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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on August 09, 2024, 10:00:34 PM
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What are some great 2-loss teams from history? You could say 2007 LSU might have been one, as NC. The famed 1990 Miami team and their Cotton Bowl hijinks is probably one.
Personally, I know 2001 Florida was one. +27 point diff per game, 400 yds passing/gm. Only lost when the starting RB was hurt. 2 losses by a combined 5 pts.
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2008 OU was pretty great.
Others?
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The 05 Buckeye team was pretty good, with very close losses to #1 Texas and #3 Penn State. Otherwise only had one 1 score win
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69 Huskers lost to #5 USC Trojans and #7 Mizzou in Columbia
79 Huskers lost to the #8 Sooners in Norman 14-17
lost to #8 Houston in the Cotton Bowl the end the season
96 Huskers upset by the Sundevils early after undefeated 94 and 95 seasons
then fluke upset vs the unranked Horns in the big 12 champ game
beat Drunkenmiller and Virginia Tech in the Orange bowl 41-21
2000 Huskers lost to #3 Sooners in Norman and #16 K-state in Manhattan
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1976 Michigan led the country in scoring offense and defense, went 10-2.
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2004 Cal was a damn wagon. Only loss in the regular season was to a great USC team. Generally dominated otherwise. Then pulled an SEC after getting passed over for the Rose Bowl.
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2019 Bama was a great team.
Losses were by 5 to the great LSU NC team and then Auburn w/o Tua.
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2012 Texas A&M not too shabby. Two losses, first game to Florida who went to the BCS that year by I think 2 points, LSU. Johnny Manziel beat Bama in Tuscaloosa and bitch slapped B-12 champion OU in the Cotton Bowl.
It was ou first year in the SEC under a new coach.
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2012 Texas A&M (11-2) lead by Johnny Manziel with a win over #1 Alabama
1997 Tennessee (11-2) lead by Peyton Manning with losses only to #1 Florida and #2 Nebraska in the Orange Bowl
2008 Texas Tech (11-2), Mike Leach’s best season with a famous win over #1 Texas
1995 Colorado (10-2) lead by Koy Detmer with wins over top 10 Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Kansas State
2015 Michigan State (12-2), beating #3 Ohio State in Columbus, beating undefeated Iowa to win the Big Ten, and losing to eventual National Champion Alabama in the CFP
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2008 Texas Tech (11-2), Mike Leach’s best season with a famous win over #1 Texas
1995 Colorado (10-2) lead by Koy Detmer with wins over top 10 Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Kansas State
some may say "infamous" win over Texas
95 Buffies only lost by 23 to the greatest team ever
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Who were the worst 2-loss teams ever?
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michigan, colorado, notre dame, miami
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The best UGA 2 loss team was in 1981. They still had Belue at QB and he was decent, Herschel was a soph, and they had defense. Lost a turnover fest at Clemson and then on the last play at the Sugar Bowl against Pitt.
They beat Tennessee 44-0 in a game not that close.
Even though Walker was able to push, shove, and get through Clemson's defense by rushing 28 times for 111 yards, it wasn't enough to overcome 9 turnovers by the Bulldogs in the loss to the Tigers
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were they running the triple option and pitching the ball around?
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were they running the triple option and pitching the ball around?
No, they just had a lot of TOs that day. The offense was mostly toss right and toss left. Five TOs were interceptions, some off tipped balls.
Clemson won the NC that year.
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did Walker have butter fingers? Couldn't catch the pitch
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did Walker have butter fingers? Couldn't catch the pitch
I think he fumbled once. It was a show of feces all around.
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9 turnovers from a risk-adverse offense just goes to show that anything can happen (a la that OU loss to KU in '75).
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2002 Texas was pretty good, though not on the same level as a couple already mentioned.
11-2 with a loss to 12-2 B12 champions and Rose Bowl champion OU, and a pesky Texas Tech team in Lubbock.
But also a lovely shellacking of Saban's LSU Tigers in the Cotton Bowl.
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The 97 and 98 UCLA teams were entertaining. Garbage defense, but went 10-2 in consecutive seasons.
In 97, they lost their first 2 games by 1 score each, then utterly WTF slaughtered Texas 66-3. That's the ultimate from-out-of-nowhere game outcome in my mind, to this day. Won their last 10 games.
In 98, they won their FIRST 10 games (so 20 in a row, overall) before losing that rescheduled shootout at the Orange Bowl vs Miami, then getting run over by Ron Dayne in the RB.
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fUCLA
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fUCLA
"Wesconsin is the worst team to ever play in the Rose Bowl."
- Craig f'ing James, 1998.
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"Wesconsin is the worst team to ever play in the Rose Bowl."
- Craig f'ing James, 1998.
Wow. Now THAT'S ignorance.
I think the worst thing you could actually say about that team was maybe it was the worst passing attack of a RB team the past 10-15 years. Maybe.
But
Dayne
lockdown CB Fletcher
elite kicker and punter
elite punt returner
elite run defense
What a bizarre thing to say from James. Why even go there? lol
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I've always thought it a bit ironic that the 1980 UGA team won an NC and barely escaped with several miracle wins. The 1981 team was better, in my view, and was 11-2. The 1982 team was good but could not throw the ball and relied on #34 too much and it cost them.
You need some breaks. Usually. Nebraska excepted.
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I think all bigtime fans know of seasons where a better team had a worse record and vice-versa.
In all of my researching of teams across eras, you'd be surprised how many teams with great records had razor-thin margins. Most often it was back in the 70s and early 80s of 'we'll try to out-tough you and you try to out-tough us' type of football strategy was the thing to do.
If you put a Spurrier or Tiller back then, or if LaVell Edwards was at a P5 program, they would have wiped the floor with most everybody. That's how Miami became Miami - going against the grain, passing to its RBs, passing more overall, along with the S to LB and LB to DE thing.
Back in 1980, most everyone was basically 2023 Iowa, but with a better running game.
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T&F has been terrific. Some amazingly close finishes for medals at all distances.
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Wrong thread lol
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1999 Wisconsin was a pretty good 10-2 team.
That Rose Bowl loss to f'ing TCU in 2010 still stings. Should have been 12-1, dammit.
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1999 Wisconsin was a pretty good 10-2 team.
That Rose Bowl loss to f'ing TCU in 2010 still stings. Should have been 12-1, dammit.
Coach Darrell Royal labeled TCU as the "cockroaches" because they fall into stuff and mess it up. Just as appropriate in the 2020s as it was the 90s as it was in the 60s.
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If you put a Spurrier or Tiller back then, or if LaVell Edwards was at a P5 program, they would have wiped the floor with most everybody.
until they ran into a 93, 94, 95, 96 or 97 Nebraska
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until they ran into a 93, 94, 95, 96 or 97 Nebraska
Bu they'd have faced and decimated all or many of the Nebraska teams before that. That's my point - offenses were still in the caveman days back then. It's not about individual programs, but of the style of play overall.
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Coach Darrell Royal labeled TCU as the "cockroaches" because they fall into stuff and mess it up. Just as appropriate in the 2020s as it was the 90s as it was in the 60s.
Did anyone else get the 1994 or 1995 Athlon preseason mag touting TCU QB Max Knake as their preseason All-American QB? I was starting HS then and even at that age knew how absurd it was.
I think I mentioned it on another thread. But it was a poor prediction, lol.
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Bu they'd have faced and decimated all or many of the Nebraska teams before that. That's my point - offenses were still in the caveman days back then. It's not about individual programs, but of the style of play overall.
well the "experts" knew Spurrier's offense would lap Osbornes' dinosaur offense in 95, but.............
62-24
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Someone should have told them both offenses don't take the field at the same time.
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so, it was the lack of defense by the SEC team
I could agree, since I was there
of course the Big 12 defense had ALL the answers for the fancy fun & gun Spurrier offense that night
empty backfield means they have NO ONE to pick up the blitz
poor Danny
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I doubt it falls into “best ever” category but the 2007 WVU team that went 11-2 was pretty good. Both losses came in games where Pat White got hurt and missed large stretches of the game.
The first was a 21-13 loss to USF where WVU outgained the Bulls 421-274 but had 6 turnovers. The second was the 13-9 nightmare to Pitt when WVU blew a red carpet opportunity to play Ohio St in the BCS Championship game.
With the new playoff format WVU will never come that close to a national title again. I’ll never get over that game.
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That was one of the most unbelievable outcomes I can remember. But that was the year of crazy outcomes.
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In 98, they won their FIRST 10 games (so 20 in a row, overall) before losing that rescheduled shootout at the Orange Bowl vs Miami, then getting run over by Ron Dayne in the RB.
Here is what I remember about that RB. I was in college at the time. My roommate was big on UCLA before the Miami loss to win the NC. He thought they'd murder Wisconsin. I remember saying to him:
"If they can't stop Miami's running game, how are they going to stop Ron Dayne?"
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Yeah, Eddgerin James had 199 on them. Or maybe 299? It was some video game number.
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How many 0-2 teams were there in the early days? Those were the worst 2-loss teams.
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned the "hot" end-of-year 01 CU or 07 UGA teams.
There was talk of having either of them being given a chance at the NCG, due to their losses being early. As if September losses count less or something.
01 CU beat NCG sacrificial lamb Nebraska 62-37. But lost earlier to Fresno and blown out by Texas. And after their bowl, the Buffs were a 3-loss team, so that's why no one's mentioned them. :57:
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The Dawgs lost early to Carolina and blown out by Tennessee, but wound up ranked 4th nationally by bowl season, where they smashed Hawaii. They wound up winning all their games vs ranked teams (impressive)...which means both losses were vs unranked teams (damning). The Stafford + Moreno offense wasn't that great, actually.
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned the "hot" end-of-year 01 CU or 07 UGA teams.
There was talk of having either of them being given a chance at the NCG, due to their losses being early. As if September losses count less or something.
01 CU beat NCG sacrificial lamb Nebraska 62-37. But lost earlier to Fresno and blown out by Texas. And after their bowl, the Buffs were a 3-loss team, so that's why no one's mentioned them. :57:
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The Dawgs lost early to Carolina and blown out by Tennessee, but wound up ranked 4th nationally by bowl season, where they smashed Hawaii. They wound up winning all their games vs ranked teams (impressive)...which means both losses were vs unranked teams (damning). The Stafford + Moreno offense wasn't that great, actually.
Those Buffs lost three games.
Looking back on that UGA team, they might have been a little over hyped by a blend of SEC aura and draft talent. That team wasn’t THAT dominant.
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Here’s a fun one, 1980 Nebraska. Second in scoring O and D against a No. 12 schedule.
Lost to a top-5 Noles team 18-14 and No. 3 Oklahoma 21-17.
Here’s a wild stat: They 91.3 plays per game, 73.9 runs. Four dudes had between 108 and 156 carries in 12 games, and another had 72.
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until they ran into a 93, 94, 95, 96 or 97 Nebraska
or Fla,FSU or perhaps even the spit it out,spit it out - UofM 🤮
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Here’s a fun one, 1980 Nebraska. Second in scoring O and D against a No. 12 schedule.
Lost to a top-5 Noles team 18-14 and No. 3 Oklahoma 21-17.
Here’s a wild stat: They 91.3 plays per game, 73.9 runs. Four dudes had between 108 and 156 carries in 12 games, and another had 72.
I missed this one
Andra Franklin at FB
Jarvis Redwine at I-back
Dave Rimmington
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Here’s a fun one, 1980 Nebraska. Second in scoring O and D against a No. 12 schedule.
Lost to a top-5 Noles team 18-14 and No. 3 Oklahoma 21-17.
Here’s a wild stat: They 91.3 plays per game, 73.9 runs. Four dudes had between 108 and 156 carries in 12 games, and another had 72.
I only recently created this team for WN. An almost 29 point differential is huge for a 2-loss team. I guess it was the days of the big 2 and little 6 back then.
Elite defense and good passing option QB. As you say, balanced ball distribution. Both IBs averaged 7+ ypc and a productive FB. The only nitpick would be the QB wasn't a plus runner.
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How many 0-2 teams were there in the early days? Those were the worst 2-loss teams.
I looked it up, and there were a few 0-1 teams in the early 1870s. There's never been an 0-2 team.
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I only recently created this team for WN. An almost 29 point differential is huge for a 2-loss team. I guess it was the days of the big 2 and little 6 back then.
Elite defense and good passing option QB. As you say, balanced ball distribution. Both IBs averaged 7+ ypc and a productive FB. The only nitpick would be the QB wasn't a plus runner.
Mizzou climbed to a #9 ranking before a loss to Penn St.
Penn St lost to Nebraska in State College
Non-con schedules were great back then
The next season Osborne started a senior non-runner at QB before turning to soph Turner Gill
Gill was the recruit from Ft. Worth that Switzer wanted. Plus runner
82 and 83 offenses set some NCAA records
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Non-con schedules were great back then
Having a bunch of helmet-program independents made sure of that.
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Jim Druckenmiller - Virginia Tech football QB 1995-96 - 2 losses
He is considered one of the best QBs to ever play at Virginia Tech. In 1995, he led the Hokies to a 10-win season and a Sugar Bowl victory against the Texas Longhorns. The following year, they also accomplished another 10-win season and would square off against Nebraska in the Orange Bowl. They, however, lost that game 41-21.
It is often stated that Jim put Virginia Tech football on the map, leading to many years of success in the late 90s into the 2000s. Although the program has not seen much success as of lately, I am looking forward to the day that Virginia Tech football returns to national prominence.
(https://i.imgur.com/r8AtQwR.png)