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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Hawkinole on October 16, 2023, 01:24:51 AM
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Many in Iowa consider Minnesota to be Iowa's biggest rival. I consider Minnesota to be Iowa's 2nd biggest rival after Wisconsin. Whatever others think, this game is for the greatest rivalry trophy in all of football.
So far, Minnesota is nearly as bad as Iowa at scoring points this season. Minnesota: 21.67. Iowa: 20.86.
Points scored by opponents: Iowa 14.86. Minnesota: 26.67.
Iowa's top 3 tight ends were out during the Wisconsin game. No other receivers have figured out how to consistently catch a ball, and Iowa is playing a second team QB.
Iowa used its strategy of get ahead one score then two against Wisconsin, run clock, defend, and walk off with a mild-hawk win.
Iowa needs a safety in this game, to win. So far this season Iowa has had only two safeties in seven games. Well maybe not. This game is in Iowa City, so there is an advantage. Iowa 19 - Minnesota 9.
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Iowa coaches have been loyal to QB Deacon Hill since Cade McNamara was lost but you got to wonder how much longer they are going to stick with Hill or pull him for Joey Labas.
Hill is 2-0 as starter but was 6-21 against Purdue and 6-14 against Wisc. How Iowa won either game just sums up the mystery that is Iowa. All the offense needs is 1TD a game and defense and special teams will take care of the rest.
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This could be big for both divisional races. It is increasingly difficult to come up with a realistic scenario that does NOT end with Iowa in Indianapolis.
At the same time, Iowa played Penn State while Minnesota plays both tOSU and M so in the event of a three-way tie in the B1G-E this will have an impact.
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as a MN fan i can say I dont see this game as competitive. Our last game to Michigan really hit the team hard as they were pushed around and forced into bad decisions
I am not sure what type of team will come out in Iowa but the pound the rock is as good against our defense as almost anything so it will feed right into Iowa's past two game strategies
Athan K is not the same QB that beat Wisconsin last year and with his play this year not sure what the future holds
iowa 21 Minn 6
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One of PJ's consistent problems is the kicking game, and it's a thing that he has so far not addressed. The 2019 snow game vs. Wisconsin was viscerally undone by a return TD and another long return that set up another TD. Last year's Iowa game, their kickers and punters saw on film that the Gophers hadn't returned a kick all year. Guess what? Every kickoff and punt was pitching-wedged up, and the returners looked like they've never fielded a kick or punt in their life. If we know anything about this Iowa club, is that they will feast on any mistakes or poor coverages in the kicking game. I fully expect to concede at least one score this way.
I'm fully expecting another 15-6 -esque score from this game.
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In 2022, Iowa's Spencer Petras was 15/24 for 221 yards 0 int's, and 0 TDs in a 13-10 Iowa win over Minnesota. It is quite an astonishing passing performance considering Petras was the subject of so much criticism. Where is Spencer Petras when Iowa needs him (smile). His performance last year against Minnesota beats the heck out of Deacon Hill's 6/14 for 37 yds against Wisconsin a week ago.
I expect Iowa to come out passing this Saturday, as odd as it might seem, just because Minnesota and the rest of the nation expects Minnesota's only chance is to focus its defense on defending the run.
The Iowa passing attack won't go much beyond the 8-minute mark of the 2nd Qtr. if Iowa has the lead. Then we'll go through the usual slugfest, with Iowa letting the air out of the ball. Even if Minnesota goes up by two scores, K.F. will adopt another strategy to win running the ball. We'll see what happens, soon enough.
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It will be extremely difficult for Iowa to mount a passing game against Minnesota. The top 3 tight ends are not on the depth chart due to injury. Nos. 4 and 5 are a transfer portal scholarship player from Lafeyette, and a sophomore walk-on from Kansas.
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I'd still double the TE
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I'd still double the TE
and stuff every gap for the run
but still I lean Iowa Minn has not shown they are consistent enough to keep this close
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this stat is literally insane...
https://twitter.com/TomFornelli/status/1714077941284372954?s=20
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj0NX0JWIAA0Xzy.jpg:large)
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Iowa 6-1
has amassed 300 offensive yards in one game
winners of 5 games with less than 300 yards of Offense
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and stuff every gap for the run
but still I lean Iowa Minn has not shown they are consistent enough to keep this close
this is what the Ferentz family does
they keep it close
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TE Erick All out for the year with torn ACL. that's a big blow to Iowa's offense that was already anemic, as he's a really good player. kid is a stud and was on the trajectory to be a surefire NFL draft pick TE after his breakout 2021 season, but he has just has had some awful injury luck the past two seasons. feel terrible for him, was hoping he'd re-take off at Iowa and get to the NFL.
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this stat is literally insane...
https://twitter.com/TomFornelli/status/1714077941284372954?s=20
You wonder how Iowa is winning without offense? This may be one reason.
Iowa has placed 4 players on the mid-season All-American team. 3 are on defense and the other one of course is the punter.
2 are on the first team. CB Cooper DeJean and Punter Tory Taylor.
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that punter really is the MVP of the team....
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Probably a 3rd round pick too.
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that punter really is the MVP of the team....
He really is. In the win against Wisconsin, Tory Taylor had 10 punts. Tory averaged 50.6 yards per punt, with two punts of 60+ yards. Six of his punts were downed inside the 20 and he had no touch backs.
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He really is. In the win against Wisconsin, Tory Taylor had 10 punts. Tory averaged 50.6 yards per punt, with two punts of 60+ yards. Six of his punts were downed inside the 20 and he had no touch backs.
Those are what King Barry used to call "hidden yards" and it's how Wisconsin won under him. He probably learned that from Hayden. Need to get back to that, at least a little. Iowa is great at flipping the field.
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Those are what King Barry used to call "hidden yards" and it's how Wisconsin won under him. He probably learned that from Hayden. Need to get back to that, at least a little. Iowa is great at flipping the field.
That's a lesson that PJ clearly has not learned, and I have a sinking feeling that will burn the Gophers at least once on Saturday.
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Iowa 27, Minnesota 14
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I expect this game to be close going into the 4Q. In it's last 3 games, Iowa's defense took over in the 4Q. Can they do it again?
Odds are Iowa will prevail, but you never know when games are close. All Minn needs is a couple breaks go their way and that's enough to beat Iowa.
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While Iowa may survive this mayhem today, or maybe not, Iowa will sustain, at least one more loss.
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West got a lot more interesting with Iowa loss. Nebraska wins out they could actually win the West.
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It's amazing how close Iowa came to pulling it out again with absolutely no offense at all.
It looked like Iowa punt returner Cooper DeJean had another game changing punt return for a TD late in the 4Q, but after replay reviewed it, they ruled DeJean made an invalid fair catch signal. DeJean had made a waiving motion clearly below his head, for his team mates to get away from the bouncing ball. DeJean then picked up the ball on the bounce, avoided a few tackles and returned the ball for a TD.
Replay originally was only checking to see if he went of bounds, which he clearly did not do. Then on the replay, the officials noticed DeJean was clearly waving at his teammates to stay away from the ball, again with his hand below his head the whole time. That is considered an invalid fair catch and the ball is considered dead as soon as the receiving team recovers the ball.
I was ready to nominate DeJean for the Heisman after that play, but every officiating expert insists the invalid fair catch was the right call. Oh well.
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In the end, the officials did not cost Iowa the game. Iowa's offense did. In fact Iowa's only TD drive in the game was gift wrapped by Minnesota penalties.
Iowa QB Deacon Hill turned the ball over 3 times. His 2nd fumble was the difference in the game. Iowa's offense had a net 2 yards of offense and no points in the 2nd half. The offense is just awful
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Congrats to Minnesota. PJ Fleck is such a clown but I kind of like him.
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8 games into the season Iowa is averaging 19.5 PPG.
5.5 points per game short of Brian's contract clause which states they need to average 25 PPG.
Unless that defense and special teams goes on an absolute scoring tear the last 4 weeks of the season, homie ain't gonna make it.
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8 games into the season Iowa is averaging 19.5 PPG.
5.5 points per game short of Brian's contract clause which states they need to average 25 PPG.
Unless that defense and special teams goes on an absolute scoring tear the last 4 weeks of the season, homie ain't gonna make it.
After yesterday any returning players will see to it that doesn't happen. But they kind of got jobbed on that great return by Dejean
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Alex Grinch and Brian Ferentz - stealing money week after week - damn my career choices. I couldn't have faffed things up that bad but I could have certainly given it a shot
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After yesterday any returning players will see to it that doesn't happen. But they kind of got jobbed on that great return by Dejean
The rule was put in place to keep returners hiding behind fair catch protections from giving unclear or ambiguous hand motions meant to trick the opposing team into pulling up. DeJean absolutely did that on purpose and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they practice this. Hard to say whether it had any effect on the play. Looks to me that with several Gophers surrounding DeJean before he grabbed the ball....that they had slowed up a bit. Several of them could have leveled DeJean the second he touched the ball and didn't.
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Good Point and prolly spot on considering Iowa's ability to score or lack there of. Belichick had to be soiling himself watching this though
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Good Point and prolly spot on considering Iowa's ability to score or lack there of. Belichick had to be soiling himself watching this though
Because that is a 5 yard penalty in the pros.
I still can't believe the Gophers went to Mordor and out-Iowaed Iowa.