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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on August 15, 2023, 10:27:05 AM
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Using the recently released AP Poll:
- #19 Wisconsin
- #25 Iowa
- #37 Minnesota
- #43 Illinois
Teams neither ranked nor receiving votes:
- Purdue
- Nebraska
- Northwestern
Games amongst the top-4:
- 1A, 2H Iowa visits UW, hosts MN and IL
- 1A, 2H Minnesota visits IA, hosts UW and IL
- 2A, 1H Wisconsin visits MN and IL, hosts IA
- 2A, 1H Illinois visits IA and MN, hosts UW
That favors the Hawkeyes and Gophers and is a challenge for the Badgers and Illini.
B1G-E opponents:
- Wisconsin visits IU, hosts tOSU and RU
- Iowa visits PSU, hosts MSU and RU
- Minnesota visits tOSU, hosts M and MSU
- Illinois visits UMD, hosts PSU and IU
This looks like a big disadvantage for Minnesota since they play both tOSU and M. The other three each only play one of the big three from the East.
Which of UW/IA/IL's schedules are most favorable depends on just how good you think tOSU/PSU/M are relative to UW/IA/IL. If the Eastern teams are "beatable" then UW/IL have the more favorable schedules because they get HFA against their toughest opponents (tOSU/PSU). If not then Iowa has the more favorable schedule because they get HFA in the games where it might matter.
IMHO, all of the above probably favors Iowa. That said, I still don't think they will get to Indy for two reasons:
- They visit Camp Randall, and
- Brian Ferentz.
I'm picking Wisconsin.
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Did Iowa install that fun and gun offense?
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Did Iowa install that fun and gun offense?
I heard a rumor that they are going to attempt a new and mysterious gimmick called the forward pass but that was only a rumor, it probably isn't true.
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Did Iowa install that fun and gun offense?
I think the new QB and the QB analyst is going to help a lot in Iowa City.
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Since this the last year for divisions, I am finding myself rooting for ILL to take the last Big Ten West title since they are the only school in the West never to win or even tie for a division title.
This would be a fitting end for the Big Ten West, with everybody winning or tieing at least once for a division title. Of course you have to go back to legends and leaders to count Nebraska's last division title and Minn has never made to the CCG, losing the tiebreaket the one year they tied for first, but they did get a trophy.
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Division titles for Big Ten West teams
Wisc - 5 total, 4 West (2011-Leaders-won tie, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2019-won tie)
Iowa - 2 (2015, 2021)
NW - 2 (2018, 2020)
Neb - 1 total, 0 west (2012- Legends)
PUR - 1 (2022)
Minn - 0 total, 1 tie (2019-lost tie)
ILL - 0
I was actually surprised there were not more ties for first.
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Since this the last year for divisions, I am finding myself rooting for ILL to take the last Big Ten West title since they are the only school in the West never to win or even tie for a division title.
This would be a fitting end for the Big Ten West, with everybody winning or tieing at least once for a division title. Of course you have to go back to legends and leaders to count Nebraska's last division title and Minn has never made to the CCG, losing the tiebreaket the one year they tied for first, but they did get a trophy.
So very PJ Barnum.
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Which of UW/IA/IL's schedules are most favorable depends on just how good you think tOSU/PSU/M are relative to UW/IA/IL. If the Eastern teams are "beatable" then UW/IL have the more favorable schedules because they get HFA against their toughest opponents (tOSU/PSU). If not then Iowa has the more favorable schedule because they get HFA in the games where it might matter.
IMHO, all of the above probably favors Iowa. That said, I still don't think they will get to Indy for two reasons:
- They visit Camp Randall, and
- Brian Ferentz.
I'm picking Wisconsin.
I agree with your reasoning, but not in the order you expressed. I would reverse #1 and #2.
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Illinois can suck it
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Purdue is a total mystery this year. Won the west last year, but has so many questions this year that most prognosticators have them in the 5th or 6th place slot for this year. It wouldn't surprise me if they went 3-9 or 8-4. It's probably going to come down to the O-line making holes for Mock to run through.
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putting my $ on Fickell turning that culture around and Braelon Allen carrying them to victories. Gimme Wisconsin.
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Purdue is a total mystery this year. Won the west last year, but has so many questions this year that most prognosticators have them in the 5th or 6th place slot for this year. It wouldn't surprise me if they went 3-9 or 8-4. It's probably going to come down to the O-line making holes for Mock to run through.
If Jeff Brahm was still around, I would give Purdue a chance to go 8-4, but with a new coach coming in, it's definitely feels like a year where they scrap the old system and start over which usually means playing younger players with little experience and building for the future. So 3-9 sounds about right for Purdue. Of course I have been wrong before.
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putting my $ on Fickell turning that culture around and Braelon Allen carrying them to victories. Gimme Wisconsin.
Yes, the real question is can Fickell turn it around in year 1. The Wisc-Iowa game is mid-season. Will Wisc be a fine-tuned machine by October?
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Yes, the real question is can Fickell turn it around in year 1. The Wisc-Iowa game is mid-season. Will Wisc be a fine-tuned machine by October?
First one to 13 wins?
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First one to 13 wins?
Lol I first read this as 13 wins, not 13 points, and I was like, are you nuts? Neither team is getting to 13 wins this year.
Once I figured out you meant first to 13 points wins the game, I was like, yeah that makes a lot more sense.
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How will the season play out in the Big Ten? Kaleb Henry makes his predictions for every game.
https://www.si.com/college/nebraska/football/predicting-every-big-ten-teams-week-to-week-result (https://www.si.com/college/nebraska/football/predicting-every-big-ten-teams-week-to-week-result)
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Purdue is a total mystery this year. Won the west last year, but has so many questions this year that most prognosticators have them in the 5th or 6th place slot for this year. It wouldn't surprise me if they went 3-9 or 8-4. It's probably going to come down to the O-line making holes for Mock to run through.
The O-Line is the biggest question right now. Had to replace a lot.
Culture will not be a problem though. Everyone is sleeping on this team and I think they made a great choice at HC.
Purdue will still Purdue and pass the ball all over the place. Watch out for Hudson Card as well as Mock.
Schedule is absolutely brutal though.
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First one to 13 wins?
God help me, I'm a little more worried about UW's defense.
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I'm more concerned with the development of the offense. Very complex and a complete 180 from what the OL are used to.
I think the defense will shine.
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Lol I first read this as 13 wins, not 13 points, and I was like, are you nuts? Neither team is getting to 13 wins this year.
Once I figured out you meant first to 13 points wins the game, I was like, yeah that makes a lot more sense.
LoL, I did exactly the same thing when I read that.
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It seems like ILL is the only program that either does not have a new coach or that is dealing some mini-controversy this summer
Neb, Wisc, PUR, NW - New Coach
Minn - Alleged Mistreatment of former players. Pj Fleck says it's not true
Iowa - gambling investigation. You got to hand it to Kirk Ferentz, he has had his share of mini-controversies over the years that normally would get a coach fired, but somehow he always survives. In 2007 it seemed like a lot of Iowa players were getting arrested and a couple players were accused of rape. In 2011 there was the rhabdo controversy. In 2021 there was charges of racism when the strength coach got fired. Now the gambling thing. Throw in the charges of nepotism over the years, it's amazing Kirk Ferentz is still around.