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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on September 26, 2023, 10:53:49 PM
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Better get your work in early, because just going .500 in conference play is going to be a grind
https://twitter.com/B1GHockey/status/1706732656250028506?t=IBo0mGrnZcBNuKU8nYLh_Q&s=19
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Something is missing.
:'(
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After competing as an independent since joining college Hockey's division 1 ranks in 2015, ASU Sun Devils hockey has been voted into National Collegiate Hockey Conference.
"Arizona State will join Colorado College, the University of Denver, Miami University, the University of Minnesota Duluth, the University of Nebraska Omaha, the University of North Dakota, St. Cloud State University and Western Michigan University in composing the NCHC's membership."
The Sun Devils only hockey tournament appearance is 2019.
https://twitter.com/ASU/status/1676697683065556992
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The reconstruction of Mariucci Arena is complete. This spring, UMN Facilities Management tore out the cooling plant and rebuilt the ice surface so that it's narrower than the previous Olympic width of 100 feet. I believe it's 90 feet wide.
As for the team, enough guys came back so that it's national title or bust. That NC game last April was a hard one to eat.
https://twitter.com/GopherHockey/status/1707062620149190829?s=20
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The place looks great.
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Something is missing.
:'(
The fact that half these teams should be in the CCHA, and the other half in the WCHA?
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Realignment?
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The fact that half these teams should be in the CCHA, and the other half in the WCHA?
Well, there's that and also the fact that UW hasn't won an NCAA title since 2006.
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I mean MSU last won one in 2007, which makes them the most recent, and Wisconsin #2
Minnesota - 2003
Michigan - 1998
Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State - never
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The difference is that Wisconsin has generally sucked donkey balls since they last won.
Hopefully Big Mac can fix hockey in Madison.
The addition of the new coach should help matters.
Helluva resume at a school with not even close to the resources that Wisconsin has.
Mike Hastings | Men's Hockey Coach | Wisconsin Badgers (uwbadgers.com) (https://uwbadgers.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/coaches/mike-hastings/2226)
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The difference is that Wisconsin has generally sucked donkey balls since they last won.
Hopefully Big Mac can fix hockey in Madison.
The addition of the new coach should help matters.
Helluva resume at a school with not even close to the resources that Wisconsin has.
Mike Hastings | Men's Hockey Coach | Wisconsin Badgers (uwbadgers.com) (https://uwbadgers.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/coaches/mike-hastings/2226)
I mean, since then, Wisconsin has made the NCAA tournament 5 times, including a national championship loss. MSU has made it twice, and last won a postseason game in 2008. They haven't even made Frozen 4 since that championship in 2007
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Minnie's last was 2003.
UW 2006.
But they are still bluebloods because they have a lot of titles. Minnie has 5, UW has 6.
Michigan has 9. Most in the Big 6. Denver also has 9.
Mac needs to fix hockey. I think he has a start.
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MSU 5-2 over LSSU in the opener.
Weird game. MSU completely dominated the first two periods, and the 3-0 score midway through the 2nd reflected that. But 2 stupid turnovers, led to a breakaway and a penalty shot, and it was suddenly 3-2, despite a significant shots and faceoffs advantage.
Then, instead of regrouping, LSSU absolutely dominated the 3rd period, almost completely negated what was a 14 SOG advantage for MSU. But MSU tacked on 2 goals and won 5-2.
Final score may have been about right, because MSU dominated 2/3 of the game, but just very weird how we got there
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Something is missing.
:'(
And yet look who is now #1.
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Amazing what a first-year coach can do.
I wish it was football too...
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This was supposed to be MSU's breather weekend after playing 3 straight top 10 teams in BC, OSU, PSU. Instead it's #1 Wisconsin.
Current poll
- #1 Wisconsin
- #6 Minnesota
- #11 Michigan State
- #12 Michigan
- #17 Notre Dame
- #18 Penn State
- RV Ohio State
And based on the PWR rankings, which is how they determine the NCAA tourney,
- #3 Wisconsin
- #12 Minnesota
- #13 Michigan State
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Why did the B1G bother starting a hockey wing if they are gonna bury most of the games on BTN+ or Pee Cock?
Seems stupid.
There is one thing that the new TV Exec Commish can do - fix this.
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https://twitter.com/MSU_Athletics/status/1725708007235838202?t=PxAlOaEH6reNz04ZJbrS-g&s=19
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https://twitter.com/MSU_Athletics/status/1725708007235838202?t=PxAlOaEH6reNz04ZJbrS-g&s=19
https://twitter.com/MSU_Athletics/status/1726045643032981825?t=zyP1tcDn3m58lEOuol2X3w&s=19
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(https://i.imgur.com/vKiQ05L.jpeg)
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MSU won their second straight Big Ten title, after nearly dropping the program a decade ago
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Beat Notre Dame 1-0 to advance to the title game. Very weird that the Big Ten split the semifinals and championship up, but kept both as single elimination. Seems like all rounds should be best of 3.
Now that MSU advanced though, Im a fan because OSU might win 1 of 1 against PSU. Not sure anyone is winning 2 of 3 against them right now.
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MSUs backup goalie just transferred to Minnesota. Its been a 30 year since MSU hockey was at this level
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(https://i.imgur.com/5JHz7SV.jpeg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/GNnL7fc.jpeg)
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They forgot Notre Dame
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They forgot Notre Dame
Not the worst crime
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And WMU is #2
Sorry Minnesota, but Michigan is the center of college hockey right now.
Apparently the MSU-BU game on Friday night on espn2 was the 4th highest rated college hockey game of all time on ESPN, including national championship and Frozen 4 games. Highest rated since the 2018 NC game
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(https://i.imgur.com/5JHz7SV.jpeg)
Any push for Nebraska to go varsity? I think NU-Omaha has a D1 program?
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not much, not enough
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(https://i.imgur.com/yeCDSOP.jpeg)
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Nice to be ranked I guess, but it's probably short lived since the rest of the Conference is ranked higher.
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(https://i.imgur.com/IvatP1N.jpeg)
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Minnesota sweeps the Irish this weekend; Badgers and Wolverines split in Ann Arbor.
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#1 MSU sweeps #3 PSU, and it wasnt particularly close
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#1 MSU sweeps #3 PSU, and it wasnt particularly close
https://twitter.com/BarstoolMSU/status/1987306413450989594?s=20
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Surprised this was 8-pages back. Anyhoo, fresh off another Wisconsin/Ohio State women's final (Wisconsin back-to-back champs; four straight WI/OSU finals), the Men's tournament starts next weekend. Michigan is the top overall seed, Michigan State is #3, and Penn State and Wisconsin are also in. Michigan could face Penn State in the second round, and Wisconsin could face Michigan State.
North Dakota is the overall #2--old school WCHA. Denver, Minnesota State, and Minnesota-Duluth round out the former WCHA.
Also, Minnesota has cleaned house for its men's and women's programs: both head coaches are out. Or, as SFIrish put it, they Zamboni-ed their coaches.
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As long as MSU doesn't have to play OSU, I like our chances
MSU is 1-3-1 against OSU, and otherwise 15-3-1 against the Big Ten
OSU is 3-1-1 against MSU, and otherwise 5-14 against the Big Ten
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There appears to have been another phase of realignment in the not too distant past.
What's an Augustana?
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(https://i.imgur.com/PZG880P.png)
Bentley, Denver, UConn, Dartmouth and North Dakota get quasi-home games.
And why is this FF event taking place in Las Vegas?
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$$$$$$$$$$$
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Vegas is NHL crazy. Not sure it translates to college
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just plain bat-shit crazy
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MSU-UConn meeting in this Sweet 16 today, "other" Sweet 16 tomorrow.
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Well, UW and MSU each won road games and will now face each other tomorrow in an empty building, for the right to proceed to another empty building in Vegas.
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St. Paul or Fargo would have been better
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United Center and Indy would be good, central places for UW and MSU to meet. They'd probably fill them up.
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You sit on a lead, you deserve to lose
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I didn't get the sense that MSU sat on the lead. They were relentless and the UW goalie stood on his head in he 3rd.
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I didn't get the sense that MSU sat on the lead. They were relentless and the UW goalie stood on his head in he 3rd.
They were outshot 19-5 in the 3rd
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That's more on Wisconsin than on MSU. The Badgers were relentless and their D was suffocating.
MSU had some great shots even still.
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That final goal was fluky as heck. Good things happen when you go to the net, and all that, but what a weird way to win a game.
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I made it back from the bathroom in the nick of time to see it.
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Not Big Ten, but if we had an NHL thread, it's long buried.
I knew the Red Wings were choking down the stretch, but I looked at the standings, and it's hilarious how bad the Western Conference is. The Wings are 10th in the East. They would be 1 point out of leading the Pacific Division. The Predators would be the last team in the the West right now. They would be the 3rd worst team in the East, 11 points out of a playoff spot.
Also, Columbus would currently be the last team in in the East, and they have a winning record against the top 3 teams in the conference. They struggle with teams they should beat, but are a giant killer. In case anyone wants to put any futures out there
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The Frozen Four is made up of the four teams with the most national championships in the sport. I bet that hasn't happened very often:
1) Denver: 10
2) Michigan: 9
3) North Dakota: 8
4) Wisconsin: 6
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NCAA hockey was very top heavy for a long time, and had sort of expanded over the past 15ish years. I wonder if NIL has sort of reconsolidated that power.
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True, but much less so in this century. Of all of those titles, Michigan's last was 1998, Wisconsin's only one this century was 2006, and North Dakota has two, 2000 and 2016.
Denver, on the other hand, has had five this century, allowing it to pass Michigan for the most. Denver's first five were between '58 and '69. Michigan, like in football, has mostly very old championships: 7 from '48 to '64, then two in the 90s: '96 and '98.
Michigan is the overall 1-seed this year. Odds are a Michigan/NoDak final.
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I wonder if NIL has sort of reconsolidated that power.
Good question. I would expect Minnesota and the Boston schools to benefit from that. I think I read that this was a very rare NCAA tournament that didn't include a team from the Beanpot, Boston's annual college hockey showcase between Boston College, Boston University, Northeastern, and Harvard (!!).
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True, but much less so in this century. Of all of those titles, Michigan's last was 1998, Wisconsin's only one this century was 2006, and North Dakota has two, 2000 and 2016.
Denver, on the other hand, has had five this century, allowing it to pass Michigan for the most. Denver's first five were between '58 and '69. Michigan, like in football, has mostly very old championships: 7 from '48 to '64, then two in the 90s: '96 and '98.
Michigan is the overall 1-seed this year. Odds are a Michigan/NoDak final.
Yeah, that's what I mean, those traditional powers hadn't done as well lately. But does this help them regain their foothold against the teams like Ferris State, Union, Providence, Quinnipiac, Duluth, St. Cloud State, Minnesota State, Miami(Ohio), all of whom appeared in a national title game since 2009
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Yeah, I was just looking at that. Basically, when UM-Duluth won in 2011, that marks the changing of the guard at the top, with the traditional elites capturing a smaller percentage of the titles (Boston College 2012, North Dakota 2016, and Denver 2017, 2022, 2024), and a whole bunch of smaller schools winning, including UM-D three times, Yale, Union, Providence, UMass, Quinnipiac, and Western Michigan. UM-D's win in 2011 was its first; no longer the "Gopher Rejects" that we used to yell at them in the Dane County Coliseum and the Kohl Center.
Starting with UM-D in 2011, seven schools won their first NCAA championship since 2011, and of those seven, UM-D is the only one with more than one.
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what's UM-Duluth gonna spend NIL $$$ on besides hockey
michigan would have to steal money from football
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NCAA hockey was very top heavy for a long time, and had sort of expanded over the past 15ish years. I wonder if NIL has sort of reconsolidated that power.
It’s interesting to look at because I always thought old school hockey had a somewhat pleasant diversity of champions.
Granted, it’s now gone to kind of an extreme.
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Certainly different champions from the big revenue sports, but still very definitely an elite class, that generally comes in waves. Michigan, Denver, Minnesota, North Dakota, Boston College, Wisconsin, Boston University. These schools, each with 5 or more, have 48 of the 77 titles (and will have 49 at the end of this season).
But you do get to throw in a run from Lake Superior State in the 80s/90s, and Michigan Tech in the 60s. Maine was very good in the 90s; I don't know about now. And the Ivies jump in there from time to time, led by Ken Dryden backstopping Cornell.
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Wisconsin got robbed in that final against LSSU.
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Wasn't there a pretty big fight that broke out in that game? My recollection is that it wasn't Wisconsin's finest hour.
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Lots of ridiculous call against Big Red boiled over into a fight, yes.
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From Wikipedia
The 1992 championship game is most remembered for the controversial penalty calls that gave Lake Superior State 11 power plays in the game. Wisconsin staff and players were so incensed at the calls that referee Tim McConaghy was accosted after the match which led to two Wisconsin players being suspended for the Badgers' next NCAA Tournament game while assistant coach Bill Zito was barred from any affiliation with Wisconsin for the program's next two NCAA appearances.
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The officials had to have laid wood on LSSU. It was ridiculous.
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Badgers up 2-0 over NoDak at the end of 2.
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Badgers hold on 2-1. Headed to the final.
On Wisconsin.
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That game was fun! Well played for sure.
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I assume Bucky is not opposed to this taking several more overtimes