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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: LittlePig on November 20, 2023, 12:19:29 PM
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There are now 8 teams that are Bowl elligible. Mich 11-0, OSU 11-0, PSU 9-2, Iowa 9-2, Rut 6-5, MD 6-5, NW 6-5, Wisc 6-5
3 teams are eliminated MSU 4-7, PUR 3-8, Ind 3-8
There are 3 teams that are 5-6 and need 1 win to be bowl elligible: Neb, Minn, ILL. None of them play each other
It is still possible for as many as 11 teams to be bowl elligible, and as few as 8, but I am guessing it will be more like 10 teams.
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I'm hopin Big Ten officiating crews are looking out for the conference's financial interests this weekend and giving the nod to teams that need a win to become eligible
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Current projections
Number of bowl slots: 82
Number of teams currently bowl elligible: 67
Number of teams needing 1 win to be bowl elligible: 24
So my guess is that 78 out of 82 will be filled with bowl elligible teams with 6 wins. The unused bowl slots would be filled in the following order:
1. James Madison (transition)
2. Jacksonville State (transition)
3. Minnesota (APR 992)
4. Rice (987)
5. Mississippi State (985)
6. UCF (984)
7. South Carolina (983)
8. Florida (977)
So there is a chance Minnesota could get a bowl slot if they finish 5-7.
ILLINOIS, Nebraska, MSU have no chance at 5-7
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There are 3 teams that are 5-6 and need 1 win to be bowl elligible: Neb, Minn, ILL. None of them play each other
Spreads for those three:
- Illinois is a 6 point favorite at home against Northwestern.
- Nebraska is a 1.5 point favorite at home against Iowa.
- Minnesota is a 1.5 point home dog against Wisconsin.
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Nebraska is a 1.5 point favorite at home against Iowa.
Line musta moved - Hawks were favored by 1
did Brian bow out?
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In addition to the APR ranked schools listed above,
These four come in to play with a win.
Wake (992)
Michigan State (982)
Ball State (980)
Middle Tennessee (978)
Also I guess the PAC has a rule that teams will not accept a bowl bid at 5-7, so no need to look up PAC APR's. This could maybe screw Cal in their last year in the PAC
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Nebraska is a 1.5 point favorite at home against Iowa.
Line musta moved - Hawks were favored by 1
did Brian bow out?
Right now according to my phone:
- Nebraska -2.5
- Illinois -6
- Minnesota +1.5
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Big Ten bowl projections
CFP Bowl - Rose - Ohio St
NY6 Bowl - Orange - Michigan
NY6 Bowl - Peach - PSU
Citrus - Iowa
Reliaquest - None
Las Vegas - NW
Music City - Wisc
Pinstripe - MD
Guarunteed Rate - Rutgers
Quick Lane - Minn
None - NEB, ILL, MSU, Ind, Pur
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Going into Saturday
Nebraska is now out at 5-7. Neb has no chance with its lower APR rank to make a bowl at 5-7.
Mich St is now out at 4-8. MSU had an extremely small chance to make a bowl at 5-7 but that's gone now.
Mich, Ohio St, PSU, Iowa, Rut, MD, NW, Wisc are bowl elligible.
PUR, Ind, Neb, MSU are out.
Minnesota is 5-6 and needs to beat Wisc to become bowl elligible. Minn has a 26% chance to make a bowl at 5-7 due to its APR rank being so high.
ILL is 5-6 and needs to beat NW to become bowl elligible. ILL has no chance to make a bowl at 5-7 due to its lower APR rank.
Going into Saturday:
Total number of bowl slots: 82
In: 69
Out: 43
5-6: 17
Other: 1 (Navy at 5-5)
So there are 13 slots still need to be filled and 18 teams that still could get to 6 wins.
If all 82 spots are not filled, the next 2 in would be James Madison and then Jax St, both in the 2nd year of transition from FCS to FBS and both have at least 6 wins.
After that 5-7 teams are picked based on APR ranking.
Assuming about 9 out of 18 of the 5 win teams do actually win, that leaves about 4 spots, 2 for JMU and JSU, and 2 spots for 5-7 teams. If Minn ends up 5-7, they might be 2nd on the APR after the dust settles, but that's a lot of ifs. Better if Minn just beats Wisc if they want to make a bowl
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So the final game has been played on Saturday with Col St losing to Hawaii.
82 bowl slots available
79 teams are now bowl elligible with 6 wins.
So James Madison and Jax St will go to bowls as FCS/FBS transition schools filling slots #80 and #81.
Navy is 5-6 and has 1 game remaining in 2 weeks against Army. There is some confusion on whether the bowls will wait for the Army-Navy game to see if Navy is available or choose a 5-7 now that has the highest APR rank, which is Minnesota.
So the final slot might go to Navy if they beat Army in 2 weeks or it might go to Minnesota who is the 5-7 team with the highest APR rank. All other 5-7 teams are out unless an elligible team turns down a bowl invite.
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Updated SOR/SP+ Playoff
- #1 MICHIGAN vs. #4 OHIO STATE
- #2 Georgia vs. #3 Florida State
Under 2024 12 team format
- #12 Liberty at #5 OHIO STATE; winner vs. #4 Washington
- #11 Missouri at #6 Texas; winner vs. #3 Florida State
- #10 Ole Miss at #7 Oregon; winner vs. #2 Georgia
- #9 PENN STATE at #8 Alabama; winner vs. #1 MICHIGAN
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Thinking this past weekend eliminates a lot of conspiracy talk
If the Big Ten refs were acting in the interest of the perceived best interests of the conference, they screwed up. OSU, Minnesota, Illinois and Nebraska all lost. So now the school the Big Ten apparently hates is in the CCG, and 3 schools wound up ineligible for bowls, with losses to teams that were already in
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Sounds like Minnesota is going to make a bowl at 5-7. They are not going to wait until after the Army-Navy game this year to see if Navy gets 6 wins. So that must mean Navy had to have 6 wins before the Army-Navy game to be bowl elligible. One of the trade offs of scheduling a game a week after Bowl Selection Sunday.
Of course, I guess if one team drops out later because of Covid or whatever, then I guess the bowl could take Navy then.
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So with Minnesota going to a bowl, these are current projections
Mich. - CFP playoff bowl - Rose
Ohio St - Orange
Penn St. - Peach
Iowa - Citrus
MD - Las Vegas
Wisc - Music City
NW - Guarunteed Rate
Rut - Pinstripe
Minn - Quick Lane
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Sounds like Minnesota is going to make a bowl at 5-7. They are not going to wait until after the Army-Navy game this year to see if Navy gets 6 wins. So that must mean Navy had to have 6 wins before the Army-Navy game to be bowl elligible. One of the trade offs of scheduling a game a week after Bowl Selection Sunday.
Of course, I guess if one team drops out later because of Covid or whatever, then I guess the bowl could take Navy then.
They need to re-think this position and play on Friday or Saturday of CCG weekend.
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Of course, I guess if one team drops out later because of Covid or whatever, then I guess the bowl could take Navy then.
Teams have opted out because they've felt bowls were below them. Maybe a school who has already fired their coach, like Texas A&M, opts out.
But if you can still get out of shit by claiming COVID, my next month just opened WIDE up
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Teams have opted out because they've felt bowls were below them. Maybe a school who has already fired their coach, like Texas A&M, opts out.
But if you can still get out of shit by claiming COVID, my next month just opened WIDE up
Opting out for COVID has happened, but are there examples of teams opting out for no reasons at all?
It seems unlikely to me, since the conference has a contract negotiated with each bowl, and a school opting out would represent a breach of contract. The conference itself really can't allow schools to just opt out for no reason.
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Opting out for COVID has happened, but are there examples of teams opting out for no reasons at all?
It seems unlikely to me, since the conference has a contract negotiated with each bowl, and a school opting out would represent a breach of contract. The conference itself really can't allow schools to just opt out for no reason.
Notre Dame said they were above the Copper Bowl one year. North Carolina just opted out of the NIT last year.
It used to be unthinkable that you would fire a coach who just got you to a bowl, but I'm guessing that will be happening, now that it is a thing. How many Texas A&M kids are going to be in the portal. Do they even have a coaching staff? Those guys need to be interviewing for their next job. Hell, same for Duke and Oregon State.
Once again about the stupidity about a sport where 95% of your schools ceiling is being good enough to be an Oregon State or Duke, where you play in an exhibition game, with your coach already gone, and every good player skipping
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I know the PAC-12 has a rule that no 5-7 team will accept a bowl bid even if they are the next APR team in line. Doesn't matter this year (or any year after this).
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Notre Dame said they were above the Copper Bowl one year. North Carolina just opted out of the NIT last year.
It used to be unthinkable that you would fire a coach who just got you to a bowl, but I'm guessing that will be happening, now that it is a thing. How many Texas A&M kids are going to be in the portal. Do they even have a coaching staff? Those guys need to be interviewing for their next job. Hell, same for Duke and Oregon State.
Once again about the stupidity about a sport where 95% of your schools ceiling is being good enough to be an Oregon State or Duke, where you play in an exhibition game, with your coach already gone, and every good player skipping
Wisconsin took that spot. We went to the game. Bowls were fun back then.
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Kill coaches New Mexico State, not New Mexico.
New Mexico is in the Mountain West.
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247 - with a sense of humor
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The humor being the caliber of writers you get when your business model is largely based on selling subscriptions to fan bases who exclusively want to read what are essentially forum posts, but by "media". Media just being fan boys, who makes their posts as articles for like a $15k salary, and no access other than what they are fed
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I get paid even less and posted it here for your humor
Brutus is way too serious
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I get paid even less and posted it here for your humor
Brutus is way too serious
No joke, anyone here could be the Rivals/Scout/247/On3 writer for their team. They just pay fan boys to keep the true believers happy. I think how behind every turn in this story the Michigan media slappys have been has proven
Granted that's all media is at this point. Just appeasing your existing audience
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The Lobos are 4-8, and just fired their HC.