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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: utee94 on July 26, 2023, 09:48:34 PM
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Have we done one of these before? I feel like we might have, but perhaps not.
I'll start.
Pickles suck. They taste bad. In fact, anything cucumber related sucks and tastes bad.
I realize I'm in the minority here and that this is an unpopular opinion. Hence the thread.
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People shouldn't have animals/pets.
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People shouldn't have animals/pets.
I don't see what is so unpopular about this opinion, when it is in fact correct.
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I don't see what is so unpopular about this opinion, when it is in fact correct.
What is your reasoning for this?
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People shouldn't have animals/pets.
Dang, Marq coming out strong in the first round.
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People shouldn't drink baby bovine growth drink.
Why are we the first animal in the history of the planet to just chug down the milk of another animal? It's WEIRD.
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Just like there's no such thing as BABY names (there's just names), THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS BREAKFAST FOOD! It's all just food. You can enjoy scrambled eggs at 8am or 8 pm, just like you can enjoy spaghetti at either of those times as well!
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People shouldn't drink baby bovine growth drink.
Why are we the first animal in the history of the planet to just chug down the milk of another animal? It's WEIRD.
the Red-Billed Oxpecker—a bird that can perch on the udders of an impala and suck its milk. Besides the Oxpecker, birds such as Seagulls and Sheathbills have been reported to pilfer milk from elephant seals’ teats directly. So, while it’s quite rare, milk stealing does happen between certain other species in the wild.
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Pickles suck.
You are wrong~whatever~Ole
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People shouldn't drink baby bovine growth drink.
Why are we the first animal in the history of the planet to just chug down the milk of another animal? It's WEIRD.
What's the difference between that and eating a steak - except that one's cheaper and not nearly as delicious same creature
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What's the difference between that and eating a steak - except that one's cheaper and not nearly as delicious same creature
That's normal. Some animals eat other animals.
We're drinking their natural milk to nourish and bulk up their babies as quickly as possible.
We take what the baby cows drink and drown some cooked, flattened grains in it and call it breakfast.
If half the animal world did it, fine.
But apparently it's us and like 3 birds that do this.
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What's the difference between that and eating a steak - except that one's cheaper and not nearly as delicious same creature
Yeah I don't see it as being any better or worse than actually eating another animal.
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Gotta cut down on the methane somehow - let's go get a Ribeye
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Yeah I don't see it as being any better or worse than actually eating another animal.
I'm going to send you some tiger milk and see how it tastes on your Cheerios.
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That's normal. Some animals eat other animals.
We're drinking their natural milk to nourish and bulk up their babies as quickly as possible.
We take what the baby cows drink and drown some cooked, flattened grains in it and call it breakfast.
If half the animal world did it, fine.
But apparently it's us and like 3 birds that do this.
(https://www.purina.co.uk/sites/default/files/2021-01/Article%20Hero-%20cat%20milk.jpg)
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I'm going to send you some tiger milk and see how it tastes on your Cheerios.
We weren't drinking milk from a Tiger or chopping Ribyes from it
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(https://www.purina.co.uk/sites/default/files/2021-01/Article%20Hero-%20cat%20milk.jpg)
Most cats are lactose intolerant.
..and I love, LOVE being criticized on the UNPOPULAR OPINIONS thread.
Wake up, guys.
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Basically every state is some degree of fine, depending on preference and where you are. Although if you don’t like Chicago, I could see the argument Illinois has little redeeming about it.
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I am still stuck on the “ people shouldn’t have pets/animals”
Whaaat?
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After Hunter Biden's sweetheart plea deal crashed and burned he plead not guilty to the tax and firearms charges. Even though Hunter's signature is on the federal firearm form and he told the judge that he knew he didn't pay his taxes when asked. So, it is my opinion that Hunter should have plead guilty to these charges because, 1) he's clearly guilty, and 2) it would speed the process up so that his father is still President and could pardon him.
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Most cats are lactose intolerant.
..and I love, LOVE being criticized on the UNPOPULAR OPINIONS thread.
Wake up, guys.
So now drinking the milk of another animal isn't enough, they have to be able to digest it without flatulence?
Moving the goalposts, are we?
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Basically every state is some degree of fine, depending on preference and where you are. Although if you don’t like Chicago, I could see the argument Illinois has little redeeming about it.
If someone asked me where to visit in Illinois, I'd have a hard time telling them to go anywhere.
Galena maybe? Starved Rock maybe?
I'd tell them to keep driving and go North, most likely.
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What is your reasoning for this?
I think it's OK for people to have pets. One thing I've noticed is that down here, people bring them everywhere - including dinner.
That is NOT OK.
1. Some of us (like me) are allergic to them.
2. I wouldn't dine with an unwashed hairy naked man. Why should I dine with a dog?
3. It's TOO F'ING HOT out right now. Leave them home, happy in the AC.
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Everyone should move to Austin, TX.
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Gotta cut down on the methane somehow - let's go get a Ribeye
bone-in ribeye
Cowboy cut
something about drinking from your enemy's skulls
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Bread is overrated and unnecessary.
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I think it's OK for people to have pets. One thing I've noticed is that down here, people bring them everywhere - including dinner.
That is NOT OK.
1. Some of us (like me) are allergic to them.
2. I wouldn't dine with an unwashed hairy naked man. Why should I dine with a dog?
3. It's TOO F'ING HOT out right now. Leave them home, happy in the AC.
Kind of on the Restaurants to say no,unless it's a guide dog the health departments should have a huge problem with this.Obviously depending on pet owners ability to control and clean them. I've a tub next door who moved in that occassionally waitresses and she comes home at 2-3-4 in the morning and let's her two large dogs out who start barking right by my window.I've literally jumped out of bed get woken up after repeated warnings i told he rhusband this is it,This has been going on for 6 yrs now,and her husband actually understands and holds down a decent job in his mid 30s and approachable how they got hooked up I'll never know
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so, yer a cat person?
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Bread is overrated and unnecessary.
Have an actual bakery in town makes all sorts of artisan loaves - based on it's business that's false
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Pickles suck.
Yes they do, yet people are always trying to add them to a hamburger whenever I order one. I can't stand those things.
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so, yer a cat person?
actually I had one and he was outside 90% of the time. Wanted to get a dog but they're sociable and Cindy and I had seperate homes at the time. Plus the neighbor had some rescue cats and they got along great. Fed him every day but he ate a lot of chipmunks,moles,blue jays so pretty maintenance free
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Basically every state is some degree of fine, depending on preference and where you are. Although if you don’t like Chicago, I could see the argument Illinois has little redeeming about it.
If it wasn't for Chicago, Illinois would be a pretty nice place.
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If it wasn't for Chicago, Illinois would be a pretty nice place.
Have you been to Illinois?
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Golf is not a sport.
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Have you been to Illinois?
If not for Chicago the rest of the state would be very different.
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Golf is not a sport.
Good walk ruined
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I consume more beer while playing or practicing golf than in the rest of the week combined. So yeah, I concur.
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:67: Guess it's not the exercise all my pal's tell the wives/doctors they're getting
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I consume more beer while playing or practicing golf than in the rest of the week combined. So yeah, I concur.
I get more steps in while playing golf with a gas powered cart than I do in the rest of the week combined.
I can and do drink beer everywhere
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Not sure that's what they mean by multi-tasking but I'll buy that
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Golf is not a sport.
Agreed- at least at the level I play it. More like a great hobby with mild exercise attached
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Have you been to Illinois?
I have some good friends from Illinois, some in the Chicago area, others downstate. However, I also have a few friends in Wisconsin and I am familiar with the term FIB. :)
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Mustard is the most foul tasting condiment there is
Animals do not belong in restaurants
Everything taste better with cheese. Corollary, there is no such thing as too much cheese
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Animals do not belong on airplanes.
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Mustard is the most foul tasting condiment there is
Animals do not belong in restaurants
Everything taste better with cheese. Corollary, there is no such thing as too much cheese
Mustard is about the only condiment I consistently use. Ketchup is useless. Mayonaisse is a crime against humanity.
But I do like me some sriracha ketchup.
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STAR WARS is UNFORGIVABLE TRASH!
May the FORCE F**K OFF
I wish Luke never found out who his father was.
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why not just use Sriracha?
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Animals do not belong in restaurants
Animals do not belong on airplanes.
I doubt these are unpopular opinions. Just sayin'.
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Even so, I'll add the probably-popular opinion that animals don't belong in grocery stores, either.
Why do people do this? I'm not talking about service animals, I'm talking about every Tom Dick and Harry deciding it's okay to bring Fido to the grocery store and walk that dirty mutt past all of the food that's eventually going into peoples' faces.
It all started with animals at Home Depot or Lowes. Which is weird but at least it's not a health concern, other than allergies for those affected. But the grocery store? And restaurants? Sheesh. What a bunch of weirdos, thinking they need to bring their animals to those locations.
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STAR WARS is UNFORGIVABLE TRASH!
May the FORCE F**K OFF
I wish Luke never found out who his father was.
(https://i.imgur.com/jQU4dC1.gif)
I “ liked” this post- but probably don’t have the right to. I have never seen any of the Star Wars movies.
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The original Star Wars is the greatest movie of all time.
The original trilogy is the greatest movie trilogy of all time.
I have mixed opinions on the rest of the movies though, and would never argue passionately in their defense.
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Even so, I'll add the probably-popular opinion that animals don't belong in grocery stores, either.
Why do people do this? I'm not talking about service animals, I'm talking about every Tom Dick and Harry deciding it's okay to bring Fido to the grocery store and walk that dirty mutt past all of the food that's eventually going into peoples' faces.
It all started with animals at Home Depot or Lowes. Which is weird but at least it's not a health concern, other than allergies for those affected. But the grocery store? And restaurants? Sheesh. What a bunch of weirdos, thinking they need to bring their animals to those locations.
I agree with not wanting animals in grocery stores for a variety of reasons, but thinking logically here......What exactly is the health concern?
The same people carrying Fido around in a grocery store around 'packaged' food (mostly), also have Fido walking around their homes when the food is unpacked, being prepared, then post preparation, and consumption.
Millions upon millions of pet owners' food is exposed to pets, yet here we all are. Just fine.
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why not just use Sriracha?
Because sriracha ketchup tastes better.
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I have mixed opinions on the rest of the movies though, and would never argue passionately in their defense.
Rogue One is one of my favorite movies. The rest of the non-original trilogy movies suck.
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Star Trek > Star Wars
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Penn St. has the best uniform in all of sports.
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Even so, I'll add the probably-popular opinion that animals don't belong in grocery stores, either.
Why do people do this? I'm not talking about service animals, I'm talking about every Tom Dick and Harry deciding it's okay to bring Fido to the grocery store and walk that dirty mutt past all of the food that's eventually going into peoples' faces.
It all started with animals at Home Depot or Lowes. Which is weird but at least it's not a health concern, other than allergies for those affected. But the grocery store? And restaurants? Sheesh. What a bunch of weirdos, thinking they need to bring their animals to those locations.
Attention whores gonna whore.
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Rogue One is one of my favorite movies. The rest of the non-original trilogy movies suck.
Yup I liked Rogue One.
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Penn St. has the best uniform in all of sports.
You've definitely got the spirit of the thread!
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I enjoy taking my dog to PetSmart, Rural King, and other stores where its appropriate and they're welcomed. He loves being out with people and its good for his socialization. He always gets a pup cup when I go through the drive through at Dunkin' too. He's a very good boy!
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Penn St. has the best uniform in all of sports.
I love their all-white roadies.
For Texas too. And for my team.
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I love their all-white roadies.
For Texas too. And for my team.
We've always referred to them as the "Stormtrooper uniforms."
Of course, stormtroopers are inept. But then again, our football team has also been inept for the past decade+, so it's probably fitting.
I do love that the 2006 Rose Bowl upset of the ESPN-proclaimed Greatest College Football Team Of All Time, occurred in the Texas Stormtroopers.
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This notion of service animals is WAY over done. Most of them seem to be dogs wearing some kind of coat, they don't seem to provide ANY "service" to anyone. It's a scam 99% of the time. I had friends who got that "status" for their dog, they said they paid $40 or something and filled out a form and were sent the "coat".
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Mustard is the most foul tasting condiment there is
Animals do not belong in restaurants
Everything taste better with cheese. Corollary, there is no such thing as too much cheese
Most Chinese food would be weird with cheese.
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The other scam is handicap parking spaces. My wife got a card, we never use it.
Scams are scammy.
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The other scam is politicians and SCOTUS Justices writing books and getting $$$$$ book deals, and payment for speeches.
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The other scam is politicians and SCOTUS Justices writing books and getting $$$$$ book deals, and payment for speeches.
why call it a scam unless you think its a coverup for bribery
is that what you mean
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I'd call it buying influence, if not bribery, but it's "legal".
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I'd call it buying influence, if not bribery, but it's "legal".
you could be right is some cases but to simply say they cant write books or give paid speeches is too general
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I didn't say they couldn't, nor suggest that should be the case, but I do think it should be more closely regulated for ex-public "servants". They get book deals for books "nobody" reads and give speeches to folks who don't care or listen, and then the company buys books to give to their employees who largely throw them out.
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This notion of service animals is WAY over done. Most of them seem to be dogs wearing some kind of coat, they don't seem to provide ANY "service" to anyone. It's a scam 99% of the time. I had friends who got that "status" for their dog, they said they paid $40 or something and filled out a form and were sent the "coat".
This is something I have fought in my school. The ADA has made it very easy for just about anybody to get a "service" dog. There is little to no actual training or certification required and owners can actually train the dogs themselves. It is also exceedingly difficult for anyone to deny the owners their right to have their service animal in public spaces. They don't even have to be visually identified as a "service animal" (the "coat" you referenced). There are only three questions that we can ask the owner regarding their service animal:
- What specific task or service does the animal perform? (it doesn't have to be much)
- Is the animal up to date on vaccinations?
- Does that animal comply with all local ordinances regarding animals?
The only way we can deny the service animal once they are in the building is if they are disruptive or represent some sort of danger to anyone in the building. I had a student whose barely trained "service" dog was supposedly trained to sense her anxiety attacks. Basically, it was a living security blanket for the student. I have never prayed for a dog to take a dump on a carpet as much as I did with that one.
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Folks do have allergies to pet dander, as noted, I don't see how to reconcile the two.
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I didn't say they couldn't, nor suggest that should be the case, but I do think it should be more closely regulated for ex-public "servants". They get book deals for books "nobody" reads and give speeches to folks who don't care or listen, and then the company buys books to give to their employees who largely throw them out.
if they ex public servents they are pretty much free to do as they wish
There are some regulations concerning registering foy being a lobbyist but other then that its a free country
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Star Trek > Star Wars
According to Spock "I Find your Illogic And Foolish conclusion A Constant Irritant."
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Most Chinese food would be weird with cheese.
weirdly better
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The other scam is politicians and SCOTUS Justices writing books and getting $$$$$ book deals, and payment for speeches.
your book sales haven't been as lucrative?
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Not yet
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Damn Georgians are confident......the last few years
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I'm worried about UT-Martin ...
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If someone asked me where to visit in Illinois, I'd have a hard time telling them to go anywhere.
Galena maybe? Starved Rock maybe?
I'd tell them to keep driving and go North, most likely.
Is there a nice lake anywhere?
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Cairo was kind of interesting.
It would be fun to concoct a list of "places to see in each state", like the Corn Palace.
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I drove by the corn palace Monday
a few tourists milling about outside
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The Corn Palace is probably the top tourist attraction in the US.
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The Corn Palace is probably the top tourist attraction in the US.
take out the "probably" and you'd have an unpopular opinion
even for the state of SD and it's residents
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Most Chinese food would be weird with cheese.
Place near me does high concept ramen that involves some cheese.
It’s not bad, but it just sits in your stomach.
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Most Chinese food would be weird with cheese.
I stand by my statement :)
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Asians generally view cheese as spoiled milk, or so I understand it, they prefer thousand year old eggs.
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I stand by my statement :)
Hey theres no cheese in Chinese
If you want cheese order Mexican and leave Chinese the hell alone
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Um, Mexican. A new "South American" place just opened, we enjoyed it. They have flaminco at night they say, and something called a "fire drill", which is not something I normally enjoy.
Our Menu | AltaToro | Midtown Atlanta (https://altatoro.com/atlanta-midtown-atlanta-altatoro-food-menu)
We get pretty good "mex" here because there are so many of them around. The cook at our favorite ramen place is from mexico, really nice guy.
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I'd rather hit my blade 2 iron than a rescue club from 240 out.
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I'd rather hit my blade 2 iron than a rescue club from 240 out.
3 wood for me
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me too, might roll over the green but not too far
I have a 3-iron, but it's as unpredictable as a 2-iron and goes about 220-225 when I flush it.
Which isn't often
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Rogue One is one of my favorite movies. The rest of the non-original trilogy movies suck.
The Darth Vader hallway scene....
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When's the last time anyone here saw a 1-iron?
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When's the last time anyone here saw a 1-iron?
Years…LOL. The hybrid club and Driving Irons have dominated.
whenever someone mentions a one iron, it reminds me of the famous quote by Lee Trevino: if you ever get caught on the course during lightning, just grab your one iron-because even God can’t hit a one iron.
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Is there a nice lake anywhere?
Sure, but unless you're on the North Shore you are risking your life to get to it.
It's better from Wisconsin (sans Milwaukee).
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You can put cheese on a rat or snake and call it authentic Chinese food.
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The theory of evolution is just as well proven as the theory of climate change ....
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When's the last time anyone here saw a 1-iron?
I carried one in the late 90s but have since moved to a 2 iron and have had the same one for over 20 years. It was a Ping eye-2 1-iron. The 2 is a Mizuno
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Same. I have a Ping Crossover 2 Iron that I trust so much more than my 3 wood. When I hit my 3 wood well it's beautiful. But.... well, you can probably guess.
I bought an old Alien driving iron off of Ebay just to play around with. I can't keep it out of my bag now. It's perfect for short and/or narrow par 4's. It's great to have on those days where my driver isn't cooperating as well.
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The Darth Vader hallway scene....
I love that the movie is just darker and a little more edgy than previous Star Wars movies. It's not the campy, happy stuff. War is dirty and cruel in Rogue One and the good guys aren't always good.
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You can put cheese on a rat or snake and call it authentic Chinese food.
...or a bat.
Too soon?
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Never too soon.
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The theory of evolution is just as well proven as the theory of climate change ....
Mendel was a fraud
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Oh that reminds me, this is probably the correct thread for it-- I really can't stand Ozzy. I'm okay with most of his Black Sabbath stuff, but his solo stuff is not my cup of tea.
"Crazy Train" makes me want to scrape my ears off my body.
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Mendel was a fraud
That apparently is true, he cooked his books.
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Oh that reminds me, this is probably the correct thread for it-- I really can't stand Ozzy. I'm okay with most of his Black Sabbath stuff, but his solo stuff is not my cup of tea.
"Crazy Train" makes me want to scrape my ears off my body.
Wrong.
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Wrong.
Journey, good.
Ozzy, bad.
I have spoken.
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Journey, good.
Ozzy, bad.
I have spoken.
Yes.
No.
Blowhard.
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Alternative rock in the 90's was neither revolutionary nor innovative. It was just rock music marketed well.
But I still love it.
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Alternative rock in the 90's was neither revolutionary nor innovative. It was just rock music marketed well.
But I still love it.
That's kind of pan-genre statement is horse paste but this is exactly the place for it.
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Alternative rock in the 90's was neither revolutionary nor innovative. It was just rock music marketed well.
But I still love it.
We've talked a lot about this on these message boards over the years.
Rock music really hasn't changed much since the early/mid 90s. Many songs that come out now, sound like they could have come out in 2013, or 2003, or 1993. One of the main drivers for that, is the lack of rapid invention/innovation in musical instrumentation and musical production, that we saw in decades prior to that.
In 1993, you could absolutely tell the difference from a song that came out in 1983. And in 1983, you could tell the difference from a song that came out in 1973, and the same for 73 versus 63, and so on.
Synthesizers, electric guitars vs. acoustic, the advent of guitar pedals, advances in production techniques, and the changes from analog to digital recording and reproduction, are just some of the factors that dramatically changed the sound of music over all of those decades prior to the 90s. But since then, the rate of advancement has significantly slowed. And consequently, the rate of change in the sound of music has effectively stagnated.
I'm not complaining or saying it's a good or bad thing-- a lot of the "experimentation" that went into the evolution of music from the 50s through the 80s ended up sucking. There's plenty of bad music from all decades and from all genres. But I do find it interesting to discuss and explore how music has really stopped evolving at a rapid pace, in recent decades.
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Alternative rock in the 90's was neither revolutionary nor innovative. It was just rock music marketed well.
But I still love it.
It wasn't until Nirvana that bands stopped cosplaying the Rolling Stones
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I wouldn't call Nirvana alternative. It's grunge.
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There have been very few innovative bands since the mid-90's. Incubus is one that I like. They kind of blended that alternative rock sound with elements of urban music in a very unique way. They didn't last long though.
Tool is another unique band. The lyrics can be disturbing but the actual musical talent is great. When you really hone in and listen to the individual instruments, they are incredibly talented. They can also sound like a 70's southern rock band on one song and then turn around and be a 2000's progressive heavy metal band on the next. They're very interesting.
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I wouldn't call Nirvana alternative. It's grunge.
Grunge is a subset of alternative.
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Is there any current music worth listening to?
I listen to a lot of 200+ year old stuff.
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Grunge is a subset of alternative.
Agree, grunge was one subset of alternative.
And there are plenty of bands doing some interesting fusion things, Incubus was one 25 years ago, Muse is one now. But since they're really just combining elements of existing musical styles, it could have come out in 1997, or 2007, or 2017.
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Is there any current music worth listening to?
I listen to a lot of 200+ year old stuff.
I like a lot of current music.
I like a lot of music from 400 years ago.
I hate music from 200 years ago.
Just kidding.
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Grunge is a subset of alternative.
Wrong.
;)
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Grunge (sometimes referred to as the Seattle sound) is an alternative rock genre and subculture that emerged during the mid-1980s in the American state of Washington, particularly in Seattle and nearby towns. Grunge fuses elements of punk rock and heavy metal, but without punk's structure and speed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge#:~:text=Grunge%20(sometimes%20referred%20to%20as,without%20punk's%20structure%20and%20speed.
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Wrong.
;)
"Alternative rock" is by definition an alternative form of "traditional" rock.
If grunge isn't a subset of alternative, then it's just "rock" and doesn't need to be called grunge.
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"Alternative rock" is by definition an alternative form of "traditional" rock.
If grunge isn't a subset of alternative, then it's just "rock" and doesn't need to be called grunge.
I guess you could argue that an offshoot subgenre like Punk persisted long enough to have its own name and its own standing, and not be categorized underneath Alternative Rock.
And then you could argue that Grunge did the same thing.
But Grunge didn't have nearly enough staying power to earn that distinction, and even though Punk arguably has, it's STILL generally classified as a subset of Alternative Rock.
Therefore, Grunge is a subset of Alternative Rock.
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Rock
Metal
Punk
Alternative
Grunge
Country
Your music menu. Thank me later.
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I guess you could argue that an offshoot subgenre like Punk persisted long enough to have its own name and its own standing, and not be categorized underneath Alternative Rock.
And then you could argue that Grunge did the same thing.
But Grunge didn't have nearly enough staying power to earn that distinction, and even though Punk arguably has, it's STILL generally classified as a subset of Alternative Rock.
Therefore, Grunge is a subset of Alternative Rock.
Tough to do that when everyone is dead.
I did see Soundgarden live shortly before Chris Cornell killed himself.
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Baroque (don't fix it)
Classical
Romantic
Jazz
Blues
Big Band
Lawrence Welk
Then the music died...
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Tough to do that when everyone is dead.
I did see Soundgarden live shortly before Chris Cornell killed himself.
Speaking of which, it's a miracle Kurt Cobain lived as long as he did. That man had many, many issues.
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Baroque (don't fix it)
Classical
Romantic
Jazz
Blues
Big Band
Lawrence Welk
Then the music died...
Big Band is a subset of Jazz. Lawrence Welk is a subset of Big Band.
Baroque is a subset of Classical.
The blues are the blues.
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Tough to do that when everyone is dead.
I did see Soundgarden live shortly before Chris Cornell killed himself.
Pearl Jam's not dead.
Although everything after Vitalogy sucked, hard. And even Vitalogy is half questionable.
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Big Band is a subset of Jazz. Lawrence Welk is a subset of Big Band.
Baroque is a subset of Classical.
The blues are the blues.
Some might say Rock is just alternative Blues.
I mean, I'm not saying that... Jus' sayin'.
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Pearl Jam's not dead.
Although everything after Vitalogy sucked, hard. And even Vitalogy is half questionable.
One of the few.
Agreed on the music for sure. I stopped buying after No Code.
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Some might say Rock is just alternative Blues.
I mean, I'm not saying that... Jus' sayin'.
I wouldn't argue if someone wanted to say that. :)
You could also say Rock is Alternative Country.
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Big Band is a subset of Jazz. Lawrence Welk is a subset of Big Band.
Baroque is a subset of Classical.
The blues are the blues.
Folks (like me) usually divide what folks call "classical" music into those three periods (and then include 20th century, most of which is garbage to me, but not all).
I'd say Baroque is about as different from Classical as blues is from jazz.
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Folks (like me) usually divide what folks call "classical" music into those three periods (and then include 20th century, most of which is garbage to me, but not all).
I'd say Baroque is about as different from Classical as blues is from jazz.
It's a bit misleading because there is a period called Classical, and then the entire genre is referred to as "classical."
And there are actually more distinctions-- there's Medieval and Renaissance before the Baroque period, all of which fall under the general umbrella of what people refer to as "classical music."
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I wouldn't argue if someone wanted to say that. :)
You could also say Rock is Alternative Country.
Yep. And many actually do argue that rock itself is Blues/Country fusion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockabilly).
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Yep. And many actually do argue that rock itself is Blues/Country fusion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockabilly).
Oh I don't think that's an argument. I'd say that's HISTORY.
There was a popular class at UT back in the 80s and 90s called "The History of Rock and Roll." All the athletes took it. I of course did not, because I was an engineer and we never got to take ANY fun classes.
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https://youtu.be/vS-zEH8YmiM
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XM 34 Lithium, or as my kids and I say, the Dead guy station.
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XM 34 Lithium, or as my kids and I say, the Dead guy station.
That's my go to. Although they wear the same songs out.....over and over.
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That's my go to. Although they wear the same songs out.....over and over.
I've actually switched back to mostly terrestrial radio for that reason. They don't overplay the same songs as much as the genre-specific satellite radio stations do.
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I've actually switched back to mostly terrestrial radio for that reason. They don't overplay the same songs as much as the genre-specific satellite radio stations do.
wheres Johnny Fever when you need him
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I've actually switched back to mostly terrestrial radio for that reason. They don't overplay the same songs as much as the genre-specific satellite radio stations do.
Agreed.
The only problem where I'm at is, the terrestrial stations are R&B, rap, or country.
We only had a few rock stations to begin with, and now they're all rebranded to country.
How many stations in one market really need to be playing Luke Bryan?
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Agreed.
The only problem where I'm at is, the terrestrial stations are R&B, rap, or country.
We only had a few rock stations to begin with, and now they're all rebranded to country.
How many stations in one market really need to be playing Luke Bryan?
My answer to that specific question, would be... zero.
I love country music, was born and raised on it, but don't like much of the new mainstream stuff. Especially not the so-called "Bro Country."
Luckily for me, we have two country stations in Austin that play mostly the older stuff.
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that gives me an idea for the crappy music thread
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My answer to that specific question, would be... zero.
I love country music, was born and raised on it, but don't like much of the new mainstream stuff. Especially not the so-called "Bro Country."
Luckily for me, we have two country stations in Austin that play mostly the older stuff.
XM 58 Prime Country for me.
Of the newbies, I kind of like Luke Combs. He doesn't seem like a chick.
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Not sure I could pick Luke Combs out of a new country lineup. :)
There are some new(ish) Alt Country and/or Rockabilly type country acts that I like. But mainsteam modern country to me, is much the same thing as the overly polished and overly produced Nashville sound of the late 60s and 70s. It's the thing that the Outlaw Country movement led by Willie and Waylon, rebelled against and formed as a direct counter to that stuff.
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The only proper way to prepare a steak is a ribeye cooked medium rare over charcoal with hickory chips sprinkled in. The steak must be seared in a hotter-than-hell cast iron skillet with melted butter, garlic, thyme, and onions before throwing it on the grill. It must be lightly spiced with a combination of salt and lemon pepper seasoning.
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Luke Combs has some funny songs. He also redid Tracy Chapman's "Fast Car" recently and it's a really solid remake of a song that I didn't think anyone, much less a male country artist, would do justice. Kinda like Johnny Cash and NiN's "Hurt". When I heard he did it, I was like "WTF?" And then when I hear the song, I thought it was an amazing take.
My wife's a Country fan, so I get a lot of exposure. Really enjoy Brothers Osborne.
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The only proper way to prepare a steak is a ribeye cooked medium rare over charcoal with hickory chips sprinkled in. The steak must be seared in a hotter-than-hell cast iron skillet with melted butter, garlic, thyme, and onions before throwing it on the grill. It must be lightly spiced with a combination of salt and lemon pepper seasoning.
Not going to say I agree that's the "only" way to cook a steak, but it is certainly a damn good one.
Until you said "lemon pepper".
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3 Doors Down is an underrated band.
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3 Doors Down is an underrated band.
I agree. I'm curious to see if the masses will render this an unpopular opinion. :)
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I agree. I'm curious to see if the masses will render this an unpopular opinion. :)
The acoustic version of Landing in London is great.
https://open.spotify.com/track/7wiFtbehWeoeM4HDI5Jqnl?si=3fae20e9ab6c4332
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I agree. I'm curious to see if the masses will render this an unpopular opinion. :)
Nope. Some great tunes.
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Jessica Alba is not, and never was....hot.
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Jessica Alba is not, and never was....hot.
Well, that's certainly unpopular in this man's humble opinion.
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Wow. That is definitely an opinion fit for this thread.
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Lock It - that one won't be topped,did gvol fall out of the Hindenberg? ;D
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Lock It - that one won't be topped,did gvol fall out of the Hindenberg? ;D
Bringing the heat. ;)
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Jessica Alba is not, and never was....hot.
But now I'm curious, what popular actress, model, or singer, do you believe actually IS hot?
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But now I'm curious, what popular actress, model, or singer, do you believe actually IS hot?
I'm still a fool for Jennifer Aniston. Even though she is old.
Margot Robbie -- holy sh*t.
Gal Gadot
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Margo Robbie is a dog.
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:043:
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Wow y'all really are bringing the heat on the terrible opinions today. Well done.
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What can I say. She does nothing for me.
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I'm still a fool for Jennifer Aniston. Even though she is old.
Margot Robbie -- holy sh*t.
Gal Gadot
Interesting. Most people think Gal Gadot and Jessica Alba look strikingly similar.
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Interesting. Most people think Gal Gadot and Jessica Alba look strikingly similar.
Uh no.
(https://i.imgur.com/niGRBex.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0RzdwEA.jpg)
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Uh no.
(https://i.imgur.com/niGRBex.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0RzdwEA.jpg)
No wonder you don’t like Alba. That’s the worst pic of her I have seen.
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I don't know that I'd say she looks like Gal Gadot but that's a pretty terrible picture of her.
I was kinda partial to her in this shot:
(https://i.imgur.com/A3HyqZM.jpg)
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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jessica+alba&t=iphone&iax=images&ia=images
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All of the women listed are smoke shows.
Shit, if you know any actress by name and she doesn't have an Oscar, guess what: she's hot!
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Prime Jessica Alba was as good an example of perfection as anyone.
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(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-02-2018/Ij77Vn.gif)
You could be picky and want bigger jugs, but that's it.
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Maybe not an unpopular opinion, but certainly very unpopular with my peers.
The United States should adopt a universal health care system, similar to most Western European countries, and end healthcare as a perk of your job.
Caveat: I’m hugely against government deficit spending. I’m also hugely against more taxes, unless those taxes offset the costs we pay now.
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Btw I’m not opposed to individuals maintaining private coverage as long as they pay for it on their own and they cannot deduct the costs from their taxes.
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Maybe not an unpopular opinion, but certainly very unpopular with my peers.
The United States should adopt a universal health care system, similar to most Western European countries, and end healthcare as a perk of your job.
Caveat: I’m hugely against government deficit spending. I’m also hugely against more taxes, unless those taxes offset the costs we pay now.
and remember if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor
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(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-02-2018/Ij77Vn.gif)
You could be picky and want bigger jugs, but that's it.
I’m not that picky. Lol.
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Maybe not an unpopular opinion, but certainly very unpopular with my peers.
The United States should adopt a universal health care system, similar to most Western European countries, and end healthcare as a perk of your job.
Caveat: I’m hugely against government deficit spending. I’m also hugely against more taxes, unless those taxes offset the costs we pay now.
I actually kind of agree. It's a tricky subject. And what we're doing here in the US, well....it ain't it.
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Penn State didn't get any game protected so that the Big Ten could avoid the OSU-Michigan rematch in the CCG, as the Lions get to fatten up on cupcakes to the tune of 10 or 11 wins per year.
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just beat Michigan, OK????
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Maybe not an unpopular opinion, but certainly very unpopular with my peers.
The United States should adopt a universal health care system, similar to most Western European countries, and end healthcare as a perk of your job.
I know on this issue I'm fervently against the employer-based system. It creates inefficiencies that make being a business harder, starting a business harder and being an employee who wants to chase something different hard. It also only works if you use government subsidies anyway.
In a utopia, I'd love to go to a full market system, with the government picking up the functionally uninsurable. But the shock of that change would be such a mess, a slow bleed toward universal healthcare is probably the most clean outcome.
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allowing the government to manage ANYTHING is a nightmare
not just an inefficient problem
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And yet there are just some things that really only the govt should manage.
And then sometimes I wonder if the govt is really all that bad? They manage the airlines/air travel. Seems pretty safe to me? They manage the food supply and regulation. A-OK to me. Health standards, work standards, interstate roadway system, the radio spectrum. Lots and lots of stuff. I can’t really complain. The air is definitely much cleaner than when I was a kid.
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Red fescue is better than Kentucky blue grass in the Midwest for your lawn.
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Red fescue is better than Kentucky blue grass in the Midwest for your lawn.
I think I used a blend, but the KBG needed watering a lot.
We walked to dinner last night and got rained on a bit, had to stop and docu under at one point. I had forgotten how much rain we get around here. Cincy would start looking brown and barren about now usually, here everything is dark green.
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Maybe not an unpopular opinion, but certainly very unpopular with my peers.
The United States should adopt a universal health care system, similar to most Western European countries, and end healthcare as a perk of your job.
Caveat: I’m hugely against government deficit spending. I’m also hugely against more taxes, unless those taxes offset the costs we pay now.
Swiss model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland).
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Swiss model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland).
Explain?
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Explain?
Sorry, it was a link to the Wikipedia article on the Swiss healthcare model, which I think is a far superior model (and far more amenable to Americans) than a typical government-run (i.e. British NIH) or a single-payer (i.e. most of Europe) model.
To an extent, it's similar to what would happen if you got ride of employer-sponsored insurance, got rid of Medicare, and all you had left was a tightly-regulated but private individual insurance market. They have an individual mandate so everyone actually has insurance, and subsidies so nobody pays more than 8% of their income on health insurance.
The insurance that they mandate is not some gold-plated "we'll take care of everything" insurance, so a lot of people have a secondary insurance for that aspect. And that secondary insurance is less regulated. To an extent I *think* that is an incentive for insurers to perform well, because they're trying to attract customers for secondary insurance. Since the primary market is barred from profit-making, the secondary market is [obviously] more lucrative for the insurers.
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Yeah that model would definitely be more palatable to many Americans.
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I didn’t see the link to Wikipedia on your post. I didn’t know the Swiss followed that model.
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One point that can't be debated "SEINFELD" SUCKED and while we're at it "FRIENDS"was the worst
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Yeah, Seinfeld was the worst! Making the colorful friends the actual focus and the boring comedian just kind of the hub. Some of the greatest side characters of all time (J.Peterman, Puddy, Soup Nazi, etc) and endless quotes.
Larry David was the master of bringing things back around, full circle. Both on Seinfeld and Curb.
Terrible.
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Perhaps the main reason we don't have government health care is income taxes. Back in the day, the marginal rates got so high on high income that companies sought ways to compensate high level employees without taxable income. The IRS ruled health insurance was not taxable income. So, company paid HI became the norm for larger companies. It was a very large nontaxable benefit, and the companies could write it off as an expense (so yje Feds basically pay for part of it).
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Yeah, Seinfeld was the worst! Making the colorful friends the actual focus and the boring comedian just kind of the hub. Some of the greatest side characters of all time (J.Peterman, Puddy, Soup Nazi, etc) and endless quotes.
There were a few episodes that were good and the soup nazi was indeed one of them "don't push your luck little man". One show about going to a funeral and had to take a flight out of town and going to the after funeral gathering/dinner and a ruckus breaks out because someone double dipped - using the other side of the same chip. That waspretty good.
I liked Home Improvement,Becker,That '70s Show and Two and a Half Men. Prolly toss Monk in there also
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Yes, tethering HC Benefits to our employment was a direct result of the Stabilization Act in the early 40s. Efforts to fight inflation and encourage women and others into the workforce.
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And it was popular
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Sure, employees get a nice benefit worth money and pay no taxes on it. Employers offer said benefit and get a tax write off. I recall when I was job searching in 1980, I was advised to ask if they provided "free" health insurance. All the big companies did, and for me, it was free at the time, zero copay, nothing at all. Delivery of my kids was free except I paid a small amount to get a private room for my then wife.
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One point that can't be debated "SEINFELD" SUCKED and while we're at it "FRIENDS"was the worst
Agree on Seinfeld. Friends too.
Friends created a lot of bad.
So many people never got a clue that to go to WORK, you have to actually leave the coffee shop.
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Yes, tethering HC Benefits to our employment was a direct result of the Stabilization Act in the early 40s. Efforts to fight inflation and encourage women and others into the workforce.
Capitalism always finds a way. We capped prices but left other avenues for competitive comp open, and there it was.
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Agree on Seinfeld. Friends too.
Friends created a lot of bad.
Counterpoint:
(https://i.imgur.com/6x0IqOj.jpg)
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thats just marketing
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New Chick-fil-A ‘elevated drive-thru’ restaurant design coming to Atlanta. Here’s what it will look like (ajc.com) (https://www.ajc.com/life/new-chick-fil-a-elevated-drive-thru-restaurant-design-coming-to-atlanta-heres-what-it-will-look-like/P2JBAUYTWJG3PFGCR3OVUIIJQA/?fbclid=IwAR1Iv7vFW0JcaYK6oFmq9PbQl5zVWLiVrenbGDm-zedVQiu7hOilHN2fpAg)
No sit down, all drive thru or ordering ahead pickup.
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Unpopular opinion: Chick-fil-A is a terrible chicken sandwich. Damp, soggy, and tasteless.
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Key to solving damp and soggy is to order without pickles, then they have to make it fresh. And because pickles are the devil, it makes the sandwich better anyway.
Tasteless? Man, can't agree with you there. The spicy Chik fil A is like crack to me.
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They are insanely popular, around here anyway. Every one I pass has a double line of cars waiting on takeout. We have one in two blocks of us, I don't go very often, they are dine in only, and they have a line at lunch. They got pretty expensive of late.
When I was a kid, that was an upscale treat, and they were only in malls. I don't recall there being any outside ATL.
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I don't get the hype.
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Popeye’s > CFA
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I've gotten spicier chicken from the hot case at Cub than the spicy stuff from Popeyes.
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chic fil a hype?
Popeyes?
me either
I never go there
like other fast food
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I think CFA's main appeal is they are polite and clean. The sandwich is OK (to me) and the waffle fries are pretty decent, but really, it's a pleasant experience, in my opinion. They do something right. When we're out, I notice the usual fast food places with 2-3 cars in the lot and one in the drive thru and the CFA across the street is slammed. This was true in Cincy as well.
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Unpopular opinion: Chick-fil-A is a terrible chicken sandwich. Damp, soggy, and tasteless.
Maybe just a bad employee who slapped it together. The limited times I've had grub there it was decent bordering damn good
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chic fil a hype?
Popeyes?
me either
I never go there
like other fast food
Popeye's? FFS that place started out as cheap alternative but somewhere along the line they figured they were upscale. The menu didn't change but their prices did - before things spiked the last few years
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first popeyes opened here a year or 2 ago
big hype and excitement
now it's just a normal option of fast food
I haven't tried it
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Popeye's is supposed to be cajun(ish) fried chicken and sides. It's okay. Agree with GR that their "spicy" isn't very spicy.
They must not pay as well as other fast food places though, because around here at least, their workers are consistently less accurate, and less pleasant, than everywhere else. Polar opposite to the Chik fil A experience, as CD noted above.
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I like cajun spicy, but not headed to Popeye's
I'm guessing it's pretty bland fried food and not very good
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Maybe just a bad employee who slapped it together. The limited times I've had grub there it was decent bordering damn good
Granted it's only the locations around MSP, but I've gotten them from multiple places in multiple formats (drive thru, sit down, and Coffman Union hot case). Every one of them has been soggy and tasteless.
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I actually like it when Notre Dame is good.
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Not a fan of CFA for just about anything other than their breakfast chicken biscuit, which is fantastic.
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Dangit now I want some CfA for lunch!
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We had lunch at a place called "The Office Bar" in a new building (that now houses Google). I think nearly everyone else there works for google, a lot of them had the same kind of headphone on their head. We both had their poke bowl, which was decent.
I prefer dining out at lunch to dinner, my unpopular opinion of the day.
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Kosher salt is desiged to exsanguinate meat to meet Jewish dietary guildelines. It really has no other practical use.
Sea salt is pretty much just salt, with a few impurities in it, not enough to alter any flavors really. My wife likes it, I think it's a waste of $$.
Grinding salt is a waste of time and effort.
Grinding pepper isn't.
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One point that can't be debated "SEINFELD" SUCKED and while we're at it "FRIENDS"was the worst
If I had a glove I’d smack your face with it.
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A guy at work said I should watch Seinfeld, and I did a couple episodes, didn't get it at all. Later I watched some reruns and started to somewhat like it, I'd watch when "bored" (and not posting here). More recently, I will flip to some rerun and watch 5 monutes and think "Meh". Some aspects were quite good, many were not, kind of like the old SNL when some things were actually funny and clever.
The main rerun the wife and I like is Law and Order.
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I've gotten to where I just can't and won't watch reruns of anything. Not enough time in my day. If I'm going to spend time watching television, then it has to be something new.
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We don't watch much, or I don't anyway, she watches a fair bit on her own. I may watch while I'm fixing dinner or something.
I watch the Braves often as not, and they have some very lengthy rather pointless pregame show.
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I've gotten to where I just can't and won't watch reruns of anything. Not enough time in my day. If I'm going to spend time watching television, then it has to be something new.
I’m basically the exact opposite. I feel like I don’t have the time or energy to invest in anything new. I basically flip to something I know I like and watch that.
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I couldn't name a single current TV program. Or popular music song.
I've gotten old.
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I don't watch much television at all, anyway. I used to watch a lot of live sports but even that has diminished to only catching the Longhorn football game when I can.
When I do watch something, it has to be something new. I've enjoyed The Mandalorian series set in the Star Wars universe. Andor is on my list, but I haven't had time.
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We have enjoyed the Lincoln Lawyer series on Netflix and the new Justified on FX
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Andor was quite good IMO.
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Indian food is the best asian food ...
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I don't watch much television at all, anyway.
I only have over-the-air antenna now,not paying for streaming. If everyone dropped them we'd find out almost immediately how necessary they actually are. The only problem with the OTA reception as I spend prolly 5-10% of the time adjusting the damn thing
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I’m basically the exact opposite. I feel like I don’t have the time or energy to invest in anything new. I basically flip to something I know I like and watch that.
This is what I do with The Office, but only seasons 1-6. I can't go past Jim and Pam's Wedding in season 6 and I can barely make it there most of the time. The show was already in it's death spiral well before Steve Carell left. How's that for an unpopular opinion?
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Andor was quite good IMO.
Concur. Loved it.
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Indian food is the best asian food ...
Hmmm, I'm trying to decide whether this will end up qualifying as unpopular, or not. Lots of people love Indian food.
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I enjoy it, but the opinion that is the best is just plain wrong.
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Hmmm, I'm trying to decide whether this will end up qualifying as unpopular, or not. Lots of people love Indian food.
I love deer,rabbit,squirrel,elk,bison,turkey - the 3 sisters(corn,beans,squash) sweet potatoes,wild rice........
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This is what I do with The Office, but only seasons 1-6. I can't go past Jim and Pam's Wedding in season 6 and I can barely make it there most of the time. The show was already in it's death spiral well before Steve Carell left. How's that for an unpopular opinion?
Nah, I would largely agree.
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Indian food is the best asian food ...
Hmmm, I'm trying to decide whether this will end up qualifying as unpopular, or not. Lots of people love Indian food.
I enjoy it, but the opinion that is the best is just plain wrong.
I think the issue most people have with Indian food is that it's "weird" and has "weird names" and sauces that they don't know what anything is. We've been inundated with American Chinese so a lot of people know Chinese food (or the American facsimile anyway). Japanese is pretty well known as well. Thai is very common, and at least if it's not well-known, what you're getting is identifiable.
Personally, I like Indian food. Half the time I don't know what I'm eating, but it sure is delicious!
However, I will say that the opinion that it's the best Asian food is one I do not share. There aren't enough beef dishes :57:
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Indian food is the best asian food ...
Is this a trolling thread now, or still unpopular?
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I love deer,rabbit,squirrel,elk,bison,turkey - the 3 sisters(corn,beans,squash) sweet potatoes,wild rice........
Never heard that before.
I know of the holy trinity (celery, peppers, onion) in cajun food (gumbo, jumbalaya, etouffee).
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Indian food is the best asian food ...
To me Indian food all tastes the same. Some of it can be quite hot which I like.
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I've tried eating Indian food on multiple occasions. Every one of those times has found me passing water for three days afterwards.
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I've tried eating Indian food on multiple occasions. Every one of those times has found me passing water for three days afterwards.
Is it unpopular to say I don’t consider that too much of a downside? I mean, assuming the three days is a bit of an overt statement.
Nashville hot chicken and barbecue also cause me gastrointestinal distress. But they are pretty good.
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However, I will say that the opinion that it's the best Asian food is one I do not share. There aren't enough beef dishes :57:
Exactly.
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Is this a trolling thread now, or still unpopular?
Is there really any difference? :)
I'm still thinking about what my favorite Asian cuisine is. I really like Indian food, but it's probably not Indian food.
My favorite single dish might be a Vietnamese pho, I crave that stuff.
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Is there really any difference? :)
I'm still thinking about what my favorite Asian cuisine is. I really like Indian food, but it's probably not Indian food.
My favorite single dish might be a Vietnamese pho, I crave that stuff.
Mine is either Indian or Vietnamese, primarily Banh Mi. That might be because I haven’t lived in a town with good Chinese food in what feels like forever.
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is India really part of Asia?
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Korean.
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Indian food?
There are several sorts... India is a big place. Eastern Indian can be much like Chinese. Southern Indian is what I think folks here think of when Indian food is mentioned.
Mumbai is a place you best be careful... I effed up in a major way, there... I drank a glass of water at a swanky restaurant and paid dearly- case of "Mumbai shit pie" ensued and I made it worse when I took unisom instead of imodium ad...
That was a bad couple days.
The worse ever though was after risking it for a week during Ramadan and eating nothing but rotisserie I "think" goat sold at a roadside stand in the desert of Qatar.. it was the only place open selling any kind of food during the day and the only time I had to get out... I think "they" looked the other way and left it open for the workers from elsewhere who weren't Muslim. That food was fine as can be, but when I made it to a Starbucks just before they closed one morning and got a chicken salad pita? Hell broke loose.
It was pouring from both ends for two full days and I was forced to decide which I'd rather clean off floor... fortunately, the villa I was in had the bathrooms ceramic tiled from ceiling to floor with a drain in floor... and had what was intended for spraying your ass when finished "wand", which was the same thing as a kitchen retractable sprayer, hanging on the wall beside the toilet. I went back in there with a bottle of dish soap which I slung everywhere and sprayed everything down the drain... I had a little Pakistani dude who cleaned for us, but I couldn't do that to him. It was bad. I've hated Starbucks everywhere since.
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I’m basically the exact opposite. I feel like I don’t have the time or energy to invest in anything new. I basically flip to something I know I like and watch that.
Same here. At night before going to sleep the wife and I watch 2 episodes of one of sitcoms that we are rewatching. We generally rotate betwen Friends, Seinfeld, Last Man Standing, Fraser, Cheers, etc.
In the evening we may be binge watching, Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad, Sopranoes, Justified and others
You know you are going to like them and rewatching is just as good as watching the first time
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We had Indian for lunch yesterday and I was pondering this point. We both really like Asian cuisine, a lot, there isn't one we don't like. Really good Chinese is really good, to me, a fair bit of it is just "sort of OK good" to me, but some is superb. Japanese, sign me up. Korean? Bibimbop del sol, yup. Vietnamese? Yup. Phillipine? Yup. Malaysian? What I've had was really good. Thai? All day.
Globally, I'm all over Mex, south American, Tex Mex, Frrench, Italian ... the kinds I don't care for is a shorter list. We have two excellent Indian places near us so that is a factor, and to me, it all tastes quite different from each other and is superb. We get something called thali sag often for lunch and it comes with five very different dishes and naan (which to me is not the greatest).
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Same here. At night before going to sleep the wife and I watch 2 episodes of one of sitcoms that we are rewatching. We generally rotate betwen Friends, Seinfeld, Last Man Standing, Fraser, Cheers, etc.
In the evening we may be binge watching, Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad, Sopranoes, Justified and others
You know you are going to like them and rewatching is just as good as watching the first time
one of the benefits of getting old is when you watch a rerun its like seeing it for the first time
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Korean food is good.
I am partial to an Indian couple in our hood that own a Fusion restaurant nearby, they are quite clever in their offerings which rep. China, India l, Japan Korea and even Afghani.
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We had Indian for lunch yesterday and I was pondering this point. We both really like Asian cuisine, a lot, there isn't one we don't like. Really good Chinese is really good, to me, a fair bit of it is just "sort of OK good" to me, but some is superb. Japanese, sign me up. Korean? Bibimbop del sol, yup. Vietnamese? Yup. Phillipine? Yup. Malaysian? What I've had was really good. Thai? All day.
Globally, I'm all over Mex, south American, Tex Mex, Frrench, Italian ... the kinds I don't care for is a shorter list. We have two excellent Indian places near us so that is a factor, and to me, it all tastes quite different from each other and is superb. We get something called thali sag often for lunch and it comes with five very different dishes and naan (which to me is not the greatest).
Yeah I don't think there's a single style of food or regional cuisine that I don't like. There are some dishes I like more than others, and there are some specific foods/ingredients I don't like (I'm looking at you, cucumbers!). And there are some restaurants that just don't make good food, regardless of style, although they tend to perish quickly.
But I've never had a problem finding something I liked, no matter where in the world I was eating.
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German food is not something I aspire to find. I've been in Germany, it's no better there. Home cooking in England that I've had was quite good, in restaurants? Not at all, bland and so so. I eat Indian/Paki when I'm there mostly. The food in Copenhagen was pretty good but not superb, except one French place we found. Ha. We had great good in Belgium, but they are basically French....
I missed really good food in Barcelona somehow, we just lucked into mediocre spots. Of course, in Rome we had to have authentic pizza at a Pizza Hut.
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Indian food?
There are several sorts... India is a big place. Eastern Indian can be much like Chinese. Southern Indian is what I think folks here think of when Indian food is mentioned.
Mumbai is a place you best be careful... I effed up in a major way, there... I drank a glass of water at a swanky restaurant and paid dearly- case of "Mumbai shit pie" ensued and I made it worse when I took unisom instead of imodium ad...
That was a bad couple days.
The worse ever though was after risking it for a week during Ramadan and eating nothing but rotisserie I "think" goat sold at a roadside stand in the desert of Qatar.. it was the only place open selling any kind of food during the day and the only time I had to get out... I think "they" looked the other way and left it open for the workers from elsewhere who weren't Muslim. That food was fine as can be, but when I made it to a Starbucks just before they closed one morning and got a chicken salad pita? Hell broke loose.
It was pouring from both ends for two full days and I was forced to decide which I'd rather clean off floor... fortunately, the villa I was in had the bathrooms ceramic tiled from ceiling to floor with a drain in floor... and had what was intended for spraying your ass when finished "wand", which was the same thing as a kitchen retractable sprayer, hanging on the wall beside the toilet. I went back in there with a bottle of dish soap which I slung everywhere and sprayed everything down the drain... I had a little Pakistani dude who cleaned for us, but I couldn't do that to him. It was bad. I've hated Starbucks everywhere since.
Man, our water system is great
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One of the best meals I've ever had was in Barcelona, a fantastic seafood paella and plenty of rose' wine.
We have a couple of pan-European restaurants in town that serve some German dishes, they're actually quite tasty. I'll order rabbit pretty much any time I see it on a menu, and the German hasenpfeffer dish at one of these restaurants, is better than any rabbit dish I've ever had anywhere else, including all the time I spent in France.
Sadly my absolute favorite of the pan-European restaurants, failed during COVID. Their hasenpfeffer wasn't quite as good, but their French dishes were off the charts.
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I dislike Starbucks anyway, but seeing them in Paris is just annoying.
Seeing McDonalds in France is, well, amusing, and yes, I've dined there a couple of times.
Cincinnati has a lot of German heritage and had German restaurants back in the day but I did not enjoy them. Yeah, somehow in Barcelona we struck out, but we were dining at the hotel which had a superb executive lounge for free. We only had lunch out, and the paella we had once was like days old reheated.
We were in Cancun a while back and found this little place around the corner that had fish tacoes, we still talk about them, fresh fish, incredible. We left large tips, and told people passing by the place was great, the owner brought us free magaritas to get us to stay and advertize longer.
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The best sushi I've ever had was in Portland Maine. That's weird to me because I've had it in some pretty renowned places carrying a reputation for it. That was almost 20 freakin years ago, and I still think about it.
Maybe an Unpopular opinion: sushi ain't just sushi- it's all about the preparation.
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Portland, Maine >>>>>> Portland, Oregon
Maybe unpopular opinion?
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That's interesting. We went to a highly recommended suchi place here and didn't care for it, our Kroger makes pretty decent sushi and sashimi and nigiri, we usually just get that. One of the best seafood places I ever dined was in Wilkes-Barre, PA, oddly enough.
You can find really good stuff anywhere these days. Or not. Probably not great to drink a glass of water in india ...
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Portland, Maine >>>>>> Portland, Oregon
Maybe unpopular opinion?
Wrong thread. Very popular opinion. 😂
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I've never been to the Maine version, it's probably quite nice. I spent a few days in Oregon but 20 years back, it was fine, nothing exceptional.
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Portland, Maine has been one of my favorite towns I've ever visited/worked in, here in the USA. I spent a month there and absolutely loved it.
Now I will say, that month was August. I have doubts about how much I'd love it in January and February.
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Pretty much all sushi is made from frozen fish anyway. As such, it doesn't really matter where you are. You can find good sushi almost anywhere, and in most cases there is no actual benefit to finding it near a coastline.
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The problem with an idea like "Best Asian cuisine" using nationality as a proxy is purely demographic.
China and India have giant populations spread over widely disparate regions and they're going to have the most variety in cuisine in what can be called their own.
Almost by definition, any other country in Asia is going to have a much more limited breadth of cuisine to choose from, due to less land mass, fewer residents, and less diversity of region.
I do think Thai tends to have a lot more diversity than many, though, because a lot of dishes resemble things that would be common in Chinese food, while a lot of others (curries/etc) resemble a lot of things that would be common in Indian food. It was fusion before fusion was cool.
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Pretty much all sushi is made from frozen fish anyway. As such, it doesn't really matter where you are. You can find good sushi almost anywhere, and in most cases there is no actual benefit to finding it near a coastline.
I don't know that this is true, at least, places here claim they are using "fresh fish", but maybe that means "freshly frozen"....
Where to Find Spectacular Sushi in Atlanta - Best places to eat in Atlanta, GA | Atlanta Eats
(https://www.atlantaeats.com/blog/where-to-find-spectacular-sushi-in-atlanta/)O-ku (https://www.o-kusushiatl.com/)
For rooftop views and an awesome happy hour
For awesome patio rooftop vibes, melt-in-your mouth flavors, and chic and Asian inspired cocktails, O-ku in West Midtown is unmatched. O-ku sources fresh fish from the best fish markets in Hawaii and Tokyo, and they also have one of the best happy hour specials in town.
(https://www.atlantaeats.com/blog/where-to-find-spectacular-sushi-in-atlanta/)
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I don't know that this is true, at least, places here claim they are using "fresh fish", but maybe that means "freshly frozen"....
No he's right, these days almost all fish is flash-frozen on the boat when it is caught. "Fresh" doesn't mean much.
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Portland, Maine >>>>>> Portland, Oregon
Maybe unpopular opinion?
I feel like Portland, Maine has about a 100 percent approval rating. So hard to top that.
(I’ve spent like 10 total conscious hours in Portland, Oregon. Seemed fine on one trip, dead ass hot on another)
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I don't know that this is true, at least, places here claim they are using "fresh fish", but maybe that means "freshly frozen"....
Where to Find Spectacular Sushi in Atlanta - Best places to eat in Atlanta, GA | Atlanta Eats
(https://www.atlantaeats.com/blog/where-to-find-spectacular-sushi-in-atlanta/)O-ku (https://www.o-kusushiatl.com/)
For rooftop views and an awesome happy hour
For awesome patio rooftop vibes, melt-in-your mouth flavors, and chic and Asian inspired cocktails, O-ku in West Midtown is unmatched. O-ku sources fresh fish from the best fish markets in Hawaii and Tokyo, and they also have one of the best happy hour specials in town.
(https://www.atlantaeats.com/blog/where-to-find-spectacular-sushi-in-atlanta/)
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/08/nyregion/sushi-fresh-from-the-deep-the-deep-freeze.html
Per the Times article, they actually quote a sushi restaurant that buys some fish fresh and freezes it himself, to make sure that he can supply seasonal product out of season.
But most sushi is frozen at some point in order to comply with FDA guidelines for parasite destruction. So maybe O-ku is buying it fresh, freezing it to comply with those regulations (and for shipment/storage during transit from Japan to Atlanta), and then thawing it for service?
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No he's right, these days almost all fish is flash-frozen on the boat when it is caught. "Fresh" doesn't mean much.
Yep. And this is one reason I like to buy seafood frozen from the store.
Pretty much every piece of thawed fish you see at your supermarket fish counter was frozen, thawed by the store, and placed in that little styrofoam tray in plastic wrap. You may not know how long it's been thawed, under exactly what conditions it was thawed (not that I think they're doing it wrong), etc. But it's not "fresh".
That way you can control the thawing process yourself and thaw it immediately prior to cooking.
We did poke bowls last week and got REALLY phenomenal tuna from our local specialty butcher. They sell it frozen because you know it's going to be as fresh as it was when it was frozen on the boat, not sitting around thawed for 1-3 days in their seafood case. And if we're making poke where the quality of the fish is the star of the show, I want the best experience I can get.
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Heh, they buy fresh fish, and then freeze it .... I can see that. Ha.
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I've had fresh from the boat sushi many times. It's really good.
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German food is awesome.
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I've had fresh from the boat sushi many times. It's really good.
Sure, you can get it. Right on the dock from a charter in fact.
That's just not what you're typically getting when you order from a sushi restaurant, not even the "finest" ones in coastal cities. That part is all just marketing.
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It makes sense to me, and buying frozen fish may make sense as well in many cases (unless they thawed it and then refroze it later).
Our Kroger has a fish counter (as do they all) while you can buy the same stuff pretty much in the refrigerated sections, the same is true for meat as well.
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Pretty much all sushi is made from frozen fish anyway. As such, it doesn't really matter where you are. You can find good sushi almost anywhere, and in most cases there is no actual benefit to finding it near a coastline.
This is true... and its false.
There was a good sushi place here until the chef left. He would be seen at the docks every morning buying fresh. Yellowfin tuna and snapper being the most prominent things he'd buy.. so... THAT part of the menu was tops.. the salmon or yellowtail was NOT fresh but either frozen or iced down for as much as a week. That part wasn't near tops.
Ive caught bluefish right off the surf and in pan within the hour and thought it fantastic... but let it sit for even a day and I hate the stuff. I'm not a flounder fan, but right out of the drink? It's good stuff... the best fish swimming is cobia, but again it's ten fold better within hours of catching. I've never seen it for sale in any market- ya gotta know somebody who caught it (and is willing to share) or catch it yourself.
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We get cobia at our farmer's market here. It's really good too. Fresh Catch is the company.
Fresh Catch Fish Company – Fresh Catch Fish Co. (https://freshcatchfishco.com/)
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We get cobia at our farmer's market here. It's really good too. Fresh Catch is the company.
Fresh Catch Fish Company – Fresh Catch Fish Co. (https://freshcatchfishco.com/)
Cobia has become my favorite ocean fish. Second in fish overall- only to the king- Walleye.
brush w olive oil, salt an pepper to taste, wrap in foil, 3-4 minutes per side on the grill. Has the consistency of filet mignon.
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German food is awesome.
In the last town I lived in, every local church/house of worship held an annual food fest to raise money for the youth group trip.
The Lutheran Octoberfest was great, though Greek fest was usually the best one.
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I said cobia... and cobia is good, too... I meant wahoo, or Ono depending on where you're at.
Wahoo, cobia, Mahi, snapper, grouper, in that order for me. Tuna is an altogether different subject and so different I have a hard time comparing it to other fish- same as shark or swordfish which is somewhere in between the two but different enough to be considered a totally different category imHo.
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Triple tail is really good.
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German food is awesome.
There is a local tavern that has done a brisk business on the food side of things. They made this German/Hungarian/Czech combo in the Fall with cabbage & noodles,spicy potato pancakes complete with apple sauce and cottage cheese and your choice of a variety of sausage types. I'm telling you it was the the most delicious balance and combination and so simple. I'm slobbering like a St Bernard just thinking of it. One of the regulars who ordered it said they rotated it out/off the menu bring may bring it back. According to him there was plenty of back lash - Here's hoping 🍺
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Sauerbraten is my favorite German dish, bar none.
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Hamilton the play is boring garbage
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Hamilton the play is boring garbage
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Hamilton the play is boring garbage
I admit that I only saw the recorded version on Disney+, and even then it was a pirated version. But I was pretty underwhelmed
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I admit that I only saw the recorded version on Disney+, and even then it was a pirated version. But I was pretty underwhelmed
I was done about ten minutes into it when they started doing hip hop
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I've not even thought about watching it
live or on memorex
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Never heard of Hamilton the play.
I really enjoyed Hamilton the Musical though.
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same same in my world
one just has annoying music
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I wanted to walk out after 5 minutes
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Perhaps you're not the target audience.
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As I hated it, I'm obviously not. I thought it extremely boring and banal. But I was there with my wife and daughter so I had to stick it out, I was told tickets were expensive. The place was packed so there is a target audience, but I really was thinking that folks were attracted more by reputation than any actual goodness of the play, and they were signaling how anti-racist they were by going and giving glowing reviews. Anyway, some might check the title of this thread ...
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My first wife was a fan of Hall and Oates, I was basically indifferent. She asked me if I wanted to go to one of their concerts in Cincy once, and I said, quite clearly, no. She bought tickets anyway. I protested, and she said "They were $$$", so in a vain attempt to maintain some sort of marital humor, I went. It was atrocious, small venue, no drinks, hot and stuffy, no chairs anywhere, packed. I went as far away from the stage as I could and sat on a step and plugged my ears (I don't like loud music at that level). Some gal saw me and asked if I was OK and I waved here away.
Some women don't understand what NO means. I've since learned to be emphatic. (I didn't say NO to Hamilton because my wife and daughter wanted to go, OK fine, I thought it would be OK and "everyone" said it was fantastic. At least they had seats, I sat with my ears plugged for most of it.)
I really think "we" are akin to sheep, we're social creatures and want to go along to get along. It's necessary for societies to function, from small to large. Remarkably, when it comes to Presidential options, we end up in my view with two choices that range from awful to worse perhaps because of this. It's the worst possible form of government ...
I think Churchill said it ...
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I'm not the target audience
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yup, my ex would buy concert tickets for "us" with my money and then try to persuade me to go.
I could have put up with hall & oates, they're not terrible IMO, but if I'd know there were no drinks?!?
I attended "Heart" & "U2" and others with her.
There were some I simply refused to attend.
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I recall way back we were working with this "consulting" group in LA. They were basically "go fers" and set stuff up for us. One of the partners was the step son of William Shatner, which was kind of neat, he took us onto the set of ST 4, we got to watch them film and met them briefly.
Once I had flown out and they had gotten us tickets to the Steel Wheels concert out there, I demurred, being tired from the flight etc. They told me the tickets cost $50, which at the time was a lot of moolah. I still didn't go. Technically we weren't supposed to accept benefits like that anyway. That was a fun project I must say, my part was devising some new strategy for dealing with fleas. This was before "The Pill" etc.
Those flights got to be difficult for me. I'd take the red eye back so as to get to work the next day.
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Baseball is objectively the worst sport
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Shohei Ohtani is the greatest baseball player in history
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Shohei Ohtani hits 40th HR after start cut short by finger cramps
ANAHEIM, Calif. -- Shohei Ohtani couldn't extend his right middle finger enough to continue pitching Thursday night, but he still recorded the 600th strikeout of his career, still belted his major-league-leading 40th home run this season
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He's going to be the best paid, by far. He is a real phenom, and he runs with considerble speed. He might be the fastest player in MLB of his size.
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well, that's certainly unpopular
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There have been a few players in MLB history who would sell out visiting venues, he's one of them. Koufax used to sell out stadia when he pitched, maybe there has been a few since him. The Braves would average 8-10 K a game until K came to town and they'd sell 52,000 tickets.
This trend to smaller capacity stadia is interesting and indicative of a something.
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Baseball is objectively the worst sport
THIS is how you do this thread.
And while I don't think it's the WORST sport, the major league version is certainly boring, tedious, and unfun.
I do however enjoy college baseball.
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So you prefer high-scoring with lots of errors? lol
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So you prefer high-scoring with lots of errors? lol
Sure. Mostly I'm just not into the millionaire playboy laundry league stuff. I prefer the college version of EVERY sport, to the professional one. College football is king, but I also like college basketball over the NBA, which I find to be completely unwatchable.
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MLB is even more boring than soccer.
Hell, MLB is even more boring than golf.
I don't watch cornhole, but I'm pretty sure it's more exciting than MLB.
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College football is king, but I also like college basketball over the NBA, which I find to be completely unwatchable.
I agree on NBA but I don't even think CBB is all that much better.
Part of it, I think, is that the rims need raised. When James Naismith invented basketball in the 1890's, 6' players were a rarity and physical training was in infancy so the 10' rim was basically beyond anyone's reach. In today's NBA probably every player can dunk.
For some odd reason it took NBA/CBB coaches an inordinately long time to figure this out, but shooting >33% from behind the arc is better than shooting <50% from inside the arc so now the midrange game has more-or-less disappeared and only two things are left:
- VERY close in dunks/lay-ups, and
- Three point shots
To get back to a game that is more dynamic, I think that two changes should be made:
- Raise the rims to at least 11' and 12' might be needed (maybe 10' HS, 11' CBB, 12'NBA).
- Move the three point line further back such that the %drops thus making midrange shots worth the attempt.
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Yeah I don't love college basketball, I just like it better than the NBA. I'll occasionally go to campus and watch a UT game live, and I'll watch some of the NCAA Tourney.
I probably haven't watched an NBA game since the Jordan era.
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My first wife was a fan of Hall and Oates, I was basically indifferent. She asked me if I wanted to go to one of their concerts in Cincy once, and I said, quite clearly, no. She bought tickets anyway. I protested, and she said "They were $$$", so in a vain attempt to maintain some sort of marital humor, I went. It was atrocious, small venue, no drinks, hot and stuffy, no chairs anywhere, packed. I went as far away from the stage as I could and sat on a step and plugged my ears (I don't like loud music at that level). Some gal saw me and asked if I was OK and I waved here away.
Some women don't understand what NO means. I've since learned to be emphatic. (I didn't say NO to Hamilton because my wife and daughter wanted to go, OK fine, I thought it would be OK and "everyone" said it was fantastic. At least they had seats, I sat with my ears plugged for most of it.)
I really think "we" are akin to sheep, we're social creatures and want to go along to get along. It's necessary for societies to function, from small to large. Remarkably, when it comes to Presidential options, we end up in my view with two choices that range from awful to worse perhaps because of this. It's the worst possible form of government ...
I think Churchill said it ...
They never understand it if you acquiesce.
They start understanding when you actually follow through.
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I've since learned to be emphatic, but my second wife is a gem, she understands me pretty well. I rarely need to be emphatic, almost never.
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as far as MLB is concerned I cant watch any game unless Im a fan of one of the teams
otherwise its just boring
but if my team is playing Im very entertained
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Baseball may be the only sport where the in person experience dwarfs the TV experience.
Oh, and NASCAR....if you consider that a sport.
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I like baseball, on TV, in person, whatever. CFB remains my favorite for some reason.
I don't care for the NBA, NFL, WNBA, college BB, etc., which is good I think, it limits my TV time a bit.
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Baseball may be the only sport where the in person experience dwarfs the TV experience.
Oh, and NASCAR....if you consider that a sport.
Ice hockey is better in person.
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Baseball may be the only sport where the in person experience dwarfs the TV experience.
Yeah, but that might just be due to the fact that the TV experience is horrible.
MLB on TV is great if you need a nap. MLB in the stadium is great if you need an excuse for day drinking; the game is still boring but the theater around it is at least tolerable.
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To get back to a game that is more dynamic, I think that two changes should be made:
- Raise the rims to at least 11' and 12' might be needed (maybe 10' HS, 11' CBB, 12'NBA).
- Move the three point line further back such that the %drops thus making midrange shots worth the attempt.
or just eliminate the 3-point line
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I dislike the phrase "asking for a friend". I have no clue where that arose, or why, I think it's stupid, don't you? (AFAF).
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yup
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Mostly ancient history.
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Cucumber is my favorite fruit.
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I dislike the phrase "asking for a friend". I have no clue where that arose, or why, I think it's stupid, don't you? (AFAF).
I think it arose for the exact reason that it's used for humor today... People wanted to ask a question about something potentially embarrassing or personal but didn't want to expose that they were asking because of their own need.
So they start a conversation with "So I've got this friend that X, and he/she is trying to figure out what to do", etc etc etc.
And in the other person's mind was always, "yeah, right, your 'friend' needs this answer? Suuuure..."
So it became a joke. You're "asking for a friend" but with a wink you're basically admitting you're asking for yourself.
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or just eliminate the 3-point line
At least that would end the chuck up long shots offense but I do like rewarding lower percentage shots to some extent. Another solution would be to make it more gradual:
- In the paint, 1 point
- Paint to 2' beyond current 3 point line, 2 points
- 2' beyond current line, 3 points
Then you could keep the rims at 10'.
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3 point line is half court
anyone touching the rim is basket interference - no dunks
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Cucumber is my favorite fruit.
Shocking. The guy who is usually the most noncommittal to any position in just about every debate thread ever, has the most tasteless possible favorite fruit. :57:
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a slice or two enhances ice water
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Shocking. The guy who is usually the most noncommittal to any position in just about every debate thread ever, has the most tasteless possible favorite fruit. :57:
I often can be somewhat commital at times, it may seem like I'm not always because of how I tend to lean on parsing positions slightly so as to consider all sides of any discussion.
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I often can be somewhat commital at times, it may seem like I'm not always because of how I tend to lean on parsing positions slightly so as to consider all sides of any discussion.
Even your denial of being non-commital, is non-commital.
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I thought baseball was superior to cricket, but then I watched people playing cricket in the park and they appeared to be having fun, which isn't something I've seen in baseball.
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Cucumber is my favorite fruit.
You just made the list, buddy.
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Have we done one of these before? I feel like we might have, but perhaps not.
I'll start.
Pickles suck. They taste bad. In fact, anything cucumber related sucks and tastes bad.
I realize I'm in the minority here and that this is an unpopular opinion. Hence the thread.
Well this subject thread has been on the shelf for 2 yrs but just thought I would splice in
that Junior is sometimes wrong~whatever~ole
have a tuna boat with cuke seeds removed great sumer refresher
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the resurrection of a long lost thread! luv it!
most folks are lazy and just create another thread and another and another and another
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Go read Hooky's(RIP) "Ya Know What I Hate" Thread on the Big 12 Board definitely worth perusing - a page flipper in archaic terms
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Go read Hooky's(RIP) "Ya Know What I Hate" Thread on the Big 12 Board definitely worth perusing - a page flipper in archaic terms
Yeah this thread exists because not many of you B1G folks bother to venture down to B12 land.
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None of you are even in the Big 12 anymore.
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They never were.
It was all just a buncha SWC and Big 8 malcontents anyway.
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B12 forum reaches far beyond conference affinity or alignment. It's the Backporch, always has been, always will be.
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good reasons why it wasn't the front porch
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good reasons why it wasn't the front porch
Well, yeah. You didn't want the whole street to be able to see when sooners or ags were visiting. It's okay to interact with them out of the public's eye, but nobody wants to be TOO closely associated with either one.
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Yeah this thread exists because not many of you B1G folks bother to venture down to B12 land.
Must be too busy trolling Michigan Boards or Life - it actually got into the '70s around here
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Ok well...the LOTR triology is mediocre and extremely repetitive. They adventure, some non-human group that is suspicious of humans decides to help because the evil threatens them, too; the protagonists face almost certain ruin in a climactic battle at the hands of stampeding hords of evil, then a savior comes from far away and turns the tide of the fight. Frodo suffers and struggles along his path, but always manages to escape certain doom. Eventually Frodo destroys the ring. The end.
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Ok well...the LOTR triology is mediocre and extremely repetitive. They adventure, some non-human group that is suspicious of humans decides to help because the evil threatens them, too; the protagonists face almost certain ruin in a climactic battle at the hands of stampeding hords of evil, then a savior comes from far away and turns the tide of the fight. Frodo suffers and struggles along his path, but always manages to escape certain doom. Eventually Frodo destroys the ring. The end.
You sure about that?
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Ok well...the LOTR triology is mediocre and extremely repetitive. They adventure, some non-human group that is suspicious of humans decides to help because the evil threatens them, too; the protagonists face almost certain ruin in a climactic battle at the hands of stampeding hords of evil, then a savior comes from far away and turns the tide of the fight. Frodo suffers and struggles along his path, but always manages to escape certain doom. Eventually Frodo destroys the ring. The end.
Books or movies?
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There has been a nerd thread provided
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You sure about that?
Ok, the ring is destroyed at the end of Frodo's quest. He makes it to Doom. The Ring is destroyed. Happier now?
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Books or movies?
BOOKS.
(movies, too, but it's the books that I forced myself to read. The movies are over in a few hours.)
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That is quite the unpopular opinion.
My knock on the books is that they're very tedious to read. However enjoyable I find them, a description about a leaf that goes on for three pages can be a slog. (Ok, that's an exaggeration and not really in there, but you know what I mean.)
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I read the trilogy back when I was 13 or so... Then re-read it in college when they started doing the movies.
I found it an entertaining read.
But @SFBadger96 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=51) -- isn't that a template for a HELL of a lot of stories? How many stories are there in literature of an unlikely alliance between disparate forces of good, fighting evil, building suspense as the odds [and danger] to them rises, and then they miraculously [or conventionally] prevail? It's the central arc of most good storytelling.
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My knock on the books is that they're very tedious to read. However enjoyable I find them, a description about a leaf that goes on for three pages can be a slog. (Ok, that's an exaggeration and not really in there, but you know what I mean.)
There are many who enjoy the books because of that. Not all music must be bubble gum, not all fiction must be pulp. ;)
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I read the trilogy back when I was 13 or so... Then re-read it in college when they started doing the movies.
I found it an entertaining read.
But @SFBadger96 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=51) -- isn't that a template for a HELL of a lot of stories? How many stories are there in literature of an unlikely alliance between disparate forces of good, fighting evil, building suspense as the odds [and danger] to them rises, and then they miraculously [or conventionally] prevail? It's the central arc of most good storytelling.
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Yes that in general, and specifically the Monomyth-- The Hero's Journey-- has been a common structure in written literature, since anyone began writing literature.
It's not the structure that is noteworthy in LOTR, it's the detail, the writing, the characters, and the world building.
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That is quite the unpopular opinion.
My knock on the books is that they're very tedious to read. However enjoyable I find them, a description about a leaf that goes on for three pages can be a slog. (Ok, that's an exaggeration and not really in there, but you know what I mean.)
Moby Dick is like that as well.
Beautiful writing, and you can really "see" the scene because of it, but a little sloggy for sure.
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I was once having dinner with my i s c & a aggie wife, and two couples who were our close friends. All of us guys were tech nerds, and sci-fi/fantasy dorks, and we were discussing LOTR. At that point the movies had recently come out, and my wife really liked them, so during that discussion I encouraged her to read them.
That's when my friend's wife, who was a schoolteacher, looked at her and said, "Oh, you don't want to do that. Those books are hard."
I couldn't help but laugh. From then on, any time we were cracking on one another for doing something dumb, we'd say something like, "oh yeah, you don't want to go bowling, keeping score is hard."
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Walter Sobchak: I'm sorry, Smokey. You were over the line, that's a foul. Smokey: Bullshit. Mark it 8, Dude. Walter Sobchak: Uh, excuse me. Mark it zero.
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That's when my friend's wife, who was a schoolteacher, looked at her and said, "Oh, you don't want to do that. Those books are hard."
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In college, I was in a private coed dorm, the school dorms were not at that time. Anyway, we had a gaggle of pretty good looking gals on our hall, and they were all education majors. I signed up for astonomy one quarter as a crip course, I could have made an A in that class without studying or attending, but several of the gaggle also took it, it was a "science" class for them.
The professor was pretty entertaining, so I did go to class, and ended up tutoring the gals down the hall. I recall running by them in the hall to demonstrate a fake Doppler effect, they could not understand that at all.
I ended up dating one of the gals for a year plus, but it sort of fell apart once I went off the UNC. So there was that.
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It's not the structure that is noteworthy in LOTR, it's the detail, the writing, the characters, and the world building.
And I'd argue, the theme.
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I ended up dating one of the gals for a year plus, but it sort of fell apart once I went off the UNC. So there was that.
CincyTarHeel?
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No, she got a teaching job west of Atlanta while I was in Chapel Hill. We had an "agreement" we could date others IFF we kept each other informed, and she didn't, and then later "confessed" and felt bad for lying and tried to make it up to me, but at that time, I was about as hard core as one can be.
Black and white, etc.
A few months later I met a gal working on her MS in geology, she was terrific, mostly, but had some "issues" that never got resolved, I don't think I was part of them, she never talked much except that her mother had died a bit earlier. She dropped me, then tried to come back, once, then dropped me again. I liked her a lot, but I think it was hormonally driven. Then a while later I met the gal I ended up marrying because ... it was the thing to do.
Fortunately, my current wife is 99% rational.
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except for the distain for SD
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except for the distain for SD
I mean, it's understandable. SoCal weather sucks.
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Her's is an unpopular opinion.
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Sounds like she may have sabotaged her own trip with all that family and graduation shi... stuff.
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She had that general opinion before this trip. Whatever. I've even taken her to Balboa Park which she said was nice. I think one problem is when you visit family, your options get restricted as to what you can do on your own. It's her family, so I basically follow whatever, but to me, it gets boring, and apparently for her as well.
We did get up to Solana Beach after the lunch, she likes that place a lot. Lunch was in Del Mar at an OK place, I picked up the tab.
Beeside Balcony Del Mar
This place was decent, not special, not too pricey. She likes La Jolla also, so really she is fine with the outskirts. On our previous trip we took a tour of San Diego which I thought was pretty solid. Sometimes a person can latch on to an opinion which isn't explainable, and they stick to it.
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I read the trilogy back when I was 13 or so... Then re-read it in college when they started doing the movies.
I found it an entertaining read.
But @SFBadger96 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=51) -- isn't that a template for a HELL of a lot of stories? How many stories are there in literature of an unlikely alliance between disparate forces of good, fighting evil, building suspense as the odds [and danger] to them rises, and then they miraculously [or conventionally] prevail? It's the central arc of most good storytelling.
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Yes, and the Fellowship was pretty good. The problem I have with trilogy is that it doesn't do much different from the Fellowship. The obstacles, twists, disasters, and crises are essentially the same in each of the three books.
/unpopular opinion.
I'm amused that Moby Dick was brought up. Would have been a really good short story. Was a painful novel. Good evidence that writers used to be paid by the word.
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I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion.
War and Peace is complete, utter, useless, trash. All ~1100 pages of it.
Why? Because it doesn't even remotely resemble the structure above. Instead, it just seems to be a collection of people, and telling you what they did. Some go to war. Some don't. Some live. Some die. Some get married.
But at no point in the entire story did I feel any connection to any character. At no point in the entire story did I feel like there was ANY central theme, central conflict, or central obstacle to be overcome.
It was just people. Who did things. Things of no import to anyone but them.
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100% agree with that take. It's my next door neighbor's favorite book. I read it a few years ago out of respect for him, but man did I detest it. I got through it. I was most interested in its description of the Napoleonic wars. The style of exposition was brutal. I get it: people have feelings (well, rich people, according to War and Peace).
I think I gave my review of it in the books thread. The other thing I remember is that Tolstoy felt the need to write a little essay at the end explaining the book, or the themes in the book. And it, too, sucked.
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I think to understand War and Peace you've got to understand Tolstoy. He was about something, and his works--that one in particular--may be better viewed as commentary on life than stories about something. My opinion.
I'm not defending that book, btw. In any sense, it's brutal. But it's interesting to me in the sense that I know a bit about Tolstoy in a wider context and it's very revealing of him.
I will offer that I don't agree with SF that it's just about rich people having feelings. I'd opine that Tolstoy used his story to highlight the hubris of that kind of thinking, not to espouse it.
But yeah, his contemporary Dostoevsky has way more interesting reads. If you're looking for a 19th century Russian novelist, skip LT and go straight to FD.
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A lot of the time, I think people dislike a book like War and Peace because there is a lot that is lost in translation.
However that is not the case in War and Peace. It just sucked. It sucked for the reasons discussed above, and also for other reasons.
On the other hand, I really liked Crime and Punishment. It had a plot, an actual story arc, and while the characters weren't particularly relatable to me, I could at least see something universal in them.
Edit: MDT beat me to the FD reco! :)
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I can tell you this much.....suffering through the 6-hr (or whatever it was) mini-series of War and Peace my wife forced me into watching with her sucked too. Sometimes a flawed novel can make a good film.
Nope.
She is still paying down that debt, watching stuff she hates with me because when she protests, I just say "War and Peace." She knows what she did.
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I like the book entitled "Tolstoy" by Warren Peace. It was a quick read.
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Speaking of, we both disliked New Orleans immensely. I've posted the reasons before and I know "we missed it" somehow, I would pay money in lieu of ever returning for any reason.
Cities I do like include San Francisco and Boston and DC and a little bit NYC. I thought Chicago was pretty OK. I used to go to LA a fair bit on business and found it mostly OK but for much of that I was being feted.
Paris is my least favorite city in France.
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Georgia’s SR 400 expansion is a $4.6B project to rebuild 16 miles of highway — nearly $290M per mile, making it one of the most expensive in the U.S. The project is a 50-year public-private partnership: a group called Peach Partners will design, build, operate, and maintain the toll lanes. They take on the financial risk — and stand to profit if traffic is heavy — while also locking in a non-compete clause that blocks competing road or transit projects in the corridor for decades.
The toll lanes are being built inside the existing highway footprint, threading through medians and shoulders. This avoids property takings but makes construction more complex and costly. Since Peach Partners is responsible for maintenance until the 2070s, they’re investing upfront in longer-lasting materials and pavement.
A Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) component for MARTA is included — a rare transit win — but it’s a small slice of a car-dominated project. While this upgrade addresses a needed infrastructure challenge, it also reinforces Atlanta’s car dependency since adding lanes rarely solves congestion long-term. Instead, it invites more cars (induced demand), leading to more traffic, not less.
Cars are space-inefficient — most carry just one person, yet take up lots of room. They’re also expensive to support at scale: each trip depends on personal vehicles, fuel, and ongoing road maintenance. Pouring billions into expanding highway capacity doubles down on the most land-, resource-, and cost-intensive way to travel, while alternatives like public transit, bike lanes, and walkable design remain underfunded.
So, Is this a genuine step toward a smarter, more sustainable transportation future — or just an expensive band-aid stuck on a decades-old problem?
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Speaking of, we both disliked New Orleans immensely. I've posted the reasons before and I know "we missed it" somehow, I would pay money in lieu of ever returning for any reason.
Cities I do like include San Francisco and Boston and DC and a little bit NYC. I thought Chicago was pretty OK. I used to go to LA a fair bit on business and found it mostly OK but for much of that I was being feted.
Paris is my least favorite city in France.
Went to NO once in the 90's when I was about 19/20 years old with some friends. Back then the drinking age in La was 18. That was cool. I didn't really care for the city, it seemed dirty and old, but not the kind of old that's good. More like decrepit. Then I went with my wife in July 2005, while we were there there was brief mention about a storm forming in the far Atlantic that turned out to be Hurricane Katrina. Anyways I didn't like it the 2nd time. We witnessed open drug use, everything stunk and smelled like piss, it was dirty. Not really my cup of tea. We're supposed to go back this year for a convention so maybe I will get to see some stuff I didn't get the first two times. Or not.
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Because I'm indulgent, I just went and reread my review of War and Peace. I'm happy with it (p.5 of the books thread, if you want to indulge me).
I agree that Dostyevsky (sp?) was more compelling. I liked Crime and Punishment, though it was also a bit of a slog.
I enjoyed New Orleans the last time I went, with my son about three years ago. Very different experience than if I had gone with someone of drinking age--and I think that improved it (leaving the drinking to others).
There appears to be more and more movement in the public transportation space toward improving busses, including the use of express busses. Those projects are much cheaper than rail and widening highways, and, as a result, have the potential to have better ROI--as long as we can convince more people to use the bus. No small thing.
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"White people" don't like busses, for the most part. I see busses here go by with 2-3 passengers on board. Huge bus, hardly any riders.
I think autonomous smaller nicer busses could be a thing in the not too distant. Hard rail is too expensive, light rail is expensive and also often not popular, but works in some places.
Atlanta Beltline wants to bring driverless passenger vehicles to Beltline | FOX 5 Atlanta (https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/atlanta-beltline-wants-bring-driverless-passenger-vehicles-beltline)
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I take buses and trains whenever possible.
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We took the train to and from the airport this trip. Despite all the negative stories, it works fine in my experience. There are "black people" on the train which I suspect for some means you're about to be robbed.
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Because I'm indulgent, I just went and reread my review of War and Peace. I'm happy with it (p.5 of the books thread, if you want to indulge me).
I don't recall it so I must have missed it when you wrote it, but I read it just now. You got an audible chuckle out of me a couple of times. I may have a couple of different takeaways of Tolstoy's overall bent, but I think you did an excellent job of conveying the terrifying slog that tree-waste of a book is.
Incidentally, that mini-series I mentioned also did as good of a job as that medium could do, I think, to capture how Everybody. Thinks. A lot. And. Has. Emotions.
(and that's not a compliment)
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But yeah, his contemporary Dostoevsky has way more interesting reads. If you're looking for a 19th century Russian novelist, skip LT and go straight to FD.
On the other hand, I really liked Crime and Punishment. It had a plot, an actual story arc, and while the characters weren't particularly relatable to me, I could at least see something universal in them.
Agreed on Crime and Punishment. I wouldn't say "really liked", but it was an entertaining read. I'd suggest that perhaps a lot of the lack of relatability might be a cross-cultural and cross-temporal thing... The protagonist suffered from shame, and that's something that modern Americans seem to have lost the concept of :57:
I agree that Dostyevsky (sp?) was more compelling. I liked Crime and Punishment, though it was also a bit of a slog.
If there's one thing I wouldn't call it, it would be a "slog"...
Atlas Shrugged is a slog. Unlike War and Peace, it's got a full story arc--it's just about 600 pages too long. Rand didn't know the difference between writing a philosophical treatise and a novel. And her depth of characters was... At the cardboard cutout level.
Crime and Punishment in comparison to either was a short, and IMHO relatively fast-paced, story.
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Atlas Shrugged was "OK" if one skips over the long speechifying.
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I'd suggest that perhaps a lot of the lack of relatability might be a cross-cultural and cross-temporal thing... The protagonist suffered from shame, and that's something that modern Americans seem to have lost the concept of :57:
Well he also killed a couple of folks just to see if he could get away with it, so it's possible that he was unrelatable for me, for that reason...
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Atlas Shrugged was "OK" if one skips over the long speechifying.
If you do that, you miss all the philosophical underpinning of the novel. At that point, you've read ~1100 pages and all you have are shittily-developed cardboard cutout characters and the basic idea of producers and moochers/looters without the understanding behind it.
Rand's problem is that as she got older, her books got longer, and longer, and longer... But not better.
Anthem was a good and short book. Lighter on philosophy but an easier read. The Fountainhead was starting to get long, but it seemed like the character interplay was better, and she at least seemed to get to the point. Atlas was just... A tome. The sort of thing that as a writer she thought "this is going to be THE book that I get to put EVERYTHING in--the magnum opus." And then the actual writing quality ended up IMHO being secondary to the message.
Heinlein was different. He was certainly more in the libertarian mindset as a writer, and that [and the philosophy behind it] came through in his books. But he could actually write. The philosophy underpinned the work, instead of the work being a vehicle for the philosophy.
Well he also killed a couple of folks just to see if he could get away with it, so it's possible that he was unrelatable for me, for that reason...
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Well, there's that.
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I think Heinlein was more Individualist, than Libertarian.
I actually disliked his more philosophical works because of it. Stranger In A Strange Land was a wildly masturbatory over indulgence in self, and it really turned me off his writings for a good long while.
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I'm in the process of finishing up my trilogy, a fantasy series. I was pondering where to go with it on the flight home. A great thing about being a wannabe author is that YOU are large and in charge. I have the protagonist who has been, um, interested in the attractive young princess who has been entirely professional with him throughout.
Maybe there should be a book 4.
Probably not.
I let it sit a few months and then went back and reread what I had and with a few spiffs thought it decent.
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I think Heinlein was more Individualist, than Libertarian.
I actually disliked his more philosophical works because of it. Stranger In A Strange Land was a wildly masturbatory over indulgence in self, and it really turned me off his writings for a good long while.
Well if we boil it down... Ayn Rand and Robert Heinlein did have one similarity in their writings...
...a weird fixation on alternative sexual practices :57:
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See also the Girl With the Dragon Tatoo series...
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perverts!
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Ok well...the LOTR triology is mediocre and extremely repetitive. They adventure, some non-human group that is suspicious of humans decides to help because the evil threatens them, too; the protagonists face almost certain ruin in a climactic battle at the hands of stampeding hords of evil, then a savior comes from far away and turns the tide of the fight. Frodo suffers and struggles along his path, but always manages to escape certain doom. Eventually Frodo destroys the ring. The end.
I have read lotr probably 30 times. I have read everything fiction that Tolkien has written and a bit of his non-fiction. I love his writing, world building. His short stories are great. I love "leaf by niggle" he would probably deny it but a good allegory of his writing and life.
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I have read lotr probably 30 times. I have read everything fiction that Tolkien has written and a bit of his non-fiction. I love his writing, world building. His short stories are great. I love "leaf by niggle" he would probably deny it but a good allegory of his writing and life.
I like his supplemental works and his letters, which delve into the history of Middle Earth. It's crazy how much effort he put into world-building over the years. He never stopped, in fact. He kept developing Middle Earth well after the publication of his LOTR novels. His creation myth and history of the First and Second Ages would make fantastic books (or films) if someone could do it right.
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I like his supplemental works and his letters, which delve into the history of Middle Earth. It's crazy how much effort he put into world-building over the years. He never stopped, in fact. He kept developing Middle Earth well after the publication of his LOTR novels. His creation myth and history of the First and Second Ages would make fantastic books (or films) if someone could do it right.
This is what Amazon is trying to do with Rings of Power. But unfortunately they don't have IP rights to EVERYthing, just SOME things, so they are diverging from the canon. It has a lot of nerds angry. But not this nerd, I'm cool with what they're doing. Not every part of that series is a winner but there are some really good nuggets in there.
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I despise that show. If that makes me an angry nerd, I'm cool with that.
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I despise that show. If that makes me an angry nerd, I'm cool with that.
If you dislike it because it's "not canon" then yes you're an angry nerd.
If you dislike it for other reasons, then perhaps you are not.
:)
Anyway, with respect to LOTR, Star Wars, and every other fandom out there-- Dear Lord please save us from angry nerds who believe they have ownership of the material and insist that canon be followed at all costs.
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I dislike it for multiple other reasons, but I'm also against unnecessarily changing canon. Some things inevitably have to be changed when adapting from books to film. Even Peter Jackson's movie trilogy did that, and I love those movies, despite their differences with the books. But you should do what you can to be true to the source material.
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I dislike it for multiple other reasons, but I'm also against unnecessarily changing canon. Some things inevitably have to be changed when adapting from books to film. Even Peter Jackson's movie trilogy did that, and I love those movies, despite their differences with the books. But you should do what you can to be true to the source material.
Yeah, the Tolkien family's uneven sale/distribution of IP rights, has made it such that no one studio owns all of the IP. So there's no way it's going to reflect exactly what's in the various appendices, letters, and the Silmarillion.
And of course then there's the fact that Tolkien contradicted his own histories from one source to another, so even if you had access to ALL of the writings, there are multiple versions of some elements of the story.
Overall it's supposed to be entertainment, and I'm entertained. It's cool if you're not.
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ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!!??
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Here's another one that may cause a stir. I love the Godfather. Great, all-timer movie. I think the Godfather II is mediocre. Well filmed/directed/acted/etc.? Yes. Good movie? Nope.
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Wow, that's definitely an unpopular opinion. I know that many folks consider the second to be as good as or better than the first.
My unpopular opinion-- I don't like either one of them. I hate mob movies in general. I just sit there wanting them all to get killed and/or thrown in prison. Scum of the earth.
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Love them both. Part III? F no.
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Wow, that's definitely an unpopular opinion. I know that many folks consider the second to be as good as or better than the first.
My unpopular opinion-- I don't like either one of them. I hate mob movies in general. I just sit there wanting them all to get killed and/or thrown in prison. Scum of the earth.
Yup--Godfather II is allegedly the best one. III is a throw-away for all of the Godfather fans.
Not me: it's only the first one that I will spend my time on.
Your perspective is the same as SFIrish's (more generally than just mob movies): no interest in following the lives and times of jerks and ne'er-do-wells.
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I never saw III because by then I'd realized how much I hated mob movies and just stopped watching them.
But to Godfather die-hards, yeah it seems they all hated #3. They consider it a part of the grouping in the same way I consider the Mustang II a part of the Mustang family-- that is to say, not at all.
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Unpopular opinion: Godfather III isn't really that bad....in a vacuum.
When lumped in with the first two it can't help but disappoint fans because tonally it's just so different. The first two movies do a thing, and then the third comes along and doesn't even seem like it's trying to do that thing, let alone succeed.
But on its own merits, divorced from comparison to the other two, it was okay.
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This chick combined with her creepy relationship with her cousin made that movie for shit.
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Pacino was fine.
Not casting (lowballing) Bobby Duvall was a huge mistake.
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Dear Lord please save us from angry nerds who believe they have ownership of the material and insist that canon be followed at all costs.
Well,then turn the damn cannons around and let them have it - problem solved. ::)
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My unpopular opinion-- I don't like either one of them. I hate mob movies in general.
Junior - you get a Yuengling
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Unpopular opinion: Godfather III isn't really that bad....in a vacuum.
When lumped in with the first two it can't help but disappoint fans because tonally it's just so different. The first two movies do a thing, and then the third comes along and doesn't even seem like it's trying to do that thing, let alone succeed.
But on its own merits, divorced from comparison to the other two, it was okay.
2 hours of your life wasted
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I think I've seen The Godfather, start to finish. Maybe once. Have never seen II or III.
I actually haven't seen the 2nd or 3rd LOTR movies, despite reading the books at age ~13, and then re-reading them in college when they started making the movies. Haven't seen the Hobbit. Haven't watched the 2nd or 3rd Matrix movies. I've seen Star Wars 1, 4-6, 7-9, Solo, and Rogue One. I've vaguely seen bits and pieces of movies 2 and 3 when the kids were watching them, but have never sat through them straight through.
I don't watch a lot of movies, tbh...
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I've never seen any of the "Godfather" flicks. Always meant to, but haven't.
I'll turn in my man card.
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I've probably seen 1 & 2 at least 50 times each, and I still pick things up that I missed.
Very complex and brilliant.
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I agree about GF, I think I appreciated them more when rewatching years later, I'm better able to pick up on dialog and acting and worry less about where it's headed.
I like a lot of the famous mafia movies.
An unusual series I really like is "Pride and Prejudice", the BBC multipart production. I thought the book was terrific also.
A quasi-unpopular opinion my wife has is she does not want to live in France at all, no way. She'd like us to spend maybe a month there in Provence some time.
If we do that, I'll be soaking up rays, drinking wine, eating cheese. I don't know what makes them run.
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soaking up rays, drinking wine, eating cheese
sound much like San Diego
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soaking up rays, drinking wine, eating cheese
sound much like San Diego
Wine and cheese are much, much better in France.
Rays are better in San Diego-- as long as it's midday in August.
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I used to be friendly (through my wife) of the top French chef in Cincy. Sadly, he passed away fairly recently, but we have reservations at his one remaining restaurant in August when we go up. It is really good IMHO. Anyway, he told me the one food item better in the US is beef. He chatted about how tough it is to get the right kinds of basics like flour and spices here that emulate French "cuisine" (which literally means kitchen, not food).
Le Bar à Boeuf - Bistro at Edgecliff Condos - East Walnut Hills - Cincinnati (https://www.decavelgroup.com/locations/edgecliff/bistro)
I still have a hard time understanding why French restaurants almost don't exist in a city the size of ATL. There are a handful that claim to be French, but the two that were close to French both closed. Maybe I'm too persnickety.
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French Bistros are mostly very expensive
that's the only reason I can see that they don't do well
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I'd sit at the bar and have the soup and a burger with frittes.
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The back up quarterback is usually a back up for a reason and even if a coach is wrong, they’re wrong for reasons that still have to do with being much much smarter about football than you.
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I used to be friendly (through my wife) of the top French chef in Cincy. Sadly, he passed away fairly recently, but we have reservations at his one remaining restaurant in August when we go up. It is really good IMHO. Anyway, he told me the one food item better in the US is beef. He chatted about how tough it is to get the right kinds of basics like flour and spices here that emulate French "cuisine" (which literally means kitchen, not food).
Le Bar à Boeuf - Bistro at Edgecliff Condos - East Walnut Hills - Cincinnati (https://www.decavelgroup.com/locations/edgecliff/bistro)
I still have a hard time understanding why French restaurants almost don't exist in a city the size of ATL. There are a handful that claim to be French, but the two that were close to French both closed. Maybe I'm too persnickety.
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Beef in Europe in general is well below American standards. The high-end French steakhouses used to import Argentinian beef due to its better quality, no idea if that's still what they do as I haven't eaten steak in France in many many years now. But the beef going into the standard French braised dishes was still just the low-grade Euro fare.
I can imagine that it's difficult to get the exact types of spices and staples. For example flour could certainly be milled differently there, to a different final size/grind, or from different strains of wheat, and even some slight variation could manifest as a difference in the final product. Not necessarily "worse" but also not the same as over there.
French restaurants do pretty well here in Austin, we have a few that have been around for decades, and a few more that are more recent but solid contributors to the scene. It's interesting to me that Italian food is so much more ubiquitous. And not just checkered tablecloth Italian-American, but true Italian. I think people just find it more accessible than French cooking for some reason. And it's not necessarily price because the top "true Italian" restaurants in Austin, are at least as pricey as the French ones.
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Also, on any restaurant menu, the burger is probably a weak link unless it’s not a very good restaurant.
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Also, on any restaurant menu, the burger is probably a weak link unless it’s not a very good restaurant.
I completely disagree with this statement. A restaurant without a good burger is not a good restaurant.
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French Bistros are mostly very expensive
that's the only reason I can see that they don't do well
Some are, and they have that reputation, but the one's I've liked are priced the same as other "ethnic food" places of the same overall quality. A "bistro" literally would be an a smaller place serving modestly priced foods. Obviously, the term has been "Americanized" like "cuisine" and "entree".
This place for example is decent, and not too far from us.
Bistro-Niko-Dinner-FINAL-04.03.25.pdf
(https://bistroniko.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Bistro-Niko-Dinner-FINAL-04.03.25.pdf)"Entrees" are around $30. If we got to an Italian or Indian or Persian or American place near us it's the same pricing. We should probably try Bistro Nikko again sometime, maybe for lunch. We had lunch there once a while back. There is another place close to us that is quasi- French. We've been to the bar but never dined there, now I figure we should give it a go.
Menus | Brasserie Margot in Atlanta, GA
(https://www.brasseriemargot.com/menus/#dinner)Where the price escalates rapidly is if you order an appetizer and before dinner drinks and a bottle of wine ... and then there are places like this one where the "chef's tasting menu" runs $295 with a $215 wine accompaniment added. I can't see that.
(https://www.brasseriemargot.com/)menu | Lazy Betty Atlanta (https://www.lazybettyatl.com/menu)
Meanwhile, we have two PERSIAN places near us, both are quite good.
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Beef in Europe in general is well below American standards. The high-end French steakhouses used to import Argentinian beef due to its better quality, no idea if that's still what they do as I haven't eaten steak in France in many many years now. But the beef going into the standard French braised dishes was still just the low-grade Euro fare.
I can imagine that it's difficult to get the exact types of spices and staples. For example flour could certainly be milled differently there, to a different final size/grind, or from different strains of wheat, and even some slight variation could manifest as a difference in the final product. Not necessarily "worse" but also not the same as over there.
French restaurants do pretty well here in Austin, we have a few that have been around for decades, and a few more that are more recent but solid contributors to the scene. It's interesting to me that Italian food is so much more ubiquitous. And not just checkered tablecloth Italian-American, but true Italian. I think people just find it more accessible than French cooking for some reason. And it's not necessarily price because the top "true Italian" restaurants in Austin, are at least as pricey as the French ones.
Yes, but Tuscany. Man, they know how to do it.
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I roughly "equate" Italian and French restaurants in terms of price and quality. I think "we" usually think French is automatically more expensive. It has that cache, while "Italian" means pizza and spaghetti, even when it doesn't. A really good Italian place will be just as expensive aside from the ultra high end "French" places.
It's a bit odd as I think of it, I've had in France "Mexican" food and "Japanese" food at places, but I can't recall seeing an Italian place. I probably am not looking for one of course. A true "French bistro" outside Paris often is relatively inexpensive and relatively very very good.
The "Mexican" place was ... weird.
I had barbecue in Scotland once and it was pretty decent, the real thing.
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We have lunch at this place fairly often. They have a nice patio, and if weather is bad a great bar overlooking the patio. Lunches are in the $15-20 range. We got to know the owner who is Korean originally. The chefs are all Mexicans. Dinners run $25-40, so it's a tad cheaper than the French places, a few bucks. She has pretty decent wine pricing.
Menu — Pasta da Pulcinella (https://pastadapulcinella.com/menu)
Given a choice between French and Italian I'm "Hmmmm." Of course, if you add in Indian/Korean/Chinese/Japanese/Persian/Greek, I'm also the same, it's all great to me.
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If someone asked me where to visit in Illinois, I'd have a hard time telling them to go anywhere.
Galena maybe? Starved Rock maybe?
I'd tell them to keep driving and go North, most likely.
cache river area
it's no yellowstone but southern ill is pretty.
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People shouldn't have animals/pets.
i'm suspicious of ppl that don't love dogs.
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i'm suspicious of ppl that don't love dogs.
I'm suspicious of people when dogs don't like them.
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I'm suspicious of people that DO love cats...
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cache river area
it's no yellowstone but southern ill is pretty.
It's Northern Alabama.
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Kentucky
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Alabama skips right over Tennessee and Kentucky into Southern Illinois.
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Piggybacking on brad and SF's earlier comments about War and Peace....
Most "classic" works I've ever read (or was required to read) sucked. I love reading, love many, many books and authors. But a bunch of supposedly great works bored me to tears. Great Expectations, Great Gatsby, Catcher in the Rye, Lord of the Flies, Grapes of Wrath, all come to mind. Maybe I was too young to appreciate them....I dunno. I didn't enjoy them in the least.
There are books by Jane Austen which are considered classics, and Little Women, none of which I've read, nor do I suspect I'd enjoy any more than any of the others listed.
I see Dostoevsky's are listed as classics, those were fine. I liked The Count of Monte Cristo. Most of that stuff tho, just makes me think it's for pompous people who want to get together at aristocratic parties, sip tea with their pinky fingers out, jerk each other off about the fancy schools they attended and pretend to be cultured and deep and thoughtful and better than the plebes. Give me Harry Potter any day over that stuff.
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I completely disagree with this statement. A restaurant without a good burger is not a good restaurant.
If I have to order the burger, usually it means I’m giving up on the rest of the menu.
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yup - I make burgers at home
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Piggybacking on brad and SF's earlier comments about War and Peace....
Most "classic" works I've ever read (or was required to read) sucked. I love reading, love many, many books and authors. But a bunch of supposedly great works bored me to tears. Great Expectations, Great Gatsby, Catcher in the Rye, Lord of the Flies, Grapes of Wrath, all come to mind. Maybe I was too young to appreciate them....I dunno. I didn't enjoy them in the least.
There are books by Jane Austen which are considered classics, and Little Women, none of which I've read, nor do I suspect I'd enjoy any more than any of the others listed.
I see Dostoevsky's are listed as classics, those were fine. I liked The Count of Monte Cristo. Most of that stuff tho, just makes me think it's for pompous people who want to get together at aristocratic parties, sip tea with their pinky fingers out, jerk each other off about the fancy schools they attended and pretend to be cultured and deep and thoughtful and better than the plebes. Give me Harry Potter any day over that stuff.
I read several of the "classics" in my 30s and enjoyed them much more than I did as a high school student when I was forced to read many of them. The perspective of (a little more) age mattered. But I still couldn't stand War and Peace or Moby Dick. :-) (I think I read those in my 40s.) As for Jane Austen, I just never saw the point, so I never tried her again. I did reread the Scarlet Letter, and while I can hardly remember it, I was much more impressed with it as an adult than I was in high school.
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A book I loathed in HS was "Red Badge of Courage". I really hated it. I reread it decades later and thought it was pretty great literature.
I picked up some of Heinlein's stuff lately and thought it was mostly garbage.
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I read several of the "classics" in my 30s and enjoyed them much more than I did as a high school student when I was forced to read many of them. The perspective of (a little more) age mattered. But I still couldn't stand War and Peace or Moby Dick. :-) (I think I read those in my 40s.) As for Jane Austen, I just never saw the point, so I never tried her again. I did reread the Scarlet Letter, and while I can hardly remember it, I was much more impressed with it as an adult than I was in high school.
You need head meds, good sir.
I only attempted in high school. Couldn't pull it off. Worst book of all time. Went the "Cliff's Notes" route and, of course -- failed the test, as I also did for every other test where I attempted the "Cliff's Notes" shortcut.
One that I remember "liking" in high school was Ethan Frome. Can't recall much about it now, but remember not hating it.
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I see Dostoevsky's are listed as classics, those were fine. I liked The Count of Monte Cristo. Most of that stuff tho, just makes me think it's for pompous people who want to get together at aristocratic parties, sip tea with their pinky fingers out, jerk each other off about the fancy schools they attended and pretend to be cultured and deep and thoughtful and better than the plebes. Give me Harry Potter any day over that stuff.
Are you spying on me?
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A book I loathed in HS was "Red Badge of Courage". I really hated it. I reread it decades later and thought it was pretty great literature.
I picked up some of Heinlein's stuff lately and thought it was mostly garbage.
I read several of Heinlein's books and enjoyed them, but I was a kid. I wonder if that would change now. They were pretty readable for a kid so I thought he must be consider YA fiction. I've been a bit surprised to learn he's considered the author of some "classics" and is taken so seriously. I figured he was for 'tweens.
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lolz, I'm just kidding, guys.....
...y'all know I'm the product of Louisiana public education and can't read.
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Assigning classic works of literature at the high school level is a waste of time. Such a low % of the students are going to get anything out of them, much less enjoy them. A low-enough % are going to actually read the text, period.
That's why people tend to appreciate them more as adults. They're adult-level, and if not, their age and detachment from our modern society make them adult-level.
Exposure would be fine. Excerpts. Context. That would make sense.
Giving some 15 year old boy from Las Vegas a thousand-word, 19th-century novel about Russian aristocrats in 2025 is a fool's errand.
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Ha! I love all the classics listed above. I loved Great Gatsby so much I went out and bought everything Fitzgerald ever wrote. To this day he remains my favorite author.
I love all the classics, except as we've discussed, War and Peace. And also one other not mentioned above, The Good Earth by Pearl S. Buck. That was truly the worst book ever written, I am convinced.
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I'm reading almost exclusively on the Libby app now, and our library doesn't have some of the Heinlein works I'd like to try and I gave away my copies.
My partial list of unpopular (or weird) opinions:
1. Chamberlain had no real choice at Munich.
2. The Maginot Line did it's job.
3. Manstein was the best general in WW 2.
4. Paris is my least favorite city in France.
5. The port cities in Asia all look alike.
6. Nick Chubb was better than Herschel.
7. Pride and Prejudice is a great novel.
8. People around the world are more alike than not.
9. The world would have been better off had Germany won WW 1.
10. Facebook can be pretty amusing.
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Pride and Prejudice was fine. I prefer the Bronte sisters to Jane Austen to be honest. I read pretty much everything written by all three in late high school when I was trying to impress a cute theater girl who was into chick literature.
Fortunately, it worked.
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I read the Great Gatsby in college, really enjoyed it and my number one Takeaway was that I would’ve gotten very little out of it in high school
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Other opinions:
1. My go to "hot sauce" is Tabasco green.
2. I prefer chicken legs to chicken wings.
3. Gambling is a tax on the mathematically challenged.
4. Okra is delicious, even boiled, but is best fried.
5. Good enough is better than perfect.
6. I fear our country is headed downhill.
7. Land set aside for parks is nearly always desirable.
8. I prefer the mountains to the beach.
9. Hardly any place serves fresh fish any more.
10. The needs of the many etc etc.
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OK, I doubt I would be interested in any of the above.
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FORE!!!
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If I have to order the burger, usually it means I’m giving up on the rest of the menu.
See that's the thing. I like burgers, a lot. And whenever I go to a new place, I order the burger if they have one. If it is not good, neither is the restaurant. Making a good burger is a test. They are easy to F up - kinda like an omelet.
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See that's the thing. I like burgers, a lot. And whenever I go to a new place, I order the burger if they have one. If it is not good, neither is the restaurant. Making a good burger is a test. They are easy to F up - kinda like an omelet.
Yeah I hear ya. First time I go to a Tex-Mex place, I order the standard cheese enchiladas with brown chile gravy con carne.
If that doesn't come out right, then they're off the list and I'm never coming back.
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You need head meds, good sir.
I only attempted in high school. Couldn't pull it off. Worst book of all time. Went the "Cliff's Notes" route and, of course -- failed the test, as I also did for every other test where I attempted the "Cliff's Notes" shortcut.
One that I remember "liking" in high school was Ethan Frome. Can't recall much about it now, but remember not hating it.
Well, we felt the same way about it in high school. I don't remember why I read it again, or even anything specific about it other than the highest level of what it was about, but I do remember thinking it wasn't terrible.
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Most "classic" works I've ever read (or was required to read) sucked. I love reading, love many, many books and authors. But a bunch of supposedly great works bored me to tears. Great Expectations, Great Gatsby, Catcher in the Rye, Lord of the Flies, Grapes of Wrath, all come to mind. Maybe I was too young to appreciate them....I dunno. I didn't enjoy them in the least.
I do think some of those might be in the "too young to appreciate" arena. Some I might actually decide to reread--not Great Expectations though.
I read the Grapes of Wrath as an adult. I thought it was really quite good. Obviously there's nothing like living through the Great Depression, but I'm sure that the perspective I had on that book after living through the pop of the dot com bubble and getting laid off is probably different than it was when I was in high school working at Subway.
I read several of Heinlein's books and enjoyed them, but I was a kid. I wonder if that would change now. They were pretty readable for a kid so I thought he must be consider YA fiction. I've been a bit surprised to learn he's considered the author of some "classics" and is taken so seriously. I figured he was for 'tweens.
Heinlein's work is layered IMHO. Kind of like Pixar movies--in one sense they're "for kids", but there's a lot to appreciate in there as an adult.
If you think of Heinlein's work as just the story portion, it's a lot of basic sci-fi plots. But if you look at some of it deeper...
- Starship Troopers: Pretty much a story about war with bugs, right? Well, all the flashbacks to the professor and the "History and Moral Philosophy" class from boot camp is some pretty weighty stuff about duty, service, the relationship between citizen and state, the social contract, etc.
- The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress: Just a basic war for independence novel, right? Nope. Pretty much anything Professor Bernardo de la Paz says in there is philosophy coming out. And there's a reason people today know what "TANSTAAFL" means... It's a pretty powerful concept.
- Stranger in a Strange Land: Anything said by Jubal Harshaw is philosophy coming out.
- Pretty much all of the story arcs involving Lazarus Long, he plays not just the protagonist, but that "philosophy" character as well.
Now, you may take some of it or leave it, from a philosophy perspective.
But both Starship Troopers and The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress are short enough books that I'd bet if you go back and reread them... You'll see a lot more depth that maybe you missed as a YA, because you didn't have the context with which to interpret it yet.
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See that's the thing. I like burgers, a lot. And whenever I go to a new place, I order the burger if they have one. If it is not good, neither is the restaurant. Making a good burger is a test. They are easy to F up - kinda like an omelet.
I agree. If you don't put in the effort to make your burger good, I don't necessarily trust you as a restaurant.
My wife is like that with Italian food. First time at a new place she'll order the lasagna. If the lasagna sucks, we're probably never going back.
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At an Italian place, I'll do meatballs. If they are not good, it's a no-return.
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Speaking of changing tastes as an adult, I had my first pizza at age 15, my first "Mexican" at 17 (in college, I wondered what this new kind of food could be, didn't like it). I didn't like beer for a long time, started drinking macroswill a bit but only when I had pizza. Then I "discovered" Dark Schlitz, on tap, at a bar in Athens where I'd go for lunch. I probably would hate it today.
I was at some club dinner of some ilk and ordered a glass of wine to try and impress the girls there. As I recall, it came in like a jelly jar, I could barely drink it. I had had Boone's Farm and thought it was pretty good, better than beer. I then concocted a mixed drink which consisted of vodka and Tang powder, I called it a "John Collins" because that's my name, in part.
At one point, I started smoking a pipe, on occasion, mostly to try and impress ... somebody. I didn't like it much, fortunately.
My Dad would only eat "basic foods" so we never had spaghetti, when I first had it I thought it was better than sliced bread. I still do. As a kid, I HATED cheese, of any kind, smelly moldy disgusting orange stuff. In part this was because my Dad would buy this store block cheddar than just wasn't very good.
When I started liking wine, for real, I started with sweeter wines, then CA chardonnay, then milder cabs and merlots, then I had a long zinfandel run, then back to cabs, then French, then Italian, then some quasi exotic types like Sancerre and Mueller Thurgau, then Australian, Argentinian, Spanish ... then finally pinot noir and back to good chardonnays, so our tastes evolve, which is fun.
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I agree. If you don't put in the effort to make your burger good, I don't necessarily trust you as a restaurant.
My wife is like that with Italian food. First time at a new place she'll order the lasagna. If the lasagna sucks, we're probably never going back.
Pepperoni Pizza is how I initially gauge a pizza place.
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Other opinions:
1. My go to "hot sauce" is Tabasco green.
Wow. That is a hot [mild, actually] take. While you are entitled to eat what you like, that would not be my choice.
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Getting back in the spirit of the thread...
Gymnastics is not a sport. In fact nothing with a judged outcome, is a sport. They can be highly competitive athletic events requiring tremendous individual skill, but still, not a sport.
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Is golf a sport?
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Getting back in the spirit of the thread...
Gymnastics is not a sport. In fact nothing with a judged outcome, is a sport. They can be highly competitive athletic events requiring tremendous individual skill, but still, not a sport.
This may be realize that a called strike three is almost a judged outcome.
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Golf is not a sport.
Nope.
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What about NCAA swimming and diving?
There's a judged element with the diving, but then there are also races.
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Swimming's a sport. Diving's not a sport.
Although I'll certainly continue to be happy about any swimming and diving trophies the NCAA wants to throw Texas' way...
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which track events are sports vs non-sports?
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Are any track events judged?
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Is Golf judged?
How about horse racing? Sport?
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horse racing is a sport for the horses
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Are any track events judged?
There are judges, but not to judge form, just distance or time etc. Golf could be a sport for those who carry their own clubs and walk ...
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Is Javelin more of a sport than golf?
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Javelin catcher is more of a sport.
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What if in the near future all judges were AI based so that all biases were removed and all scoring was done fairly?
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I used to get a kick out of the East German judges scoring in events.
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I've totally quit watching any activity that involves complex judging, I just don't care.
It's akin to reading a review of a recent concert, it's someone's opinion, not mine.
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A book I loathed in HS was "Red Badge of Courage". I really hated it. I reread it decades later and thought it was pretty great literature.
I picked up some of Heinlein's stuff lately and thought it was mostly garbage.
I love heinleins "the moon is a harsh mistress" great concepts excellent story and love the political philosophy. TANSTAAFL
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What if in the near future all judges were AI based so that all biases were removed and all scoring was done fairly?
Bias can be programmed, right?
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The discus throw is disc golf, minus the game.
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horse racing is a sport for the horses
Just like Amish drag racing.
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I've totally quit watching any activity that involves complex judging, I just don't care.
It's akin to reading a review of a recent concert, it's someone's opinion, not mine.
Figure skating, gymnastics-- judged, not sports.
But being judged isn't the only criterion that exempts an activity from being a sport.
Billiards, bowling, poker-- also not sports.
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College football wasn't a sport until 1998? haha
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College football wasn't a sport until 1998? haha
Nope. At least as far as determining a national champion.
Really wasn't until the 12-team CFP honestly, because that was the first time you had an [almost] objective way to gain entry--winning your conference (if you were P4, anyway).
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Is golf a sport?
Nope.
Of course it is finely tuned, stream lined specimans that require very specific physical attributes like BWARB/FF reflect dedication, discipline, and a commitment to fitness. Shunning alcohol,high fat intake,fried foods and BBQ....oh waite
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I can't deem something a sport if there's zero cardio involved.
For those, it's a 'game of skill.'
Golf is a game of skill. Even with the 'carrying your own bags' argument.
Bowling is a game of skill.
Zero running around at all = not a sport
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baseball is a game of skill
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Hitting major league level pitching is basically impossible.
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not for this guy
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If you selected at random 1,000 US males between the ages of 18 and 38, what percentage could hit major league pitching, just to hit a fair ball in ten pitches?
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1%
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how many months of practice do they get?
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I'd guess one percent, with zero practice. Maybe double that if you had a month to practice on a machine. But I'm talking pitching with every pitch in an arsenal of a typical major league pitcher, curves, sliders, changeups, fastballs on the black, etc. A changeup in MLB is a lot faster than a fastball in high school.
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the mighty Cooper DeJean (Eagles Super Bowl hero) outstanding high school baseball player couldn't hit a high school girl softball pitcher last week
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I don't really care for breakfast sausage. It's okay, I don't hate it, but I'm never going to choose it off the menu or in the breakfast buffet line.
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Same.
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what the hell is wrong with you people?
Sausage is ALWAYS good - any type, any time, any where
Links, patties, whatever
especially covered in gravy
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Chicken sausage sucks. Turkey sausage sucks.
That is all.
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I prefer bacon with my biscuits and gravy.
And actually, I don't really love any sausage. It's all fine, I'll eat it if it's all that's offered, but I really consider it to be filler.
Smoked sausage is a big deal around these parts, but I just don't care about it. I'll skip it in favor of more brisket and ribs, thank you very much.
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Chicken sausage sucks. Turkey sausage sucks.
That is all.
well, ya
I don't even cornsider those atrocities
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I prefer bacon with my biscuits and gravy.
And actually, I don't really love any sausage. It's all fine, I'll eat it if it's all that's offered, but I really consider it to be filler.
Smoked sausage is a big deal around these parts, but I just don't care about it. I'll skip it in favor of more brisket and ribs, thank you very much.
I like Polish Sausage, and not much else. I can stomach a brat from time to time, I suppose.
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very unpopular
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Chicken sausage sucks. Turkey sausage sucks.
That is all.
Alas, they're all I can eat anymore, except very early in the morning :03:
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I like higher quality breakfast sausage a lot. My wife does not, so we don't buy it.
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I decided to be a "sunshine fan". If "my team" isin't doing well, I stop watching.
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stopped watching the braves?
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Yup, I stopped. Losing is one thing, but they are losing and looking bad doing it. It's depressing.
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Chicken sausage sucks. Turkey sausage sucks.
That is all.
sausage is almost exclusively good or bad based on the spices and not the meat.
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well, that's an unpopular opinion
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sausage is almost exclusively good or bad based on the spices and not the meat.
I'm no sausage aficionado as I noted above, but I don't think this is true. A large part of the taste/appeal of a sausage, is related to the amount of fat, and type of fat, used in the grind. One reason the chicken and turkey sausages are less desirable to many folks, is because they are so much leaner than beef/pork sausages.
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The cheaper pork sausage to me are high in fat and low in taste. The better ones still have plenty of fat but a good balance and I like the flavors.
The stuff at cheaper restaurants is pretty ... boring, often over cooked and dry.
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We had leftover ground mild Italian sausage from making pizza last night, so I just made myself a sausage sandwich for lunch.
Simply formed it into a patty, seared it up in a pan, on some nice thick bread with mayo and stone ground IPA mustard.
Not gourmet, but hit the spot.
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I decided to be a "sunshine fan". If "my team" isin't doing well, I stop watching.
So maybe 3-4 seasons in the last 30 years at most? MMMMkay.
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Heh. I don't mind the 11 AM games but not in August/September. There should be nothing but night games in Austin until October.
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That man has never had to tailgate for an 11 AM start in his life.
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agreed, 11am sharkwater parties never end well
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I'm interested in hearing "liberal" proposals on the undocumented alien issue. I see a lot of complaints about what the Administration is doing, fine, but what would you/they want done?
Ignore them, carry on as usual? Give them all "papers" of some sort? Citizenship?
At the same time, I don't think the notion we can deport them all is remotely realistic, not going to happen.
So, perhaps some middle ground?
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sausage is almost exclusively good or bad based on the spices and not the meat.
Ya the local guy makes a chicken/pork blend sausage, fused with jamaican jerk spices. And his prices have skyrocketed as he can hardly keep it on the shelves when he has so many other specialty sticks he's whipping up.
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Sausage basically is a way to take cuts we'd normally not eat and blend them into goo and add enough spices that folks will eat them. A lot of nitrites added often as not.
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as with any ground meat
I really don't like paying $4/pound for ground meat
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I think ground beef in general is a decent cut of meat like chuck or round ground up without fillers or additives but with some level of fat added. Sausage to me is different.
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The cheaper pork sausage to me are high in fat and low in taste. The better ones still have plenty of fat but a good balance and I like the flavors.
The stuff at cheaper restaurants is pretty ... boring, often over cooked and dry.
there is nothing better(IMHO) than oiling the sausage cases with olive oil(I roll them around together in a corn cobb serving dish) and slow roasting them indirect on the cooler side of the grill. Slowly bringing them up to just below the bursting point and pulling them 😍. Topped with just Stadium Mustard and raw diced onion on fresh seeded Pepperidge Farm Sausage Buns (or similiar). The fresh bun fits snuggly around this delite holding it together and in itself is tasty
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I think ground beef in general is a decent cut of meat like chuck or round ground up without fillers or additives but with some level of fat added. Sausage to me is different.
well, you've heard of pink slime
a local small butcher shop might be using chuck and round scraps
not gonna get that at Costco
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as with any ground meat
I really don't like paying $4/pound for ground meat
Got 6 & 3/4 lbs for 6.71 total yesterday at the Grocer where I work part time on the docks. My buddy who runs the back warehouse tips me off when the lady in the meat dept tips him off. Anything approaching sell by date is reduced priced to move,getting great excersize,deals and paid too 😎 . After a day anything still there goes on a cart and into the deep freeze for the Cleveland Food Bank.Some of it appears at the food pantry give away where I volunteer on thursdays - also great excersize - gotta do it if I wan't to keep tossing back some suds eating dawgs and living like Ralph "Now I Know Why We Play Golf, to Get Away From Our Wives" Kramden
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Yup, I stopped. Losing is one thing, but they are losing and looking bad doing it. It's depressing.
What do you want from a 212 million dollar payroll? Picky - jeez. Try following the Indians for 5 decades
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I think much ado was made about pink slime that was silliness. That's why it's not a thing any more.
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as with any ground meat
I really don't like paying $4/pound for ground meat
On sale here.
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That man has never had to tailgate for an 11 AM start in his life.
Ya and CFB GameDay is a clown show suckfest (in my best Mdot) and is a no go
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Heh. I don't mind the 11 AM games but not in August/September. There should be nothing but night games in Austin until October.
I wish there were nothing but night games in Death Valley, ever.
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When I was a kid, one could buy "real" ground sirloin, it was very tasty if it had the right fat content. Kroger started labeling their lower fat ground beef as ground sirloin, they have since stopped because it isn't, it's just lower fat. And not very tasty.
I imagine my butcher shop would do this for me now.
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I buy ground sirloin. Publix sells that, and they also sell 93 percent lean. The latter has no taste.
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I don't often walk over to the local butcher, but maybe next time I ask about it. They are pretty accomodating. My issue is the beef at Costco is as good as their IMHO and quite a bit cheaper, and we don't eat beef that often anyway.
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All the Costcos around here grind their own meat and do a decent amount of the butchering. If they don't have something in the counter or refrigerators you can usually ask for it and they can cut it custom for you. I pretty much buy meat exclusively at Costco now, unless I need something quick and then go to the closest grocery store.
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I'd guess that if it's labeled ground chuck or sirloin it's required to have a certain percentage of that cut
such as free range chicken
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Why would they put a certain percentage of free range chicken in your ground sirloin???
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I basically ignore most labels like "free range", "gluten free", "organic", "hypoallergenic", whatever, as marketing ploys with little substance behind them, or meaning, or advantage.
My "beef" with Tito's is the label claiming it is gluten free. Find me a vodka with gluten.
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My "beef" with Tito's is the label claiming it is gluten free. Find me a vodka with gluten.
But they're not lying are they?
I suppose some people might think that vodka distilled from wheat could have gluten (it doesn't, the distillation process removes the gluten proteins).
Tito's is distilled from corn so I imagine they're just reassuring the public that it's all good.
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All this is why I grind my own for burgers. Means what cut of beef goes in there is what I plan to go in there. Also that I'll get the right texture (coarse) grind, as store-bought ground beef is a finer grind than I prefer for burgers.
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I basically ignore most labels like "free range", "gluten free", "organic", "hypoallergenic", whatever, as marketing ploys with little substance behind them, or meaning, or advantage.
My "beef" with Tito's is the label claiming it is gluten free. Find me a vodka with gluten.
HA! find me a free range Chicken also you can but not by the masses that claim to. Great book if you're curious enough that really delves in to a lot of this stuff in the food and farming industry is "The Omnivore's Dilemma". Much poultry has been herded like cattle and are free to walk around massive structures with small openings to go out of but they hardly ever do as they been been funneled to the feeders and water and slightly recoginize the outside as an option. All this charade just to slap the "FREE RANGE" tag on their package.
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But they're not lying are they?
I suppose some people might think that vodka distilled from wheat could have gluten (it doesn't, the distillation process removes the gluten proteins).
Tito's is distilled from corn so I imagine they're just reassuring the public that it's all good.
Well how good is corn for you really? ya know with the exception of corn chips of course
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My step son wanted me to buy only "cage free" eggs, so I sent him a link.
"Hypoallergenic" sounds really good and means absolutely nothing.
On occasion, I see some bottled water labeled "pure", which is nonsense as pure water tastes awful.
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Which makes it either 9 or 10am here. Only good thing is the late games are over in the evening instead of late at night
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Which makes it either 9 or 10am here. Only good thing is the late games are over in the evening instead of late at night
Yeah, noon games are 9 AM here. But since I like to get up early, that works nicely for me. It would be weird now to actually be back East where noon games don't start until... well... noon.
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In my head, the Biggest Games are at 3;30, which I know isn't always the case today.
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In my head, the Biggest Games are at 3;30, which I know isn't always the case today.
Not since the B1G took over CBS, and put their 5th best game in that slot.
Good call, CBS. Should’ve resigned the SEC if you were going to be left with scraps.
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Who has the B1G's premier games? FOX?
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11 AM Central also became ABC's national time slot and 2:30 became the regional. That happened about 2 decades ago now. ABC also sometimes runs a primetime game which is also considered national. And Fox likes to put its biggest game at "Big Noon" as well.
So outside of the SEC on CBS when that was a thing, 2:30 Central is actually the weakest timeslot for over-the-air broadcasts.
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Yeah, it's all weird. I used to watch UGA playing Charleston Northern on Jefferson Pilot with picture quality from the 1950s at noon and then watch a big game at 3:30.
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Yeah, it's all weird. I used to watch UGA playing Charleston Northern on Jefferson Pilot with picture quality from the 1950s at noon and then watch a big game at 3:30.
Yeah here in Texico we had "RayCom" which was very much like Jefferson Pilot.
ABC used to have its national timeslot at 2:30 and regional was 11 AM, and they also just about never ran a primetime game. They reversed all that in the early 2000s, around 2003 I think I once pinpointed. That's when TX-OU which was usually a national game in most years, switched from being at 2:30 most years, to 11 AM.
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Yeah here in Texico we had "RayCom" which was very much like Jefferson Pilot.
ABC used to have its national timeslot at 2:30 and regional was 11 AM, and they also just about never ran a primetime game. They reversed all that in the early 2000s, around 2003 I think I once pinpointed. That's when TX-OU which was usually a national game in most years, switched from being at 2:30 most years, to 11 AM.
We had both, JP and Raycom, at one time or another here in the mid-south.
They did crappy SEC games better than ESPN.
I guess because they were happy to have it, and happy to be there. They at least injected some life into an 11:00 South Carolina vs Miss St. tilt.
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So outside of the SEC on CBS when that was a thing, 2:30 Central is actually the weakest timeslot for over-the-air broadcasts.
the SEC owns the 2:30 timeslot and they get better ratings, so............ FOX & ABC went to 11am/noon because they can't compete
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the SEC owns the 2:30 timeslot and they get better ratings, so............ FOX & ABC went to 11am/noon because they can't compete
Probably true for Fox but ABC did it 20 years ago, they figured out that more people are sitting around at 11 AM but are out and about by 2:30.
Except in the Dirty South where all the Jaspers and Cletuses just sit around drinking moonshine in front of the TV all day long.
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Probably true for Fox but ABC did it 20 years ago, they figured out that more people are sitting around at 11 AM but are out and about by 2:30.
Except in the Dirty South where all the Jaspers and Cletuses just sit around drinking moonshine in front of the TV all day long.
And us.
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The occasional low key Saturday noon game playing some pastry could be enjoyed a bit.
The high intensity night games are ... different.
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I didn't think Tom Brady was as bad as everyone piled on him for being last year as a first-year broadcaster.
Lots of room to improve--and he needs to--but for a first crack at it I thought he was better than he was getting credit for.
My wife thought he was awful and frequently voiced her displeasure with trading Greg Olsen for him.
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I don't recall ever seeing a Tom Brady broadcast last year. They must have been putting him on games with good teams, not the Cowboys.
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I didn't think Tom Brady was as bad as everyone piled on him for being last year as a first-year broadcaster.
Lots of room to improve--and he needs to--but for a first crack at it I thought he was better than he was getting credit for.
My wife thought he was awful and frequently voiced her displeasure with trading Greg Olsen for him.
Your wife is correct.
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I thought he was OK, but nowhere near the quality that is Olson.
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Passenger jets should have afterburning engines.
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We had both, JP and Raycom, at one time or another here in the mid-south.
They did crappy SEC games better than ESPN.
I guess because they were happy to have it, and happy to be there. They at least injected some life into an 11:00 South Carolina vs Miss St. tilt.
Probably a sell-out in either stadium - Stark-vegas is tiny and Carolina has a rabid fanbase.
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How long until we get an AI Keith Jackson calling games live? I'd like an AI Franklin and Patrick night game, personally.
Or an old Frank Broyles AI color commentary, always citing the "safety man." lol
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How long until we get an AI Keith Jackson calling games live? I'd like an AI Franklin and Patrick night game, personally.
Or an old Frank Broyles AI color commentary, always citing the "safety man." lol
Gottfried***
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AI Fran Drescher and Gilbert Gottfried?
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I'd like an AI Franklin and Patrick night game, personally.
Thought ya wrote AL Franken,I'm thinkin' throw in Jesse the Body and make it an all Gopher booth
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AI Fran Drescher and Gilbert Gottfried?
as long as we're imagining how about King Arthur and taunting French Knight from MPs Holy Grail. Along with Scotsman Tim the Enchanter (warned of the killer Rabbit) as a sideline analyst
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Thought ya wrote AL Franken,I'm thinkin' throw in Jesse the Body and make it an all Gopher booth
and the golden boy?
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Gottfried***
Jesus, my brain is broken. Made the same mistake when Patrick died. FFS
Thanks.
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Now I'm picturing Al Franken and Danica Patrick calling a college football game. THAT would be interesting, as a car wreck is.
Am I the only one who really REALLY misses Franklin and Gottfried night games?
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Now I'm picturing Al Franken and Danica Patrick calling a college football game. THAT would be interesting, as a car wreck is.
Am I the only one who really REALLY misses Franklin and Gottfried night games?
You are not alone. This Vol is in lockstep on the topic. They were gold together, especially calling the SEC.
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Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports... all the others are games
- Ernest Hemingway
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Now I'm picturing Al Franken and Danica Patrick calling a college football game. THAT would be interesting, as a car wreck is.
Am I the only one who really REALLY misses Franklin and Gottfried night games?
I remember catching a few of the games and he(Franklin) was solid but he got shit canned after calling different female sideline reporters a couple of X some weird remarks. One of the games he called(for Houston Oilers radio) I do remember is the '79 Steelers/Oilers AFC CCG on NBC where Dick Enberg (a classic also)for the right to go to the Super Bowl. The Oilers got jobbed but there was no instant replay back then. But NFL Films rehashing that classic, chimed in with his Franklin's radio remarks
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AI Fran Drescher and Gilbert Gottfried?
That's certainly appropriate for the Unpopular Opinions thread.
Viewer suicide rates would skyrocket.
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Scientists believe that a function of a zebra’s stripes is to deter insects, so a team of researchers painted black and white stripes on several cows and discovered that it reduced the number of biting flies landing on the cows by more than 50%
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Damn, i needed a zebra shirt last night then....cookout in rural GA, great steaks, but fucking hell - all the gnats and mosquitoes you can imagine. Sheer misery.
After living in AZ for 15+ years and having basically zero flying insects, it made it clear it's worth moving out west if only for that reason.
Ugh.
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Scorpions and rattlesnakes.
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Scorpions ain't no big thing. And rattlesnakes are good eatin'.
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Rattlesnakes aren't particularly aggressive. Scorpion stings just make you go numb.
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One usually can have a cookout without confronting snakes or other vermin, but you can't avoid flying bugs if they are prevalent in your area. I can sit on our balcony usually without bugs because they are 20 meters or so above GL.
We get hummingbirds up here, my wife has a feeder.
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We get hummingbirds up here, my wife has a feeder.
We have three feeders... Because hummingbirds are apparently territorial assholes.
When we only had one feeder, they'd hover there and basically try to scare each other off of it. With three, it's much less common to see that.
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You didn't want to invite friends over to drink and place bets? Hum-fighting ring? No??
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Yeah, they are funny. At our home in Cincy, the wife had one feeder just above where I liked to sit on the deck, and the hummers would hover around me wanting me to leave, I wouldn't, and they finally would feed. I did see two of them apparently OK with each other, but there was a third they didn't like and would fight.
We only see one here, it may be the same one year after year for a bit, not sure.
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Scorpions...the bigger they are, the less dangerous.
Rattlesnakes have the decency to warn you first.
I haven't had any issues with either.
But you can't have a cookout in the spring here, as it's stupid-windy the moment it warms up. And then once that's over, it's 115 and you can't have a cookout because YOU are the cookout.
All worth it not to deal with flying insects. So worth it.
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Scorpions ain't no big thing. And rattlesnakes are good eatin'.
According to Bobby Boucher.
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I've had rattlesnake - it was OK
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Tastes like chicken.
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I've had rattlesnake at the Gilroy Garlic Festival.
It tasted like chicken... Plus garlic.
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I'm just averse to the idea of knowing that I'm putting a snake in my mouth.
utee94 fed me cow tongue one time. It was weird, and not particularly good, but I'd eat it 100x before I'd eat a snake.
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I do not recall ever serving lengua, but I do like it, so maybe I did?
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You've had kids since then. By now that has fallen out of your dad-brain.