking Penix in the top 10 was stupid because: Penix has a long injury history and is already like 25 or 26 AND oh yeah they signed Kirk Cousins to be their QB to a huge stupid fat fully guaranteed $200 million contract. They can't move on from Kirk or they are in salary cap hell. They're stuck with him for 3-4 years and what Penix will be nearly 30 by the time he actually gets to play? Dumb.
Falcons doing one of those moves is perfectly fine. Doing both of those is seven shades of flagrant stupidity.
Michael Lombardi has only needed to produce 1 segment of original podcast material a week since the draft. The rest of the show has been fragging the Falcons and the Jets.
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The cowgirls suck
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The cowgirls suck
You suck.
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Definitely looks like Aidan Hutchinson broke his leg. That sucks
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Crap, other than Goff, thats the most irreplaceable piece
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Injury sounds terrible. I didn't see it real time and I'm glad I didn't.
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Now gonget Maxx Crosby
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Injury sounds terrible. I didn't see it real time and I'm glad I didn't.
Looked bad. 🤮
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Dallas looks like they have zero interest in playing. OL getting abused, defense shying away from tackles
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Suddenly the Washington C-words are the only competent team in the NFC East.
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Suddenly the Washington C-words are the only competent team in the NFC East.
Gross.
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Cowgirls suck
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Cowgirls suck
You suck.
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Jerry Jones is such a total clown. He absolutely refuses to close the blinds on that godawful huge window in that stupid stadium, and more than a few times, it's resulted in the Cowboys staring directly into the sun and making terrible plays.
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I have concluded the new kickoff rules are lame and make the game look stupid
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Crap, other than Goff, thats the most irreplaceable piece
QB is by far most important piece on an NFL team. Elite pass rusher is #2. Hutchinson was leading the NFL in sacks and pressures through 5 games.
It’s devastating blow to the Lions and just sucks to see someone who works as hard and puts as much into it and has the kind of motor and leadership and affect on the team as Hutch go down. He’s one of the main culture change guys in that locker room along with Amon-Ra, Penei, and Goff. Throw in Hutch those 4 are really the cornerstone pieces which have allowed the sorry Detroit Lions to change the culture and flip the entire program into a winner.
I’ll take beating the Cowboys but that injury is absolutely devastating for the Lions. They have to go get Maxx Crosby now before the trade deadline. They have no other consistent pass rush without Hutch.
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Jerry Jones is such a total clown. He absolutely refuses to close the blinds on that godawful huge window in that stupid stadium, and more than a few times, it's resulted in the Cowboys staring directly into the sun and making terrible plays.
Jerry cost the Cowboys who knows how many more Super Bowls with his stupid decisions. Never seen an owner in any sport want to be the GM/Coach so bad. I don’t get why more don’t follow the Bob Kraft model. Just hire one guy and pretty much stay out. Only time Kraft ever got involved is when Bill was trying to move on from Brady and Kraft old him no. That’s pretty much it.
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(https://i.imgur.com/9kP7crK.jpeg)
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Jerry cost the Cowboys who knows how many more Super Bowls with his stupid decisions. Never seen an owner in any sport want to be the GM/Coach so bad. I don’t get why more don’t follow the Bob Kraft model. Just hire one guy and pretty much stay out. Only time Kraft ever got involved is when Bill was trying to move on from Brady and Kraft old him no. That’s pretty much it.
I can't believe McCarthy is still employed.
Jimmy Johnson would have cut him at halftime.
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They lost by a bigger margin to the Saints earlier this season, also at home, so it's not Jerry's worst home loss. But who's counting, at this point.
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can't believe everything you see on FB????
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Jerry Jones is such a total clown. He absolutely refuses to close the blinds on that godawful huge window in that stupid stadium, and more than a few times, it's resulted in the Cowboys staring directly into the sun and making terrible plays.
Mrs. DeCowboys was very irritated about that and asked several times if that could've been shaded. I told her I thought so, but wasn't sure how the dome of that venue works.
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Mrs. DeCowboys was very irritated about that and asked several times if that could've been shaded. I told her I thought so, but wasn't sure how the dome of that venue works.
There are remote controlled shades/blinds that can cover that window. All it takes is the push of a button. JJ refuses to do it, time after time. Just a complete moron douchebag asshole.
It only ever becomes a factor in 3:30 games, especially ones in October and later, where the sun is setting in the second half. It's okay to build an east-west stadium if it's a dome, but if you're not using the dome's capabilities to block the westering sun, then it's just an act of sheer stupidity.
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seems like someone a couple pegs lower should be in charge of that particular button
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QB is by far most important piece on an NFL team. Elite pass rusher is #2. Hutchinson was leading the NFL in sacks and pressures through 5 games.
It’s devastating blow to the Lions and just sucks to see someone who works as hard and puts as much into it and has the kind of motor and leadership and affect on the team as Hutch go down. He’s one of the main culture change guys in that locker room along with Amon-Ra, Penei, and Goff. Throw in Hutch those 4 are really the cornerstone pieces which have allowed the sorry Detroit Lions to change the culture and flip the entire program into a winner.
I’ll take beating the Cowboys but that injury is absolutely devastating for the Lions. They have to go get Maxx Crosby now before the trade deadline. They have no other consistent pass rush without Hutch.
And its not just him. Without Davenport and Barnes they are now down their top 3 edge rushers.
Alim McNeil on the inside had his best game ever. Hell the injury was Hutchinson hitting his leg on McNeils because they were both at the QB.
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seems like someone a couple pegs lower should be in charge of that particular button
JJ makes all the decisions. It's why the Cowboys' front office is so terrible. He's the GM, CEO, COO, CFO, and every other thing.
He's terrible at all of those jobs, except CFO, where he has proven that he can still make ridiculous amounts of money no matter how poorly the team performs.
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If you shut the blinds, God can't watch
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If you shut the blinds, God can't watch
JJ believes he is God, and he can watch just fine. Man I really loathe that dude.
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JJ believes he is God, and he can watch just fine. Man I really loathe that dude.
Who was behind that Hershel Walker trade?
Jimmy?
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Who was behind that Hershel Walker trade?
Jimmy?
Well Jimmy wanted the trade because he wanted more players and picks, but Jerry and his business team are the ones who made it happen. It was a great deal for Dallas obviously, and a terrible deal for the Vikings. I definitely give credit to Jerry for hiring Jimmy and creating that team pretty much from scratch. The problems arose when Jerry thought Jimmy was getting too much credit, their friendship failed, and Jimmy left. Then Jerry took complete control.
The roster was still so good that even an absolute buffoon like Barry $witzer could win a Superbowl with that talent, but arguably he should have won one or two more. Jimmy Johnson would have.
Anyway, ever since, Jerry's insistence on being the frontman and having control, has doomed the Cowboys to mediocrity or worse. Sucking sucks.
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JJ believes he is God, and he can watch just fine. Man I really loathe that dude.
so, he's the Donald Trump of the NFL
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Jets figured out their problem. They needed to trade for another skill position player, who just happens to be Aaron's boy
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Jets figured out their problem. They needed to trade for another skill position player, who just happens to be Aaron's boy
Rodgers is the GM & coach of the team. Great call Woody Johnson. Cause that always works out when the star player has that much power in a team sport lol.
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Anyone catch the story of Philadelphia's coach Sirriani taunting his own fanbase (https://defector.com/nick-sirianni-has-had-it-up-to-here-with-the-fans-of-the-team-he-coaches) at the end of last Sunday's dispiriting win over the fading Browns?
"Reporters in the press box said fans near them tried to start a “Fire Sirianni” chant, though it didn’t catch on. But there were other fans, closer to Nick Sirianni, who made sure Sirianni heard their complaints about him."
"Sirianni did not take this well. Who would? Some fans chirped at him seemingly the whole game. Knowing the Eagles fanbase, there is absolutely no way anyone said anything nice. After the Eagles put the win on ice with a bomb to A.J. Brown on the game’s final possession, Sirianni decided to let them have it."
Sounds like the Eagles hired one of their own fans:
https://twitter.com/ghost_warrior34/status/1845642255639445688
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Listening to the Athletic NFL show, they said the Hutchinson injury just puts them into the top category as Super Bowl favorites, as opposed to possibly being their own category above everyone else.
They are saying what happened this year was that the defense was legit good. But the defense was legit low mid last year, so even if they fall back to that now; they still like this offense better. Their one caveat is that they think the offense is slightly thinner this year, so they can't take injuries on that side of the ball, but as is. This is probably a better offense than last year, and at worst a similar defense, just with a worse front, and better back. And possibly still a slightly better defense than last year. Just not a clearly better defense like they would be with Hutch.
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go get Myles Garrett. Browns have dumb owners are in rebuild mode and need draft picks and they are stuck in salary cap hell with DeShaun Watson's contract.
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What??
Browns to Move Out of Cleveland, Build Domed Stadium in Suburb of Brook Park (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/browns-to-move-out-of-cleveland-build-domed-stadium-in-suburb-of-brook-park/ar-AA1ssuys?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=e6b2c53e1d5343a5b68068a7f041e99a&ei=12)
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What could go wrong?
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What??
Browns to Move Out of Cleveland, Build Domed Stadium in Suburb of Brook Park (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/browns-to-move-out-of-cleveland-build-domed-stadium-in-suburb-of-brook-park/ar-AA1ssuys?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=e6b2c53e1d5343a5b68068a7f041e99a&ei=12)
Glad to see the announcement is official. I was born and raised in Brook Park. My parents are still in the home they bought 52 years ago. For those of us in the area, we have been confident this was just pending the announcement because of all the work at the site clearing and leveling the land the last couple of months. There's going to be a large group of Browns fans that are upset, but most of them are going to be the mid 40's drunks that are going to miss starting to drink in the muni lot at 7 am on a sunday. I don't mind that group being pissed.
Cleveland needs it..they can now develop the lake front property like it should be. Secondly, they NEED the area by the airport to be revitalized. Anyone that has ever flown into cleveland knows the airport sucks, the hotel accommodations around it are absolutely terrible and this is stones throw from the airport. Ohio and northeast ohio need to go all in here. Yes it's a complete shitty football team with a scumbag owner, but it's a means to making the area better. Build the dome, attract things like the final four, big ten championship game, possibly superbowl, more entertainment events and work their tail's off to improve the airport. People hate flying through Chicago.. It's a nightmare, so go take market share.
From a story perspective.. Cleveland and Brook Park folks should get behind it defining who they are. The biggest problem is Cleveland (the city of) has a road that's called Brook Park road that used to be infested with tons of strip clubs so everyone always related Brook Park to that.. except all the strip clubs were not in the city of brook park..Most residents and some of my peers i've known for years from brook park were born into lower middle class situations and are just grinders that want to hustle and make their life better. Lebron's famous coming home letter talks about nothing being given, everything is earned and you work for what you have. It reasonates loudly with Brook Park residents. So many were ford plant workers, steel mill workers and folks slugging it out. To this day, some of my childhood friends are some of the hardest workers, honest and best family men I know that were born with nothing, including very little opportunity and found a way to create their own.
That's my book. Brook Park Browns here we come.
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What could go wrong?
The owners are dirtbags so everything. That being said, brook park to downtown is 15 minutes.
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I'm mostly upset about losing one of the few remaining open air midwest/northeast stadiums
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Also, can't wait to see how much taxpayer money is being used to replace a 25 year old multi billion dollar stadium
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What??
Browns to Move Out of Cleveland, Build Domed Stadium in Suburb of Brook Park (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/browns-to-move-out-of-cleveland-build-domed-stadium-in-suburb-of-brook-park/ar-AA1ssuys?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=e6b2c53e1d5343a5b68068a7f041e99a&ei=12)
This is a good move in my opinion. About 1/3 of the NFL regular season is played after Thanksgiving now. Throw in playoff games that are all in January and Feb now, the future is indoor NFL stadiums. If you are going to build a new stadium that costs $2B, you want a stadium that can be used year round for big events. Could be used for Big Ten championship games, CFP games, and NCAA basketball tourney games and final fours.
I am still surprised the Bills chose not to build a dome. The Bears are also going to build an indoor stadium, probably in Arlington Hts. The Chiefs and Bengals are trying to get new stadiums too. Soon the Packers will be the only midwest NFL team left with an outdoor only stadium
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This is a good move in my opinion. About 1/3 of the NFL regular season is played after Thanksgiving now. Throw in playoff games that are all in January and Feb now, the future is indoor NFL stadiums. If you are going to build a new stadium that costs $2B, you want a stadium that can be used year round for big events. Could be used for Big Ten championship games, CFP games, and NCAA basketball tourney games and final fours.
I am still surprised the Bills chose not to build a dome. The Bears are also going to build an indoor stadium, probably in Arlington Hts. The Chiefs and Bengals are trying to get new stadiums too. Soon the Packers will be the only midwest NFL team left with an outdoor only stadium
Of course it's the future, and it makes sense. But I still hate it
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The Packers will figure out a way to put a roof on Lambeau.
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hope not
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I am still surprised the Bills chose not to build a dome. The Bears are also going to build an indoor stadium, probably in Arlington Hts. The Chiefs and Bengals are trying to get new stadiums too. Soon the Packers will be the only midwest NFL team left with an outdoor only stadium
Something must have gone wrong up in Arlington Heights, cause the Bears are now talking with the City of Chicago to get Burnham Park and the rest of the Museum Campus.
https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears-release-plans-for-stadium-project-in-chicago
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Something must have gone wrong up in Arlington Heights, cause the Bears are now talking with the City of Chicago to get Burnham Park and the rest of the Museum Campus.
https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears-release-plans-for-stadium-project-in-chicago
Nothing is wrong in Arlington.
The Mayor of Chicago sweetened the pot for them to stay. Not sure how, because he doesn't have a pot to piss in.
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no taxes or utility bills for 100 years???
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City kicking in 30% of construction costs that Arlington would not do.
It will be another boondoggle, just like the mistake of a remodel was done at the hallowed grounds of Soldier Field.
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printing money?
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Don't know, don't care. I don't live there anymore.
They have some sort of stadium authority, run by the State and controlled by Chicago.
That's where the funding for Sox Park and the boondoggle Bears remodel came from.
The Bears should have built a dome on the grounds of Old Comiskey Park. That would have been a boon and huge revitalization for the South Side.
I was very pissed at the time.
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Former Miami Dolphins quarterback Jay Cutler arrested (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-miami-dolphins-quarterback-jay-cutler-arrested/ar-AA1svOQ8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=fd5cd1c7a9ad482e972f24f935425461&ei=12)
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Packers, Steelers and Bengals would be it
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Packers, Steelers and Bengals would be it
As far as what? Non-dome teams in the Midwest?
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As far as what? Non-dome teams in the Midwest?
Correct
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Former Miami Dolphins quarterback Jay Cutler arrested (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-miami-dolphins-quarterback-jay-cutler-arrested/ar-AA1svOQ8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=fd5cd1c7a9ad482e972f24f935425461&ei=12)
former Bears QB
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Former Miami Dolphins quarterback Jay Cutler arrested (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-miami-dolphins-quarterback-jay-cutler-arrested/ar-AA1svOQ8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=fd5cd1c7a9ad482e972f24f935425461&ei=12)
Always the ones you least suspect
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(https://i.imgur.com/wDKho40.png)
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As far as what? Non-dome teams in the Midwest?
Well Browns presently but Jimmy Hasbeen supposedly cut a deal for a dome outside the City - as long as he's funding it - IDGaS
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Shit, the only remaining dude from the core group of 4 edge rushers is down now as well
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City kicking in 30% of construction costs that Arlington would not do.
It will be another boondoggle, just like the mistake of a remodel was done at the hallowed grounds of Soldier Field.
We can't control where the aliens land their crafts!
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The color guy on the MIN-DET game keeps saying "Cover Zero," but I was assured that wasn't a thing on this board awhile back.
Hmmph.
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Brian Branch is absolutely unreal
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Dashaun Watson looks like he snapped his Achilles and the Cleveland crowd is cheering. LOL
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If he was just a shitty QB, I'd say that's super shitty of them. But since he's a shitty QB/rapist, have at it
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Only Cleveland could give a guy in that situation that contract. It would defy belief....but it's CLE.
(also, the Raiders...the Browns probably beat the Raiders to it)
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Nice bounceback after falling behind 10-0. Would be 21-3 if not for a fake punt on 4th and 8 from their own 35
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Getting even less pass rush than I feared though
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Doesn't help that the Vikings commit an uncalled defensive penalty on just about every play
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Doesn't help that the Vikings commit an uncalled defensive penalty on just about every play
Even gave them an extra play for some reason at the end. Phew
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Even gave them an extra play for some reason at the end. Phew
Hell yes!
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When do you guys think Fox is going to change up their NFL song/theme? It's been like 30 years or so, hasn't it? Maybe since the late 90s?
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When do you guys think Fox is going to change up their NFL song/theme? It's been like 30 years or so, hasn't it? Maybe since the late 90s?
Your grumpy. What’s up?
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How is that grumpy? Just a question.
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How is that grumpy? Just a question.
Nothing personal dude but almost all of your posts today are what I would call pissy
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Dashaun Watson looks like he snapped his Achilles and the Cleveland crowd is cheering. LOL
They're unique I use run with the rabble upwardly mobile
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Nothing personal dude but almost all of your posts today are what I would call pissy
I'm pretty chill. Just mindlessly printing and cutting WN orders. No clue how wondering when/if a channel will change its song/theme is pissy, lol.
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If he was just a shitty QB, I'd say that's super shitty of them. But since he's a shitty QB/rapist, have at it
that's a lousy,dirty,no good,low down,accurate thing to say
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I'm pretty chill. Just mindlessly printing and cutting WN orders. No clue how wondering when/if a channel will change its song/theme is pissy, lol.
It’s all good. I am just enjoying my Sunday bourbon and the Lions win. Been a LOOONG time since I had a pro team worth cheering for. Lions have been so bad for so long.
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And now they're genuinely good. And should be for awhile.
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Only Cleveland Jimmy Hasbeen could give a guy in that situation that contract. It would defy belief....but it's CLE J.H.
(also, the Raiders...the Browns probably beat the Raiders to it)
FIFY,same guy that drafted 28 yr old rookie Brandon Weeden in the 1st rd.Then took the pixie Johnny Football 2 yrs later....in the 1st rd.because he said a homeless guy at a bus shelter told him to. Ya I'm sure they rub elbows frequently. Can't really make that up, General Managers don't like the media tying up the phones as Jimmy might be calling
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When do you guys think Fox is going to change up their NFL song/theme? It's been like 30 years or so, hasn't it? Maybe since the late 90s?
It's the best of the ones currently on air.
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And now they're genuinely good. And should be for awhile.
not going to lie still blows my mind and am in pinch me is this real mode still, but after so many years of pain and crushing heart blows it fucking...
(https://i.imgur.com/r1PHA.jpeg)
All hail Brad Holmes, the greatest GM in the history of the Detroit Lions. Can't believe they went from Matt Millen to this guy, it's a dream come true.
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thought the Vikes had em
good competitive entertaining game
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thought the Vikes had em
thought wrong homie.
(https://preview.redd.it/its-officially-official-the-king-in-the-north-v0-5r8w2u760c8c1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=594fbc6d21bfa4cf8f4004cd60917b2797f29752)
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Who does Russell Wilson have pictures of, that they decided to go away from Fields for this?
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Who does Russell Wilson have pictures of, that they decided to go away from Fields for this?
certainly turned it around. still not sure "moonballs" is a winning strategy though
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FIFY,same guy that drafted 28 yr old rookie Brandon Weeden in the 1st rd.Then took the pixie Johnny Football 2 yrs later....in the 1st rd.because he said a homeless guy at a bus shelter told him to. Ya I'm sure they rub elbows frequently. Can't really make that up, General Managers don't like the media tying up the phones as Jimmy might be calling
Even though it's my home team, there's part of me that doesn't mind this owner taking it where it hurts. Crooked businessman. Clearly low moral character. Takes chance after chance on players with low moral character. Ok'd the 2nd worst trade in the history of the NFL and now paying for it. Enjoy your misery Mr. Dirty Wealthy owner. My Sundays are far more enjoyable doing other things with family.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1848370158361846188
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Goff was better than Darnold
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Goff was better than Darnold
Darnold had been 2-0 against Detroit
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https://twitter.com/tannerstruth/status/1848180437643882823
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As of right now the Lions are the 1 seed in the NFC, and all 4 NFC North teams are in the playoffs. No other division has a WC spot
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As of right now the Lions are the 1 seed in the NFC, and all 4 NFC North teams are in the playoffs. No other division has a WC spot
Chicago won't make the playoff imo. And Detroit still needs to make a move to help fill the void of Hutch's injury.
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As of right now the Lions are the 1 seed in the NFC, and all 4 NFC North teams are in the playoffs. No other division has a WC spot
Don't expect the Bears to get there. Their schedule gets a lot harder now.
Who's the 7 in the NFC? Philly? Seattle?
I feel like there isn't much potential for change in the standings.
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https://twitter.com/AB84/status/1848431175460634958?t=P44Dloppy5a1nohyYkESxg&s=19
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#suicidebyNFL
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Ya can't fix stoopid
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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1848450234273448246?t=30URzttb1cnJJJa3XkFcTg&s=19
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Cowboys fans know class???
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Jamo about to be suspended....again. Looks like 2 games for PEDs. WTF wrong with this dude. :banghead:
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1848554820711420043
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thugs win championships
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thugs win championships
ha. fact.
Jamo was recovering from that nasty ACL his rookie year and he's been suspended by the NFL in back to back seasons now. Not a great start to his career for him. But when he's actually on the field he's a big-time play maker. Just can't seem to stay on it though...
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(https://i.imgur.com/PRTBW5w.png)
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Cowboys fans know class???
They're not any better or worse than all of the other mouth-breathing NFL fans.
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I dunno assumptions of America's team that the rest of the country find revolting,like Raiders fans
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They're not any better or worse than all of the other mouth-breathing NFL fans.
that's gonna stir the pot!
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that's gonna stir the pot!
Really? I didn't think there was anything particularly controversial about it. Compared to college football fans, NFL fans have long been a less... genteel... group. Just look at the countless videos of fights in the NFL stands and parking lots.
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I dunno assumptions of America's team that the rest of the country find revolting,like Raiders fans
You know what they say about assuming. It makes an ass out of you. A complete ass. Out of you.
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Little Jerry get in the corner adults are talking over here
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Little Jerry get in the corner adults are talking over here
Lulz. The Browns aren't even at the kids' table, they're in the crib in the other room.
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Low hanging fruit,sorry your over ballyhooed plowboy followers have to stoop to comiserate with the Brown's woes
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Low hanging fruit,sorry your over ballyhooed plowboy followers have to stoop to comiserate with the Brown's woes
It's a doggy dog world out there, Nubbz.
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Cowboy's fans are a step above Eagles fans
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Cowboy's fans are a step above Eagles fans
On a 12 step program
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Cowboy's fans are a step above Eagles fans
a bunch of steps up.
Eagles fans are the lowest scum of the earth mongoloid cretins known to man.
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Eagles fans are the lowest scum of the earth mongoloid cretins known to man.
Is that what Santa Claus told you
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They're not any better or worse than all of the other mouth-breathing NFL fans.
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There was an Eagles bar here in the downtown for a while - just closed recently. We didn't know it was an Eagles bar. They served Belgian food, so we went a lot. Then we went on an NFL Sunday.
We lasted about 10 minutes and left.
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Eagle fans are obviously the worst, that is understood. But they're subhuman and don't even count.
Amongst actual humans, the NFL fanbases are all the same, despite what homers might say about one or the other.
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Boston fans across the board are right there
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I guess we don't really get many down here. I only know one that I can think of, and she's very nice.
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Big Matt was a great Red Sox fan
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Boston fans across the board are right there
I find the one I sleep with every night pretty ok :)
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My wife is a Raiders fan.
Oof.
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My wife is a Raiders fan.
Oof.
You know, that's a lot better.
The problem with some insufferable fans is that you have to deal with them crowing about their team's successes...
...a problem you'll never have with a Raiders fan.
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You know, that's a lot better.
The problem with some insufferable fans is that you have to deal with them crowing about their team's successes...
...a problem you'll never have with a Raiders fan.
:93:
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Vikings upset by the Rams, moving teams to 0-5 the week after playing the Lions
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losing your left tackle early is tough
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Eric Crouch knows the feeling Sam.
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Lions pummel the Titans 52-14. I can’t ever remember being almost midway through an NFL season and saying welp Detroit looks far and away the best team in the sport. What is this? All this despite losing by far their best defensive player to a nasty leg injury for the year.
Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell have turned that culture around and in a hurry. Amazing to see. Detroit and it’s fans deserves a little sunshine after so many years of darkness. I’m just along for the ride and enjoying it.
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At one point the passing yards were 221-9 in favor of Tennessee, and they were losing 42-14
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At one point the passing yards were 221-9 in favor of Tennessee, and they were losing 42-14
Yeah I'm looking at the box score like ????
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I was a bit surprised at the Browns score.
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I was a bit surprised at the Browns score.
I don't know what to make of the Browns coaching. They can clearly win games with a league average quarterback, which is tough, but they insist on playing a way below league average quarterback and would still be playing him but for his injury.
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We walked by a newly opened Mexican restaurant that has a longish bar that opens to the outside with large TVs I could see from the sidewalk, so I paused, as the Falcons game was nearing its end. Speaking of leage balance, the Falcons are now 5-3 alone in first place with a -1 point overall point discrepancy, each win coming within a score. They could easily be 2-6.
I stuck my head inside and got a menu, a chicken taco is $6. Whatever happened to dollar tacos?
They claim to have "authentic" Mexican food.
Emilio's Tacos and Tequila (emiliostacosandtequila.com) (https://www.emiliostacosandtequila.com/)
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Yeah I'm looking at the box score like ????
+4 in turnovers, plus a pubt return TD, and Tennessee had a drive that ended on downs at the 1 yard line
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(https://blacksportsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/James-Winston-Crab-Legs-Memes-6.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/KruseSports_/status/1850695755650191432?t=dxjvc9bp_QKPuJltHiX7jw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/KruseSports_/status/1850695755650191432?t=dxjvc9bp_QKPuJltHiX7jw&s=19
Absolute karma.
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What a dildo reminds me of when the 49ers were hamming it up celebrating in 2020 with a 10 pt lead but plenty of time left in the 4th. Mahomie brought them back and won.yup kharma
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Cowboys remembered Lamb is their best player
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The Bears doing Bears things.
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At one point the passing yards were 221-9 in favor of Tennessee, and they were losing 42-14
2003 Gophers at Iowa. Gophers had 300+ rushing yards and were down 42-7 due to lost fumbles.
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The Bears doing Bears things.
For once yesterday the Browns weren't doing Browns things. Their longtime play by play man(and all around good guy) Jimmy Donovon passed away Saturday.So in his memory the Browns beat the former Browns in Cleveland 😎
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The improbable win came just days after Watson's third season with Cleveland ended with him rupturing an Achilles tendon. Also, the Browns and their fan base were mourning the loss of beloved play-by-play broadcaster Jim Donovan, who died Saturday following a long battle with cancer.
Following the game, coach Kevin Stefanski told his players he'll present the game ball to Donovan's family.
“This one's for Jim,” Stefanski said.
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For once yesterday the Browns weren't doing Browns things. Their longtime play by play man(and all around good guy) Jimmy Donovon passed away saturday.So in his memory the Browns beat the former Browns in Cleveland 😎
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The improbable win came just days after Watson's third season with Cleveland ended with him rupturing an Achilles tendon. Also, the Browns and their fan base were mourning the loss of beloved play-by-play broadcaster Jim Donovan, who died Saturday following a long battle with cancer.
Following the game, coach Kevin Stefanski told his players he'll present the game ball to Donovan's family.
“This one's for Jim,” Stefanski said.
Have to feel something for the relative good guy in that QB room, who only has 2 sexual assault accusers. Plus shoplifting
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Had you become a prosecutor maybe these ne'er do wells would be getting their just desserts.
Oh and Nick Chubb returned and picked up 52 yds
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Whatever game the local station was playing ended and the feed switched over to Wash/Bears for about the last 3 minutes of the game. I hadn't even cut the tc on much before then so it was kind of a fluke that I saw the hail mary.
I'm no Washington fan but as is well known, I look for former Tigers and root for them to have good games. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. I'd say it almost made up for my dad cutting the tv off in disgust 22 years ago and causing me to miss the bluegrass miracle.....but nah, nothing makes up for that travesty.
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Oh and Nick Chubb returned and picked up 52 yds
One of my top favorite players.
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https://twitter.com/KruseSports_/status/1850695755650191432?t=dxjvc9bp_QKPuJltHiX7jw&s=19
Jimmy Johnson would’ve cut this clown 5 minutes after the game ended. Jesus.
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Jimmy Johnson would’ve cut this clown 5 minutes after the game ended. Jesus.
On the spot.
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Have to feel something for the relative good guy in that QB room, who only has 2 sexual assault accusers. Plus shoplifting
funny cause it’s true :043:
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PFF latest mock draft has 5 Michigan players going in the first round.
Will Johnson, Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, Colston Loveland, and Josiah Stewart. Obviously mocks don't mean shit at this point, but damn Michigan really about to go 7-5 with 5 dudes potentially gone in the 1st round of an NFL draft because the offense and QB's suck so much ass. Shite.
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gonna be able to reload next season?
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gonna be able to reload next season?
no. OC & DC suck balls- need to fire them both and get real guys or else they will be in trouble. not sure I have faith in Moore to swing his nuts around and fire them both and go get some DUDES at the co-ordinator spots.
also, who the is F the QB? Davis Warren is a walk-on who stinks, Alex Orji is a Wildcat RB who can't throw, and true frosh Jadyn Davis is apparently not good enough to beat either of them out so...yikes.
Unless they get some big fish in the portal or they can actually flip the #1 player in HS Bryce Underwood....they gonna suck on offense next year too.
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apparently Lions WR Jameson Williams had himself a Mazi Smith gun carry incident in a traffic stop that happened weeks ago and media is just reporting about it now....he got off without an arrest. Doesn't mean the NFL can't suspend him for violation of conduct policy- especially since he seems to be a habitual offender.
This fucking kid keeps playing with fire....
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can't fix stoopid
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apparently Lions WR Jameson Williams had himself a Mazi Smith gun carry incident in a traffic stop that happened weeks ago and media is just reporting about it now....he got off without an arrest. Doesn't mean the NFL can't suspend him for violation of conduct policy- especially since he seems to be a habitual offender.
This fucking kid keeps playing with fire....
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42079415/report-prosecutors-reviewing-warrant-request-lions-williams
According to the report, Williams was riding as a passenger in a vehicle driven by his brother when they were stopped after midnight. Police asked Williams' brother if there were any weapons in the vehicle, and he said there were two guns -- one in the back seat and one under Jameson Williams' passenger seat.
The gun in the back seat was registered to Williams' brother, who had a concealed pistol license. The gun under the passenger seat was registered to Jameson Williams, who did not have a concealed pistol license, according to the report. Jameson Williams, who repeatedly identified himself as a player for the Lions during the stop according to body camera audio, was handcuffed and put in the back of a police car.
"I feel that there was probable cause to arrest, and he was under arrest by the patrol officer," Detroit Police Commander Michael McGinnis told WXYZ-TV. "And because of that, he should have been conveyed to the Detroit Detention Center and processed."
However, a supervisor and later a sergeant arrived at the scene and Williams was released after the sergeant made several phone calls to higher-ranking officers to find out if Williams should be arrested or if the concealed pistol license belonging to his brother covered both guns. Finally, he made a call to a lieutenant, whose comments cannot be heard in the body camera audio, and Williams was taken out of handcuffs and let go. No report was written by police on the traffic stop, according to the report.
Why is this even a big deal? Seems like one of those no harm, no foul things? Is this guy known for his thuggery or something? I know nothing about him.
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Listening to even Jets commentators laughing about how amazing it is that Robert Salah is still losing games, tongue in cheek making fun of Aaron Rodgers. Has there ever been a bigger waste of talent? If he cared half as much about football as he did about weird ass science, like locking himself in a dark room for a cleanse, he could have been the greatest ever. He had more talent in his pinky than either Brady or Manning had in their whole body, but they were football psychos, and the two highest IQ players of all time. Rodgers would have retired years ago, except idiots kept throwing money at him
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Rodgers is an idiot
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Rodgers and the Jets finally won a game....
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Rodgers and the Jets finally won a game....
Despite one of his receivers dropping the ball short of the goal line and the ball rolling out of the end zone for a touchback...
I had no idea why people were buying the Jets in the off-season.
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Despite one of his receivers dropping the ball short of the goal line and the ball rolling out of the end zone for a touchback...
I had no idea why people were buying the Jets in the off-season.
Yeah that was a complete shit show play. I don’t understand these mf’s. Why are you dropping the ball to celebrate like a dickhead BEFORE you cross the plane. Rodgers should’ve cut that guy on the spot.
I agree, no one should’ve bought the Jets off-season hype. Terrible coaching staff the team is sloppy makes tons of mistakes and not a cohesive united unit and Rodgers is a complete diva and the OL blows.
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Despite one of his receivers dropping the ball short of the goal line and the ball rolling out of the end zone for a touchback...
I had no idea why people were buying the Jets in the off-season.
Why give such hot takes, when ESPN will pay you 7 figures to do so
(https://i.imgur.com/XVmWNFv.png)
Yeah, I don't get anything they are doing. Rodgers was bad his last year in Green Bay, and he's 2 years and a torn achilles older. I heard he has the longest streak of consecutive starts without throwing for over 300 yards since Byron Leftwich like 20 years ago. It's been since 2021
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rodgers sucks
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Between him and Henry, pendulum might swing a little ways back towards paying too end RBs
https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1853191946568630441?t=U_xhiGNTQ4wySTSJ9WzlsQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/Burnsy381/status/1853214357410509227?t=IMLQBy1FNB8WjkJNDKWVsA&s=19
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Gibbs on my fantasy team - needed that
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Lions add ZaDarius Smith from Cleveland for just a 5th and a 6th, and appear to be the leader for Oljulari from NY.
Love it. Don't give up the bag for Garrett, this team just needs a serviceable defense, and Smith is signed through next year, so they should have him and Hutch together.
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Lions add ZaDarius Smith from Cleveland for just a 5th and a 6th, and appear to be the leader for Oljulari from NY.
Love it. Don't give up the bag for Garrett, this team just needs a serviceable defense, and Smith is signed through next year, so they should have him and Hutch together.
I was all on board for sending the farm to try and get Crosby or Garrett, but I think you're right.
I have complete faith in Brad Holmes. Far and away the best GM ever in Detroit.
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(https://i.imgur.com/BIkeMSQ.jpeg)
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Zeke!
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Hurts returns the favor
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man the cowboys are just shockingly bad. no way in hell McCarthy should be back next year.
Oh and Lol @ the Jets. Jesus that is a clown show.
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The fact that Joe Mixon is allowed to not only collect a paycheck, but be a captain is proof that cancel culture doesnt exist
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man the cowboys are just shockingly bad. no way in hell McCarthy should be back next year.
Oh and Lol @ the Jets. Jesus that is a clown show.
I dont know why they brought McCarthy back this year. But as someone who works in the energy industry, Jerry Jones doesnt know what hes doing there either anymore. Hes become an industry joke. He makes bad plays, buys failing companies. And he used to be incredibly savvy there, even when he had no idea how to run a football team. Considering he doesnt know how to run a business anymore, I can only imagine how shitty a GM he is
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(https://i.imgur.com/dGKqamG.jpeg)
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Its almost like the Jaguars are bad, and the Jaguars with a backup QB are.worse
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Somehow the Lions have gone from the franchise that found ways to lose, even when they played well, to playing an absolutely garbage game, and somehow winning. Insane
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The Chiefs, Vikings, and Lions got lucky
not sure about others
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Somehow the Lions have gone from the franchise that found ways to lose, even when they played well, to playing an absolutely garbage game, and somehow winning. Insane
I watched the 2nd half of the Lions/Texans game last night. Started at 23-7, figured that the Texans got lucky in the 1st half, because no way would they dominate a good team like the Lions like that. Surely enough, the Lions started chipping away, hanging in there. Texans couldn't do much on offense, and Stroud made a couple of bad throws, cost them points. I thought the long FG at the end was a mistake, should have either went for it on 4th or punted.
Dan Campbell is a helluva an Aggie, and a helluva coach.
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Stroud not getting the ball out quicker or with more zip on the INT in the endzone was the play in the 2nd half
not sure the Lions would have overcome that TD
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Dan Campbell is a helluva an Aggie, and a helluva coach.
There was some discussion as to whether Texas A&M would make a move on him to replace Jimbo. I think he'd do very well in college, but I don't think he'd have any patience for the booster side of things
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Stroud not getting the ball out quicker or with more zip on the INT in the endzone was the play in the 2nd half
not sure the Lions would have overcome that TD
Yes- that was so in Stoud like. That’s where he is almost always deadly. Needed to throw it sooner for an easy TD.
The Lions were also fortunate on the Texans last drive, not getting called for a super obvious PI. Would have given Houston a first down, in FG range, and complete control of the clock.
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There was some discussion as to whether Texas A&M would make a move on him to replace Jimbo. I think he'd do very well in college, but I don't think he'd have any patience for the booster side of things
I believe he did say that he was contacted and asked if he had any interest. His whole career has been spent in the NFL. Around 10 years as a player (for the Cowboys LOL), then as an assistant and DC. AFAIK he's never held a college job. Not that he wouldn't make a great coach, but I'd be very leery of a move like that.
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I believe he did say that he was contacted and asked if he had any interest. His whole career has been spent in the NFL. Around 10 years as a player (for the Cowboys LOL), then as an assistant and DC. AFAIK he's never held a college job. Not that he wouldn't make a great coach, but I'd be very leery of a move like that.
he's one of the top tier elite NFL head coaches the past season and a half. translation: ain't a prayer in hell he's going to coach college any time soon.
Michigan just got insanely lucky with the timing of everything between the 49ers and Harbaugh. That was the only reason they got him.
Guys that are elite NFL head coaches simply put just don't bother with coaching college. Why the hell would they?
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BuT sIgNz...DeRp...dErP....
god damnit Jesse Minter is just an awesome coach. gave the wrong co-ordinator the full-time gig. fuck.
https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/1856067394092859857
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BuT sIgNz...DeRp...dErP....
god damnit Jesse Minter is just an awesome coach. gave the wrong co-ordinator the full-time gig. fuck.
https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/1856067394092859857
I could see Jerry Jones breaking the bank to hire him as HC, and then get Lincoln Riley as OC
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Deion could be director of personnel
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Who would want to work for Jerry Jones? Or the Bears?
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for $10 million a season?
:051bye:
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I could see Jerry Jones breaking the bank to hire him as HC, and then get Lincoln Riley as OC
would certainly be very interesting to see.
Dallas sucks right now but they have some nice pieces on defense. Minter would turn that defense into a lethal machine lead by Parsons.
And Ol' Linc's ass just might be grass after USC gets boat raced by Notre Dame at the end of the season. Pretty iffy head coach, but he sure can call some offense.
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Who would want to work for Jerry Jones? Or the Bears?
add the Cleveland Browns and the Haslams in there.
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Really at least the 'Boys & Bears have won an NFL Title -ya know in the last 30 - 40 years.I'm sure I can wait at least that long again 🤮. Hell the Lions/Chargers/Bills will grab the hardware.
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Hey, all it takes is your owner dying, and his daughter or wife (I forget), actually being the rare competent owner through inheritance, hiring an amazing GM and amazing coach.
It's insane how quickly the M.O. of a franchise can change. The Fords bought the Lions on the day JFK was killed, and it took 60 years to figure it out. Now the Lions allowed Za'Darius Smith to take this week off, even though they just traded for him, because it was supposed to be his bye week, and multiple agents Tweeted that it was noticed among their clients.
They've gone from a joke to a destination
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Tough then Smith should have negged the contract,gets months off in the off reason I'd like to see the NFL collapse
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https://twitter.com/ChrisMuellerPGH/status/1857436885821305313?t=boogjbtXy6IbygvlYH3gEw&s=19
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Jordan Jefferson is good, but illegal contact makes him great. Ive never seen a WR more protected by the softest calls ever
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Winning % as Jets starting QB:
Zach Wilson .364
Sam Darnold .342
Aaron Rodgers .273
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Winning % as Jets starting QB:
Zach Wilson .364
Sam Darnold .342
Aaron Rodgers .273
Modernas move shouldnt be having John Legend pimping the vax, it should be pointing out how anti it Aaron Rodgers is
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Jordan Jefferson is good, but illegal contact makes him great. Ive never seen a WR more protected by the softest calls ever
I thought Jordan Jefferson was a QB out of LSU...
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The job Aaron Glenn has done over the second half of the season has been an absolute master class
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Cowboys and Vikings just gagged away nearly impossible to gag away leads, and then Washington's kicker missed the PAT
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Duh Bears
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Cowboys and Vikings just gagged away nearly impossible to gag away leads, and then Washington's kicker missed the PAT
And then there were like 4 or 5 more scores in that game! Not really but wow what a weird and wild ending.
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The job Aaron Glenn has done over the second half of the season has been an absolute master class
especially without Hutchinson, which makes it all that more impressive.
As good as Detroit is they’d be even scarier if 97 didn’t have a season ending injury. Which is nuts to think.
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I am still not used to having a pro team I care about be good. Been so long. Really never ….. it is fun.
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I am still not used to having a pro team I care about be good. Been so long. Really never ….. it is fun.
yeah dude, it’s super weird and unfamiliar territory for all Lions fans.
Long as they keep MCDC, Brad Holmes, Goff, and that OL together they should be good for awhile.
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especially without Hutchinson, which makes it all that more impressive.
As good as Detroit is they’d be even scarier if 97 didn’t have a season ending injury. Which is nuts to think.
Yeah, thats the thing, he has adjusted around losing his best player. He is leaning HARD on his secondary. They have the best safety pairing in the league, but they lost bith starting CBs now. Sounds like at least one ahould be back Thanskgiving. But they were #18 in blitz rate pre Hutchinson, and #1 since. He lost bis best player, flipped his scheme on the fly,. and statistically theyve actually been better sonce then
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https://twitter.com/sportswaatcher/status/1861796677188731214?t=EzBVJ1taD454fXNl6638Mw&s=19
https://twitter.com/_BarackSays/status/1861804432549159223?t=XdV3CSk0bBiTsmOT5EggRw&s=19
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JJ is going to be the Vikings starter next year. He would’ve been their starter this year if he didn’t get injured in pre-season.
JJ is going to wind up being a much more productive and prolific pro than college QB because: coaching & WR talent around him. Kevin O’Connell is light years ahead of Jeem when it comes to the passing game and no disrespect to Roman Wilson who is a good player but he ain’t freaking Justin Jefferson. JJ has every raw physical tool in the book. He’s got the height/frame, a very live arm, throws on the run and off platform accurately, and he’s sneaky athletic and much quicker/faster than people realize.
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I'll wait to see how he deals with NFL coverages and pressure
and more importantly, how accurate his arm is.
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I'll wait to see how he deals with NFL coverages and pressure
and more importantly, how accurate his arm is.
That is the #1 thing for every young QB. His arm is very naturally accurate. He has the gift of throwing- some guys are just naturals- some really struggle. JJ’s got to learn how to deal with the coverages and pressure.
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He didn't come to play
school geography class. He came to play football.
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That is the #1 thing for every young QB. His arm is very naturally accurate. He has the gift of throwing- some guys are just naturals- some really struggle. JJ’s got to learn how to deal with the coverages and pressure.
he's getting a year to stand on the sideline, watch tons of film, and learn a shit ton before he's thrown into the fire
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Inside the Giants' mishandling of Saquon Barkley and how the Eagles RB is getting the last laugh(CBS Sports)
Saquon Barkley is having a historic debut season for the Philadelphia Eagles. The two-time Pro Bowl running back is on track for 2,151 rushing yards and 2,548 yards from scrimmage (combined rushing and receiving yards), which would both be NFL single-season records. Eric Dickerson had 2,105 yards in 16 games to set the single-season rushing record in 1984 with the Los Angeles Rams. The single-season yards from scrimmage record is 2,509 by Chris Johnson in 16 games with the Tennessee Titans in 2009.
Barkley already has a career-high and league-leading 1,392 rushing yards in 11 games. Barkley is averaging an NFL-best 6.2 yards per carry. His 10 rushing touchdowns are tied for the fourth most in the NFL despite losing significant carries around the goal line to Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, who has 11 touchdowns on the ground, because the "tush push" is virtually unstoppable. Barkley's 1,649 yards from scrimmage also lead the NFL. Only Barkley and Hall of Famer Jim Brown in 1963 have had 1,300 rushing yards, 6.2 yards per carry and 10 rushing touchdowns through 11 games.
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ya mean like Penn St f'ed up??
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Every coach has been in 10+ places before they get an NFL head coaching job, and yet they all look like they've never experienced sub 40 degree weather as soon as they get the Dolphins job
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He looked like he was shivering all night.
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ya mean like Penn St f'ed up??
?
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ya mean like Penn St f'ed up??
:017: Bugeater what for you be babbling about?
2015-1076 5.9 YPV
2016-1496 5.5 YPC
2017-1271 5.9 YPC
It appears the ninnies managed this fairly well
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:017: Bugeater what for you be babbling about?
2015-1076 5.9 YPV - They finished the season 7–6, 4–4 in Big Ten play to finish in fourth place in the East Division. They were invited to the TaxSlayer Bowl where they lost to Georgia.
2016-1496 5.5 YPC - They lost to Pitt and Michigan - actually pretty good Big Ten Champs
2017-1271 5.9 YPC - also pretty good - I retract my statement
It appears the ninnies managed this fairly well
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Every coach has been in 10+ places before they get an NFL head coaching job, and yet they all look like they've never experienced sub 40 degree weather as soon as they get the Dolphins job
Living in South Florida will do that to a person. You get used to the weather, you get used to never being freezing cold and forget what it’s like and how much it actually truly SUCKS. I honestly can’t deal with the cold the same way I used to be able to, the mind/body adapts to living in sunny warm weather year round and any time you’re out of that environment the mind/body goes into a bit of shock. It’s a very real, strange thing.
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Truth.
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well, I'm not moving there if it's gonna turn me into a pussy
;)
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well, I'm not moving there if it's gonna turn me into a pussy
;)
I don't deny living in Phoenix for the past 11 years has turned me into a pussy as far as the cold goes. It goes below 80 and I am in long sleeves. gets to 70 and I have a coat.
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Bears fire that clown Eberflus. Ownership is truly retarded. They should’ve fired him last off-season and found a coach they could pair with Williams. They basically wasted a year of Williams’ development by bringing back an obvious lame duck.
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Bears fire that clown Eberflus. Ownership is truly retarded. They should’ve fired him last off-season and found a coach they could pair with Williams. They basically wasted a year of Williams’ development by bringing back an obvious lame duck.
About damn time.
Now, the McCaskey's need to fire themselves.
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Living in South Florida will do that to a person. You get used to the weather, you get used to never being freezing cold and forget what it’s like and how much it actually truly SUCKS. I honestly can’t deal with the cold the same way I used to be able to, the mind/body adapts to living in sunny warm weather year round and any time you’re out of that environment the mind/body goes into a bit of shock. It’s a very real, strange thing.
Yeah, I've always been very cold-tolerant. I was the one wearing shorts WAY too late into the fall and WAY too early into the spring.
But 24 years in warm climates (22 CA, 2 ATL), and I am nowhere near as tolerant as I was back then. And I have no desire to move back, EVER, and regain it lol...
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Cowboys haven't had much to cheer about this year, but this play from former Longhorn linebacker DeMarion Overshown was pretty spectacular.
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1862263254732439783?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1862263254732439783%7Ctwgr%5E19ee20c972a6eb19aaeb0ac7d61d7173c48f4f88%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FNFL%2Fstatus%2F1862263254732439783%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc255Etfw257Ctwcamp255Etweetembed257Ctwterm255E1862263254732439783257Ctwgr255Ec2b01b65bb9ff098a48c9cb388cdbba3d78491c9257Ctwcon255Es1_26ref_url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.msn.com%2Fen-us%2Fsports%2Fnfl%2Fsocial-media-reacts-to-insane-pick-six-by-cowboys-demarvion-overshown%2Far-AA1uWEm6%3Focid%3DBingNewsVerp
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(https://i.imgur.com/9oTaTzM.jpeg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/AJ1iEV8.png)
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hey, somebody had to do the press conference
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(https://i.imgur.com/AJ1iEV8.png)
it was a complete joke to even bring him back in the off-season when you knew you were in a rebuild mode and taking a QB with the #1 overall pick.
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it was a complete joke to even bring him back in the off-season when you knew you were in a rebuild mode and taking a QB with the #1 overall pick.
Two words.
Kevin Warren.
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Two words.
Kevin Warren.
Fact. Dude is a clown.
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2 more season ending injuries on defense for the Lions.
At some point Aaron Glenn can only do so much
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if it actually happens....huge mistake...
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1863255188145844607
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hopefully, a mistake for both
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They should hire Aaron Glenn as HC, and Lincoln Riley as OC
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why screw up what Aaron Glenn does best?
They should hire Urbs or Saban as HC, Aaron Glenn as DC, and Lincoln Riley as OC
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why screw up what Aaron Glenn does best?
They should hire Urbs or Saban as HC, Aaron Glenn as DC, and Lincoln Riley as OC
Why would Aaron Glenn leave for the same job with a shittier franchise?
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he shouldn't
but there might be more money
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he shouldn't
but there might be more money
Theyll match any money, and someone will give him an HC job. The chances of leaving for another DC job are unmeasurably low
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This is why everyone who wants indoor games should be punched in the nuts they dont actually have
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yo, SEC!
Welcome to homefield in the new playoff!
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https://twitter.com/brandon_warne/status/1863593657145630867
https://twitter.com/KuntryBoyDaryl/status/1863704608633204754
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Winston sucks
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Detroit should bring JJ out of retirement....get that ring buddy and do it in Detroit...
https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1864384371123277875
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Hell, I'll take any retired guy with an NFL pedigree. I've never seen this many injuries on one side of the ball ever.
It's hilarious how much slack SF gets for their injuries on offense, and rightfully so, but Detroit's defense has been arguably hit harder, because while it is studs, it's also all of the depth. The defense is essentially now the projected starting safeties (who have been the best pairing in the league) and guys who were on practice squads
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Detroit should bring JJ out of retirement....get that ring buddy and do it in Detroit...
If he was going to play anywhere, he'd play in Pittsburgh with his brother and 6 other Badgers.
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Pittsburgh doesn't need him, their defense is fine. It's not like this is 2017 JJ who is going to start a bidding war. Detroit is the rare championship contender, who has also signed 3 guys off of other teams' practice squads in the past couple weeks. If he was still better than legit NFL starters, he'd be on a roster. We need a guy who is better than guys who literally weren't good enough to be on active NFL rosters
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He's not gonna play anyway. But imagine a front with JJ, TJ, Herbig and Benton. That's nuts.
I wish they were still Badgers.
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they win 10 in a row....every 100 years or so...
https://twitter.com/SNFonNBC/status/1864111806697852957
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they win 10 in a row....every 100 years or so...
https://twitter.com/SNFonNBC/status/1864111806697852957
I will say they had a shot to be great early under Stafford if it was under the current rules. They nailed back to back to back picks with Calvin - Stafford - Suh, but without rookie slotting, those three ate up the whole cap. If you had those three on rookie deals now, imagine what you could do...
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Bears President & CEO Kevin Warren apparently blocked the Bears from talking to Jeem about the Bears head coaching job. Hahahahaha. Omg you can't make this kind of ineptitude up. Keep Matt Eferblus. Check. Refuse to interview Jeem. Check.
Bears really deserve to suck because of ownership & management. But the city & fans deserve better. I feel like they are the new Detroit Lions.
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Lions highest graded defender per PFF last night?
LB Ezekiel Turner.
He had already been cut from the 49ers, Cardinals and Seahawks practice squads this year. Lions signed him November 6, and elevated him for the first time for the Thanksgiving Day game.
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Lions highest graded defender per PFF last night?
LB Ezekiel Turner.
He had already been cut from the 49ers, Cardinals and Seahawks practice squads this year. Lions signed him November 6, and elevated him for the first time for the Thanksgiving Day game.
what a gritty win last night.
can't believe they just keep on winning despite having a completely depleted defense.
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what a gritty win last night.
can't believe they just keep on winning despite having a completely depleted defense.
10 days off are very needed. Then Buffalo. I'd be inclined to keep resting anyone on the fence. Because SF is very depleted on offense, followed by the Bears, and then finish at home against Minnesota. Josh Allen might light us up if fully healthy, so make sure you are as healthy as possible for that stretch run. Last night gave them a little wiggle room.
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10 days off are very needed. Then Buffalo. I'd be inclined to keep resting anyone on the fence. Because SF is very depleted on offense, followed by the Bears, and then finish at home against Minnesota. Josh Allen might light us up if fully healthy, so make sure you are as healthy as possible for that stretch run. Last night gave them a little wiggle room.
Not only did the Lions' win last night keep the Packers from winning the North, it also was a big win for tiebreakers against the Eagles for the 1 seed. Essentially, the Lions have to lose two of their NFC games remaining to lose the 1 seed.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/how-lions-win-over-packers-severely-dented-eagles-chances-of-getting-no-1-seed-home-field-advantage-in-nfc/
The Bills need next week's game more than the Lions do. They need to keep the pressure on the Chiefs.
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Sam Darnold understands the assignment. He just throws up jump balls, frequently not even good ones, and Jefferson and Addison just keep bailing him out
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better to be lucky than good
Welcome back Capt Kirk!
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better to be lucky than good
Welcome back Capt Kirk!
Hes not lucky, he just doesnt try to do anything. He just trusts that he has two elite receivers. He just chucks up jump balls, and he has two talented guys. I wonder if they can get a haul for JJ, because it might be worth betting on your weapons, seeing how well you can do with them and a shitty QB
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I'd be all for that
a few defensive pieces and another O-lineman
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I'd be all for that
a few defensive pieces and another O-lineman
Defense is pretty good. OL could use a boost
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Chiefs now have more one score wins than any team that has ever won the Super Bowl
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They're clutch - or made a deal with the Devil
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Chiefs now have more one score wins than any team that has ever won the Super Bowl
poor Jimmy
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Hes not lucky, he just doesnt try to do anything. He just trusts that he has two elite receivers. He just chucks up jump balls, and he has two talented guys. I wonder if they can get a haul for JJ, because it might be worth betting on your weapons, seeing how well you can do with them and a shitty QB
also helps when the DB literally fucking sucks ass...
https://twitter.com/HaterReport_/status/1865867039253934587
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Chiefs now have more one score wins than any team that has ever won the Super Bowl
Told ya! My money's on the Chiefs to win the Superbowl again this year. If it were possible to win a game by 1/2 point then they'd most certainly do it.
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Hes not lucky, he just doesnt try to do anything. He just trusts that he has two elite receivers. He just chucks up jump balls, and he has two talented guys. I wonder if they can get a haul for JJ, because it might be worth betting on your weapons, seeing how well you can do with them and a shitty QB
Nah, as long as JJ is making "first contract money", might as well ride that horse you bought.
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can draft another QB in a couple seasons
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https://twitter.com/ZachHeilprin/status/1865852708483174751?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1865852708483174751%7Ctwgr%5Eaa24588407a295a5e3359093978eca80c4f7cb5c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fwisconsin%2Fboard%2F23%2Fcontents%2Ftweets-144988831%2F%3Fpage%3D1 (https://twitter.com/ZachHeilprin/status/1865852708483174751?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1865852708483174751|twgr^aa24588407a295a5e3359093978eca80c4f7cb5c|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fwisconsin%2Fboard%2F23%2Fcontents%2Ftweets-144988831%2F%3Fpage%3D1)
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https://theonion.com/more-parents-say-allowing-child-to-play-football-not-worth-risk-of-being-drafted-by-jets/
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absolutely wild that the Chiefs are 12-1....
https://twitter.com/JayCuda/status/1867780381484990663
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must b playin defense
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must b playin defense
or payin the refs off...
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that's a certainty
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Relying 100% on blitzing against the QB who is having the best rating against the blitz in the history of PFF maybe didnt get enough print
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Rooting against the Lions since I'm a Viking fan........
Cornflicted cause in Fantasy, I have.... Josh Allen & Jahmyr Gibbs & Jake Bates - Kicker
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Apparently the Vikings have an issue. Multiple players saying they will sit out OTAs, including Justin Jefferson, if Darnold isnt the starter going into next year
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as long as they get homefield in the playoffs and get to the super bowl for their 5th loss, I'm OK with it.
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Going into SNF/MNF I'm up 12.26 in my fantasy matchup but with the players remaining am projected to lose by 4.78.
I have Jonathan Taylor. He dropped the ball (like a moron) just short of the goal line on a break-free 41-yard [shoulda-been] TD run.
That's a 9.1 point swing.
When will these players learn not to do this crap?!?!
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I have a 54% chance of winning after Josh Allen posted 41 and Jahmyr Gibbs posted 28
I have 6 left to play, opponent has 1
I have Josh Jacobs and DK Metcalf tonight
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hey who needs healthy defensive players? jesus. don't think i've ever seen a Lions defense this slaughtered by injury this deep into a season.
https://twitter.com/BradGalli/status/1868466262470484109
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https://twitter.com/AB84/status/1868423486701527082
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hey who needs healthy defensive players? jesus. don't think i've ever seen a Lions defense this slaughtered by injury this deep into a season.
https://twitter.com/BradGalli/status/1868466262470484109
I think Holmes can scheme around a lot, and the offense is elite, but this is at the same point as the 49ers, and they arent even going to make the playoffs. Allen is a matchup nightmare. Since Hutchinson got hurt Lions have the highest blitz rate in the NFL and Allen has the highest PFF rating against the blitz of any QB in the PFF era
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Going into SNF/MNF I'm up 12.26 in my fantasy matchup but with the players remaining am projected to lose by 4.78.
I have Jonathan Taylor. He dropped the ball (like a moron) just short of the goal line on a break-free 41-yard [shoulda-been] TD run.
That's a 9.1 point swing.
When will these players learn not to do this crap?!?!
That was the dumbest play of the season, considering what was on the line for the Colts that game. Absolute moron
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LOL
Plus 4 other guys who became starters once the below went out
https://twitter.com/colton_pouncy/status/1868692773731471405
And now the offense too
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1868705406480269819
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Would San Francisco give their first for JJ McCarthy? Put a rookie QB contract into that offense? And yes, giving up a first, but he was a top 10 pick just a year ago, and this crop of rookie QBs looks elite. They all look like legit NFL QBs, at worst, and with these weapons, the floor is enough
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That was the dumbest play of the season, considering what was on the line for the Colts that game. Absolute moron
Yet every year guys keep doing that. Hs, college and pro.
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LOL
Plus 4 other guys who became starters once the below went out
https://twitter.com/colton_pouncy/status/1868692773731471405
And now the offense too
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1868705406480269819
you almost have to laugh to keep from crying.....never seen a team going into the playoffs that decimated on defense.
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Yet every year guys keep doing that. Hs, college and pro.
yeah it's absolutely wild that it even happens at all. don't ever remember it being a thing back in the day. these jerkoffs too ready to celebrate before they actually cross the goal line with the ball.
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Would San Francisco give their first for JJ McCarthy? Put a rookie QB contract into that offense? And yes, giving up a first, but he was a top 10 pick just a year ago, and this crop of rookie QBs looks elite. They all look like legit NFL QBs, at worst, and with these weapons, the floor is enough
I mean is SF looking to move on from Purdy? Purdy is a pretty good QB but not worth a huge contract so it does make sense to replace him on a cheap deal if they can.
This QB draft class sucks pretty bad. I'm pretty sure they could get more for JJ if they really were looking to trade him for a haul to one of the teams in the top 5 that need a QB desperately. Shedeur Sanders is a hell of a college QB and I think he could be a stud in the NFL but it's not a given- he's a bit on the smallish side and has a decent arm but it's not exactly strong- can he shoot the ball and fit it into tight windows will be the tell of the tale for him in the NFL. Cam Ward would be my QB #1 but after those 2 it's pretty slim QB pickens in this draft. Quinn Ewers is very talented but super inconsistent and he's always injured- he's definitely slipped into 2nd or 3rd rd territory. Jawjaw QB stock tanked, LSU kid stock tanked, and Drew Allar stock tanked so they are all staying in school another year.
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Need to apologize again to Fearless and any other Vikings fans. (I think FF is a Vikings fan, but I'm not sure.)
I watched them last night and as I've mentioned before, my own little voodoo hex kicked in for them. I hardly ever get Vikings or Bengals games and when they're on I try to watch, hoping to see Jefferson or Chase for nostalgic reasons, but also because I hear so much about them in the league. But all they ever do is suck arse when I watch.
I remembered the game was on a little late, so I turned it on just in time for Buck/Aikman talk about a Jefferson TD....which I missed. Then almost immediately--while I'm watching--he derps away an accurate throw that would've at worst been down inside the 5, maybe scored. That's followed up by Darnold misfiring several throws to him wide open, and also a crazy-good spin move on a defender for a first down that got nullified by a holding penalty. That's the kind of stuff, along with being erased by double-coverages, that happens when I try to watch those two guys.
At this point I'm almost ready to believe the rest of the world is gaslighting me and neither one of them are doing jack squat in the NFL, because they never do it when I'm watching. It's kind of like the quantum physics thing where my observation affects their reality. They're good, supposedly, as long as I'm not watching them.
Occasionally I would get up and do other stuff for a few minutes and I'd hear Buck call a completion or some type of good play for him.
Yeah, right. I'm on to you, Joe Buck.
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https://twitter.com/jimdrunknmiller/status/1868787508643086435
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Would San Francisco give their first for JJ McCarthy? Put a rookie QB contract into that offense? And yes, giving up a first, but he was a top 10 pick just a year ago, and this crop of rookie QBs looks elite. They all look like legit NFL QBs, at worst, and with these weapons, the floor is enough
SF better off doing that than giving Purdy this contract...
https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1868766817315176848
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Bears shoulda kept Fields and drafted an entire OL. Man, they are so f'ing stupid.
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Bears shoulda kept Fields and drafted an entire OL. Man, they are so f'ing stupid.
Bears should’ve hired Jeem. He took Kapernick who isn’t half as talented as Justin Fields to three straight NFC title games and a Super Bowl.
Instead they hired the incompetent Kevin fatfuck Warren to run the team and he refused to interview Jeem. Lulz.
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Bears should’ve hired Jeem. He took Kapernick who isn’t half as talented as Justin Fields to three straight NFC title games and a Super Bowl.
Instead they hired the incompetent Kevin fatfuck Warren to run the team and he refused to interview Jeem. Lulz.
I don't think Jeem wanted that job
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I don't think Jeem wanted that job
ESPN insider former Raiders/Patriots GM and current UNC GM Michael Lombardi who has a close friendship with Jeem says it's true. Jeem wanted to interview for the job and Kevin Warren refused to talk to Jeem. Lulz.
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Kirk benched for Penix
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/falcons-bench-kirk-cousins-for-michael-penix-jr
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https://twitter.com/TitansRuined/status/1868864245968015672
https://twitter.com/SoonersInsider/status/1869031692289356192
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Kirk benched for Penix
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/falcons-bench-kirk-cousins-for-michael-penix-jr
FKC
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FKC
I think Kirk is just washed, happens. He’s up there in age. Always felt like he got a bad rap. He was a good NFL QB for a long time, not an elite one. Reason why he ever got shit is because he was paid so much. But that’s not his fault. Market for QB’s is nuts. Look at what Dallas is paying Dak and what the 49ers are rumored to be prepared to pay Purdy. Only a handful of guys are actually worth that kind of money. You can count them on one hand.
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https://twitter.com/AB84/status/1869579680954855702
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The Athletic article about Woody Johnson confirms that the Jets will never be worth a shit as long as he's around.
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The Athletic article about Woody Johnson confirms that the Jets will never be worth a shit as long as he's around.
The Onion: https://theonion.com/more-parents-say-allowing-child-to-play-football-not-worth-risk-of-being-drafted-by-jets/
(https://i.imgur.com/MJHyDwf.jpeg)
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https://theonion.com/more-parents-say-allowing-child-to-play-football-not-worth-risk-of-being-drafted-by-jets/
Looks familiar ;)
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this is WILD....
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1869762546699481530
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https://twitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1869244512985596000
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this is WILD....
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1869762546699481530
It's crazy how just being born into money doesn't make you a good owner. And it's crazy that the NFL is as successful as it is when the biggest market has 2 teams owned by clowns. The 2nd biggest market has 2 teams, neither of which has a fan base. The 3rd biggest market can't stop stepping on rakes.
Imagine how MLB would be feeling right now if the Yankees and Mets had both been horrible for a decade, nobody cared about the Angels and Dodgers, and the White Sox had horrible ownership, ok, well, that part is true. Oh, and the Royals were the face of the league.
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It's crazy how just being born into money doesn't make you a good owner.
Jimmy Hasbeen(BROWNS) is a case in point
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Yuck. Flipped on NFL in time to see a beautiful touchdown pass from CJ Stroud to Tank Dell. Then a gruesome leg injury to Dell on the play. 🤮
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Lions have 22 guys on IR and still beat the brakes off the Bears. Man how bad do the Bears suck?
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Bungles worked over the Browns.Bears V Browns that just might be to painful for anyone to watch except for Nurse Wratchet's patients
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way too early prediction....Michael Penix Jr will wind up being the best QB in this draft. the way that guy throws the football is just....beautiful. his arm talent is ridiculous.
https://twitter.com/gxrrettgsn/status/1870978381723975698
what happened to Kyle Pitts? I thought he was going to be so good after his rookie year...turns out he sucks. Penix threw an absolute dime right in his mitts absolutely perfect throw....how does Pitts not catch that lol.
https://twitter.com/Ihartitz/status/1870913875228733628
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no wonder why nick won so much. 11 more NFL players than the #2 school.
https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1870906193583259853
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way too early prediction....Michael Penix Jr will wind up being the best QB in this draft. the way that guy throws the football is just....beautiful. his arm talent is ridiculous.
Well, it ain't gonna be Caleb Williams.
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Lamar Jackson is a cheat code. Looks like a man playing against children. Looks like a video game. Makes it look easy. Ridiculous how good that guy is.
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Lamar Jackson is a cheat code. Looks like a man playing against children. Looks like a video game. Makes it look easy. Ridiculous how good that guy is.
And until his Ravens teams stop melting down in the playoffs amid a rash of poor strategy, unforced errors and, as Bill Belichick once stated, "stupid fucking penalties", they cant be trusted.
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And until his Ravens teams stop melting down in the playoffs amid a rash of poor strategy, unforced errors and, as Bill Belichick once stated, "stupid fucking penalties", they cant be trusted.
no disagreement there. Ravens have blown playoff games & MVP seasons from Lamar. He’s got to do it in the playoff but no doubt he’s the MVP this year imo. He’s in that early 2000s Peyton Manning phase where he’s just ripping the entire league in the regular season and falling short in the playoffs. Fair or unfair he’s not going to viewed as he should until he wins a Super Bowl. Peyton got that monkey off his back eventually, time for Lamar to do the same.
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I don't know why anyone would want this job. Where coaches go to die.
5 candidates for the Bears head coach job, including a 73-year-old Pete Carroll (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/5-candidates-for-the-bears-head-coach-job-including-a-73-year-old-pete-carroll/ar-AA1wxkSe?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=f9867954c3ed4b50911c6f1fa484f30a&ei=19)
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I wouldn't mind watching Pete the cheat fail, again
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Anyone who takes that job is going to fail.
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what happened to Kyle Pitts? I thought he was going to be so good after his rookie year...turns out he sucks. Penix threw an absolute dime right in his mitts absolutely perfect throw....how does Pitts not catch that lol.
https://twitter.com/Ihartitz/status/1870913875228733628
Idk, he literally had zero drops in 2020 at Florida.
That is a goofy play, but looking at ATL.....this is Pitts' 4th season, and his 4th starting QB. That could have something to do with it, no?
Ryan-Mariota-Ridder-Cousins
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Idk, he literally had zero drops in 2020 at Florida.
That is a goofy play, but looking at ATL.....this is Pitts' 4th season, and his 4th starting QB. That could have something to do with it, no?
Ryan-Mariota-Ridder-Cousins
no. if you pay any attention to the NFL the past few seasons you'd realize Pitts is just.....bad. which is shocking because he was so promising early on.
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That 2021 Draft is nuts. Trevor Lawrence went #1. You could say he's not a 1-1 guy, but if you can get a legit NFL starting QB, you take that. But then 2-3-4 was Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Kyle Pitts. Vomit
But then JaMarr Chase #5, Jaylen Waddle #6, Penei Sewell #7, Patrick Surtain #9, DeVonta Smith #10, Micah Parsons #12, Rashawn Slater #13.
You wonder how much was screwy tape due to the COVID season.
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man the Patriots suck. Jeem will clinch a playoff spot and have the Chargers in the playoff his first year on the job if they hold this 20 point lead over the Pats. not bad from 5-12 to 10+ win season and playoff in year one of the Jeem era. not bad at all.
Jeem is a fucking oddball and his passing offenses are boring af but god damn he can coach some football.
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Bengals-Broncos clock management would make 13 year olds on Madden embarrassed
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Cowboys looking for a better draft day slot
geez
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man the Patriots suck. Jeem will clinch a playoff spot and have the Chargers in the playoff his first year on the job if they hold this 20 point lead over the Pats. not bad from 5-12 to 10+ win season and playoff in year one of the Jeem era. not bad at all.
Jeem is a fucking oddball and his passing offenses are boring af but god damn he can coach some football.
With the Los Angeles Chargers now playoff-bound following a win over the New England Patriots on Saturday afternoon, few have it better than head coach Jim Harbaugh. And his pocketbook is doing well, too.
By clinching one of the AFC’s wildcard slots — Kansas City has won the AFC West already — Harbaugh has the Chargers in the tournament and triggered a big bonus, as he’s set to earn $1 million for making it to the postseason, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. That’s on top of his already hefty reported base salary of $16 million annually.
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Browns rolling over at home 13-3 in the 3rd and Saquon Barkley surpasses 2,000 rushing yards becomes ninth RB to do so
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Packers suck
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(https://i.imgur.com/MYlQAqh.jpeg)
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Kyle Pitts reads this board?
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Packers suck
To bad your GIF wasn't Aaron Rodgers
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I'm not perfect
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hard to say he made a mistake leaving early for the NFL as he had just went 28-1 as a starter in college, won a Natty and was a top 10 pick, but JJ stays for his SR year he's probably playing in the cfb playoffs and in the hunt for another Natty and he's probably the #1 pick in the 2025 NFL draft.
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1874542555502661833
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he also could have been injured
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I don't see how playing in Kirk Campbell's offense would have helped him
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I suppose it;s in his best interest to be traded if the Vikings don't think he can beat out Darnold. No sense in him sitting on the bench there if he's starter quality.
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I suppose it;s in his best interest to be traded if the Vikings don't think he can beat out Darnold. No sense in him sitting on the bench there if he's starter quality.
Well, it's not just that. Darnold will get mid-starter money, either from Minnesota or elsewhere. A 1st round QB on a rookie contract is a valuable commodity. You either need to let Darnold walk, and use that money to put more dudes around McCarthy, or trade JJ while he still has value
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personally I'd roll with JJ and let Darnold walk. I ain't paying Darnold $40 or $50 million a year. Yeah, no thanks. Dude had a career year- but even Scott Mitchell had one of those. Blind squirrel finds a nut, as they say. Darnold has been mostly ass for his entire career. Just because he struck gold one year on a team with a loaded skill talent core and a head coach that is a QB guy and demon play-caller doesn't mean he's all that and a bag of chips. Odds are very high that Darnold is going to regress back to the mean and this was just a fluke imo.
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It's certainly a good/shitty situation. The fact that the whole locker room is behind Darnold makes it tougher. I just hope whatever they decide is wrong
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It's certainly a good/shitty situation. The fact that the whole locker room is behind Darnold makes it tougher. I just hope whatever they decide is wrong
Darnold probably never plays a down this year if JJ doesn't tear his meniscus in the pre-season. JJ was going to be their starter until he got injured. JJ is going to be 22 by the time the next season starts and is on a team friendly 4-year rookie deal with a 5th year team option that all in will cost them under $40 million for the entire 5 years. Darnold is going to be 28 by the time the next season starts and they are going to have to pay him $40 to $50 million a year to keep him.
JJ has serious upside, he was far from a finished product at Michigan. He's a very fluid twitched up athlete for QB and he's got high end arm talent- he can make every throw puts lot of rpm/zip on the ball and he throws darts on the run very well. JJ with a coach like O'Connell in that system has the chance to really flourish and take off. O'Connell rejuvenated Kirk Cousins career and he just took Sam Darnold who was one of the biggest QB draft busts in recent memory and made him a real life QB.
I'd take the younger, cheaper, more athletic option over paying $40 to $50 million a year to the older option who by the way could wind up being a one year fluke, but hey that's just me.
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I don't disagree with you, and listening to the Athletic and Ringer podcast they didn't either, until the past couple weeks. But they have flipped to, if you win the #1 seed, and do something in the postseason, you lose the entire locker room if you don't bring him back.
I think if you can flip him to SF for another 1st round pick, you do it
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yup, Darnold certainly wasn't proven a few months ago but.......
if he takes the Vikes to the super bowl, he's proven and the team is proven the way it sits
JJ has a ton of upside, but wasn't the top QB taken, not a lock, and has proven only that he can be injured so far
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yup, Darnold certainly wasn't proven a few months ago but.......
if he takes the Vikes to the super bowl, he's proven and the team is proven the way it sits
JJ has a ton of upside, but wasn't the top QB taken, not a lock, and has proven only that he can be injured so far
All good points.
Vikings make the Super Bowl with Darnold they almost have to keep him. Idk how you move on from a dude that took you to the promised land.
JJ is still on such a cheap deal they can pay Darnold a ransom and develop JJ. But if San Fran offers you a top 5-10 pick and some other goodies for JJ- would be really hard to turn that down.
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All good points.
Vikings make the Super Bowl with Darnold they almost have to keep him. Idk how you move on from a dude that took you to the promised land.
JJ is still on such a cheap deal they can pay Darnold a ransom and develop JJ. But if San Fran offers you a top 5-10 pick and some other goodies for JJ- would be really hard to turn that down.
Ed Zachery
kick the can down the road one season by keeping both - heck Darnold could get injured next season
but, if someone makes you an offer you can't refuse - thinking even a better chance at winning the SB next season, take it.
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SF should offer all the picks they can. Its amazing how good they are, despite trading up for Trey Lance, and then wasted a 3rd round pick on a kicker. They are better at acquiring talent through other means
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https://twitter.com/theMMQB/status/1875641832526508203?t=snIq1LaQoPbOizJ42XuCyw&s=19
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Ravens laying it on the Browns 14-0 but Jimmy Haslem has already bought land for a new stadium and thinks i should pony up my beer money to build it for him
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And the present stadium is 25 yrs old
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Screw him and the NFL,BUH-BYE
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https://twitter.com/theMMQB/status/1875641832526508203?t=snIq1LaQoPbOizJ42XuCyw&s=19
Rrrgh. Thats stinks.
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not for the Vikes
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suckin down a few ice cold schooners this afternoon,............. I put down a cool $100 on the lions straight up
hope I lose some cash
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https://twitter.com/travisyost/status/1875893652041650396?t=dSGp2GzDlM7UDBWffxYWiw&s=19
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My neighbor can't give away his Colts tix today. Pleading w me all week.
I see StubHub bottomed out at $2 before fees.
Jags and Colts, yes indoors but as snow storm begins.
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Duh Bears did it!!!!
Go PAck Go!
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Patriots win cost them the #1 overall pick. Could have either taken Travis Hunter, or traded down and gotten a haul for a QB desperate team. Now at #4, they can't get Hunter, and nobody is trading up for the 3rd best QB in this draft
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That's just turrible
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Patriots win cost them the #1 overall pick. Could have either taken Travis Hunter, or traded down and gotten a haul for a QB desperate team. Now at #4, they can't get Hunter, and nobody is trading up for the 3rd best QB in this draft
so stoopid, it cost the Pat's coach his job
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ya see what happens when the Refs don't help the Chiefs?
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Patriots win cost them the #1 overall pick. Could have either taken Travis Hunter, or traded down and gotten a haul for a QB desperate team. Now at #4, they can't get Hunter, and nobody is trading up for the 3rd best QB in this draft
I still don’t buy Hunter at #1 overall. He’s a really good WR but is he the best WR in the draft? No. He’s a really good CB but is he the best CB in the draft? No. I’ve seen Hunter give up 3 TD’s in a single game in coverage. Will Johnson gave up 2 in his entire collegiate career- and both were as a true frosh. Will J has scored more pick 6 touchdowns than touchdowns he’s given up as a corner in coverage. And Will has played MUCH better receivers in his collegiate career than Travis Hunter did.
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Are these regular Lions home unis now? Yuk.
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Are these regular Lions home unis now? Yuk.
Funny you say that. They are beloved unis by the fans.
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Missed obvious delay of game fortunately doesnt bite Detroit
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Are these regular Lions home unis now? Yuk.
No, I think this is the third time theyve worn them. They are on par with all the ither blah 3rd uniforms. Vikings and Packers all white helmets are blah. I do like the Broncos throwbacks they wore today
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Rrrgh. Thats stinks.
Didnt exactly go as planned. Took a $1.6 million loss, and some of those Vikings fans turned around and sold yhem anyway
https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2025/1/5/24336344/notes-detroit-lions-minnesota-vikings-ford-field-fans-tickets-bought-season-ticket-holders-plot
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Goff and Darnold pumpkining under the bright lights
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4th and inches, you have the best center in the NFL, arguably, and you don't just sneak it?
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Defense playing its asses off with 12 guys on IR, and Jared Goff cant stop fucking up
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Game ball to Anzalone if they pull this off
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Wow, Van Ginkel should have had a game tying pick six. Instead drive continues, and Lions punch it in
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Lions have dropped 3 picks already.
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game over
didn't think Darnold was gonna suck this bad
knew it would be tough to win in Detroit
I put $100 on the Lions
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They actually put one NFL playoff game exclusively on Amazon?
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game over
didn't think Darnold was gonna suck this bad
he’s Sam Darnold…thinking he doesn’t suck is a fools errand.
he has always sucked and he always will, dude just had a Scott Mitchell type one fluke year on a loaded offense with a great coach scheming the offense. It was always just a fluke year bound to come crashing back to reality. This is who he is and always has been….you don’t completely fucking suck ass as a QB for 7-8 years in the NFL and then magically get good…point blank period just doesn’t happen.
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This year he threw for 4153 yds and 68.1% completion average, I'd say he had a better year throwing than you posting. That's comparable to Goffs(71.7, 4398) and Burrows(70.6, 4918) who lead the league.Baker Mayfield is 3rd look at him 71.7 4279. Who the Browns threw on the trash pile. And statistically speaking he is 4th in the league
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This is a missed read that a professional QB cannot make
https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1876265991325548581
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I suppose there was a problem with my local NBC affiliate (i.e., I suppose this was not a national broadcast problem).....for the entire first quarter of last night's game the audio was a jumbled mess with Tirico/Collinsworth's normal broadcast feed, but also a dual-broadcast by some excited Spanish-speaking dudes on top of it. It was hilarious and annoying at the same time. I asked my FIL (in another market) if he was hearing the same thing, he said it must just be us. Weird, but somewhat entertaining.
Yes, I watched the Vikings again, and yes, they looked like turd again. My curse is undefeated.
I swear I don't understand how Justin Jefferson is a top WR. Guy looks like poop every time I've ever seen him in the pros.
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I suppose there was a problem with my local NBC affiliate (i.e., I suppose this was not a national broadcast problem).....for the entire first quarter of last night's game the audio was a jumbled mess with Tirico/Collinsworth's normal broadcast feed,
That's just what they sound like.
As for Jefferson, he's not a great route runner, but he's such a physical freak, and he has great hands, that he can usually compensate. Darnold got away all season by just throwing it up to him and Addison, and it didn't happen last night
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Also, much like I said with the CFP, you want to reward conference champs with a bye, I'm ok with that, but then seed the quarterfinals based on their actual ranking.
For the NFL, you want to reward the bye, and the 3 home games to division champs, I'm ok with that, but then seems like the divisional round should be seeded purely by record, or just don't reseed. It seems even weirder to reseed, when the seeds don't actually correlate to the records
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Getting a 3rd straight division championship next year might be a little tougher
https://twitter.com/RyanFieldABC/status/1876138948105564527
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Looks like Christian Watson has a torn ACL.
So Packers played their starters, lost at home to Chicago anyway, so now they have to go to Philly rather than Tampa, lost Watson for the season, and Love left the game with an elbow injury
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This is a missed read that a professional QB cannot make
No excuse for that good catch,maybe Mdot is having a better year but anyone wantt Deshaun Watson?
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Looks like Christian Watson has a torn ACL.
So Packers played their starters, lost at home to Chicago anyway, so now they have to go to Philly rather than Tampa, lost Watson for the season, and Love left the game with an elbow injury
Packers have dominated the NFC Central/North for fucking decades. I wish nothing for them to experience mediocrity for the next 5 decades and I hope they lose every game from here to eternity.
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Looks like Christian Watson has a torn ACL.
So Packers played their starters, lost at home to Chicago anyway, so now they have to go to Philly rather than Tampa, lost Watson for the season, and Love left the game with an elbow injury
Awwww, shucks
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I was critical of not taking Jalen Carter and taking a RB in the 1st round but I'll gladly eat crow and STFU 'cause god damn did Brad Holmes nail these 4 picks in a row...
https://twitter.com/jpownfl/status/1876118355909951820
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Wait, wut?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43312864/sources-bears-request-interview-cowboys-mike-mccarthy
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McCarthy dominated the NFC Central/North for fucking decades.
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I was critical of not taking Jalen Carter and taking a RB in the 1st round but I'll gladly eat crow and STFU 'cause god damn did Brad Holmes nail these 4 picks in a row...
https://twitter.com/jpownfl/status/1876118355909951820
I dunno Chuck Noll 1974
Lynn Swann, wide receiver, USC, first round, 21st overall.
Jack Lambert, linebacker, Kent State, second round, 46th overall.
John Stallworth, wide receiver, Alabama A&M, fourth round, 82nd overall.
Mike Webster, center, Wisconsin, fifth round, 125th overall.
The most remarkable aspect of the draft class the Steelers amassed in 1974 might be that only five players taken in the entire 26-team, 17-round process wound up enshrined in Canton, Ohio.The other was Dave Casper of the Raiders
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Kind of sneaky thing about Tampa Bay's path.
They open at home against Washington, who they already beat 37-20
Then, if the seeds hold, they face Philadelphia, who they already beat 33-16
That would put them in the NFC Championship against Detroit, who they already beat in Detroit
Super Bowl against the Chiefs, who they lost to in OT, meaning they tied in regulation, in Kansas City. So if you believe home field is even worth 1 point...
I'm just saying
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Ya we know already quit rubbing it in.He but at least I pulled TBs ticket out of the hat for the pool I'm in
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Kind of sneaky thing about Tampa Bay's path.
They open at home against Washington, who they already beat 37-20
Then, if the seeds hold, they face Philadelphia, who they already beat 33-16
That would put them in the NFC Championship against Minnesooota, in Minneapolis!!!
I'm just saying
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^^^ Wrong.
Because I'll be watching every playoff game, and Minnesota cannot win, or even play like a competent professional team when I'm watching.
My quantum curse, where they suck if I observe them and play well if I don't, is undefeated, and you'll know something came up and I couldn't watch if they happen to win the wildcard round.
You are, of course, welcome to pay me not to watch. PayPal or straight cash, no checks or Venmo.
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Tom Brady reportedly trying to talk Bill Belichik out of coaching college and going to coach the Raiders.
Raiders have #6 pick so probably not going to be able to get Cam Ward at QB, but maybe they could send that #6 pick to Minnesota for JJ McCarthy if the Vikings re-sign Darnold.
I think JJ with Bill Belichik in Vegas would be kinda interesting.
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Wait, wut?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43312864/sources-bears-request-interview-cowboys-mike-mccarthy
lol you can't make this shit up...the Bears organization is a joke.
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Chargers went from 5-12 the year before to 11-6 and a playoff spot in year 1 of Jeem. Vegas has them favored by 3 points on the road vs the Texans in the wild card round.
weird ass mf but god damn he can coach ball.
Kevin Warren fucked up by 86'ing the Bears interviewing and potentially hiring Jeem- per NFL insider and close friend of Jeem, Michael Lombardi.
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^^^ Wrong.
Because I'll be watching every playoff game, and Minnesota cannot win, or even play like a competent professional team when I'm watching.
My quantum curse, where they suck if I observe them and play well if I don't, is undefeated, and you'll know something came up and I couldn't watch if they happen to win the wildcard round.
You are, of course, welcome to pay me not to watch. PayPal or straight cash, no checks or Venmo.
I probably won't be watching either
on Vaca with my daughters in Cali
no soup for you!
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In Cali, there for a fire sale?
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nope, San Fran area
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hell of a story, hell of a player. Ole' Saint Nick Saban loved Mikey during the ESPN draft coverage called him his favorite player and the best pound for pound player in the draft.
https://twitter.com/TWH_Chris/status/1877405650721849351
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Browns, Jets and Jaguars will serve as the home teams for the 3 London games in 2025 apparently.
I guess the move is to try to get the UK to hate American football?
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nope, San Fran area
Hey, welcome. Hope you enjoy your time here. Where in the Bay are your daughters?
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oldest is in Minneapolis, youngest in Lincoln
their first time to visit Cali
We're dining and drinking at Sam's Anchor Cafe and staying in Tiburon tomorrow night.
Healdsburg Sunday night after some wine tasting
Monterey and the Aquarium Monday and Tuesday night
in the city Wednesday - Friday and flying back Saturday
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oldest is in Minneapolis, youngest in Lincoln
their first time to visit Cali
We're dining and drinking at Sam's Anchor Cafe and staying in Tiburon tomorrow night.
Healdsburg Sunday night after some wine tasting
Monterey and the Aquarium Monday and Tuesday night
in the city Wednesday - Friday and flying back Saturday
How much does the all-you-can-eat fish run at the Bronson Bar? Looks good. I might move there.
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Looks good. I might move there.
Thank You For Your Support
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oldest is in Minneapolis, youngest in Lincoln
their first time to visit Cali
We're dining and drinking at Sam's Anchor Cafe and staying in Tiburon tomorrow night.
Healdsburg Sunday night after some wine tasting
Monterey and the Aquarium Monday and Tuesday night
in the city Wednesday - Friday and flying back Saturday
Very nice. When my wife and I go in a couple months we're doing 2 nights in Healdsburg.
I think I've mentioned it before, but Korbel is due west of Healdsburg, and is an absolutely beautiful property. They also have a nice deli... Might be a good thing to try if your daughters are into sparkling wines at all.
One caveat--the straight shot between Healdsburg and River Road (where Korbel is located) is a road called Westside Road. The half of the road nearest Korbel is tight, windy, bumpy, and has no center line. It's beautiful (it follows a nice little creek), but have your wits about you and take it slow if you're going through--and I would NOT suggest planning to do something like Korbel just before dark and trying to navigate Westside in the dark. The half nearest Healdsburg is just dotted with little wineries though, so might be cool. That's actually our plan when we go--drive out to Korbel for the first stop of the day for a tasting and lunch at the deli, and then we've mapped out a bunch of wineries in between that take walk-ins for tasting as we make our way back to Healdsburg.
Also, Russian River Brewing is one of the most well-regarded craft breweries in the US, and while it might not make sense to go down to their original location in Santa Rosa, they opened a new spot in Windsor, just south of Healdsburg. If you're all wine-d out and want something less stuffy for dinner, it's a good option. (Full disclosure: I have not yet been to the Windsor location, only the original.)
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I love Sonoma (it's better than most of Napa).
Montage, Ridge, and Jordan are all excellent and near Healdsburg. Of course there are many other wineries worth going to.
I have many thoughts about the City, although they tend to trend pretty nerdy. Seems like you'll be here for a few days. I'm happy to share them here, or via message, if you're interested.
Sam's is great. And if you don't have fog it will be beautiful. The aquarium in Monterey is really cool. The Wharf there is a little overly touristy, but it's still kinda fun. Don't know if you'll have the time, but 17 Mile Drive is spectacular. Worth paying the $20 or whatever it is to drive down to Carmel through Pebble Beach. It will be a bit of a haul from Healdsburg to Monterey. Are you stopping at the Muir Woods, or any other redwood groves? Muir requires reservations, but there are other (not quite as awesome) places to see coastal redwoods without a reservation.
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Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson underwent surgery on Thursday after tearing his Achilles for the second time since October, the team announced on Friday.
"Yesterday, Deshaun Watson underwent a second surgery to repair his right Achilles tendon rupture. Watson initially tore the tendon during the Browns' Week 7 game against the Cincinnati Bengals on Oct. 20. His first surgery was performed on Oct. 25. Earlier this week, when Watson reported to CrossCountry Mortgage Campus for his exit physical as part of the Browns' season-ending process, he complained of discomfort after rolling his ankle in Miami. MRI results demonstrated a re-rupture to his Achilles tendon. Dr. Bob Anderson, a foot and ankle specialist in Charlotte, NC, performed both surgeries. Watson's recovery time and return to play status is uncertain, and he will likely miss significant time during the 2025 season."
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I originally planned 2 nights in Healdsburg, but the youngsters want 3 nights in the city.
Korbel sounds great. We'll see what time we get to Healdsburg Sunday and what time we leave Monday.
Russian River Brewing is on the list. Too much to do and so little time.
the youngest really wants to stop at Hog Island Oyster Farm leaving Healdsburg.
Redwood groves are a must. not sure about Muir Woods
I'm thinking of driving down to Pebble while they're at the aquarium - I visited the pro shop there about 30 years ago
Sam's is maybe my favorite place to eat and drink. (anywhere)
Spent many evenings there while in training in Sausalito at AutoDesk in the 90s
always stayed at the Lodge in Tiburon - easy walk from Sam's
SFBadger96 - the youngsters have some ideas about what they want to do in the city, but I'll take recommendations
I have notes from betarhoalphadelta
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Caleb Williams stays taking L's on and off the field...
https://twitter.com/woodwardsports/status/1877907779970593224
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Nice to see Stroud and the Texans send Hairball and the Chargers back home and into the off season.
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Nice to see Stroud and the Texans send Hairball and the Chargers back home and into the off season.
https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1878240370187784358?t=BCBHA5EToqgt8ENxWdac-g&s=19
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Browns, Jets and Jaguars will serve as the home teams for the 3 London games in 2025 apparently.
I guess the move is to try to get the UK to hate American football?
I think the whole NFL in London is supremely stupid, because they don’t have a base of football fans composed of high school, college, and finally pros. You can’t just skip 20 years of sports and force a pro fan ship.
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Nice to see Stroud and the Texans send Hairball and the Chargers back home and into the off season.
ya amazing what happens when booger doesn't have adults pointing out what's going to happen
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https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1878240370187784358?t=BCBHA5EToqgt8ENxWdac-g&s=19
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That's who Harbaugh reminded me of - The Reverend Jim
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ya amazing what happens when booger doesn't have adults pointing out what's going to happen
Gtfo here. Chargers were 5-12 the year before Jeem and had one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
Year 1 of Jeem they flip that to 11-6 make the playoff and have the #1 ranked defense in the NFL per all the stats.
they lost a playoff game on the road to a team with a great young QB. it happens.
Chargers are going to be good for awhile and if they actually get a couple receivers in the draft or f/a they’ll go from playoff contender to SB contender.
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Nice to see Stroud and the Texans send Hairball and the Chargers back home and into the off season.
Nice to see Stroud actually win a game Vs a Harbaugh. Believe he was 0-7 in combined Harbaugh games Vs Jeem & John including his college career where he went 0-2. :)
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Pats hire Mike Vrabel to be their new HC. Sorry Bucknutjob fans. Vrabes was the dude all the looney tunes on the Ohio message boards and twitters were fiending for after Cryin Ryan dropped his 4th straight L vs Michigan at home as 20 pt favorites.
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Nice to see Stroud actually win a game Vs a Harbaugh. Believe he was 0-7 in combined Harbaugh games Vs Jeem & John including his college career where he went 0-2. :)
Yep. The two had a nice exchange/embrace after the game. Harbaugh had high praise for him in the post game presser.
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Pats hire Mike Vrabel to be their new HC. Sorry Bucknutjob fans. Vrabes was the dude all the looney tunes on the Ohio message boards and twitters were fiending for after Cryin Ryan dropped his 4th straight L vs Michigan at home as 20 pt favorites.
Another Buckeye head coach. Awesome!
actually, I’m glad the Looney Tunes buckeye fans have now come to their senses. We have a guy who is 69 wins and 10 losses for the best winning percentage of all active college coaches and a guy who has won four games this season alone against top five teams I like that guy.
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Yep. The two had a nice exchange/embrace after the game. Harbaugh had high praise for him in the post game presser.
he is a phenomenal young player and seems like a good person and class act. type of player/person you wish for at QB in the NFL. basically the complete opposite of a DeShaun Watson. Texans were extremely fortunate to go from that type of person to Stroud.
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Another Buckeye head coach. Awesome!
actually, I’m glad the Looney Tunes buckeye fans have now come to their senses. We have a guy who is 69 wins and 10 losses for the best winning percentage of all active college coaches and a guy who has won four games this season alone against top five teams I like that guy.
I have to admit I was kind of hoping they’d cave into the pressure and fire Ryan Day. It’s not a given you’re just going to find someone who wins around 89% of his games. Was hoping Ohio State would panic fire him and go on a run of hiring bad coaches but luckily for the rational fans like yourself the crazies on the internet don’t make hiring/firing coaching decisions.
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Gtfo here. Chargers were 5-12 the year before Jeem and had one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
Year 1 of Jeem they flip that to 11-6 make the playoff and have the #1 ranked defense in the NFL per all the stats.
they lost a playoff game on the road to a team with a great young QB. it happens.
Chargers are going to be good for awhile and if they actually get a couple receivers in the draft or f/a they’ll go from playoff contender to SB contender.
they had injuries, my misguided michigan coorespondent.Stats - lies,damn lies and statistics.Booger better have excellent staff and draft as if too many things go south he won't figure it out.
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I have to admit I was kind of hoping they’d cave into the pressure and fire Ryan Day. It’s not a given you’re just going to find someone who wins around 89% of his games. Was hoping Ohio State would panic fire him and go on a run of hiring bad coaches but luckily for the rational fans like yourself the crazies on the internet don’t make hiring/firing coaching decisions.
C'mon you hypocrite you called for booger's head when he was 0-5 vs tOSU and 1-4 in the bowls. Can't have it both ways and Day didn't change things up - that came from Kelly who listened to Bucks RB Coach Carlos Locklyn who was on Mike Norvell's staff's with Dillingham and Lanning at Memphis and Fla.St.And also with Lanning in ORE. It's all about implimenting the counter - You can hear all about it here - it's time stamped. If it wasn't for play off extension Day may have been released,No excuses for shitting the bed in the shoe vs M THIS SEASON. You'd liked DAY for the same reason you & other M fans liked Cooper
https://youtu.be/uQmD5W3fndM?t=644
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C'mon you hypocrite you called for booger's head when he was 0-5 vs tOSU and 1-4 in the bowls. Can't have it both ways and Day didn't change things up - that came from Kelly who listened to Bucks RB Coach Carlos Locklyn who was on Mike Norvell's staff's with Dillingham and Lanning at Memphis and Fla.St.And also with Lanning in ORE. It's all about implimenting the counter - You can hear all about it here - it's time stamped. If it wasn't for play off extension Day may have been released,No excuses for shitting the bed in the shoe vs M THIS SEASON. You'd liked DAY for the same reason you & other M fans liked Cooper
https://youtu.be/uQmD5W3fndM?t=644
This is incorrect on so many levels ( regarding Day and Kelly).
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no my friend it isn't follow the history Day has non with that type of offense and went full thicko backing up and running into michigan's wall. There are non so blind as those who refuse to see. You proof otherwise He has benefitted from advantages of a program that recruited itself .He was at New Hampshire and followed chip around the League for a few seasons.Then rode URBZ coatails into the gig, He never recruited the trenches well as did his 2 predessors and OSU's deep pockets kept this team together and the extended season saved his skin
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no my friend it isn't follow the history Day has non with that type of offense and went full thicko backing up and running into michigan's wall. There are non so blind as those who refuse to see. You proof otherwise He has benefitted from advantages of a program that recruited itself .He was at New Hampshire and followed chip around the League for a few seasons.Then rode URBZ coatails into the gig, He never recruited the trenches well as did his 2 predessors and OSU's deep pockets kept this team together and the extended season saved his skin
Nubbz- you need to stop reading and believing the crap you read by amateurs on forums. Virtually everything you posted here is wrong, or twisted.
Day coached, successfully, at New Hampshire, Temple, Boston College, Florida, and in the NFL at Philadelphia and San Francisco.
Urbz was DESPERATE to upgrade his offense after escaping UM in OT in 2016 ( OSU couldn’t pass) and then getting BLOWN OUT BY CLEMSON in the CFP ( OSU couldn’t pass).
Urbz pursued Day because Day had earned a reputation as an offensive guru.
Day rewarded that decision by putting 62 points on UM in his first year calling plays, and 54 in Ann Arbor in his first year as HC ( 2019). We all know what would have happened in 2020. Coattails my ass.
The guy is 69-10! He has already defeated 5 of the 12 teams in this year’s playoff. What are you saying? He screwed up against Michigan, but the wins over Indiana, Penn State, Tennessee, Oregon and Texas were flukes? Or give credit for those wins to Knowles and Chip? ( who hired them)?
And this narrative about “ the trenches”? Who is substantially better than OSU in the trenches? I would say on the defensive side, Maybe UM but that’s it. Who recruited JT? Sawyer? Tyliek? Not to mention Caleb Downs, Cody Simon and the rest of the nation’s #1 defense? Ryan Day did.
On the offensive line, who recruited Josh Simmons, projected 1st LT in the draft? Seth- projected top center? Is it Day’s fault they got hurt? And can’t you give credit for taking a patchwork of inexperienced backups and making them good enough to DESTROY Tennessee and Oregon and beat Texas. Hell, it’s been brilliant.
And the Michigan game. That’s a whole different conversation. But if you remember Ohio State throwing out of their own end on 3rd and long- from their own 10 yard line- that is not a scared play call. It is very AGGRESSIVE. Of course it backfired, got intercepted and gave UM their only TD. And on their next possession Howard literally got knocked out ( as we have now learned). So yeah- it’s my firm belief Day and Kelly got conservative at that point. But it was not their original intent. Just look at their first drive. Throwing it all over the yard. Can’t really blame them at that point. Hell- they were a couple of chip shot missed FGs from being heroes.
I don’t think their playoff offense is much different. Maybe a tad more aggressive since there is no tomorrow. But the Texas defense showed, you still have to take what the other team is giving you.
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Sorry HB it is you can't come to the realization that the biggest advantage DAY had he threw away. Hey I'm glad the program is a game away of getting crowned but he didn't scramble for the answers.I agree with Pro Football focus here. There clearly wasn't anything analytical about him and everything I stated is a fact.Were you in surgery or out of the country on November 30th? You think that is brilliance?We'll make some bets next year and you can back your play.The moron ran repeatedly into the teeth of Michigan's only remaining strong point,and he is paid more than Dabo who has won 2 NC's. He literally walked around the shoe in a daze after the lose. A year ago tOSU doesn't make the field and the deep pockets of the program saved him. Very fortunate the asst coaches and the boosters bailed him out. You put him outside of a blue blood and he would struggle. Even booger called out him out as 3rd base
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Sorry HB it is you can't come to the realization that the biggest advantage DAY had he threw away. Hey I'm glad the program is a game away of getting crowned but he didn't scramble for the answers.I agree with Pro Football focus here. There clearly wasn't anything analytical about him and everything I stated is a fact.Were you in surgery or out of the country on November 30th? You think that is brilliance?We'll make some bets next year and you can back your play.The moron ran repeatedly into the teeth of Michigan's only remaining strong point,and he is paid more than Dabo who has won 2 NC's. He literally walked around the shoe in a daze after the lose. A year ago tOSU doesn't make the field and the deep pockets of the program saved him. Very fortunate the asst coaches and the boosters bailed him out. You put him outside of a blue blood and he would struggle. Even booger called out him out as 3rd base
I guess we will just agree to disagree.
We do agree that he/they blew it against Michigan. No dispute there ( although it likely lit the players fire for the playoffs).
But again- the rest of your post is silly.
Everything good that has been accomplished-your giving credit too everyone but him. “ deep pockets”. As if he didn’t just beat 2 teams that spent more, or as if every major program doesn’t have deep pockets. go talk to the fans at Alabama, LSU, Oregon, and Texas. How did their “deep pockets” turn out this season
Or your giving credit to his assistants. Do you realize how stupid that sounds. Who assembled the staff?
You can’t have it both ways. The buck stops here at the feet of the head coach. He gets the credit when things are going well and gets the blame when things are not. But you, you don’t see it that way. You have a preconceived notion.
He has the best winning% of ALL ACTIVE COACHES. He has beaten FOUR TOP 5 teams this season and FIVE TOP TEN TEAMS. IF( a big if) they win their next- he will have accomplished something that has never been done. Never. Beating 5 top five teams in one season.
But according to you, he can’t coach a lick.
silly.
The only place you can knock him is he has not performed well against Michigan. He is only 1 and 4. But even there I would argue that in those four losses, three of those Michigan team teams were actually better teams. This year there are no excuses.
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And by the way, if you could name a coach that has done better this season tell me who it is?
Also, if you could name a coach who would be better suited to run the Ohio State program tell me who you think that is? Someone who wins at the highest percentage, runs a clean program, is beloved by his players and the families of the players. go ahead and tell me who that is.
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Sherrone More - with Less.
November 30th sorry you lost power,I'll take PFF word for it don't believe me fine go to M Boards or MSU boards.And see what they were saying "Hell even Mel Tugger had a winning record vs M". Again Asst coaches dug him out he thought strategy was running into a pile.Never been a an HC before and he proves it - Thankfully Hartline is still balling on the recruiting trail
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Sherrone More - with Less.
November 30th sorry you lost power,I'll take PFF word for it don't believe me fine go to M Boards or MSU boards.And see what they were saying "Hell even Mel Tugger had a winning record vs M". Again Asst coaches dug him out he thought strategy was running into a pile.Never been a an HC before and he proves it - Thankfully Hartline is still balling on the recruiting trail
You can have an 8-5 team and be home watching the playoffs. If that’s your benchmark then now I understand your looney take on this. That and the fact that your opinion is heavily influenced by message board warriors from other teams.
Good lord. By those standards, Ryan Day is by far the worst coach in the country and in the history of college football. 😂😂
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You can have an 8-5 team and be home watching the playoffs. If that’s your benchmark then now I understand your looney take on this. That and the fact that your opinion is heavily influenced by message board warriors from other teams.
Good lord. By those standards, Ryan Day is by far the worst coach in the country and in the history of college football. 😂😂
Good Lord does Day have your party pictures?I'm glad they backed in but he blows and the assistants dug him out. Again go read the boards,not one poster espouses the keeness,wisdom or discerment of a dullard that ignored the league leading receivers BRILLIANT.Lmao. Like OSU has some sorcerer telling Ryan Day to lose the Game in order to win a NC
Heres just some remarks
-Soft culture brings soft results. The players follow their HC who was way in over his head. The issues go way beyond the ones you described. The confident team that knows who they are, plays to their strengths and understands what it takes to win this game is the one who won today.
-Reminds me of the Cooper years. Absolute nightmare
-I wouldn't be surprised if Chip Kelly made a fortune on this game. If you were going to lose a game on purpose this is exactly how you would do it.
-Told my wife “ It’s almost like they are throwing the game “. That is the worst performance I have ever witnessed from OSU.
-Day has to go,i don’t want to hear - but the buyout,but the portal,but the recruiting class
-The thing is the problem 100% is the head coach.
-Let Hartline take over the rest of the season and see how it goes. Day should do the honorable thing and just resign, but he will not, he will take the 50 million buy out to screw OSU more.
-This is the most painful part for me, so many guys came back to essentially win this game and the coaches and kicker fucking blew it.But it should not have come down to him
-Those guys came back and gave A YEAR, of their lives just to have Day crap down his leg AGAIN. I’m over it. I’ll be back to supporting full force when the change I want is made. Until then, good luck Buckeyes.
Not using up anymore space, ad nauseam one post right after another with perfect regularity.
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Good Lord does Day have your party pictures?I'm glad they backed in but he blows and the assistants dug him out. Again go read the boards,not one poster espouses the keeness,wisdom or discerment of a dullard that ignored the league leading receivers BRILLIANT.Lmao. Like OSU has some sorcerer telling Ryan Day to lose the Game in order to win a NC
Heres just some remarks
-Reminds me of the Cooper years. Absolute nightmare
-I wouldn't be surprised if Chip Kelly made a fortune on this game. If you were going to lose a game on purpose this is exactly how you would do it.
-Told my wife “ It’s almost like they are throwing the game “. That is the worst performance I have ever witnessed from OSU.
-Day has to go,i don’t want to hear - but the buyout,but the portal,but the recruiting class
-The thing is the problem 100% is the head coach.
-Let Hartline take over the rest of the season and see how it goes. Day should do the honorable thing and just resign, but he will not, he will take the 50 million buy out to screw OSU more.
-This is the most painful part for me, so many guys came back to essentially win this game and the coaches and kicker fucking blew it.But it should not have come down to him
-Those guys came back and gave A YEAR, of their lives just to have Day crap down his leg AGAIN. I’m over it. I’ll be back to supporting full force when the change I want is made. Until then, good luck Buckeyes.
Not using up anymore space, ad nauseam one post right after another with perfect regularity.
Your funny. “ they backed in”. By smoking Tennessee and Oregon and beating Texas in their home state.
Just admit it. You only care about beating Michigan. That’s ok. A lot of fans feel that was. Day could be 1-11 as long as that 1 is Michigan.
Are we going to have to do a wellness check on you if by chance Day wins a natty?
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no by not winning when they should have - because a blisterhead is in over his head.All of a sudden he has an epiphany? - got anymore of those drugs?There's a reason PFF gets paid for their takes and you don't. Luckily an assistant was paying attention.Last year they wouldn't sniff this far.Tress and URBZ didn't need the boosters stocking their shelves for them.Another Jimbo Fisher,but Day be damned - go Bucks
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no by not winning when they should have - because a blisterhead is in over his head.All of a sudden he has an epiphany? - got anymore of those drugs?There's a reason PFF gets paid for their takes and you don't. Luckily an assistant was paying attention.Last year they wouldn't sniff this far.Tress and URBZ didn't need the boosters stocking their shelves for them.Another Jimbo Fisher,but Day be damned - go Bucks
All good Nubzz. As long as you want him to succeed.
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The NFL was interesting Saturday and yesterday. Was hoping Tampa could win so there would be something to root for around here. Oh well.
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SKOL!!!
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Are we still allowed to talk about the NFL here or is this the Nubbz/HB Day thread now?
Bills continue to look like a handful. They might eventually have to go to Arrowhead and I'm probably crazy to bet against Mahomie, but if it happened, it's tough to pick against the Bills right now. Maybe the Chiefs will eat their Wheaties in the time off and come back sharper, but they sure had a lot of uninspired close calls.
I never thought anything one way or the other about Stroud at tOSU, but since he's the QB of my local market, I found myself rooting for him last season (when the wife wasn't forcing me to watch Dallas) and that's kinda continued. Houston doesn't seem like a great team, but I like CJ and wish him success.
Vikings/Rams, don't care. I'll root for anybody who plays the Eagles.
Caught most of the Commanders/TB game last night. The Commanders are kinda like the Chiefs in that they have a bunch of wins that weren't inspiring, very close, and makes me wonder how long it can last. Don't have much hope for them in Detroit. I suspect the Lions thump them, but I was happy to see Jayden have a good rookie year and get a playoff win. Like Stroud, I find myself rooting for him, though for much more obvious reasons.
......why does Bo Nix look 40 years old?
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I put in a futures bet on the Bills to win the Super Bowl a couple months back, and nothing has made me change my mind on that.
Granted I also put one in on the Packers to win the NFC because the Lions were so injured; Nick Siriani is such a trash coach; and I figured Darnold would turn back into a pumpkin. That one didn't pan out so well, but I've lost money on worse things than a Packers playoff loss
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Go pack go
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Bills/Lions seems like a watchable SB.
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Bills/Lions seems like a watchable SB.
Someone has to win their first then.
Bills whipped the Lions around in Detroit a month ago
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Let's please not interrupt two Buckeye fans arguing about Ryan Day potentially sucking.
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Go pack go
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1878631633651417247?t=wnN5JfaTUpcyVzCPaKo5vA&s=19
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The NFL was interesting Saturday and yesterday. Was hoping Tampa could win so there would be something to root for around here. Oh well.
So was I but had them in a pool - lucky draw
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Are we still allowed to talk about the NFL here or is this the Nubbz/HB Day thread now?
Stifle it Edith :cheer:
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https://twitter.com/riger1984/status/1878996669121081598?t=gaOcnwYlMl1CQk1I1J5jYQ&s=19
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Bills/Lions seems like a watchable SB.
Homerishly I obviously want Detroit, but at this point as long as its not Philly or KC, Im good with the other 6 teams
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The Rams are playing some serious defense but Darnold is helping them.
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The Rams are playing some serious defense but Darnold is helping them.
They were breaking down last week that while Darnold's numbers against the blitz were pretty good, teams generally both blitzed and pressed, the thinking being that if you got pressure, the receivers wouldn't have as much time to get open. but his receivers arent great route runners, and they would just beat teams over the top. Lions bith blitzed and dropped safeties. and LBs. They bet that the Vikings receivers couldn't find the open spots, and that Darnold. wpuldnt fond them if they did. They were right, and Rams doing the same thing
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This is actually making me wonder just how impressive the Lions pass rush actually was last week. Vikings OL looks brutal.
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That was the way everyone thought the Vikings would be playing much earlier on in the season than Week 18.
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They were breaking down last week that while Darnold's numbers against the blitz were pretty good, teams generally both blitzed and pressed, the thinking being that if you got pressure, the receivers wouldn't have as much time to get open. but his receivers arent great route runners, and they would just beat teams over the top. Lions bith blitzed and dropped safeties. and LBs. They bet that the Vikings receivers couldn't find the open spots, and that Darnold. wpuldnt fond them if they did. They were right, and Rams doing the same thing
I've seen you say several times Jefferson is not a good route runner. What is your rationale for that? From what I can glean from trying to keep up with him on paper, he seems to be widely considered one of the best route runners in the game today. It's hard to imagine a guy amassing more yards than anyone in history each cumulative year who is not a great route runner. I've mentioned I barely ever get to watch him, so I don't know a lot about his NFL game. I can say with certainty in college he was a premier route runner, far better than Ja'Marr Chase who survived more on sheer athletic ability, and better than most everyone who played college ball at that time, including CeeDee Lamb. When I do occasionally see him in the NFL I don't see evidence that his route running is a concern. Just curious what you base that on.
You previously said he gets by due to being a physical freak. I mean....I guess I could see that?....he has great hands and was always good at contested catches, but he was not even on LSU's short list of freakish physically gifted WRs. He was not fast by WR standards, or tall by WR standards. He got by in college not by out-athleting his defenders, he was just way too crisp of a route runner and he knew how to get open. I'm surprised to hear you say route running is a weakness for him. I'm not disputing it per se, but I certainly would not have expected it.
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That was the way everyone thought the Vikings would be playing much earlier on in the season than Week 18.
He helped make their decision. Daniel Jones is already on the roster, you can keep him on backup money to be what they thought Darnold was going to be this year, and hand it off to JJ next year
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https://twitter.com/PaulHembo/status/1879191989012550105?t=30HgEror1B7cX4kzKTlqaw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1878240370187784358?t=BCBHA5EToqgt8ENxWdac-g&s=19
Listening to guys on The Athletic discuss this Justin Herbert season, you could literally edit out the name Herbert for Darnold, and it would hold up, and they would disagree with themselves if you did so. "Throws a beautiful ball, doesn't have it upstairs. This was a great bounceback season, and they overachieved. You can't judge him solely off playoff performance." But somehow they are trying to excuse all of Herbert's faults away. The one guy said he thought Herbert would be better than Burrow, but he admits they are the same tier. WHAT???? Herbert is Goff tier, which is fine, if you surround him with talent, which LA hasn't done. I'm not writing him off, he could be fine, but I don't understand why the football brains are still so in love with him
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Darnold just shit the bed in the playoffs
his O-line didn't help him, neither did his coaches
cost him a shit ton of money
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nfl.com has a poll to vote for the Rookie of the Year. There are six options, three of them are from last year's LSU offense.
Brian Kelly had a QB/WR-duo combo literally on par with 2019's historic (for 4 years, anyway) QB/WR-duo combo.
I doubt I'll ever forgive him for wasting that with a historically bad defense. All he had to do was field a Top 50 D, maybe even top 60, and that team wins at least a conference title, maybe more. All he had to do was not be below 100 with roster mismanagement and crap coaches.
Maybe NFL teams will do more with these guys than we could. Although they play for Washington, Jacksonville, and the Giants, so....probably not.
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Darnold just shit the bed in the playoffs
his O-line didn't help him, neither did his coaches
Shoulda paid me not to watch.
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I did put $100 on the Lions the last game of the season
Should have done the same for Monday night
I'd feel a little better
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Houston almost ties KC and misses the PAT 13-12 KC
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Stroud threads the needle there - to a michigan guy Nico Collins
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Houston almost ties KC and misses the PAT 13-12 KC
Tough day for that kicker.
Jared Goff needs to wake up
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Washington center false starts every snap
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Not sure what was worse there. Goff's punt or the punt coverage
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Goff playing like ass, and the defense cant even slightly phase Daniels
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First team to play defense in back to back drives wins
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First team to play defense in back to back drives wins
Nobody has played defense for even one drive. Goff ended 3 of his own drives with shitty plays, Washington ended one of their own with a dumb playcall that didnt work
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Nobody has played defense for even one drive. Goff ended 3 of his own drives with shitty plays, Washington ended one of their own with a dumb playcall that didnt work
Make it 4 drives. Goff happy he already got his money
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Make it 4 drives. Goff happy he already got his money
After seeing that replay, not sure Goff entirely knows where he is. Huge missed call
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Wow, that was lucky
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XIing?
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welp
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Turns out having 15 defenders on IL, and starting 4 guys on defense who were on OTHER TEAMS practice squads this season eventually matters.
Ill say Washington is scary going forward. Daniels is the legit next star, and he still has 3 years on his rookie contract, so they can put talent around him. After this, dudes will want to play for him. Its amazing how much better things get when you jettison a shitty owner
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Disappointing end for the Lions. But Washington kicked their ass.
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Detroit has one more year before they have some major roster issues. But Washington is only going to be better next year
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Detroit might have survived w/ a D of spare parts if they didn't play the no.2 offense.
Still Detroit could have hung 50 on the washington D if they didn't make so many mistakes. If they stay healthy they are still the most talented team next year.
I do wish Detroit would stop these panic-y trick plays. Sure they might work against a D that is overly aggressive but Washington was sitting back and playing read and react D. They knew it was coming and were ready for it.
Philly is a bad matchup for Washington (assuming they beat LA). Hurts might not have to throw the ball more than 20 times next week.
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didn't see the game, was on an airplane ............
was Goff under pressure like Darnold? or just shit the bed on his own?
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have to move on from Goff imo. I think they have about hit their ceiling with him. He'll get you into the dance and possibly even make it to the Super Bowl but you aren't winning it all with him imo. He just doesn't have "it" and he shits down his leg quite often actually and many times at the most inopportune moments. McVey realized this even after they made it to a SB with Goff as the starter- which is why he shipped him off to Detroit for Stafford. I'm making a call to Minnesota and asking if JJ is available if I'm Brad Holmes.
Some other guys need to be moved on from as well, think it's time to move on from Taylor Decker at LT- he was never all that good to begin with imo- and now he's fallen off the proverbial cliff- he is straight ass homie. Cut Decker and move Penei to LT and draft/sign a RT.
Goff unfortunately went full retard- which he's good for 3-4 games a year- just so happened this one was a playoff game- and the defense couldn't stop a JV squad- but I guess they get a pass considering they had like 500 guys on IR and were missing their best player damn near all season in Hutch.
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after Darnold's last 2 performances, ......... JJ is NOT available
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after Darnold's last 2 performances, ......... JJ is NOT available
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I'm sure that Darnold will be available and at a bargain price
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I'm sure that Darnold will be available and at a bargain price
yeah, no thanks.
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The NFC North is the SEC of the NFL. All kinds of bitching about how the system isn't fair, and they actually have the 3 best teams. Then they go out and go 0-3 in the playoffs
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That's the first time all Detroit's losses on defense felt tangible. They smoked Minnesota so hard in the final week I thought they would kill a mid team with a rookie QB on the road. Sheesh....I almost put $ on that game.
Washington doesn't have good kicker, that seems like a giant red flag in the post-season, and the defense....eh, I don't know. Detroit is so dangerous on offense that I don't know how big of a deal it is that Washington's best defensive play was to let Detroit stop themselves.
'cept for that Michigan kid at corner. That kid was a terror.
Speaking of, is now a good time for me to drag up and link Mdot21's posts from last year about what an overrated pos QB Jayden Daniels is?
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Speaking of, is now a good time for me to drag up and link Mdot21's posts from last year about what an overrated pos QB Jayden Daniels is?
Get 'er done
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Eagles win, much to the chagrin to most here. NFC East Championship Game
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Rams had 1st & 10 at PHI 21 with 1:25 left in the 4th.
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and the left guard abandoned the D tackle
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Speaking of, is now a good time for me to drag up and link Mdot21's posts from last year about what an overrated pos QB Jayden Daniels is?
yeah he stinks. Washington should trade him ASAP to Detroit for Jared Goff straight up.
:)
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Eagles win, much to the chagrin to most here. NFC East Championship Game
Unless Roger Goodell posts here
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Mark Andrews picked a bad time to be total ass
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Ravens should have won that game. Lamar was amazing, and his receivers were ass. but I'm sure next year will get to hear Steven A. Smith talk about how Lamar can't win big games
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I don't ever listen to Steven A
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Eagles-Washington. Gross. Come on, meteor.
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Better than the 'Boys and the Niners
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Unless Roger Goodell posts here
Is Goodell a a Philly Fan?
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Is Goodell a a Philly Fan?
I thought he's a London fan.
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Better than the 'Boys and the Niners
Negatory. That was the golden age of the NFL. This is shite.
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Better than the 'Boys and the Niners
Negatory. That was the golden age of the NFL. This is shite.
Nope '70s when the dredded Squeelers upended your more lamentable Yeehaw Heroes - at least they were sent packing
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yup, back when the Vikings were losing 4 SBs
would have been 5 if not for the cheatin boy's hail mary
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Ben Johnson taking the Bears job
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lucky guy
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Ben Johnson taking the Bears job
Sounds like he was busy last week. 🤔
disappointing to see him in the same division.
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Ben Johnson taking the Bears job
RIP
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Nope '70s when the dredded Squeelers upended your more lamentable Yeehaw Heroes - at least they were sent packing
Cowboys won 2 superbowls in the 70s. How many has Cleveland won, all time?
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Eagles-Washington. Gross. Come on, meteor.
Dallas now the longest drought in the East to make it to a NFC chip game.
Maybe Jerry should sell the team? soon as Dan Snyder sold the Redskins they went to an NFC chip.
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Dallas now the longest drought in the East to make it to a NFC chip game.
Maybe Jerry should sell the team? soon as Dan Snyder sold the Redskins they went to an NFC chip.
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no, Jerry should hire Deion first!
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no, Jerry should hire Deion first!
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Cowboys won 2 superbowls in the 70s. How many has Cleveland won, all time?
10 straight championship game appearances 46-55, winning 7 of them then adding an 8th in 64. I know far past but still titles.
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10 straight championship game appearances 46-55, winning 7 of them then adding an 8th in 64. I know far past but still titles.
We were talking about Superbowl victories, and nary a single one to be had by the hapless Browns.
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46-55???
I wasn't even alive then
Only Cincy is that old
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We were talking about Superbowl victories, and nary a single one to be had by the hapless Browns.
Football didnt start with the superbowl. Also if are eliminating old history 70s superbowls shouldn't count as it was 50 years ago. :)
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Football didnt start with the superbowl. Also if are eliminating old history 70s superbowls shouldn't count as it was 50 years ago. :)
Agree, but the topic of conversation was actually, specifically, Superbowl victories.
And your second point might also be valid, but it was Mr.N who specifically brought up the 70s-- a decade where the Cowboys won two Superbowls-- to illustrate the Cowboys' poor performance in Superbowls.
He chose... poorly.
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Cowboys won 2 superbowls in the 70s. How many has Cleveland won, all time?
The Lord chastizes those he loves,before the SB when the cowboys weren't plenty
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yeah he stinks. Washington should trade him ASAP to Detroit for Jared Goff straight up.
:)
Ha, I'd be happy to see him there. Lions have better weapons all around imo, a better line, and when healthy, a better defense. Washington just seems like one and a half steps away from being the Raiders, where careers go to die.
I've thought Goff looked really good when I got to watch him this year, which wasn't often.
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Dallas now the longest drought in the East to make it to a NFC chip game.
Maybe Jerry should sell the team? soon as Dan Snyder sold the Redskins they went to an NFC chip.
(https://i.imgur.com/2QqtBZb.jpeg)
"Suck, my leadership does."
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46-55???
I wasn't even alive then
Only Cincy is that old
Put it in the Golden Age of the NFL thread!
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"Suck, my leadership does."
It's so weird how we wouldn't translate good leadership in one industry to another, except when it comes to sports.
He's been a very successful oil man. How does that make you a good football owner? If you just use it as an investment, or a fun money purchase, like Steve Ballmer, and then stay hands off, sure. But he could not be less qualified to run a football team
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It's so weird how we wouldn't translate good leadership in one industry to another, except when it comes to sports.
He's been a very successful oil man. How does that make you a good football owner? If you just use it as an investment, or a fun money purchase, like Steve Ballmer, and then stay hands off, sure. But he could not be less qualified to run a football team
well Jerry was an extremely successful NFL owner early on. he helped make the NFL what it is today in terms of tv ratings, sponsorship brand deals, etc., etc..
his success as of late has waned obviously, and well he's point blank period a bad owner.
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well Jerry was an extremely successful NFL owner early on. he helped make the NFL what it is today in terms of tv ratings, sponsorship brand deals, etc., etc..
his success as of late has waned obviously, and well he's point blank period a bad owner.
Jimmy Johnson made him so. Not only was he a great coach, but he also initiated the Walker trade to the dummies up North.
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clearly hubris did the man in.
i don't begrudge him, it's his team & they print money regardless. that said insisting on running the football side himself & hiring puppet after puppet is a fools errand for anyone serious about winning.
it will be interesting to see whether his kids are smart enough to leave football decisions to the football people after jerry's gone b/c they've been getting an up close & personal seat viewing the consequences of meddling.
i figured he'd wise up at some point & he just never did, now he's so old the party's over he's never winning given their current circumstances.
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Jimmy Johnson made him so. Not only was he a great coach, but he also initiated the Walker trade to the dummies up North.
The dummies up north made Jimmy too
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I mean.....it was just last season the Cowboys had a good team as capable as anyone. McCarthy as HC and Dan Quinn as DC was working. All they really lacked was Dak's head not going up his own butt at the wrong time. Dak is Quinn Ewers. When he's on, he's on. When he's not, it gets needlessly difficult.
But about Dan Quinn, I think he was the main missing ingredient this year. The defensive personnel is fine, but they clearly missed him in the driver's seat of the D. And Dak being injured much of the season.
I don't think things have been exactly doomsday material for the Cowboys. It's not like they're the Raiders. They needed more reliability from the DC, and they needed a premier running back this year. That's not exactly light years away from excellence.
That said, I don't know why McCarthy left, but I suspect it was a mistake and a net negative.
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Dak is a problem.
Similar to Cousins
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well Jerry was an extremely successful NFL owner early on. he helped make the NFL what it is today in terms of tv ratings, sponsorship brand deals, etc., etc..
his success as of late has waned obviously, and well he's point blank period a bad owner.
He's a GREAT owner.
He's a terrible GM
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yer not a great owner if you refuse to fire the GM
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DA RAIDERZ hiring Pete Carroll. Jeem & Pete back together in the same division/conference again after all these years...
https://twitter.com/alexinsdorf99/status/1882811097469898873
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a couple of NCAA cheaters that ran to the NFL to avoid consequences
bully for them
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Best of luck today to NFL Referee (& former Nebraska QB), Clete Blakeman, as he refs the Chiefs vs Bills!
Grew up in Blair, NE - 220 miles from Arrowhead. good chance he's a Chiefs fan
(https://i.imgur.com/z5fElLm.jpeg)
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WTF is that guy???
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DA RAIDERZ hiring Pete Carroll. Jeem & Pete back together in the same division/conference again after all these years...
Lady Clairol(What Hooky called Pete)had it coming one of the few times I sided with Booger. Pretty Pete pitching a bitch because he got the score ran up on his boys like he did weekly to others
:'(
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They're coming back
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7 rushing TDs seems good
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If its Chiefs-Eagles I am not watching
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That Worthy "catch" could not have been less of a catch. Chiefs gonna Chiefs
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Allen clearly had it, but of course
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Allen clearly had it, but of course
That was bad. He had that.
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I think he had it as well but, it was close
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It's so weird how we wouldn't translate good leadership in one industry to another, except when it comes to sports.
He's been a very successful oil man. How does that make you a good football owner? If you just use it as an investment, or a fun money purchase, like Steve Ballmer, and then stay hands off, sure. But he could not be less qualified to run a football team
I ain't no Cowboys fan by any stretch of the imagination but I just don't understand how you can say he is completely unqualified to run a football team. First of all, he's a former FB player, having played for Arkansas (with Jimmy of course) so you have to give him credit there. Secondly, you can't just ignore the first ten or so years of his tenure. Sure, you can lay all the success on Jimmy Johnson, but Jimmy didn't exactly makes Aces in his last few jobs, in fact he sucked quite hard as I recall his time with the Dolphins. I would actually say that the Cowboys have had some really good to great teams over the last 30 or so years, but they just couldn't get it done in the playoffs. Whether it was just bad luck (Tony Romo's bad snap), or what, we can all agree that the Cowboys have had several championship-caliber teams as was pointed out just last year how good they were.
Contrast that to something like the Browns or the Lions (before the last few years) and compare records, playoff appearances, etc. That is the epitome of bad leadership/management/ownership.
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well, ya gotta blame someone and the billionaire owner is an EASY target
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If its Chiefs-Eagles I am not watching
I have the same inclination, and I also have bad news for the both of us.
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If its Chiefs-Eagles I am not watching
Same here.
With the Patriots dynasty it got to a point where I stopped watching the Super Bowl if they were in it because the NFL was playing out too predictably. Just as we get past the Patriots dynasty, along comes the Chiefs dynasty. Dynasties are a bore to watch because dynasties cast too much scripted predictability over the sport.
Between the three major sports, you would think the NFL would be the more open, less predictable league, but the NBA is more wide open than ever. As of late, the NBA has actively blocked the formation of certain attempted "super-teams." And with baseball, people might point to the Dodgers controlling the sport, but in the two seasons before they won last October's World Series, LA was bounced by division foes (Diamondbacks, Padres) whom they dominated during the regular season.
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BUT, I'll probably watch anyway, one, to root for the Eagles to lose, because I despise them (and this started before I was married to a Cowboys fan), and two, I like to see records set so I'm kinda rooting for Mahomie to get three in a row, since no one has ever done it.
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BUT, I'll probably watch anyway, one, to root for the Eagles to lose, because I despise them (and this started before I was married to a Cowboys fan), and two, I like to see records set so I'm kinda rooting for Mahomie to get three in a row, since no one has ever done it.
You don't need to do that. It's already in the bag.
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lagniappe......
THERE was the Washington I've been expecting, they just showed up a week late. Further cements my opinion that Detroit lost more than Washington won.
For someone who hates the Eagles, the crappy thing is Detroit very much could've beaten them, had they won last week.
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You don't need to do that. It's already in the bag.
I kinda hope so, because I don't wanna live in a world where Jalen Hurts gets a SB ring. That'd be right up there with Nick Foles having one.
According to the Almighty Webz, Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are the only QBs with 4 SB wins, Aikman and Mahomes are tied at 3. That means.....Tom Brady is insane....he nearly literally lapped the field.
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I won't be watching the Superbowl this year any more than I have the past 15 or 20. Some friends throw a party every year, I go to watch the commercials, drink some beer, play squares, and see folks I probably haven't seen since last year.
When I find out the score at the end, I'll be glad if the Eagles lose, of course. But that's the extent of my interest in this game.
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Well, if I want to keep the peace in this house, I'm certainly not going to be rooting against Taylor's boyfriend.
Hell hath no fury like a 12 year old Swiftie scorned.
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Oh yeah that's right, I have another reason to root for the Chefs.
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I'm rooting for a giant meteor.
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I'm rooting for a giant meteor.
Doesn't have to be that big
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Commercials. That’s my interest level.
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sing it with me! *puuut a bullet in my heeeead fa la la la la la la la la la.*
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That was bad. He had that.
I don't know. It was close. I wanted him to have it. I wanted the Bills to win. But for once I agree with the approach of the review team, which was whether it was conclusive. It wasn't.
The Chiefs just keep on being the Chiefs this year. They find ways to win in the crunch.
I'm cheering for the Eagles because (1) I'm not a huge fan of dynasties, and (2) my oldest goes to school in Philly, so there's a vibe to that (they could also care less about professional football--and only cares about college football to the extent that they know that I do).
I thought Detroit had a real shot this year, but you've gotta win the playoff games, and they didn't. As a Packers fan, I'm not supposed to like Detroit, but I could have lived with them making it/winning it. That's a hardluck team/fanbase.
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I was definitely pulling for the Lions. I might have actually watched the game if they were in it.
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I was definitely pulling for the Lions. I might have actually watched the game if they were in it.
No you wouldn't have.
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Pulling for the Lions as well. Never had my team in the SB before. 😔
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No you wouldn't have.
Yeah you're probably right.
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I was definitely pulling for the Lions. I might have actually watched the game if they were in it.
cannot have the Lions make the super bowl before the browns. Was rooting for them last year before the browns lost their playoff game.
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I started to post up about how I could easily root for KC because they've not been a good franchise for a long, long time and then I went and looked up their record over the last ~20-30 years and I realized they've actually been pretty decent for much of the time. I had forgotten that Schottenhemimer (no idea how to spell, too lazy to look up) was their coach for awhile and they had some good and great teams. Seems like they made the playoffs on a regular basis and were in contention multiple times over the last 20-30 years. Either way, I think I'll root for KC/Mahomes, if nothing else than somebody can have something up over Brady/Belicheck and the Patriots.
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what....
https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1884005330310554017
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I had a poster in my childhood room that was almost that exact same thing.
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I had a poster in my childhood room that was almost that exact same thing.
Shoulda swapped Atlanta and St. Louis.
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Cowboys were the weird one in the NFC East, but I wouldn't have it any other way. It's just so fun to hate NY, Washington, and the city of brotherly hate.
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Yeah, I wouldn't touch that either. Too much history and it is what it is.
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the NFC East deserve each other
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Lulz Viking fans.
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if it weren't for Herschel Walker, I wouldn't hate the Cowboys much A tall
but, here we are
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the NFC East deserve each other
I mean NY and Philly sports fans just suck in general- and Dallas is mostly annoying because of all the bandwagon fans who have never stepped foot in Texas let alone Dallas + Jerry Jones….but why the hate for Washington?
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Washington's sports teams might be the only tolerable thing about that city.
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Billy Kilmer, Sonny Jurgenson, and "Commanders"
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I mean NY and Philly sports fans just suck in general- and Dallas is mostly annoying because of all the bandwagon fans who have never stepped foot in Texas let alone Dallas + Jerry Jones….but why the hate for Washington?
Well Captitol Hill for one
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(https://i.imgur.com/AonDsIM.jpeg)
Atlanta in the "West," lulz.
Even when I was a kid, I remember thinking it was weird the Saints were in a division with the 49ers. I couldn't have even told you why. I guess I would've thought the same thing about the Rams in LA, but, nobody talked about them like they did the Niners and I probably didn't even know about them.
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Is "Dirty Birds" some kind of evolutionary imperative developed by millennia of natural selection? Everywhere I've traveled, everyone I meet, nearly everybody hates the 1) Eagles 2) Falcons 3) Seahawks and calls them the Dirty Birds.
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I am indifferent to the Falcons and Seahawks.
But I maintain a deep, seething hatred for the dirty birds located in the city of brotherly hate.
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siriani is a doosh & the legion of boom was obnoxiously arrogant. the falcons have never been good enough to be hated. i was under the impression no one cared about them including the ppl in ga.
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I've only ever heard the Falcons called the Dirty Birds. They even made it their dance when they had their Super Bowl run with Jamaal Anderson
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I am indifferent to the Falcons and Seahawks.
But I maintain a deep, seething hatred for the dirty birds located in the city of brotherly hate.
To clarify, I didn't mean people hate all of them. They usually hate one of them, depending on their fandom, and refer to them as the Dirty Birds in the process. Your hatred of the Eagles and indifference towards the Falcons/Seahawks is a routine example.
It's odd for me....I'm not at all a Saints fan, that part of Louisiana culture never rubbed off on me.....yet I inherited Saints fans' hatred of the Falcons. I despise the Falcons (Dirty Birds) despite the fact I don't care about the Saints. Go figure.
Wife hates the Eagles for obvious reasons and calls them the Dirty Birds. I currently hate the Eagles, but that's because I hated several of their players in college, including the a-hole DT from UGA who performed a literal WWF suplex on Jayden Daniels in the 2022 SECCG. And also because Hurts is the okayest QB ever to be hailed as great, and I want people to see him for what he is. But, take all that away someday, and I'll go back to not caring about the Eagles.
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Quote from: utee94 on January 29, 2025, 11:09:40 AM (https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/2024-nfl-thread/msg666496/#msg666496)
I am indifferent to the Falcons and Seahawks.
But I maintain a deep, seething hatred for the dirty birds located in the city of brotherly hate.
Your hatred of the Eagles and indifference towards the Falcons/Seahawks is a routine example.
It's odd for me....I'm not at all a Saints fan, that part of Louisiana culture never rubbed off on me.....yet I inherited Saints fans' hatred of the Falcons. I despise the Falcons (Dirty Birds) despite the fact I don't care about the Saints. Go figure.
You're all welcome to despise the Squeelers and the knuckle dragging, pierogi munching ebola chimps that cheer them on.😎
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the only dirty birds I know live in Hotlanta
but, I don't like the Eagles because their fans booed santa
don't like the seahawks because of Pete the cheat
I did like the seahawks back in the day of Jim Zorn and Steve Largent
disliked the Squeelers since the 70s
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Were the Saints ever in a division with the Cowboys? Seems like when I was young there was a lot of....maybe not hatred, but mild distaste, for Dallas.
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Don't think so. The Chiefs were an AFL team. Dallas was always NFL. After the merger, AFC/NFC.
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I don't remember when you were young, but my impression is that for people not from Texas, Dallas was always pretty easy to dislike, claiming to be America's Team and all. Petered out a bit in the mid 80s when the Cowboys had a down stretch, but came back with a vengeance in the early 90s.
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I don't remember when you were young, but my impression is that for people not from Texas, Dallas was always pretty easy to dislike, claiming to be America's Team and all. Petered out a bit in the mid 80s when the Cowboys had a down stretch, but came back with a vengeance in the early 90s.
Were the Saints ever in a division with the Cowboys? Seems like when I was young there was a lot of....maybe not hatred, but mild distaste, for Dallas.
Yeah I can't think of anything specific for Saints fans to dislike Dallas, not even any history that I can recall of a series of hotly contested playoff games, like the Cowboys and Niners had, or Superbowls, like the Cowboys and Steelers had.
Sounds more to me like just general dislike of the Cowboys that can be found anywhere.
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Santa deserved it.
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What'd ya go and do that for we're gonna hear about a 1 championship dynasty hype from Mdirt shortly,bastage. Not sure if those numbers are entirely accurate might wanna stay off of MGOBOARD 🥳
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gotta be accurate - got it from Facebook
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Nebraska would have been higher if NFL teams weren't so scared of running the option.
But seriously, Michigan being both an elite program, and running a pro style offense for almost the duration of that period, give or take the RichRod era, and the Dennis Franklin/Rick Leach years, I think helps
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https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/slideshows/10-colleges-that-have-produced-most-active-nfl-players?slide=23
OK Bug Eater this from US News and World Report Website from this past December
Here are the 20 colleges that had the most former players listed as active on an NFL roster as of Dec. 2, 2024, according to ESPN.
Colleges with the most NFL players
University of Alabama: 62
The Ohio State University—Columbus: 50
University of Georgia: 46
Louisiana State University—Baton Rouge: 44
University of Notre Dame (IN): 41
University of Michigan—Ann Arbor: 37
University of Texas at Austin: 36
University of Oklahoma: 35
University of Florida: 32
The Pennsylvania State University—University Park: 31
University of Washington: 31
University of Oregon: 29
Clemson University (SC): 28
University of Iowa: 28
University of Tennessee—Knoxville: 28
Texas A&M University: 25
University of California—Los Angeles: 25
University of Mississippi: 25
University of Wisconsin—Madison: 25
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign: 24
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Corngrats
Try to get to the super bowl
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Corngrats
Try to get to the super bowl
The only reason I watch it because it's the last game of the season and shouldn't be poking it's ass past Groundhog Day.
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it's a great excuse to splurge on high quality beer
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Be nice if they had a high quality half time show for once
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halftime at a football game is for food, drink, and bathroom breaks.
watching some young people trying to earn scholarship $$$ by tossing footballs or some such is more entertaining than any musical act including a marching band
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Myles Garrett demands a trade.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1886444952579613077
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Sure let the lions give us the same package we gave up for Deshaun
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Odd situation with Cooper Kupp. Initially when my wife saw the news she thought he was asking for a trade, but now he's said he doesn't agree with the trade.
I'm guessing this is simply a case where he's too expensive at this point in his career for the Rams to keep him? Basically trying to move him to free up salary cap?
Kupp may disagree with the decision, but I'm guessing he's not offering to restructure his contract to play for what they're paying Puka :57:
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Great lady. Terrible owner.
hopefully the kids will finally sell the team and take their millions.
Virginia McCaskey: Chicago Bears owner dies at 102 (https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/02/06/virginia-mccaskey-chicago-bears-owner-dies/)
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Lamar Jackson got absolutely robbed of the MVP award. Lamar’s completion % was 3 points higher than Josh Allen, he averaged 1.1+ more yards per attempt than Josh Allen, he threw for roughly 400 more yards than Josh Allen, and oh yeah he threw for 14 more touchdown passes while throwing for 2 less interceptions than Josh Allen. Oh yeah he also ran for 915 yards and averaged 6.6 yards per carry. Roughly 400 yards more than Josh Allen did and 1.5 yards more per carry than Josh Allen did.
Lol. Lamar just had one of the most statistically insane seasons a QB has ever had and he just got screwed over in the MVP voting.
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it happens, because it's a popularity contest
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Also voter fatigue. It would feel weird for Lamar to have 3 and Allen to have none I guess. But Lamar won it last year, and was better this year.
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Also voter fatigue. It would feel weird for Lamar to have 3 and Allen to have none I guess. But Lamar won it last year, and was better this year.
seems to me like they just wanted to throw Josh Allen- who is a great player in his own right- a bone.
Lamar 1000000% should have won. To throw for 4,100+ yards and 41 TD's vs only 4 INT's is some peak Brady/Rodgers best years type shit numbers- and oh yeah the guy also ran for 900+ yards at 6.6 yards per clip. That is just insanity level season he had and he got straight up jobbed.
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seems to me like they just wanted to throw Josh Allen- who is a great player in his own right- a bone.
Lamar 1000000% should have won. To throw for 4,100+ yards and 41 TD's vs only 4 INT's is some peak Brady/Rodgers best years type shit numbers- and oh yeah the guy also ran for 900+ yards at 6.6 yards per clip. That is just insanity level season he had and he got straight up jobbed.
I mean Jim Miller voted Lamar FOURTH apparently. Thats reason to lose your vote. I didnt know Jim Miller was still alive
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I mean Jim Miller voted Lamar FOURTH apparently. Thats reason to lose your vote. I didnt know Jim Miller was still alive
That’s just ridiculous. 100% he should lose his vote.
Between that MVP highway robbery, the Lions blowing the playoffs, the push for 18 games, all this god damn stupid overseas games, and this god awful Super Bowl matchup that I refuse to watch- the NFL is starting to lose me. Didn’t think it could ever happen. It is. Great job Roger.
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As college football loses me, the NFL gains me. But not today. NFW.
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The Super Bowl is only barely about football anyway
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not today
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it's a great excuse to splurge on high quality beer
at least I'm doing that
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I hope it's a good game for everyone interested. The event is a great microcosm of our society. Only rich people can afford to attend, despite their apathy. The ads take center stage. And people will focus on who to blame for a loss more than who to credit for a win. Oh, and lots of Taylor Swift.
Pass.
At least college football is in its relative infancy when it comes to being a fat, sloppy whore for the money and entertainment, competition be damned. The NFL has been "perfecting" it for decades now.
But again, if you're into it, enjoy.
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Great lady. Terrible owner.
hopefully the kids will finally sell the team and take their millions.
Virginia McCaskey: Chicago Bears owner dies at 102 (https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/02/06/virginia-mccaskey-chicago-bears-owner-dies/)
thanx it's behind a pay wall so I'll take your word for it.
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Billions, not millions.
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Oh, and lots of Taylor Swift.
Can always hope for a lightning strike or at least wardrobe malfunction
Pass.
But again, if you're into it, enjoy.
That's a tall order just hoping it goes down to the last tick. Even contemplating cannabis-infused beverages as a social lubricant for my viewing pleasure. Oops all out guess it's the old standbys Elliot Ness Amber Lager or Yuengling
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Great lady. Terrible owner.
hopefully the kids will finally sell the team and take their millions.
Virginia McCaskey: Chicago Bears owner dies at 102 (https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/02/06/virginia-mccaskey-chicago-bears-owner-dies/)
According to wiki
She married Ed McCaskey in 1943,they had 11 children and 21 grandchildren, 40 great-grandchildren, and 4 great-great-grandchildren :o . Think there'll be any scrambling for a stake in the estate?
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Go PhillyDawgs!
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All Beagles so far.
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aint this half time great
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aint this half time great
It is so bad I had to turn it off. Hurts my ears. Just bad noise.
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Where are the conspiracy theorists now?
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It is so bad I had to turn it off. Hurts my ears. Just bad noise.
You guys might not be the target audience.
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You guys might not be the target audience.
There is a target audience? I thought there was an audience.
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You guys might not be the target audience.
last time I checked the audience was in excess of 120 million
Im not really sure this half time entertainment was well received by the majority of them.
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https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1888751389045616653
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There is a target audience? I thought there was an audience.
last time I checked the audience was in excess of 120 million
Im not really sure this half time entertainment was well received by the majority of them.
The target audience is the future. We're all old fogies.
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A complete beat down. Love to see it.
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A complete beat down. Love to see it.
Mahomes was awful, and the KC OL looked like they were an FCS team in a payday game vs. Georgia
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Eagles followed curfew, Chiefs partied hard?
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re: K Lamar, the dance, choreography was fine, what was terrible was the sound mixing.
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Billions, not millions.
There's 11 kids and 2 nephews with a stake. Millions (many of them).
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As college football loses me, the NFL gains me. But not today. NFW.
As college football loses me, spending my time being active instead of watching TV gains me. It's quite refreshing actually.
Wow what a beat-down that game was. I only watched through the halftime show, then I turned on Game of Thrones, the Red Wedding episode, which actually wasn't nearly as bloody as what happened to the Chiefs last night.
Oh, and both of my kids-- 17yo and 15yo-- loved the halftime show. As did all of their friends.
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But I did wake up this morning to find that former Texas Longhorn Xavier Worthy had a good second half. Interestingly enough, his first TD last night, was the first TD ever scored by a Longhorn in the Superbowl.
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https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1888751389045616653
Mahomes was awful, and the KC OL looked like they were an FCS team in a payday game vs. Georgia
looked like the Husker O-line
plenty of pressure rushing 4
Mahomie never had a chance
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The target audience is the future. We're all old fogies.
the target audience is the entire country…not any specific demographic. it’s the Super Bowl- they try to appeal to widest audience possible.
I thought that half-time show sucked, and this is coming from someone who actually likes Kendrick Lamar’s music. Kendrick isn’t exactly a young’n either he’s almost 40 years old- so it’s not like he’s one of these new young and upcoming rappers they are trying to appeal to the young crowd with. Kendrick has been around for 15+ years- he’s just now started to hit in a big way and it’s all on the back of going after Drake relentlessly- and Drake is a guy who is not only the biggest hip-hop artist in the entire world but one of the biggest artists in the world period- and Drake has been that for over a decade.
And it’s all a little wild considering Drake is the guy who really put Kendrick Lamar on the map and into the spotlight by bringing him on his tour and putting him on his albums. If not for Drake no one would know who Kendrick Lamar is- and if not for Drake, Kendrick wouldn’t have just had his first #1 song ever and win a bunch of Grammy awards and perform at the Super Bowl.
No one there knew any of the songs except for the last one- not like us- which is Kendrick’s first #1 song ever and the entire song is just him trashing Drake and calling Drake a pedophile. I honestly think that song sucks and only reason it got big is because he went after the king and took him down. Nothing America loves more than trashing the guy at the top. It’s a tale as old as time. Same reason everyone hates the Chiefs/Mahomes or hated Brady- we get sick of seeing the same guy always win. We love nothing more than to tear down our idols. It’s the American way.
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https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball/status/1888977470180749659 (https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball/status/1888977470180749659)
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That game was a giant wet fart.
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That game was a giant wet fart.
glad I didn’t watch, I only saw the half time show and that was because as said previously I like Kendrick’s music.
saw the highlights and Mahomes was under siege, Eagles built the gnarliest DL in the league. I love Gibbs but part of me feels like Lions should’ve just stayed put and drafted Jalen Carter. Oh well. Rectify that mistake and go get Myles Garrett. Pair him with a healthy Hutch- my god the pressure they’d put on QBs would be a sight to behold. Can’t really cover WRs anymore or it’s a flag- only way to disrupt the passing game now is to make the QB uncomfortable.
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I said two years ago when these two teams met and the Eagles were expected to win that God would not allow the NFL's only team with no Tigers to win a Superbowl. Fast-forward to now, and the Chiefs are the only team with no Tigers. Looks like God hasn't changed his mind.
Chiefs looked like they might could use one or both of LSU's stud OTs. Or somebody's stud guard, or center, or hell, some barbed wire on the ground, or really anything that might slow down a D-lineman.
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There is a target audience? I thought there was an audience.
Young fogies.
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https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1888751389045616653
https://twitter.com/SamuelAdams_12/status/1888785635806224824
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https://twitter.com/FFB_Fanatics/status/1888794131373105442
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As someone who did not watch the Super Bowl, or ever cheer for the Eagles (or I assume the Hawkeyes outside when they played Ohio State) your opinion is ignored
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Denver Broncos cornerback Riley Moss - Former Hawkeye (white)
New York Giants - Jason Sehorn cornerback - USC (white)
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I never thought about it, but it does seem like cornerback is the defensive position where you very rarely see white guys. White LBs are relatively common, D-linemen are probably less common but they're certainly out there, safeties maybe even less common, but they're still around. Off the top of my head, I couldn't have named any cornerbacks, college or pro.
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very rare
ask Jimmy the Greek
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Oh geez
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well, Jimmy is dead so, ........
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Eagles are going to be really good for awhile. And it's so annoying. Giants were absolutely fucking retarded to give Daniel fucking Jones $180 million and let Saquon Barkley walk for nothing. If I am the owner of the Giants I am firing everyone right now and there is zero shot in hell I'd ever let someone as fucking awesome as Barkley ever leave the team.
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25 carries, 57 yards, 2.3 avg, 0 TDs, Long 10
didn't need him vs the Chefs
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25 carries, 57 yards, 2.3 avg, 0 TDs, Long 10
didn't need him vs the Chefs
dude ran for 2,005 yards in 16 games....
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Jets moving on from Aaron Rodgers...
https://twitter.com/NFLHateMemes/status/1888666618063990947
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dude ran for 2,005 yards in 16 games....
Adrian Peterson numbers
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25 carries, 57 yards, 2.3 avg, 0 TDs, Long 10
didn't need him vs the Chefs
Great moogely-googley, I'm sure the Chiefs prioritized him freeing others up
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hah, some of my buddies that root for the Chiefs told me before the game....
don't be surprised when Barkley doesn't get 100 yards
I replied, don't be surprised when the eagles put up 40
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I replied, don't be surprised when the eagles put up 40
I didn't see it coming, but when I saw how it was happening, I wasn't surprised that the Chiefs couldn't turn things around.
Utter domination on the lines is something I'm more accustomed to in college than the NFL, but occasionally it happens. Only other SB I recall that in was the Seahawks over Denver for the 2013 season. Mahomie, like Peyton back then, never had a chance to try to get a play going. Their lines were just utterly whipped forwards and backwards.
Mostly backwards.
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Utter domination on the lines is something I'm more accustomed to in college than the NFL, but occasionally it happens. Only other SB I recall that in was the Seahawks over Denver for the 2013 season. Mahomie, like Peyton back then, never had a chance to try to get a play going. Their lines were just utterly whipped forwards and backwards.
That's what I said. It looked like Georgia vs. a buy opponent.
The difference between those two Super Bowls, is Mahomes is great at extending plays and still finding guys downfield. Manning was never great at that, and that Denver team was post neck surgery. Mahomes frequently made a guy miss, but it was just wave after wave, even when they didn't blitz.
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when it was 10-0, I said to no one listening at the party
gonna be 41-0
I was wrong, as usual
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https://twitter.com/philly__nation/status/1888752661597671925?s=46&t=WlnuR3MuiobA8aA_izh4EQ
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Eagles are going to be really good for awhile. And it's so annoying. Giants were absolutely fucking retarded to give Daniel fucking Jones $180 million and let Saquon Barkley walk for nothing. If I am the owner of the Giants I am firing everyone right now and there is zero shot in hell I'd ever let someone as fucking awesome as Barkley ever leave the team.
I generally agree, BUT he wasn't awesome with the Giants before leaving. 3.9 ypc and a long of 36 yards. You can blame the blocking and/or play-calling, etc, and you'd be right, but if he was sucking with them, what's the big tragedy?
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The way the NFL is now, I think the running game has clearly made a comeback. but in the sense that you can't be a great team without a great running back, but a great running back is wasted on a bad team. He's not going to elevate them
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I generally agree, BUT he wasn't awesome with the Giants before leaving. 3.9 ypc and a long of 36 yards. You can blame the blocking and/or play-calling, etc, and you'd be right, but if he was sucking with them, what's the big tragedy?
Saquon was an awesome player for the Giants his first two years in the leauge, got injured in his 3rd and was slow to bounce back in his 4th and dealt with injury but his 5th year he was back to being awesome. No doubt he had a down year to his standards his 6th and final year in New York but that entire team absolutely fucking sucked. Guy literally had no o-line, no QB, no play-makers out wide to help him out. Saquon wasn't the problem. Everyone else was. That's when it should've been a hint to get rid of everyone else and build around Saquon.
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I didn't see it coming, but when I saw how it was happening, I wasn't surprised that the Chiefs couldn't turn things around.
Utter domination on the lines is something I'm more accustomed to in college than the NFL, but occasionally it happens. Only other SB I recall that in was the Seahawks over Denver for the 2013 season. Mahomie, like Peyton back then, never had a chance to try to get a play going. Their lines were just utterly whipped forwards and backwards.
Mostly backwards.
2020 Bucs-Chiefs Super Bowl was similar albeit a little bit different because they did blitz a bit- but Mahomie was running for his life that game and the Chiefs OL that game was basically all backups and scrubs cause their entire starting OL was basically injured.
2007 Patriots-Giants Super Bowl was similar as well. Giants DL with Strahan, Tuck, and Osi obliterated the Patriots OL, completely shut down their run game and were destroying Brady all game long basically without having to blitz at all.
Teams that have redunkulous front 7's with depth usually win a lot of games. Which is why I'm praying Lions do whatever it takes to get Myles Garrett to pair him with Aidan Hutchinson. Maybe draft or sign a DT to pair with Alim McNeil as well bring back Marcus Davenport who is always fucking injured on an extremely cheap prove it one year deal.
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The way the NFL is now, I think the running game has clearly made a comeback. but in the sense that you can't be a great team without a great running back, but a great running back is wasted on a bad team. He's not going to elevate them
well I think that was basically always the way it went. a great RB on a team with shitty coaches, shitty QB's, OL's, and defenses isn't going anywhere except maybe the playoffs every now and again and then bounced very quickly. see: most of Walter Payton's career before he got Mike Ditka and an all-time defenses and well Barry Sanders' entire career. And it literally doesn't get any better than either of those guys at RB.
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well I think that was basically always the way it went. a great RB on a team with shitty coaches, shitty QB's, OL's, and defenses isn't going anywhere except maybe the playoffs every now and again and then bounced very quickly. see: most of Walter Payton's career before he got Mike Ditka and an all-time defenses and well Barry Sanders' entire career. And it literally doesn't get any better than either of those guys at RB.
But Barry Sanders was still great on a bad team. I think thats almost impossible now
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Almost. JT bucks the trend in Indy.
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25 carries, 57 yards, 2.3 avg, 0 TDs, Long 10
didn't need him vs the Chefs
This is saquon. 2yds, 5yds, -3yds, 70yds, 3yds, -5yds, 1yd, 50yds. Makes almost all his yards on big runs, rest of the time nothing.
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so, he just needed 3 or 4 more carries to get to 120 yards and up his average and add a TD?
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1889374704290459653
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If it said "Bears Still Suck" it would have actually been funny.
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yup, the cowboys are just sad
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True story
Could be worse though. Could be the Vikings.
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true
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True story
Could be worse though. Could be the Vikings.
or the Browns.....they pretty much screwed themselves for the next decade with that DeShaun Watson trade.
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Chiefs Fire Their Refs | Babylon Bee (https://babylonbee.com/news/chiefs-fire-their-refs)
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Dan Marino was incredible man. Even with no achilles and all the knee injuries at his old age he could just rip it. Greatest arm the league has ever seen and will ever see. Young Peyton was actually light on his feet and could move around a little bit.
https://twitter.com/FBGreatMoments/status/1890023331031662686
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If it said "Bears Still Suck" it would have actually been funny.
Save that for Lake Michigan
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or the BrownsHaslem's.....they pretty much screwed themselves the Franchise/City for the next decade with that DeShaun Watson trade.
FIFY
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1890108717246677344
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Saquon was an awesome player for the Giants his first two years in the leauge, got injured in his 3rd and was slow to bounce back in his 4th and dealt with injury but his 5th year he was back to being awesome. No doubt he had a down year to his standards his 6th and final year in New York but that entire team absolutely fucking sucked. Guy literally had no o-line, no QB, no play-makers out wide to help him out. Saquon wasn't the problem. Everyone else was. That's when it should've been a hint to get rid of everyone else and build around Saquon.
I agree with this, and dumping a RB after his age 26 season is foolish. BUT, my point is that any RB could have averaged 3.9 ypc, so if you're going to squander your Saquon, why bother having him and paying him?
Basically what I'm saying is that NYG is stupid and had a book of knowledge they were using as a paper weight. If you're not going to open the book, why bother having it?
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I agree with this, and dumping a RB after his age 26 season is foolish. BUT, my point is that any RB could have averaged 3.9 ypc, so if you're going to squander your Saquon, why bother having him and paying him?
Basically what I'm saying is that NYG is stupid and had a book of knowledge they were using as a paper weight. If you're not going to open the book, why bother having it?
To me it's simple. Football is a team sport. Paying stars outlandish money--even legit stars--when you're not assembling a competent team around them, is a waste.
Saquon is great. But he wasn't going to bring a Lombardi Trophy to the Giants this year with the team around him. He probably wasn't going to bring a wild card playoff berth to the Giants this year with the team around him.
As great as he is, why waste the kind of money he's worth if you're going to get no return on it for your organization?
Where the Giants screwed up was not getting rid of him in a trade or some other manner a season or two prior to letting him walk in which they'd get something for letting him go. But there STILL was no point in keeping him.
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Shame one of the extra pieces is a quarterback.
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slugsrbad, always stirrin the pot ;)
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Shame one of the extra pieces is a quarterback.
I hear Aaron Rodgers is available.
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Booooo. Myles coming to Detroit to link up with Hutch and wreak havoc upon the league.
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Myles Garrett is from Arlington, TX. I'd say it's time for him to come back and play for his hometown team. :)
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I'd guess the Vikings have more cap room than the Lions and Cowgirls put together
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I'd guess the Vikings have more cap room than the Lions and Cowgirls put together
not once you guys pay the great Sam Darnold a truck load. do it, hes worth it.
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Myles Garrett is from Arlington, TX. I'd say it's time for him to come back and play for his hometown team. :)
there are rumblings about Micah not being happy in Dallas. wonder if they would trade Garrett for Micah straight up.
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there are rumblings about Micah not being happy in Dallas. wonder if they would trade Garrett for Micah straight up.
No, but I want BOTH. :)
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No, but I want BOTH. :)
that wouldn’t even be fair. as long as Dak stayed healthy- with both those guys coming off the edge not sure even Jerry could screw that team up. that’s how you get to an NFC chip. get Myles Garrett to pair with Micah and get lucky in the draft and snag Will Johnson at CB if he falls just outside the top 10- Dallas would be cooking with grease.
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that wouldn’t even be fair. as long as Dak stayed healthy- with both those guys coming off the edge not sure even Jerry could screw that team up. that’s how you get to an NFC chip. get Myles Garrett to pair with Micah and get lucky in the draft and snag Will Johnson at CB if he falls just outside the top 10- Dallas would be cooking with grease.
It's a lovely dream of course. But Jerry usually ensures that Dallas fans can't have nice things.
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not once you guys pay the great Sam Darnold a truck load. do it, hes worth it.
even Sam's agent knows he's not worth much after his last 2 games
of course if Sam could get Cousins' agent..........
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It's a lovely dream of course. But Jerry usually ensures that Dallas fans can't have nice things.
Jerry would pay for both, but as long as Dak is QB, you're not gonna have nice things
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Myles is going nowhere. Trading Myles, even after the June 1st date will absolutely destroy the Browns Salary cap. They would be force to cut most of their high paid players who no longer have guarantees in their contracts and gut the team to make it under the cap.
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Myles is going nowhere. Trading Myles, even after the June 1st date will absolutely destroy the Browns Salary cap. They would be force to cut most of their high paid players who no longer have guarantees in their contracts and gut the team to make it under the cap.
Bitonio the OL already said he's probably retiring if they trade Garrett, and Denzel Ward has said he's going to have to reevaluate his future with the team if they move on from Garrett.
If Garrett really wants out, couldn't he restructure his contract with the Browns if they agree to trade him?
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who is better by the way? Micah or Garrett? I think Garrett is probably the better all-around player because he's a much better edge setter/run defender- but not sure there is a better pure explosive pass rusher in the entire game than Micah. that guy he's freaky athletic for his size- like faster than a lot of WR's and RB's.
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Bitonio the OL already said he's probably retiring if they trade Garrett, and Denzel Ward has said he's going to have to reevaluate his future with the team if they move on from Garrett.
If Garrett really wants out, couldn't he restructure his contract with the Browns if they agree to trade him?
No because most his pay is bonus money that has already been paid out and is now being prorated across the life of his contract. The second they trade him all the money that is being prorated becomes dead money to the Browns in the current year. You can't trade money you already paid out. I think they is like 66m of dead money is they trade him. It is why they can't cut Watson, there is 144m in dead money. They browns have been doing a good job of kicking the can down the road with the cap, but at some point you are going to pay the piper particularly when you totally miss on a large contract.
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THIS DAY IN HISTORY:
First Issue of The New Yorker Is Published (1925)
The New Yorker is an American magazine known for its sophisticated tone, liberal political perspective, varied literary fare, and witty single-panel cartoons. It was founded by journalist Harold Ross, who aimed to create a sophisticated, metropolitan magazine—in contrast to publications such as Life, which he saw as unrefined. Now one of the most respected publications in the US, The New Yorker is recognized for its strict style and high-quality content.
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THIS DAY IN HISTORY:
First Issue of The New Yorker Is Published (1925)
The New Yorker is an American magazine known for its sophisticated tone, liberal political perspective, varied literary fare, and witty single-panel cartoons. It was founded by journalist Harold Ross, who aimed to create a sophisticated, metropolitan magazine—in contrast to publications such as Life, which he saw as unrefined. Now one of the most respected publications in the US, The New Yorker is recognized for its strict style and high-quality content.
Think you wanted this in the weird history thread
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I don't always get what I want
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I don't always get what I want
But do you sometimes get what you need
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Brad Holmes in his press conference yesterday basically said elite pass rushers are way too pricey for their value. So I'd be shocked if either Garrett or Parsons is on Detroit next year. And if that's the price, I assume the Jets will land them
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https://twitter.com/gmengalaxy/status/1894543408061976838
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Brad Holmes in his press conference yesterday basically said elite pass rushers are way too pricey for their value. So I'd be shocked if either Garrett or Parsons is on Detroit next year. And if that's the price, I assume the Jets will land them
don't love that. Holmes has the team to go all-in and win it all right now. You're picking at #28. The odds of you getting a player as elite as Garrett or Parsons at that pick is slim and none. I don't understand teams that are close that won't just go all-in to win now. We need a Super Bowl in the next 1-2 years.
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I believe Briningstool was an MSU legacy who gave MSU a courtesy visit, and a courtesy top 5. I don't recall hearing from him since then
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https://twitter.com/gmengalaxy/status/1897070008603394338
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apparently Myles Garrett just signed the biggest non-QB contract in NFL history.
So I guess he threw a bitch fit about demanding a trade and wanting to be on a winner just to get a bag.
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apparently Myles Garrett just signed the biggest non-QB contract in NFL history.
So I guess he threw a bitch fit about demanding a trade and wanting to be on a winner just to get a bag.
He was being advised by labrons group they didn't understand unlike basketball myles had no leverage. The browns couldn't trade him without destroying their salary cap and myles was locked in for 2 more years. It was play out your contract were you would only be getting about 2m a year since you were already given the rest of your salary as various bonuses, sit out/retire or sign a massive new contract.
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DK Metcalf to Pittsburgh for just a 2nd round pick
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DK Metcalf to Pittsburgh for just a 2nd round pick
that's a steal.
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that's a steal.
Is it though?
I may be looking through things from the wrong prism (fantasy football), but I've had shares of DK Metcalf on fantasy teams a LOT over the years, and it seems that DK Metcalf--at least for fantasy--is a chronic under-producer. He's only had one year where he's been a top-10 WR in fantasy, and that was 2020 so it's old news at this point.
I mean, the guy is flat out jacked. I know you tend to fetishize those players who look like absolute gods, and DK definitely fits that mold.
But my experience with what I've seen from fantasy football is that DK has never actually lived up to, in numbers and performance, the massive potential that someone with his insane physical stature and ability is capable of. He never seemed to separate from Tyler Lockett, and this past year, not from JSN either.
It seems like every year is primed for his breakout year... ESPECIALLY this past year, when they brought in a non-conservative offensive coordinator from UDub who we were all expecting to throw the ball a ton. I thought it was FINALLY going to be DK's year, drafted him, and he was "ok". Just shy of 1K yards, decent numbers, but never the DK Metcalf he was expected to be. He finished WR32 in fantasy. JSN finished WR9 and clearly became "the guy" in that offense.
Some might claim it's due to the quality of the QB, but he's been through a few of them and has still just been an "ok" producer. But nobody quite knows who the hell will be throwing to him in Pittsburgh, so it's not like he's getting traded to a team that finally has "the guy" behind center that's going to unleash the beast.
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Is it though?
DK Metcalf--at least for fantasy--is a chronic under-producer. He's only had one year where he's been a top-10 WR in fantasy, and that was 2020 so it's old news at this point.
how many of the many, many dudes that out performed DK in fantasy were 2nd round picks?
What's the chances of that particular 2nd round pick outperforming DK??
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how many of the many, many dudes that out performed DK in fantasy were 2nd round picks?
What's the chances of that particular 2nd round pick outperforming DK??
On the other hand, they gave up that 2nd rounder for a 27 year old who they now reportedly signed to a 5-year, $150M extension. 27 isn't exactly falling off the cliff for a WR (that's usually around 30-31) so it's not like it's a terrible idea, but it's a lot of money...
A 2nd rounder on a rookie contract is more likely to make around $10M over 4 years.
But I guess I do see your point. DK Metcalf is a solid and stable WR who has produced every year. Maybe he's not producing at the level that we all projected his potential to be, but he's no slouch... And looking at the 2nd(+) round WRs over the last several drafts, there are some names that I might take over DK Metcalf at $10M over 4 years compared to $150M over 5 years... There are also names that haven't produced even close to the consistent if not stellar numbers he's produced year-in year-out.
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Fields to the Jets, and Darnold to the Seahawks.
Please, please, please, please, Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers. You might get a full on Major League sideline fight between him Metcalf and Pickens
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Fields to the Jets, and Darnold to the Seahawks.
Please, please, please, please, Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers. You might get a full on Major League sideline fight between him Metcalf and Pickens
Pickens might be the most asshat WR I've ever seen. I imagine he's not going to be happy with Metcalf now getting most of the targets- and would LOVE to see that drama ensue of Rodgers bitching him out on the field for a bad route or poor effort and Pickens trying to fight him.
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https://twitter.com/aaroncabrera_/status/1898895084218642840
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Pickens might be the most asshat WR I've ever seen. I imagine he's not going to be happy with Metcalf now getting most of the targets- and would LOVE to see that drama ensue of Rodgers bitching him out on the field for a bad route or poor effort and Pickens trying to fight him.
Steelers did a great job of paying their QB, and paying their defense and OL, and just continuously hitting on RB/WR draft picks, and then letting them walk. Willie Parker, Rashard Mendenhall, LeVeon Bell at RB. Plexico Burress, Santonio Holmes, Emmanuel Sanders, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, JuJu Smith-Schuster at WR. Burress was the only one who did shit after leaving. That saves you a lot of money, but is contingent on continuing to hit on skill position player regularly, which they did.
Giving up capital for a skill position player is a shift
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https://twitter.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1899151217869103346
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Only on a loser organization like the Giants is the long snapper your team captain:
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And nothing says we're back! like resigning your punter for $10M:
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New York. One of the few teams Dallas can make fun of.
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New York. One of the few teams Dallas can make fun of.
You mean the team that has two Lombardi trophies since the last time Dallas even appeared in the game?
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You mean the team that has two Lombardi trophies since the last time Dallas even appeared in the game?
No I mean the team that's 1-17 against the Cowboys over the past 9 years and finished 3-14 in 2024.
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Much like the Bears, it's time for new ownership in NY (both teams).
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Much like the Bears, it's time for new ownership in NY (both teams).
Oh yeah, sign me up for some of that new ownership in Dallas too, please!
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You mean the team that has two Lombardi trophies since the last time Dallas even appeared in the game?
No I mean the team that's 1-17 against the Cowboys over the past 9 years and finished 3-14 in 2024.
I'd take the hardware,with the exception of the BROWNS prolly everyone did that. What folks looks at after the season is not who bounced the Bums
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Ed Zachery, if it weren't for a few chucks of hardware, the Cowboys would have nothing but braggin rights over some hapless Giants teams
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LMGDMFSBAO.
As opposed to the Vikings who have nothing 'tall.
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as we agreed, it's all about the hardware
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Lulz. So the only successful and enjoyable college football season is when your team wins the NC, and nothing else matters? Got it.
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Lulz. So the only successful and enjoyable college football season is when your team wins the NC, and nothing else matters? Got it.
Of course not. But when you're trying to clown a rival who has much more recently accomplished the highest goal in the sport, twice, and your own team hasn't done it in 29 years...
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Of course not. But when you're trying to clown a rival who has much more recently accomplished the highest goal in the sport, twice, and your own team hasn't done it in 29 years...
Lulz.
I said the Giants are one of the few teams Dallas can make fun of. 1-17 proves me right. I mean, objectively, that's straight up laughable. Y'all can try and twist it how you like, but the Giants are worthy of clowning right now, even from Dallas fans.
Watching you all contort in strange ways to defend the Giants via 3rd party smack is... well, it's a thing, I guess. It has me laughing anyway.
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I'm not defending them. They suck.
I'm criticizing you for throwing stones at their glass house while living in your own.
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Lulz. So the only successful and enjoyable college football season is when your team wins the NC, and nothing else matters? Got it.
just sayin, if yer gonna hold the cowboys super bowl trophies above the Vikings (which you should)
then the Giants are gonna hold theirs over the Cowboys
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Giants only have 4 SB trophies, Cowboys have 5. They're all ancient history at this point, so if the hardware is all that matters, then there you have it.
I'm not defending them. They suck.
I'm criticizing you for throwing stones at their glass house while living in your own.
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Giants are complete trash and have been so for awhile. Everyone is allowed to make fun of them. Viciously. They deserve it.
edit: except for Browns fans.
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Giants are complete trash and have been so for awhile. Everyone is allowed to make fun of them. Viciously. They deserve it.
edit: except for Browns fans.
Ha, love the edit.
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Isn't this all 2025 NFL stuff?
Asking for a friend.
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I suppose you could start the 2025 NFL Thread and put all of this nastiness behind us.