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The Power Five => SEC => Tennessee => Topic started by: TREX on March 21, 2023, 11:02:23 AM
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https://twitter.com/LynnRTyler/status/1637931387151056897?s=20
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Let him lose next weekend and see if doesn't soundalike the back door of a place on the Southside of Poplar Ave
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Let him loose next weekend and see if doesn't soundalike the back door of a place on the Southside of Poplar Ave
You are right. But for now they are quiet
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Just some thoughts on the matter. Expressed on another site.
After FAU:
Well, here we go. The natives are getting restless...
Barnes has taken a UT program that was a dumpster fire after... whoever the previous two coaches were, the names don't spring to mind...
And built one of the best programs in the country. And given us one of the three or four best eras in program history. If not higher.
And did it with class, and not a hint of scandal.
He has his drawbacks. His post-season performance is a matter of record. Not as quantifiable:
a penchant for taking 5-stars, and turning them into 3-stars (e.g., Philips). With the trade-off, taking 3s and turning them into 4s and 5s (e.g., Williams, Bone, Admiral).
He really needs a deep run this year, to stave off the trolls and negavols. And I hope he gets one. If we get hot -- which no one can account for -- and cut down turnovers, we have two platoons that can keep us in the game with ANYBODY. We should've beaten the Cajuns by at least 20. We're our own worst enemy right now. But it's sports, and anything can happen. And does.
I hope we make at least the Elite 8. And that CRB is contemplating retiring, on his own terms, and with dignity.
He's earned it.
After Duke:
Let's see...what was it I said? Oh yeah...
"(Barnes) really needs a deep run this year, to stave off the trolls and negavols. And I hope he gets one. If we get hot -- which no one can account for -- and cut down turnovers, we have two platoons that can keep us in the game with ANYBODY. We should've beaten the Cajuns by at least 20. We're our own worst enemy right now. But it's sports, and anything can happen. And does."
And that, fellas, is why I get paid the big bucks (LOL).
Turns out, Barnes CAN coach a little bit.
Now coach -- don't make me eat my words...
FDU did us a huge solid. We didn't want to see that big fellow for Purdue.
Gotta get this next one. After that: three more to a natty.
If ONE GUY gets a hot hand, and one or two don't go into a shell -- like today --
we can beat ANYBODY. Two platoons. All night long...
Say -- where is that prince of a fella who said:
"Tennessee is not even in the same class as Duke, by along shot. Duke will win by at least 20."
That kind of clairvoyance doesn't come along every day.
I watched about the last 10 minutes of the FAU-FDU game. I was impressed. Those boys can play -- both teams. The FDU pg was a ZZ clone. If he made the layup on that spectacular move, when it was still close... it just wouldn't drop.
It doesn't SEEM like FAU's bench is too deep. I hope I'm right. Two-platoon 'em. Wear their asses out with our D. Take 'em to the end of the shot clock, over and over. Make shots. Don't turn it over.
And get to the elite 8. Just to shut up the negaBarneses.
I wish I was confident about this one. But I ain't.
We'll see...
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You are right. But for now they are quiet
Was briefly watching a sports program today and they stated that Tennessee is now favored to make the final four according to Las Vegas betting line.
That doesn't do Barnes any favors.
BTW..have been following UT basketball since the mid 60's and this is the best sustained era of basketball we've enjoyed
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I love Coach Barnes. Class act all the way.
This isn’t football.
Anyone wanting Barnes fired is a damn fool.
Keep him until he doesn’t want to be here anymore.
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Was briefly watching a sports program today and they stated that Tennessee is now favored to make the final four according to Las Vegas betting line.
That doesn't do Barnes any favors.
BTW..have been following UT basketball since the mid 60's and this is the best sustained era of basketball we've enjoyed
I started in earnest when Ron Widby was playing
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I started in earnest when Ron Widby was playing
I don't go back that far.
But I remember Jimmy England...
Listening to John Ward call the play by play, in Memphis, on the old fruit gum stereo console in the living room... man, he was great. Painted the picture with words. We had a good run in the late 60s...
Then, in HS in Georgia -- everyone knew I was a big UT fan. But it was rough times. The 70s. The Vols got worse on the gridiron every year. That long streak to Bama -- I was in college when it finally ended, an upperclassman, and had become disinterested in the Vols' mediocrity. I had much bigger fish to fry...
But '75, 76. Ernie and Bernie. Cover of SI. My buddy and I -- both shooting guards/forwards -- got dubbed "Ernie and Bernie". I once got hot, and poured in 29. Got my picture in the paper. Still have the clipping. 12 of 21, "mostly from 15-25 feet." Before the 3-point line. I figure I woulda scored 35 or so with it. 8 minute quarters, if I recall. Maybe 10. Don't remember.
My moment of hardwood glory. ( ^ ;
Only I almost never played on hardwood. Mostly poured concrete, covered with tile. Like a Walmart. I discovered I could dunk late in 10th grade. Spent an afternoon just running around the gym, throwing 'em down. In old Chuck Taylor All-Stars. Flip-flops, with a canvas upper.
My knees still hurt from playing 3 years on those floors (I played before that, in Memphis. can't remember what kind of floor my JHS gym had. 9th grade, they bussed in Melrose kids. I still started. We played 'em, home and home. I've written about that before...). And 20 years of jogging in cheap shoes.
Was in a fraternity with a guy from Marietta. A UGA fan who went to school with Dale Ellis. He was more excited about Dale's success at UT than I was.
The 90s were pretty dreadful. For hoops. Great for FB, of course.
Jerry Green (?) brought us some success. I was older now, had reignited my Vol passion during the 90s.
Buzzball came along. I remember going to a football game, and catching a hoops exhibition that evening. Buzz made a bad impression on my older brother. The team would huddle on the floor during timeouts. Buzz snapped his fingers at some ball boy or something, and pointed to where his chair should go. My brother thought he was a prissy little jerk. Oh well...
Then Bruce. Happy days. Great, exciting basketball. I worked with a guy -- he was my supervisor my first couple of years. Viet Nam vet, served in Germany after that. He came from the Hood. But had acquired some polish. He made about the highest Sergeant you could make. He was a good man to work for. Early on, I was still trying to compromise my party ways with having a "real" job. He came up to me one morning, and told me "man, you got the dragon breath." I just nodded. I was still hungover. "Don't come in here like that no mo'. Heah?"
That was it. I didn't.
He was in a long-term relationship with a woman from Kentucky. He met her while stationed there. They weren't married. Except they were. He still kept a picture of his lover from Germany on a shelf behind his desk. Okay...
His "son" -- that's what he called him; his girlfriend's boy -- played ball with Chris Lofton in Mayfield. He was good, too -- wound up on the bench at Kentucky as a... teaching assistant? What do you call them?
We marveled together at Chris' success on the Hill. Talked about the game last night, that sort of thing...
What an era for UT Hoops.
And now Barnes. One of the best runs we've had. Man, I hope we get to the FF...
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Got into it Bernie’s first year.
Did not miss a single game Bernard played in Stokely.
Jerry Green was very mediocre…..Kevin O’Neil recruited all his good players.
He lived on Kevin’s talent.
Best coaches:
Mears
Pearl
Barnes
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Got into it Bernie’s first year.
Did not miss a single game Bernard played in Stokely.
Jerry Green was very mediocre…..Kevin O’Neil recruited all his good players.
He lived on Kevin’s talent.
Best coaches:
Mears
Pearl
Barnes
:singing:
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Well….damn.
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Well….damn.
I said BuhBye to Olivia He James and Uros can take their covid year and leave
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I said BuhBye to Olivia He James and Uros can take their covid year and leave
They got another year? Bring 'em back!
A good season. Injuries kept it from being a great one.
If only ZZ hadn't gotten hurt. Just when we had gotten back to full strength.
Still -- Sweet 16. Rose to #2. Pretty damn good.
The mindless "fire Barnes" crowd will use this game as ammunition. Fuck 'em.
I do hope he considers retirement, though. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little tired of this "defense first" mentality.
Grateful for what he's done, though. Want him to leave with dignity.
Oh well.
I agree with JG.
Damn.
That's about all I got to say.
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We have one athlete that isnt redshirting and he played 12 minutes tonight and scored zero
JJJ injured all time and NEVER took charge off a game. Plays like hes old as Grady from Sanford and Son
Olivia aka Xanax, Shows up 1 out of every 5 or 10 games.
Uros. Cant keep fro giving the refs a reason to beat us
Santi. The only guy of these 4 that appears to give a rats ass about winning.
Dilione will run the point next year.
Jefferson good athlete hope hes ready
Edwards hope he stays
Estrella the first talented big man we have landed in a while
Carr Skinnly as heck but confident and can score
Awaka back
Aidoo back I guess
Cade Phillip at least will put out effort till he develops
Zakia maybe ready by January
Portal
Portal
Edit Forgot Mashack. Wish he could score
We will have a hard time at first but surely we wont shoot like an 8th grade girls team
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Barnes shouldn’t be fired but damn if history doesn’t repeat itself every March with this guy…… like 20 years of NCAAT flame outs. Couldn’t have asked for a better bracket scenario this year the way the seas parted for a really deep run…. Opportunity squandered yet again
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Barnes shouldn’t be fired but damn if history doesn’t repeat itself every March with this guy…… like 20 years of NCAAT flame outs. Couldn’t have asked for a better bracket scenario this year the way the seas parted for a really deep run…. Opportunity squandered yet again
We didnt have the hosses this year.
I think I went over the roster. never seen a more passive 4th year 5 star than JJJ.
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I like barnes.. that team needs a decisive leader. They lack consistency and not once have I seen a player directing traffic on the court. They missed easy shots last night, and as I said in the shoutbox, if they'd have hit half of the easy ones they missed they'd have won by 20 points.
But yeah, I'm tired of watching them under achieve. That is the frustrating part- and it's on players not having their minds right- distracted- nonchalant lackluster effort. When they were up 15-8 it should have been 30-8. Literally.
These last few teams remind me of Georgia football under Richt... they come oh so close and they have the ability, its just some small something they're missing so the formula is retained and reapplied with hopes of better outcome.
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From what ive seen Dilione is for real. He is PART of what we are missing
I thought Phillips was an athlete but he is Soph in HS physically need weight and strength
All will hinge on getting the freshmen PT next year early. Damn the wins and losses
Dilione PG
Mashack, Edwards Jefferson and Carr 2 and 3 guards. Vescovi if he stays
Estrella and Cade Phillips 4
Awaka and Aidoo 5
Ziegler PG when and if hes ready
The others need the Ray Charles treatment
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From what ive seen Dilione is for real. He is PART of what we are missing
I thought Phillips was an athlete but he is Soph in HS physically need weight and strength
All will hinge on getting the freshmen PT next year early. Damn the wins and losses
Dilione PG
Mashack, Edwards Jefferson and Carr 2 and 3 guards. Vescovi if he stays
Estrella and Cade Phillips 4
Awaka and Aidoo 5
Ziegler PG when and if hes ready
The others need the Ray Charles treatment
We deserately missed Zeiglar last night but our major problem was misssing about 2 dozen point blank shots.
"Wait till next year!!!!"
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Teams take on the personality of their coach.
I have nothing but admiration and respect for Barnes.
But his is a defense-first, disciplined, "do it right" style. That mentality seems to affect the offensive effectiveness. Sometimes, we look really good -- but ugh. Those droughts.
It seems like a free-wheeling style is more effective in post season. Stay loose. Have fun.
At the half last night, FAU had 9 turnovers. 3 of 14 from 3. And were down 5.
We failed to score a point for the last almost four minutes.
Not good.
I turned the game off with about 11 minutes left. And us up a bucket or two. I just got tired of us missing shot after shot. It was obvious where this thing was going. And I decided to spare myself the frustration of witnessing it.
Here's the deal:
What I ask of UT basketball is to provide a diversion during the dark, cold winter months. This, they have done in spectacular style under Barnes. Great seasons, high rankings, big wins, exciting play. Twice a week.
The post season is HIGHLY overrated.
The SEC tourney is a dog and pony show. Unless you need quality wins to make the dance, it's just an opportunity for injury against teams you've already played once or twice. Who remembers the SECT champ? Did us winning last year make any difference after the Michigan game?
The Dance lasts... what? Three weeks? 6 games, if you make it to the finals?
Two days ago, the low was 30 degrees here.
Yesterday, the high was 80. Sunset after 7:30, not dark till after 8. Winter is over.
So is basketball. So be it.
Thanks, men, for another successful, entertaining season. Sweet 16 -- pretty damn good. I've seen sweeps of seasons go by when we WISHED we could get to the Sweet 16. Or even the Dance, at all. Even the NIT.
Now, losing in the Sweet 16 is a disappointment. A failure.
But, I'm afraid that's our ceiling with Barnes. His style of COACHING, if not play, just doesn't seem to work those last weeks of post season.
Screw it.
You have a fine season, which lasts months --
it's ruined by one bad game. If ONE GUY out of 10 or 11 gets hot last night -- if our bigs could make half of their point blank shots --
we win.
The post season is HIGHLY overrated.
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Teams take on the personality of their coach.
I have nothing but admiration and respect for Barnes.
But his is a defense-first, disciplined, "do it right" style. That mentality seems to affect the offensive effectiveness. Sometimes, we look really good -- but ugh. Those droughts.
It seems like a free-wheeling style is more effective in post season. Stay loose. Have fun.
At the half last night, FAU had 9 turnovers. 3 of 14 from 3. And were down 5.
We failed to score a point for the last almost four minutes.
Not good.
I turned the game off with about 11 minutes left. And us up a bucket or two. I just got tired of us missing shot after shot. It was obvious where this thing was going. And I decided to spare myself the frustration of witnessing it.
Here's the deal:
What I ask of UT basketball is to provide a diversion during the dark, cold winter months. This, they have done in spectacular style under Barnes. Great seasons, high rankings, big wins, exciting play. Twice a week.
The post season is HIGHLY overrated.
The SEC tourney is a dog and pony show. Unless you need quality wins to make the dance, it's just an opportunity for injury against teams you've already played once or twice. Who remembers the SECT champ? Did us winning last year make any difference after the Michigan game?
The Dance lasts... what? Three weeks? 6 games, if you make it to the finals?
Two days ago, the low was 30 degrees here.
Yesterday, the high was 80. Sunset after 7:30, not dark till after 8. Winter is over.
So is basketball. So be it.
Thanks, men, for another successful, entertaining season. Sweet 16 -- pretty damn good. I've seen sweeps of seasons go by when we WISHED we could get to the Sweet 16. Or even the Dance, at all. Even the NIT.
Now, losing in the Sweet 16 is a disappointment. A failure.
But, I'm afraid that's our ceiling with Barnes. His style of COACHING, if not play, just doesn't seem to work those last weeks of post season.
Screw it.
You have a fine season, which lasts months --
it's ruined by one bad game. If ONE GUY out of 10 or 11 gets hot last night -- if our bigs could make half of their point blank shots --
we win.
The post season is HIGHLY overrated.
Just like the rules to speed up baseball, I am not a fan of many changes to college and HS basketball, like the 30 sec. clock (let teams run different offenses to fit the players), the 3 pt. shot, etc. I am also not a fan of letting 3 sec. in the lane go, carrying the ball, the Euro step, letting walking go, etc.. The expanded field in the NCAA tourney, if you win the reg. season crown ok go, tourneys are for making money. The NIT was a nice consolation for those who came close to help build for next year.
College football was much better when bowl games counted and players did not sit out. The extra games for the playoffs is going to continue to reward a few schools and have unknown effects of teenagers bodies, etc.
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We didnt have the hosses this year.
I think I went over the roster. never seen a more passive 4th year 5 star than JJJ.
I commented last night the fade away with a hook shot is almost always a miss.
In looking back I think we had some walking wounded at the end of the season.
Vesc.'s should still seems to bother him, the constant pulling on it and No Fouls by many teams never let it heal properly. He seemed more reluctant to drive as he got hit and grabbed a lot when he did. Sort of like he was trying to remain serviceable
I think JJJ knee is still bothering him. He was missing wide a lot as of late which says he was not going up vertical. If tight you are generally short or overly excited long.
I think Phillips hip may still be bothering him some, either real or in his head, as he started shying away from contact a lot once he came back.
We missed Z's d last night as well as his outside shooting, ability to penetrate and dish and kept D's more hones that helped Vesc. get more open.
Uros lost his cool a couple times last night. We did not need that.
Edwards never fully developed this year when pressed he was not as reliable of a ball handler.
Awaka does not have the D footwork, yet, to guard the players he would have had to last night.
Oliver is a head case. He disappears to often. You never know when he will play lights out, even in spurts.
Barnes did a good job with what we had. When I saw FAU play the other night I felt like they would be a problem for us, unless we were hotter than a 4 balled tom cat. We weren't we missed to many crip shots and abandoned that part of our game when we needed it the most.