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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: LittlePig on November 05, 2023, 07:17:02 AM
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1. Michigan
2. Ohio St
3. Penn St
4. Iowa
5. Minn
6. Neb
7. Wisc
8. Rutgers
9. NW
10. ILL
11. MSU
12. IND
13. Purdue
14. MD
I think the key thing we found out Sat is that any team ranked from #4 to #14 is capable of beating each other and all of them could easily be 3-3 right now. Iowa just has That weird ability (luck?) to win many of its close games, even with no offense, which gives them the slight edge in the West.
The next big test is coming in the East, with Mich playing at PSU on Nov. 11.
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1. Michigan
2. Ohio St
3. Penn St
4. Iowa
5. Minn
6. Neb
7. Wisc
8. Rutgers
9. NW
10. ILL
11. MSU
12. IND
13. Purdue
14. MD
I think the key thing we found out Sat is that any team ranked from #4 to #14 is capable of beating each other and all of them could easily be 3-3 right now. Iowa just has That weird ability (luck?) to win many of its close games, even with no offense, which gives them the slight edge in the West.
The next big test is coming in the East, with Mich playing at PSU on Nov. 11.
Yes- once you get to #4, you could just throw the names in a hat.
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Yes- once you get to #4, you could just throw the names in a hat.
Yes, we were so close to having a 5-way tie for first in the West with all 5 teams 3-3. If only NW would have pulled it out against Iowa. So close.
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1. Ohio State
2. Penn State
3. Michigan, yes the running game was that bad
4. Iowa
5. Rutgers
6. Minnesota
7. Wisconsin
8. Nebraska
9. Maryland
10. Northwestern
11. Illinois
12. Indiana
13. Michigan State
14. Purdue
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430 you don't believe any of that ^^^^^^^^^ for a second
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430 you don't believe any of that ^^^^^^^^^ for a second
Did you watch the Purdue - Michigan game? 110 yards from 34 rushing attempts. And 44 of those yards came on one play.
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They're sandbagging just wanted to avoid injuries. Happy Valley shouldtell us alot more
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They're sandbagging just wanted to avoid injuries. Happy Valley shouldtell us alot more
Agree with this. Outside of 1 or 2 plays, it was very very conservative play calling, especially the running game 2nd half. We’ll learn a lot in 1 week.
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OSU
Mich*
PSU
Iowa
Rutgers
Minn
Wisc
Nebr
Maryland
Ill
Nwest
Indiana
Purdue
MSU
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In a way, the winner of this Saturdays Rutgers @Iowa game could be the clear #4 in the conference.
Iowa is 7-2 overall and Rutgers is 6-3. Rutgers 3 losses are to OSU, Mich, Wisc. Iowa's 2 losses are to PSU, Minn.
Minn, Wisc, Neb, MD all are 5-4 overall and any still could make a run at #4, but last week did not instill any confidence in any of them.
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- Michigan - Did what they needed to do with Purdue. Now we get to see them play a team with a pulse this weekend.
- Ohio State - Looked the offense was sleepwalking after the first touchdown until they 2nd half. And Rutgers is not the bottom feeder they used to be.
- Penn State - It looks like they are hitting their stride now. They will need that this weekend.
- Iowa - The game with NW was the lowest ever over/under (30.5) for a college game, and they managed to hit the under comfortably.
- Rutgers - Ran the ball well against a good defense. Their defense is also playing well.
- Wisconsin - At this point, I have no idea about any of the teams from here down. I'm just going to keep them were I had them last week.
- Minnesota
- Nebraska
- Illinois
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- Indiana
- Purdue
- Michigan State
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Last week in parenthesis
- OHIO STATE (1) - probably more interested in the game in Happy Valley than their own this week
- MICHIGAN (2) - about to finally get tested
- PENN STATE (3) - lose this, get James Franklin out of my face forever as the guy who can get PSU there
- IOWA (4) - just in case you wondered whether Brian's offense would fight for him after his firing
- RUTGERS (6) - failing to punch one in in the 3rd quarter killed them
- WISCONSIN (5) - only on this day can you lose to the worst team in the conference and only drop one
- ILLINOIS (12) - I mean, I guess, who knows?
- MINNESOTA (7) - a chance to take control of the West, and you lose at home to Illinois' backup QB?
- NEBRASKA (8) - so much for my faith there
- NORTHWESTERN (9) - does Chicago still want them to be their team
- MARYLAND (10) - falling hard and fast
- MICHIGAN STATE (13) - thought maybe the team had given up, I was wrong
- INDIANA (14) - showing some life here the past two weeks
- PURDUE (11) - looking more and more like the Illinois win was the anamoly
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Updated SOR/SP+ playoff
- #1 OHIO STATE vs. #4 Alabama
- #2 Washington vs. #3 Florida State
Under the 2024 12 team format
- #12 James Madison at #5 Texas; winner vs. #4 Alabama
- #11 Louisville at #6 Georgia; winner vs. #3 Florida State
- #10 Ole Miss at #7 MICHIGAN; winner vs. #2 Washington
- #9 Oregon at #8 PENN STATE; winner vs. #1 OHIO STATE
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PENN STATE (3) - lose this, get James Franklin out of my face forever as the guy who can get PSU there
on paper- Franklin should lose this game. Michigan is the more veteran, experienced, talented team. So if PSU were to lose, I don't think that would be any indication of him not being the guy who can get PSU there. There's already been plenty of indication of that being the case in the 10 years he's been there....
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They're sandbagging just wanted to avoid injuries. Happy Valley shouldtell us alot more
this....Blake Corum only got 15 carries- of which like almost half were near the red area- and Donovan Edwards had 7 carries. They didn't really try to feature either of them.
the most carries Corum has had all year was 21 vs Rutgers. Next is 16 vs the Cornies and after that was 15 vs Purdue. Edwards most carries in a game was 14 vs the Cornies and after that was 12 vs ECU in week 1. He hasn't had a double digit carry game all season except for those two. RB stats are largely volume based- more carries you get more you'll get into a "flow" and more chances you have of breaking a home run. Edwards has been close a few times just got tripped up on shoestring tackles before he could explode into the 2nd level and take off.
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Yes- once you get to #4, you could just throw the names in a hat.
exactly how I feel. 1-3 is the only rankings I'm certain of. OSU or Michigan #1 or 2, Penn State 3, everyone else....who the F knows.
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exactly how I feel. 1-3 is the only rankings I'm certain of. OSU or Michigan #1 or 2, Penn State 3, everyone else....who the F knows.
agree
but the final few weeks could clearly give you a clear 1-3
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even post season, no one will know where to rank 4-14
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agree
but the final few weeks could clearly give you a clear 1-3
for sure.
eye test tells me Michigan #1. but SoS and big resume building wins- #1 is easily Ohio State.
we'll find out more about Michigan and Penn State this Sat.
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even post season, no one will know where to rank 4-14
There must be some way to figure it out. What about Medina's 6 common opponents comparison rankings thing that he used to do?
Of course I think the real problem is Iowa has broken the Power Rankings at least for #4 and below. Victories that you would normally write off as a fluke because the defense or special teams made a game-changing play are how Iowa consistently wins games. So for Iowa those wins are not flukes. But that makes stats you would normally use for power rankings like offensive yards or point differential become meaningless.
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1)Michigan
2)Ohio St
3)Penn ST
4) Iowa
5)Rutgers
Not bothering
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There must be some way to figure it out. What about Medina's 6 common opponents comparison rankings thing that he used to do?
Of course I think the real problem is Iowa has broken the Power Rankings at least for #4 and below. Victories that you would normally write off as a fluke because the defense or special teams made a game-changing play are how Iowa consistently wins games. So for Iowa those wins are not flukes. But that makes stats you would normally use for power rankings like offensive yards or point differential become meaningless.
agreed, so you could put Iowa at #4
the obvious gap between Iowa and PSU was illustrated by their head to head
meaning if Iowa doesn't get the game changing play like vs the Gophers, they're no better
yes, most of the time, they do (blocked punt in Wrigley) but.........
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Massey composite rankings - 93 rankings (last week in parenthesis)
- OHIO STATE (1)
- MICHIGAN (2)
- Florida State (3)
- Washington (5)
- PENN STATE (9)
- Texas (4)
- Oregon (6)
- Alabama (7)
- Georgia (8)
- Ole Miss (12)
- Oklahoma (10)
- Louisville (15)
- LSU (13)
- Notre Dame (11)
- Kansas State (14)
- Utah (18)
- Tennessee (20)
- Oregon State (17)
- Missouri (16)
- James Madison (23)
- Kansas (24)
- Oklahoma State (-)
- USC (19)
- Arizona (-)
- Troy (-)
- 27. Iowa (25)
- 38. Rutgers (37)
- 42. Wisconsin (31)
- 48. Maryland (49)
- 51. Minnesota (39)
- 57. Nebraska (45)
- 62. Illinois (72)
- 76. Northwestern (71)
- 84. Indiana (100)
- 85. Michigan State (92)
- 86. Purdue (82)