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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Temp430 on October 04, 2023, 10:36:36 AM
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Damn that is one hell of a tough schedule that Michigan will get. WOW!!!!<br><br>Oregon, USC, Texas at home and Michigan State, and road games with Ohio State and probably Washington.<br><br>Thus, <br><br>Oregon <br>USC <br>Texas<br>Michigan State<br>Ohio State<br>likely Washington<br><br>ITF EXTRA: Michigan football…</p>— Big Ten information. College football fan (@Genetics56) <a href="https://twitter.com/Genetics56/status/1709331276522467460?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Honored that somehow MSU is included as a reason the schedule is difficult
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everything is relative
I'm sorry that UNL counts as soft
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No way that is accurate. That hasn’t been confirmed by anyone and The Wolverine is about as credible as the national enquirer these days…
Can’t stand the guy but Sam Webb over at 247 is literally the only guy with any connections to the Michigan program. Jeem and his coaches and that AD department and their circle talk to no one else but him…it’s weird.
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No way that is accurate. That hasn’t been confirmed by anyone and The Wolverine is about as credible as the national enquirer these days…
Can’t stand the guy but Sam Webb over at 247 is literally the only guy with any connections to the Michigan program. Jeem and his coaches and that AD department and their circle talk to no one else but him…it’s weird.
Well, Texas, Arkansas State, Fresno State, Michigan State, and Ohio State will be on it for sure. Of the remaining seven conference games I would bet at least two of the new Big Ten members will be on it, one a road game.
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Maybe just make this the 2024 schedule thread in general?
https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1709969489243025757?s=20
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The Badgers better be damn good next season.
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The Badgers better be damn good next season.
(https://i.imgur.com/BLFAjoQ.png)
MOOP!
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So looks like they went with 5 year rotations.
Everybody plays everybody at least 2 times in 5 years.
The most you can play a unprotected rival is 3 times in 5 years.
Oregon and Wash are protected rivals that will play every year.
But Wash or Ore are not protected rivals with USC or UCLA.
So since Iowa has 3 protected rivals, They will only play 2 other teams (NW and MSU) 3 times in 5 years
But since PSU has no rivals, it will play 11 different teams 3 times in 5 years.
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they should do away with more than 1 protected rivals.
Michigan should play Ohio State every single year. That's it. They do not need to play Michigan State every year. Pick one main protected rival for every school and get on with it.
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they should do away with more than 1 protected rivals.
Michigan should play Ohio State every single year. That's it. They do not need to play Michigan State every year. Pick one main protected rival for every school and get on with it.
Well, that's the problem. Should PSU and MSU just have none then?
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I understand a rare case where having more than one protected rival makes sense. UM/OSU and UM/MSU is one of those rare cases.
But I don't understand how Iowa has 3 protected rivals. Especially since one of them is Nebraska who has been in the conference all of a decade. I get why Purdue/Indiana and Illinois/Northwestern are protected rivalries, but I have no understanding why Purdue/Illinois should be.
Seems like some of them are a little unnecessary.
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Well, that's the problem. Should PSU and MSU just have none then?
If I'm not mistaken, PSU is the only school which actually has none.
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Well, that's the problem. Should PSU and MSU just have none then?
boom. PSU and MSU play each other. New protected rivalry. Problem solved.
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They tried it, meh
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they should do away with more than 1 protected rivals.
Michigan should play Ohio State every single year. That's it. They do not need to play Michigan State every year. Pick one main protected rival for every school and get on with it.
Hmmm....
What if somebody comes along and says I don't understand why you need any rivals? What if they say they should do away with all rivals? What would be your counter-argument why you need exactly 1 rival?
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MONEY - lots and lots of MONEY
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Honored that somehow MSU is included as a reason the schedule is difficult
I read it as more of a dis, with the way that it was worded. It was just sort of awkwardly tacked on at the end. It was like "We get Oregon, USC and Texas at home! ...and, Michigan State is a home game too, fwiw."
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why not just do away with OOC games and play 12 conference games?
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why not just do away with OOC games and play 12 conference games?
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If I'm not mistaken, PSU is the only school which actually has none.
I wonder why? Oh yeah I know-- it's because they're not a Big Ten school. They're just a weirdly added appendage, cobbled together to satisfy the greed of the powers that be at the time.
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why not just do away with OOC games and play 12 conference games?
Because OOC games are a change of pace which makes the game more fun. Pretty simple really.
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Northwestern's punishment from the Big Ten should have been a first year schedule with OSU, PSU, USC, Oregon, Washington and the Wolverines. Run 'em through the spank line.
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future schedule sucks
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Picking one would be hard for UW. Minnie and Iowa. I guess I've have to go with the longest-played. Minnie it is.
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Because OOC games are a change of pace which makes the game more fun. Pretty simple really.
It is also because it gives more home games to make money.
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It is also because it gives more home games to make money.
TV is where the money is. Content matters. NBC is gonna pay more for Wisconsin/Iowa versus Wisconsin/Ball State.
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TV is where the money is. Content matters. NBC is gonna pay more for Wisconsin/Iowa versus Wisconsin/Ball State.
Have you watched Iowa?
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OK, so bad example.
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Have you watched Iowa?
Hey! Punting can be exciting.
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I think I saw on another message board that as many as 5 teams could finish undefeated with the 2024 Big Ten schedule. Can anybody confirm that?
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Stole this from a thread on Reddit. The analysis is not mine.
https://reddit.com/r/CFB/s/dIykMB3Ipd
The Big Ten could end up with as many as 5 undefeated teams in 2024.
4-team undefeated combinations:
* Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, USC
* Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, UCLA
* Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington
* Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, Wisconsin
* Illinois, Maryland, UCLA, Wisconsin
* Illinois, Maryland, Washington, Wisconsin
* Illinois, Ohio State, UCLA, Wisconsin
* Illinois, Ohio State, Washington, Wisconsin
* Indiana, Iowa, Oregon, Penn State
* Indiana, Iowa, Oregon, Rutgers
* Indiana, Iowa, Oregon, USC
* Indiana, Iowa, Penn State, Rutgers
* Indiana, Oregon, Penn State, Rutgers
* Iowa, Michigan, Penn State, Rutgers
* Iowa, Michigan, Purdue, Rutgers
* Iowa, Oregon, Penn State, Rutgers
* Maryland, Michigan, Purdue, UCLA
* Maryland, Michigan, UCLA, Wisconsin
* Maryland, Ohio State, UCLA, Wisconsin
* Maryland, Ohio State, Washington, Wisconsin
* Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern
* Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Washington
* Michigan State, Nebraska, Northwestern, Penn State
* Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Oregon
* Nebraska, Northwestern, Oregon, Penn State
* Northwestern, Oregon, Penn State, Rutgers
5-team undefeated combinations:
* Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, UCLA, Wisconsin
* Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington, Wisconsin
* Indiana, Iowa, Oregon, Penn State, Rutgers
Edit: Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington, Wisconsin also works. That probably means I missed some 3 and 4 team combinations too but I’ll have to figure those out later.
Edit 2: The 4-team combination I missed was Maryland, Ohio State, Washington, Wisconsin
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Which future Badger schedule is most likely to give King Berry an aneurysm? :111:
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leadership decision makers in the conference are morons
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I understand a rare case where having more than one protected rival makes sense. UM/OSU and UM/MSU is one of those rare cases.
But I don't understand how Iowa has 3 protected rivals. Especially since one of them is Nebraska who has been in the conference all of a decade. I get why Purdue/Indiana and Illinois/Northwestern are protected rivalries, but I have no understanding why Purdue/Illinois should be.
Seems like some of them are a little unnecessary.
My feeling is that once Iowa-Nebraska was scheduled for Black Friday it started a tradition that was good for Nebraska fans. They had a Black Friday game with a "rival."
At first Nebraska dominated the series. After Iowa showed it could compete with Nebraska, Nebraska became another rival to Iowa fans, as well.
Before that Iowa played Minnesota in rivalry week for over 20-years starting in the 1980s. Iowa lost that rivalry week game to Wisconsin, Iowa's other Big Ten rival.
Before Nebraska joined, Minnesota had played Nebraska more than any other Big Ten school. If the Big Ten had scheduled Minnesota-Nebraska for rivalry week, and Iowa-Wisconsin for rivalry week, Minnesota would probably have 3 protected rivals, and Iowa would have 2.
The Big Ten knows it is good for the Big Ten to have a Black Friday rivalry game. A few years ago, Iowa-Wisconsin was going to be moved to rivalry week because Iowa and Wisconsin were thought to be most likely to compete for the Big Ten championship. I don't recall why that changed. Maybe that was due to COVID?
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I love having a Rivalry Week. If that's going to be MSU-PSU every year, than even though neither fan base really considers it a rivalry, they bought in. But apparently Maryland and Rutgers didn't want to be each other's rival, because they didn't find it appealing enough, while missing the irony of it. They wanted to rotate in with Penn State. Once they moved MSU-PSU off Rivalry Week, they killed whatever little momentum it had
I still don't get how we are giving teams partial shares, but when we threw Maryland and Rutgers lifelines, we also let them demand hosting a basketball tournament, and picking their rivals
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ELA, I think it is great you love rivalry week, even though MSU has no rivalry week rival. The thought contradiction is intriguing. I think it is a shame MSU / PSU was not protected.
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I posed a what if preseason, OSU/UM/PSU all finish 11-1. That is looking fairly possible now, no? (Not likely, just plausible.)
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OSU would probably have the best resume, followed by PSU.
UM crossovers are UNL, Minnie and Purdue
PSU crossovers are IL, IA and NU, also played WVU
OSU crossovers are Purdue, Minnie and UW, also played ND
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I posed a what if preseason, OSU/UM/PSU all finish 11-1. That is looking fairly possible now, no? (Not likely, just plausible.)
I would still rate the odds of that happening at less than 25%
First the 3 teams need to split their games and all finish 1-1 against each other. Then they still need to lose to nobody else.
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I'd agree with less than 25%. Somebody usually gets upset, sometimes two somebodies.
Then they would have to have crossed wins (which is more plausible).
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I would still rate the odds of that happening at less than 25%
First the 3 teams need to split their games and all finish 1-1 against each other. Then they still need to lose to nobody else.
Sadly, the former is less likely than the later