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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2024, 08:24:42 AM
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I don't expect this thread to get too much play, but there is no other place to put this. Kind of an oopsie that the AD didn't find a home for his team before they started ripping their stadium part.
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Will make for good tv viewing
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Lots of gale storms in October/November. Could get ugly on The Lake if those happen.
Last fall there were a few, and there was one that produced 22 foot waves out of the NE.
That's a +/- 60 MPH wind.
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Mistake By the Lake 2.0.
Also...
https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1775285208272515565
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UNL not visiting in 24 or 25 or 26
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I seem to remember a minimum seating capacity requirement around 40K for D1 schools back in the day. I guess that requirement did not carry into FBS.
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This is temporary. Probably be fine there.
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I seem to remember a minimum seating capacity requirement around 40K for D1 schools back in the day. I guess that requirement did not carry into FBS.
I just looked it up. No current stadium size requirement, but they DO have to average 15K attendance over a rolling two-year period.
Incidentally I thought the same as you that there was a minimum stadium seating capacity requirement (and I think there was), but I had thought it was 35K, which this new stadium would just barely clear.
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Been to a lot of games in the old place.
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It's not clear to me if NW has finalized any plans for NW home games in 2024.
Its one thing to use temporary facilities along the lakefront for things like Lacrosse, but that could be bad look for NW home football games. I think one thing NW may still be waiting for is the exact dates of the NFL home games in 2024. Rumor has it that Soldier Field is trying to charge high rents, but also the Bears and Fire get first choice of dates.
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If I had to guess, if the temporary lakefront plan does not work out the backup plan will be for NW to play it's home football games at the following
Miami—oh, Aug31. My guess this game will get moved to Sun Sep1 and will be played at Soldier Field
Duke, Sep7, SeatGeek Stadium in Bridgeview, IL
EIU, Sep 14, SeatGeek Stadium
Indiana, Oct5, SeatGeek Stadium
Wisc, Oct19, Lambau Field in Green Bay, Wisc
Ohio St, Nov16, Wrigley Field, Homecoming
Illinois, Nov 30, Soldier Field
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I seem to remember a minimum seating capacity requirement around 40K for D1 schools back in the day. I guess that requirement did not carry into FBS.
It would have to be FBS. Most FCS stadiums are nowhere near that. Take SUU, for example.
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Although it does appear as though the portion of the grandstands containing the press boxes would have been installed around the time they moved up to FCS in the 20-ots, seemingly to reach some sort of minimum required capacity for FCS.
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It's not clear to me if NW has finalized any plans for NW home games in 2024.
Its one thing to use temporary facilities along the lakefront for things like Lacrosse, but that could be bad look for NW home football games. I think one thing NW may still be waiting for is the exact dates of the NFL home games in 2024. Rumor has it that Soldier Field is trying to charge high rents, but also the Bears and Fire get first choice of dates.
It is done. They are playing on the Lakefront with a temporary stadium.
They failed on this. They should have had everything in line before they wrecked Ryan Field. Instead, they are at the mercy of everyone with a stadium, and they were all asking too much.
Lambeau actually could have happened, but their big donors were not about to give Wisconsin a home game. That's where the money came from to build the temporary facility on The Lake.
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It is done. They are playing on the Lakefront with a temporary stadium.
They failed on this. They should have had everything in line before they wrecked Ryan Field. Instead, they are at the mercy of everyone with a stadium, and they were all asking too much.
Lambeau actually could have happened, but their big donors were not about to give Wisconsin a home game. That's where the money came from to build the temporary facility on The Lake.
Well, the most recent article just says most of the football games will be played at the temporary stadium, but it is not sure all 7 games will be,. For the 3 OOC games, they probably won't get a lot of fans anyway, and the weather will be nice in Sep, so might as well play those 3 games at the temporary stadium.
I predict Ohio St will still be at Wrigley Field since it's late enough in the year to be after the Cubs are done, and the game will bring a lot of fans.
Bret Belima is on record that he does not like Wrigley, which makes me think the Illinois game will be at Soldier Field on Thanksgiving weekend. The students will all be home that weekend anyway. Plus Soldier Field is built to handle cold weather if it is cold that day.
For Wisconsin, that game should bring a lot of fans. They need a larger stadium for that game. If not Lambau, then Soldier Field makes the most sense to me.
The other Big Ten game is Indiana. Previously NW had confirmed that was going to be at SeatGeek Stadium. But Bridgeview is actually not that close to Evanston. So I doubt they would have got many fans at SeatGeek. So they might as well play Indiana at the temporary stadium.
Anyway, that's my prediction. The Ohio St, Illinois and Wisc games will not be played at the temporary stadium. We will see.
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Wouldn't surprise me to see OSU and Wisconsin AD's pony up to play in a larger stadium and take a percentage of the gate. I don't know about Illinois, and I don't think NU gives a crap about what Bert thinks. ;)
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https://nusports.com/news/2024/5/15/northwestern-announces-2024-football-schedule
Northwestern officially announced the location of its 7 home games today.
It's last 2 home games in November against Ohio St and Illinois will both be played at Wrigley Field.
It's first 5 home games will be played at the temporary field in Evanston. Miami-Oh, Duke, EIU, Indiana, and Wisc.
Of these the one that really surprised me was Wisconsin. I thought for sure, they would try to play that game in a bigger stadium.
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They didn't want to go to Lambeau Field.
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They should play every game on that practice field
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They should play every game on that practice field in the micro-stadium.
They have been for years.
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Of these the one that really surprised me was Wisconsin. I thought for sure, they would try to play that game in a bigger stadium.
WRT Wrigley, I assume that it is about the Baseball schedule:
Northwestern "hosts" Wisconsin on October 19 then has road games at Iowa and Purdue on October 26 and November 2 then a week off (11/9) then "hosts" Ohio State on November 16.
MLB Schedule:
- September 29: Last day of the regular season
- October 1-3: Wildcard
- October 5-12: Divisional Series
- October 13-22: LCS
- October 25-November 2: World Series
That game against Wisconsin is in the midst of the LCS and only a week after the end of the Divisional Series. Obviously that wouldn't work if the Cubs made it to the NCLS but even if they lost in the Divisional Series that would be an awfully quick turnaround to get Wrigley ready for football in a week.
The Ohio State game is so late that even if the Cubs ended up hosting a WS Game 7, they would still have two full weeks to get Wrigley ready for the football game and of course the NU/IL game is two weeks after that.
Back before they built Jacobs Field in Cleveland, the Browns and Indians used to both play in Cleveland Municipal Stadium but it was HUMONGOUS so it wasn't all that difficult. Still, I remember as a kid watching Browns Games where the base path was visible on the field. They just striped over it with yard lines and switched sports. It isn't as easy for Wrigley where it isn't really big enough for football and they don't do it all the time.
The Miami OH (8/31), Dook (9/7), and EIU (9/14) "home" games are during the MLB regular season:
- On 8/31 when Northwestern plays Dook the Cubs will be playing the penultimate game of a long road swing but they host the Pirates at Wrigley two days later on Monday, September 2.
- On 9/7 when Northwestern plays Dook the Cubs will be hosting the Yankees at Wrigley.
- On 9/14 when Northwestern plays EIU the Cubs will be in Colorado but the Cubs have home games six days earlier (9/8 vs Yankees) and two days later (9/16 vs Athletics).
Indiana (10/5) is the first day of the MLB Divisional Series and only six days after the Cubs' last regular season home game (9/29 vs Reds).
That just leaves Wisconsin (10/19), Ohio State (11/16), and Illinois (11/30). The Ohio State and Illinois games are after MLB and they are already scheduled at Wrigley.
The only game left to consider is Wisconsin and (see above) that one is in the midst of the MLB Playoffs. I would guess that if they suck this year, the Wisconsin game will get moved to Wrigley as soon as the Cubs are eliminated from the MLB Playoffs.
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WRT Wrigley, I assume that it is about the Baseball schedule:
Northwestern "hosts" Wisconsin on October 19 then has road games at Iowa and Purdue on October 26 and November 2 then a week off (11/9) then "hosts" Ohio State on November 16.
MLB Schedule:
- September 29: Last day of the regular season
- October 1-3: Wildcard
- October 5-12: Divisional Series
- October 13-22: LCS
- October 25-November 2: World Series
That game against Wisconsin is in the midst of the LCS and only a week after the end of the Divisional Series. Obviously that wouldn't work if the Cubs made it to the NCLS but even if they lost in the Divisional Series that would be an awfully quick turnaround to get Wrigley ready for football in a week.
The Ohio State game is so late that even if the Cubs ended up hosting a WS Game 7, they would still have two full weeks to get Wrigley ready for the football game and of course the NU/IL game is two weeks after that.
Back before they built Jacobs Field in Cleveland, the Browns and Indians used to both play in Cleveland Municipal Stadium but it was HUMONGOUS so it wasn't all that difficult. Still, I remember as a kid watching Browns Games where the base path was visible on the field. They just striped over it with yard lines and switched sports. It isn't as easy for Wrigley where it isn't really big enough for football and they don't do it all the time.
The Miami OH (8/31), Dook (9/7), and EIU (9/14) "home" games are during the MLB regular season:
- On 8/31 when Northwestern plays Dook the Cubs will be playing the penultimate game of a long road swing but they host the Pirates at Wrigley two days later on Monday, September 2.
- On 9/7 when Northwestern plays Dook the Cubs will be hosting the Yankees at Wrigley.
- On 9/14 when Northwestern plays EIU the Cubs will be in Colorado but the Cubs have home games six days earlier (9/8 vs Yankees) and two days later (9/16 vs Athletics).
Indiana (10/5) is the first day of the MLB Divisional Series and only six days after the Cubs' last regular season home game (9/29 vs Reds).
That just leaves Wisconsin (10/19), Ohio State (11/16), and Illinois (11/30). The Ohio State and Illinois games are after MLB and they are already scheduled at Wrigley.
The only game left to consider is Wisconsin and (see above) that one is in the midst of the MLB Playoffs. I would guess that if they suck this year, the Wisconsin game will get moved to Wrigley as soon as the Cubs are eliminated from the MLB Playoffs.
Now that it's published, Wisconsin would have to approve that move.
I suspect they would as they could bring more fans.
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Now that it's published, Wisconsin would have to approve that move.
I suspect they would as they could bring more fans.
I assumed that, but who would object? I mean, Wisconsin has a lot of fans in the Chicagoland area anyway and Wrigley is an institution. Honestly the Ohio State/Northwestern game being at Wrigley makes me want to go to Chicago but I can't with four little kids.
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I'd consider it if they were playing at Sox Park.
Wrigley is a dump.
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FWIW:
Demand at Wrigley appears to be sky-high. Here are Ohio State's 2024 games arranged by the "get in" price per the Worldwide leader:
- $47 vs WMU
- $48 vs Akron
- $54 vs Marshall
- $58 vs Indiana
- $64 vs Purdue
- $95 vs Nebraska
- $98 vs Iowa
- $142 at MSU
- $189 at Penn State
- $303 at Northwestern
- $307 vs Michigan
- $338 at Oregon
The 11 Illinois games not played at Wrigley range from $5 (vs CMU) to $54 (vs Michigan) but the game against Northwestern at Wrigley is $130.
It is similar for the Wildcats. The Ohio State game at Wrigley is almost twice as expensive as their second highest ($173 for vs Wisconsin) and almost five times as expensive as their game in Ann Arbor ($66).
Obviously some of this is that Wiconsin and Ohio State bring a lot more fans than most opponents but I think getting to see a game at Wrigley is an added draw that is propping up the price for the games played there.
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Just a novelty. It's a dump, and the neighborhood is not what it once was (safe).
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Just a novelty. It's a dump, and the neighborhood is not what it once was (safe).
Understand here that you have a much different perspective than the average Ohio State fan who might travel to Chicago.
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Of course I do.
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Big Ten Coaches Talk Anonymously About Conference Foes for 2024
Northwestern
“David Braun might go down as one of the best interim head coaches in the history of the game. What he was able to do to keep that locker room committed and the culture going after [Pat] Fitzgerald was really remarkable."
"Really curious how the [Zach] Lujan hire at offensive coordinator works out for them. SDSU ran a lot of motion and shift and did a good job tailoring to the roster, and that’s something that Northwestern has really struggled with over the last few seasons."
"This is a team in desperate need of a consistent offensive identity they can recruit to.”
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I see the Duke at NW game in week 2, that will played at NW's temporary stadium, has been moved to Friday night at 9pm.
This game has potential issues written all over it. The residents of Evanston are not going to be happy with the Friday night game time. The temporary facilities will be only be used for the 2nd time and still might have some bugs that need working out, and this time it will require lights as well.
But it might still might work out fine with no problems. Fans may stay away because it's Friday night and because it's such an odd setup. It's still early in the year and cold weather will not be a problem. So it may be no big deal.
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So it may be no big deal.
I don’t think it will be a big deal. I remember when Fox starting forcing Friday broadcasts a few years ago there was lots of talk about how Friday night kickoffs would cut into the attention for high school action in state's like Iowa where high school football is emphasized across the smaller towns. It seemed Iowa, Nebraska, Penn State fans were most vocal against this. And as it turns out, haven’t most of the Friday night broadcasts taken place at schools like Maryland, Indiana, Illinois, and Minnesota? Where high school football might not be as big of hometown draw? Evanston has major high school sports but if it's only one Friday they've got to worry about - no big deal.
Posting another lakeside pic below because NW's temp setup looks pretty nifty:
https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1796236925872824541
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Posting another lakeside pic below because NW's temp setup looks pretty nifty:
It's also gonna be flooded when those Lake Michigan gales start happening. I've seen waves as high as 27 feet on occasion.
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Earlier this week ESPN published a long-form feature on the story behind Northwestern’s temporary, shoreside stadium:
“Boosted by "a major six-figure commitment" from the Brauns, the university green-lit the temporary stadium in early April. The Wildcats will play most of their 2024 and 2025 home games, including several Big Ten contests, at the revamped facility, just yards from the shores of Lake Michigan. The team will play its first five home contests, including Indiana and Wisconsin, at the temporary stadium, before finishing with Ohio State and Illinois at Wrigley Field in Chicago.”
"The temporary field, officially Lanny and Sharon Martin Stadium, will feature nearly double the amount of premium seating area as Ryan Field did, and 16 semi-private suites, which will help offset the revenue loss of the much smaller venue. Situated on a large lakefill that hosted ESPN's College GameDay in 2013, the area can accommodate a tailgate village and different spaces to rent, right beside the lake."
https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1812856950289223899
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Kind of jealous Michigan won't get to play there.
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https://www.dailyherald.com/20240724/chicago-cubs/odonnell-if-cubs-stay-sunk-northwestern-could-get-third-wrigley-game/
Neither athletic department will confirm it. But, through appropriate sourcing, The Daily Herald has learned the NU-Badgers game will be switched to Wrigley Field if the Cubs are clearly out of postseason contention no later than the weekend of Sept. 21-22.
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https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1858495859157025096
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That's going to be really nice.
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The hordes of visiting fans are really going to love it.
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Wiggly Field was pretty damn red on Saturday.
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The hordes of visiting fans are really going to love it.
That's why I think right sizing it makes sense, and really should be the future of most stadiums
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The key is making the stadium experience better than watching on TV at home.
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The key is making the stadium experience better than watching on TV at home.
Doesn't have to just be better, it has to be how ever many dollars better
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I'd pay to go to a game there.
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I would to.
If the Huskers were playin, I thought the Big Red had a chance to win, and if I happened to be in the area
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It's too bad there are no purple teams in the B1G, to help them make their stadium look full of NU fans on a brochure.
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It's too bad there are no purple teams in the B1G, to help them make their stadium look full of NU fans on a brochure.
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Meh. Doubtful they travel to Chicago for NU.
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Moving the goalposts, are we? O0
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For all I know, NU's colors are black now. Looked that way last week in Wiggly.