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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: 847badgerfan on November 24, 2023, 04:56:00 PM
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Remember grade school geography? This was part of the teaching in my early days.
M.I.M.A.L. is:
(https://i.imgur.com/orneyrK.png)
Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas and Louisiana.
Take those 5 states alone.
Minnesota
Iowa
Iowa State
Missouri
LSU
Add in states to the West of M.I.M.A.L. and you get
Nebraska
Kansas
KSU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Not a bad 12 team conference at all.
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We just noticed that they looked like a chef.
(https://i.imgur.com/zavOnc9.jpg)
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I remember on the first day of school in 9th grade, we were quizzed when we sat down, list the 50 states and capitals and anybody who got a 100% could skip the first unit. (in retrospect, I don't understand why that was advisable, I basically sat there and worked on other stuff for two weeks while the rest of the class did a geography unit). I filled in my quiz and handed it to him (the smug communist, seriously, he was, he talked about it openly) 'here's the answer key mr. mueller.'
never understood the fuss with all these mnemonic devices and the like folks used. It's the freaking U.S. I live here, driven all over the place. didn't everyone sit in the back seat studying the Rand McNally, playing games with your siblings to pass the time? (ex. what's a longer distance; Detroit to Atlanta or Des Moines to Denver......Then we would ask, what Interstate are you taking.
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Flying made me aware of distances. I'd fly Cincy to Denver en route to LA and figure we had another hour's flight time.
Or Cincy to LAX and then to Hawaii, figuring the flight to Hawaii was a couple hours.
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I've always loved maps.
Any thoughts on the conference the above map yielded?
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That conference would be great. Just about anything would be better than where we're headed.
I used to pore over maps as well, especially when Interstates were being built. I'd draw "my" proposed new highways on maps. I'd draw interchanges on blank paper. I wanted to be a civil engineer for the longest time. Then I figured you needed to be smart to be an engineer.
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When you were drawing your interstate maps, did you take topography into account?
Bridges are expensive.
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Yes, I did, I usually tried to minimize bridges in my interchanges. The full cloverleaf was popular then but doesn't manage heavy traffic well today.
Most around here were partial cloverleaf designs and are now being rebuilt (at great expense) with more bridges. It takes forever it seems. We pass through one every other week going north.
It's amazing to me how much design has to go into rebuilding an interchange with traffic considerations. I like walking by buildings here UC and seeing how they do it all.
(16) Atlanta | SkyscraperCity Forum (https://www.skyscrapercity.com/forums/atlanta.804/)
This site includes a lot of photos of buildings going up. It's fun. Below is the interchange we plow through, I'm sure this is very common around the US.
(https://i.imgur.com/DRYgGLf.png)
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In my experience, Maintenance of Traffic is one of the most challenging aspects of roadway design and construction.
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Along with construction during high traffic periods, I'm sure. They work through the day, and night, and have to bring in "stuff" to do the work.
It's amazing to me, humans can do a lot of stuff when we're not blowing things up.
There is a concrete plant north of us doing some significant business these days. The amount of concrete and steel needed in construction is amazing. There are 10 significantly sized buildings going up within a mile of us. They often have concrete trucks lined up in a queue when they are pouring.
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Anyway, I'd much prefer conferences be geographically "centered" and plausible.
The SEC is contiguous, so far, anyway. The Pac 3 is too!
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We just noticed that they looked like a chef.
(https://i.imgur.com/zavOnc9.jpg)
To cook livestock brains and tripe proper - they better be
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There is a concrete plant north of us doing some significant business these days. The amount of concrete and steel needed in construction is amazing. There are 10 significantly sized buildings going up within a mile of us. They often have concrete trucks lined up in a queue when they are pouring.
Damn Uncle Billy wasn't dicking around they're still rebuilding
(https://i.imgur.com/1KRFGOy.png)
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It's amazing to me, humans can do a lot of stuff when we're not blowing things up.
There is a concrete plant north of us doing some significant business these days. The amount of concrete and steel needed in construction is amazing. There are 10 significantly sized buildings going up within a mile of us. They often have concrete trucks lined up in a queue when they are pouring.
This book...
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In my experience, Maintenance of Traffic is one of the most challenging aspects of roadway design and construction.
Indeed. On top of that, staging during road construction is one of the least quantifiable things in the business. It's far more of an art than a science, especially in constrained areas under high volume.
During the recent reconstruction of I-35W south of downtown Minneapolis, the staging plan over 5 years of construction was almost as big as the construction plan.
There's a reason why contractors usually set up their own batch plants on concrete paving projects: sheer volume. 1 cubic yard of concrete advances a 28-foot slip former a little more than a foot, depending on the thickness of the slab. Add in that a road paving crew can put down almost a mile a day, and most commercial plants can't deliver that much concrete that fast.
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Damn Uncle Billy wasn't dicking around they're still rebuilding
Atlanta has been infamous for tearing down buildings of historical significance. That changed a bit when the Fox Theater was saved. Southern Bell wanted it for a parking lot. And of course like many cities it's famous for adding lanes to interstates and then wondering why the traffic was only better for a month.
The longest bridge in the state today is for a toll road running parallel to I-75 NW of ATL.
Meanwhile, all the monies for freeways can't be used to expand rapid transit.
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This concrete thing is pretty amazing.
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Atlanta has been infamous for tearing down buildings of historical significance. That changed a bit when the Fox Theater was saved.
Skynyrd's "One More for the Road" Album was recorded there in '76.Not the ABB "Live at the Fillmore East" but damn close
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Indeed. On top of that, staging during road construction is one of the least quantifiable things in the business. It's far more of an art than a science, especially in constrained areas under high volume.
During the recent reconstruction of I-35W south of downtown Minneapolis, the staging plan over 5 years of construction was almost as big as the construction plan.
There's a reason why contractors usually set up their own batch plants on concrete paving projects: sheer volume. 1 cubic yard of concrete advances a 28-foot slip former a little more than a foot, depending on the thickness of the slab. Add in that a road paving crew can put down almost a mile a day, and most commercial plants can't deliver that much concrete that fast.
I was hoping you would weigh in. You @GopherRock (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=47) are a lot more in tune with the DOT stuff than I am. My last resident engineer project was in 1996. Things have changed since then, drastically, including the on-site batch plants. Didn't see much of that in my time.
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I see a lot of concrete forms being brought in for bridges now too.
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I've always loved maps.
Any thoughts on the conference the above map yielded?
You love conference maps, you say?
(https://i.imgur.com/YOEO82U.png)
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Another conference "fictional notion" would be to lump city schools in one batch.
Pitt
Cincy
Laville
Memphis
Houston
Syracuse
BC
Boise
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(https://i.imgur.com/YOEO82U.png)
And they say Austin's weird
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Another conference "fictional notion" would be to lump city schools in one batch.
Pitt
Cincy
Laville
Memphis
Houston
Syracuse
BC
Boise
Northwestern, UCLA, USC, Washington, Miami, TCU.
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You love conference maps, you say?
(https://i.imgur.com/YOEO82U.png)
Not that one. It's a dickhead move.
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I see a lot of concrete forms being brought in for bridges now too.
Indeed. Slip-forming elements of the deck is fairly commonplace. The gantry they use to do the initial deck pour is known by the manufacturer that I can't remember offhand. The overlay is all by hand, though. The mud used for that is really hot stuff and needs to be placed immediately on mixing.
Most level slip formers are built in @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) 's neck of the woods, Ida Grove, Iowa.
Some contractors have stringless concrete pavers that run off total stations, benchmarks, and a computer profile. One company out of NE Iowa paved ~15 miles of I-90 east of Rochester a few years ago, and used their stringless paver. I watched it for a while in action, and I was amazed at the technology.
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Ida Grove
Cooper DeJean's high school
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Remember grade school geography? This was part of the teaching in my early days.
M.I.M.A.L. is:
[img width=160.137 height=499.994]https://i.imgur.com/orneyrK.png[/img]
Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas and Louisiana.
Take those 5 states alone.
Minnesota
Iowa
Iowa State
Missouri
LSU
Add in states to the West of M.I.M.A.L. and you get
Nebraska
Kansas
KSU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Not a bad 12 team conference at all.
Did anybody else notice that you did not include Arkansas in your 12 team conference? You may want to consider expanding to 15 schools and add Arkansas, NDSU, SDSU
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Did anybody else notice that you did not include Arkansas in your 12 team conference? You may want to consider expanding to 15 schools and add Arkansas, NDSU, SDSU
I meant to - that's an oops on my part.
I suppose we could leave out one of the ______ States.
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So the MIMAL TONK conference.
Or maybe the MIMAL KNOT conference.
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If you had to leave out a _______ State, which would it be?
Kansas has the lowest population of Iowa, Kansas and Oklahoma.
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If you had to leave out a _______ State, which would it be?
Kansas has the lowest population of Iowa, Kansas and Oklahoma.
Both of the Dakotas
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A friend of mine started messing around with a map and realignment and I laughed and told him how I've done that 100 times over the years.
It's fun.
Easy to forget about Hawaii. You always run out of teams in the pacific NW or New England, depending on where you begin.
Texas used to have 10 schools, now it has 13. He wants to include everybody. I tend to trim the fat to no more than 80.
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If you had to leave out a _______ State, which would it be?
Kansas has the lowest population of Iowa, Kansas and Oklahoma.
And academically, Kansas St is also lacking. I vote for KSU. Bill Snyder is a genius and a legend, but. he was always fighting an uphill battle.
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Both of the Dakotas
apparently, Coach Prime thought Mount Rushmore was in Hollywood
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apparently, Coach Prime thought Mount Rushmore was in Hollywood
The Eiffel Tower is in Vegas...
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And academically, Kansas St is also lacking. I vote for KSU. Bill Snyder is a genius and a legend, but. he was always fighting an uphill battle.
Done.