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Title: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on August 24, 2023, 11:24:11 AM
The Athletic's NFL scout/draft guru Dane Brugler releases his pre-season Top 50 2024 NFL Draft prospects...LINK (https://theathletic.com/4785245/2023/08/24/nfl-draft-2024-prospect-rankings-board/)

B1G is well represented on this list with 16 prospects overall, Brugler's got (5) Ohio State, (5) Michigan, (3) Penn State, (1) Iowa, (1) Illinois, and (1) Minnesota.

OSU: 
#2 - WR Marvin Harrison, Jr.  (duh)
#13 - EDGE J.T. Tuimoloau (feels based more on size/high level physical tools for the position & projection rn than production, but could go even higher if he Chase Young's it his JR year) 
#18 - WR Emeka Egbuka (looks about right)
#35 - EDGE Jack Sawyer (don't see that one at all, looks more like 3rd or 4th rd pick to me)
#49 - OG Donovan Jackson (looks about right, he'll be one of the first guards taken)

Michigan: 
#19 - QB JJ McCarthy (similar to JTT, feels based more on size/high level physical tools for the position & projection rn, could go even higher if he makes a year 2 jump and level up season)
#39 - DT Kris Jenkins (definitely going to get drafted higher than this imo)
#41 - OG Zak Zinter (looks about right, he'll be one of the first guards off the board)
#46 - RB Donovan Edwards (looks about right, but could possibly even go higher and be RB1) 
#50 - RB Blake Corum (not sure I see him as a 2nd rd RB, feels more like a RD 3 guy to me, not that there's anything wrong at all with that- that's still pretty damn good)

Penn State: 
#4 - OT Olu Fashanu (duh- only flaw could be his run blocking...he needs to improve that)
#11 - CB Kalen King (don't think he gets drafted that high imo, like all them high level college CB Cass Tech guys before him he's 5'10+- not quite 5'11....think the NFL is looking for CBs taken that high that are 6'+)
#15 - EDGE Chop Robinson (he could go even higher if he has the kind of level he should)

Iowa:
#17 DB Cooper DeJean (looks about right)

Illinois:
#25 - DT Jer'Zahn Newton (definitely going to get drafted even higher than this imo) 

Minnesota:
#40 - DB Tyler Nubin (looks about right)


https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1694694552852922519?s=20
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on August 24, 2023, 11:42:33 AM
SEC by the way has 14 of the players on this list, so basically 60% of the top draft prospects are from 2 conferences. If you add USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington to the B1G roster and Texas/OU to the SEC roster it's 38 players- 76%. 
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 25, 2023, 06:49:34 PM
But make sure TCU gets a shot!
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on August 25, 2023, 06:52:51 PM
The Horned Frogs are taking the NFL — and California — by storm with eight selections in the 2023 Draft.

TCU topped both the Lone Star State and all 10 Big 12 universities. The local school was only two picks behind Alabama and Georgia, who each sent 10 players to the NFL. This year tied the program’s 1957 record when the draft was 30 rounds.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 26, 2023, 01:13:02 AM
The Horned Frogs are taking the NFL — and California — by storm with eight selections in the 2023 Draft.

TCU topped both the Lone Star State and all 10 Big 12 universities. The local school was only two picks behind Alabama and Georgia, who each sent 10 players to the NFL. This year tied the program’s 1957 record when the draft was 30 rounds.

Yes, at their zenith, they're just 58 points behind the national champs.  
Close call.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2023, 09:06:40 AM
obviously it's not related to the NFL draft
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Cincydawg on August 26, 2023, 09:10:11 AM
With 8 picks, it shows TCU had some talent, they just ran into an outlier.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2023, 09:37:37 AM
apparently they had more talent than Michigan
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on August 26, 2023, 09:50:09 AM
apparently they had more talent than Michigan
Michigan had 9 NFL draft picks in '23 Draft. Which is one more than eight! Michigan will have double digits drafted in '24 Draft. Will TCU even have 3? 

So apparently not. 
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Cincydawg on August 26, 2023, 09:52:18 AM
Games have single outcomes, but if you consider what MIGHT happen over say 100 such contests, Michigan would probably win 80.  And UGA wouldn't blow them out like they did very often.  Maybe the average score would be 35-21 or something.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2023, 09:58:14 AM
TCU had some close games, beat Baylor by a point.
If the committee drops them to #5 after the B12 champ game lose to KSU their draft is completely different

no way they have 8 drafted if they don't get in the playoff
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on August 26, 2023, 10:00:56 AM
Games have single outcomes, but if you consider what MIGHT happen over say 100 such contests, Michigan would probably win 80.  And UGA wouldn't blow them out like they did very often.  Maybe the average score would be 35-21 or something.
duh! agreed. 

TCU had an entire month to prepare for Michigan. Didn't seem like Michigan was preparing for TCU at all. Michigan were way to overconfident and cocky, thought they'd just walk to a W. Lot of self-inflicted wounds from the coaching staff and players for Michigan as well. TCU capitalized on their opportunities- have to give them all the credit in the world. 

Georgia wouldn't have beaten TCU 65-7 every time out, that's preposterous, but you play that game 100 times and Georgia beats TCU 99 times and by 10 points at least every single times imo. 
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Cincydawg on August 26, 2023, 10:02:57 AM
no way they have 8 drafted if they don't get in the playoff
This is very weird, and probably true.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: MaximumSam on August 26, 2023, 01:34:52 PM
I'm on the fence about reupping with The Athletic. A lot of their stuff is top notch, but they have pretty much gutted their college football coverage and they never did much with college basketball, so not sure I want to spend the 20 bucks or whatever they are charging now.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2023, 01:38:12 PM
I don't pay for any media
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Cincydawg on August 26, 2023, 01:39:57 PM
I don't pay for any media
I don't either, directly.  This $6 a week for this and $15 for that soon adds up.

I'm on my wife's phone plan.  
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: MaximumSam on August 26, 2023, 01:46:15 PM
I don't pay for any media
I figure by not golfing or boating or whatever I come out ahead
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2023, 01:47:36 PM
everyone has their vices
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on August 26, 2023, 04:23:30 PM
Or masochistic tendencies
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 26, 2023, 04:42:28 PM
I figure by not golfing or boating or whatever I come out ahead
If it flies, floats, or f@$#s, it's better to rent anyway. 
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 26, 2023, 09:06:55 PM
Just re-ordered youtube TV for college football.

I can't do regular TV shows anymore - can't handle the commercials.
I'll cancel it in January.
Probably won't use it from Sunday-Friday, except for Thursday night games.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on August 31, 2023, 05:38:42 PM
ESPN's latest NFL mock draft has JJ McCarthy going #21 overall to the Vikings.

That would be a great spot to land for him if it happens. Yeah the money and prestige isn't as good as going top 5, but you're likely in a better position for success than Caleb Williams or Drake Maye- who are both going top 5- and will both go to absolute dogshit teams. Playing for a former QB offensive minded head coach from the Sean McVey system in O'Connell with probably the best WR in the entire NFL in Justin Jefferson, a top 10ish TE in TJ Hockenson, and a young up and coming LT in Christian Darrisaw who has shown a lot of promise in only 2 years in the NFL (PFF ranks him as the 5th best OT in all of NFL). That's a GREAT freaking landing spot if you're a young QB.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on August 31, 2023, 06:30:58 PM
I'd love it
anything to dump Cousins
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on August 31, 2023, 06:33:10 PM
I'd love it
anything to dump Cousins
isn't Kirk's contract up after this year? 
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on August 31, 2023, 06:40:09 PM
I hope so
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 31, 2023, 09:32:17 PM
You're doing a deep dive based on an August mock draft?

You need a girl, mate.  Or a side business.  
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on September 06, 2023, 02:36:16 PM
Caleb Williams' dad says his son might stay at USC and make a few million in NIL his senior year if they don't like who has the #1 pick in the draft. 

This could be a case of NIL being a great thing for the players and sport. Caleb Williams competing in the B1G for his final year would be awesome for the league and sport as a whole.

Wouldn't blame him, who the hell would want to play for the Cardinals? But at the same time- if you're the #1 pick, you pretty much have to go. Anything could happen and you might not be the #1 pick in 2025 or even get drafted due to some kind of catastrophic injury which forces you to retire.

https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1699436768372695183?s=20
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on September 06, 2023, 03:44:49 PM
Don't be like John Elway 

Punk