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Title: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: Hawkinole on September 17, 2023, 10:49:54 PM
These two schools have had similar Power-5 matchups against teams with outstanding defenses, and lousy offense, and the results were:
Iowa 20 - Iowa State 13
Penn St  30 - Illinois 13
Iowa's star tight end, Luke Lachey, will likely miss this game due to injury. Iowa is deep at tight end. There are four other tight ends that have had playing time and appear to be fairly good, but Luke Lachey has definitely been the shining light of the receiver corps this year.
Both teams have good defenses. Penn State has given up 35 points this year; Iowa has given up 37 points.
It's a white-out night game at Penn State. Last time Iowa was a white-out opponent was 2009 when Iowa won 21-10. The offense didn't score much in that game. Adrian Clayborn blocked a punt and ran it in for a TD. Iowa scores in similar ways this season.
It is not going to be 4-2 this time. Penn State's offense is too much for Iowa.
Iowa 14 - Penn St - 24



Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 18, 2023, 07:39:52 AM
if the game was in Kinnick and Iowa had any semblance of an offense I'd pick them. they seem to play out of their minds at home. but...it's on the road and the offense is still wtf-ish. thanks, brian.

I think it'll be a close game because Iowa's defense is so good and they'll keep them in it, but then eventually late in the game the defense will tire out and break as all defenses do when their offenses just keep going 3 and out and punting or turning it over and putting them in bad situations.

I think your score prediction of Penn State 24-14 is pretty dead on the money.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on September 18, 2023, 08:13:48 AM
Illinois defense made Penn State look beatable and Iowa's defense is better.   If Iowa can take care of the ball and score points they have a chance.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 18, 2023, 08:16:46 AM
Illinois defense made Penn State look beatable and Iowa's defense is better.  If Iowa can take care of the ball and score points they have a chance.
Penn State was playing Illinois on the road. They are playing Iowa at home. Teams typically play better at home than vs on the road in CFB. 

And the underlined, well that's a big IF and a big ask. Iowa is more than likely not going to be able to score points vs a very good Penn State defense on the road.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 18, 2023, 08:36:42 AM
yup

very few offense points for Iowa in this one
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 18, 2023, 10:25:08 PM
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1703854200487059967?s=20
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on September 19, 2023, 06:54:09 AM
Iowa will be fine with TE Erik All.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 19, 2023, 08:07:31 AM
Arik Gilbert is available 
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 19, 2023, 08:21:13 AM
Arik Gilbert is available
When he gets out of jail in 10 years?
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 19, 2023, 08:43:49 AM
Lincoln jail didn't hold him, apparently
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on September 20, 2023, 08:56:07 AM
Another Brian Ferentz Deep fake video

https://twitter.com/HeavensFX/status/1703601629474300371?s=01
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2023, 09:08:19 AM
PSU 47  Iowa 42

Sometimes it happens ...

... OK, probably not.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on September 20, 2023, 09:18:25 AM
Iowa historically plays PSU tough and Ferentz is 10--8 against PSU overall.,  but...

It just feels like PSU is going to dominate this game, something like 31-10 final score.  It may only be 10-3 at the half but the Iowa defense will eventually get tired. 
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2023, 09:38:54 AM
17-6, Penn State
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 20, 2023, 09:41:33 AM
17-6, Penn State
probably very accurate. 

Iowa is just flat out not going to score points on offense vs that Penn State defense. 

Only shot Iowa has is to get some special teams td's and defensive td's. Not one or the other. Both. They need multiple scores from D/STs to even have a prayer in this game.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2023, 11:04:13 AM
Penn State 30, Iowa 13
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Abba on September 21, 2023, 11:12:48 AM
Is it true that there is some bad blood between the fanbases going into this matchup?  Iowa fans booing the Penn State injuries in 2021 and Kirk Ferentz referring to them as rats?
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 21, 2023, 11:25:51 AM
Kirk seems to be grumpier as he ages
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on September 21, 2023, 06:12:42 PM
Is it true that there is some bad blood between the fanbases going into this matchup?  Iowa fans booing the Penn State injuries in 2021 and Kirk Ferentz referring to them as rats?
It's interesting if you go on the Iowa message boards how many fans have not let go of the whole Jerry Sundusky pedofile controversy at all.  Some still refer to the school as Pedo State,  insisting PSU should have been kicked out of the Big Ten permanently.

While I guess you could still debate if PSU got a heavy enough penalty at the time,  and if PSU did enough to atone for it's sins,  I will concede at some point you just got to let it go and leave it in the past. 

It probably does not help that Iowa plays MSU after PSU.  MSU has its own problems with sexual deviants.

Of course Iowa is not exactly innocent over the years either,  having both football players and basketball players accused of rape in the past.  Which is another reason I would rather just drop the subject.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Big Beef Tacosupreme on September 21, 2023, 07:17:49 PM
Iowa fans booed injured Penn state players, Kirk Ferentz defended them and said they “smelled a rat”… insinuating that penn state was faking injuries.  A couple of injured guys did come back later in the game, but they rained down boos on players who lost multiple games, their season or their career.

In addition, Some say that some of those injuries were caused by cheap shots, but I’m not willing to go there.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2023, 07:29:07 PM
Iowa fans booed injured Penn state players, Kirk Ferentz defended them and said they “smelled a rat”… insinuating that penn state was faking injuries.  A couple of injured guys did come back later in the game, but they rained down boos on players who lost multiple games, their season or their career.

In addition, Some say that some of those injuries were caused by cheap shots, but I’m not willing to go there.
Iowa fans have a history there
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on September 22, 2023, 02:16:38 AM
Iowa fans booed injured Penn state players, Kirk Ferentz defended them and said they “smelled a rat”… insinuating that penn state was faking injuries.
Although Kirk Ferentz was downplaying it at the time,  people may forget at the time Iowa was ranked #2 in the country after Iowa beat PSU,  and Kirk might have got caught up in the hype.

It's hard to be believe now but Spencer Petras had just won 12 games in a row as Iowa's starting QB.  Iowa rose quickly to #2 in 2021 by beating #19 Indiana, #9 Iowa State and #3 PSU,  plus a blowout win at MD where Iowa scored 52 points.

Anyway people noticed a normally humble Kirk Ferentz was saying some uncharacteristic cocky or a-hole level things at press conferences.  The PSU injury thing was probably one of them.  Or least so I thought.  Then somebody made a video of some of the PSU injured players and a couple of injuries did look like blatant flopping and you can kind of see Iowa fans point. I wish I could find that video again.  But anyway, even with the video, it is safe to say Iowa fans and Ferentz still over-reacted.

Then a week later the bubble burst big time and Iowa started it's new pattern of only scoring only one offensive TD a game that continued the rest of 2021 and throughout 2022.  All those early victories in 2021 over ranked teams was a mirage as none of them finished ranked in the final 2021 rankings.  After a quick 6-0 start and #2 ranking,  Iowa finished 4-4 and 10-4 overall.  And Kirk Firentz, with a few exceptions, stopped saying cocky things in press conferences.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on September 22, 2023, 03:03:55 AM
Can't sleep.  Found this posted in an old thread on an Iowa message board - "Franklin calls out Hawk fans". Somebody actually charted all the PSU injuries in the 2021 game.
Game Time
PSU Player #
PSU Player Name
Down
Injury
Did player return to action?
13:12 Q1
97 – Defense
Mustipher
Iowa 1st & 10, run play for -1 yards
Left leg/knee from block by Linderbaum
Did not return
4:02 Q1
13 – Offense
Lambert-Smith
PSU 2nd & 8 Iowa 37. 33 yard pass/catch
Left leg from low tackle
Returned 1st play of the next series, played rest of way
3:14 Q1
1 – Defense
Brister
Iowa 1st & 10 Iowa 25, run play for 19 yards
Shoulder or head – high hit on tackle of Goodson
Back in after missing 1 play, played rest of way
12;35 Q2
14 – Offense
Clifford
PSU 3rd & 7 Iowa 14, incomplete pass
Ribs – hard hit by Campbell
Did not return
7:52 Q2
91 – Defense
Ellis
Iowa 1st & 10 PSU 16, run play for 4 yards
Left elbow/arm, in on tackle of Goodson – it's possible PSU #16 fell on his arm during tackle
Returned 1st series of Q3, played rest of way
5:39 Q2
0 – Defense
Sutherland
Iowa 1st & 10 Iowa 36, WR screen for 11 yards
Shoulder or upper body – hard, high block from 73-Iowa
Did not return
5:29 Q3
17 – Defense
Ebiketie
Iowa 1st & 10 Iowa 36, run play for 18 yards
Opposite side of play, not involved in tackle, no one around him, not touched
Back in after missing 4 plays, played rest of way


My own comments.  This is the first time looking at this.  From the descriptions, most injuries sound legit.  Mustipher, Clifford and Sutherland did not return at all.  Well, all were legit injuries except for Ebiketie, which sounds like a flop to me.

But the injuries have an interesting pattern, which I could see why it made Iowa fans wrongly suspicious.  See if you can see the pattern.  All injuries on defense except for Clifford.  4  of them were right after big plays by Iowa's offense.  A 33 yard pass,  a 19 yard run,  a 11 yard WR screen,  and an 18 yard run.

Again I think Iowa fans were wrong but their wrong instincts weren't based on nothing.

I know it's laughable now to think that any team would have to fake injuries to slow down Iowa's offense,  but people have to remember, Iowa's offense did not go into the tank until after the PSU game.  Iowa had just scored 51 points on MD the week before. So in their minds,  Iowa fans thought they were right to be suspicious.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 22, 2023, 04:21:57 PM
As I see it this game is a LOT more important for Penn State than it is for Iowa, in part because it is a home game for the Lions and in part because while both teams are among the favorites to win their divisions that would not change for Iowa with a loss, it would change for PSU with a loss.  

Nobody really expects the B1G-W Champion to be undefeated and a two-loss B1G-W Champion isn't unlikely:

So in the nine years that the B1G-W has existed their champion has had:
So the B1G-W Champion has had at least two league losses almost half the time (4/9).  


After this, Iowa only has two more road games (UW and UNL).  The B1G-W gets 5 home / 4 road this year and Iowa plays Northwestern at Wrigley so that is it.  

As I see it, the favorites to win the B1G-W are the UW/PU winner, MN if they blow out NU, and Iowa irrespective of what happens in this game.  
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 22, 2023, 04:26:14 PM
What about Penn State?

Mathematically things are the same as they are for Iowa.  Penn State would still control their own destiny to the B1GCG and probably the CFP even with a loss here.  Practically, however, the chances of those things look pretty remote.  

This game might be Iowa's toughest of the year, it almost certainly isn't for Penn State.  Hosting Michigan and travelling to Ohio State are almost certainly bigger challenges and even hosting Maryland might be (definitely would if they had to do it in September, not sure about November).  If the Lions can't beat Iowa at home then you have to figure that their chances against the Buckeyes on 10/21 and Wolverines on Veteran's Day aren't very good.  
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on September 22, 2023, 05:12:49 PM
Kirk seems to be grumpier as he ages
20 plus yrs of defending your contract wears on a guy.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on September 22, 2023, 05:15:15 PM
Gonna be soaking wet thanks to Ophelia.   Dare we get a 6-4 redux?
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on September 22, 2023, 05:27:37 PM
Could be 3-0 if you're lucky
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 22, 2023, 09:25:21 PM
Brian needs some points
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on September 23, 2023, 01:44:03 PM
I think the rain in State College turns it into a defensive struggle.  Team with the best OL and running game wins.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on September 24, 2023, 12:26:13 AM
I think the rain in State College turns it into a defensive struggle.  Team with the best OL and running game wins.
You were right. It was a defensive struggle for Iowa, and an offensive nightmare.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on September 24, 2023, 12:37:08 AM
Brian needs some points
Barta was a weak athletic director to allow Brian to return for another season. I recall some of the really horrible offenses in the 1970s Iowa had, when it didn't have much of a defense either. The QBs were actually worse then than now. In 1978, at QB:

(https://i.imgur.com/Zer2KAg.png)
The fact the offense was worse then than now, doesn't make now feel better.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on September 24, 2023, 01:00:56 AM
The learning curve is getting steeper. Brian now has to average 26.67 points per game over the remaining 9-games to retain his job.
Let's examine last year's last 9 games to see where Brian might stand.
In 2022, Iowa scored 172 points in its last 9 games, or 19.11 points per game.
Iowa did play Ohio State and Michigan in the last 9 games last year, who Iowa doesn't play this year, so let's eliminate those two teams and see where Brian stands. Without Ohio State and Michigan in the final 7 games of the 2022 season, Iowa averaged 21.14 points per game. The schedule this year is very similar to last year except Ohio State and Michigan are gone and Michigan State is on. Brian will be close to being canonized as a saint by the Pope, if he can pull it off, as he will pull off a miracle . . . oops, I think miracles have to be pulled off post-death, but anyway, he could be on his way if there is a miraculous recovery.
Cade must be thinking, "How did I sign up with a team with no QB coach, and with an offensive coordinator who is so clueless?" Iowa has many talented players on offense, which is why this is giving Hawkeye fans fits. They just don't have a skilled coordinator.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on September 24, 2023, 07:08:46 AM
Penn State putting 31 unanswered points on Iowa tells me Iowa has problems on defense too.  And that Penn State is really good.  And…it was a white out.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on September 24, 2023, 07:29:52 AM
It just feels like PSU is going to dominate this game, something like 31-10 final score.  It may only be 10-3 at the half but the Iowa defense will eventually get tired.

Boy,  turns out my prediction of 31-10 PSU was way too optimistic about Iowa's ability to score 10 points.  Iowa's effort was even worse than what I imagined.  PSU is clearly playing at another level right now.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 24, 2023, 07:34:40 AM
I think that PSU is really good - both sides of the ball

but, 76 total yards by Brian is really bad

with no noticeable effort to make adjustments during the game or at the half to spark the offense

I guess the same could be said about the Iowa defense.
PSU ran the same plays drive after drive in the second half.

just a tough night in a tough environment vs a tough opponent
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-0, 0-0) at #7 Penn State (3-0, 1-0) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on September 24, 2023, 07:54:35 AM
Brian needs some points to go
FIFY
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: LittlePig on September 24, 2023, 08:11:45 AM
Iowa's defense will put in a better effort against MSU next week but Iowa"s offense, especially the passing game, seems unfixable, unless Brian Ferentz is fired.

For 4 straight games this season, Iowa"s passing game has done absolutely nothing after the first 2 drives of the game.  It's like Brian has a couple of successful pass plays he can run and then he's done.

The decision to double-down on Brian Ferentz in 2022 and make him both the QB coach and the OC definitely back-fired.  The decision to triple-down on Brian and not fire him after 2022 has to be single worse mistake of head coach Kirk Ferentz long career.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on September 24, 2023, 08:32:17 AM
Although Kirk Ferentz was downplaying it at the time,  people may forget at the time Iowa was ranked #2 in the country after Iowa beat PSU,  and Kirk might have got caught up in the hype.

It's hard to be believe now but Spencer Petras had just won 12 games in a row as Iowa's starting QB.  Iowa rose quickly to #2 in 2021 by beating #19 Indiana, #9 Iowa State and #3 PSU,  plus a blowout win at MD where Iowa scored 52 points.
is this about the time Brian got heavily involved?
2022??
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 24, 2023, 08:45:17 AM
As I have thought for some time now, Brian Ferentz' continued employment as OC is inexcusable. 

Penn State is a very good team and has more talent. That is not Brian's fault. 76 yards, that is. If this were a one-off you'd just chalk it up to "sh!t happens" and move on but it isn't. Iowa's offense has been consistently terrible for pretty much all of Brian's tenure.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: MrNubbz on September 24, 2023, 08:48:07 AM
How do so many like him and MEL(sans the infractions) to name a few don't earn. Shoulda got into coaching - I'm at least that good
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 24, 2023, 09:24:13 AM
How much is left on the KF buyout?
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on September 24, 2023, 09:35:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KlOrnfj.jpg)
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: Hawkinole on September 24, 2023, 06:58:16 PM
At 245.5 YPG, Iowa is now 131st of 133 FBS teams ahead of the Eastern Michigan Eagles (240.0 YPG), and Sam Houston Bearkats (147.7 YPG).

For Iowa to move up the list its going to take a lot of improvement. East Carolina is 130th and has 282.5 YPG which is quite a gap for Iowa to make up.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: Mdot21 on September 24, 2023, 08:25:48 PM
Penn State is an excellent team, but god damn is Iowa god awful on offense. 

Cade McNamara was insane for transferring to Iowa. He should've went to Wisconsin or Florida or Alabama. He's better than what he's shown at Iowa. That situation is just so bad any QB would stink there. They have no skill talent whatsoever, the OL is iffy, and Brian Ferentz is the play-caller OC. Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would suck there.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: Mdot21 on September 24, 2023, 08:29:02 PM
As I have thought for some time now, Brian Ferentz' continued employment as OC is inexcusable.

Penn State is a very good team and has more talent. That is not Brian's fault. 76 yards, that is. If this were a one-off you'd just chalk it up to "sh!t happens" and move on but it isn't. Iowa's offense has been consistently terrible for pretty much all of Brian's tenure.
100%. 

Brian Ferentz being retained and getting that ridiculous 25 PPG contract was a fireable with cause offense on the part of Kirk. 

Kirk should go this off-season along with Brian. It's time for a change there. 
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: Mdot21 on September 24, 2023, 09:01:11 PM
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/500/997/11997500.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on September 24, 2023, 09:09:32 PM
shittiest
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: ELA on September 24, 2023, 09:41:56 PM
I think the Iowa offense vs. the MSU defense is must watch.sicko football
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on September 24, 2023, 10:38:39 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/380818157_669565901947273_454262244927357242_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5614bc&_nc_ohc=lD9nOcXFpPAAX8zCxkS&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AfCk0OB_ClJXPFU12aFvjhbIrOzjWNds7e6Oh0IzIjOIPg&oe=6514F085)
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: Hawkinole on September 25, 2023, 12:56:08 AM
Penn State is an excellent team, but god damn is Iowa god awful on offense.

Cade McNamara was insane for transferring to Iowa. He should've went to Wisconsin or Florida or Alabama. He's better than what he's shown at Iowa. I agree. That situation is just so bad any QB would stink there. I agree. They have no skill talent whatsoever, I disagree. the OL is iffy, accurate description - sometimes good, in some ways and Brian Ferentz is the play-caller OC It is not just his play calling - it's his schemes. Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would suck there.
Brian Ferentz, an O-Lineman by trade, is Offensive Coordinator, and QB Coach. This Iowa offense is a bit wonting on the O-Line. However, this O-Line is not as bad as it showed against Penn State. A big part of the problem is the O-Coordinator does not play to all the strengths of the personnel. 
Iowa has Kaleb Brown, a 4* receiver from the transfer portal from Ohio State. I think he was targeted once this season. 
When your O-Line is imperfect, there are things you can do with your QB, such as the 5 or 7 step sprint out, launch and pass, on timing routes either to a TE, or a curl pattern to a WR. The D-Line cannot target the pocket QB on a sprint right or sprint left. It adds an element of deftness, but this simple play is not in the Iowa playbook.
The O-Line is better this year than last, but it completely collapsed against Penn State. That said, the O-Coordinator needs to adapt, but the most incapacitated O-Coordinator in FBS P-5, cannot adapt. 
I am convinced this is more of a coaching problem than a talent problem.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: Cincydawg on September 25, 2023, 05:40:57 AM
I haven't watched Iowa play, but those stats are amazing after last season.

They are broken, it's clearly not totally personnel related.
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 25, 2023, 09:01:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Eppn8Ut.png)
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on September 25, 2023, 09:05:10 AM
well, ESPN says they had 16 pass attempts and 17 rushes

balance

maybe a couple more than 33
Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: LittlePig on September 25, 2023, 11:03:18 AM
is this about the time Brian got heavily involved?
2022??
Not sure exactly what happened to make the Iowa offense tank so much.  Brian had been the OC since 2017 with Ken O'Keefe as the QB coach until 2021.

O'Keefe had previously been Iowa's OC under Kirk Ferentz from 1999-2011 until he left for an NFL assistant job.  O'Keefe was brought back as QB coach in 2017 to mentor Brian, because Brian had never been an OC before.  O'Keefe retired after 2021 with little explanation why.  Guess he was just old and ready to retire?

Title: Re: #24 Iowa (3-1, 0-1) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 2-0) Postgame
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 25, 2023, 11:18:06 AM
I am convinced this is more of a coaching problem than a talent problem.
Obviously.

Look, Iowa doesn't have the talent of Penn State, Michigan, or Ohio State. Everyone knows that so those aren't fair comparisons.

Here are some comparisons that are fair to Iowa or unfair in Iowa's favor, results against Penn State:

Struggling against Penn State's defense is expected. Being worse than Delaware's offense is unacceptable.