I responded "No." I do not believe he has the mental capacity to be president of the US.Same, but I didn't want to muddy the waters. I just wanted to see if anybody really thinks he can do the job. I really only put those options out there for S&G.
I also believe Trump sucks and that Biden belongs in a nursing home.
It still boggles my mind that we saw what a disaster Trump was, and Biden can't put two sentences together, and these are our options. Or RFK if you like worm brained conspiracy theories.After the debate I was like 🤮
I was like that long before the debateFixed.
Trump has been a bombastic ego maniac with diarrhea of the mouth
Biden has for a couple years been an old man with Dimentia and diarrhea of the mouth.
Most Rs have gone from voting with their Bible to voting with their wallets. It's interesting.It's always been a mix of both.
He says he's not voting this time around. He lives in Illinois so he thinks it wouldn't matter either way.I originally was registered in Michigan, now Pennsylvania. Always as an independent. I can't handle another call or text based on that. I wish I was a registered something in a solid blue/red state.
I advised him to vote anyway. It matters.
In Minnesota, you don't register with a party when you register to vote.Pennsylvania has a closed primary. Michigan doesn't. Both have their issues. A closed primary means only the extremes are picking the candidates. An open means the other side can try to sabotage it. There is no correct answer
Not that I'm the dean of board management, but wouldn't a sort of direct political discussion about candidates be best located on the appropriate sub board?the dean could and probably should lock this board
I'm registered as an independent.Why lie to yourself?
Sorry to disappoint ya, 'Fro.
I originally was registered in Michigan, now Pennsylvania. Always as an independent. I can't handle another call or text based on that. I wish I was a registered something in a solid blue/red state.Landslide winner, tbh
I'm inclined to tell both committees I'm voting for whoever bugs me the least between now and November
This is simply not true. When a school district is choosing a new curriculum series to purchase, it's required to put the prospective options on display for anyone to come investigate, vet, or just peruse. It's required. It's during the decision-making process, which is some number of weeks, like 6-10, somewhere in there.
- parents not having a voice in school curriculum
This is simply not true. When a school district is choosing a new curriculum series to purchase, it's required to put the prospective options on display for anyone to come investigate, vet, or just peruse. It's required. It's during the decision-making process, which is some number of weeks, like 6-10, somewhere in there.I give you that. That is your world and you know it far better than me.
No one checks it out. No one cares. They just bitch and moan after the fact. REacting instead of PROactively contributing their opinion at the appropriate time.
It's as if the school district sets up a virtual microphone for parents' voices to be heard, but no one steps up to it. What happens is a bunch of complaining after the fact.
We derail and side track threads. It’s what we do.Sigh. I suppose these days politics are treated like sports entertainment, and everyone wants to discuss politics like they’re hot take/embrace debate sports (but much more bitter and acrimonious)
Sigh. I suppose these days politics are treated like sports entertainment, and everyone wants to discuss politics like they’re hot take/embrace debate sports (but much more bitter and acrimonious)I'd rather it be kept in one thread, and not dominate every day, but it's offseason everything.
I guess I am in the minority in finding a lack of that refreshing.
A lot of sweeping generalizations in here.Exactly.
The one nobody is talking about are the large swath of non- bible thumpers who can’t stand either candidate but will vote based on their desire to stop what they perceive as the progressive “Agenda”.
the dean could and probably should lock this boardThat would likely kill it for good.
A lot of sweeping generalizations in here.I think this kinda cuts to a sort of interesting central point.
The one nobody is talking about are the large swath of non- bible thumpers who can’t stand either candidate, but will vote based on there desire to stop what they perceive as the progressive
“Agenda”.
-defund the police
-soft on crime- they see it every day on their tv
- no bail
-open border with no vetting
-forcing EVs too quickly
- parents not having a voice in school curriculum
-pushing DEI past its useful intent and killing meritocracy,
- using courts to pursue the political opposition ( lawfare)
The list is super long. The point is- there seems to be people in this bucket all over the place. They are not religious at all. They just want the pendulum to swing back the other way.
If Joe Biden is too mentally incompetent to stand trial, per Special Counsel Hur, he's too mentally incompetent to serve as president.Oh jeez I'm agreeing with Michigan Fans
Sigh. I suppose these days politics are treated like sports entertainment, and everyone wants to discuss politics like they’re hot take/embrace debate sports (but much more bitter and acrimonious)I'm in the minority
I guess I am in the minority in finding a lack of that refreshing.
Sen. Tillis: ‘For the sake of the country, Biden should step aside’ | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/01/opinions/biden-debate-performance-step-aside-tillis/index.html)I would expect this from EVERY Republican senator
Republican Senator.
I'm in the minorityYes Runza munching and Saki Beer would certainly land you there
Yes Runza munching and Saki Beer would certainly land you thereBud heavy with runza
I would expect this from EVERY Republican senatorSame here.
it's news if/when it comes from Dem senators
I think this kinda cuts to a sort of interesting central point.https://www.foxnews.com/politics/migrant-accused-raping-teen-released-500-bail-despite-ice-calls
I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to create a sort of scary sounding list of many things that at various points have all been partial or total Republican aims. And then one could say that’s why a bunch of people vote blue. And maybe that says something about where we are. We’re mostly focused on trying to bulwark against the grotesqueries of the other side.
(I find the bail thing fascinating, purely from a policy/rights perspective, but maybe we can chat that out elsewhere)
Among Democrats, only about three-fifths thought Biden had the mental wherewithal to do the job.3 out of 5 think he's fine?
It's hard to come up with words to discuss this.
“I didn’t have my best night, but the fact is that you know, I wasn’t very smart," Biden said, speaking at the campaign fundraiser without the aid of a teleprompter. "I decided to travel around the world a couple times, going through around 100 time zones ... before ... the debate.
"Didn’t listen to my staff and came back and nearly fell asleep on stage," he said. "That's no excuse but it is an explanation.”
Biden traveled to France and Italy during two separate trips in the space of two weeks last month, flying overnight from the Group of Seven summit in Bari, Italy, to appear at a fundraiser with former President Barack Obama in Los Angeles on June 15 before returning to Washington the following day.
He then spent six days at Camp David preparing for the June 27 debate.
That kind of travel sounds like a pretty typical level of demand on a president of the USA. If he can't handle it, then he's not appropriate for office.Jet lag 12 days later. C'mon man! Get with it, Jack!
I mean, he's got a pretty decked-out ride, right? It's not like he's flying coach on Spirit airlines...Right. He could have slept all the way home, in luxury.
It still boggles my mind that we saw what a disaster Trump was, and Biden can't put two sentences together, and these are our options. Or RFK if you like worm brained conspiracy theories.Conspiracy theory is a term invented by the CIA. One that only stupid people use imo.
After the debate I was like 🤮That debate format where they could cut the mics actually helped Trump by curbing his worst impulses. Last go round he really hurt himself in the debates with Biden by just not keeping his god damn mouth shut. That debate format helped Trump more than anything- just by keeping his mouth shut and letting Biden open his demented mouth and hang himself.
mostly lies from both. One is a bombastic ego maniac with diarrhea of the mouth, the other an old man with Dimentia. 🤮
well, they're both liarsthis. astonishes me that people always jump on Trump about being a liar. do they not know who Joe Biden is? they are both massive liars. you can't be a successful politician in this country without being one. truth tellers don't win elections in the United States. conformists and propagandists do.
they are politicians
Most Rs have gone from voting with their Bible to voting with their wallets. It's interesting.it's not just R's buddy. It's how PEOPLE in general vote. They'll vote for whomever they believe raises their standard of living. Am I better off financially with this guy or that. Bush I lost his re-election because: he raised taxes, savings & loan crisis hit hard & economy was in recession.
Conspiracy theory is a term invented by the CIA. One that only stupid people use imo.What are things he's dead on about?
RFK is dead on about a lot of things. However I find his full-stop support of Israel and the genocide it's committing to be a deal breaker however.
hey, 4 out of 20 on this board voted yesI'll go public and say I was one of those four. I probably should have gone with "maybe", but I voted yes.
If Joe Biden is too mentally incompetent to stand trial, per Special Counsel Hur, he's too mentally incompetent to serve as president.winner winner chicken dinner.
Which is likely why this country has gone to shit- because we have a literal corpse whose brain has melted into the soft serve ice cream he loves as leader of the free world.I'm always fascinated to see opinions claiming the US has "gone to S" under Biden. That isn't my view, at all, though I don't credit Biden for anything much good.
Tides begin to turn on Joe Biden post-debate (thehill.com) (https://thehill.com/newsletters/1230-report/4753835-1230-report-tides-begin-to-turn-on-biden-post-debate/)Maybe he will give the country a birthday present tomorrow.
I think he resigns before August.
Tides begin to turn on Joe Biden post-debate (thehill.com) (https://thehill.com/newsletters/1230-report/4753835-1230-report-tides-begin-to-turn-on-biden-post-debate/)"reports" are that Biden's wife and son are telling Joe he's fine and continue on running.
I think he resigns before August.
2024 U.S. President (realclearpolling.com) (https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president)The betting odds they list don't add up to 100%. I assume this is because they aren't listing minor candidates.
Betting odds ... Harris is at 17.5%, Joe is at ... 9.7%. Trump at 55.8%.
It's funny. In most polls, if you ask people if they are better off than they were 1, 2, 5, 10 years ago, the overwhelming answer is yes. As soon as you tie it to politics, the answers change. The majority of Americans are better off now, than they were in 2020. And the majority of us were better in 2020 than in 2016. But when you tie it to Presidential election, and people pick up on context clues, the answers change. "Four years ago" shifts the narrative.Not sure I would be so confident about “ majority” being “ better off” now than 2020.
Not sure I would be so confident about “ majority” being “ better off” now than 2020.Which is why it's such a stupid question. And why voters en masse are equally stupid for basically acting on Carville's quote: "It's the economy, stupid."
and what does it even mean? Making more? Having your money be worth more or less than 2020? Safer? Happier with the direction?
And how much of it is actually impacted by POTUS?
Not sure I would be so confident about “ majority” being “ better off” now than 2020.A) Not making more.
and what does it even mean? Making more? Having your money be worth more or less than 2020? Safer? Happier with the direction?
And how much of it is actually impacted by POTUS?
Which is why it's such a stupid question. And why voters en masse are equally stupid for basically acting on Carville's quote: "It's the economy, stupid."I'm trying to figure out what this post means.
POTUS can of course have an effect on the economy. But most of what happens in the economy is due to things far beyond their control or scope.
But in the voting booth, voters often vote based on the economy either crediting the party in the White House or blaming the party in the White House.
Even asking the question "are you better off than you were 4 years ago" as if it should be meaningful in a voting decision is providing a veneer of legitimacy to the stupidity.
Not sure I would be so confident about “ majority” being “ better off” now than 2020.Simply the polling question "are you better off". When you remove the Presidential election from the time frame from the question, most people answer yes. When you add the time frame, people answer based on their views of the president. I'm an energy attorney. Very tied to energy policy. I'm better off now than I was in 2020. Better in 2020 than in 2016. Better in 2016 than in 2012. The fact is we are mostly going in one direction.
and what does it even mean? Making more? Having your money be worth more or less than 2020? Safer? Happier with the direction?
And how much of it is actually impacted by POTUS?
I'm trying to figure out what this post means.Presidential elections are often a referendum on the state of the economy, despite the fact that the President in power is not really all that responsible for the state of the economy.
I'll go public and say I was one of those four. I probably should have gone with "maybe", but I voted yes.Please appreciate that I'm trying to do this in as non-partisan a way as I can because my honest opinion is that I'd be against him regardless of his mental state. That said, his obviously declining mental state troubles me because the staffers (on both sides) tend to be pretty radical. Basically this is because neutrals simply don't get involved in politics. The people who DO get involved are wing nuts (both sides). I think Biden's administration has been a bit more radical than it would otherwise have been because of this. He isn't "there" to reign them in.
The reason for that is that I think the biggest problem with Biden is not that he's no longer "there", but that he's a doddering old man who simply isn't quick enough any more to do something like a debate.
But the presidency isn't a debate. The President isn't a quarterback who has to make lightning-fast decisions while the blitz is coming. The President has an army of advisers, can have people collating all the necessary information to make decisions and do his job, and can take the time to think about things. When his job is making decisions with the immediacy most often measured in hours or days, not seconds or minute, I think he's still able to do the job.
That said, I don't think he has the mental capacity to run for the job, which is a whole different set of skills. It requires public appearances like the debate where he certainly didn't show out as someone who trust to be the leader of the free world. You're not going to get elected looking like he looked last Thursday night. The debate was the chance to dispel all the "Sleepy Joe" criticism, and instead he validated it.
It’s the Fed.Everything's way more expensive than it was four years ago and my pay increases have not kept up with it, thus my buying power is less than it was four years ago.
Most of my income is invested and I’ve done very well. I know many many have not.
Please appreciate that I'm trying to do this in as non-partisan a way as I can because my honest opinion is that I'd be against him regardless of his mental state. That said, his obviously declining mental state troubles me because the staffers (on both sides) tend to be pretty radical. Basically this is because neutrals simply don't get involved in politics. The people who DO get involved are wing nuts (both sides). I think Biden's administration has been a bit more radical than it would otherwise have been because of this. He isn't "there" to reign them in.Well said, medina. And having watched one of my wife's best friends who went through early-onset with her mother, I'm sorry you had to go through that with your dad.
Moving on, I get what you are saying and I can agree in almost all circumstances but there are some circumstances where making quick decisions is necessary. Realistically, his advisors would probably just act on his behalf and deal with the consequences later so it probably doesn't cause a major problem. That said, it does mean that his unelected underlings who (see above) are generally more radical than him are making decisions that they aren't Constitutionally authorized to make. Over the years there has been a lot of criticism (mostly from the left) of Haig's rather infamous "I'm in charge here" comment after the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. Are we now effectively in that territory all, most, or some of the time?
FIFY
I think we're in a difficult place as a country. We willpotentially mayelect someone who relies on his "handlers" to do things for him.
The real question:This was my thinking in 2016.
"Does the US collectively have the mental capacity to afford us two choices who are not both just plain awful?"
In my view, Joe has midstage dementia. He probably does go in and out, but even when he's "in" he's not anything like 100%. He can sound "OK" if everything is highly controlled and he's in an "in" phase. This interview tonight will be as controlled as any can be, but it will depend a lot on whether Joe is mostly there, or not, and no one can manage that. It could be another F-ing disaster.I'm sure he's already got the questions for this "interview".
At best, he will seem fairly "OK" and that would mean he stays in the race.
why would Biden dig in and fight thisI would assume he thinks he is the best chance for a Democrat to win, which might not be incorrect (not a great field there). And thus the best chance to advance the beliefs and ideals that he has basically works for his whole life.
perhaps, he's waiting for a few to offer him a fistful of dollars to drop out?
He can't really enjoy the job or schedule, or believe he's really about to accomplish anything of substance
maybe so he can pardon his son?
Joe Biden: Democratic donors say they won't finance party until he drops out (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/04/democratic-donors-wont-finance-party-until-joe-biden-drops-out.html)When did they fire the coach? When the boosters pony up for the buyout
I don't know how widely spread this is, but money talks.
I didn't watch, I gather he didn't have any massive failures last night.Massive failures? Stef/ABC/WH wasn't going to allow that to happen. The interview was pre-recorded and edited. Make of that what you will.
"We" have to hold them to account. The various "fact checkers" will do their checking, but the common theme by supporters is "Those guys are all liberals/conservative" so ignore them, even if their fact checking is clearly correct.I dunno.
Presidents will always emphasize/exaggerate/misrepresent any "facts" that look good, and vice versa. Trump claimed we had the best economy ever in his term, which is not correct either. And in my view, a President has far less influence over an economy than most people think.
I think most voters think "It's he economy, stupid" when assessing a president's actions. It's usually most of the "conversation" aside from conflicts overseas. Even immigration relates to the economy. And in my view, a President has less influence over an economy that most people think. A President can inherit a bad economy, or a good one, and perhaps Congress passes some "relief" bills in the former case that just about any President would sign. In the latter case, they mostly "do" nothing and let it ride. What does a President "DO"? He can get us entangled in some foreign conflict that can cause issues. An adept President can influence Congress, but few of them are what I'd call adept.There are liberals who think the economy is bad today. Particularly those who would like to buy a home (like my brother).
Many/most conservatives think our current economy is something close to horrible, many liberals think it's great, all due to Biden.
Setting presidential politics aside:This is your view, based on your experience and background/living?
When you take all of the data into consideration like ( and this is by no means a complete list)
- national Debt
- labor market
- interest rates
- consumer spending
- consumer debt
- credit performance
- retail property occupancy
-commercial property occupancy/vacancy
-inflation v wage trends
-housing availability
-housing affordability
-currency exchange/value
-business confidence and investment
- fuel prices ( yes, separate from other inflation)
The economy is stuck in the mud and teetering on something worse.
This is your view, based on your experience and background/living?this is my view based on the very granular and up to date data I see. I would love to share it but it is proprietary ( it would get me fired). But it is public data, just assembled in a way to tell you what is going on out there.
I don't know why that caught my eye, curiosity I suppose, but what is the data there? Is it too high? Too low?It's very low. The shopping malls (and even some strip malls) are suffering, and/or going away.
There are liberals who think the economy is bad today. Particularly those who would like to buy a home (like my brother).Hmmm, that's interesting. I've never thought the inability to buy homes was the sign of a "bad" economy. In fact, I've usually felt the opposite.
We have a housing shortage, especially affordable housing.
A lot of millennials are pretty sour right now. Gen Z is numb.
It's very low. The shopping malls (and even some strip malls) are suffering, and/or going away.Shoot, I had a brain fart and didn't read "retail."
The large mall North from us is converting to affordable residential. The Grand Avenue Mall in Milwaukee is doing the same.
Many, many examples.
Anchor Stores like Bloomies and Macy's are teetering. Sears and Carson's are gone. JCP is close. Without anchors, malls can't make it.
It's very low. The shopping malls (and even some strip malls) are suffering, and/or going away.Yeah, one of the malls near us was recently bulldozed. For a while they were talking about transforming it, but it would still be a primarily restaurant / retail plan. A couple years back they drastically reduced the retail portion, increasing the amount planned for office/residential spaces.
The large mall North from us is converting to affordable residential. The Grand Avenue Mall in Milwaukee is doing the same.
Many, many examples.
Anchor Stores like Bloomies and Macy's are teetering. Sears and Carson's are gone. JCP is close. Without anchors, malls can't make it.
I didn't watch, I gather he didn't have any massive failures last night.there would be zero reason for anyone to watch that interview. it was a pre-recorded, edited soft-ball tongue bath interview done by a card-carrying DNC operative hack who is a loyalist to his former bosses the Clintons- who happen to be some of the most repugnant disgusting unlikable human beings ever to live- the both of them.
they're all liarsno shit. amazes me that people think Trump is some kind of brand new thing we've never seen before in politics....and that he is the first politician ever to lie. ummm....wtf? seriously people? Biden is one of the greatest liars in the history of politics. he's most definitely in the hall of fame of political lying.
they all take credit for things they didn't do
when they're called out on it, it's a shrug
never held accountable
no shit. amazes me that people think Trump is some kind of brand new thing we've never seen before in politics....and that he is the first politician ever to lie. ummm....wtf? seriously people? Biden is one of the greatest liars in the history of politics. he's most definitely in the hall of fame of political lying.Trump lies about everything, even little things. Mundane shit no one cares about. Ask him if he wears makeup, he'd tell you he's been playing a lot of golf.
Bush II lied the US into war with Iraq over WMDs that never existed. Bush II ran an illegal world wide torture campaign. Bush II basically created the security state and warrantless illegal spying on US citizens. But Trump is the greatest threat and liar we've ever seen. Yeah....um....k. :043:
No one lies as much as him.SEC recruiters and nancy pelosi say hello
and it doesn't matter, cause lying in politics is expectedWhy do you pretend like severity isn't a thing?
Joe lied about plenty of things during the debate, but that wasn't as bad as TrumpJoe said Trump lied 28 times during the debate.
So, this is a thread about Trump now. It's the Liberal way.Per Trump votes shouldn't count anyway so I suppose it is all academic
Q- Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
A- But Trump! Orange Man Bad! Mean Tweets!
Joe said Trump lied 28 times during the debate.Joe didn't understand that he was lying during the debate and didn't realize he was lying about the number of times Trump lied.
Nobody has been able to support that lie.
Per Trump votes shouldn't count anyway so I suppose it is all academicExhibit A.
I assume everyone's watched the video of Trump and Biden leaving the debate.........He just had a bad night.
Biden doesn't have the physical capacity to be president.
Exhibit A.Golly why should anyone be wary of a candidate who doesn't believe in elections? You'd have to be deranged to care about that.
TDS
Golly why should anyone be wary of a candidate who doesn't believe in elections? You'd have to be deranged to care about that.He believes in elections, or he wouldn't be running in one.
He believes in elections, or he wouldn't be running in one.Lol yeah ok. And Joe Biden is in his prime. If we are gonna ignore reality might as well go the whole way
If Trump would simply SHUT HIS MOUTH he'd win I think. I don't think he can do that.He seems to be listening to you lately.
I don't think this practice is unusual or even problematic. The publicity from it is bad, it wouldn't be bad if Biden were "normal".So, you are OK with this?
It happens often. In this case, it looks bad.
So, you are OK with this?My guess would be that this happens all the time. In an interview, the interviewee probably has certain topics that they affirmatively want to have covered. While that doesn't make up an entire interview, it makes sure that the interviewer gets to ask the questions they want to ask, but that the interviewee also gets to talk about the topics that they want aired.
Do you really think the DJT campaign does this, and do you really think the media would oblige if so?
My guess would be that this happens all the time. In an interview, the interviewee probably has certain topics that they affirmatively want to have covered. While that doesn't make up an entire interview, it makes sure that the interviewer gets to ask the questions they want to ask, but that the interviewee also gets to talk about the topics that they want aired.I do not.
And yes, I would think the Trump campaign does this. Do you really think Hannity and the other FNC folks wouldn't oblige this for Trump? Frankly, if Trump was going into "hostile territory", don't you think one of the conditions of the interview might be that a certain portion of the questions were things he wanted to be asked, and the interviewer would oblige in order to secure the interview?
I think this is how the sausage is made.
Like CD says, this looks bad because Biden already looks bad. If Trump or Obama did it, it might look like vanity. If Biden does it, it looks like he doesn't have the competency or quickness to answer any question he hasn't prepared for.
Putin or Xi aren't gonna telegraph their plans to the President.they control their interviews and press conferences
I do not.You might have a point with Trump. After all, he talks about whatever the hell he wants to talk about anyway regardless of what question is asked, as the debate showed... I'm not sure he is even listening to the question... After all it's not him talking, so it can't be THAT important... :57:
Here is my fake interview with Trump.Now do Joe.
"How would you handle the national deficit?"
"I had the best national deficit during my Presidency of all time. It was perfect. I'm the king of debt, I understand debt, Joe Biden doesn't know what debt is, he's looney tunes you know? A catastrophe for the country, letting in rapists and murders on the southern border. I closed that border, he left it wide open, WIDE open. And crashed the economy which I left him in perfect shape. Sleepy Joe, I call him, and his side kick, whoever she is "Kermeller" or some such, she's even worse."
Obviously, I don't think he does, I don't think there is much argument on that point either. I have yet to hear anyone defend Joe as being compos mentis, or even close.(https://i.imgur.com/hUqHlPo.png)
You'd have to be a complete partisan, or not paying any attention, to think he does.
I understand the "Trump Sucks"Trump's name was not mentioned in the question. Not sure why it was even part of the poll.
I don't understand the "Yes"
Obviously, I don't think he does, I don't think there is much argument on that point either. I have yet to hear anyone defend Joe as being compos mentis, or even close.You obviously haven't seen the Gov confab where Governor Joe Isuzu, er Gov Walz says so w a straight face.
You'd have to be a complete partisan, or not paying any attention, to think he does.
Vote for policy. Period.If that is the standard then Joe Biden is competent to be president
I'd vote for Micky Mouse if I thought he could do a good job on things I care about.
If that is the standard then Joe Biden is competent to be presidentYou forgot the "things I care about" part.
They can’t both be from the same state.Is that a rule or a norm? Norms don't exist anymore.
I'm starting to think he bails this week, for a Harris-Newsom ticket - not decided by the delegation at an open convention in Chicago but decided by the Democratic Elites.Aren't those basically the same thing? Or are you using "delegation" to just mean the outcome of a primary?
I responded "No." I do not believe he has the mental capacity to be president of the US.Home healthcare works well for a while. I don't think Biden belongs in a nursing home. His spouse can give him some care, and if they need more assistance, they have the secret service, and they could retain home healthcare workers.
I also believe Trump sucks and that Biden belongs in a nursing home.
Aren't those basically the same thing? Or are you using "delegation" to just mean the outcome of a primary?I think we can see "delegates" who are usually low level or county level Democratic Party "officials" and supporters, and the elites who likely are not "delegates" but hold a lot of power. They can horse trade, by elevating those delegates to potentially lucrative party or government positions.
Newsome as a VP would be a waste. They'd need someone from one of the midwest states up for grabs.It's not up for grabs, but this guy is almost as good as Newsom for f'ing things up.
I think we can see "delegates" who are usually low level or county level Democratic Party "officials" and supporters, and the elites who likely are not "delegates" but hold a lot of power. They can horse trade, by elevating those delegates to potentially lucrative party or government positions.I suppose. I guess if you really want a late change, I always assumed it would fall into some realm of "politics," which is trading and compromise to get things done.
Ambassador to Lithuania?
Assistant Associate Secretary of Commerce?
Vote for my guy/gal ...
I guess this happens often too, seeing that "all" politicians provide approved questions to hosts?I wouldn't say "all", I'd say it's quite common. Candidates are "handled" by their handlers. The handlers will be asked for interviews all the time from Joe and Sally and Bill. They control who gets the interviews, and they know which will throw softballs. And they will suggest questions to be asked.
I am not usually one to offer diagnoses of people I’ve never met, but it does seem like the pundit class of the American media is suffering from severe memory loss. Because they’re doing exactly what they did in the 2016 presidential race – providing wildly asymmetrical and inflammatory coverage of the one candidate running against Donald J Trump.
TFG = Trump, I'm not sure why.Seen that one before. TFG = The Former Guy
Seen that one before. TFG = The Former GuyHa, I always thought it was a different word than former.
Doom sells.Victimhood too.
Why do you pretend like severity isn't a thing?severity? you want to talk about severity, give me a f**cking break.
Yes, the parents telling their kid Santa brings them toys for Christmas are lying, but sweeping them under the same rug as Trump is dishonest. And you know it.
Joe said Trump lied 28 times during the debate.Biden has lied a factor of god knows how much more than Trump- cause: he's a corrupt bought and paid for piece of sh*t owned by the military industrial complex and billionaire big tech wall street donor class and he's been in politics FAR longer- and Biden's lies have had serious and devastating consequences to millions of people in this country and around the world.
Nobody has been able to support that lie.
Having these two "candidates" as our choice is, for me, a sign our System is badly broken. I wouldn't want either one in ANY elected position anywhere, or any other position with any influence on anything.Trump winning in 2016 was a clear sign that system was broken. it's been broken. long before Trump came around. when a failed casino owner, hotelier/golf course owner, semi-retired Manhattan property developer turned TV gameshow host notorious for cheating on all 3 of his wives and banging models and playboy playmates wins the presidency because he was the only candidate able to get on one of the two tickets that was talking about the many grievances ordinary everyday Americans had and was wisely channeling their anger at the DC establishment and status quo- and he rode it all the way to the White House.
I'm starting to think he bails this week, for a Harris-Newsom ticket - not decided by the delegation at an open convention in Chicago but decided by the Democratic Elites.I don't think there's anyway in hell Harris is the nominee if Biden drops out. She is even more unpopular than he is. I still don't think Biden will drop out. They'll have to article 25 him. He's not going away willingly. Someone whose entire adult life has been spent as a politician and all about trying to weasel his way into the Presidency isn't going to just give that up.
So typical.
Anyway, California "leadership" goes to Washington.
What could go wrong?
One explanation for their actions is they know Biden is going to lose, and they don't like that.FIFY.
I can't think of a current politician in Federal office I like.I like Tim Scott. I like our local US Rep.
Is that a rule or a norm? Norms don't exist anymore.Constitutionally the electors from a State can't vote for a President and a VP both from their State.
I think it's pretty easy to change state of residency for most of these folks, but there probably is a timing issue at some point. Does DC count as a different state?I Don think it has to be "a different state". IIRC, the constitutional language is that at least one of the two shall be "not from" the state.
Anyway, I don't think Harris-Newsom is a likely pairing.
I Don think it has to be "a different state". IIRC, the constitutional language is that at least one of the two shall be "not from" the state.Ok, I looked it up:
Cheney changed his residency to be VP with Bush back in the day.He did and that will obviously be cited as precedent but this case is a bit more complicated because:
It would be "fun" if the President and VP ended up from different parties.If I worked for the Secret Service, I wouldn't think so.
Yeah the time factor could be a barrier, but I think the point is moot. Harris would need to pick someone from the midwest or maybe North Carolina.another swing state
As long as Biden has a pulse he'll continue to be useful to those who are actually running the country.Not if he loses the election.
Yeah the time factor could be a barrier, but I think the point is moot. Harris would need to pick someone from the midwest or maybe North Carolina.And I’m guessing the pool would be limited by people who don’t want to take an L to limit their political future.
It would be "fun" if the President and VP ended up from different parties.
It's funny, I posted that RCP link above on FB and it was immediately removed with a warning to me. It's just "information" so far as I can see.So, they are still carrying the DNC's water.
I almost never have had this happen on FB, maybe once before.
As long as Biden has a pulse he'll continue to be useful to those who are actually running the country.bingo. and to be fair, it's not just Biden, it's been most of them. they have donors and military/intelligence/defense establishment they are beholden to. very few of them actually run the entire show.
So, they are still carrying the DNC's water.Facebook is a cesspool of boomers arguing over sh*t that none of them know jacksh*t about in the first place. It's ridiculous. And kind of insane because it was started by some nerdy virgin in his dorm room in college and was designed for young people to connect and chat- now it's morphed into some weird shit where grandpas, grandmas, great uncles, and great aunts argue over political bullsh*t, like everything else in this country, boomers f**cking destroyed it. gotta love them. worst. generation. ever.
I just re-joined Book Face for the first time since January 2021. I might have to bail again.
So, they are still carrying the DNC's water.I think it tripped some algorithm, I don't have any clue why. I see rather vitriolic posts about Biden all the time. They offered an appeal mechanism, not that I especially care. I find FB "entertaining".
I just re-joined Book Face for the first time since January 2021. I might have to bail again.
Parkinson's expert visited White House, met with Biden's doctor (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/08/biden-blasts-elites-urging-him-to-exit-race-in-surprise-interview.html)As someone with a grandmother who suffered from Parkinson's--lived to 93(!) though--I wouldn't say that Biden shows signs there.
Parkinson's disease is often accompanied by these additional problems, which may be treatable:
- Thinking difficulties. You may experience cognitive problems, such as dementia, and thinking difficulties. These usually occur in the later stages of Parkinson's disease. Such cognitive problems aren't usually helped by medicines.
- Depression and emotional changes. You may experience depression, sometimes in the very early stages. Receiving treatment for depression can make it easier to handle the other challenges of Parkinson's disease.
You also may experience other emotional changes, such as fear, anxiety or loss of motivation. Your health care team may give you medicine to treat these symptoms.- Swallowing problems. You may develop difficulties with swallowing as your condition progresses. Saliva may accumulate in your mouth due to slowed swallowing, leading to drooling.
- Chewing and eating problems. Late-stage Parkinson's disease affects the muscles in the mouth, making chewing difficult. This can lead to choking and poor nutrition.
- Sleep problems and sleep disorders. People with Parkinson's disease often have sleep problems, including waking up frequently throughout the night, waking up early or falling asleep during the day.
People also may experience rapid eye movement sleep behavior disorder, which involves acting out dreams. Medicines may improve your sleep.- Bladder problems. Parkinson's disease may cause bladder problems, including being unable to control urine or having difficulty in urinating.
- Constipation. Many people with Parkinson's disease develop constipation, mainly due to a slower digestive tract.
Parkinson's expert visited White House, met with Biden's doctor (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/08/biden-blasts-elites-urging-him-to-exit-race-in-surprise-interview.html)I think the fact that this news got out is more interesting than the news itself. From what I know about dementia*, it really doesn't matter all that much whether it is caused by Parkinson's, or is Alzheimer's, or is just plain dementia. In any case the prognosis isn't good and the deterioration will continue.
As someone with a grandmother who suffered from Parkinson's--lived to 93(!) though--I wouldn't say that Biden shows signs there.My dad died from Parkinson’s. It is horrible.
I think it is a more standard old-age cognitive decline.
Joe Biden fundraising signs of weakness appear post debate (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/08/joe-biden-fundraising-debate.html)Abigail Disney the heiress to the Walt Disney family fortune came out and said she's not donating any more money to the Democratic party until Joe drops out.
Presuming this is true, this is one thing that would "influence" a lot of voices in the Democratic circle, and hard.
Trying to save his seat and power.Joe don't have to prove sh*t. He's the nominee unless he decides to drop out. He ain't dropping out. They'll have to invoke the 25th amendment to get rid of him.
Sen. Jon Tester says President Joe Biden must 'prove' he's 'up to the job' (thehill.com) (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4760277-tester-says-biden-must-prove-hes-up-to-the-job/)
The fact that this news was made public (by NBC no less) tells me that Biden is done and the Democrats will have a new nominee within a matter of weeks. I could be wrong of course but that is my take.it tells me that the Democrats are panicking now and know they can't use their minions in the dying legacy corporate media to gaslight and propagandize voters into believing the obvious lies about Biden's excellent mental acuity. Sorry Mornin' Joe...."Biden is beyond cogent, this is the best version of Biden ever, and F YOU IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" :043:
It would be political suicide even to try for the Cabinet members and KH. They won't want to risk that. And it doesn't really solve "the problem", which is the nomination.Since it has been brought up repeatedly, the 25th Amendment has four Sections:
Now, maybe if Joe has more really bad days in public, they might be forced to attempt it, but it would have to be several really bad public days. The story to date is "Everything is fine here."
There would first be multiple high level efforts to get him to retire and resign quietly.
This is not good.My guess is this was due to a phenomenon called sundowners. It is typical for those with dementia to have lapses in the evening.
Biden didn't show up for an early evening meeting with the German chancellor because he had to go to bed: report (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-didn-t-show-up-for-an-early-evening-meeting-with-the-german-chancellor-because-he-had-to-go-to-bed-report/ar-BB1pFJzf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=7da9ddb710164dd890ac1904b6cbe03f&ei=12)
My guess is this was due to a phenomenon called sundowners. It is typical for those with dementia to have lapses in the evening.Yes, it is.
I fully expected Biden's performance. Actually thinking it might be worseI didn't. I didn't think his handlers would let him on that stage if this was even a remote possibility.
Section 4 is the procedure for an involuntary transfer of Presidential power but note that this section transfers the powers, NOT the office. Ie, if it were invoked Harris would become "Acting President", NOT President. That may seem semantic and in a way it is but it matters because the invoking Section 4 would NOT create a vacancy in the office of VP. Biden would continue to be the President and Harris would continue to be VP, while acting as President.I think the drafters of this Amendment made a mistake here but I can understand because I'm not sure that my proposed solution is the best way to fix it.
I didn't. I didn't think his handlers would let him on that stage if this was even a remote possibility.This thought is what I keep coming back to.
I have to think that everyone around him thought that this would be his triumphant way to prove he wasn't "Sleepy Joe". That was the entire point of getting him on a stage with Trump. Show the world that he's still got it, and immediately dispel the "he's too old and he's losing it" rhetoric that has been thrown around on the right for months.
But he's too old and he's losing it. And the debate, rather than dispel that, proved it.
I didn't. I didn't think his handlers would let him on that stage if this was even a remote possibility.To clarify here, I think they'd have had to roll the dice if it was a "remote possibility". Ie, if Biden was in the VERY early stages of dementia where these lapses are sometimes a week apart and you were a Biden advisor, I think you'd do the debate and hope for the best. You *MIGHT* want to try to negotiate to have it on a Saturday so that you could do it earlier in the day to minimize the risk but other than that I don't think you necessarily accept the potential political damage from ducking the debate if this is only a "remote possibility".
Jon Stewart criticizes Biden's team over debate performance spin (thehill.com) (https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4761626-jon-stewart-biden-debate/)If he is having publicly visible lapses then this can't have been a "remote possibility". That brings me back to my theory that they *MUST* have known either:
Jon Stewart criticizes Biden's team over debate performance spin (thehill.com) (https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4761626-jon-stewart-biden-debate/)I watched this on YouTube last night and I thought it was sad but hilarious.
Is there a functional difference between "Acting President" and President, aside from perhaps there being no Vice President?If any of the lawyers on here want to chime in they may have a better take than mine but . . .
This Amendment was poorly written, in my view, as is the case with many of them.
If any of the lawyers on here want to chime in they may have a better take than mine but . . .Yeah I think that is right - I understand part of the motivation for that section was the Kennedy assassination and the idea of what if Kennedy survived as a vegetable.
I think that on a day-to-day basis there is no difference. The Amendment stipulates that the VP assumes "the powers and duties of the office". On a day-to-day basis, that is equivalent to being the President. There are no limitations.
AFAIK, the only difference then is that if Harris becomes "acting President" she can't appoint a replacement VP. I see this as problematic because nobody else can either because technically the office of VP wouldn't be vacant. She'd still be the VP.
House Democrats back Joe Biden after meeting (thehill.com) (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4762148-democrats-back-biden-debate/)This is not a thread about Donald Trump, but he's been very quiet lately.
If this is accurate, Biden appears to have weathered the storm so far as inside his party. If Trump could magically start sounding rather sane and boring and uneventful, he'd have it nearly in the bag. Coachspeak.
But, he won't.
But, if Biden has another public "issue", the Democrats will be in a deeper bind. And if Biden indeed IS having cognition issues, he WILL have another issue. And trying to keep him out of view won't work for long.
That September debate is not going to happen as scheduled - especially not at 9PM.The hole the Biden campaign is in is that the second debate MUST happen or it's a PR victory for Trump. The entire country saw [and/or talked about] the mess that Biden was in the first debate. If he ducks out of the second debate, what possible spin can there be other than he's afraid to be exposed, AGAIN, on that stage.
It will either be set for 3PM, or not happen at all.
Yeah I think that is right - I understand part of the motivation for that section was the Kennedy assassination and the idea of what if Kennedy survived as a vegetable.So, that brings me back to my hypothetical and this isn't a partisan thing, it could apply either way suppose either:
The hole the Biden campaign is in is that the second debate MUST happen or it's a PR victory for Trump. The entire country saw [and/or talked about] the mess that Biden was in the first debate. If he ducks out of the second debate, what possible spin can there be other than he's afraid to be exposed, AGAIN, on that stage.I agree. I think (per discussion upthread) that he could have gotten away with ducking the debates completely but after what happened in the first one, not showing up for the second one would be a catastrophe.
If Biden remains in the race, he MUST debate, and he MUST do well, or he might lose in a fashion resembling Mondale in '84.
I agree. I think (per discussion upthread) that he could have gotten away with ducking the debates completely but after what happened in the first one, not showing up for the second one would be a catastrophe.It is that either way.
It is that either way.It's currently a catastrophe. If he debates again, he has the "chance" to salvage it. If he can show up and talk like a coherent person.
It's not gonna happen at 9PM. No way "they" allow that.
This is not a thread about Donald Trump, but he's been very quiet lately.This is a REALLY interesting point.
If Trump could magically start sounding rather sane and boring and uneventful, he'd have it nearly in the bag. Coachspeak.Emphasis added.
But, he won't.
It is that either way.I think they are kinda stuck.
It's not gonna happen at 9PM. No way "they" allow that.
There is an old saying in Politics that says "When your opponent is hanging themselves, don't get in the way." Trump has made a multitude of political errors and it would seem more like him to come out swinging at Biden in this situation but Badge makes a good point. He has been almost eerily quiet.Exactly. Trump has nothing to gain from attacking Biden right now.
In the realm of political strategy, Trump's relative silence is ABSOLUTELY the best course of action. Right now the country (see this board for example) is discussing Biden's fitness and mental capacity. Trump wins from that conversation. Anything he does or says could distract from that so the best course for him right now is to STFU and he surprisingly has.
The other risk for Trump at this point is that coming out swinging at Biden NOW just looks brutish. Lots of us have had elderly parents or other relatives that went through something similar to what it appears that Biden is going through. Both Cenk Ungar and Jon Stewart referenced that fact. I think those of us that have been there wouldn't want someone with the mental issues that we saw our loved ones go through to be POTUS, but we also wouldn't want some bully to humiliate them so for Trump to go on the attack would likely generate a backlash of sympathy for Biden.
KEY BATTLESApplying your polling numbers to Nate Silver's 538 projection (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/):
- 2024 Arizona: Trump vs Biden (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/arizona/trump-vs-biden)
Trump+5.4
(https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/arizona/trump-vs-biden)- 2024 Georgia: Trump vs Biden (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/georgia/trump-vs-biden)
Trump+4.0
(https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/georgia/trump-vs-biden)- 2024 Michigan: Trump vs Biden (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/michigan/trump-vs-biden)
Trump+0.6
(https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/michigan/trump-vs-biden)- 2024 Nevada: Trump vs Biden (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/nevada/trump-vs-biden)
Trump+5.2
(https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/nevada/trump-vs-biden)- 2024 North Carolina: Trump vs Biden (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/north-carolina/trump-vs-biden)
Trump+5.8
(https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/north-carolina/trump-vs-biden)- 2024 Pennsylvania: Trump vs Biden (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-biden)
Trump+5.3
(https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-biden)- 2024 Wisconsin: Trump vs Biden (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/wisconsin/trump-vs-biden)
Trump+2.2
Exactly. Trump has nothing to gain from attacking Biden right now.this has never stopped him before
this has never stopped him beforeFixed.
perhaps he is listening to hishandlerskids?
Applying your polling numbers to Nate Silver's 538 projection (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/):Some interesting points regarding polling:
- NC would give Trump 235 EV's, your poll says he wins there by almost 6%
- GA would give Trump 251 EV's, your poll says he wins there by 4%
- AZ would give Trump 262 EV's, your poll says he wins there by over 5%
- NV would give Trump 268 EV's, your poll says he wins there by over 5%
- PA would give Trump 287 EV's (TIPPING POINT STATE), your poll says he wins there by over 5%
- WI would give Trump 297 EV's, your poll says he wins there by over 2%
- MI would give Trump 312 EV's, your poll says he wins a squeaker there
Exactly. Trump has nothing to gain from attacking Biden right now.Yup
Think of the Democrats like a group of siblings. Siblings can be absolutely SAVAGE to each other. But when someone from outside tries to mess with one of them, they close ranks and fight the outside threat.
Right now Biden is being attacked by fellow Democrats. If Trump gets involved, the Democrats might start fighting against Trump instead of attacking Biden. And then it makes Trump look like [even more of] a bully. Which is a card Trump WILL eventually play IMHO, but there's no need to play it right now.
This is not a thread about Donald Trump, but he's been very quiet lately.This did not age well.
This did not age well.He says stuff at his rallies, but the media attention is MOSTLY on Joe, and DJT is letting that happen without going out with his own interviews for example.
He was very much on the attack last night at his rally in Doral.
This is not a thread about Donald Trump, but he's been very quiet lately.One hand, I’ve already stated my thoughts on the place of any of these people here.
Exactly. Trump has nothing to gain from attacking Biden right now.You get a Yuengling - I just might write you in as The Keg Party Candidate
Think of the Democrats like a group of siblings. Siblings can be absolutely SAVAGE to each other. But when someone from outside tries to mess with one of them, they close ranks and fight the outside threat.
Right now Biden is being attacked by fellow Democrats. If Trump gets involved, the Democrats might start fighting against Trump instead of attacking Biden. And then it makes Trump look like [even more of] a bully. Which is a card Trump WILL eventually play IMHO, but there's no need to play it right now.
Why Biden needs to take Trump out of his re-election effort (msnbc.com) (https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/biden-trump-age-2024-policy-rcna160505)On the bright side, if you have no policy to enact, at least you're not gonna screw things up even worse. I'd take that as a positive.
Pretty damning.
Why Biden needs to take Trump out of his re-election effort (msnbc.com) (https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/biden-trump-age-2024-policy-rcna160505)OK. Good luck. This is just all talk. And "he's" not going to increase taxes on his wealthy donor base.
Pretty damning.
Why Biden needs to take Trump out of his re-election effort (msnbc.com) (https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/biden-trump-age-2024-policy-rcna160505)I've seen similarly horrible campaigns by R's so this is a political take not a partisan one:
Pretty damning.
2024 General Election: Trump vs. Biden Polls | RealClearPolling (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden)I am surprised that you are surprised. This has been standard operating procedure for a long time.
I posted this link on FB AGAIN and again it was removed. I can't imagine why RCP is somehow banned on social media.
I am surprised that you are surprised. This has been standard operating procedure for a long time.They don't allow RCP links to be posted? Any notion as to why? I don't view RCP as being somehow partisan, or spam, or anything else.
They don't allow RCP links to be posted? Any notion as to why? I don't view RCP as being somehow partisan, or spam, or anything else.Censorship.
I post partisan links fairly often with no issue.
2024 General Election: Trump vs. Biden Polls | RealClearPolling (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden)You just posted it on your feed?
I posted this link on FB AGAIN and again it was removed. I can't imagine why RCP is somehow banned on social media.
I linked to RCP twice and it was deleted. I then posted a link to 538 and it stood. Then I commented in that thread with a link to RCP and it's still up.I think a little, but I’ve read that some of the batch deletion stuff happens when a site is catching a bot attack or something.
Is RCP somehow considered conservative?
Pelosi refuses to say she supports Biden as the Democratic nominee (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/10/pelosi-punts-biden-drop-out-rejects-critics-morning-joe.html)She's older than he is! lol
I have a higher number than usual of "friend requests" from "ladies" using the term loosely who are well endowed and scantily clad.Hmmm, I'm getting the same type of friend requests........
I bet it's because I am just that handsome.
I have a higher number than usual of "friend requests" from "ladies" using the term loosely who are well endowed and scantily clad.What baffles me about this is, does anyone fall for it?
I bet it's because I am just that handsome.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4765282-peter-welch-biden-withdraw-senate-democrat/It is interesting that a Senator from Vermont has come out. It isn't like he has any risk of losing to an R in Vermont.
Avalanche.
What baffles me about this is, does anyone fall for it?Probably.
I would think they'd get more requests accepted if they used more realistic women and dressed somewhat sexy but not outright slutty.
What baffles me about this is, does anyone fall for it?apparently, you don't spend much time with the masses
I would think they'd get more requests accepted if they used more realistic women and dressed somewhat sexy but not outright slutty.
Probably.That makes sense and I hadn't thought of that. I was thinking they were just trying to get "friends" for pushing out ads or whatever.
I mean, it also might just be a way to sell an OnlyFans subscription.
I'm watching all of this with baited breath, as it were, a drip drip drip ... wondering when/if the dam will completely break. (I gather that one being eroded survived?).I think this is an area where Democratic media bias backfires and hurts Democrats.
Imagine that the US President really is (mostly) a figurehead. He gets briefed by folks where the decision is already made, by them. The briefing is couched such that only one option appears viable. He's not making decisions. He appoints about 4,000 individuals to positions, 1200 of which require Senate "confirmation" (rubber stamp usually).this doesn't work for "The Donald"
No President has any clue about more than maybe 30 of those. They are made for him, some campaign donor gets Ambassador to Thailand etc.
In other words, his staff makes every decision for him, and perhaps lets him think he's doing something. One could argue he would at least name most of his staff, probably. But if this is the case, anyone could be President if they can smile for the camera and sound semicoherent most of the time. If not, they keep him in the basement of the WH.
Not this bad. I think the torrent will happen tomorrow.It has been going on already. It may get worse, fast. But The Biden camp thinks they bought more time.
Hard to say. Biden clearly isn't out of it and can answer questions and be with it. Which is worse - Biden stumbling over his words and sounding unconfident or Trump spouting utter nonsense in a really confident manner? Pick your senility.It then it goes to policy. Do you want this far left agenda to continue. Vote will be based on that answer for people.
It then it goes to policy. Do you want this far left agenda to continue. Vote will be based on that answer for people.Trump hasn't been able to answer basic questions about policy in five years.
also, you can’t compare Trump to Biden in acuity. No comparison.
Lastly- “Biden can answer questions “ is debatable
trueI don’t know about that. Just look back at the Dem playbook over the last 8-10 years.
Trump is going to be elected President
Biden isn't
Trump can’t answer questions either in my view.He can. Very skillfully ( often with lies, embellishments or exaggeration). He often chooses not to.
Trump hasn't been able to answer basic questions about policy in five years.Same with Biden. That’s why they have kept him hidden away and did this whole cover up.
He can. Very skillfully ( often with lies, embellishments or exaggeration). He often chooses not to.Your lips are turning orange.
He's unconventional, how is he dangerous. Who did he send to jail, how exactly did he engage in lawfare the way this regime has. Trump is the ultimate boogeyman and A hole. Biden is a much bigger danger to me than a WWE type in Trump.I don't think there its a serious way to say Biden engaged in "lawfare"
I don't think there its a serious way to say Biden engaged in "lawfare"This is just denial.
He's unconventional, how is he dangerous. Who did he send to jail, how exactly did he engage in lawfare the way this regime has. Trump is the ultimate boogeyman and A hole. Biden is a much bigger danger to me than a WWE type in Trump.he did incite a riot at the capitol
This is just denial.It's not. There is no coherent argument that Biden is engaging in lawfare against Trump.
It's not. There is no coherent argument that Biden is engaging in lawfare against Trump.There certainly are opinions this is the case. Whether the argument is coherent or not depends on who is judging it.
he did incite a riot at the capitolAnd tried to get his Veep to not accept the certification of the electoral vote.
There certainly are opinions this is the case. Whether the argument is coherent or not depends on who is judging it.Joe Biden's son was charged and convicted by the same DOJ, in fact on charges that many think wouldn't have been brought but for the fact that Biden is his last name. So any argument about that needs to include the Hunter Biden stuff, and because the lawfare accusations are nonsense you get conspiracy theories.
I read somewhere (meaning it may not be true) than some lawyer left the DoJ to assist Bragg in the Trump NY state prosecution, for example. That case always struck me as contrived, not something "no reasonable prosecutor" would bring against someone not in the public eye.
The classified documents case is conflated with the fact Joe also had them in his garage. But Joe is a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,
Hunter's case is obviously quite separate, and probably was forced by public attention. I think any regular citizen might have been charged and then pled the case out, which happened there too until a judge wouldn't accept the plea. Hunter is also up on tax charges as well. Some folks claimed some of them were delayed until the statute of limitations ran out, I don't know for sure if that is a fact.Well, like I said, no coherent argument to be made.
It is obviously possible to have Hunter being charged AND having Trump being charged and the latter being a case of "lawfare", one does not intersect with the other. And Trump was convicted in state court of course, a separate entity.
Anyway, to me, it's all OPINION with very few supportive facts for either OPINION.
Back on point, I sense nobody here thinks Joe has the mental capacity to be President.Honestly, BRAD's point is probably correct. He is old and stumbles over his words and rambles, but that isn't dementia. He seems to know what is going on and be generally coherent.
Joe Biden's son was charged and convicted by the same DOJ, in fact on charges that many think wouldn't have been brought but for the fact that Biden is his last name. So any argument about that needs to include the Hunter Biden stuff, and because the lawfare accusations are nonsense you get conspiracy theories.Now that the laptop has been admitted into a Federal Court as evidence, we all know it's real, including the 51 asshats who penned a letter calling it a Russian hoax (a recurring theme).
Back on point, I sense nobody here thinks Joe has the mental capacity to be President.
Honestly, BRAD's point is probably correct. He is old and stumbles over his words and rambles, but that isn't dementia. He seems to know what is going on and be generally coherent.Admittedly, I probably should have voted "maybe". My response was based on one debate, and I thought it might be an overreaction to a bad performance. More and more is coming out all the time, and it's looking worse and worse for Joe.
The Biden campaign and administration are behind all of Trump's indictments. All of them.Joe Biden, too addle brained to be president, but can orchestrate criminal complaints in multiple jurisdictions at the same time
Joe Biden, too addle brained to be president, but can orchestrate criminal complaints in multiple jurisdictions at the same timeBiden's campaign and administration.
Joe Biden, too addle brained to be president, but can orchestrate criminal complaints in multiple jurisdictions at the same timeBiden is addle-brained and nobody thinks he's master-minding anything behind the scenes. Or in front of them.
Biden is addle-brained and nobody thinks he's master-minding anything behind the scenes. Or in front of them.But that's just putting everyone who does something against Trump in some big bucket and calling it Biden. Lots of people hate Trump who don't have any connection to Biden whatsoever. Like I said, you quickly get into conspiracy theories with this stuff because that's the only way to hold it altogether.
But his handlers, cronies, lackeys, hangers-on, administration, campaigners-- sure, they have the capacity to do it. And the motive.
I'm not saying they ARE doing it, but relying on the logical fallacy of a false dichotomy doesn't really support your stance.
But that's just putting everyone who does something against Trump in some big bucket and calling it Biden. Lots of people hate Trump who don't have any connection to Biden whatsoever. Like I said, you quickly get into conspiracy theories with this stuff because that's the only way to hold it altogether.
There are lots of movements against Trump across lots of jurisdictions among lots of charges.Trump is easily the weakest candidate the Republicans can field, they shouldn't be going out of their way to knock him out.
Is it a single, concentrated mass attack from one mastermind? Maybe not.
To think there's been zero coordination from anyone in Biden's camp or the DNC? I find that... unlikely.
I mean, they'd be pretty terrible at their jobs if they DIDN'T attempt to press whatever advantages they have.
If this is lawfare, the intent is not to Knock Trump out, but to damage him to the point he could be beaten. There is no way to knock him out without use of physical force,or a health issue.Joe Biden cosplaying as Loki
Trump is easily the weakest candidate the Republicans can field, they shouldn't be going out of their way to knock him out.They can't knock him out of the Republican nomination, so they absolutely should be trying to weaken him so that their own highly undesirable candidate can beat him.
They can't knock him out of the Republican nomination, so they absolutely should be trying to weaken him so that their own highly undesirable candidate can beat him.Joe Biden and his campaign engineering multistate criminal investigations and indictments, can't prevent indictment of own kid.
The question is whether Joe has the mental capacity to serve as a real President, making decisions, understanding issues, responding to crises, etc.Honestly, if he can do what he is accused of, engineering all these criminal investigations against Trump, then yes, he is. There isn't even a good argument against it.
No one here has really made any effort to defend him.
Honestly, if he can do what he is accused of, engineering all these criminal investigations against Trump, then yes, he is. There isn't even a good argument against it.No one has accused him of that, here anyway.
No one has accused him of that, here anyway.They have, read above. Gets tiring when people want to speak out of both sides of their mouths all the time. Like politicians.
Honestly, if he can do what he is accused of, engineering all these criminal investigations against Trump, then yes, he is. There isn't even a good argument against it.Why do you continue being deliberately obtuse? Joe Biden can be completely mentally incompetent, and his camp can still be working against Trump.
Why do you continue being deliberately obtuse? Joe Biden can be completely mentally incompetent, and his camp can still be working against Trump.So someone, not Biden, is behind the scenes, engineering criminal investigations in multiple jurisdictions, without leaving any trail, and we should believe that. As I already said, you are now in conspiracy theories. That's why I'm calling it nonsense. Sure, it is theoretically possible, but to believe it you have to be an idiot.
The false dichotomy you continue to present is a logical fallacy, therefore any words uttered beyond it, are meaningless.
It's a way to dodge answering the question posed, which is understandable.I've already said what I've thought, several times.
So someone, not Biden, is behind the scenes, engineering criminal investigations in multiple jurisdictions, without leaving any trail, and we should believe that. As I already said, you are now in conspiracy theories. That's why I'm calling it nonsense. Sure, it is theoretically possible, but to believe it you have to be an idiot.To not see it, you have to be an idiot.
So someone, not Biden, is behind the scenes, engineering criminal investigations in multiple jurisdictions, without leaving any trail, and we should believe that. As I already said, you are now in conspiracy theories. That's why I'm calling it nonsense. Sure, it is theoretically possible, but to believe it you have to be an idiot.
To not see it, you have to be an idiot.No. Trump is charged with state crimes in Georgia and New York, namely by the Fulton County DA and the Manhattan DA. What do those two have in common? They sit in a jurisdiction that overwhelmingly voted against Trump and they almost certainly see these charges as a way to enhance their own political prospects. That's it - you don't need some vast conspiracy here - Trump does a lot of shady crap and they pounced on it.
Continuing to present logical fallacies as a defense, is what demonstrates someone is an idiot.You keep confusing what is theoretically possible as some sort of argument. That isn't an argument. That you can imagine something isn't evidence that it happened.
So, an additional question would be "How can the Biden campaign recover and potentially win the election?"The only feasible way is to make public appearances and not sound addle brained. Not sure that is in the cards.
You have CNN out there going full bore, multiple Democrats in Congress, a ton of folks "behind the scene", even folks on MSNBC now. I don't see any path back to "normalcy" for the campaign where everyone kind of forgets all this or decides it was not much of anything.
Why do you continue being deliberately obtuse? Joe Biden can be completely mentally incompetent, and his camp can still be working against Trump.Isn't that a prerequisite to enter law school plus 15 hrs of watching Mr Haney on Green Acres.
The false dichotomy you continue to present is a logical fallacy, therefore any words uttered beyond it, are meaningless.
I've already said what I've thought, several times.Answer the question Claire,c'mon
Does anyone here believe Biden has the "mental capacity to be President"?How about a lampshade, turnips are living things with feelings
Now, we've had incapacitated presidents before, I think implicit in the question is "effective President", not just a turnip holding the office.
Answer the question Claire,c'monI don't find him to be incompetent in the sense that he doesn't know who people are or what people are talking about. He's old and slow and mixes up names and loses his train of thought. Does that mean he doesn't have the "mental capacity" to be president? Not sure what the standard is for that, but I suppose he does have the mental capacity to be president. But people are clearly concerned about it for good reason, and it ain't going to get better.
But that's just putting everyone who does something against Trump in some big bucket and calling it Biden. Lots of people hate Trump who don't have any connection to Biden whatsoever. Like I said, you quickly get into conspiracy theories with this stuff because that's the only way to hold it altogether.You're overthinking it, Sam.
So, an additional question would be "How can the Biden campaign recover and potentially win the election?"This and this:
You have CNN out there going full bore, multiple Democrats in Congress, a ton of folks "behind the scene", even folks on MSNBC now. I don't see any path back to "normalcy" for the campaign where everyone kind of forgets all this or decides it was not much of anything.
Reading the polls and donor support matters, and will matter a lot. I don't see how Biden can survive all of this, much less be competitive in the election.Are interesting questions but I think you have perhaps underestimated the polarization of the US Electorate.
For that reason I just don't see this getting beyond "striking distance" so I think the election will be at least theoretically competitive.Ai agree entirely with your math. The BG states are the ones that count. They currently poll closely for DJT. Somebody claimed NY state was in play now, I don't agree.
My point here is that I just can't see Trump or any other Republican getting beyond "striking distance" from Biden or any other Democrat. I think the Democrat literally no matter who it is can safely rely on at least the above districts and their 167 EV's. Realistically I think the same applies to NJ, CO, NM, and VA as well and that brings the D (whoever it is) to a minimum of 209 EV's. Maine, New Hampshire, and Minnesota are arguably among that group and if you include them then any D has 225 EV's in the bank before the campaign even starts and thus only needs 45 to win.That's all true. The Democrats could run a cognitively limited old man and the Republicans could run lh320's cat, and both would have a certain floor of safe electoral votes.
For that reason I just don't see this getting beyond "striking distance" so I think the election will be at least theoretically competitive.
You're overthinking it, Sam.Pretty much every convicted criminal ever alleges malicious/selective prosecution so I get where you are coming from. The Comedian Ron White has a joke that his DUI was bogus because "they were stopping every car driving down that sidewalk and that is profiling".
The whole point is that none of the prosecutions are Trump's fault for the wrong he's done and the crimes he's committed. It's all someone else's fault.
If you can't defend his actions, sometimes all you're left with is "malicious/selective prosecution :91:"
However if the Democrats run a cognitively limited old man, they may still be within theoretical "striking distance", but not against any competent Republican candidate. In fact, the only reason anyone thinks Biden might still have any sort of chance is that the Republicans have nominated Donald Trump. They're relying on anti-Trump voters, not pro-Biden voters. (Which admittedly worked in 2020.)I don't think there ever were an appreciable number of voters "excited" about voting FOR Biden.
I don't find him to be incompetent in the sense that he doesn't know who people are or what people are talking about. He's old and slow and mixes up names and loses his train of thought. Does that mean he doesn't have the "mental capacity" to be president? Not sure what the standard is for that, but I suppose he does have the mental capacity to be president. But people are clearly concerned about it for good reason, and it ain't going to get better.I'm trying to view this in as non-partisan a way as I can and I just think this is wishful thinking. I've seen dementia up close and personal and that is what I think we are seeing.
Next I'll move to the GA cases:Fulton County voted 73-26 for Biden, so it isn't HEAVILY democratic. The prosecutor is for Fulton County. This doesn't change your point of course.
I know that at least one prosecutor got tossed for "issues" but beyond that, everything that I have seen has been an effort to prosecute Trump for aggressively pursuing his case. If you use that as the standard, Al Gore and ALL of his minions should STILL be in jail for aggressively pursuing their case in Florida after the 2000 election.
The have Trump on the phone saying "I only need (whatever number) votes." An anti-Trump prosecutor can read that and say "He's trying to create false votes". A Trump defender can look at that and say "He's looking for whatever is available just like Gore was." My issue with the prosecution is that the criminal standard is "Beyond a Reasonable Doubt" and you just don't have that. You've got a question of what he meant and reasonable people can disagree about the answer but to say it is "beyond a reasonable doubt" is a bridge too far. And once again you have a prosecutor from a HEAVILY democratic district pushing the prosecution.
Fulton County voted 73-26 for Biden, so it isn't HEAVILY democratic. The prosecutor is for Fulton County. This doesn't change your point of course.I didn't look it up before I posted, but I'd call 73-26 "HEAVILY". That is damn close to 3:1. It is heavy enough that a Democrat does not have an appreciable chance of losing to a Republican and thus they have no political incentive to appear even-handed.
You're overthinking it, Sam.wow-- a little "out there" for your normally rational posts.
The whole point is that none of the prosecutions are Trump's fault for the wrong he's done and the crimes he's committed. It's all someone else's fault.
If you can't defend his actions, sometimes all you're left with is "malicious/selective prosecution :91:"
I'm trying to view this in as non-partisan a way as I can and I just think this is wishful thinking. I've seen dementia up close and personal and that is what I think we are seeing.I will disagree with you here. To me- and many, he has been mentally declining, rapidly, for years. Obvious. And here is where it is a problem for him:
I will say that, having seen it, it is fairly likely that Biden actually IS fully competent most of the time and just has these lapses where he doesn't know what year it is (saying a few days ago that he'll beat Trump in 2020), who his is introducing (Introducing Zelensky as Putin and Harris as Trump), etc.
As I see it, there are two problems with that:
- As unlikely as it is, there *MIGHT* be a serious nuclear attack. Let's say Putin gets pissed about us arming his enemy and interfering in his neighborhood and nukes a USN CAG in the North Sea. What is NSA supposed to do if they tell Biden and he tells them to go ask President Eisenhower what to do? (I'm lifting the President Eisenhower part from personal experience because at one point my dad (born in 1940) that that IKE (left office in 1961) was President).
- Dementia gets worse and Biden is running for a four year term that ends 4.5 years from now.
I will disagree with you here. To me- and many, he has been mentally declining, rapidly, for years. Obvious. And here is where it is a problem for him:I said somewhere in one of these threads that I truly believe that this is a case of the pro-Democrat media bias backfiring and HURTING Democrats. Follow me here:
-it has been covered up ( I loved the headline on CNN the other day "Top Dems Furious over Biden's condition being Hidden from them") The White House staff called unedited videos of his stumble and falls and freezing "deepfakes" right up to the debate.
-who is running things?
wow-- a little "out there" for your normally rational posts.
I hate the guy- as I have said a million times. He is Egotistical, bombastic, narcissistic, and has diarrhea of the mouth. But I am not convinced he committed a single crime.
When the "prosecutions" are made up, (just like the impeachment hoaxes') he does have a right to cry foul. And you cant deny the MSM and Dem Party have tried their best to "get him" with things that have proven to be corrupt in their intentions and "evidence." Just like the Dem talking point "nobody is above the law" :57:He cries foul at EVERYTHING. It's pathological. He's never been held to account and so whenever someone tries to hold him to account for anything, he decries it as the most unfair treatment that anyone has experienced in human history.
Except appointing a civilian (jack Smith) to investigate with unlimited authority and subpoena power and prosecute Trump is WAYYY outside the law. There is no law or legislation or constitutional precedent to even allow something that obviously political and illegal. That's Banana Republic stuff. Talk about a threat to democracy. I think that's why the recent poll I saw had Trump as less a threat to democracy than Biden.
I wish to disagree. But I can’t.I can. And do. When your convicting him of molesting someone in a department store, and the videos indicate neither party was even there, then your too biased to even converse with.
Only because I see people bending themselves into pretzels to excuse Trump, despite so many of them (esp. on this board) admitting what a foul, horrible person he is.This post is filled with fallacies and untruths, from top to bottom. You win.
Well, he's already lost two high-profile civil cases. One for defamation and one for his company's fraudulence. And while you may not be convinced he committed a single crime, a jury of 12 unanimously convicted him of 34 felony counts.
And notice in the latter case, the facts weren't really at issue. Cheated on his wife with a porn star, paid her hush money to cover it up. Nobody except Trump himself seems to deny the sex, and not even he can deny the hush money. The question, then, is whether it is a crime. And Trump apologists bend themselves into pretzels saying sure, he had sex with a porn star and paid her off to keep quiet so it wouldn't affect his campaign, but is that really a crime?
Now he's got a case for classified documents. It might be one thing if someone asked him for all his Presidential records and it turned out there were a handful of classified docs in there. But it went a lot farther. There is (if the indictment is to be believed, and admittedly indictments are the most damning possible reading of the facts) a deliberate effort to keep and cover up the existence of more classified documents after they were already requested, up to and including an FBI raid that found boxes full of them. That goes to intent. Not an oversight. You're saying that's not a crime?
Conspiring to submit a slate of fraudulent electors from a couple of the states in question in the 2020 election? You're cool with that one? Not a crime?
The Jan 6 stuff is murky because the legal bar for "incitement" is high, but given what he did say on Jan 6, you think he's above investigation/prosecution? You're definitively going to say it wasn't a crime?
He cries foul at EVERYTHING. It's pathological. He's never been held to account and so whenever someone tries to hold him to account for anything, he decries it as the most unfair treatment that anyone has experienced in human history.
And the impeachment "hoax"? The man was extorting valid aid that Congress had appropriated for Ukraine in order to get Ukraine to announce an investigation into Biden. You want to talk about "lawfare"? What exactly was that, then? It was basically the textbook definition of quid pro quo. "You do this personal/political favor for me, and then I'll stop blocking the aid that Congress already said you were due."
Only one of them has denied the results of a United States Presidential Election--and continues to do so. Only one of them has conspired in multiple plots to obstruct the certification of the votes in certain battleground states. Only one of them has conspired to submit slates of fraudulent electors to throw the election results into disarray. Only one of them has attempted to strongarm his VP, the presider over the certification of the election, to abdicate his responsibility and throw it to the HoR. And when that didn't work, only one of them has tried to get his lackeys in Congress to object to the specific states electoral vote counts to overturn the election and throw it to the HoR. And only one of them, when none of that worked and he was surrounded by people erecting gallows and wanting to hang Mike Pence, exhorted them to go down to the Capitol building and "fight or you won't have a country anymore"... And that's what they did.
Only one of them has said he wants to be a dictator on day one. Only one of them says he deserves not just to be elected again, but "a third term" because it's so unfair that one was "stolen" from him.
There was a big legal fight in 2000. It came down to SCOTUS. But in the end, Al Gore accepted and conceded defeat. Trump had 60 court cases over the election, many of which were under Republican-appointed judges. As I recall, he lost 59 of them. He lost. And to this day, he won't admit it. Again, it's pathological. He fears "losing" so much that he can't fathom that any election he loses isn't rigged.
This post is filled with fallacies and untruths, from top to bottom. You win.Fine. Let's limit it, then, to the time between election day and January 6.
Only because I see people bending themselves into pretzels to excuse Trump, despite so many of them (esp. on this board) admitting what a foul, horrible person he is.newsflash: Joe Biden is a foul, horrible person as well who has done INFINITELY more damage to people in this country and across the globe than Trump could ever dream of doing. Black people are locked up in this country at VASTLY disproportionate rates because of: Joe "I wrote the damn crime bills" Biden. Many of whom for doing nothing but the same thing as his crackhead son: being addicted to crack cocaine. Joe Biden has vehemently supported every single god damn war that this country has fought in the last 50 or so years, including Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan. Joe Biden has been actively full-stop supporting mass slaughter and ethnic cleansing in Gaza over the past 9 months. The Lancet journal just came out and said a conservative estimate of the actual death toll there is something around 186,000 people dead. Joe Biden ran point in the Obama administration for Ukraine policy and was involved the US overthrowing a democratically elected government in Ukraine. How'd that turn out for the world? Uh, not great. Trump looks like a saint compared to someone like Biden for the simple fact he hasn't been in power long enough to do the kind of very real damage and destruction that Biden's policies have contributed to over the course of FIFTY years.
Except appointing a civilian (jack Smith) to investigate with unlimited authority and subpoena power and prosecute Trump is WAYYY outside the law. There is no law or legislation or constitutional precedent to even allow something that obviously political and illegal. That's Banana Republic stuff. Talk about a threat to democracy. I think that's why the recent poll I saw had Trump as less a threat to democracy than Biden.It's this kind of "heads we win tails you lose" logic that Trump excels at. My ex-wife loved that too - maybe that's why I'm so sensitive to it.
I said somewhere in one of these threads that I truly believe that this is a case of the pro-Democrat media bias backfiring and HURTING Democrats. Follow me here:I don't disagree at all. Liberal types often go way out of their way to avoid having any type of actual debate/conflict. A lot of Poindexter types in there, especially among the political people. I've spent a lot of time with them, and they tend to be extremely cocky in their methods, far past what their results would show. Though I can't complain too much - trial lawyers can be the same way.
Suppose the situation were reversed: An 81 year old Republican in significant cognitive decline was in the WH and seeking re-election. His decline would have been BEATEN into us for the past four years. SNL's "News" would have been running "Biden forgets what year it is" and "Biden forgets he is President" jokes for the past four years. That would have led to a seriously contested Republican Primary. With a seriously contested primary, the debate debacle would have happened at a Primary debate and the Republican incumbent would have lost the Primary. He would now be a lame duck serving out his term.
Instead, the media treated Trump's "sleepy Joe" comments and the like as COMPLETELY baseless and failed to look into it AT ALL. Thus, there was no serious Democratic Primary, Biden didn't have to face Primary Debates and consequently the debacle didn't happen until a point in the cycle where it was too late to replace him through the Primary process and possibly too late to replace him period.
It's this kind of "heads we win tails you lose" logic that Trump excels at. My ex-wife loved that too - maybe that's why I'm so sensitive to it.There is no statutory authority. It’s never been done. It’s a made up process. Just like the fake felony in New York.
The entire point of a special prosecutor is to put a layer of distance between Biden's DOJ and the Trump investigation. Obviously Biden, and by extension his appointees, have a vested interest in Biden winning. So appointing a special prosecutor, especially a civilian, who isn't beholden to Biden is a way to rectify that conflict of interest.
Now, Trump is making the argument that there is no statutory authority to appoint such a special counsel. Fine, he can make the argument. But to call it "WAYYY outside the law," "obviously political and illegal," or "Banana Republic stuff' is goofy. If he didn't appoint such a special counsel, Trump would be arguing that obviously there is a conflict of interest and a special counsel needs to be appointed. Tails I win and heads you lose.
There is no statutory authority. It’s never been done. It’s a made up process. Just like the fake felony in New York.There have been many special counsel appointments. Jack Smith pointed out several made by William Barr. Trump made similar arguments about Robert Mueller, himself a special counsel.
And it isn’t Trump making the argument. It ever unbiased legal scholar that has opined.
There have been many special counsel appointments. Jack Smith pointed out several made by William Barr. Trump made similar arguments about Robert Mueller, himself a special counsel.You did not just make that comparison….
You did not just make that comparison….???
Again, it's pathological. He fears "losing" so much that he can't fathom that any election he loses isn't rigged.Don't forget, he preemptively said the election he accidently won was rigged, too. People seem to forget that.
and we all get to listen to 4 more years of Trump because Joe Biden doesn't have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US.The revisionist history is Hillary arious.
and we all get to listen to 4 more years of Trump because Joe Biden doesn't have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US.That’s the popular take.
One very useful attribute for a President is being articulate. A President can better LEAD by framing issues and proposed solutions in an articulate manner. It's more readily accepted. I used to think Jimmy Carter gave good speeches, if you read them, but they were not very good if you listened to him. Obama, to me, was the reverse, he sounded good, but if I read the text, I'd often wonder what point he was making.Say again?
Another of course is being liked, admired, respected, etc., and having a decent popularity figure. Were I President, I'd list three things, and focus on getting them done, visibly, and when one was done, I'd add another, etc. And I'd use the Bully Pulpit, a lot. I think I could present my case reasonably well on key issues and that would be more likely to drag Congress along and thereby get a thing done, maybe not exactly as I wished, but fairly close.
Anyway .....
And yet our two choices for the office are the guy whose best day is incomprehensible verbal diarrhea that sprays all over the place and stinks, and the guy who can't string together a sentence that proves he knows who and where he is.Vice President Trump begs to differ.
Say again?😂😂
Drink!
I think Harris would do better than Biden. It would instantly eliminate the major issue in question (and bring up some lesser ones that could be countered). She has some, well, flaws, that perhaps could be remedied with coaching.Bingo.
I can't see a downside, other than finding the process to get there. They need/have to turn attention back to DJT.
That's all true. The Democrats could run a cognitively limited old man and the Republicans could run lh320's cat, and both would have a certain floor of safe electoral votes.(https://i.imgur.com/QnorCbg.png)
However if the Democrats run a cognitively limited old man, they may still be within theoretical "striking distance", but not against any competent Republican candidate. In fact, the only reason anyone thinks Biden might still have any sort of chance is that the Republicans have nominated Donald Trump. They're relying on anti-Trump voters, not pro-Biden voters. (Which admittedly worked in 2020.)
(https://i.imgur.com/QnorCbg.png)Dems hoping votes will be counted, Republicans trying to prevent that
Dems hoping votes will be counted, Republicans trying to prevent thatTrue. That box was probably in Venezuela.
That is why he was already behind.Biden was behind IMHO largely because of inflation.
Biden was behind IMHO largely because of inflation.That and seemingly the narrative where people born males wanted to tinkle,change and compete with girls was ushered in with him. Oh and the treasonous horshit at the border as the people in power implimenting it live in their gated communities
That and seemingly the narrative where people born males wanted to tinkle,change and complete with girls was ushered in with him. Oh and the treasonous horshit at the border as ther people in power implimenting it live in their gated communitiesEh. I don't think there are many people who were "on the fence" regarding this election who are going to base their vote on how each candidate wants to treat trans people. And I think that issue is tied to general wokeness, which IMHO Biden has largely avoided.
MILWAUKEE (AP) — The Republican National Committee moved Monday to adopt a party platform that reflects former President Donald Trump’s position opposing a federal abortion ban and ceding limits to states, omitting the explicit basis for a national ban for the first time in 40 years.
Trump imposed his priorities on the RNC’s platform committee as he seeks to steer clear during his campaign of strict abortion language, even while taking credit for setting up the 2022 reversal of Roe v. Wade by the Supreme Court. Trump appointed three of the six justices who voted in the majority to overturn the 1973 precedent that established a national right to have an abortion.
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/04/trumps-false-claim-about-roe/Exactly. He wants credit from his base for getting rid of Roe, but knows a federal abortion ban is (and most state bans are) a losing issue at the ballot box so he doesn't want to scare people who care about such things into voting for the other guy based on a single issue.
He tries to play both sides.
That and seemingly the narrative where people born males wanted to tinkle,change and complete with girls was ushered in with him. Oh and the treasonous horshit at the border as ther people in power implimenting it live in their gated communitiesI think that first one predated him. I also find it funny because if you designed a Dem in a lab who would be disconnected from that issue, it would probably looks something like that fella. But it seems unlikely someone super high profile on either side can outrun the more incendiary stuff these days.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrat-push-replace-biden-trump-assassination-attempt-presidents-allies-say-reportThat would be a good thing. Best to have the people that made the bed sleep in it.
Biden allies say this ends the debate around Joe’s cognitive ability.