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Title: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 05:45:11 AM
I'm back from our 18 day cruise starting in Dubai and ending in Athens.  Some quick impressions:

1.  The UAE seems to have an unsustainable model, only 20% of the population is "locals".  The rest are "support staff", and not really delighted about it.
2.  Oman has universal mask mandates.
3.  My wife was a bit disappointed with Petra, it was about as I expected, there are a ton of "shops" in the remains and aggressive sellers.  That was a long day trip, over 13 hours.  Jordan has poor roads.
4.  Egypt is really a third world country with poor roads.  We did another 13 hour day trip to see Luxor and Valley of the Kings.  The main road has a large traffic hump every km, the bus would speed up, slow down, over and over.  You see every kind of conveyance on what often is a four lane "divided" highway.  Egypt has built several million person "new cities" from nothing (desert).  
5.  The ports in these countries are massive, even Oman.
6.  Israel has roads about like the US.  We did one trip to Jerusalem and another to Nazareth and the Sea of Gallilee. 
7.  The quality of the tour guides vary massively, and is important (duh).  The lady in Egypt went on and on about how great the government was.  One dude in Israel went on and on about how great socialism is and said things about Jesus that are "not Biblical" at all.  We had a very good one in Jerusalem fortunately.  
8.  Jerusalem, the Old City, to me, is a rat warren of Arab shops and narrow streets, and yes, we visited the Armenian and Christian quarters also.  I would not go back.  My wife is religious so it meant a lot to her.
9.  You see English "subtitles" nearly everywhere, and American fast food joints and Coke signs.  I was amused at how many Starbucks are in Athens.  There is a McD's in downtown Luxor, Egypt.  US "culture" is pervasive (movies and music etc.).
10.  We had a great tour of Cyrus due to the tour guide.  This island is divided by the Greeks and Turkey, not pleasantly so.
11.  Rhodes was on the stop, we did a tour, OK, fine.
12.  The drive from the port to our hotel in central Athens was pretty depressing, but the area around the hotel was fairly upscale, the Parliament building, embassies, parks, etc.  We walked to the Parthenon and paid a lady 80 Eu for a tour of the Acropolis.  We had some great food in Athens.  Athens has large mountains around it, probably 1,000 meters or so?
13.  We had a pretty large stateroom with balcony that helped a lot as we had four days at sea at one point in a row.  The food is good overall, the "upscale restaurants" were not really better than the free ones.  The Garden Cafe was quite solid.  The ship is nearly 94,000 tons, we would feel occasional "movement", 2402 passengers and 1200 crew.  It was very easy to find a spot with nobody else there.  There was a very nice "bourbon bar" on six.
14.  We had the "free beverage package", which isn't free of course.  We signed up for another tour and declined it, and took the upgraded club balcony suite instead.  We had three "free" meals at their upscale restaurants which were "OK", but nothing special.  One was "french" (not).
15.  We did not tire of the cruise really but are glad to be home.  The flight from Istanbul to ATL was tiring, but the flight from Toronto to Dubai was ... a killer, sort of, 12+ hours.
16.  Folks who say the US is a "third world country" need to get out more.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 06, 2023, 07:51:46 AM
Good or bad, did the trip meet expectations?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 08:07:39 AM
My wife said it exceeded hers by a fair margin.  I think net it met mine.  I enjoyed seeing the Suez Canal as much as anything, some of the other stops where kind of things you "have to see", like Petra (if you are in the area).  The long bus rides were rough as were the two long plane segments.  I think the only place I'd return would be Athens.  My wife says Cairo is a thing to see, but we didn't go there.

I enjoy meeting various people from here and there and learning more about different cultures, which all happened.  The passengers included a fair number of Asians though many live in the US.  We met Brits and Canadians and Aussies in good numbers.  I was told the average age was 65, which sounds right, we had a LOT of really older folks aboard, and some with walkers or in wheelchairs.  My wife got a bit annoyed in Jerusalem that one older guy kept asking the guide to slow down.  He really shouldn't have made that excursion, but I told my wife it probably was a dream of his.  And of course we had a goodly number of really fat people on board.  They often would stand in some choke point unaware of others.

I thought we might get bored with four consecutive days at sea but we didn't.  We saw zero shows, we were usually tired by 9 PM.  We heard various musicians playing in bars etc. at times, they really were not very good.  They usually had some playing by the pools.  I got in a hot tub once by myself after going to the gym a bit.  We waded in the Red Sea, it's not red, but it was cold.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 06, 2023, 08:23:04 AM
I imagine the 4 sea days were between Oman and Jordan?

No stop in Yemen or Saudi?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 08:28:09 AM
Yes, no stops in those other places for obvious reasons.  The Captain made an announcement we were entering pirate infested waters around Yemen but claimed things were under control.  A radar repeater in the bridge viewing room showed a French frigate about 30 nm away from us.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 06, 2023, 08:44:26 AM
I enjoy your written impressions here probably as much as I'd enjoy the trip.
much less time and $$$

now you can die a happy man and so can I
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 06, 2023, 08:53:53 AM
I've never heard of Petras, what's that?
I'd look forward to the canal bit, too.
I've never considered the temperature of the Red Sea.  Good to know.
Who says the US is a 3rd-world country?  Maybe the tent cities of homeless people, but more than that?  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 06, 2023, 09:02:27 AM
It's not a trip I would take, to be honest, but it's still fun to read about it here.

A dream cruise for me would be to start in South Korea, then Taiwan, and then hit Japan intensively.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 06, 2023, 09:21:53 AM
I'd rather cruise from Anchorage to Acapulco thru the Panama canal and then from Belize to Nova Scotia

Many stops along the way

maybe July to July
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 09:29:52 AM
I've never heard of Petras, what's that?

"Petra", I thought it was pretty famous for various reasons, including a movie about Indy Jones.

This is the most famous image of the place, called "The Treasury" (which it never was):


(https://i.imgur.com/Iyy5faX.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 09:31:27 AM
This is the "Siq", or narrow canyon entrance to the city, quite interesting I thought:

(https://i.imgur.com/1vE1zOr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1mJPr0o.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 09:32:15 AM
We stopped here for an altitude view of where Petra claims to be, somewhere down in the canyons:

(https://i.imgur.com/425ewSZ.jpg)

This is southern Jordan, and yes, it's desert.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 09:33:50 AM
This is the main port in Oman, Salalah, part of it anyway.

(https://i.imgur.com/WRxim50.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 09:36:17 AM
This is Dubai, taken from our hotel, the spine thingee is the tallest building in the world.  We had two days here in a hotel to recover some from the time zone shift of ten hours.  Dubai and Abu Dhabi are very modern cities for obvious reasons, very clean and well maintained and safe.

(https://i.imgur.com/PLkEq1e.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZZlfXSn.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 09:37:57 AM
This is the Jordan River, where Jesus is claimed to have been baptized, it of course had a large gift shop:

(https://i.imgur.com/beb2ve5.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 09:39:14 AM
We had lunch on Cyprus at a small place with fresh bread, it was all very nice:
(https://i.imgur.com/FU1Jxd5.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 09:41:31 AM
These are all from my phone, I have a zillion more still in my main camera.  My wife has a new iPhone 14 that takes incredible photos, I'm thinking of ditching the Nikon.  This is the Acropolis (which means edge of the city apparently):



(https://i.imgur.com/mVf19yh.jpg)
A view of Athens from on top:

(https://i.imgur.com/iSeID1L.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 09:49:52 AM
My wife often laughs (?) at how often I drag her to a military museum, and Athens was no different.  She was obliging, and the museum is quite well done I thought, and "free".

(https://i.imgur.com/bhbMNIv.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 06, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I'd rather cruise from Anchorage to Acapulco thru the Panama canal and then from Belize to Nova Scotia

Many stops along the way

maybe July to July
Azamara World Cruise 2025 | Azamara (https://www.azamara.com/2025WorldVoyage)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: longhorn320 on March 06, 2023, 10:18:30 AM
New Zealand would be my destination
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:26:00 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9tKrCyi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AmaWf9N.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:29:02 AM
We're looking at a cruise out of Tokyo that includes South Korea.  Our idea is to spot check cities you probably wouldn't see otherwise and think whether you might return for a longer visit later.  We signed up for a cruise in October that is Scotland/Ireland/England in October.

NCL offers air fare for two for only $1,100 (for both), but it's in the back.  My wife got exit row seats coming back from Istanbul which helped a lot.  And in other news, we're Gold now not that it means much, about to be Platinum.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:34:09 AM
Mosque in Abu Dhabi:
(https://i.imgur.com/6n9Dnrm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Mk1f81C.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:35:07 AM


(https://i.imgur.com/lkvn0f9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3iYtTEb.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:39:18 AM
More of Petra which some idea of the crowds and the stalls of folks selling trinkets.


(https://i.imgur.com/eCUD1OX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IGvUYQs.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:40:18 AM
This is the entrance to the Siq:

(https://i.imgur.com/Y6h1zDp.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/BI0wLhO.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:43:11 AM
Downtown Luxor, near the temple:

(https://i.imgur.com/M2js9p0.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:43:54 AM
The Nile, where we had a very elegant lunch:

(https://i.imgur.com/sVFJAld.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3nxv0Fe.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:44:48 AM
Valley of the Kings tombs:



(https://i.imgur.com/rLkNPYN.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/IDpbwPf.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:45:23 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:46:06 AM
The area of Valley of the Kings:

(https://i.imgur.com/y5X3KoF.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:46:26 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/BJTcpGu.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 06, 2023, 10:49:16 AM
We're looking at a cruise out of Tokyo that includes South Korea.  Our idea is to spot check cities you probably wouldn't see otherwise and think whether you might return for a longer visit later.  
how many of these "spot checked" cities have you been back to for a longer visit?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:51:16 AM
how many of these "spot checked" cities have you been back to for a longer visit?
Barcelona is one, Rome is on our list to spend some time, maybe Sorrento and the Amalfi coast, we have not done that many cruises (yet).

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:52:18 AM


(https://i.imgur.com/69PXUZd.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/DfwRgYI.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:53:23 AM
This is a bridge that pivots to cross the Suez Canal, they had maybe ten of them.
(https://i.imgur.com/6CVrLqE.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/stH2rWu.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 06, 2023, 10:53:53 AM
how many of these "spot checked" cities have you been back to for a longer visit?
For us... Amsterdam, Barcelona and Florence - so far.

In the future, we would like to spend more time in Kotor, Trieste and Sicily.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:54:21 AM
These were RR bridges that pivot on a central point to cross the canal, not yet quite completed.  There are parallel canals at that point.

(https://i.imgur.com/4M8O8vb.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:55:31 AM
Automobile bridge across Canal joining Asia and Africa.
(https://i.imgur.com/9EPN48y.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/NhAoq4K.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 06, 2023, 10:56:36 AM
Barcelona is one, Rome is on our list to spend some time, maybe Sorrento and the Amalfi coast, we have not done that many cruises (yet).


Sorrento was OK. We didn't find the Amalfi to be all that. Nice, sure. Worthy of a trip? Not for us.

Been there, done that with Rome. No need to return, other than maybe to fly to.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:58:13 AM
Jerusalem:

(https://i.imgur.com/O4eWhc0.jpg)





(https://i.imgur.com/XbtAdhq.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 10:59:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/7jA4doU.jpg)
I saw nary a whale.
(https://i.imgur.com/fdfQCbg.jpg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 11:02:56 AM
Haifa, Bahai Temple:


(https://i.imgur.com/TfGHhJf.jpg)

You can see our ship here, the larger one.
(https://i.imgur.com/cpKzDjl.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 11:03:37 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/ee58LK4.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/XOvZW8M.jpg)

Bahai Temple.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 11:09:57 AM
A very weird thing in Istanbul airport, we flew there from Athens, Greece to change planes.  So, we get to our gate to ATL, and the seating area is inside a glassed in room.  And we had to pass FIVE security checks to enter said room.  Five.  The first four checked our documents, same thing each time, the last one opened our carry ons, wanded us, hand searched our bodies, I had to take my head phones from around my neck and the lens off my camera.  My Turkish friend tells me this is quasi-normal and very silly.  We had already passed security in Athens of course.

I know the gate agents check passports obviously, fine, but four times?  How they loaded the plane was weird as well and it was a 787-900.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 06, 2023, 11:20:40 AM
It's not a trip I would take, to be honest, but it's still fun to read about it here.

A dream cruise for me would be to start in South Korea, then Taiwan, and then hit Japan intensively.
I highly recommend Taiwan. Over the years I've spent the equivalent of about 4 weeks in Taipei and it's one of my favorite places. It's a bit of a melting pot of cultures and it just adds to the richness of the place. And the food is amazing

I definitely want to make a trip to Japan as well... 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: boilerbanger on March 06, 2023, 12:45:26 PM
awesome stuff here, thanks for posting.  Not sure if you have hit Normandy yet, but that is a must.  Barcelona is one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 12:52:24 PM
This is what most of the Old City of Jerusalem looked like to me:

(https://i.imgur.com/JagPcon.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2023, 12:55:48 PM
Not sure if you have hit Normandy yet, but that is a must.  Barcelona is one of my favorites.
I agree, I've been several times including the Utah Beach area.  Bayeux was a great visit.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on March 06, 2023, 01:23:49 PM
I highly recommend Taiwan. Over the years I've spent the equivalent of about 4 weeks in Taipei and it's one of my favorite places. It's a bit of a melting pot of cultures and it just adds to the richness of the place. And the food is amazing.
Sans the green stinky tofu,I mean if Andrew Zimmern almost hurls it must be the Devil's treat
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on March 06, 2023, 01:27:13 PM
CD it looked like Pauly Shore joined you there in Jerusalem
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 06, 2023, 02:02:01 PM
Sans the green stinky tofu,I mean if Andrew Zimmern almost hurls it must be the Devil's treat
The first time I went, we did go to a night market. I didn't try the stinky tofu, but I did try the oyster omelet. One bite, nearly hurled, threw it away. 

On return trips I never had a group that wanted to check out the night market, so didn't get the stinky tofu. 

If anyone wants to do some cooking, give this a shot though. https://thewoksoflife.com/taiwanese-beef-noodle-soup-instant-pot/
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 08, 2023, 01:40:35 PM
So, upon reflection, would I like to return anywhere I visited?  Perhaps Athens, though probably not enough to do it.  My wife tells me there is much more to see in Egypt, OK, but I don't care to revisit what we did see.  I'm not too keen on Egypt in general really.  Petra?  No, though I would like to have had the time to see more of it when we were there.  Dubai?  No.  Istanbul?  Yes, but this is because I only was in the airport and saw a bit out the plane windows.

Next up is a cruise around England, mostly stopping in Scotland and Ireland, it seemed like a convenient way to spot check those areas.  I am looking at something in Asia fairly seriously for 2024, and there is one out of Buenos Aires that looks neat.  Our neighbor wants to go to South Africa, not for a cruise, and my best friend in Cincy was born there and would go with us.  We met some folks who boarded  the cruise 16 days earlier in Capetown, plus the 18 days we spent aboard.  Yikes.  Our cruise alone cost over $28 K, we did have a nice cabin.  And I spent a good bit on excursions (and some jewelry ...).

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 08, 2023, 02:07:38 PM
Sounds like a great down-payment on a Porche.

Use it to drive around the USA spot checking places
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 08, 2023, 02:17:05 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 08, 2023, 02:27:28 PM
Sounds like a great down-payment on a Porche.

Use it to drive around the USA spot checking places
What's a Porche?

I'd rather have this.


(https://i.imgur.com/CefuoeG.jpg)
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Post by: FearlessF on March 08, 2023, 02:35:36 PM
Sorry, spelling on my phone is tougher than the laptop.   Autocorrect
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Post by: FearlessF on March 08, 2023, 02:36:22 PM
Who's the U-boat commander?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 09, 2023, 04:22:51 AM
I once thought about the cost of "things", like say a new phone, in terms of wine I could buy.  Perhaps now I should think about how much of a Porsche I could buy.

It's an inflation proof metric.  

My wife upgraded to an iPhone 14 Pro recently and the photos she can take are amazing.  Meanwhile, I lug about my Nikon DLSR with a slew of lenses that weigh a ton.  (Actually, on this trip I took my smallest lens only.)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on March 09, 2023, 01:00:04 PM
Places I've been to that I would go to again:

Kotor - Spectacular views on the cruise into the port. Unfortunately, we only got to spend three hours there because of a snafu with the boarding gangway as we were leaving Venice which required several hours to fix. 
Lisbon - Spent two days there and could spend several more. It feels like a comfortable mid-size city. I never felt crowded or pressured. Many great things to see and do within easy driving distance. 
Saint Lucia - The most beautiful island I've ever been to.
Belize - Did a cave tubing excursion here with this guy (https://www.facebook.com/charliescavetubingtours). He makes sure you beat the "cattle call" tour groups and makes it a personalized experience for you. He took us to an out-of-the-way family restaurant that made burritos that my kids still talk about to this day. I'd go back just for his tour. 
Venice - I could go back to Venice and just sit on a hotel balcony and watch the city live. It may have just been the time of year that we went (late March) but it wasn't crowded and it felt very "authentic". 
Paris - Was there for three days and there's just so much more that I want to see. Montmartre is gorgeous. 
Santorini - I wouldn't mind relaxing for a couple of days in one of the cliffside Oia hotels with a pool that has a great view.

Places I've been to that I could do without:

Rome - It was great to see once but I could do without it. 
Mykonos - Tourist trap. Nothing special
Barbados - Flat, boring. Probably didn't help that it rained and I got a little seasick on the catamaran tour. 
Puerto Rico - I think their primary import is spray paint. 


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 09, 2023, 01:03:19 PM
When were you in Venice?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on March 09, 2023, 01:24:41 PM
Late March 2022. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 09, 2023, 01:37:36 PM
My wife REALLY likes Hawaii, the Big Island in particular.  She wants to go back in December, again, with the entire family or whoever can make it.  I enjoy it fine, but I'd rather go somewhere new in the main.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 18, 2023, 02:19:49 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 21, 2023, 02:37:45 PM
Gibb’s Gardens

(https://i.imgur.com/gccncIz.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 21, 2023, 02:38:25 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 21, 2023, 02:40:00 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: longhorn320 on March 21, 2023, 03:16:29 PM
I wondered where he was spending his time now that hes no longer on NCIS
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2023, 09:20:15 AM






This was our lunch view a few days back from the Lodge at Amicaloa State Park.  The Appy Trail starts near here.(https://i.imgur.com/0d9fRTK.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2023, 09:21:06 AM
Gibb's Gardens ...

(https://i.imgur.com/hWL3Pa9.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2023, 09:21:30 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2023, 09:21:54 AM
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Post by: FearlessF on March 24, 2023, 11:21:15 AM
https://youtu.be/XMISZC7oBDU

Sumela Monastery is a Greek Orthodox monastery dedicated to the Theotokos located at Karadağ (Greek: Sou Melá, meaning "Black Mountain") within the Pontic Mountains, in the Maçka district of Trabzon Province in modern Turkey.

Nestled in a steep cliff at an altitude of about 1,200 metres (3,900 ft) facing the Altındere valley, it is a site of great historical and cultural significance, as well as a major tourist attraction within Altındere National Park. Due to an increase in rock falls, on 22 September 2015 the monastery was closed to the public for safety reasons for the duration of one year to resolve the problem; this was later extended to three years. It reopened to tourists 25 May 2019. The monastery is one of the most important historic and touristic venues in Trabzon.


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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2023, 11:07:17 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0kuqkKf.png)

OK, I did not take this photo, but it's close to showing our journey (Dubai where we started would be out of frame lower right).  I was surprised how wide the area of the Nile is with agriculture even pretty far upstream where we took the bus ride.  We had ported in Safaga, Egypt a bit south of the Gulf of Suez and the bus went west across some mountains and then agricultural plains with the city of Qena and New Qena and then Luxor.  Now I realize that the area isn't that wide, Qena is on the Nile and is Luxor, we were riding up the Nile (south) instead of going further west.  Huh.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2023, 02:06:17 PM
probably happy you got out of jerusalem on time
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2023, 02:51:23 PM
I was happy my wife got out of that church before our group left.  We were late getting back from Petra.  And we did not have our passports.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2023, 02:54:49 PM
I was referring to the peaceful protests a week or so ago
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2023, 02:56:31 PM
Oh yeah, got it, glad not to be in Paris now also.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2023, 03:00:03 PM
It costs $1519 on Delta to fly to Marseille.  It costs $1,703 to get to Paris, same airline.

To get to Marseille, you fly through Paris.

It costs $1.,695 to fly to Nice nonstop from here, also on Delta.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2023, 07:40:56 PM
Rich man's hobby 

Especially if you're also buying the wife's seat
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 31, 2023, 07:01:54 AM
I like to say comfortable.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 31, 2023, 07:27:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/2IkDzZF.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 31, 2023, 07:30:00 AM
Years back, I drove across the Sierra north of Yosemite through Sonora Pass on a road that had 26% grades.

The unforgettable road to Sonora Pass in California (dangerousroads.org) (https://www.dangerousroads.org/north-america/usa/3951-sonora-pass.html)

It wasn't dangerous, but I recall not being able to see the road at times as the car crested a rise, I had to pull myself up on the steering wheel to look over the hood.  In places, it was just pavement over a rock surface with no grading effort at all.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 31, 2023, 07:57:41 AM
A few places I've see that we really really liked:

Copenhagen
Sancerre (FR)
Zion NP

Lyon (FR)
Chamonix (FR)
Bayuex (FR)

Vancouver, BC (daughter lives there)
Mauna Kea (the summit is crazy)
Volcano NP

I've yet to see Asia, the Orient part, though I've been on five continents now, technically.

Places I don't like include Pigeon Forge, TN and Myrtle Beach, SC and I'd add New Orleans, which is not the opinion of many here.  I really don't want to go back ever.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 03, 2023, 03:12:01 PM
My semi-crazy neighbor is off to Ethiopia, he's probably there by now.  There was a last minute opening in a tour of the back country and he took all his camera gear.  Next month he's going to Bolivia.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 03, 2023, 03:17:42 PM
in a few weeks you're gonna get a semi-crazy slide show of Ethiopia
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 03, 2023, 03:22:22 PM
He just posts them in Instagram, he has some remarkable photos.

Turgay Uzer (@upgrademeforfree) • Instagram photos and videos (https://www.instagram.com/upgrademeforfree/)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmogwpuHeyE/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 03, 2023, 03:23:20 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CqYAdUuOFnU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 03, 2023, 03:33:30 PM
I shot this from our plane heading into Kona ...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXSnXDlAnQ2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 04, 2023, 09:01:53 AM
Found this on line:

(https://i.imgur.com/QkBAF5h.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 04, 2023, 09:05:57 AM
https://www.tasteatlas.com/best-rated-hot-dogs-in-the-world?fbclid=IwAR0Z-0VogvM_p1AZrsS1pUg4dlT-2JA2suGf5is13f0xOIOXBLNVixoOALc (https://www.tasteatlas.com/best-rated-hot-dogs-in-the-world?fbclid=IwAR0Z-0VogvM_p1AZrsS1pUg4dlT-2JA2suGf5is13f0xOIOXBLNVixoOALc)

There's a list
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 04, 2023, 09:52:36 AM
Gimme the Maxwell Street all day long. Follow that up with the Depression Dog.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 04, 2023, 10:11:00 AM
No straight up chili cheese dog?  List is worthless.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 04, 2023, 10:22:54 AM
I'll have one of each

no beans on my chili cheese dog
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 04, 2023, 10:59:34 AM
I rarely eat hot dogs, but I like'em with sauerkraut and mustard, or cole slaw.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 04, 2023, 11:09:35 AM
I visited Sedona quite recently for first time since 90s and it seems outmatched for the volume of people , myself included that flock to it.

Some of the best hiking and exploring around outside of Sedona and surrounding area but makes you wonder if there's a down time.  I realize this is near peak.

Having said that,  pink jeep tours are still winners and family faves.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 04, 2023, 11:35:30 AM
I've heard they have golf courses around Sedona

never been there
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 04, 2023, 12:08:49 PM
I visited Sedona quite recently for first time since 90s and it seems outmatched for the volume of people , myself included that flock to it.

Some of the best hiking and exploring around outside of Sedona and surrounding area but makes you wonder if there's a down time.  I realize this is near peak.

Having said that,  pink jeep tours are still winners and family faves.
That area has been overrun for two decades. The secret got out. 

We were there recently. This place is still the best food in town.


Dahl & Di Luca Ristorante Italiano | Sedona, Arizona (dahlanddiluca.com) (https://www.dahlanddiluca.com/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 04, 2023, 06:09:21 PM
I've heard they have golf courses around Sedona

never been there
Golf in Sedona last year.  Highest Hole topped out at 4,200ft. Being an old out of shape man, I tired out pretty quickly.  Lots of multi levels and beautiful views.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 04, 2023, 06:16:03 PM
I've been invited on a trip with a bunch of retired railroad guys, but I wasn't retired and haven't made it

they seem to enjoy it

they send the wives shopping
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 04, 2023, 06:22:14 PM
I've been invited on a trip with a bunch of retired railroad guys, but I wasn't retired and haven't made it

they seem to enjoy it

they send the wives shopping
Group trips aren't my thing because I don't like people. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 04, 2023, 08:01:43 PM
Group trips aren't my thing because I don't like people.
Amen brutha.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2023, 07:10:29 AM
I've had some great group trips/visits, and some not.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 05, 2023, 07:41:16 AM
Just did a Bahamas cruise over Spring Break. I drove down to Port Canaveral and did the cruise by myself. First time I've done that. It was exactly what I needed. I'm looking at doing another cruise this summer. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2023, 08:28:02 AM
Which cruise line was it?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 05, 2023, 08:46:17 AM
Which cruise line was it?
MSC
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2023, 08:55:06 AM
World’s top 10 busiest airports for passenger traffic in 2022
1. Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta, Georgia (ATL): 93.7 million passengers; up 23.8% from 2021
2. Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas (DFW): 73.4 million passengers; up 17.5% from 2021
3. Denver, Colorado (DEN): 69.3 million passengers; up 17.8% from 2021
4. Chicago O’Hare, Illinois (ORD): 68.3 million passengers; up 26.5% from 2021
5. Dubai, United Arab Emirates (DXB): 66.1 million passengers; up 127% from 2021
6. Los Angeles, California (LAX): 65.9 million passengers; up 37.3% from 2021
7. Istanbul, Turkey (IST): 64.3 million passengers; up 73.8% from 2021
8. London Heathrow, United Kingdom (LHR): 61.6 million passengers; up 217.7% from 2021
9. Delhi, India (DEL): 59.5 million passengers; up 60.2% from 2021
10. Paris Charles de Gaulle, France (CDG): 57.5 million passengers; up 119.4% from 2021


They said ATL is still down 15% from 2019, which is tough to believe considering how busy it seems each time we fly.  I had not known Dubai was so large.  Istanbul does seem large, but not very busy when we were there.  I've been to every airport on the list except Delhi.

World's busiest airports in 2022: Half are in the United States | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/worlds-busiest-airports-2022-aci/index.html)

The two worst airports I've been through are de Gaulle and Toronto.  I've done the latter twice and it's horrible.  I'vedone CDG maybe 40 times and it's mostly horrible.  The new departure area is fine.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 05, 2023, 09:09:15 AM
I simply avoid all airports
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 05, 2023, 10:13:39 AM
Istanbul is large and it definitely didn't feel full. The security checks there are the most intimidating and thorough that I've ever experienced. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2023, 10:52:31 AM
Istanbul is large and it definitely didn't feel full. The security checks there are the most intimidating and thorough that I've ever experienced.
Yes, they were ridiculous, and we were changing planes.  We went through four checks where they asked the same questions and then a fifth where we were searched/wanded.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2023, 01:17:32 PM
Turkey is surely not on our list for travel. Same goes for Russia, the Middle East and China.

Still need to see more places in Europe, and also Japan, Korea, etc.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 05, 2023, 01:30:37 PM
Why did Constantinople get the works?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 05, 2023, 01:35:34 PM
I need to visit Florida with a couple sides of beef, perhaps passing through Atlanta on the way
South Carolina is on my list, as well as Cincy & Columbus, OH
Louisiana, Arkansas
I've heard Nashville and Memphis are nice
New Mexico, northern Arizona, Nevada, Utah, even Cali

Boston - New Hampshire - Maine
Maybe Niagara/Buffalo

I have a passport but there's plenty of places to visit that an airport or a passport aren't required 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 05, 2023, 01:38:18 PM
Why did Constantinople get the works?

It's none of your business. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 05, 2023, 01:40:12 PM
It's none of your business.
What would be your position then, if I were to inform you, that I am in fact a Turk?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2023, 01:43:09 PM
What would be your position then, if I were to inform you, that I am in fact a Turk?
My position would be to advise you to not go for a visit. Not that you asked...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 05, 2023, 01:52:51 PM
What would be your position then, if I were to inform you, that I am in fact a Turk?
Then I concede, it may indeed be your business. But nobody elses that are not Turks. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 05, 2023, 02:09:25 PM
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XLjT2tWpOBA/WSOwUJKvOQI/AAAAAAAACA0/ide7EtIFC6o4s6Yz46HLNZdjg2E6bml6ACLcB/s1600/newbomb%2Bturk.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2023, 04:56:35 PM
My nieghbor is an old Turk, he's nearly 70, grew up in Ankara.  PhD from Harvard and postdoc at Oxford, professor of physics at GaTech for 32 years.  He's currently in Ethiopia.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2023, 06:13:38 AM
My nieghbor is an old Turk, he's nearly 70, grew up in Ankara.  PhD from Harvard and postdoc at Oxford, professor of physics at GaTech for 32 years.  He's currently in Ethiopia.
Another place not on my list.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2023, 06:47:14 AM
He goes often on safaris to photo wildlife in exotic locations, which is why he's there.  He's been all over darkest Africa.

He has to take a lot of antimalarial pills and Pepto Bismol etc.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2023, 06:50:39 AM
I have a friend - a Catholic priest from Uganda. Other friends have visited there. 

They tell me Florida has no bugs compared to Uganda.

Not a snowball's chance in Hell I visit there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: jgvol on April 06, 2023, 11:36:37 AM
I need to visit Florida with a couple sides of beef, perhaps passing through Atlanta on the way
South Carolina is on my list, as well as Cincy & Columbus, OH
Louisiana, Arkansas
I've heard Nashville and Memphis are nice
New Mexico, northern Arizona, Nevada, Utah, even Cali

Boston - New Hampshire - Maine
Maybe Niagara/Buffalo

I have a passport but there's plenty of places to visit that an airport or a passport aren't required

Somebody lied to you.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2023, 11:41:52 AM
Memphis used to be nice.


I still order the sauce and rub from Rendezvous.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2023, 11:50:31 AM
The major US cities I would revisit make a pretty short list, Boston is one.  In summer.  Miami?  Not really.  SanDiego because of family.  SF same reason.  I don't mind SF like some do, I expect they don't like it because of what they see in the "news".  Nashville is OK.  My wife likes the GOO a lot.  Been once.

A very nice downtown is Greenville, SC, not a large city of course, but they did a great job there with a dying town.

My last visit to Asheville was VERY concerning.  We went downtown and it was a mess.

Savannah is fine, not in summer.  Orlando, yuck.  My wife likes NYC.  I go to Washington, DC some because I have family near there too.

I don't know of a reason to go to Cincinnati other than friends, there are a few things to see but I've seen'em.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2023, 01:21:07 PM
Large cities? Not too many on my list that I've not been to.

There are no cities on the Pacific that I will return to, unless you count Honolulu. 

In the NE, I'd go to Boston again, and Providence.

In the MW, I have to go to Chicago (area) and Milwaukee (area) for family and work. Not gonna be hanging out downtown in either place.

Mid-Atlantic, I'd return to Virginia Beach, Charlotte and RD.

South, most cities except Memphis and Louisville.

Need to get to

Charleston, SC
Savannah, GA
Maine


What's Philly like? I've never been. Also never been to DC. What's that like?

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2023, 01:33:53 PM
Philly has a few spots of interest, on the whole, I don't care to visit again.  I find DC quite interesting, and much of the city is "nice", a lot of parks and green spaces.  I was there two years ago with my daughter during the cherry tree thing which was interesting.  We walked a lot.

I've been to Minneapolis, Minnesota once during July, it seemed fine, that was 1984ish.  

I was trying to think of the largest city in the US I've never visited.  It might be something like Augusta, Maine.  Some I just drove through, like Green Bay.

We drove my Turkish friend to the airport two days back and the traffic coming back was horrible, on a Sunday.  Something was amiss, I tried to go around and it was horrible too.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2023, 01:40:47 PM
We drove my Turkish friend to the airport two days back and the traffic coming back was horrible, on a Sunday.  Something was amiss, I tried to go around and it was horrible too.
Snowbirds are killing I-75 and I-95 now. I've noticed traffic is better around here lately.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 06, 2023, 01:53:20 PM
Traffic going north out of Knoxville was horrific last weekend. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2023, 01:58:33 PM
I-75/85 southbound was normal, but northbound was stopped, 7 lanes just stopped.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2023, 02:00:06 PM
People heading back to Ohio and Michigan.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 06, 2023, 02:02:21 PM
traffic is one of the reasons I avoid large cities
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2023, 02:10:05 PM
traffic is one of the reasons I avoid large cities
This is the time of year to come here. Yeah, it's a little toasty.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on April 07, 2023, 03:14:13 PM
I-75/85 southbound was normal, but northbound was stopped, 7 lanes just stopped.


In Atl? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 07, 2023, 03:45:59 PM
Yeah, going south to the airport, this is the only place where I-75 and I-85 run together.  Southbound traffic was "normal" for a Sunday, northbound was stopped for several miles, I later saw there was a bad accident.  So, coming back I came around the Perimeter to I-20, and the Perimeter was clogged but moving slow.  Then I got off in south downtown and that was clogged.  South downtown is not a very nice place these days.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 10, 2023, 12:50:18 PM
Heading to San Diego (in German: A Whale's Vagina) for a conference on Sunday. Any must-eat places? I prefer the ones right on the water if possible. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 10, 2023, 01:25:03 PM
I didn't venture far from the Hyatt in February...

The food wasn't outstanding, the beer was very good, it is on the water

https://www.mikehessbrewing.com/mike-hess-brewing-seaport-village/ (https://www.mikehessbrewing.com/mike-hess-brewing-seaport-village/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 10, 2023, 01:39:15 PM
Heading to San Diego (in German: A Whale's Vagina) for a conference on Sunday. Any must-eat places? I prefer the ones right on the water if possible.
Are you going to have a car? Will you just be downtown? 

What sort of cuisine are you looking for? High end? Casual? Both?

Obviously you should be looking for Mexican food while you're here. Fish tacos of course, carne asade burritos without a doubt, but also everything else. You tend to get a lot more Baja Mexican than the traditional Tex-Mex that is common throughout the rest of the country. El Indio is one of the most famous places. If you're near Old Town, I've personally been to Cafe Coyote, and it is excellent

San Diego also has the Little Italy neighborhood, where you'll find any number of amazing Italian joints. 

I'd say if you're looking for Asian cuisine as well, you'll get better (and more authentic) stuff here than in the Midwest. However I don't know if San Diego (especially downtown) is as well known as certain areas of Orange County or Los Angeles for that fare. But I'm sure you can find good Chinese, Japanese, or Thai without going much distance from your hotel. 

And of course seafood. Sushi would be good if you're into that. (And if you like sushi and Mexican food, there's always sushi burrito.)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 10, 2023, 02:06:19 PM
My friends from San Diego were here about a month ago.

They no longer go into town at night due to safety concerns, FWIW. Be careful, I guess. It was really safe when I was last out there 5 years ago or so.

I agree about the seafood. It's the same deal if you were to visit here. You eat seafood.

Disagree about the Asian vs. that available in the Midwest though. Of course, I'm only referencing Chicago when I say that. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 10, 2023, 02:45:20 PM

Disagree about the Asian vs. that available in the Midwest though. Of course, I'm only referencing Chicago when I say that.

I get that. Especially if you're specifically referring to Chicago's Chinatown. But in general Chicago will have the population to support good authentic ethnic cuisine of nearly every type. It wouldn't surprise me if (outside of Chinatown) you really need to search carefully for the legit joints.  

The same is true here of course. Finding really excellent Chinese food in/around Mission Viejo is hard. Drive 10 miles north to Irvine, and it's easy. Finding decent Thai or pho here is not hard, but if you really want authentic South Asian cuisine, you go 10 mi further north to Westminster / Garden Grove. Those areas are far more dense enclaves of those particular nationalities, and thus the food reflects it. 

The West Coast has a much higher population density of Asian descent than most places eastward. So you'll get more variety of authentic options in LA/OC, SF Bay Area, Seattle, or Vancouver than you'll get in most cities east of the Rockies, with places like Chicago and NY as notable exceptions. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 10, 2023, 02:57:20 PM
Over all of my years up there I managed to find the spots, outside of Chinatown even.

I'm working on that here. I found the Pho spot but still working on the Chinese, Thai, etc.

Not a whole lot of Asians down here.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 10, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
Asian food we have aplenty around here in walking distance, all of it good, to me anyway.  My step son's GF from HK pronounced one of the places as outstanding, better than they had in SF, but she was being nice I supposed.  We had lunch yesterday at one of the Persian places and it was massively disappointing, was fifth time there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 10, 2023, 03:21:56 PM
disappointing 5 times?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 10, 2023, 03:23:31 PM
Sushi burrito. That has me written all over it.

We'll be in the Gaslamp Quarter right across from the baseball field. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 10, 2023, 03:25:38 PM
disappointing 5 times?
No, it was great the first four times, so my wife suggested we go back.  Maybe they were slammed with Easter.  

Maybe I ordered the wrong thing, but service was SLOW.  Tables next to us who showed up later got served before we did by 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 10, 2023, 03:29:16 PM
Sushi burrito. That has me written all over it.

We'll be in the Gaslamp Quarter right across from the baseball field.
I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on what that area looks like right now. It was my favorite place to go in San Diego.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 10, 2023, 03:49:14 PM
Mercedes owners....

(https://i.imgur.com/VGfrA2u.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 10, 2023, 03:49:58 PM
Ole Miss grads
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 10, 2023, 04:06:54 PM
I did that one time. It was when I had the Volvo.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 10, 2023, 04:22:06 PM
Asian food we have aplenty around here in walking distance, all of it good, to me anyway.  My step son's GF from HK pronounced one of the places as outstanding, better than they had in SF, but she was being nice I supposed.  We had lunch yesterday at one of the Persian places and it was massively disappointing, was fifth time there.
Yeah, I know in downtown ATL there are better offerings. When I lived in Marietta, tho, there wasn't even any good Mexican food, much less Chinese, much less other less ubiquitous Asian cuisines. 

Found some good Mexican eventually, but had to drive all the way to Buford Highway to get it. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 10, 2023, 04:29:13 PM
Sushi burrito. That has me written all over it.

We'll be in the Gaslamp Quarter right across from the baseball field.
If you've heard of Hodad's (burgers), it's not far from there. It was featured on DDD at one point, and it's an iconic surf-style burger joint. It's excellent. 

DO NOT WALK THERE FROM THE GASLAMP. Uber it. 

Last time my wife and I were there (2021), we parked only a few blocks from Hodad's and walked over, and she reminded me of my well-worn tradition of walking her through awful neighborhoods every time we're on vacation. Literally I'm sure if it wasn't me (6'5" 265# with a "dont F with us" look on my face) and the middle of the day, we might have had a problem. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 10, 2023, 05:45:44 PM
I get that. Especially if you're specifically referring to Chicago's Chinatown. But in general Chicago will have the population to support good authentic ethnic cuisine of nearly every type. It wouldn't surprise me if (outside of Chinatown) you really need to search carefully for the legit joints. 

The same is true here of course. Finding really excellent Chinese food in/around Mission Viejo is hard. Drive 10 miles north to Irvine, and it's easy. Finding decent Thai or pho here is not hard, but if you really want authentic South Asian cuisine, you go 10 mi further north to Westminster / Garden Grove. Those areas are far more dense enclaves of those particular nationalities, and thus the food reflects it.

The West Coast has a much higher population density of Asian descent than most places eastward. So you'll get more variety of authentic options in LA/OC, SF Bay Area, Seattle, or Vancouver than you'll get in most cities east of the Rockies, with places like Chicago and NY as notable exceptions.

Houston has a large Asian population and the cuisine to go along with it.  Austin has a smaller Asian population, but it's highly concentrated because of the university and all of the high tech companies that exist here, so there's some excellent Asian food here as well.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 10, 2023, 05:46:07 PM
Yeah, I know in downtown ATL there are better offerings. When I lived in Marietta, tho, there wasn't even any good Mexican food, much less Chinese, much less other less ubiquitous Asian cuisines.
Downtown is basically a food desert with a few exceptions.  It's sports bars and tourist spots mostly.  Midtown is a mecca except for French cuisine.  We have two superb Indian places and two Persian places, one of which just disappointed me.  Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, galore.  These places mostly survived COVID because they are good for takeout/delivery.  You can't really get French cuisine as takeout.  

Cuisine is an odd work, like entree, we morphed it.

American food in restaurnts is almost disappearing other than fast food and Cracker Barrel et al.  We have some "fried chicken" southern places.  Chicken and waffles is big for some reason.  I've never had it.  And of course shrimp and grits, which I have had, but don't order any more.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 10, 2023, 05:51:32 PM
Over all of my years up there I managed to find the spots, outside of Chinatown even.

I'm working on that here. I found the Pho spot but still working on the Chinese, Thai, etc.

Not a whole lot of Asians down here.
If they wanted a lush, mosquito-infested sauna where it rained every day, they would have stayed home.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 10, 2023, 05:54:40 PM
Obviously, different folks prefer different places for different reasons (duh).  I see no need to belittle anyone for their personal choices.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 10, 2023, 07:27:39 PM
Houston has a large Asian population and the cuisine to go along with it.  Austin has a smaller Asian population, but it's highly concentrated because of the university and all of the high tech companies that exist here, so there's some excellent Asian food here as well.

Yeah, I would expect that from Austin. 

A little surprised to hear that about Houston. Was there a particular historical or cultural reason that it happened? Or is it just a matter of being a large city? 
 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 10, 2023, 09:00:49 PM
Obviously, different folks prefer different places for different reasons (duh).  I see no need to belittle anyone for their personal choices.
Who was belittled?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 10, 2023, 09:11:16 PM
I head to Houston about annually, and I would say with the straightest of faces, Houston is only behind NYC, LA, and maybe even with Miami in terms of International flavor.  It is massively influenced by several SE Asian communities, not to mention Central, and South America.     I find a lot of Americans still equate Houston with cowboy hats, oil as only a domestic fuel source and space.    
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2023, 08:02:58 AM
If they wanted a lush, mosquito-infested sauna where it rained every day, they would have stayed home.
Thankfully it rained on Sunday, for the first time since February.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2023, 08:05:19 AM
Who was belittled?
Who was passive-aggressive?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2023, 08:57:16 AM
I'd like to see more of Alaska, the real part.  In summer.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2023, 09:31:35 AM
I'd be interested in Juneau.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on April 11, 2023, 09:34:11 AM
Go in Feb/March for the Iditarod
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2023, 09:35:10 AM
D'you know the capital of Alaska?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2023, 09:40:06 AM
Our impression of Savannah is a bit different from this ... though it's pretty neat to sit on the Riverfront drinking a beverage and seeing some enormous cargo ship going by seemingly at arm's length.

(https://i.imgur.com/utc1Mqj.jpg)

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2023, 09:41:17 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/R62wB2v.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on April 11, 2023, 09:44:19 AM
D'you know the capital of Alaska?
I'd say Anchorage,fairbanks or Juneaux as they are the only ones I can remember,prolly isn't Nome or in Prudhoe bay
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2023, 09:48:26 AM
It's kind of a fake question.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on April 11, 2023, 12:18:25 PM
It's kind of a fake question.
Why is that? Every state has a Capital,turns out to be Juneau up there. I would have guessed Anchorage as it's so much bigger than the others
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2023, 01:23:13 PM
You have to say it kinda fast to get it ... "D'You know, the capital of Alaska" ... which sounds like "Juneau, the capital of Alaska"...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 11, 2023, 01:30:26 PM
Who was passive-aggressive?
Yeah, towards the weather in Florida, not at a person or people, lol.  FFS
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 11, 2023, 01:53:14 PM


We'll be in the Gaslamp Quarter right across from the baseball field.


If you've heard of Hodad's (burgers), it's not far from there. It was featured on DDD at one point, and it's an iconic surf-style burger joint. It's excellent.

DO NOT WALK THERE FROM THE GASLAMP. Uber it.

Last time my wife and I were there (2021), we parked only a few blocks from Hodad's and walked over, and she reminded me of my well-worn tradition of walking her through awful neighborhoods every time we're on vacation. Literally I'm sure if it wasn't me (6'5" 265# with a "dont F with us" look on my face) and the middle of the day, we might have had a problem.

Just make sure it's daytime and you'll be fine. The below picture, along my commute this morning is about 2 blocks from Hodads. Tents on both sides of street, occupied by mostly drug addicts.

For a brief walking primer of downtown San Diego, Gaslamp is specifically the bar corridor all up and down 5th street. Private security keeps a close eye on security risks and clears the walkways of squatters. 6th street is mostly fine too with Smoking Gun and the Coin-Op Arcade Bar excellent places. Venturing to 7th and further inland away from the Padres stadium and the streets can get pretty in your face after dark. Hodad's I think is on 10th.

Downtown San Diego's homeless population has topped over 2000 since the new year. Up from 1200 in 2019 and 600 in 2020 when the numbers dropped when the city opened the convention center to the homeless during Covid.


(https://i.imgur.com/fNd2m4x.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2023, 02:46:21 PM
Oops: SeaTac Airport's Flawed New International Terminal - One Mile at a Time (https://onemileatatime.com/news/seatac-airport-flawed-international-terminal/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=One Mile at a)

The terminal has 20 gates, and the intent was that all of those gates could be used by wide body jets at the same time. However, after construction was complete, it was determined that a design flaw means that only 16 wide body jets can use the terminal at a time, leading to a potential 20% shortfall in capacity.
Each gate is designed to accommodate certain wide body aircraft, with some gates being able to accommodate A330s and 787s, and other gates being able to accommodate 777s (which are larger). The gates need to be large enough not just to accommodate the planes, but also for the equipment needed to service aircraft, like fuel trucks, baggage trucks, and more.
Unfortunately after aircraft “fit checks” were performed, it was determined that four of the gates (A6, A8, S4, and S6) couldn’t accommodate the jets that they were supposed to. For example, gate A6 is supposed to accommodate a 777, but this is only possible by swinging the jet in an arc, and parking slantwise to the building, rather than pulling straight into the gate. However, that would mean that the adjacent gate A5 couldn’t be in use while this maneuver was being performed.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2023, 03:27:25 PM
Yeah, towards the weather in Florida, not at a person or people, lol.  FFS
We like the weather here, but we certainly would not want to be inland.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 15, 2023, 03:12:23 PM
BIG LAKE, Alaska —
It's been 10 years since this Boeing 727 cargo jet has flown. It has served as a sample plane for airline mechanics in training since.


But now, Jon Kotwicki, the owner of FLY8MA flight training school in Big Lake, Alaska, has big plans for this plane.

"It will serve as student housing for students who are coming to do flight training with us from afar, as well as an Airbnb," Kotwicki said.

Before the plane can serve as a temporary home, it has to make its new location, which will require towing it down public roads.

"This was the first airliner I know of this can be towed along Glenn (Highway)," Kotwicki said. "This will be going about 10 to 15 miles per hour."

Kotwicki says he hopes to have the plane ready to be an Airbnb within the next 12 to 16 months.


https://www.ketv.com/article/huge-cargo-plane-will-soon-be-an-airbnb/43547979 (https://www.ketv.com/article/huge-cargo-plane-will-soon-be-an-airbnb/43547979)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2023, 04:46:34 AM
"We" towed our Cessna 152 about 3 miles to the airport after I set it down in the soybean field.  We actually loaded it on a flatbed tow truck and drove it at about 3 mph down the road with police escort.  I got the tow bill later, it was $80.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 16, 2023, 09:30:08 AM
lucky you weren't billed for the escort
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2023, 10:40:42 AM
lucky you weren't billed for the escort
Yeah, three police cruisers, and two guys with polls walking on each side of us holding back branches and ensuring we clear any lines.  This was near Richmond, IN, I think they enjoyed the excitement,  it made the Dayton 11 PM news.

The lady sheriff I rode with was rather purty.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 18, 2023, 08:59:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/dLZjAa9.png)

A place I'd like to visit, but won't.  We might make Igasu Falls someday.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 19, 2023, 11:52:44 AM
Etosha National Park in Namibia is one of the largest national parks in the world and is home to 114 mammal species, 110 reptile species, and over 340 bird species. Etosha means "great white place" or "place of emptiness."
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 21, 2023, 07:44:13 AM
My "crazy" neighbor is just back from Ethiopia, we had him over for dinner last night.  His basic comment was that country is not ready for Western tourism (most here would say "Duh!").  Outside Addis Abbaba, he said it's akin to Turkey when he was a boy, very basic and undeveloped.  He said the population was well over 100 million which surprised me.

He's still processing his photos of various animals he took, that is his passion.

His next trip to  to Bolivia, the garden spot of the whole country probably.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 21, 2023, 09:37:36 AM
he's crazy
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 21, 2023, 10:11:14 AM
A list of places he's been would be "impressive", including the very rural parts of Africa.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 21, 2023, 03:57:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/GXVJeex.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 24, 2023, 08:21:12 AM

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 24, 2023, 10:54:30 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/FNXbIpB.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 02, 2023, 10:19:14 AM
"Combat claustrophobia by taking a virtual tour of some of the country’s most majestic national parks. The Hidden Worlds of the National Parks project from Google Arts & Culture offers virtual, 360-degree tours of five National Park System sites, all guided by real park rangers. The diverse destinations include the Kenai Fjords in Alaska; Volcanoes in Hawai’i; Carlsbad Caverns in New Mexico; Bryce Canyon in Utah; and Dry Tortugas in Florida. You can view all the properties from your phone or computer, and if you have a virtual reality headset, you can transport yourself out of your home with an immersive experience."

https://artsandculture.withgoogle.com/en-us/national-parks-service/parks (https://artsandculture.withgoogle.com/en-us/national-parks-service/parks)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 03, 2023, 09:18:16 AM
The world’s largest geothermal cave system is in Hungary. It is located underground Budapest. Europe’s largest underground lake also was recently found under Budapest’s Gellért Hill.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 07, 2023, 09:45:01 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/v7jAwUx.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 07, 2023, 09:52:59 AM
Cincydawg had a three-way. 

And a Cincy dog. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 09, 2023, 02:07:31 PM
Four way onion and coney at Blue Ash Chili, back home now after one night in the mountains.  Heard and excellent concert in Cincy and had some quality time with Louis Langree' and his wife.  Kind of a lot of driving, got 39 mpg in the highway at 80 mph.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 09, 2023, 02:12:05 PM
We stayed one night in Lake Junaluska NC (below) but I had worked up a blister on my foot and we couldn't walk about as much as I wanted.  The weather held for us.  We drove into Waynesville, NC for dinner, what once was a dying town is now thriving.

(https://i.imgur.com/L3D2kNx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7KhuUA0.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on May 10, 2023, 09:49:59 AM
I'm thinking about going to Myrtle Beach in late June. I've never been. I wanted to go a few times but the ex-wife always nixed it. Now that the "ex" has been added to her title I'm going to do it. I've found some nice AirBnB's right next to the beach. I'll take my dog and my golf clubs and have a good time. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 10, 2023, 10:03:02 AM
Myrtle Beach is not my cup of tea, at all, but they do have a lot of golf around.

And it can be pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 10, 2023, 10:04:49 AM
nuttin wrong with cheap golf
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 10, 2023, 07:55:43 PM
Myrtle Beach has a state park with some nice cabins. 

Man, those Carolina mountains look tiny.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on May 10, 2023, 08:08:58 PM
Nowhere in the world are there more mini golf courses than Myrtle Beach.  In addition to the strand of 40+ courses that all seem the same when trying to figure out which ones to play.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 25, 2023, 03:36:04 PM
Cincinnati’s the place to be! Tonight, Thursday, May 25th, please join us on rooftop bar at The Phelps Bar/ Top of the Park.

(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/349104153_198962833058333_208944454231898032_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=50hLEYiiQZsAX8sLIJT&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AfDDL9Uy_Ej9SFSL2dNeJn-dnNwphBQyLumKqyjGKwUU1A&oe=647449F5)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2023, 09:49:11 AM
The No. 1 'underrated' city in the world, according to 175 travel experts: It's the 'new hot city' (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/24/the-no-1-underrated-city-in-the-world-according-to-175-travel-experts-its-poised-to-be-the-hot-new-city.html)

The 7 cities you 'must visit before you die,' according to 50 travel experts—only one is in the U.S. (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/11/cities-to-visit-before-you-die-according-to-50-travel-experts-and-only-one-is-in-the-us.html)

Have not yet been to Tokyo, only seen the airport in Istanbul, Cape Town is on the short list somewhere.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2023, 09:52:01 AM
How Delta moves 100,000 bags daily at the world's busiest airport (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/video/2023/05/07/how-delta-moves-100000-bags-daily-at-the-worlds-busiest-airport.html)

They claim to have an impressive record.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 26, 2023, 09:56:04 AM
Have not yet been to Tokyo, only seen the airport in Istanbul, Cape Town is on the short list somewhere.
The only one that interests me on that list is Tokyo. Been to Rome twice.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2023, 09:58:12 AM
Friends tell me Cape Town is worth the effort.  Our Istanbul trip was scheduled for April 2020, didn't work out.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 26, 2023, 10:21:48 AM
must be great because that's a lot of effort
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on May 26, 2023, 11:00:45 AM
That list isn't lying about Bologna. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 26, 2023, 11:12:54 AM
That list isn't lying about Bologna.
It's on our list for the next Europe trip. Tell me about it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2023, 11:50:18 AM
I don't view Capetown as requiring more effort than Tokyo or Istanbul, we have a direct flight from here to J-burg.  Istanbul has a direct flight, so it's a bit easier.  Tokyo gets tough because of the time zone changes.  My preference would be go to Hawaii for a week and then to Tokyo.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 26, 2023, 11:59:42 AM
Tokyo is on my list. And from here it's relatively easy to get direct flights, only ~9 hrs IIRC. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2023, 12:01:53 PM
11h 45m
Nonstop flight
Los Angeles, CA (LAX) to Tokyo, Japan (all airports)



Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 26, 2023, 12:04:58 PM
11h 45m
Nonstop flight
Los Angeles, CA (LAX) to Tokyo, Japan (all airports)
Hmm. I thought it was less. Maybe because the return is only 10 hrs. 

I was thinking of it being shorter than Taipei which due to great circle routing almost takes you right over Japan being 12 hrs, but again that's the return flight not the outbound flight which is closer to 14 hrs. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 26, 2023, 01:02:21 PM
many many great places to visit that are closer than that

seems like more effort

I didn't enjoy the flight from Honolulu to Chicago
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on May 26, 2023, 02:06:22 PM
It's on our list for the next Europe trip. Tell me about it.
Keep in mind my two visits to Bologna were in late December with the city enveloped in cold, dense fog. My thoughts: 

-Easy to get to. The train station is as close to the city center as they get in the major cities, and all of the high-speed rail lines pass through and stop at Bologna Centrale station. Also, the entire city is very close together and pedestrian friendly.

-It's the birthplace of tortellini, so there are several places in il Quadrilatero that sell it fresh from the roller. 

-I know that food is a recurring theme in Italy, but the meals were simple and fantastic. Our dinners were at Trattoria del Rosso, on Via Augusto Righi. 

-Even with all the great meals we ate, my FIL's favorite food item was a simple hunk of foccacia with red sauce from a bakery (Pizza Leggera) across the street from the train station.

-If you're interested in seeing how parmesano reggiano (sp?) is made, there are a couple of tours out of Reggio Emilia that I can point you towards. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2023, 02:14:40 PM
We  try and  travel to Europe in the semi off season for obvious reasons.  I will say I almost froze in Verdun one December, that was a memorable visit, and extremely depressing in a way.  The city seemed very nice though.  The battlefields are stunning.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 26, 2023, 02:41:15 PM
We  try and  travel to Europe in the semi off season for obvious reasons.  I will say I almost froze in Verdun one December, that was a memorable visit, and extremely depressing in a way.  The city seemed very nice though.  The battlefields are stunning.
Yeah, we were in the Cinque Terre in late March when we went. It was a little chilly and basically devoid of crowds. It was wonderful :72:

I'd never, ever, EVER consider going there in July/August. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2023, 02:45:12 PM
We were in Paris in September last year, it was pretty decent.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on May 26, 2023, 02:46:12 PM
Yeah, we were in the Cinque Terre in late March when we went. It was a little chilly and basically devoid of crowds. It was wonderful :72:

I'd never, ever, EVER consider going there in July/August.
When we hit the Cinque Terre it was mid June.  The crowds were building but the weather was great.  I've spent  too many Sp'Winters in Europe to ever really desire to be there any time before maybe mid-May.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2023, 02:50:39 PM
We stayed in a friend's guest house a couple times in winter, had a good snow once.  I mostly stayed by the fire reading.  

She sold her place a year or so back, so we can't stay there now (Fontainebleau).
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on May 26, 2023, 03:39:10 PM
The coldest winter I ever lived through, was spring in France.

Or summer in San Francisco. 
Take your pick. :)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 26, 2023, 04:01:42 PM
Keep in mind my two visits to Bologna were in late December with the city enveloped in cold, dense fog. My thoughts:

-Easy to get to. The train station is as close to the city center as they get in the major cities, and all of the high-speed rail lines pass through and stop at Bologna Centrale station. Also, the entire city is very close together and pedestrian friendly.

-It's the birthplace of tortellini, so there are several places in il Quadrilatero that sell it fresh from the roller.

-I know that food is a recurring theme in Italy, but the meals were simple and fantastic. Our dinners were at Trattoria del Rosso, on Via Augusto Righi.

-Even with all the great meals we ate, my FIL's favorite food item was a simple hunk of foccacia with red sauce from a bakery (Pizza Leggera) across the street from the train station.

-If you're interested in seeing how parmesano reggiano (sp?) is made, there are a couple of tours out of Reggio Emilia that I can point you towards.
Thanks!!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 26, 2023, 04:03:32 PM
I like April and October in Europe (for the places I've been to). November in Amsterdam was pretty cold.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 27, 2023, 07:27:14 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: longhorn320 on May 27, 2023, 09:24:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/20mi12Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 28, 2023, 08:29:22 AM
We see some nice sunsets often from our large window here (not usually THAT colorful).  I'm going to try and paint one here shortly in my ultra amateurish efforts to paint.

If it's not too awful I might post it here.  It'll probably be pretty awful though.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2023, 08:40:43 AM
"If you hear a voice within you say 'you cannot paint,' then by all means paint and that voice will be silenced." - Vincent Van Gogh
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 28, 2023, 08:43:13 AM
Great quote, unfortunately, my first effort is pretty awful despite my wife's flattery.  I'm still going at it, it costs little, and I enjoy it.

It's easier than writing.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 28, 2023, 12:22:47 PM
My daughter (4th grade) just had one of her drawings displayed in a school art exhibit.

Better than I could draw lol...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 28, 2023, 12:27:45 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: longhorn320 on May 28, 2023, 03:14:28 PM
We see some nice sunsets often from our large window here (not usually THAT colorful).  I'm going to try and paint one here shortly in my ultra amateurish efforts to paint.

If it's not too awful I might post it here.  It'll probably be pretty awful though.
its actually a sunrise Galveston

https://twitter.com/DavidJamesVR/status/1662065062264045569?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 28, 2023, 04:40:12 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bCrMYsO.png)

This was on FB and I'm trying to paint it, sort of.  Right now it looks more like a volcano exploding ...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: longhorn320 on May 28, 2023, 05:08:43 PM
you know its a documented fact that the sun will not go down unless ya got a cold beer in your hand
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2023, 06:16:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bCrMYsO.png)

This was on FB and I'm trying to paint it, sort of.  Right now it looks more like a volcano exploding ...
I believe in you.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 28, 2023, 10:56:42 PM
I got to do the scenic Utah Rt 12 today. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9e6P2CSuDc&t=1s
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2023, 11:39:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/778ZWTs.jpg)
My picture of friends taking a picture in Utah.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2023, 11:41:05 PM

Used to be a cool rock sticking out of the water on the AZ/UT border.  Now you can just walk out to it.  


(https://i.imgur.com/mLkyn6l.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2023, 05:56:50 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/nC3aiOM.png)
The Kawazu-Nanadaru Loop Bridge, in Japan, is an example of how to build a bridge from one mountainside to another when the sides of the mountain are so steep that it is not possible to build a road at the same elevation on both sides. It's one of the most spectacular bridges in the world.
This double spiral brings cars up and down a full 45 meters (148 feet) while being seemingly suspended in a valley between two mountainsides.
Some other stats:
- 1.1 km long
- 80 meters in diameter
- speed limit: 30 km/h



Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2023, 10:46:20 AM
Chris Janson - "Buy Me A Boat" (Official Video) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPjKSVe1tQ)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on May 30, 2023, 10:56:41 AM
many many great places to visit that are closer than that

seems like more effort

I didn't enjoy the flight from Honolulu to Chicago
Istanbul to Chicago was brutal. It was our only option when we missed our flight from Venice to Chicago. Our flight from Paris to Venice that day was redirected to Bologna. We sat on the tarmac in Bologna for two hours frantically trying to re-arrange flights. When we finally got to leave Bologna and landed in Venice, the TAP Portugal plane that was supposed to take us to Chicago was taxiing to take off. It's a pretty desolate feeling to see that. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on May 30, 2023, 12:53:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/iPSAR4v.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 30, 2023, 01:04:36 PM
My worst flight was Toronto to Dubai, in coach.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Hawkinole on May 31, 2023, 12:53:31 AM
My daughter (4th grade) just had one of her drawings displayed in a school art exhibit.

Better than I could draw lol...
Add a sense of humor, which could be yours, a few other characters, and you and your daughter will be putting out Junesbury calendars and comics (replacement for Doonesbury). That drawing is excellent!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 04, 2023, 08:48:35 AM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281332207_10166289301030383_7120851851275165450_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=F7J11S5MtwAAX8TXZVR&_nc_oc=AQnYZYwhSVMbePN8clhPX6kKqqRoVhutbQ3rxSliR8DD4rEUAqSCoG1ZNI6mtX_HIig&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAZLr_RkSm2pvtrQJwjvMMnyG5OEMgrOQP40owP3iIkLQ&oe=64810F29)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 09, 2023, 08:50:37 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on June 09, 2023, 10:53:59 AM
Heading to Maine today to spend a week just relaxing and doing nothing. Then going to Central Mass to spend another week doing nothing. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 09, 2023, 11:01:56 AM
I love Maine, have fun!

At the end of June we're headed out for a couple of weeks, going to spend most of that time on the white sand beaches of the Florida Panhandle, and then a few days on the way home stopping off in New Orleans. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 09, 2023, 11:05:07 AM
I got quite good at doing nothing around here.  One of my complaints to my wife about traveling is we both like it here just fine.

We're off to Vancouver in July, my twins birthday is then, and both will be there.  They'll be 35, both doing well, one moved from AUSTIN to C-bus recently.

Maybe we should move to Austin.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 09, 2023, 11:13:52 AM
I got quite good at doing nothing around here.  One of my complaints to my wife about traveling is we both like it here just fine.

We're off to Vancouver in July, my twins birthday is then, and both will be there.  They'll be 35, both doing well, one moved from AUSTIN to C-bus recently.

Maybe we should move to Austin.
Have fun in Vancouver! We were just there last Sept. Very cool place. 

If you get a chance, head down to Victoria for a day. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 09, 2023, 11:40:38 AM
We've been to Victoria before, probably won't again.  We did several tours of Vancouver last time we were there, my daughter had just moved so it was interesting for her.  She scheduled a boat tour this time.  We had some pretty good food there also.

I booked the flights in coach but we've been upgraded so far to Comfort, hoping we might get FC on some segments, we go through Toronto going out, nonstop coming back.  Flights have been so packed of late upgrades seem to be rare.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 09, 2023, 12:37:22 PM
We've been to Victoria before, probably won't again.  We did several tours of Vancouver last time we were there, my daughter had just moved so it was interesting for her.  She scheduled a boat tour this time.  We had some pretty good food there also.
Ahh, if you've already been to Victoria, probably no need to go again. 

We did a seaplane tour while we were in Vancouver as well... Not cheap but very cool. 

Chinese & Japanese food in Vancouver is spectacular, if you're into that. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 09, 2023, 12:46:56 PM
I got quite good at doing nothing around here.  One of my complaints to my wife about traveling is we both like it here just fine.

We're off to Vancouver in July, my twins birthday is then, and both will be there.  They'll be 35, both doing well, one moved from AUSTIN to C-bus recently.

Maybe we should move to Austin.
Sounds more like you need to move to C-bus.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 09, 2023, 01:04:23 PM
We've been to Victoria before, probably won't again.  We did several tours of Vancouver last time we were there, my daughter had just moved so it was interesting for her.  She scheduled a boat tour this time.  We had some pretty good food there also.

I booked the flights in coach but we've been upgraded so far to Comfort, hoping we might get FC on some segments, we go through Toronto going out, nonstop coming back.  Flights have been so packed of late upgrades seem to be rare.
Been to Whistler?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 09, 2023, 01:32:08 PM
We did a sea plane tour last visit.  Have not been to Whistler, talked about it, she doesn't have a car.

We just had Thai for lunch at a new place near us.  We both like Asian food a lot, have two superb Indian places here in walking distance.  But no French.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 10, 2023, 05:29:43 AM
Where is a place you've been and would really like to return to and spend more time?

For me, I always enjoy Zion NP, but I'd say Glacier NP because when we visited it was too early, the GttS road was still closed, and it was very overcast and we barely saw much.  My wife would probably say Rome because our stay there was quite short though we had a solid tour.

We have a tenth anniversay upcoming and I offered to take her to a really upscale restaurant and she suggested a brief tour of North Georgia, again, which I planned.  She likes Dahlonega, and can even pronounce it now.  We're also staying in Blue Ridge which I don't know at all.  They have a train ride there we might do though it's a bit pricey.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 10, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Where is a place you've been and would really like to return to and spend more time?

For me, I always enjoy Zion NP, but I'd say Glacier NP because when we visited it was too early, the GttS road was still closed, and it was very overcast and we barely saw much.  My wife would probably say Rome because our stay there was quite short though we had a solid tour.

We have a tenth anniversay upcoming and I offered to take her to a really upscale restaurant and she suggested a brief tour of North Georgia, again, which I planned.  She likes Dahlonega, and can even pronounce it now.  We're also staying in Blue Ridge which I don't know at all.  They have a train ride there we might do though it's a bit pricey.
There are several:

Florence
Amsterdam
Barcelona
Kauai

Subject to cleanup:

Seattle
LA
Chicago
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 11, 2023, 08:48:49 PM
Where is a place you've been and would really like to return to and spend more time?

pebble beach
I just walked through the clubhouse and bought a cap
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on June 13, 2023, 10:39:29 AM
On the job in the Bay Area this week. A number of the cities comprising the Greater Bay Area are surprisingly run-down:

You think they'll be open later so I can buy some shoes?

(https://i.imgur.com/xHeoY61.jpg)



Potentially affordable Waterfront views?

(https://i.imgur.com/IeGzGzC.png)



Lots of RV living:

(https://i.imgur.com/ExEUuDR.jpg)


And if you look closely here's an actual streetwalker on the cross walk, an approach to prostitution which I figured the internet had phased out, but no:

(https://i.imgur.com/mtCd0Fb.png)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 13, 2023, 10:43:45 AM
That's icky.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 13, 2023, 10:48:17 AM
Last time I was in San Jose (late 2021) it was a lot more icky than I remember it... 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 13, 2023, 10:53:38 AM
This road is pretty icky also, but has the saving grace of some awesome ethnic restaurants ... Buford Highway ...

(https://i.imgur.com/fuDn6TS.jpg)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 13, 2023, 11:25:33 AM
This road is pretty icky also, but has the saving grace of some awesome ethnic restaurants ... Buford Highway ...

Yep. When I lived back there in Marietta, it was the best place to get actually GOOD Mexican food. 

I'm sure there were some places in the middle of Atlanta, but at least Buford Hwy was easier to get to from the 'burbs and find parking etc...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 13, 2023, 11:43:33 AM
Not only Mex, but all manner of Asian as well.  The local Mex place a block from me is "OK", but not great.  I've heard of some really good ones maybe 3 miles away.

As for Asian, I don't have to walk far at all for it.

A new place is about to open that has some prospects of being good, it's not Tex-Mex of course.

Modern Latin Restaurant | AltaToro | Midtown Atlanta (https://altatoro.com/)

We've had tacoes at home the last two nights that we both like a lot.  Easy to make.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 13, 2023, 11:48:59 AM
A new place is about to open that has some prospects of being good, it's not Tex-Mex of course.
Here in SoCal, we usually prefer Mexican food to Tex-Mex... 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 14, 2023, 12:29:39 AM
obviously
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 14, 2023, 07:18:21 PM
Heading to San Antonio in Oct to visit in-laws... Any local expertise on things to do / places to see? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2023, 11:17:31 AM
I've never been there so no help from me. My wife was there on business and said it was a nice place, but that was 20 years ago or more.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 15, 2023, 11:26:57 AM
We stayed one night on the River Walk, thought it was interesting, but touristy, as one might expect.  Toured the Alamo, as I remember.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 15, 2023, 12:13:54 PM
Here in SoCal, we usually prefer Mexican food to Tex-Mex...
Both are delicious, but yeah, I've tried the California attempts at Tex-Mex and I wouldn't bother eating it, either.
.
Heading to San Antonio in Oct to visit in-laws... Any local expertise on things to do / places to see?

River Walk is fun but obviously touristy, Alamo tour is interesting.
Lots of excellent Tex-Mex of course. :)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 15, 2023, 01:32:56 PM
One of the best, um, "Mexicanish" meals I ever had was in LA, it was red snapper and something.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2023, 01:40:41 PM
One of the best, um, "Mexicanish" meals I ever had was in LA, it was red snapper and something.


That's a dish you can get up and down both Coasts of Mexico. My favorite prep for that would be something out of Oaxaca, probably.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 15, 2023, 01:54:01 PM
Yup, lots of great seafood in Mexico.   We spend a ton of time on the Yucatan, they like to grill up snapper in banana leaves over there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on June 15, 2023, 01:56:38 PM
I'm heading to the Great White North in about a week and a half. I got a nice little Airbnb on a cliff overlooking Lake Erie. It's a little town at the southernmost point of Canada named Colchester. I was looking for something new to do in my summer off weeks and stumbled across this. It's only a 4.5 hour drive, I can take my dog, there's plenty of golf courses in the immediate area, and 5-6 wineries as well. I've been to a lot of places south of the US but never to America's Hat. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2023, 02:28:02 PM
I'm heading to the Great White North in about a week and a half. I got a nice little Airbnb on a cliff overlooking Lake Erie. It's a little town at the southernmost point of Canada named Colchester. I was looking for something new to do in my summer off weeks and stumbled across this. It's only a 4.5 hour drive, I can take my dog, there's plenty of golf courses in the immediate area, and 5-6 wineries as well. I've been to a lot of places south of the US but never to America's Hat.
My friends overnighted in that Harbor on their journey from NYC to Kenosha!

I emailed him and he said you need to eat at The Wreck.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 15, 2023, 03:00:50 PM
We went to a place that's basically right around the corner last night that opened back in November. 

It's called Xclusive Mexican Seafood, and we went there DESPITE the name, because the Yelp reviews were good. 

It was actually quite good. 

I ordered Mojarra Frita, a whole fried fish with crackly crispy skin and flaky white interior, which came with tortillas, beans, rice, and the taco fixings (guac, sour cream, pico). Really delicious. 

We'll definitely be back there. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on June 15, 2023, 03:36:34 PM
I'm heading to the Great White North in about a week and a half. I got a nice little Airbnb on a cliff overlooking Lake Erie. It's a little town at the southernmost point of Canada named Colchester. I was looking for something new to do in my summer off weeks and stumbled across this. It's only a 4.5 hour drive, I can take my dog, there's plenty of golf courses in the immediate area, and 5-6 wineries as well. I've been to a lot of places south of the US but never to America's Hat.
Took 28 trips up there,12 of my 1st 13 yrs pretty much. Then started back to Ontario and Quebec until 2000. Always loved the fishing & Canadian beers out on the deck overlooking georgeous spacely populated lakes. The Beers were much prized before the rise of the crafts. Still a safe harbor for good suds,never golfed there though but why ruin a good fishing trip - enjoy
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2023, 04:03:47 PM
Took 28 trips up there,12 of my 1st 13 yrs pretty much. Then started back to Ontario and Quebec until 2000. Always loved the fishing & Canadian beers out on the deck overlooking georgeous spacely populated lakes. The Beers were much prized before the rise of the crafts. Still a safe harbor for good suds,never golfed there though but why ruin a good fishing trip - enjoy
Did you go by boat?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 15, 2023, 04:15:26 PM
With the exception of a couple trips to Windsor to drink during the ages of 19-20, I've only had one Canada trip that WASN'T for work. That was Vancouver last fall. 

I've gotten to see Ottawa, Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver for work. Calgary is basically "Cold Texas" lol. 

I want to get to Montreal at some point. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 15, 2023, 04:18:14 PM
With the exception of a couple trips to Windsor to drink during the ages of 19-20, I've only had one Canada trip that WASN'T for work. That was Vancouver last fall.

I've gotten to see Ottawa, Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver for work. Calgary is basically "Cold Texas" lol.

I want to get to Montreal at some point.
Heh, I've never heard this.  They wear boots and 10-gallon hats or something? :)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 15, 2023, 04:28:11 PM
Heh, I've never heard this.  They wear boots and 10-gallon hats or something? :)
Pretty much. Big oil & gas place, lots of cattle, big trucks, ranching, etc. 

Hit up the YouTube for the "Calgary Stampede". 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2023, 04:52:07 PM
With the exception of a couple trips to Windsor to drink during the ages of 19-20, I've only had one Canada trip that WASN'T for work. That was Vancouver last fall.

I've gotten to see Ottawa, Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver for work. Calgary is basically "Cold Texas" lol.

I want to get to Montreal at some point.
Us too.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Honestbuckeye on June 15, 2023, 08:06:02 PM
Canada is beautiful in so many places.  Montreal, Toronto- cool places to visit. 

But my favorite trips were the 8 or 9 
Fly-In trips deep into the north woods.  

Unbelievable nature, highly undisturbed. And of course- world class fishing.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 16, 2023, 07:56:52 AM
Montreal and Quebec City is on our list as well.  My wife spent six months working in the former, says it's nice, but she says they talk funny.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on June 18, 2023, 02:21:46 PM
I miss Canada.  Covid (specifically Canada's management) really handcuffed some of the fly in places which have subsequently closed, or have materially changed their offerings.     It remains a very underrated vacation destination in my view.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on June 18, 2023, 02:24:53 PM
I realize it is June and it wasn't by choice, but I had to spend the last week in FL (AAU volleyball tournament) and it certainly reaffirmed my dislike of Florida.   Just not my cup of tea.  Yes, there are some really nice lodging properties, but just can't embrace it.  (has nothing to do with red state/blue state bulljive).
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 18, 2023, 02:46:10 PM
Where in Florida?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 18, 2023, 03:33:53 PM
I'll be in Florida on Tuesday.  Bech resort/yacht club near Pensacola.  My sister lived there for almost ten years and I love those white sand beaches.

We'll be stopping in New Orleans for a few days on the way home, which I might be even more excited about.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Honestbuckeye on June 18, 2023, 03:50:04 PM
I'll be in Florida on Tuesday.  Bech resort/yacht club near Pensacola.  My sister lived there for almost ten years and I love those white sand beaches.

We'll be stopping in New Orleans for a few days on the way home, which I might be even more excited about.
Not sure if you are into oysters- there are some great oyster bars there!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on June 19, 2023, 12:52:04 AM
Where in Florida?
It wasn't as if this particular visit was some straw breaking back on my views of FL, just reaffirmation.
Most of this past week I was in Orlando (where the Natl tournament is each year).  I would never in my life visit FL by choice in June-Sept.    we also spent some time in Cocoa Beach/Cape etc.    Last year we spent time in Clearwater and Tampa.  I think Destin is about the only area of FL I haven't been to that I might try sometime. 

I don't mean to bash up on FL here.  Climate simply isn't my type.  Not my type of nature/terrain/landscape.  I loathe bermuda grass for golf.  I find the golf courses remarkably indistinguishable.  Cactus League trips are superior to Grapefruit League.  I'm also completely uninterested in the entire theme park scene.    That said, Ponte Vedra Inn and Club, One Ocean (both near Jax), Ritz in Key Biscayne and JW Marriott at Marco are all fabulous properties.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 19, 2023, 04:47:11 AM
Yeah, everyone knows Orlando sucks.
You need to spend some time in the Keys, lol.
You'd die living in Gainesville.  No seabreeze, 95% humidity....at football practice, my hightop cleats would be heavy and wet by the end of warm-ups.
Some people don't like an 8-hour sauna all summer, lol.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 19, 2023, 09:48:56 AM
Clearwater Beach is really nice.

Sarasota is very nice. Lido Beach Resort is a great place to stay there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2023, 09:51:58 AM
We stayed two nights in Clearwater Beach on the way back from baseball two years ago.  That was in January of course, it seemed OK to me, I don't care to go back.  I kept looking for a good "real" seafood restaurant with no luck.  I lean to funky mom and pop places on the coast with their own fleet.

Beach resorts nowadays often are too developed for my quaint tastes, places like Biarritz etc.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 19, 2023, 09:58:08 AM
Some people don't like an 8-hour sauna all summer, lol.
Yeah, not interested in FL for that reason specifically. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 19, 2023, 10:07:22 AM
It can get windy here.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Honestbuckeye on June 19, 2023, 10:10:00 AM
All true of course. 

Remember- I came to Florida in early 16 having been recruited for my job.  

Can’t lie- was tired of the long and bitter Michigan winters. 

It’s great here January thru May.  Warm, not particularly humid.  Golf, fish, bbq, beach etc.   

But once you get to mid June- it is miserable due to oppressive humidity.  

That’s why I look forward to a week in Northern Michigan ( summer and fall there are spectacular) every year- plus my annual golf trip up there in September w boys from HS. 

Also- aside from coastal areas which are mostly beautiful- Florida is ugly and no the least bit scenic. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Honestbuckeye on June 19, 2023, 10:15:34 AM
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Pontoon boat and condo on Torch Lake in August this year. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 19, 2023, 10:16:29 AM
There are some areas in the "middle" that are nice, but I prefer the coasts, and in particular the West coast.

We could probably live on the East Coast near your area @Honestbuckeye (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=37) but man once you get South of there into Palm Beach the traffic is horrendous. Especially in the season. And the further South you go, it gets even worse.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 19, 2023, 10:18:25 AM
Last year we did 5 weeks in Kenosha WI and that was too long to be away by about 4 weeks. So this year we are going for 3 trips at one week each. July 2, August 6 and September 3. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Honestbuckeye on June 19, 2023, 10:21:20 AM
There are some areas in the "middle" that are nice, but I prefer the coasts, and in particular the West coast.

We could probably live on the East Coast near your area @Honestbuckeye (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=37) but man once you get South of there into Palm Beach the traffic is horrendous. Especially in the season. And the further South you go, it gets even worse.
Very true   

I actually prefer that coast as well.  The shallow side. 

another reason to prefer the west side is that is the I 75 corridor in many of the folks over there or from the Midwest. Generally speaking warm and friendly people.
On my side it’s the I 95 corridor so many of the people are from the north east and they have a different way about them. I will just say they’re not exactly warm or friendly.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 19, 2023, 10:42:46 AM
We've noticed that too.

Definitely more and more moving over here from the NE. On the East coast it's either impossible to find anything, or it's uber expensive.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2023, 10:45:03 AM
We looked at some places near and in Jacksonville that were reasonably priced back in the day.  I think as you go south from there it gets pricier.  We looked at a nice condo on the 24th floor in Jax with great views and a good price but the area around it was not very welcoming.  We looked at a 3,000 sf new house in Nokatee that was under $400 K, 7 miles from the beach.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 19, 2023, 11:11:19 AM
The Northern Palm Beach County line changes some things, but the Big Money really starts at about the middle of PBC.

We looked at Palm Beach Gardens in the N PBC and it was affordable for us. Close to the Intracoastal too. We have friends over there that we visit.

We simply chose to be over here, and we had our reasons.

More of a Midwest vibe. Generally calmer seas. Less traffic. My boat is on-demand just 1.5 miles from my front door. We can be in the Gulf in 20 minutes if we choose. 8 couples from our dock in Kenosha moved here (built-in friends off the bat). Our German friends moved over here from Pembroke Pines.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2023, 11:46:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/88Knsnl.png)

Maybe in my youth?  Maybe not.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 19, 2023, 12:06:47 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 19, 2023, 12:09:51 PM
I love Florida weather, here's the next week in Pensacola:

(https://i.imgur.com/98oZbBD.png)

And here's Austin over the same time period:


(https://i.imgur.com/yPmtIVI.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on June 19, 2023, 12:21:16 PM
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Pontoon boat and condo on Torch Lake in August this year.
I was just talking with my nephew yesterday that is looking to rent an AirB&B there in the next few weeks. Gorgeous area.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2023, 12:38:21 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on June 22, 2023, 10:47:40 AM
On the job in the Bay Area this week.

Continuing my stay in the Bay Area, spent last Sunday in Oakland. Haven’t visited a city with more graffiti than Oakland. There’s garbage most everywhere, and you can bet the RVs you see aren’t vacationers, but rather unfortunate curbside squatters:

(https://i.imgur.com/gX6QKps.jpg)

Along with more homeless encampments along and beneath the freeways (photos taken from the BART light-rail):

(https://i.imgur.com/ijZR2rO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Sz4Nixz.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Kris60 on June 22, 2023, 07:33:39 PM
My wife and daughter are 7 days into a 12 day trip in Europe that will take them through Ireland, Germany, Poland, The Czech Republic, and Austria.  After talking to them this evening I think they are both ready to come home.  It’s an educational trip through the school system and everything is busy and on a schedule.

They are finding out a trip and a vacation aren’t necessarily the same thing.  The one place my wife really wanted to visit was Auschwitz but my daughter got a bug or something and was throwing up all day so they had to sit that one out yesterday.  She is better now and they were in Prague today.  They both sound exhausted. Lol.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 23, 2023, 07:47:14 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2023, 07:54:53 AM
My wife and daughter are 7 days into a 12 day trip in Europe that will take them through Ireland, Germany, Poland, The Czech Republic, and Austria.  After talking to them this evening I think they are both ready to come home.  It’s an educational trip through the school system and everything is busy and on a schedule.

They are finding out a trip and a vacation aren’t necessarily the same thing.  The one place my wife really wanted to visit was Auschwitz but my daughter got a bug or something and was throwing up all day so they had to sit that one out yesterday.  She is better now and they were in Prague today.  They both sound exhausted. Lol.
That's too many countries with too little time. Each of those places is worthy of 12 days alone..
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 23, 2023, 08:38:25 AM
I think for a younger person, such a hectic trip can be useful.  I agree any major European city needs at least a week to scratch the surface.  And the older you are, the more down time you will need of course.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2023, 08:52:05 AM
I think for a younger person, such a hectic trip can be useful.  I agree any major European city needs at least a week to scratch the surface.  And the older you are, the more down time you will need of course.
If you're going to do that many countries in that short of time, I would do a cruise. At least you don't have to unpack and pack all the time.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 23, 2023, 08:53:53 AM
That is how we handle it of course.  We're doing one in October around the British isles, it's pretty hectic, one "day at sea".  Were we younger, we'd hoof it on our own.

We're both fine with Norwegian as a cruise line.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2023, 09:01:19 AM
We're looking at this one:

(https://i.imgur.com/bg5MIkP.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on June 23, 2023, 11:06:05 AM
My wife and daughter are 7 days into a 12 day trip in Europe that will take them through Ireland, Germany, Poland, The Czech Republic, and Austria.  After talking to them this evening I think they are both ready to come home.  It’s an educational trip through the school system and everything is busy and on a schedule.

They are finding out a trip and a vacation aren’t necessarily the same thing.  The one place my wife really wanted to visit was Auschwitz but my daughter got a bug or something and was throwing up all day so they had to sit that one out yesterday.  She is better now and they were in Prague today.  They both sound exhausted. Lol.
It took us two weeks to go through part of the northern half of Italy. Granted, I was ready to leave after a week in Rome.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2023, 11:14:51 AM
A week in Rome is probably enough. Vatican one day. Palatine Hill maybe 2 days. Lots to see there. Pantheon of course, plus various other sites that are worthy. "Cat temple", aqueducts, etc. 

Also, lots of good food to explore.

Our first time there we were in a bit of a hurry, so we went back again. We're all good now.

Civitavecchia is a cool city to do a cruise out of.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 23, 2023, 11:22:42 AM
I like to have a few days interspersed to "do nothing", which means have no plan, just walk around and see things.  I like being spontaneous when I plan ahead for it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on June 23, 2023, 11:42:10 AM
To be fair, we packed a LOT into our week in Rome on our honeymoon. 

The main event was going to the night Mass with Papa Frankie on Christmas Eve in St. Peter's. The atmosphere was like a super-reverent but high stakes football match. We waited in line with the family of a seminarian from North Dakota (tall English speakers tend to attract other English speakers), and were seated inside the basilica with a bunch of Brazilians. 

St. Paul's Outside the Walls was my favorite of the papal basilicas. 

We went to the Vatican Museums while there over Christmas 2021. Attendance at the time was capacity limited by COVID. And if the place was that busy while capacity-constrained, I don't want to be within a country mile of there in August with no restrictions on attendance.

Cacio e pepe in Rome was fantastic, and, despite it's simplicity, is something that the Mrs. and I have been utterly unable to replicate back stateside.

We tend to have a fairly loose schedule when we travel. If there are big-ticket events, schedule for that, but we don't want to be tied to an airtight schedule.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 23, 2023, 11:57:04 AM
Our notion is to spot check some city for a day or three and assess whether to return later for 5-9 days etc.  I have Vienna on my short list.  One obvious thing about retirement is one doesn't worry about missing work, same with having a condo, and no pets.  Having a large airport nearby also helps.

I'm looking hard at Asia now, the travel distance is a "feature" of course.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2023, 11:58:37 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 23, 2023, 12:26:39 PM
To be fair, we packed a LOT into our week in Rome on our honeymoon.

The main event was going to the night Mass with Papa Frankie on Christmas Eve in St. Peter's. The atmosphere was like a super-reverent but high stakes football match. We waited in line with the family of a seminarian from North Dakota (tall English speakers tend to attract other English speakers), and were seated inside the basilica with a bunch of Brazilians.

St. Paul's Outside the Walls was my favorite of the papal basilicas.

We went to the Vatican Museums while there over Christmas 2021. Attendance at the time was capacity limited by COVID. And if the place was that busy while capacity-constrained, I don't want to be within a country mile of there in August with no restrictions on attendance.

Cacio e pepe in Rome was fantastic, and, despite it's simplicity, is something that the Mrs. and I have been utterly unable to replicate back stateside.

We tend to have a fairly loose schedule when we travel. If there are big-ticket events, schedule for that, but we don't want to be tied to an airtight schedule.

The Vatican was effing crazy when we were there in 2018. 

I won't say that we can replicate cacio e pepe perfectly, but we've practiced quite a bit and can do fairly well.


If you enjoy anchovies, I also recommend trying pasta burro e alici, which is simple to make and far richer than you'd think for a 3-ingredient dish. 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Kris60 on June 24, 2023, 08:52:34 AM
My daughter found these WVU themed stacking dolls in Prague.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Kris60 on June 24, 2023, 08:55:37 AM
She bought it for me. Lol.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2023, 05:22:16 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 27, 2023, 01:44:50 AM
I like traveling cheaply. 
I'm visiting FL and GA to see family and friends over about 10 days.
One-way flights were cheaper this time (it's seems to flip-flop each year), so I got:
PHX to ATL for $105
5 day car rental for $106
ORL to PHX for $120
.
Orlando is MCO for some reason, but it's ORL in my mind.
The fun part is that probably half the other people in my first flight paid more for their seat than I have for my whole trip.  NO frequent flyer miles, no clubs, no groups.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2023, 07:35:01 AM
Does the City of Atlanta need a second airport? (fox5atlanta.com) (https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/hartsfield-jackson-atlanta-second-airport?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1bruGoM3JhYbFU1bktUanTZ9rRWsFPFjiS-MZ-ad7FlnHM4n-2iQMCM3Q)

Need?  Maybe.  Gonna get?  No.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 27, 2023, 07:56:12 AM
Expansion would be more likely.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2023, 07:58:53 AM
I like the 2 airport model better, but probably not as efficient
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2023, 08:05:55 AM
Expansion would be more likely.
There isn't much room down there, though the current notion is to build a sixth runway.  And of course another runway may help with plane traffic but it doesn't help with gates/security lines/parking/etc.

We dropped off my crazy Turkish friend yesterday at 6 PM at the International terminal.  It used to be there was nobody there, generally speaking, now it's a complete mess.  It took us an hour and a half, much of which was getting through traffic coming back.  I knew it would be bad, I suggested he use MARTA but he wanted to be dropped off, so I did.  We're headed to Vancouver next week via Toronto, we'll take MARTA.  

Any second airport would be 50 miles north of downtown and you would have to have a rail connection.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 27, 2023, 08:32:41 AM
I like the 2 airport model better, but probably not as efficient
It depends. ORD and MDW work pretty well in Chicago. SW dominates MDW. AA and UA generally dominate ORD.

Ohare has a ton of airlines. 

Midway airlines:


(https://i.imgur.com/BdGnwMu.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on June 27, 2023, 08:43:15 AM
Orlando is MCO because at the time the airfield was built, it was named McCoy Air Force Base.

ORL is in Paris.

Paine Field in Everett is going to be a smashing success because it's a bear to drive to SeaTac at most hours of the day from anywhere north of the Lake Washington Ship Canal. 

There was much discussion in the late 80s and early 90s about building a new MSP airport out in either Coates or as a substantial addition to the Anoka Airport in Blaine. This discussion was happening at the same time that Dick Ames was getting rich doing the dirtwork for the new Denver airport. In hindsight, he may have been the one driving the discussion. After much wailing and gnashing of teeth, Northwest Airlines shot that idea down, and MSP has been building on the current footprint ever since. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2023, 08:44:45 AM
I like flying into Love Field in Dallas

my brother lives a few minutes from DFW, but will drive 45 minutes to Love
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2023, 08:45:33 AM
Any second airport would be 50 miles north of downtown and you would have to have a rail connection.


thought you weren't a huge fan of rails?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2023, 08:59:32 AM
thought you weren't a huge fan of rails?
I think intercity high speed rail has major issues in the US, Brightline in Florida might work OK, it's not quite HSR in my view.  MARTA works reasonably well despite the criticism and the fact the full plan was never built ($$$).  They "could" extend MARTA from its ending point to where the second airport would be, in fact, they would have to do it.  Right now, the land is "woods", which is fine with me to leave it be.  

It could make more sense, maybe, to build up an airport in some nearby city, Columbus/Chattanooga/Augusta/Bham.  Or build one designed for changing planes entirely somewhere in the SE.  I dunno if that would be practicable.  It would be in the sticks.  There is a civil aviation airport in Dekalb now that handles private jets, but again, no room around it.  I don't think there is a viable solution really.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on June 27, 2023, 09:24:03 AM
It could make more sense, maybe, to build up an airport in some nearby city, Columbus/Chattanooga/Augusta/Bham.  Or build one designed for changing planes entirely somewhere in the SE.  I dunno if that would be practicable.  It would be in the sticks.  There is a civil aviation airport in Dekalb now that handles private jets, but again, no room around it.  I don't think there is a viable solution really.
Is the international terminal connected to the rest of the terminal by tram? I seem to recall that the east end of Hartsfield was underutilized.

Rail connections are very important in places where driving shouldn't be done, like Chicago, Washington, and San Francisco. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2023, 09:33:03 AM
Is the international terminal connected to the rest of the terminal by tram? I seem to recall that the east end of Hartsfield was underutilized.
Yes, the "Plane Train" connects everything, but if you aren't throught security, you have to take a bus.  The east end, the International Terminal, USED to be underutilized, but now it's a flat mess, the infrastructure is not available to support it, parking is always full causing a traffic jam, and only two lanes go to the departure level.  I used to love using it when nobody was there, often there would be more gate agents than passengers, no longer.  And it only has 11 gates.


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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 27, 2023, 09:56:03 AM
That is certainly not up to snuff for a large international airport.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2023, 10:03:33 AM
I think folks like us who couldn't travel for about 18 months are making up for lost time, so everything is crunched today, all of it, security lines, rental cars, gate agents, full planes, I'm more amazed it works as well as it does than anything.

We're lucky not to have to drive much, my wife drives to pilates and that is problematic but only 3 miles or so.  I tend to forget how bad traffic is until I have to drive someone to the airport.  It's a $35 taxi fare, more for Lyft/Uber most of the time.  We pay $0.70 per ride on MARTA which takes about 25 minutes to walk to a station and then 25 minutes to the airport.  My wife doesn't care for it, but ....

We take the taxi if we're headed to Europe and have a ton of luggage.

Expanding MARTA would help, but the outer counties don't want it, and it's expensive to build more of course.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on June 27, 2023, 10:11:39 AM
Since, I live West, I am almost always flying east when I go, I try my best to get the red eye.  Generally SkyHarbor isn't too bad that time of night.

Coming back from my last trip last saturday arriving in mid-afternoon was a shit-show.  Can't remember the last time I saw it that busy. But then I generally don't fly on a Saturday. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2023, 10:21:02 AM
We have a red eye back from SD after Christmas, I think it's January 1.  We're doing Hawaii and then SD where the grandkids are now.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2023, 10:26:47 AM
Dallas and Houston are exploding, Atlanta is growing fast.  Four of the top ten are declining.  Phoenix is growing fast.


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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 27, 2023, 02:56:33 PM


It could make more sense, maybe, to build up an airport in some nearby city, Columbus/Chattanooga/Augusta/Bham.  Or build one designed for changing planes entirely somewhere in the SE.  I dunno if that would be practicable.  It would be in the sticks.  There is a civil aviation airport in Dekalb now that handles private jets, but again, no room around it.  I don't think there is a viable solution really.
Augusta would make sense, as it's halfway between Atlanta and Charlotte.  
Plus it helps out with the Masters, UGA, and access to the S.Carolina coast and Savannah.  



Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 27, 2023, 03:08:10 PM
Augusta would make sense, as it's halfway between Atlanta and Charlotte. 
Plus it helps out with the Masters, UGA, and access to the S.Carolina coast and Savannah. 




Good point, but you can get to DC, Charlotte, Dallas and Atlanta through Augusta now. AA and Delta in in there. Maybe 20 flights per day if I remember right.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2023, 03:28:26 PM
I would study the concept of building an airport in the middle of nowhere, maybe between Macon and Savannah, and link it to ATL with HSR.  The idea would be to use it for changing planes and little else.  This probably doesn't work though.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2023, 04:10:41 PM
HSR with what time invested?

more than 10 minutes?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 27, 2023, 04:42:34 PM
I would study the concept of building an airport in the middle of nowhere, maybe between Macon and Savannah, and link it to ATL with HSR.  The idea would be to use it for changing planes and little else.  This probably doesn't work though.
It's interesting, but I see some issues...


What makes more sense IMHO is to pick a potentially underserved 2nd-tier (or even 3rd-tier) city and work to really expand that airport and turn it into a hub for several airlines...

...but I suspect that's somewhat already happening/happened. Charlotte isn't a huge city; it became a hub. SLC isn't a huge city; it's a hub. Cincinnati isn't a huge city; it's a hub.

So think about places that could fit. I'd argue you want it to be centrally located in the US. You want it to be big ENOUGH that it's going to generate some of its own traffic, i.e. Cedar Rapids International Airport (where I've flown into and got stuck lol) wouldn't qualify. 

Kansas City or Oklahoma City would be good candidates in my opinion. Nashville or Louisville could work (a bit more Eastern), maybe Albuquerque (a bit more West). They're all far enough south that they probably wouldn't get crushed by winter weather.


But I'm not sure that the economics nor the logistics work out to just shove a major airport in the middle of nowhere. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2023, 04:46:30 PM
  • Hotels and other infrastructure. What if a bunch of flights get cancelled due to weather and people need someplace to go?
if it's a 10 minute HSR ride, they go back to the city.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 27, 2023, 04:55:16 PM
if it's a 10 minute HSR ride, they go back to the city.
If it's a 10 minute HSR ride, it's not the middle of nowhere. 

And who pays for the HSR ride? If the employees have to pay for it, you'd better pay them enough to make it worth their while. If they get "free" ridership, well then it's paid for the same way (by the airport) but without filtering through the employee pockets. Either way it's an added cost. 

The Stockholm airport is about 30 miles north of the city center. Their rail from the airport to the city center takes 18 minutes, and maxes out at 200 kph (about 125 mph). 

And of course for a commuting worker, they need to get to wherever that HSR terminus is--which is probably not within easy distance of where they live if they're making an airport worker's salary. 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 28, 2023, 07:11:26 AM
My notion is pretty flawed, as you note above, and it wouldn't be any 10 minute HSR ride.  It takes 10 minutes to ride the Plane Train from one end of the current airport to the other.  I was figuring 100 miles SE of Atlanta.  Cancellations would be a major issue, missed flights, etc.  The original proposal would have been about 60 miles north of Atlanta near Dawsonville.  I'm not seeing anything that would really work.  The hub and spoke model means airports in places like Augusta and Columbus would stay minor.

They spent $1.4 billion on the International Terminal with only 12 gates, it's astounding really.  And now it's jammed at the end of the day, not in the AM apparently.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 28, 2023, 07:59:47 AM
It's interesting, but I see some issues...

  • Workers. If it's in the middle of nowhere, who works there?
  • Supply chain. You're going to need a bunch of goods, food, alcohol that all needs to be available. Easier [or hopefully cheaper] to do that near a city.
  • Hotels and other infrastructure. What if a bunch of flights get cancelled due to weather and people need someplace to go?
  • Airlines -- to make it work you need airlines who are going to make it a "hub". Which can work, but it might be a chicken/egg issue.

What makes more sense IMHO is to pick a potentially underserved 2nd-tier (or even 3rd-tier) city and work to really expand that airport and turn it into a hub for several airlines...

...but I suspect that's somewhat already happening/happened. Charlotte isn't a huge city; it became a hub. SLC isn't a huge city; it's a hub. Cincinnati isn't a huge city; it's a hub.

So think about places that could fit. I'd argue you want it to be centrally located in the US. You want it to be big ENOUGH that it's going to generate some of its own traffic, i.e. Cedar Rapids International Airport (where I've flown into and got stuck lol) wouldn't qualify.

Kansas City or Oklahoma City would be good candidates in my opinion. Nashville or Louisville could work (a bit more Eastern), maybe Albuquerque (a bit more West). They're all far enough south that they probably wouldn't get crushed by winter weather.


But I'm not sure that the economics nor the logistics work out to just shove a major airport in the middle of nowhere.
This is happening now at the Punta Gorda airport (PGD). First Allegiant came in, and now Sun Country is in. PGD is expanding to accommodate more.

We can get to RSW or SRQ in 45 min to an hour, but we really like flying out of PGD.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 28, 2023, 08:03:32 AM
Cincinnati is no longer a hub at all.  They are down something like 70% in flights in and out, and have demolished two of their terminal buildings.  It used to be a hub, 2008/9 took care of that (Delta).  

Maybe some other airport like say Bham could expand some and attract more of a hub thing?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on June 28, 2023, 09:15:42 AM
You just described how Memphis was positioned. Northwest's hubs were Motown, Snowtown, and No-town. It is no longer a hub. 

The closest thing that exists to a remote airport connected to the city by other transport is the new Denver Airport. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 28, 2023, 09:23:44 AM

The closest thing that exists to a remote airport connected to the city by other transport is the new Denver Airport.
Gatwick.  DeGaulle is pretty remote also, maybe 30 miles.  There is some airport in Ireland that was built to be remote as I recall, starts with a G.

Before Cincy was built, the concept was to build one between Cincy and Dayton, which would have made a lot of sense, but Kentucky won the day, so the Cincy airport is in Kentucky (CVG = Covington).  It too is fairly remote, it was a 35 miles drive for us, across the Ohio, which could be problematic so I'd often go around on I-275 which was closer to a 50 mile drive.  No trains.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 28, 2023, 09:26:56 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZasFHAQ.png)
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 28, 2023, 10:56:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/oZ0E6SX.png)
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Post by: FearlessF on June 28, 2023, 11:17:49 AM
what could go wrong?

the photographer may have been in a more perilous position
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 03, 2023, 08:11:03 AM
Airport was fast not too crowded 
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 03, 2023, 09:14:48 PM
Toronto airport is awful 
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 05, 2023, 11:30:54 AM
My kids’ 35th birthday, in Vancouver…
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 05, 2023, 11:58:09 AM
A little smokey outside here at the Gurnee, IL office.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 09, 2023, 09:16:22 AM
I'm back from five days in Vancouver, BC.  It was my twins's 35th Bday, one flew up from Columbus.  We had visited in November and I thought it a nice place, it's nicer in July (duh).  The news kept harping on how hot it was and they had "heat alerts", it broached 80°F a couple of days.  And it was warm in the sun often as not.

We did a lot of stuff, walked a lot, very nice city, my daughter lives in Yaletown about 4 blocks from where she works.  This basically is "downtown".  The area is mostly high rise apartment/condo buildings, 30-50 stories high on a peninsula with mountains visible to the north across the bay.  It is a large port city and has quite a bit of industry mostly separated from the residential areas.  There are quite a few "unhoused" folks, I saw some groups using drugs on the streets, mostly over near Chinatown.  I saw one tent encampment, nothing like the Tenderloin district in SF though, but worse than here by a good bit.    I know it rates high on "lists" of places to live and of course it is pricey, not so much for US visitors though.  Our hotel room was up there, over $400 a night (Hilton downtown).  It was a lot less in November.  We did get "free" bfast though ...

I'll post some photos later.

I think "WestJet" is the worst airline I've used in a LONG LONG time.  Their web site is painfully slow and useless and checkin was appallingly bad.  And we were in first coming back to ATL and there were no monitors anywhere, they did the safety brief by hand.  There is a major problem in ATL we managed because my daughter got caught in it when she visited last month.  You go through customs in Canada, but your luggage does not.  So, we had a domestic gate in ATL, but our luggage was in INTL.  You can take the train to INTL if you know about this, our stewardess told us to go to domestic luggage which was wrong.  But you leave security so you have to take a bus back and the lines are very long for said bus.  So, we couldn't take MARTA practicably and I just got a cab for $50.  Traffic was predictably bad of course.  I can't believe they don't inform folks where their luggage will be, or inform them incorrectly.  Catching those buses back is a real pain.  At least we got upgraded, the seats in the back are horrible, and no food on a 4.3 hour flight for them.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 16, 2023, 09:22:51 PM
The Well-Tempered Traveler shows year-round temperatures & precipitation levels for dozens of cities around the world.

https://www.google.com/welltemperedtraveler/ (https://www.google.com/welltemperedtraveler/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 17, 2023, 10:06:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/JP4GK57.png)
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Post by: GopherRock on July 17, 2023, 10:21:17 AM
Beginning to sort through my packing for South Korea, and balking at seeing nothing but 70 degree dewpoints for the next month.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 17, 2023, 10:38:22 AM
Beginning to sort through my packing for South Korea, and balking at seeing nothing but 70 degree dewpoints for the next month.
That is on my list. I'd like to do a cruise that includes Korea, Japan and Taiwan (assuming the CCP doesn't take it).

I think what we would do is stop in San Diego to see friends, then a few days in Hawaii, then to the port. Take the jet lag edge out of the trip.
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Post by: Riffraft on July 17, 2023, 11:02:55 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/JP4GK57.png)
Is this along the Amafi Coast.  One of the scariest drives I have ever been on. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 17, 2023, 11:52:40 AM
Going to the Sun road in Montana.  We missed it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 19, 2023, 12:24:12 PM
We strolled up to the botanical garden this morning ...

(https://i.imgur.com/g0895Qh.jpg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 19, 2023, 12:24:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lvEhsoL.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mRiOq6b.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 19, 2023, 12:25:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uq1U1Vu.jpg)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 23, 2023, 11:42:37 AM

I know Paris is really bad about PP.  I generally put a wallet in my back pocket full of paper, and carry a slim wallet in my front pocket with a loose credit card to pay for whatever, so I don't ever expose anything.  If you're out of the main tourist areas you usually will be OK.  If you notice a young gypsie looking girl approaching you, asking questions of any sort, or someone asks if you speak English, do not respond, walk the other way.


I bought "travel pants" from Costco. They have rear and side zippers.


One time in Florence were approached by a gypsy. I gave him a verbal beatdown and told him to leave us alone.

2 years later in Florence, we see him approaching again. He took a good look at me and said, "I remember you" and walked away.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 23, 2023, 03:43:35 PM
I just ignore them and walk away quickly, paying them no attention.  One gimmick they have is to scare you into reaching for your wallet so they know where it is.  I would not stand for 5 seconds having words with them ever.  Once you get away from the touristy areas they are not there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 24, 2023, 07:36:18 AM
This guy is at the Santa Maria Novella piazza.

The problem with this one is when you just keep walking, he follows you. 

Relentlessly.

Hence the verbal beatdown.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 24, 2023, 07:40:57 AM
Oh, I've never had anyone follow me.  They usually have a spot and move on to the next dude.
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Post by: CatsbyAZ on July 24, 2023, 11:29:50 AM
Comic Con down the street over the weekend:

(https://i.imgur.com/7vSQ5Me.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/Hs3Fm0E.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/OYfVVmB.jpg)


These next two were more unexpected - displays for That 70s Show and a miniature fairgrounds commemorating Roseanne. The former sponsored by LAFF Channel, the latter by COZI TV where their reruns are broadcasted. Not sure if anyone gets those channels.

(https://i.imgur.com/2eBk8XM.jpg)




(https://i.imgur.com/Cc5KVZN.png)


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Post by: utee94 on July 24, 2023, 01:55:51 PM
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 24, 2023, 02:26:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/plbV2mn.png)

Utee got a bit lost.
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Post by: GopherRock on July 24, 2023, 02:48:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/plbV2mn.png)

Utee got a bit lost.
https://youtu.be/tozRmtD_gsU
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Post by: FearlessF on July 28, 2023, 08:19:26 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on July 28, 2023, 08:28:47 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2023, 08:39:27 AM
Mine is easy, all but ND.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2023, 08:41:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/o1S9PO0.png)

Looks nice enough, but it is going to be rather hot today.  Already is.  I can see our unit!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on August 19, 2023, 05:29:12 PM
So the Mrs. and I got back from a long trip to South Korea last night. I have many, many thoughts that will take a while to fully comprehend. But if one picture summed up the weather during our time, it's this one. Even the pictographs were sweating.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 20, 2023, 11:18:36 AM
I stumbled across this, it's not bad, a bit dated in spots:

Atlanta – Travel guide at Wikivoyage (https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Atlanta)

This site could be useful for other cities you may visit.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 24, 2023, 09:34:54 AM
Amtrak's next-generation of rail cars is set to roll out to even more passengers than originally planned.

The U.S. rail carrier is ordering 10 more of its new Amtrak Airo trainsets to meet surging passenger demand, the rail carrier announced Monday.

The order brings Amtrak to 83 Amtrak Airo trains, which are set to debut in 2026 along various routes in the Northeast, spanning from Toronto to Miami.


"We're thrilled to satisfy the soaring demand for train travel with new state-of-the-art, American-made equipment that ensures the highest standards of comfort, service and amenities," Amtrak president Roger Harris said in a statement. "These new trainsets will help us get people where they need to go while reducing road and air congestion, creating jobs and supporting the American economy."

Passenger demand for rail travel has exceeded its expectations, according to Amtrak. In a CNBC interview on Monday, Harris said the rail carrier has seen increased ridership this summer as overall travel demand has grown.


In August, ridership along the Northeast Corridor — the carrier's busiest railroad — increased 12% from 2019, according to CNBC, despite experiencing mounting delays this summer caused largely by sweltering weather, an aging fleet and nationwide reconstruction projects.

"There's a renewed interest in rail," Harris said on CNBC.

The new trains are part of a multi-billion dollar project to upgrade Amtrak's existing infrastructure. Amtrak directly received $22 billion from the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which passed Congress in 2021. The act earmarked a total of $66 billion for freight and rail. The remaining $44 billion went toward the Federal Rail Administration for various passenger and freight upgrades, such as renovations for the Northeast Corridor's tunnels and bridges.


https://thepointsguy.com/news/amtrak-airo-growing-demand/ (https://thepointsguy.com/news/amtrak-airo-growing-demand/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on August 24, 2023, 10:44:51 AM
Some preliminary thoughts:

Jet lag has been kicking my ass ever since returning from Korea last Friday. Westbound the time change (10 hours going straight across the Date Line, 14 hours ahead from CDT to KST) was manageable, but coming back has been a bear. I feel like I've gone ten rounds with Mike Tyson in his prime.

This was both my wife and I's first trip to Asia. The biggest thing about this trip is that it removed a lot of mystery from Korea. Until we got out of customs at the Incheon Airport, Korea had always been this faraway place that almost had a mystical quality about it. As an adoptee, her relationship with Korea had always been, at minimum, complicated. Over the next two weeks, it was very eye opening to see Koreans doing normal things, and living life as normally as one can in a society that is as stratified as modern Korea is. 

Metropolitan Seoul has 26 million people living at densities that makes New York look like Green Acres. 

I have never seen so much black hair in one place as I did in a subway car during rush hour.

KBO baseball is a blast.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 24, 2023, 10:50:09 AM
Oof. The good news is you should be on the tail end of the jet lag. 

I always laugh at people who complain about how daylight savings time just completely screws up their internal clock. Yeah, try going to Asia for a week, having to perform during business meetings all day when your body thinks it should be asleep, then coming back and spending the next week reversed. You'll look at the daylight 1 hr time change in a whole new light lol. 

Korea I haven't been to. I'd say Japan is higher on my list, but after I cross that one off, perhaps one day I'll make it to Korea. Unfortunately when I was heading over there for work, I never had cause to make it to either place. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 24, 2023, 04:20:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ycJ5Nix.png)

1918, utee's dad.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 24, 2023, 04:37:54 PM
food truck Friday near Austin
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 24, 2023, 04:39:15 PM
I'm looking at a cruise around Japan with one stop in SK.  The problem is the flight out (and back).  One plan is to stop in Hawaii for a few days and then Tokyo.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 24, 2023, 04:40:40 PM
I'm not even flying as far as Hawaii ever again
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 24, 2023, 04:52:31 PM
My worst was Toronto to Dubai last year.  In the back.

We just got out flight to London in October through the cruise line, they are on Delta this time where we are both Pt.

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Post by: LetsGoPeay on August 25, 2023, 09:25:51 AM
Istanbul to Chicago was brutal.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 25, 2023, 09:28:26 AM
Istanbul to Chicago was brutal.
We almost did that one time. Turkish Airlines was the cheapest way to get to Rome, but we would have had to go through Istanbul first. F that.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 25, 2023, 09:39:11 AM
We did Turkish coming home from Istanbul to ATL.  That actually wasn't as bad as I expected.  I think I slept a bit, which is rare for me on a plane.  We now have Delta to NYC then Gatwick for our next cruise.  The cruise line sets us up with flights, in the back, for $1100, both of us.  I can take some pain for that deal.  NYC to Gatwick is not that bad.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 25, 2023, 10:10:30 AM
NYC to Gatwick is not that bad.
relatively
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 25, 2023, 10:54:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/umxugww.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 25, 2023, 01:16:23 PM
The longest road in the World: The Panamericana Route which begins in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, and stretches all the way down to Ushuaia, Argentina. All in all, the road covers 30,000 km (19,000 miles)



(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/368264140_745795700888697_2104844488295086603_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=DgCAcOR5Q7MAX-ZuFgf&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAHNciATvEFqevAu3fwf1Rau6kEgetRBZdeOo14iPMDmw&oe=64ED5DEC)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on August 25, 2023, 01:33:52 PM
The longest road in the World: The Panamericana Route which begins in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, and stretches all the way down to Ushuaia, Argentina. All in all, the road covers 30,000 km (19,000 miles)



(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/368264140_745795700888697_2104844488295086603_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=DgCAcOR5Q7MAX-ZuFgf&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAHNciATvEFqevAu3fwf1Rau6kEgetRBZdeOo14iPMDmw&oe=64ED5DEC)


Except for the notorious Darien Gap, in which no roads exist. https://www.themanual.com/outdoors/darien-gap-feature/
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 25, 2023, 01:55:04 PM
be careful out there!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on August 25, 2023, 05:36:23 PM
My older brother spent two years in South Korea while in Army.  He loved it.  I thought he might stay 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 25, 2023, 06:02:43 PM
but, he craved Runza
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 30, 2023, 09:02:10 AM
Homeland Security: Check Airport Wait Times

"Travelers can find a wealth of information including crowd-sourced airport security wait times at our mobile My TSA application. Here, you will be able to check and post airport delays reported by fellow travelers in real time, confirm what items you can bring through security and review other tips for travelers from TSA. Those crossing land borders can consult the Border Wait Time application, which is available for mobile phones and also features RSS feeds."

https://www.dhs.gov/check-wait-times (https://www.dhs.gov/check-wait-times)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 10, 2023, 07:11:03 PM
Best restaurants on the San Antonio Riverwalk?

Go. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 11, 2023, 08:06:30 AM
I think, with some exceptions, any "touristy place" will not have good restaurants.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2023, 08:13:08 AM
well, it will certainly draw many restaurants, because many hungry people

doesn't mean there can't be some VERY good restaurants
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on September 11, 2023, 08:19:55 AM
I think, with some exceptions, any "touristy place" will not have good restaurants.
Well if they'd let me eat over the sink I wouldn't have to settle for these touristy joints
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 11, 2023, 08:23:42 AM
I think a restaurant in a touristy spot doesn't have to be good to succeed.  They get plenty of foot traffic anyway, so they can be mediocre, or decent but expensive.  They don't rely on repeat business.  I found this to be true in Paris, though there are some good places in TS, but they are expensive.

We stayed a couple nights right on River Walk and I don't recall finding a place nearby that was notable.  They can be decent, but I have better success "around the corner".
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 03, 2023, 09:42:36 PM
https://www.earthcam.com/ (https://www.earthcam.com/)

"EarthCam is the leading network of live webcams and offers the most comprehensive search engine of internet cameras from around the world."
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on October 04, 2023, 11:20:53 AM
Best restaurants on the San Antonio Riverwalk?

Go.
As has been stated, most of them are really touristy and not particularly good.  How many meals/recs do you need?

Just off the Riverwalk near the Alamo, there's a Yard House, which you are probably familiar with.  It's a national chain of course, but it still has the best beer selection you'll find nearby.  Food is decent for what it is.

About a mile from the Riverwalk near the "Mercado" is a Tex-Mex restaurant and bakery named "Mi Tierra" but although it is pretty touristy, it's also quite tasty.  It's pretty famous, gets really busy, but I recommend it for both the food and the experience.

Oh, and if you get a chance definitely grab a drink at the bar of the Menger Hotel, which is right next to the Alamo.  It's an old, famous bar in an old, famous hotel.  Teddy Roosevelt recruited the roughriders there, allegedly.






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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 04, 2023, 11:31:14 AM
Thanks. 

We made reservations at Biga's, which looks decent. 

Only staying at the Riverwalk one night, then staying with the in-laws at their house for the rest of the trip. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on October 04, 2023, 11:41:14 AM
Coolio, Biga looks good, definitely let us know how it is.

I'd be all over that antelope and quail dish.  Wild game is really big in South Texas.

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Post by: Cincydawg on October 05, 2023, 08:27:54 AM
I get photos from various National Parks on my FB feed, and Zion remains one of my favorites.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 05, 2023, 02:23:35 PM
The middle of France is worth a visit, get outside Paris some.  This is a neat spot, that bridge is a canal, built over the River Loire in the late 19th century.  Napoleon was responsible for a lot of canal building (not this one) during his tenure, most of which still exist.




(https://i.imgur.com/iDgn01m.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fA8CHti.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2023, 08:54:55 AM
No go to list (among others)

(https://i.imgur.com/pBg6UCw.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 09, 2023, 08:57:13 AM
can we get a ranking, please?

and I don't see CHINA or north korea
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2023, 08:58:44 AM
No go to list (among others)


Note.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2023, 09:35:36 AM
We're off for England tomorrow for our cruise around the island, with a stop in Northern Ireland and regular Ireland, and tours of the Loch Ness and Stonehenge (both of which I was informed are not that impressive).  Going through NYC to Gatwick, over night flight.  Then a "cab" to Southhampton for two days before departing.

I'm taking the full camera kit, not sure if I'll get any good photos of course, going to be drizzly and chilly.  For such adventures a good phone is probably enough.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 09, 2023, 10:23:43 AM
We're off for England tomorrow for our cruise around the island, with a stop in Northern Ireland and regular Ireland, and tours of the Loch Ness and Stonehenge (both of which I was informed are not that impressive).  Going through NYC to Gatwick, over night flight.  Then a "cab" to Southhampton for two days before departing.

I'm taking the full camera kit, not sure if I'll get any good photos of course, going to be drizzly and chilly.  For such adventures a good phone is probably enough.
Awesome!

If you have any notables in Ireland that are must-see, let me know. We're headed to Texas this week to see my wife's mom & stepdad, and one of the goals of the trip is to start planning an Ireland trip with them in 2024. About all we really plan to nail down is whether we want to do spring or fall, so even after you return we'll have plenty of time to get the details in order...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2023, 10:30:00 AM
We signed up for tours off the boat, they can be decent (or not so great).  We'll see what we see, duh.  My wife is pretty excited, I'm like OK with it all.

The next cruise is going to be Japan and South Korea with 6 days in Tokyo beforehand, will be a rough flight.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on October 09, 2023, 10:48:43 AM
The middle of France is worth a visit, get outside Paris some.  This is a neat spot, that bridge is a canal, built over the River Loire in the late 19th century.  Napoleon was responsible for a lot of canal building (not this one) during his tenure, most of which still exist.



(https://i.imgur.com/fA8CHti.jpg)
Is that a canal above a river, almost like a Roman Aqueduct?    
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2023, 10:55:12 AM
Yes, see preceding photo, it's over the Loire River.  It's still in use for pleasure boating.  You can travel pretty far in France with a boat or barge.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 11, 2023, 06:09:14 PM
Riverwalk view at the hotel.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on October 11, 2023, 10:32:33 PM
I'm Leaf peeping in Maine this week.  Biking all over Mt. Desert Island at Acadia.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 12, 2023, 03:01:05 PM
Indian food here is great. Duh
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 13, 2023, 05:31:28 AM
Waiting to board. They do a good job getting folks registered. Weather not good  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on October 13, 2023, 07:16:11 AM
Wake up!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2023, 08:26:19 AM
I had some great Indian food when I traveled to Lincoln, NE last week.

(https://i.imgur.com/nDc9ZAS.jpg)
Spicy lamb at the Oven in the Haymarket
it was spicy!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 15, 2023, 07:16:11 AM
Had 70 mph winds last night ship was rocking 93,000 tons.  In Edinburg 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 15, 2023, 08:44:53 AM
We've experienced some very high seas while crossing over. Not fun but not terrible.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 16, 2023, 03:59:57 AM
Headed to Loch Ness. Captain said we had 85 knot winds



Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 16, 2023, 07:59:32 AM
sounds great
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 16, 2023, 08:02:38 AM
The ship was bouncing around. My wife was worried. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 16, 2023, 08:03:36 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/iXwGkNc.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 16, 2023, 08:11:05 AM
Headed to Loch Ness. Captain said we had 85 knot winds




74 MPH.

North Sea??
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on October 16, 2023, 09:44:54 AM
We had to return to gate to have a whacky passenger removed.   She was a problem (not drunken)  at the gate area freaking out about boarding timing.   She wouldn't put her bag in the overhead.  

Attendants handled it marvelously. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 16, 2023, 10:18:53 AM
free entertainment
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on October 16, 2023, 10:26:03 AM
Spent a few days in a cabin in the Smoky Mountains and emerged engaged. We did a nice little hike up to Hen Wallow Falls on the "quiet side" of the Great Smoky Mountain National Park (AKA the side not by Gatlinburg). That's where I popped the question. We also visited Ruby Falls and Mammoth Cave in Kentucky. I'd never been to either.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 16, 2023, 10:28:40 AM
Spent a few days in a cabin in the Smoky Mountains and emerged engaged. We did a nice little hike up to Hen Wallow Falls on the "quiet side" of the park (AKA the side not by Gatlinburg. That's where I popped the question. We also visited Ruby Falls and Mammoth Cave in Kentucky. I'd never been to either.
Congratulations!!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on October 16, 2023, 10:29:35 AM
Spent a few days in a cabin in the Smoky Mountains and emerged engaged. We did a nice little hike up to Hen Wallow Falls on the "quiet side" of the Great Smoky Mountain National Park (AKA the side not by Gatlinburg. That's where I popped the question. We also visited Ruby Falls and Mammoth Cave in Kentucky. I'd never been to either.
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 16, 2023, 11:08:33 AM
a buddy of mine from Des Moines is headed to Gatlinburg

I've never been to the area
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 16, 2023, 11:33:47 AM
It's a great area.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2023, 11:38:32 AM
Spent a few days in a cabin in the Smoky Mountains and emerged engaged. We did a nice little hike up to Hen Wallow Falls on the "quiet side" of the Great Smoky Mountain National Park (AKA the side not by Gatlinburg). That's where I popped the question. We also visited Ruby Falls and Mammoth Cave in Kentucky. I'd never been to either.
Congrats!

Is she also a Hoosier fan? If not, does she understand what level of despair she's marrying into? :57:

If not, can I recommend some new apparel?


(https://i.imgur.com/qZMJzwV.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on October 16, 2023, 01:17:27 PM
a buddy of mine from Des Moines is headed to Gatlinburg

I've never been to the area

Gatlinburg itself can be a bit of a sh*tshow. Once you get there it's a lot of fun, if that's what you're looking for. It's a small town that has grown into a massive tourist trap but still has small-town infrastructure. I prefer to stay out in the mountains and then venture in for a day. You have to plan your timing carefully because traffic can be atrocious. This was our cabin and it was perfect for our stay. We grilled steaks and corn on the cob the first night then just chilled in the hot tub. 

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/747875992008898508?guests=1&adults=1&s=67&unique_share_id=be2e2067-85eb-433c-bbfa-52294de65258
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 16, 2023, 06:27:48 PM
I try not to be a tourist or hang out with them
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 22, 2023, 02:43:52 PM
Last night on ship. Flight out tomorrow. Didn’t get engaged. Congratulations. Intoon board awful. Saw Stonehenge. Sorta ok. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 23, 2023, 04:31:34 AM
Heathrow seemed to be a madhouse but we got through it all quickly. Quite efficient and no TSA of course. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 23, 2023, 08:06:23 AM
Drove pas the new Sphere in Vegas.  Looks small from afar, looks huge right next to it.  Perspective, huh?

They had some detours around it due to setting up for a Grand Prix race.  That would be cool, racing around Vegas like that....too bad they're going too fast to enjoy any of it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2023, 08:36:33 AM
We've kinda made a decision that we will not travel internationally for a while. 

We have a chance to go to Rome and Munich next year very cheaply, but I don't think we will do it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 23, 2023, 09:10:10 AM
me either ;)

I'd rather visit friends in Florida
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2023, 09:25:51 AM
Surely.

We are going to Cabo in January, but we booked that 18 months ago. It's paid for.

Doesn't seem like International though. We rent a house and almost never leave it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on October 23, 2023, 10:24:22 AM
We've kinda made a decision that we will not travel internationally for a while.

We have a chance to go to Rome and Munich next year very cheaply, but I don't think we will do it.
Already have plans to go to the eastern mediterrean next October, including Israel & Egypt.  Wife wants to cancel, I say give it time before cancelling, things will settle down again.  Can always cancel as it gets closer.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2023, 11:15:48 AM
Already have plans to go to the eastern mediterrean next October, including Israel & Egypt.  Wife wants to cancel, I say give it time before cancelling, things will settle down again.  Can always cancel as it gets closer.
I don't believe that at all. This is just a start. That area is a war zone, and it will only get worse.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 23, 2023, 12:59:36 PM
Planning for Ireland next fall. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on October 23, 2023, 02:25:36 PM
Our current plan is Croatia and Greece in June.  We'll see...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 23, 2023, 04:23:10 PM
I don't believe that at all. This is just a start. That area is a war zone, and it will only get worse.
no one knows when things will heat up or cool down
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 24, 2023, 10:52:16 AM
In the past, Israeli conflicts have been largely contained and short lived though a few dragged out of this general ilk with "terrorists".

I can't quite see why anyone else would want to get involved, even Hezbollah.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 24, 2023, 10:53:38 AM
Good to be back, our Internet was down until recently for whatever reason.  We slept pretty well.  Nice weather here.  Dunno why we leave.  Next cruise is Japan and Korea in March.

I'm still pondering how such a huge ship could be whipped around like that.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 24, 2023, 06:40:37 PM
I continue to be struck by our wealth here in the US, particularly with respect to housing.  Ireland seemed quite poor, and I think it is relatively.  England also seems relatively poor.  Their middle class don't live like we do.

I'm also struck by how obese many of us are, especially o a cruise.  I lost weight, yay.  We did not do the "beverage package", which in fact costs about $85 per day.  I bought two bottles of wine when we went to the upscale restaurants and had a few beers in Scotland and Ireland.  And a bit of Jamison.

We saw a fairly large protest in Cork, free Palestine etc.  I guess they want the Jews to F off?

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 24, 2023, 07:01:01 PM
I'm also struck by how obese many of us are, especially o a cruise.
I will say, I have met obese people in my travels in Europe. 

They mostly speak perfect [American] English. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on October 24, 2023, 08:46:33 PM
I will say, I have met obese people in my travels in Europe.

They mostly speak perfect [American] English.

Europeans are definitely getting fatter every time I've visited, going back to my first trip in 1994.  Our export of McDonald's is doing work.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 09:52:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/e3jqXig.png)

If you get a chance to visit Zion, come euipped for some wading.  Two poles are useful, the ground under the water is uneven and then some, and figure on getting wet, it's no biggie.

It's one of the most interesting beautiful areas I've ever seen.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 10:35:13 AM
My TSA clearance is coming up next year, and my Amex says they pay for Global Entry which includes TSA, so I just applied.

That is one of the longest applications I've ever completed.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2023, 10:47:00 AM
Absolutely LOVE Global Entry.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 10:52:34 AM
We were in line for Customs Monday and the Global Entry line was almost as long as the regular.

We got through in Gatwick in a couple minutes with no humans involved.  Scan passports and bing, you're done.

In Atlanta, if your plane goes to a gate in E Terminal, you have to walk 30 minutes to get to customs on F terminal, no train.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on October 25, 2023, 10:55:01 AM
I had Global Entry back when I traveled a lot more.  Now, I've only been on 1 flight since 2019.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 25, 2023, 10:55:20 AM
a 30 minute walk???

no thanks

there's no need for me to get that much exercise 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 10:59:18 AM
Yeah, it's bad after a nine hour flight.  They have about six moving sidewalks that help a bit.

The International terminal doesn't have enough gates.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
International terminal at ORD sucks terribly. Same thing - very long walks to customs if you are on a US airline. If you are on a foreign airline, well, they get the better (closer) gates.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on October 25, 2023, 12:31:58 PM
International terminal at ORD sucks terribly. Same thing - very long walks to customs if you are on a US airline. If you are on a foreign airline, well, they get the better (closer) gates.
Absolutely terrible system there. I strongly disliked coming from international travel into ORD. That being said, it is also the place that someone there did one of the kindest things ever in my life and got me through customs onto my next flight home and I was able to see a family member before they passed a couple hours later. If i would have missed the flight, i wouldn't have made it on time after 23 hours of flights.

I personally also wouldn't touch Europe or anywhere remotely close to the middle east right now. SE Asia is a place incredibly underrated. Long flights, but if people can tackle that, it's worth it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2023, 12:34:54 PM
Absolutely terrible system there. I strongly disliked coming from international travel into ORD. That being said, it is also the place that someone there did one of the kindest things ever in my life and got me through customs onto my next flight home and I was able to see a family member before they passed a couple hours later. If i would have missed the flight, i wouldn't have made it on time after 23 hours of flights.

I personally also wouldn't touch Europe or anywhere remotely close to the middle east right now. SE Asia is a place incredibly underrated. Long flights, but if people can tackle that, it's worth it.
You've long talked about that region.

Where in particular do you recommend? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 25, 2023, 12:47:16 PM
We ended up doing TSA Precheck instead of Global Entry b/c we don't travel international very often, and I think the closest place to do the in-person stuff was Port of Long Beach or LAX. Instead we could do TSA Precheck at the Orange County airport. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on October 25, 2023, 12:47:26 PM
Depends on how much time someone has. If it's just a week or so, I would do Thailand. Fly into bangkok, give that a day or two, then head out to Phuket or Krabi areas.. Also I would go to Railey Beach.. Still one of my favorites and the food in the area was amazingly good, especially the italian restaurant. Can't miss a boat trip to the Phi Phi Island. Still the most beautiful water and area I've ever seen. Makes the carribean look mediocre which is shocking.

If someone had 8-10 days, I'd fit in going up to Chiang Mai and visiting the elephant reserve. The interactions with elephants and the experience of bathing them in a river in such a remote area of the world is unreal.

Now if timeline is a couple weeks lol.. People should fit in Cambodia, go to Siem Reap, Angkor Wat nad Phnom Penh. If budget isn't a factor, then definitely head into Singapore for a couple days. Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Myanmar, Laos.. All those would be low on the list. Vietnam definitely has some beautiful coastal areas, but still a lot of impact there from the Vietnam war. US passports not loved still in some areas. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2023, 12:49:31 PM
What's wrong with Malaysia? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2023, 12:50:36 PM
We ended up doing TSA Precheck instead of Global Entry b/c we don't travel international very often, and I think the closest place to do the in-person stuff was Port of Long Beach or LAX. Instead we could do TSA Precheck at the Orange County airport.
Do you know that once you do it, you don't need to go back? Renewals are all on line.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on October 25, 2023, 01:18:14 PM
We ended up doing TSA Precheck instead of Global Entry b/c we don't travel international very often, and I think the closest place to do the in-person stuff was Port of Long Beach or LAX. Instead we could do TSA Precheck at the Orange County airport.
John Wayne is my favorite airport in the entire USA.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 02:25:35 PM
We're slated to head to Paris and London with a symphony group, the maestro is conducting there and wanted some HFA.  We'll fly into Marseille as it's cheaper than Paris, and the step daughter lives there.  I'm not much of a London fan.  I guess I'm not much of a Paris fan either relative to its rep.

We booked a cruise for Japan/SK in March.  The flight will be brutal.  And Hawaii in December, then San Diego.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 25, 2023, 02:30:23 PM
Do you know that once you do it, you don't need to go back? Renewals are all on line.
Ahh good to know. Maybe we'll switch to Global Entry next time. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on October 25, 2023, 03:03:50 PM
International terminal at ORD sucks terribly. Same thing - very long walks to customs if you are on a US airline. If you are on a foreign airline, well, they get the better (closer) gates.
It was a long damn walk to customs when we came back from our honeymoon on Lufthansa to ORD. Fortunately, United staff knew our flight was late from Frankfurt and hustled us through customs and the transfer bus so we could make our connection to Detroit. 

Delta at Kennedy is the same way. LONG walk to customs. Also, Precheck gains you nothing at the Delta terminal. Everyone had to wait in the long queue maze. 

Also, don't fly Delta into O'Hare if possible. They go out of the international terminal, and it's a pain in the ass to get into the city from that terminal.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on October 25, 2023, 03:04:38 PM


We booked a cruise for Japan/SK in March.  The flight will be brutal.  And Hawaii in December, then San Diego.
The flight will be brutal there, but the time change will get it's pound of flesh on the way back. Total beating. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2023, 04:04:29 PM
If we were to do that trip, we'd probably split it up. Maybe Long Beach to see some family, then Hawaii, then Japan. Then probably Hawaii again on the way back. Just have to deal with Hawaii to DFW and then home, which is tough enough.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2023, 04:06:05 PM
It was a long damn walk to customs when we came back from our honeymoon on Lufthansa to ORD. Fortunately, United staff knew our flight was late from Frankfurt and hustled us through customs and the transfer bus so we could make our connection to Detroit.

Delta at Kennedy is the same way. LONG walk to customs. Also, Precheck gains you nothing at the Delta terminal. Everyone had to wait in the long queue maze.

Also, don't fly Delta into O'Hare if possible. They go out of the international terminal, and it's a pain in the ass to get into the city from that terminal.
No more buses at ORD. The tram is finally done after a 3 year delay. I could explain the delay if anyone cares to know about it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on October 25, 2023, 04:07:06 PM
What's wrong with Malaysia?
Nothing wrong with it at all. Been a few times and enjoyed my time there. KL is a cool city. It's just if time is limited and you're going to be in a city, i'd go Singapore first. If you were going to spend time outside a city and outdoors, i'd go Thailand and Cambodia first.. That's just me. That said, I don't think anyone would regret spending time in Malaysia either. SE Asia is simply a beautiful part of the world. Although some of it is heartbreakingly poor.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 04:12:15 PM
The flight to Japan and back from Seoul cost me $1800, for both of us through NCL.  I can't come anywhere close to that of course. So, I'll sit in the back and be uncomfortable, and probably walk the aisles a few times.  I'm pretty sure it will  be Air Canada through Toronto.

The cabin is about $9 K for ten days.  It's not an interior one, the wife likes her perks.  And I'll spend more on excursions.  I'm told if we book one through the cruise company they will not leave without us, and on the last cruise we had two excursions cancelled due to weather, and refunded.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on October 25, 2023, 04:13:19 PM
The flight will be brutal there, but the time change will get it's pound of flesh on the way back. Total beating.
I don't miss those flights. I made the mistake once of flying ORD to NRT. That was a bad mistake. 14 hours on a single flight was not fun. Even worse that it was only the second of three legs. Anyone flying out to that area, prepare yourself for some turbulence. I'm not sure what it is, but Narita and Hong Kong always seemed to have slightly uncomfortable turbulence.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on October 25, 2023, 04:19:28 PM
No more buses at ORD. The tram is finally done after a 3 year delay. I could explain the delay if anyone cares to know about it.
We used it this spring flying to a conference. 

I'm looking forward for the tram to be done at LAX. It can take as long to get into the terminal road from near the In n Out as it does to drive there from my in-laws family up in Thousand Oaks.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2023, 04:25:09 PM
LAX is on my list of terrible airports.

ORD is off that list now that the tram is done. I love being able to take that to the rental center and get picked up there. No need to get into the traffic at the terminals anymore.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 25, 2023, 04:27:16 PM
We used it this spring flying to a conference.

I'm looking forward for the tram to be done at LAX. It can take as long to get into the terminal road from near the In n Out as it does to drive there from my in-laws family up in Thousand Oaks.
Oh god LAX was hell a couple weeks ago. We were running a bit late after getting the dog dropped off for boarding, and I'm sitting there stressing already on the 405. But once we exited Century, everything was literally CRAWLING until Wally Park, where we leave the car. And then on the shuttle from parking to the terminal, was CRAWLING again. 

They say to check bags 45 minutes before your flight. I think we checked our bags 45:01 before the flight... 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 04:29:29 PM
Toronto has usurped DeGaulle in my book as worst airport.  I've been through Toronto five times now to change planes and it's just a complete disaster, their signage is atrocious and it's very poorly laid out, typical of old airports added on several times.  And it's dirty.  I think LAX got somewhat better with some new stuff.

I'm obviously used to Atlanta and it's laid out in regular fashion, except that bit about overseas planes arriving in Terminal E.  ATL was designed to facilitate changing planes.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 05:01:41 PM
We had an extra day at sea due to weather, and I asked my wife if she wanted to gamble a bit.  She does the slots, I gave her $20 which didn't last long.  I sat down at a blackjack table with four other bored guys and started winning, mostly.  After 30 minutes or so, I was up a bit, and cashed out, on $100 entry I now had $150.  My life entirely changed.

I've "won" at BJ maybe three times, and of course lost more than that, I usually start with $100 and by the time I'm down $50 I get bored with the inevitability of it all and quit, figuring I'm $50 ahead by not being $100 down.

It was kind of funny the last day, the weather was great and we toured the ship, finding lots of new places, especially outside.

I went and ran a bit today, I was glad to still be in "OK" shape, I hadn't lost much.  I threw some against a tennis wall and felt decent there as well.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on October 25, 2023, 06:09:25 PM
My TSA clearance is coming up next year, and my Amex says they pay for Global Entry which includes TSA, so I just applied.

That is one of the longest applications I've ever completed.
Love Global entry.  Even after the long app, you still have to do the in person interview.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on October 25, 2023, 06:14:44 PM
We had an extra day at sea due to weather, and I asked my wife if she wanted to gamble a bit.  She does the slots, I gave her $20 which didn't last long.  I sat down at a blackjack table with four other bored guys and started winning, mostly.  After 30 minutes or so, I was up a bit, and cashed out, on $100 entry I now had $150.  My life entirely changed.

I've "won" at BJ maybe three times, and of course lost more than that, I usually start with $100 and by the time I'm down $50 I get bored with the inevitability of it all and quit, figuring I'm $50 ahead by not being $100 down.

It was kind of funny the last day, the weather was great and we toured the ship, finding lots of new places, especially outside.

I went and ran a bit today, I was glad to still be in "OK" shape, I hadn't lost much.  I threw some against a tennis wall and felt decent there as well.
My last cruise, I was playing "let it ride"  Hit a straight flush last the last night and won $4,200 on a $21 bet was probably down a litttle bit or even before hitting. As soon as they finished verifying the deck of cards and paid me, I left the table.   Cruise line keeps offering to give me a free room to get me back, except I generally don't get interior cabins when I cruise.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 06:20:43 PM
I've never had an interior cabin, have looked at them through some open doors.  The one we get has a larger bathroom and balcony, the bath room has a separate toilet and a shower/bath combo.  We've never done any of the entertainment items at night, we're usually too tired to stay up.  I recall one on board casino that had restrictive blackjack rules, I didn't play.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 25, 2023, 06:55:45 PM
I've never had a single desire to cruise. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 25, 2023, 07:09:57 PM
I hadn't either really, I took my kids on a Carnival cruise because I thought they'd enjoy it, and they did.  Then I took my wife wondering if she'd like it.  For us, it's a chance to visit some places we'd probably not be able to visit otherwise, or wouldn't, in a week or two.  

The 18 day one we did in February was pretty special.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 26, 2023, 08:27:01 AM
I'd never do a Carnival Cruise again. Did it once and did not like it at all.

After that one, I told my wife that I'd never cruise again. 

Then, about 10 years later, she talked me into a 9 night Carribean with Azamara and I reluctantly agreed.

Really glad I agreed.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 26, 2023, 08:32:50 AM
Carnival I think is good if you have kids in the 8-16 range.  Otherwise, avoid it.

NCL doesn't have many kids at all on it.  A few couples had babies, and we saw the occasional teen, but rarely.

NCL is kind of akin to Delta Airlines, they usually get the basic job done OK.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 26, 2023, 08:48:46 AM
I didn't think I would enjoy a cruise, but went twice and enjoyed both

teenage daughters enjoyed the cruise but have not asked to do another.
I'm not planning to do another one either

unless, maybe Alaska
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 26, 2023, 09:09:16 AM
The cruises we like visit places we'd likely not see otherwise.  I didn't care for our Alaska cruise much at all.  It wasn't like the videos at all.

For us, it's a way to check on locations briefly and think about whether we'd return for a longer visit.  

So,next up is Japan and South Korea, then we're looking at Thailand/Vietnam/Singapore and maybe Argentina down to Antarctica.
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Post by: utee94 on October 26, 2023, 09:20:58 AM
We did Carnival with the kids when they were 6 and 8, and it was great. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 26, 2023, 09:38:41 AM
We were sucked into Carnival with no kids, and it was horrible.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 26, 2023, 09:39:59 AM
It's a bit like paying extra for "Economy Comfort" seats on a plane, you generally will not have kids/babies near you.

With Carnival, you can expect kids and teens and some ructions.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 26, 2023, 10:25:43 AM
If things cool off over there, we will consider doing these cruises next year.

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Followed by

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Post by: LetsGoPeay on October 26, 2023, 03:21:58 PM
I've been on Carnival, Royal Caribbean, and MSC. Carnival is the Walmart of cruise lines. I'd only do one again if it was free or extremely discounted. I like Royal Caribbean but for an adult-oriented cruise MSC was great. I did a solo Bahamas cruise with MSC last spring just to get away for a while. It was really nice. Just enough fun stuff to do but in a much more adult, relaxed, and semi-upscale atmosphere. I had an interior cabin. I only took it because it was cheap and I planned on spending no time other than sleeping in there. But I love a good balcony cabin. My fiance and I have booked another Bahamas cruise on MSC for next spring. We definitely got a balcony room for that. I love sitting out on the balcony of a cruise ship with some food and beverages and just watching the ocean go by. Plus, it's her first cruise and she's a little nervous about the potential of big crowds. Having the ability to just chill on the balcony and enjoy our time is a big selling point. 
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Post by: SuperMario on October 26, 2023, 03:27:03 PM


unless, maybe Alaska
Right there with you. I think that's the only one I would attempt. I was borderline to begin with, but when Covid hit and all those people were stuck on boats.. nope.. that ended my borderline desire.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 26, 2023, 03:32:57 PM
I've been on Carnival, Royal Caribbean, and MSC. Carnival is the Walmart of cruise lines. I'd only do one again if it was free or extremely discounted. I like Royal Caribbean but for an adult-oriented cruise MSC was great. I did a solo Bahamas cruise with MSC last spring just to get away for a while. It was really nice. Just enough fun stuff to do but in a much more adult, relaxed, and semi-upscale atmosphere. I had an interior cabin. I only took it because it was cheap and I planned on spending no time other than sleeping in there. But I love a good balcony cabin. My fiance and I have booked another Bahamas cruise on MSC for next spring. We definitely got a balcony room for that. I love sitting out on the balcony of a cruise ship with some food and beverages and just watching the ocean go by. Plus, it's her first cruise and she's a little nervous about the potential of big crowds. Having the ability to just chill on the balcony and enjoy our time is a big selling point.
I've been on Royal but not MSC. Royal was just OK. Been on Celebrity one time, after they were bought by Royal. It was also just OK. The line we use - Azamara - was bought by Celebrity, which was then bought by Royal. 

Azamara is back to being private now, which is better for us as far as I'm concerned. 

Despite that, we still have pretty high status with Celebrity and Royal, should we ever choose to use them again. Celebrity maybe, but not Royal. They are too big for what we like.

Azamara ships have a capacity of 700, with 450 crew. You are well taken care of on that line. Not quite Silver Seas, but up there.


Azamara Cruises | Award-Winning Small Ship Cruise Line (https://www.azamara.com/home)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 26, 2023, 03:36:03 PM
Right there with you. I think that's the only one I would attempt. I was borderline to begin with, but when Covid hit and all those people were stuck on boats.. nope.. that ended my borderline desire.
We were supposed to go from Lima, Peru to Miami - through the canal, which is high on my bucket list.

That cruise got cancelled, and the people who were on the ship from Argentina to Peru were not allowed to get off in Lima.

They got our cruise for free, minus the other stops or course. Bastages.

Oh, and they landed in Miami, tested everyone, and were ZERO Covid!!
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Post by: utee94 on October 26, 2023, 03:38:31 PM
I've been on RCI and Carnival.  No discernible difference to me.

The Carnival ship was one with the big waterpark on top, which is why we chose it, for the kids.  A Disney cruise would have been cool too, but they cost considerably more and my parents were footing the bill anyway, for their 50th wedding anniversary.  We had a great time, ate formal dinner at the same table every night with the same waitstaff, who were awesome.

I'd like to go on one of those super fancy ones around Europe, but I also enjoy spending many days in one location at a time in Europe, too.  So far, the latter has won out every time.


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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 26, 2023, 03:43:05 PM
I've been on RCI and Carnival.  No discernible difference to me.

The Carnival ship was one with the big waterpark on top, which is why we chose it, for the kids.  A Disney cruise would have been cool too, but they cost considerably more and my parents were footing the bill anyway, for their 50th wedding anniversary.  We had a great time, ate formal dinner at the same table every night with the same waitstaff, who were awesome.

I'd like to go on one of those super fancy ones around Europe, but I also enjoy spending many days in one location at a time in Europe, too.  So far, the latter has won out every time.



We do both, but then again, I get 7 weeks of PTO and my wife is retired. Even before that, she also got 7 weeks.

IF we do 2024, and it's a big IF, we'll do a week in Germany and then fly to Barcelona for a few days there.
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Post by: utee94 on October 26, 2023, 03:50:50 PM
Yeah, I only get 4 weeks, and my wife is self-employed so she can take off as much as she wants, but it's money directly out of her pocket when she does.

Hopefully I'll be retired in 10, that's the plan.
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Post by: SuperMario on October 26, 2023, 03:55:11 PM
We were supposed to go from Lima, Peru to Miami - through the canal, which is high on my bucket list.

That cruise got cancelled, and the people who were on the ship from Argentina to Peru were not allowed to get off in Lima.

They got our cruise for free, minus the other stops or course. Bastages.

Oh, and they landed in Miami, tested everyone, and were ZERO Covid!!
no way!!! that totally sucks!!! Not for the people that got your free cruise.

So dumb it down for me. What's the big appeal of the cruise. I get the stopping at multiple locations, which would be awesome. My turn off was also the time stuck on the boat, rather than being longer periods of time at the places i would want to be.. I also always get nervous i would miss getting on the boat in time and be stuck somewhere.

I have seen so much of the world, yet never been anywhere in Europe so when it's deemed I'm safe to fly, I eventually want to get over there and I've had a couple suggest mediterranean cruise, which I clearly wouldn't do with this state of the world over there, but I'm not sure that's the way i'd want to hit up some of those locations. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 26, 2023, 04:19:20 PM
no way!!! that totally sucks!!! Not for the people that got your free cruise.

So dumb it down for me. What's the big appeal of the cruise. I get the stopping at multiple locations, which would be awesome. My turn off was also the time stuck on the boat, rather than being longer periods of time at the places i would want to be.. I also always get nervous i would miss getting on the boat in time and be stuck somewhere.

I have seen so much of the world, yet never been anywhere in Europe so when it's deemed I'm safe to fly, I eventually want to get over there and I've had a couple suggest mediterranean cruise, which I clearly wouldn't do with this state of the world over there, but I'm not sure that's the way i'd want to hit up some of those locations.
The biggest thing with Azamara is that it's so small, they stay later. It's not uncommon to get to a port at 8AM and not leave until 10-11PM. They also do overnights in places like Barcelona, Monaco, Venice, Rome (Civitavecchia) and Florence (Livorno).

And I actually like being "stuck" on the ship. Lots of stuff to do (lectures, art lessons, shows, drinking) while crossing the Atlantic, and no jet lag when you get home. They change the clocks every other day!!
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 26, 2023, 04:31:08 PM
I've been on RCI and Carnival.  No discernible difference to me.
The Carnival I was on was ca. 1996, it was a LOT different from NCL, mostly the screaming hoards of kids.  It was fine for us as I had a screaming hoard of kids.

I also note significant differences between an NCL cruise in the Caribbean and one in the Med or Europe.
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Post by: Riffraft on October 26, 2023, 06:16:01 PM
I am retiring early next year.  Already have have an Alaska Cruise planned and a 30 day trip to Europe, Israel and Egypt, combination of cruises and touring. 

I have cruised on Carnival, NCL and Celebrity. As has been said way too many kids on Carnival.  NCL is IMO the best combination of price & quality.  Celebrity was great, almost no kids, but you pay for the quality and lack of kids.
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Post by: ELA on October 26, 2023, 09:57:50 PM
So the Thursday night college football announcers have a season long match play, playing the best coach near the location, and then picking one hole to count?  Dan Mullen should never come back to coaching, that is the dream job
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 07:40:20 AM
I am retiring early next year.  Already have have an Alaska Cruise planned and a 30 day trip to Europe, Israel and Egypt, combination of cruises and touring.

I have cruised on Carnival, NCL and Celebrity. As has been said way too many kids on Carnival.  NCL is IMO the best combination of price & quality.  Celebrity was great, almost no kids, but you pay for the quality and lack of kids.
The other really nice thing about cruising is you only unpack and pack one time.

We did a two-day here, two-day there type trip in Europe and the packing got old fast. Not to mention travel to here and to there.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2023, 07:46:31 AM
Yeah, that's a major deal for us as well, the unpacking part.  My wife hates it, and won't let me do it for some reason.

I try and star 3-4 days in a hotel if we go to Europe, or with friends, and of course it gets pricey.  Of course a cruise with a nice balcony cabin isn't cheap either, about a grand a day for the two of us.  

I figure by the time I rent a car, get a hotel, and feed us, it's a grand a day just to travel on our own, or close to that.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 07:56:21 AM
We don't rent cars over there. Rail, cabs and walking only, for us.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2023, 08:12:55 AM
We usually have to rent a car given the places we're going, in France at least, and often in other countries.

They aren't all that pricey relative to here.  We're headed over in February as part of a symphony trip (which we'll extend on both ends).  I don't think we'll need a rental car, but I don't have all the details yet.

Delta has a nonstop now from here to Nice, which I guess is nice, but a bit obscure relative to places like say Vienna which they don't service nonstop.  We discussed flying to Nice and renting a car but decided that isn't really the better plan than just flying to Marseille.

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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 08:33:19 AM
We just don't like the hassle of finding places to park in the cities we visit. They are all very walkable and cab friendly. 

For example, when we go to Florence we stay near the terminal. From there we can easily hop on a train and visit anywhere in Tuscany for the day.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2023, 08:36:06 AM
Our last trip summary:

We flew to NYC and then Gatwick, the cruise line makes the air reservations.  Arrived two days ahead of time and took private transportation to South Hampton and hotel near port.  Discovered hotel had one elevator down and we were on the 8th floor, kind of a bummer, it was full of cruise goes, another cruise left the next day.  Toured SH on our own, was "OK", had an excellent Indian meal for dinner and lunch at a pretty neat pub for fish and chips.  My wife wanted to take a cab to the ship, so we did, it was drizzling a bit, and the ship was maybe 200 yards away, cab ride was 4 pounds plus a tip.  Boarded ship no incident.  Ship departed, rainy weather which we expected.  That night was the roughest I've experienced on a cruise ship of that size.  Slept OK anyway.  Had a full day at sea, explored ship, ate food, did not have the beverage package, so didn't drink alcohol.

Tour of Edinburg - walking tour of "hidden E", good guide, most folks on tour could keep up, interesting and nice city, would like to go back.

Bus tour of Loch Ness out of Inverness - OK guide, we visited some castle ruins on the Loch, nice scenery, not really our thing.

Orkney Islands - Kirkwall - Walked on our own, small town, fairly neat, wife bought some clothing, wouldn't go back, but a decent visit to a place I'd never have seen, would have liked to have toured Scapa Flow but didn't.

Belfast - bus tour of Ards Peninsula, with stop at pub and old monastery.  The pub visit was great because we met some locals, the owner took us across to visit the Copeland distillery.  Scenery was OK.  Got a feel for the place, wife would like to go back, not me so much.

Isle of Mann - Dropped anchor there but captain said waves were too rough for getting everyone on the tenders, so we left.  I noticed we were heading SE at speed which was not in the direction of Dublin, our next planned tour.  Captain came on and said a bad storm was brewing and Dublin was out.  They showed the weather radar on the TV, it was a bad storm with 100 knot winds, the ship was heading away from it.  That night was pretty bouncy.

Cork - The weather broke, we had an overnight in Cork, and the ship docked (no tendering).  We walked off and about the port town known as "Cobh" apparently pronounced "Cove".  Pretty nice town, sat outside a pub and had a Murphy's stout, sun was out, it was reasonably warm.  This was the last port for the Titanic and they had a major deal about that which we ignored mostly.

Second day had bus/walking tour of city of Cork.  Decent guide, some folks struggled to keep up which slowed us some, sat cathedral which was not Catholic, walked about town.  Get a feel for the place, saw a large protest about "Free free Palestine" walking down main street hollering.  OK then.

Portland - Ship docked, had bus tour to Stonehenge, 2 hour bus ride, really not worth it to me, wife liked it.  Scenery.

South Hampton - Had to get up early for 6 AM bus ride to Heathrow which went without incident.  Had 11:45 AN flight direct this time.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2023, 08:39:38 AM
We avoid rental cars when we stay in larger cities.  I've driven pretty much all over France seeing a lot of out of the way places not serviced by trains.  We toured Normandy twice now, a rental car is really neccessary there.  Bordeaux, same if you want to visit wineries.  Had one in the Alps, that was pretty neat, Chamonix, would like to go back there.  We have friends/cousins to visit at times who live pretty far out of Paris, used to have step daughter and family in tiny village maybe 60 miles SW of Paris.  Parking in such places is pretty easy of course.  Step daughter is not in SD.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 08:41:02 AM
Sounds like you had a not-so-good cruise over there.

100 knot winds? Jeesh.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2023, 08:53:31 AM
The cruise overall was pretty decent, my wife liked it a lot.  I'd rank others we've done as being better, more interesting.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 09:22:53 AM
I guess it comes down to interests.

We have little interest in the Baltics. Copenhagen sure. We'd fly there. The rest are too close to Putin.

Not much interest in South America. Argentina sure. We'd fly, but doubtful.

Japan and South Korea are on the list.

These might be of interest.

35-NIGHT EUROPE GRAND VOYAGE (azamara.com) (https://www.azamara.com/cruises/qs240518-035-35-night-europe-grand-voyage)

62-NIGHT NEW ZEALAND TO JAPAN GRAND VOYAGE (azamara.com) (https://www.azamara.com/cruises/pr250203-062-62-night-new-zealand-to-japan-grand-voyage)

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Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2023, 09:25:45 AM
Our Baltic cruise that got nixed because wife tested positive was a nice one initially, it had two nights in St. Pete and Helsinki and Stockholm and Berlin (by rail).  They changed the ports of call after the invasion of course, but it became less interesting.

We'll probably do Thailand/Vietnam/Phillipines next after Japan/SK.

I bet I'm the only one here who has been to Oman (not that there was anything special about it really).

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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 09:33:33 AM
O man, I would never go to Oman.
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Post by: utee94 on October 27, 2023, 09:50:04 AM
We usually have to rent a car given the places we're going, in France at least, and often in other countries.

They aren't all that pricey relative to here.  We're headed over in February as part of a symphony trip (which we'll extend on both ends).  I don't think we'll need a rental car, but I don't have all the details yet.

Delta has a nonstop now from here to Nice, which I guess is nice, but a bit obscure relative to places like say Vienna which they don't service nonstop.  We discussed flying to Nice and renting a car but decided that isn't really the better plan than just flying to Marseille.



Yeah I couldn't really do all the things I wanted to do in France, without a car.  Touring Bordeaux and Provence were high on the list and you lose a lot of time if you're trying to do that by rail.  Driving and parking in Paris sucks, but I don't spend much time in Paris, anyway.

Italy on the other hand is more easily trainable, and like badgerfan we like to stay IN Florence so catching trains (or even touring vans) out to the countryside is very workable.
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Post by: Riffraft on October 27, 2023, 10:51:20 AM
Yeah I couldn't really do all the things I wanted to do in France, without a car.  Touring Bordeaux and Provence were high on the list and you lose a lot of time if you're trying to do that by rail.  Driving and parking in Paris sucks, but I don't spend much time in Paris, anyway.

Italy on the other hand is more easily trainable, and like badgerfan we like to stay IN Florence so catching trains (or even touring vans) out to the countryside is very workable.

When we did Italy we used the train, touring vans, public transportation and uber.  If I have tried to drive in Rome, I would have gone crazy. We stayed in an VRBO in Rome and used it as a coming off point to various cities and places.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2023, 10:54:56 AM
Driving in European cities is a thing to avoid if possible.  It can however be a necessity if your plans include touring smaller cities and towns.  A small city like say Saumur in France is a nice place and driving is pretty easy.  I drove to and in  Luxembourg City a while back with no issues, I wanted to tour the Battle of the Bulge area.  I drove a lot on that trip, a Grand Circle from Paris to Strasbourg to Luxembourg to Brussels to Normandy then Samur and back to Paris.

That was a great trip.

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Post by: utee94 on October 27, 2023, 11:16:34 AM
Driving in European cities is a thing to avoid if possible.  It can however be a necessity if your plans include touring smaller cities and towns.  A small city like say Saumur in France is a nice place and driving is pretty easy.  I drove to and in  Luxembourg City a while back with no issues, I wanted to tour the Battle of the Bulge area.  I drove a lot on that trip, a Grand Circle from Paris to Strasbourg to Luxembourg to Brussels to Normandy then Samur and back to Paris.

That was a great trip.


Yeah that would be an awesome trip.  I'd like to do that.

Honestly the only city I've ever driven in, in France, that was troublesome, is Paris.  Everything else is pretty easy.

I also found Brussels and all of Belgium, and Amsterdam and all of the Netherlands, to be pretty easy by car.

I've never had a car in Italy proper, but I did when I was in Sicily.  The island is navigable from city to city by train, but if you want to get off the beaten path (and you definitely do), then having a car is nice.  And the company was paying anyway.  Unsurprisingly, it got stolen from my hotel parking lot.  The locals at the hotel and at the fab where I was working told me, "yeah that happens a lot."  And when I went back to get another rental car, they said "yeah that happens a lot."  Crazy place, is Sicily.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 11:20:09 AM
Being in Europe as much as I have, I can really only compare what driving in a big city would be like in our country.

Boston is a mofo to drive in. I'd rather not do that ever again. Which is why I don't drive in big city Europe.
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Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2023, 11:35:22 AM
I didn't have trouble in Boston, but that was 30 years ago
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Post by: utee94 on October 27, 2023, 11:38:46 AM
Yeah if you don't like driving in Boston then definitely avoid Paris.  But most of the other cities in Western Europe are easy enough.

I've never driven in London, I imagine that's no fun.
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Post by: Riffraft on October 27, 2023, 11:46:21 AM
Wife is from Boston, so I get to drive there at least twice a year.  Its not good, but not too bad. Always from trying to get to and from a Red Sox's game.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 27, 2023, 11:52:08 AM
I will never drive in Taipei. That's scary just sitting in a cab. Scooters swarming around everywhere like a bunch of angry bees. 
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Post by: utee94 on October 27, 2023, 11:54:12 AM
Yeah most of those Asian cities look crazy to me.  I'd definitely avoid driving in them.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 12:03:27 PM
To be fair, the only time I drove in Boston was during the "Big Dig". Just brutal.

Big Dig - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2023, 12:06:25 PM
I drove thru some tunnel from the airport
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2023, 12:35:23 PM
I think, on reflection, MOST larger cities I've driven in in Europe were OK.  Brussels, Barcelona, Bordeaux, Strasbourg, Luxembourg ...  The outskirts of Paris are OK I'd say, those traffic circles are crazy.  Copenhagen looked OK, we did cabs only there, and the trains.  I have not driven in England or the Uk at all.

I had a rental car in Mexico and drove to Chichen Itza, my wife thought I was crazy, and realistically maybe it was.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on October 27, 2023, 02:38:32 PM
I never get a car in Boston, DC, SF or NY.   Cost being one reason, walkability being other.   NY is actually really easy to navigate just not worth the effort.  Plus it's easy to navigate via transit and cabs.

Boston is very dense, not at all a grid or navigable and the most expensive city to park in.  

I also go car less in Seattle if I can help it. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2023, 02:48:02 PM
I had a rental car in Mexico and drove to Chichen Itza, my wife thought I was crazy, and realistically maybe it was.
coming from Cancun, maybe not
coming from Mexico City, very
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 02:57:11 PM
I never get a car in Boston, DC, SF or NY.  Cost being one reason, walkability being other.  NY is actually really easy to navigate just not worth the effort.  Plus it's easy to navigate via transit and cabs.

Boston is very dense, not at all a grid or navigable and the most expensive city to park in. 

I also go car less in Seattle if I can help it.
We used to get a car there because we liked going out to the wineries and taking the ferry out West.

Never rented a car at the airport though. Always took transit downtown and rented from there when we wanted to.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 27, 2023, 03:05:20 PM
We used to get a car there because we liked going out to the wineries and taking the ferry out West.

Never rented a car at the airport though. Always took transit downtown and rented from there when we wanted to.
Yeah, when we went to Chicago in 2019 we took the El from Midway downtown, and back. But in the middle we rented a car Saturday morning downtown for the trip down to Purdue for the game and returned it Sunday when we got back. 

If I'm going to be in the downtown of a city the bulk of the time I'm visiting, I prefer not to have a car due to traffic/parking. It's usually more trouble than it's worth. 

When we do Ireland next year we'll need a car though, I believe. Going to do plenty of stuff outside the city proper. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on October 27, 2023, 03:51:23 PM
It's not bad driving in Korea. Everything is on the correct side of the road, and all signs are in English below the Korean characters. It's surprisingly easy to get around once you know what to look for.

That said, we rented and I drove on Jeju Island, the Hawaii of Korea. Driving in Seoul seems like it would be a lot like driving in Los Angeles, traffic and all.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on October 27, 2023, 08:24:26 PM
Yeah most of those Asian cities look crazy to me.  I'd definitely avoid driving in them.
One day I’ll share my story of scary riding in Thailand as I woke up lost after a night I stumbled into a warehouse that was holding secret Thai boxing matches. I woke up in a random, place, jumped on the back of a guy’s motorcycle that stopped to help me and he drove like a maniac in the busy traffic. Scary yet amazingly memorable as was the rest of the night I can remember.
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Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2023, 09:18:23 PM
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 27, 2023, 10:13:57 PM
Heh.  I live about 100 yards away from this one.  Voted most beautiful roundabout by some fussy Brits who judge such matters.  We have a zillion roundabouts here.

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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2023, 08:40:53 AM
Heh.  I live about 100 yards away from this one.  Voted most beautiful roundabout by some fussy Brits who judge such matters.  We have a zillion roundabouts here.


I remember, and there's probably even more now, 7 years later.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 28, 2023, 08:56:05 AM
Folks here think other folks here don't know how to round about.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2023, 09:03:28 AM
Maybe some don't. I do, but not too many of them in these parts.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on October 28, 2023, 09:14:50 AM
We've got a bunch in the newer residential neighborhoods these days.  My daughter likes them, prefers them to standard intersections, but of course she's never been on a really big one.

I have:

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on October 28, 2023, 10:00:54 AM
A roundabout in Fort Dodge, Iowa has a large sculpture of Floyd of Rosedale in the center. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 28, 2023, 10:38:06 AM
One day I’ll share my story of scary riding in Thailand as I woke up lost after a night I stumbled into a warehouse that was holding secret Thai boxing matches. I woke up in a random, place, jumped on the back of a guy’s motorcycle that stopped to help me and he drove like a maniac in the busy traffic. Scary yet amazingly memorable as was the rest of the night I can remember.
Don't share the story... Write the screenplay and sell it to Hollywood. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 30, 2023, 10:00:08 AM
Anybody here with experience in Tokyo or Seoul, SK?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 30, 2023, 10:21:40 AM
It's not bad driving in Korea. Everything is on the correct side of the road, and all signs are in English below the Korean characters. It's surprisingly easy to get around once you know what to look for.

That said, we rented and I drove on Jeju Island, the Hawaii of Korea. Driving in Seoul seems like it would be a lot like driving in Los Angeles, traffic and all.

Anybody here with experience in Tokyo or Seoul, SK?


See above.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 30, 2023, 11:23:34 AM
I was thinking about where best to stay, how to get around on the subway, taxis, etc.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on October 30, 2023, 01:12:49 PM
I can't speak to Tokyo.

The subway is the absolute best way to get around Seoul. I did not drive there. The Airport Express is connected to both Incheon and Gimpo Airports. However, the times I took either a city of nice bus the traffic was awful. Remember that urban feel of Seoul is that of Wilshire Blvd in Los Angeles, except populated with four times the density of LA. I'm not sure where your cruise will go into/out of. Didn't take cabs. Unlike in Rome, there are no designated taxi ranks.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on October 30, 2023, 01:31:45 PM
We have two days before in Tokyo.  I think I'll splurge and stay at the Conrad Hilton, I have points for it.  Then we have two days in Seoul after the cruise.  I have not looked at a hotel there.  I think it worthwhile to stay midcity and walk about a lot.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 03, 2023, 01:46:46 PM




Rocks somewhere in England
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 03, 2023, 01:48:06 PM
Nice bar in Cobh, Ireland, pretty nice day there.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 03, 2023, 01:49:02 PM
Trebuchet, Loch Ness in background.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 03, 2023, 01:50:25 PM
Part of the line at Belfast to reboard a tender going back to the ship.  It was a bit annoying but we had fun chatting with other folks.  It was a bit chilly.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 03, 2023, 01:51:44 PM
Edinburgh, we had a really good guide here, quite a bit of walking which was great.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 03, 2023, 01:52:38 PM


Rock being moved to a rock hospital.(https://i.imgur.com/tKGrgV0.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 08, 2023, 07:57:26 AM
Video shows horrifying moments cruise ship passengers ‘feared for their lives’: ‘Tables were flying’ | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/world/video-shows-horrifying-moments-cruise-ship-passengers-feared-lives-tables-were-flying)

Interesting, we were in the same general area in a storm, nothing as bad as this apparently.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 08, 2023, 08:00:52 AM
Cork, Ireland, we had a walking tour, it was really not all that exciting.  The tours often seem to include a cathedral of some sort, which I guess is OK.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 17, 2023, 09:07:59 AM
Two restaurant concepts will share one roof later this month in Punta Gorda. Veteran restaurateurs Penny Rowe and Gordon Muir split a 2,832-square-foot space by adding a wall and providing two separate entries.

The pair’s passion for food and design is evident with the new Penny’s Diner and Penny’s Speakeasy, scheduled to open Nov. 27.

The old Penny’s Diner was located in the strip mall behind their new stand-alone building at 1121 Bal Harbor Blvd. in Punta Gorda Isles and closed Oct. 27, 2022.


From the outside, the new location, a freshly painted blue building built in 1985, looks rather plain. Its exterior isn’t finished yet, but a step inside shows promise.

The couple did the makeovers themselves—Muir built the bar in the speakeasy, and Rowe managed the design.

The Fifties-style diner boasts large black and white tile flooring, turquoise booths, chairs, a jukebox and blue bar stools at the counter. Walls are painted in shades of yellow, pink and green. The diner’s trademark statue, Mrs. Patty Melt, holds a menu, wears roller skates and stands inside the door, as if to greet patrons.

The restaurant on the other side of the building, Penny’s Speakeasy, offers fine dining and recreates a bygone-era speakeasy with antique furniture. Features include Roaring ’20s-style light fixtures, an upright piano, dark red walls with photos of movie stars and posters, and dark wood barstools with red padded seat cushions, and a Triomphe L’oeil of a vintage wine and bootleg cellar makes up the rear wall.

“Everything is homemade and fresh, nothing is frozen,” Rowe said of the food at Penny’s Diner. “The biscuits and gravy are homemade, and the burgers are fresh. We shop for bread and produce every other day.”


Nothing on the diner’s breakfast and lunch menu is more than $14.99, with one exception—the Double Trouble Cheeseburger for $17.99, which contains two 8-ounce, hand-formed patties.

Penny’s Diner specialties include Ricky Ricardo’s Cuban (Lucy’s Favorite) sandwich, Telly Savalas gyro and the James Dean classic burger. The Speakeasy menu offers six items from land and six from sea, and reservations are required.

“This is where my heart is, it’s my passion,” said Rowe, who has been in the restaurant business for 27 years.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2023, 09:11:23 AM
I was sad when Penny's closed.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 17, 2023, 09:13:32 AM
new place might be legit

sounds good
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2023, 09:16:26 AM
I read that yesterday. 

Why are you reading Gulf Shore Business

You moving here?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on November 17, 2023, 09:17:46 AM
In general I tend to prefer a "restaurant" over a "restaurant concept."

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 09:29:48 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 09:30:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/8UBeLl6.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 09:31:16 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2023, 09:34:58 AM
In general I tend to prefer a "restaurant" over a "restaurant concept."


Writers need to write more words.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on November 17, 2023, 10:57:20 AM
I read that yesterday.

Why are you reading Gulf Shore Business?

You moving here?
Wait.. you moved in this area? Which part of you don’t mind me asking? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 17, 2023, 10:58:58 AM
popped up on my google feed

and yes, I might visit sometime
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2023, 11:01:59 AM
popped up on my google feed

and yes, I might visit sometime
Doing a lot of Punta Gorda searches will do that.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MikeDeTiger on November 17, 2023, 11:21:42 AM
In general I tend to prefer a "restaurant" over a "restaurant concept."

If the concept is that I go to a good restaurant, then I support it.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 17, 2023, 11:32:51 AM
Looks like 2024 is shaping up... Planning a weekend getaway to Paso Robles, a trip to Indianapolis for a wedding, a week- in Kauai, a week+ in Ireland, and likely a trip to Nashville for the board meeting. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2023, 11:55:20 AM
Looks like 2024 is shaping up... Planning a weekend getaway to Paso Robles, a trip to Indianapolis for a wedding, a week- in Kauai, a week+ in Ireland, and likely a trip to Nashville for the board meeting.
Check this place out if you haven't already. We loved it because we could do what every we wanted from the place.

Walk to restaurants, groceries, beach, bars, etc. If we chose, and we did several times, we'd buy fresh fish at the beach, just caught, and cook it for dinner that night. Some other guests did the same, so it was pretty fun. I would not call it luxurious at all, but that's not what we wanted anyway.

Beach Hotel | Hanalei, HI - Hanalei Inn

 (https://www.hanaleiinn.net/Luxury-Accommodations-Hanalei-HI.html)Our favorite bar:

Tahitian Food & Restaurant in Hanalei, Hawaii | Tahiti Nui – TheNui (https://www.thenui.com/)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 11:58:33 AM
I have a "restaurant concept" in my head, it's a real BBQ place with Utee in Aix-en-Provence.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 17, 2023, 12:03:08 PM
Thanks Badge. 

The hotel says only queen beds... Not sure I can deal with that lol. But it sounds really cool.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 17, 2023, 12:03:36 PM
I have a "restaurant concept" in my head, it's a real BBQ place with Utee in Aix-en-Provence.
Any chance you'd want to connect a brewery operation to that place? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 12:05:24 PM
Could be a great concept. ....  a brew pub/BBQ place in France.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on November 17, 2023, 01:38:58 PM
Looks like 2024 is shaping up... Planning a weekend getaway to Paso Robles, a trip to Indianapolis for a wedding, a week- in Kauai, a week+ in Ireland, and likely a trip to Nashville for the board meeting.
I could write you a book on Kauai and I have tons of feedback since I'm going to insert myself here as my wife and I have been twice and it's my favorite place in the US.

HOTEL (https://www.hyatt.com/grand-hyatt/en-US/kauai-grand-hyatt-kauai-resort-and-spa?src=corp_lclb_gmb_seo_kauai) 

I'm a fan of the southside, but there's also a lot of people that would argue to stay on the north. Some of it depends on the time of year and whether or not it's rainy season. If you are anywhere south, Grand Hyatt is amazing. Worst case eat at the restaurant Tidepools on sight. It's amazing. 

I'd take Liko Cruises  (https://liko-kauai.com/)to see the Na Pali coast. So worth it. 

Island Helicopters (https://islandhelicopters.com/?utm_source=Google+GMB+&utm_campaign=GMB2023&utm_id=GMB) is also unreal are the only helicopter service that can land at the Jurassic Park falls and the rest of the 80 mins is breathtaking as well. 

Waimea Canyon is a must.. 100% must.  Not sure the budget or plan or what you like best but i highly suggest car rental.. First time out I made the mistake of renting a cadillac, which was a brain fart as a jeep or solid SUV is the way to go. 

This is truly a place that's tough to fit everything in one trip.. Wailua falls, Hanalei beach, polihale park which is a massive crazy dirt road you have to drive down but leads to an almost empty beach and constant rainbows. 

personally, I would in detail plan out days.. I'm typically a relax on a beach type of guy, but Kauai is the one place that planning out days leads to so many amazing experiences. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 01:59:52 PM
We are headed to the Big Island in December for a week.  My wife loves it there.  I've taken her to Oahu and Maui but not yet Kauai, she's for some reason not really interested.  I'll force it at some point.  Then we visit family last week in December.  Then baseball.  Then a cruise to Japan/SK in March.  Mixed in is the symphony tour in paris/london in Feb.  I'm gonna be crazy.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 17, 2023, 02:12:30 PM
I could write you a book on Kauai and I have tons of feedback since I'm going to insert myself here as my wife and I have been twice and it's my favorite place in the US.

HOTEL (https://www.hyatt.com/grand-hyatt/en-US/kauai-grand-hyatt-kauai-resort-and-spa?src=corp_lclb_gmb_seo_kauai)

I'm a fan of the southside, but there's also a lot of people that would argue to stay on the north. Some of it depends on the time of year and whether or not it's rainy season. If you are anywhere south, Grand Hyatt is amazing. Worst case eat at the restaurant Tidepools on sight. It's amazing.

I'd take Liko Cruises  (https://liko-kauai.com/)to see the Na Pali coast. So worth it.

Island Helicopters (https://islandhelicopters.com/?utm_source=Google+GMB+&utm_campaign=GMB2023&utm_id=GMB) is also unreal are the only helicopter service that can land at the Jurassic Park falls and the rest of the 80 mins is breathtaking as well.

Waimea Canyon is a must.. 100% must.  Not sure the budget or plan or what you like best but i highly suggest car rental.. First time out I made the mistake of renting a cadillac, which was a brain fart as a jeep or solid SUV is the way to go.

This is truly a place that's tough to fit everything in one trip.. Wailua falls, Hanalei beach, polihale park which is a massive crazy dirt road you have to drive down but leads to an almost empty beach and constant rainbows.

personally, I would in detail plan out days.. I'm typically a relax on a beach type of guy, but Kauai is the one place that planning out days leads to so many amazing experiences.
Thanks. Now that we've booked the flights as of yesterday, we need to start mapping this stuff out.

Arriving on a Monday evening with just about enough time to get to the hotel, check in, have dinner/drinks, and then flying back out on a Saturday night redeye so we'll actually get almost all of Saturday for activities. So it'll basically be 5 full days. It'll be May--not sure what season that is just yet. 

Definitely going to have a rental car. Don't really think it's feasible to see the amount of the island we'd want to see without one. I'll have to see what the rental options are--I can use my corporate code for a generic midsize sedan usually pretty cheap, but I don't know how much more expensive it gets if I want to go Jeep/SUV. 

And I'm the exact opposite of a "relax on the beach" guy, so I'm going to try to pack as much in as I can. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 02:15:18 PM
We did a Blue Hawaii helo tour a while back, it's pretty amazing really.  $$$.  Worth it.  A good thing for us is that it's easy to get out of bed early.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 17, 2023, 02:44:07 PM
Yeah, we did a seaplane tour over Vancouver which was really really cool. I think a helicopter tour over Kauai would be awesome. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2023, 02:56:09 PM
Definitely want a rental car on Kauai. 

Everything SM wrote is accurate.

On the north side, Tunnel's Beach is really nice. Also the Blue Room is amazing up there. Nepali is an amazing hike. Not sure I could handle it anymore.

Staying in Lihui might be your best bet, actually. Kinda half-way from everything. There are places in town on the water, but also places just a bit North on the water, and less dinero.

Kapaa is a nice food town. So is Poipu.

A fishing charter out of Port Allen. 

This cruise I highly recommend:

Kauai's Ultimate Na Pali Coast Eco Tour | Kauai Z Tours (https://kauaiztours.com/kauais-ultimate-na-pali-coast-eco-tour/)

So much to do on that island.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on November 17, 2023, 03:07:25 PM
This is making me want to head back out. There's just so much to do there and every bit of it is amazing. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2023, 03:37:08 PM
This is making me want to head back out. There's just so much to do there and every bit of it is amazing.
Board meeting in Kauai?

Start out at a Rainbow Warrior game and hop a puddle jumper!!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on November 17, 2023, 03:43:48 PM
Board meeting in Kauai?

Start out at a Rainbow Warrior game and hop a puddle jumper!!
lol.. YES PLEASE.. I'm still not sure I can fly, especially not that far, but I'm hopefully getting the thumbs up next week and testing a quick flight down to Florida.. Since my gift to my wife for our 10 year last year was brain surgery, I owe her a trip for being a dream wife this past year and Kauai is our favorite
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 03:45:17 PM
Wishing you a quick and total recovery.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 17, 2023, 04:56:01 PM
Board meeting in Kauai?

Start out at a Rainbow Warrior game and hop a puddle jumper!!
I'd have to bring my daughters
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on November 17, 2023, 05:00:46 PM
Wishing you a quick and total recovery.
Appreciate that CD. Unfortunately, the brain is one of the slowest healers i the body. That being said, I'm incredibly lucky for the outcome. I beat a lot of odds. Lucky for me, my wife is a surgical nurse and was well connected to put me in very talented hands under the knife.

Lucky for me, i did insane amounts of travel in my 20's and 30's so i'm ok to take a break. I'm just trying to get healthy so i can take my kids to some of those amazing places when they are an appropriate age to do it.. Although a board meeting in Kauai might force me to make a 1 year old fly on a plane for that long. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 17, 2023, 05:02:45 PM
Board meeting in Kauai?

Start out at a Rainbow Warrior game and hop a puddle jumper!!
You know I'd be down. I've gotta hop on an airplane either way. 

Unless you all want to come to SoCal for a traditional Big Ten November rockfight... Iowa is coming to UCLA on Nov 9. Given that most of our teams will never see the Rose Bowl again in a postseason sense, we might as well go check it out in season :57:
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 24, 2023, 11:05:49 AM
Well, looks like a Kauai helicopter tour is off the table. Turns out that every single one of the companies requires purchasing a second seat for any passenger over a certain weight (ranging from 230-250#). If I really focused on cutting weight between now and May, I could certainly sneak below 250#, but I'd probably have to stop weight training as I've actually been building muscle mass all of 2023... I know it's a safety issue, but it sucks to fail a weight restriction when I'm not even effing fat... 

Trying to convince my wife to try a fixed-wing tour company. They do private tours in a Cessna (looks like a 172) and even with my giant carcass we're well within the combined weight limit, and it's actually significantly cheaper than the helo. Just need to get her to wrap her head around getting in a Cessna. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 24, 2023, 02:18:03 PM
Cessnas are very safe. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 25, 2023, 02:54:03 AM
Three flights in a day is exhausting. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 25, 2023, 04:08:16 PM
Finally settled in Carlsbad condo.  Weather good. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 25, 2023, 06:00:50 PM
Finally settled in Carlsbad condo.  Weather good.
Carlsbad CA I assume? 

Not sure how long you're in town, or what your plans are for food. 

Pizza Port is good if you're looking for good pizza and beer. Recommend sitting at the bar for counter service as it's a chill place w/o wait staff. They do have wine if the Mrs isn't into beer. 

Campfire is a good restaurant for dinner. Good food, good cocktails, wine, etc. 

And of course Mexican food, seafood, sushi, although I don't have specific restaurants for each.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 25, 2023, 06:22:09 PM
Trying to imagine the Mrs sitting at the bar for counter service
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 25, 2023, 07:04:15 PM
They have Mexican here?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 25, 2023, 07:05:13 PM
Currently at kids’ million dollar place in SD.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 25, 2023, 07:20:16 PM
They have Mexican here?
This place is amazing...
https://www.cafecoyoteoldtown.com/
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on December 25, 2023, 07:40:54 PM
Trying to imagine the Mrs sitting at the bar for counter service
I'm sure they could find a nice sink in the back for her
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 01, 2024, 11:58:30 AM
I'll download some more pics today (probably).  Got in at 4:30 AM.  My wife insisted on unpacking when we got home.  I haven't been this cold since Hawaii.

I got five hours sleep at least.  The red eye is not the best idea I think but strangely my wife liked it.  I was amusing to see a near empty airport at 4:30 AM.

Good to  be home.  Nice chilly January day here.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 06, 2024, 01:04:40 PM
DINE | Fishermen's Village | Punta Gorda, Florida (fishermensvillage.com) (https://www.fishermensvillage.com/dine)

We might try this place in between baseball camps.

Dinner Menu – Laishley Crab House (https://laishleycrabhouse.com/dinner/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 06, 2024, 01:20:36 PM
When?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 06, 2024, 01:22:14 PM
I have January 14 and 15 "off" between camps, as it were.  I could be limping a bit.  Camp runs Tue-Sat and then Tue-Sat.

We're going to Orlando for a few days afterward.  Not my favorite city, but we can stay there "free" ...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 06, 2024, 01:23:30 PM
Fishville isn't what it used to be FYI.

Skyrocketing rents have caused a lot of the stores and restaurants out.

There are far better choices to eat in PG.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 06, 2024, 01:25:52 PM
We get back from Cabo on the 13th. On our way down now, about 2 hours left in flight.

Fast internet on American!!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 06, 2024, 01:36:41 PM
Looking for a nice seafood place to treat my wife in PC as she tags along with me for this.  She takes it easy during camp and skips the morning game but comes to the afternoon game each day.  We have a "team event" dinner at Charlie Foxtrot Brewing on Jan 15.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 06, 2024, 01:41:48 PM
Lashley is pretty good.

Captain's Table at Fishville is better.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 06, 2024, 02:36:29 PM
The Perfect Caper Is a really good French restaurant.

Carmelo's is great Italian and the best place in Punta Gorda overall.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 08, 2024, 07:31:04 PM
At Mr and Mrs Crab in Gainesville. FL. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 09, 2024, 10:02:07 AM
Good place.

Greetings from Cabo San Lucas!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 10:17:09 AM

We're going to Orlando for a few days afterward.  Not my favorite city, but we can stay there "free" ...
After looking at ticket and flight prices for the Natty game, i passed on it and went with booking Orlando (disney & seaworld) for my family. It's really not my favorite city either. I personally think it's WAY overhyped. That being said, I'm at a stage in life trying to put my opinion second to creating memories my kids will love. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 10, 2024, 10:22:54 AM
After looking at ticket and flight prices for the Natty game, i passed on it and went with booking Orlando (disney & seaworld) for my family. It's really not my favorite city either. I personally think it's WAY overhyped. That being said, I'm at a stage in life trying to put my opinion second to creating memories my kids will love.
Man I hear ya, but I looked at the expense of taking the kids to Disney World and just decided that those are memories they're going to have to live without! :)

We did a couple week-long beach vacations in Mexico for less than just a few days at Disney.  It's insane.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on January 10, 2024, 10:26:14 AM
Greetings from Cabo San Lucas!
Maybe we can let ourselves in whilst you're gone.Don't want all of that fare spoiling or some drunk getting his hands on the Scotch
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2024, 10:28:33 AM
Maybe we can let ourselves in whilst you're gone.Don't want all of that fare spoiling or some drunk getting his hands on the Scotch
shut your whore mouth!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 10:29:10 AM
Man I hear ya, but I looked at the expense of taking the kids to Disney World and just decided that those are memories they're going to have to live without! :)

We did a couple week-long beach vacations in Mexico for less than just a few days at Disney.  It's insane.
I totally get that.. One of the only reasons I'm good with it is two of my wife's good couple friends both moved to that area so it's a mix of the parks and seeing good friends otherwise i'd pass. My kids enjoy Seaworld far more than Disney. I'm just checking the box for their younger years. A few more years and they will have to fall in love with the beach. Living in Cleveland, i'm budgeting more for trips.. my body keeps telling me I need more natural sunlight and there's NONE from late november until May here. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2024, 10:30:00 AM
Man I hear ya, but I looked at the expense of taking the kids to Disney World and just decided that those are memories they're going to have to live without! :)

We did a couple week-long beach vacations in Mexico for less than just a few days at Disney.  It's insane.
Geez, even this poor dirt farmer took his daughters and ex-wife to Disney World

and that was before the divorce - I was in debt
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on January 10, 2024, 10:34:14 AM
Living in Cleveland, i'm budgeting more for trips.. my body keeps telling me I need more natural sunlight and there's NONE from late november until May here.
Nonsense a few yrs back there was plenty of sunshine,of course the clouds clear away and the heat escaped and the Great Lakes froze over.But plenty of sunlight bouncing off the snow 🥶
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 10:38:01 AM
Nonsense a few yrs back there was plenty of sunshine,of course the clouds clear away and the heat escaped and the Great Lakes froze over.But plenty of sunlight bouncing off the snow 🥶
OK.. what secret part of Cleveland are you in? I'd like to sneak in. I'll bring some breakfast bourbon as a thank you.. Also a Championship sweatshirt with an M on it 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on January 10, 2024, 10:43:56 AM
Seriously those cold winters in '14-'15-'16 I think it was. Gets below 20 and sunny even the clouds split.And I'll take that sweatshirt never know when there will be another run on TP 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 10, 2024, 10:47:25 AM
Geez, even this poor dirt farmer took his daughters and ex-wife to Disney World

and that was before the divorce - I was in debt

Disney World can suck it. Multiple trips to pristine beaches, countless campouts, and the State Fair of Texas every year, are much much more important.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 10:48:04 AM
Seriously those cold winters in '14-'15-'16 I think it was. Gets below 20 and sunny even the clouds split.And I'll take that sweatshirt never know when there will be another run on TP
yeah i take the cold and sunny over this 31-35 and gloomy and rainy every day garbage.

If stuff hits the fan, i got you covered with TP lol.. Costco had a good sale on TP yesterday and I loaded up.. It's an election year so I just bought a ton of water and TP because i'm just waiting for crazy to start.  It may cost you one Go Blue though.. even if it's a whisper. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2024, 11:07:30 AM
Disney World can suck it. Multiple trips to pristine beaches, countless campouts, and the State Fair of Texas every year, are much much more important.
I agree, but my daughters and ex would disagree
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 10, 2024, 11:09:54 AM
My Purdue buddy who moved to NC a couple years back came to visit (his wife is from here and her family still is) for the first time since they had kids. I think the kids are 4 and 2 now. They ended up doing Disneyland. 

We met them (w/o the kids) for dinner and drinks one night and my first question was "Was there crying? It's not a real Disneyland trip if a kid doesn't cry."

Well, it was indeed a real Disneyland trip. 

I hate that place. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 10, 2024, 11:17:24 AM
My grand kids will never set foot on Disney.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2024, 11:45:54 AM
it wasn't THAT bad
it wasn't even THAT expensive

but, a 2-year old isn't a good age - wouldn't remember it anyway
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 10, 2024, 11:47:42 AM
it wasn't THAT bad
it wasn't even THAT expensive

but, a 2-year old isn't a good age - wouldn't remember it anyway
Times have changed, prices now aren't anywhere close to what they were 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2024, 11:50:29 AM
Rich arrogant Horns can easily afford today's prices
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 10, 2024, 11:52:46 AM
Rich arrogant Horns can easily afford today's prices
There are a lot of things in life I can afford, but choose not to. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 11:58:26 AM
My grand kids will never set foot on Disney.
Please explain more lol. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 10, 2024, 12:02:36 PM
Please explain more lol.
We don't need to bring politics into this thread lol...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 10, 2024, 12:04:34 PM
We don't need to bring politics into this thread lol...
Correct.

;)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 12:08:58 PM
Correct.

;)
lol.. that says enough.

Trust me, i wanted to go back to Naples but my wife was hoping for a better experience for the kids. We're about a year away from them being old enough to just do beach trips.. 2-3 years I'm going to start pushing for Carribean, Aruba, Hawaii.... 6-7 years and I'm making them all go to Singapore and Thailand with me lol. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2024, 12:39:42 PM
my daughters were around 7 & 9

got the 4-day pass to use outta 5 days

did monday & tuesday at 2 parks

wednesday was rest/relax day at the beach over by Tampa

thursday & friday at the other 2 parks

kids enjoyed the free beach day the most
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 10, 2024, 12:43:58 PM
my daughters were around 7 & 9

got the 4-day pass to use outta 5 days

did monday & tuesday at 2 parks

wednesday was rest/relax day at the beach over by Tampa

thursday & friday at the other 2 parks

kids enjoyed the free beach day the most
When I was 10 we did the trip down to FL for Disney. Can't say I enjoyed it much then. Perhaps my curmudgeonly personality was already starting to form. I thought Epcot was the more interesting of the parks at the time though.

We then did a couple days at Cocoa Beach. I preferred that by far to Disney. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2024, 12:53:05 PM
when I was 14, back in 76... Disney World hadn't been invented yet.

Settled for Disneyland on a west coast driving trip

I enjoyed the Redwoods, San Fran, Hearst Castle, the Grand Canyon and pretty much everything else on that 3-week trip more than Disney.

Never have been a fan of amusement parks.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 10, 2024, 01:17:19 PM
I love roller coasters so I'm cool with roller coaster parks.  We take the kids to Six Flags in San Antonio or Arlington every couple of years.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 10, 2024, 01:24:22 PM
I love roller coasters so I'm cool with roller coaster parks.  We take the kids to Six Flags in San Antonio or Arlington every couple of years.
I do enjoy roller coasters but they became a lot less thrilling after I've skydived and ridden a motorcycle on a racetrack. The actual sense of "danger" that comes with them is no longer there after doing various things that could have legitimately killed me. Thrill rides for me are BB King these days... The thrill is gone. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 10, 2024, 01:32:47 PM
I do enjoy roller coasters but they became a lot less thrilling after I've skydived and ridden a motorcycle on a racetrack. The actual sense of "danger" that comes with them is no longer there after doing various things that could have legitimately killed me. Thrill rides for me are BB King these days... The thrill is gone.

Just head to a roller coaster park in China or Central America, then.  Plenty-high chance of death or at least dismemberment.  Thrill, restored.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 01:45:21 PM
I do enjoy roller coasters but they became a lot less thrilling after I've skydived and ridden a motorcycle on a racetrack. The actual sense of "danger" that comes with them is no longer there after doing various things that could have legitimately killed me. Thrill rides for me are BB King these days... The thrill is gone.
Where did you skydive and how many times have you gone?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on January 10, 2024, 02:22:24 PM
Where did you skydive and how many times have you gone been pushed?
FIFY
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 10, 2024, 02:48:09 PM
Where did you skydive and how many times have you gone?
This was in Cloverdale, CA in mid-2001. I've only gone once. It was tandem and a jump from ~13,000 ft because I wanted the one that provided the longest freefall. I've never jumped solo. 

I have to say, that was (at the time) the absolute most exhilarating and adrenaline-inducing thing I'd ever done. I was on an adrenaline high for an hour afterwards. The only thing that rivals it is the other thing I mentioned--riding a motorcycle on a racetrack. 

I've considered going again, but am having trouble finding anyone who wants to go with me. Also, for tandem jumps there's a weight limit and I'm >250#, which can be over the limit for most places. I almost had it arranged one year with coworkers for as soon as I lost enough weight to do it here in SoCal, but then that (the necessary weight loss) never quite happened. 

FIFY

Funny thing... The whole ride up in the plane I was calm. I didn't really get the butterflies until they opened the door. And then, having the instructor strapped to your back, you sorta penguin-waddle yourselves to the door. So I'm hanging out the door of the airplane with one foot on the wing strut step ready to go. At that point in my mind I knew I was past the point of no return, but the fear was absolutely bubbling up and freezing me. 

To me it FELT like the pilot tilted the wings and basically threw me out of the plane. Or maybe the instructor just pushed. Not sure. I don't think I made any conscious or deliberate move to exit that plane, but then we were out. 

And the craziest thing? Once out of the plane, all the "fear" portion went away and it was just pure exhilaration. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 03:09:02 PM
This was in Cloverdale, CA in mid-2001. I've only gone once. It was tandem and a jump from ~13,000 ft because I wanted the one that provided the longest freefall. I've never jumped solo.

I have to say, that was (at the time) the absolute most exhilarating and adrenaline-inducing thing I'd ever done. I was on an adrenaline high for an hour afterwards. The only thing that rivals it is the other thing I mentioned--riding a motorcycle on a racetrack.
It's seriously the most exhilarating thing you can do. Your post is so unbelievably relatable. I went once in 2006 in New Zealand. I paid the extra for the higher jump and also video footage. Pretty sure mine was 12,000 feet not 13.

My biggest fear was the guy that was the instructor or whatever the tandem guy on my back was, we picked up off the side of the road in a random area after we went to the main office to check in and they put us in a van to drive to the small airport. He looked like he just woke up and his breath I can still smell it to this day. Cool guy, but I had some nerves going after knowing my life was in his hands.  

I absolutely loved the flight up as the scenery of the mountains in New Zealand was incredible. I didn't get really nervous until that door opened and the realization of there's no going back. I definitely had to be pushed out.  After that first second or two of fear, it did seem to just disappear and I still remember yelling from pure adrenaline and love of the moment. 

It's funny because I went with my first wife and her friend and she was acting tough and I was nervous before getting on the plane and she said I was being "soft." Landing from the jump, I wanted to get right back on the plane and do it again and she was spitting up in the field having a small panic attack and demanding water and pretzels lol. 

I want to go again so bad, but my kids are still too young. Once they are grown, I want to definitely go again and likely more than once.  Best rush I've ever experienced. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on January 10, 2024, 03:21:47 PM
Funny thing... The whole ride up in the plane I was calm. I didn't really get the butterflies until they opened the door. And then, having the instructor strapped to your back, you sorta penguin-waddle yourselves to the door. So I'm hanging out the door of the airplane with one foot on the wing strut step ready to go. At that point in my mind I knew I was past the point of no return, but the fear was absolutely bubbling up and freezing me.

To me it FELT like the pilot tilted the wings and basically threw me out of the plane.
I watched an interview with the 101st guys pretty funny some of the comments.Forrest Guth was - it's like a scarry amusement park ride,get real scared but once it ends you want to get right back on again. Shifty Powers said something like the 1st time was not so bad because you don't know what the hell you're doing.

I guess I might be more concerned with the landing ripping something up a friend did that yrs back with his knee
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 10, 2024, 03:39:41 PM
I guess I might be more concerned with the landing ripping something up a friend did that yrs back with his knee
Yeah, the landing is interesting. The wind wasn't strong enough to attempt landing on our feet, so it was a "hold your legs up and skid on your butt" landing. Not the most pleasant way to set it down, but still worth it...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 03:44:43 PM
I watched an interview with the 101st guys pretty funny some of the comments.Forrest Guth was - it's like a scarry amusement park ride,get real scared but once it ends you want to right back on again. Shifty Powers said something like the 1st time was no so bad because you don't know what the hell you're doing.

I guess I might be more concerned with the landing ripping something up a friend did that yrs back with his knee
One of my good friends is a former special forces guy.. Toughest guy I've ever met.. He absolutely hated the airborne part. He's been shot, involved in an explosion and still has shrapnel in him and he said the scariest was jumping out of a plane and no one will ever make him do it again. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 10, 2024, 04:27:35 PM
Zero desire to jump out of an airplane.  I don't even like flying in a sealed airplane. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on January 10, 2024, 06:26:23 PM
Wuss
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2024, 09:26:52 PM
easy for you to say
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on January 11, 2024, 07:06:00 AM
Hello from curacao.  Left Aruba yesterday. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on January 11, 2024, 09:10:14 PM
I was Tampa this week and it was amusing to have our CEO interrupted on stage twice as a tornado warning blew through downtown.   EMS notifications blaring.  We were already in a windowless conference room.

Beautiful day Wednesday.   I see we're heading to zero here back in the north.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 11, 2024, 10:04:03 PM
gonna git cold here in Iowa

should head back to Texas
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 11, 2024, 10:07:45 PM
Hello from curacao.  Left Aruba yesterday.
Aruba is awesome. What did you do there? Have a blast!!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on January 12, 2024, 09:08:52 AM
An Aruba-Bonaire-Curacao cruise is on my bucket list. I was supposed to have done that in 2020 but COVID put a stop to that. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on January 12, 2024, 09:13:58 AM
Portaling?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: iahawk15 on January 12, 2024, 11:01:00 AM
Hello from curacao.  Left Aruba yesterday.
Any recs? We'll be there in 2 weeks, staying off Eagle beach.

Debating on renting a jeep for the whole trip or renting a car and doing a 1 day UTV rental for the NE side.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 14, 2024, 08:07:31 AM
The Danes have a term Janteloven (The Law of Jante), created in 1933 by a Danish/Norwegian writer. It is often quoted in public debate in Denmark and consists of “Ten Commandments,” all boiling down to “You are no better than I am.”
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on January 14, 2024, 09:30:36 AM
Living in Cleveland, i'm budgeting more for trips.. my body keeps telling me I need more natural sunlight and there's NONE from late november until May here.
Nonsense a few yrs back there was plenty of sunshine,of course the clouds clear away and the heat escaped and the Great Lakes froze over.But plenty of sunlight bouncing off the snow 🥶
Yup brightest,sunniest Day of the Winter so far,of course it was 4° when i woke - up to 8° now though :celebrate:
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2024, 02:34:49 PM
Quite chili here in Florida. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2024, 02:35:08 PM
Or chilly. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2024, 02:37:20 PM
Me getting my HoF jacket. 

(https://i.imgur.com/SK39LZC.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 14, 2024, 02:38:20 PM
all the hard work and money spent on lessons paid off!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2024, 03:21:06 PM
Mostly $$$$$.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 14, 2024, 03:24:35 PM
can't take it with ya
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2024, 07:33:35 AM
Quite chili here in Florida.
We didn't get home until yesterday due to a plane from Pittsburgh not getting to DFW.

Yesterday was quite cold and rainy. I think the high was 59.

Was talking to some folks who have been here for 30 years, and they said this has been the coldest "winter" they've had.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on January 15, 2024, 08:06:22 AM
We didn't get home until yesterday due to a plane from Pittsburgh not getting to DFW.

Yesterday was quite cold and rainy. I think the high was 59.

Was talking to some folks who have been here for 30 years, and they said this has been the coldest "winter" they've had.
A friend of mine has been down in Fort Myers since Wednesday, and he says it's been raining the entire time. 

Beautiful couple of days up here in Destin, but a strong cold front is coming through tomorrow and a hard freeze with it. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2024, 08:23:38 AM
It gets better.

(https://i.imgur.com/5CK6p1V.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 15, 2024, 09:01:27 AM
brother has snow on the ground in Dallas/FW

actually white, hasn't melted yet
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on January 15, 2024, 09:06:30 AM
https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1746884459050226104?t=7Fz8mpgG9tRC0lElTMWdyg&s=19
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 15, 2024, 10:17:03 AM
brother has snow on the ground in Dallas/FW

actually white, hasn't melted yet
We got a little here too.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: longhorn320 on January 15, 2024, 10:41:03 AM
We got a little here too.
none here just mixed rain and sleet 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2024, 10:41:42 AM
None here.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2024, 10:45:42 AM
Cabo was... OK.

Weather was nice, a little nippy at times. Lots of sun. Typical tourist traps downtown.

Favorite place is the world's smallest bar. Slims.

(https://i.imgur.com/YP4Nn2r.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 15, 2024, 11:06:01 AM
been there
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 15, 2024, 11:06:15 AM
too cold to snow here
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 15, 2024, 11:09:09 AM
Rain here.   Sposed to clear.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 16, 2024, 10:43:33 AM
A couple days off helps sore muscles etc. time to start back. Rain today though. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on January 16, 2024, 04:03:26 PM
Just got back from the ABC Islands. First time there was quite nice, beautiful beaches, nice weather. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Entropy on January 17, 2024, 07:07:31 PM
jealous...   though I appreciate B and C much more than A.   Aruba feels too much like Florida to me.  Nothing against Florida, but when I vacation out of the states, I like it to feel out of the states.   All that said, it's difficult to have a bad time at any of them.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 21, 2024, 12:58:12 PM
Had lunch at Portillos.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Kris60 on January 21, 2024, 06:34:09 PM
Got about 8-10 inches in my yard right now  over the course of a few days.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 25, 2024, 04:24:02 PM
Back from baseball, in decent shape.  We spent a few days in Orlando doing nothing.  Seven hour drive back, not too bad.  New vehicle is more comfortable.  Was getting 32-33 mpg highway and more like 36 around town, which seems odd but is typical of mild hybrids.  I cranked up the stereo a bit at times on XM and it sounded decent, the car is really quiet at speed.  Orlando is a mess, but we stay in Bueana Vista, which also is a mess, and I ran a bit.  I can't spel Bueano.  

The camp was really neat, for me anyway.  I had a few highlights, not as many as I'd like, but I'm old.  A few players in their 30s are pretty decent.

My limit driving is 8 hours, I could do more of course, but beyond that we fly.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 25, 2024, 06:53:33 PM
Headed up to Paso Robles first thing tomorrow morning for the weekend. In-laws are in town. We used to do a trip there in March each year for the wine club that we're both members to who hosted a big party every year, but we decided the weekend was too hectic and the party had kinda become less fun (for us; it's still a good time) over the years. 

So looking forward to some good wine, some good dinners, and some good times. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 26, 2024, 06:32:44 AM
Paso is kind of unappreciated, I think.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 26, 2024, 09:19:10 AM
A thing that stood out for me on our trip was how many trucks are on the road and how many truck places there are, warehouses, exchange centers, etc.  I presume a truck may unload at these places for some reason, I saw two new ones that were enormous, probably 40 bays.  I actually am not sure what they do.

When I was a young driver there were very few semis on the road, and of course Interstates in the South were incomplete.  It seems like an inefficient means of transporting goods, though obviously it works just in time etc.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on January 26, 2024, 01:15:46 PM
Every time we drive to my in-laws in Michigan, eastbound 94 going out of the Twin Cities is clogged with semi trucks. So is 80/90/94 in northern Indiana by the time we get there in the afternoon.

Compared with other methods of overland shipping, trucking is extremely inefficient and runs with a substantial, albeit indirect, subsidy.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 26, 2024, 01:22:56 PM
Trucking must have some major advantage in flexibility and ease of scheduling and delivery, or something.  I appreciate that rail is limited in terms of locations of course.

There are a LOT of'em.  I'd like to understand how those huge buildings with loading docks one after the other function.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 26, 2024, 05:46:10 PM
racks of material and fork trucks
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on January 26, 2024, 06:50:48 PM
80-94 may be worst segment of Interstate in US.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 27, 2024, 08:21:03 AM
We drove by (and into a couple just to look) various "retirement communities" in FL.  They aren't for us, cookie cutter homes that aren't that cheap on tiny lots.  I'd as soon be in a condo building with some shared amenties.  It's obviously a huge industry there, and I know the interiors can be pretty nice.  There is a LOT of space still available, though highways will be at a premium to manage traffic.  I can see for golfers there is allure, and they often have a central club house for playing bridge etc.

I was a bit surprised how expensive they are.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 27, 2024, 08:30:43 AM
"Cheap" and "Florida" do not play well together.

I-75 sucks too.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 27, 2024, 08:48:04 AM
The Cheapest Michelin Star Meals Around the World Revealed

The research concluded that eight out of the 10 most affordable Michelin-star restaurants in the world are located in Asia. Number one on the list goes to Singapore’s beloved Liao Fan Hong Kong Soya Sauce Chicken Rice & Noodle whose most expensive item will set you back $2.20, while number two goes to Hong Kong’s Tim Ho Wan.

In Europe, the cheapest restaurant goes to L’Antic Moli, a former flour mill located in El Castell, Spain. Their set lunch menu will cost you $16.60. In the US, guests can feast in Al’s Place for $18.While 49 out of the 50 cheapest restaurants only have one Michelin Star to their names, Tuju, a two-star restaurant based in Sao Paulo, has made the cut at number 14.

The Brazilian restaurant serves a seasonal menu of native and specially handpicked products from the region. The set lunch menu goes for $22.40 a head.To give you a clearer picture, the most expensive restaurant, Sublimotion, which is run by 2-Michelin Star Chef Paco Roncero, charges $1,761 for a set menu -- two dollars more expensive than if you eat in all the 50 restaurants combined!
________________________

of course, Al’s Place in San Fran has been permanently closed for a while


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 27, 2024, 09:39:40 AM
I've been to what now is a One Star here, Bacchanalia, it's $110 pre fixe, and it's quite good really.

We supposedly have lunch reservations in Marseille at a 3 star which a local tells me is "the best restaurant in France" ...

Tres cher.

We fly out Monday, our travel schedule is extreme, for us.  March is Japan and South Korea.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 27, 2024, 09:43:58 AM
not sure why you'd want to punish yourself like that
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 27, 2024, 10:13:43 AM
Yeah, it sorta just happened.  I blame my wife.

I actually am looking forward to it all, but the air travel will be a bit much for me.  I'm hoping we might get upgraded a bit going to France on Delta, maybe.  The Japan trip is on American where I have zero status.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 27, 2024, 10:15:51 AM
I'm not sure a larger chair, more legroom, or free drinks would be enough to make me want to be stuck on a plane that long
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 27, 2024, 10:37:28 AM
More leg room for me is a priority.  My worst flight was Toronto to Dubai, in coach, last year.

I find it "ironic"???? that we sailed through the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea where all the mess is happening now.  We basically did that trip just in time, I'd do almost no part of it today.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 27, 2024, 11:20:37 AM
you might have been lucky

timing is everything

I'm not betting on my timing in those regions
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on January 27, 2024, 01:01:22 PM
Yeah, it sorta just happened.  I blame my wife.

I actually am looking forward to it all, but the air travel will be a bit much for me.  I'm hoping we might get upgraded a bit going to France on Delta, maybe.  The Japan trip is on American where I have zero status.


Our Korea trip was on American, on which I don't have status either. I was able to upgrade to the bulkhead out and Premium Economy back for not much money. At 6'5" I need as much legroom as I can get.

What was worse was dragging our suitcases across DFW on a sprained ankle.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 27, 2024, 01:08:58 PM
Same. I've been stuck multiple times in coach international at 6'5" and it's rough. It's a necessary evil if you want to see the world... 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 27, 2024, 03:30:52 PM
I can see the world on the intranet
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2024, 07:34:52 AM
It's useful to visit places virtually, I think, the reality of them is often different of course.  And we're going to see my step daughter and some friends as well.

I've been to Marseille once before, it was, um, "interesting"? in places.  Kind of dirty really overall, strong winds blow  trash around.  Parts are nice of course.  We're also staying four nights in Aix which should be interesting, I hope.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 28, 2024, 07:56:33 AM
I honestly can't remember the last time we flew coach. All we fly is American (Executive Platinum) and Allegiant (no status).

You can get into the front seats on Allegiant for $25. That's what we do, but it's not that often we use them as the times and days are limited (for now). They will grow.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2024, 08:10:41 AM
Carte intégrale Fonfon 2023 - version 2 (chez-fonfon.com) (https://www.chez-fonfon.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/09/Carte-inteigrale-Fonfon-2023-version-2.pdf)

My wife wants to dine here, looks decent, to me.  

We're nearly always on Delta for obvious reasons, it used to have a hub in Cincy as well back in the day.  The Cincy airport has shrunk dramatically.

I keep reading about various expansion plans for ATL, the idea of a second airport was floated long ago and dropped.  They are enlarging the D Concourse now and speculate on a sixth runway, somewhere, I don't know where.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 28, 2024, 08:14:50 AM
Omaha's airport is supposedly getting a $900 million expansion
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 28, 2024, 08:26:29 AM
RSW is getting a nice expansion right now and will have a second runway in about 5 years.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2024, 08:33:31 AM
Nearly every flight we've been on for two years was completely full.  We had a red eye that wasn't.

Folks obviously are making up for lost time.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 28, 2024, 08:54:59 AM
Same here. Get email offers to get bumped all the time due to full flights.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2024, 09:11:38 AM
Bourride. Bouillabaisse’s Troubled Half Sister | by Francois de Melogue | Medium (https://pistouandpastis.medium.com/bourride-769779cd2ab5)

Huh, new one to me, hafta try it.

Rouille (Use this sauce on EVERYTHING)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2024, 09:16:50 AM
CHEZ FONFON, Marseille - Menu, Prices, Restaurant Reviews & Reservations - Tripadvisor (https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g187253-d1011491-Reviews-Chez_Fonfon-Marseille_Bouches_du_Rhone_Provence_Alpes_Cote_d_Azur.html)

I chuckle at the varied reviews of this place, mostly by Americans apparently.

Some claim the service is inattentive.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 30, 2024, 08:26:03 AM
CDG is still the worst airport. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 30, 2024, 08:41:38 AM
What makes it so?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 30, 2024, 08:53:32 AM
the French
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 30, 2024, 12:14:46 PM
Finally in hotel in Marseille.  Tired.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 30, 2024, 12:29:22 PM
Finally in hotel in Marseille.  Tired. 
Congratulations.  Now it is time to go jump into a vat of bouillabaisse.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 30, 2024, 12:37:06 PM
Or bourride.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 30, 2024, 12:39:15 PM
Or bourride. 
I'll allow it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 30, 2024, 02:38:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2V3vRRi.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 30, 2024, 02:40:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/eQye8s9.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 07:00:49 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HobX5VY.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 07:04:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YT6nkoH.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 08:43:24 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0oHWoaQ.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 08:43:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NLz0tiO.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 31, 2024, 08:46:04 AM
[img width=280.996 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/0oHWoaQ.png[/img]
grits??
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 08:48:10 AM
I asked but no.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 31, 2024, 08:49:50 AM
cream of wheat?
Malt-O-meal?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 10:13:58 AM
Polenta. 

(https://i.imgur.com/u3mshc9.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 31, 2024, 10:16:58 AM
So, grits.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on January 31, 2024, 12:59:19 PM
Is that outside of Turin?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 31, 2024, 01:18:56 PM
Is that outside of Turin?
He's in France, not Italy.  Marseilles and thereabouts.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 03:20:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/TCyRxPJ.png)

Yeah, Marseille. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 03:22:01 PM
Food here is pretty decent.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 31, 2024, 03:23:22 PM
Food here is pretty decent. 
Wine is tolerable, too.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 03:25:24 PM
I want to move here and open a BBQ place. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 31, 2024, 03:27:23 PM
I want to move here and open a BBQ place.
BBQ / brewery? I know a guy... 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 08:59:00 PM
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2980648/quotes/?item=qt2579329
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 09:04:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/tAX5zcQ.png)

Mirrored roof.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 09:05:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6LU3aXJ.jpg)

Huitres.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 09:06:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2mNqqOK.png)

Hommard.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 09:10:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xwixvcu.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 31, 2024, 10:18:17 PM
large oysters?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2024, 11:40:10 PM
They were good. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: longhorn320 on February 01, 2024, 12:15:46 AM
large oysters?
back home in Galveston we called them steaks
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 01, 2024, 08:10:49 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/rWI1OQB.png)

Lunch. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 01, 2024, 11:55:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/nFaurrK.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 01, 2024, 11:56:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/hxMALqp.png)

Hotel bar.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 01, 2024, 02:04:56 PM
Huîtres et homard, but no coquilles Saint-Jacques? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 01, 2024, 03:21:19 PM
Nope. I don’t control choices here.  Food has been meh.   
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 01, 2024, 06:01:15 PM
Well that's super disappointing.  Other than the food, there's not much appeal to Marseille, unless you're into dirty longshoremen...







(just kidding, there are some beautiful parts of the city and nearby areas, and it's also France's oldest city so tons of history)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 01, 2024, 07:00:14 PM
Yeah. One place said we had to call ahead a day for bourride which cost 70 euros.  Same with bouillabaisse.    Bummed. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 01, 2024, 08:45:20 PM
Yeah. One place said we had to call ahead a day for bourride which cost 70 euros.  Same with bouillabaisse.    Bummed.
That's absolutely crazy.  Bourride especially is supposed to be a provincial dish of the people.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 02, 2024, 05:13:16 AM
Inflation is real.

Spent $102 at the grocery store yesterday.

Didn't buy any meat.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on February 02, 2024, 07:45:08 AM
Well that half ounce of white truffles will do it Badge.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 02, 2024, 08:09:35 AM
Ha!

I have black in my fridge from our last trip to Florence. In a jar. Can't find that anywhere around here.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 03, 2024, 12:58:27 PM
Now in Aix.  Hotel is awesome.  

https://www.aquabella.fr/en/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlpHO29yPhAMVYpdQBh1DSgD1EAAYASAAEgIwyPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Have some stories later. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 03, 2024, 02:48:30 PM
I love Aix.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 03, 2024, 03:34:04 PM
I don't know what I'm missing

I'd like to be at Pebble Beach waiting on the rain.
With Cincy's credit card
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 03, 2024, 11:05:15 PM
Had dinner at the hotel.  Was quite good. Had lunch at friend’s place was excellent. Had lunch at 3 star place called A M. Was horrible. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 04, 2024, 10:11:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/LuvFD3T.png)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 04, 2024, 10:14:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/VCMfdj2.jpg)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 04, 2024, 10:15:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/mVBE9pT.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 04, 2024, 10:52:03 AM
Hot Dog House sounds better in French.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 04, 2024, 11:20:28 AM
So does everything. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on February 04, 2024, 01:07:22 PM
So does a quarter pounder with cheese. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 04, 2024, 02:19:00 PM
I wouldn't even eat one of those in France
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on February 05, 2024, 12:48:47 PM
That's a Royale with cheese. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 05, 2024, 04:36:04 PM
Food has taken a marked uptick in Aix.   
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 06, 2024, 08:44:40 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/pgcFqa3.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 06, 2024, 10:54:08 AM


Je suis Francais.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 06, 2024, 10:56:17 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KwdcuzK.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 06, 2024, 10:57:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/dhvmfkM.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 06, 2024, 11:41:55 AM
Looks chilly there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 06, 2024, 11:59:31 AM
A bit at sundown. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 08, 2024, 04:19:37 AM
Heading home from MRS.  Another weird airport.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 07:03:57 AM
Back home, long flights of course, they were all fine I suppose.  A few observations.

Why is CDG (Paris) so bad?

Every time we land, we seem to taxi forever.  You finally deplane usually needing a bathroom but encounter only long long corridors with multiple moving sidewalks.  The signage is confusing to the point my wife gets lost.  Finally we seem to get "somewhere" and find a bathroom, then go up an escalator, then walk, then down, then down again, then walk, then up again, THEN you get on some train you hope takes you to where your departing flight is scheduled to leave.  The train goes three stops and you get off and go down another escalator and FINALLY start to see some actual gates, but they aren't yours of course.  You walk walk walk again, then go down two escalators to find your gate, finally, a small waiting area, with no bathrooms of course, crowded with too many people.

Finally some gate agents show up and you ... get on a crowded bus, with everyone carrying stuff of course, and sneezing etc.  The bus takes eventually takes you to your plane where you walk up a winding staircase outside to the jetway and finally you get to stand in line, again, to get seated.

The Olympics by all accounts we heard will be a disaster.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 07:17:12 AM
Our friend in Marseille had highly recommended this three star Michelin place called "A-M".  My wife wanted to go, I tried several times to beg off, she was insistant, so "we" went, with my step daughter.  The menu, for lunch STARTS at 195 euros per person.  We get seated in this tiny place and the food starts coming out, bitesides portions served on rocks, plants, weird dishes, anything but a simple plate.  I try a few items, they are salty as heck.    My wife has my fish eggs.  I'm trying not to be a damper on this hyper expensive lunch but don't want to be there.  Another course comes out, same kind of deal, flower petals on "stuff", tiny bites with weird presentation, I don't know what half of it is, I try a few and give up.  Another course comes out, this time larger portions, but I'm done, I get up and excuse myself and go outside, by now I'm not feeling very well, the fresh air is good.  The head chef dude, who I'm told is "famous", is looking my way with a frown, I eat nothing on this round.  

A fourth course comes out, my wife says I don't want anything, so they take it back, eyebrows raised.  He and I have a brief staring match, who am I this cretin not to love his food?  Finnaly, it ends.  If this is three star stuff, I'm not a fan, it's pretentious weird crap, not great food.  My wife pays the bill.  I still don't say anything, my wife and stap daughter agree many things were too salty, I tried not to ruin the experience for them.

Alexandre Mazzia - 3* Guide Michelin- 5 Toques Gault&Millau (alexandre-mazzia.com) (https://www.alexandre-mazzia.com/)

In better news, we did have some good food, especially in Axe, just regular normal French food done well, but no bullaibaise.  My step daughter is a bit, um, flighty, and seemed to ignore my comments that I want that dish somewhere at least once.  So, she dragged us to various and sundry, Tunisian once, which was "OK" I guess.  A LOT of places were just closed for the season even though it was fairly crowded out in Marseille.

We dined twice at the hotel restaurant in Aix which was quite good.  I'm the only one in history to find bad food in France, and mediocre BBQ in Austin.



Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 07:27:44 AM
Aix, pronounced "X", is quite nice, we were there four full days.  The hotel was on the edge of the "car free old town", which is not car free, one had to be careful with motor bikes and vans and cars zipping around.  The market there was very neat, and large.  We walked a lot.  It's akin to how Paris used to be, my wife said, pretty clean (which Marseille is NOT), they wash the pavement every night.  The regular city is also nice, not much graffiti.

One day my wife hired a chauffeur to "take us around" which he did, he probably drove 120 miles or so visiting stuff, which was OK, but pricey to me.  Had an excellent lunch outside at a country club somewhere near Baux.  Baux is this old city built on top of a hill on cliffs in the Alpilles, kind of neat, it was COLD that day and windy.  I'm told in summer it's like Pigeon Forge in crowd level.  He took us to the Lacoste winery which was "OK" I guess.  

The hotel I chose in Aix was excellent, great location and amenities and restaurant and bar.

Aquabella Hotel & Spa - Guest Reservations (https://www.guestreservations.com/hotel-aquabella-aix-en-provence/booking?msclkid=cee28dd3b4381a127632e815ad3dfdf2)

This is the off season, which is good in that there are few tourists, but a lot of stuff is closed.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 07:36:37 AM
My favorite things I've done in France over time....

Not Paris, it's "OK" outside summer, and it's what most folks want to see and check off, OK, but for me, it's too much like Disney now.  My advice is go in March, maybe April.

Normandy, generally awesome, and Omaha Beach is worth the trip for sure.  Bayeux is a great place to stay.

Brittany, pretty good, my wife loves it there.  Good seafood.

Burgundy, awesome, getting commercial now, but some great food and wine.

Lyon, probably my favorite large city in France, great good.

Saumur, very nice smaller city with few tourist and great armor museum.

Chamonix, foot of the Alps, pretty amazing, a bit touristy.

Aix, see above.

Sancerre, really nice small town on top of a hill overlooking vineyards.  I like their wines a lot.  Good food, few tourists.

I'll add Barcelona, it's rep is well deserved I think.  

Getting around can be expensive of course, the trains work well, rental cars are "OK" but their "Interstates" are all tolls that bite.  Driving in France is "mostly" normal outside cities, the real back roads can be interesting.  The "Route Nationales" are usually fine.  You have to watch for speed traps, radar cameras, everywhere, and they love speed bumps and humps in towns.  Parking of course can be ... nonexistant... in cities.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 09, 2024, 07:52:08 AM
I see.....

Your choices - Good
Wife & Step daughter's choices - not so good
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 08:51:04 AM
A problem I've always had is simply being listened to, somehow, work, my wife, family, etc.  I'll say "I'd like to do X", maybe too softly?  Then I get mostly ignored, some lip service perhaps.  I might need to be more emphatic, which I tend not to be, so maybe folks think "OK, but he's really not meaning it".

Oddly enough, my wife thinks I have some supernatural ability to select places to dine.  It's pretty easy in France, and not that hard here either.

I noticed fairly often at work in some meeting I'd note something I thought relevant, then a lot of discussion ensues, then "the boss" says what I said earlier as if it's his or her insight.  I got used to it, and didn't much care in the last few years.  I'd often sit in meetings saying nothing at all unless asked something.  Nearly all meetings were to spend time on something rather than doing something about the issue anyway.

I told my wife after this that I was going to be more forceful in declining something in the future, she said that was OK, she thought I'd enjoy the restaurant experience.  I REALLY didn't want to go, and asked her several times to cancel or modify the reservation.  She said it was too late, or something like that.

The last time I attended something highly rated that I HATED was seeing Hamilton.  I agreed to go figuring it would be at least OK.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 09, 2024, 09:31:01 AM
I would not have gone to that A-M place. I'd let my wife go it alone even, which she would not. My wife is very frugal, which is good. Anyway,

I know it sounds mean, but if I didn't enjoy it, there is no way for her to enjoy it - even if she liked it.

We tend to avoid the Mich * restaurants. Been disappointed too many times.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 09:38:43 AM
We've gone to one not too far from us that got a one star recently, and we both like it quite a bit.  It's $110 per person, pre fixe, plus wine, so it's not cheap.

I did everything short of saying "I am NOT going".  She told me later she really wanted me to go and semi-apologized.  She should have gone with her daughter and they probably would have enjoyed it a lot more.  

There is another one star that is moving to quite near us, apparently, we'll try it.  On the whole, I'm delighted to dine at Fox Bros., or Hattie B's, or any number of other places in walking distance.  

Lazy Betty – Atlanta - a MICHELIN Guide Restaurant (https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/georgia/atlanta_2884144/restaurant/lazy-betty)

https://whatnowatlanta.com/midtown-atlanta-gets-an-unhurried-experience-with-lazy-betty-relocation/

As for A-M, I had some fun writing reviews on Yelp and Trip Advisor.

Oddly enough, the latter wouldn't allow me to use the term "pretentious" in my title.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 09, 2024, 09:41:49 AM
Those plates do NOTHING for me.

(https://i.imgur.com/90VsEdY.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 09:50:50 AM
This is typical of what we had at A-M.

(https://i.imgur.com/mAzyh3c.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 09:52:50 AM
And I appreciate elegant plating, and I often prefer a lot of different "bites" to one main meal.  But I found a limit to this.  And obviously the real "cognoscenti" turn their nose up at my preference, I don't care.

Lazy Betty isn't open here yet, I may stroll by and check how the refurb is going today.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on February 09, 2024, 09:55:05 AM
I'll stick with my ribeye grilled on my deck with a baked potato on the side eaten on my couch with an ice cold beer. 5 Michelin stars by my count. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 10:19:43 AM
The nice thing about steak is "we" can all fix a steak dinner about as good, if not better, than any restaurant, and a lot cheaper.  I think my "basic meals" are about as good as any retaurant's.  But we enjoy dining out a fair bit, and it's usually something I really can't fix at home.

But steak, pork chops, spaghetti, most chicken, I can do pretty well, and almost never order out.

This may not be your cup of tea, but we like it, quite a bit, which is why the "A-M' experience was so ... weird.

Bacchanalia — Star Provisions (https://www.starprovisions.com/bacchanalia)
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2024, 11:45:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/5nNtgFw.png)

This is not a thing I'd try and fix at home.    I'm not even sure what it is, but I'd eat it.

Recipes to celebrate Bacchanalia's 30 years (ajc.com) (https://www.ajc.com/things-to-do/food-and-recipes/recipes-to-celebrate-bacchanalias-30-years/VTIH777YQZHOVKRG3MBG6OOV7I/)

Separately, we had news of three local spots closing down because their rent was raised.  They were popular places, I'm not sure of the excuse.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 09, 2024, 03:26:03 PM
My area of the country is meat & taters 
those fancy white tablecloth joints die quick deaths
especially if the prices are high
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2024, 06:35:04 AM
When my kids left for college, I'd fix spaghetti on Monday and eat it all week until Friday.  My wife kids me about that.  I'd be content to do it now too, but she says she needs variation.  

I do think a fair bit of "dining out" is "for show".  I took her to a "famous" (renowned?) steakhouse here called Bones.  It seemed to me to be much more about "being seen" than the steak.  The steaks were fine, it's just apparently not the Point of it.

Movers and shakers, etc., and wannabes, more of the latter.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2024, 06:53:15 AM
So, someone asked a good question, why travel?  Is it just "something to do"?  Do you enjoy it?  Is it interesting?  Good questions, I think, with different answers for different folks (duh).

My least favorite aspect is "checking boxes", e.g., "We're in Paris, we need to see the Eifel Tower (etc.)", check, Notre Dame (check), and so forth.  I've never been in the Louvre, don't really intend to go, box unchecked.

My most favorite is visiting with locals, and the food (usually).  You can better get a feel of a place with locals.  We spent two weeks in Copenhagen, we both really liked that, not just the city, but the unhurried pace that this much time affords.

I'm interested in military history so I'll often make a side trip for that reason.  I find the terrain of battlefields is a lot different in person than on maps in photos.  (Waterloo terrain was significantly altered anyway.)  And museums of that ilk interest me, if not so much my wife.  We toured the Maginot Line, it's clearly impressive.  We both like wine and wine tours can be interesting.

Then of course there are scenic parts, we both enjoyed Zion for example.  I can sit at my computer and see a lot of this stuff but it makes me want to see them in person.

Then there is "going to the beach", somewhere just to relax and take it easy.  I think this is more a thing for folks still working.  I can relax pretty well here at home without all the trouble.

It obviously comes down to choices, do you want to play golf at the same course over and over and over?  Maybe so.  Eat the same set of meals all the time?  Fine.  Listen to the same music, see the same scenes, are you missing out not traveling?  Up to you.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 10, 2024, 07:56:52 AM
Variety is good.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 10, 2024, 09:20:15 AM
I had 6 different beers last night

variety

Listened to my friend and his son play as a blues duo from Cincy in the hotel lobby in Des Moines

a great night with good people and variety

only 3 hours from home in the sedan and paired with a work trip, not really out of my way

(https://i.imgur.com/IP7rzOh.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 11, 2024, 06:03:11 AM
It shouldn't need saying of course that one can find good enjoyment visiting places close to home, or easily accessed.  I suspect many folks may overlook this option because of the apparent allure of traveling to "Paris".  The latter sounds good, anyway, versus "We went to state park 50 miles away and had a great time."  

I suspect some folks book trips to "Paris" to have something to say to others at parties etc.

This reminds me of some lady I barely knew who had a son the same age as mine who just graduated HS.  She asked me what Chris would be doing this summer after telling me about her son (which was fine).  I told her he was going to some French beach resort in South Carolina where they had camp counselors, a great exercise program, swimming, camping out, even shooting rifles.  AND, they got paid for it!

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 11, 2024, 08:49:35 AM
Those plates do NOTHING for me.

[img width=500 height=205.989]https://i.imgur.com/90VsEdY.jpg[/img]
https://youtu.be/p-FX_7SFSsM
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 11, 2024, 08:57:51 AM
We have zero desire to go to Paris. The South would be more for us and our likings. Nice looks nice.
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 11, 2024, 09:17:18 AM
I've only been through Nice.  My wife didn't want to spend any time there, she says it's "snooty".  Aix and Avignon were both nice, to us anyway.  St. Tropez was definitely "snooty".  I suspect most folks got to Paris for a week and see the usual sites and think they've done France, which is OK I guess.

I have enjoyed staying in smaller towns (usually) for a few days.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 11, 2024, 09:38:28 AM
We have zero desire to go to Paris. The South would be more for us and our likings. Nice looks nice.
Paris Texas serves a nice med rare T-bone with a baked tater and either corn or green beans
Iced tea
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 11, 2024, 10:40:57 AM
I've only been through Nice.  My wife didn't want to spend any time there, she says it's "snooty".  Aix and Avignon were both nice, to us anyway.  St. Tropez was definitely "snooty".  I suspect most folks got to Paris for a week and see the usual sites and think they've done France, which is OK I guess.

I have enjoyed staying in smaller towns (usually) for a few days.
Yeah, when we went it was only 3 days and we did Versailles, the Louvre, Notre Dame, the Eiffel, etc... Enjoyed it, but it was definitely about seeing the major attractions. 

At this point I go back to France I'd like to go somewhere other than Paris... 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 11, 2024, 10:51:13 AM
yup, when I travel I shy away from major cities and tourist attractions

daughters and I are planning a trip to the Bay area the first week of 2025

we will do a day in San Fran - the wharf and possibly a cable car ride, whatever they chose
Lodging across the bay in Tiburon

the rest of the trip will be spent north in Sonoma or Napa wine country and Redwoods 
and south along the coast and the Monterey Peninsula
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 11, 2024, 11:53:14 AM
Napa, for me, is overly commercialized (and expensive), and crowded often as not.  Parts of Sonoma are getting that way.  

We went to a winery in France and they too are making hay on tourists, some of them anyway, and it's spreading.  



Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 11, 2024, 12:54:33 PM
Napa, for me, is overly commercialized (and expensive), and crowded often as not.  Parts of Sonoma are getting that way. 



Yep. I think parts of Paso Robles are getting that way too. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 11, 2024, 01:10:43 PM
Yep. I think parts of Paso Robles are getting that way too.
Been a while since I was there. How is Temecula?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 11, 2024, 01:10:48 PM
I liked Nice, not overly snooty, not like St. Tropez anyway.  Between the Riviera and Provence, the South of France is pretty great.  Definitely my favorite part.

Throw in Bordeaux which is lovely, people are nice, and they make the best wine on the planet.  I visited a lot of the Chateaus while I was there but at the time they weren't really doing the wine tour thing the way California does, which was wonderful and pleasant.  I haven't been to Bordeaux in over a decade though so have no idea what the wine tours might be like, now.

I also enjoyed my time in Nantes along the Loire River valley, nice people and also a good wine region for whites, Sauvignon Blanc specifically.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 11, 2024, 01:15:15 PM
Tuscany is a great place for wine tours. This one was my favorite.

Homepage - La Sala (https://www.lasala.it/site/en/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 11, 2024, 01:20:43 PM
We drank a ton of wine in Tuscany but sadly didn't make time for any wine tours.  I'd definitely be down for some when we go back.

Next summer 2025 is our target for re-attempting the Euro trip we had planned for 2020 that we had to scuttle for obvious reasons.  Since then we've had the pandemic with its random openings/closings in Europe for a couple of years, then just life and whatnot since the kids got older and have WAY more activities on their plates.

The plan in 2020 was Budapest, Croatia, and then Greece.  But in the current climate there's not a chance I'd go to Hungary so now I'm thinking Italy, Croatia, Greece.  Maybe a bit of France before Italy too, we'll see.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 11, 2024, 01:32:55 PM
Been a while since I was there. How is Temecula?
Been a while since I've been down there actually... Definitely pre-pandemic... Might have even been 2018. 

The last time I was there I didn't find much of the wine all that impressive, but it's not like I've been there enough to give it a truly fair opinion. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 11, 2024, 03:24:58 PM
Napa, for me, is overly commercialized (and expensive), and crowded often as not.  Parts of Sonoma are getting that way. 

We went to a winery in France and they too are making hay on tourists, some of them anyway, and it's spreading. 




I'll be taking advice from betarhoalphadelta
He's already given me a few tips
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 11, 2024, 11:08:50 PM
I'll be taking advice from betarhoalphadelta
He's already given me a few tips
Happy to help. Make sure to check out Russian River Brewing in Santa Rosa. All the wineries choose by 5 so it's good for dinner and beer. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 12, 2024, 05:49:37 AM
We drove up to Temecula from SD a couple years back with the family, I was unimpressed.  They charged Napa prices for tastings and didn't have Napa quality, at least where we visited.  We could well have hit the wrong spot.  

Paso is on my list to visit, I've never been there.  I'd also like to venture around Lake and Mendocino.  There is a small town on the slopes of the Sierra called Murphy that has a slew of tasting rooms, free last time I was there.  Wine was decent enough.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 12, 2024, 08:05:05 AM
Florida train: Brightline lowers ridership projections for 2024 (tcpalm.com) (https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/local/florida/2024/02/09/florida-rail-brightline-train-lowers-ridership-projections-south-florida-miami-orlando-route/72426990007/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 12, 2024, 09:39:55 AM
Happy to help. Make sure to check out Russian River Brewing in Santa Rosa. All the wineries choose by 5 so it's good for dinner and beer.
not far from Northwood golf club
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 12, 2024, 04:32:53 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/business/michelin-guide-history/index.html
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 12, 2024, 05:11:33 PM
Decent movie related to a difficult chef chasing Michelin stars...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2503944/

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Mdot21 on February 12, 2024, 05:44:58 PM
Florida train: Brightline lowers ridership projections for 2024 (tcpalm.com) (https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/local/florida/2024/02/09/florida-rail-brightline-train-lowers-ridership-projections-south-florida-miami-orlando-route/72426990007/)
makes sense. they raised their prices. A LOT. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 12, 2024, 07:45:26 PM
Typical death spiral of commuter rail. Ridership doesn't meet projections so they have to raise prices, which depresses ridership, rinse and repeat. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Mdot21 on February 12, 2024, 08:03:05 PM
Typical death spiral of commuter rail. Ridership doesn't meet projections so they have to raise prices, which depresses ridership, rinse and repeat.
as long as the rail is owned by privately held for profit companies and there's no public ownership or publicly subsidized component to it- just bound to happen.

my guess here is that they didn't raise prices because of failure to meet ridership projections- they flat out were just always going to have to raise prices significantly in an attempt to recoup all the money they laid out to build new stations and build completely brand new rail track from West Palm Beach up to Orlando. It cost them several billions to build that new rail, those new trains, and that shiny big new station in Orlando.

And Orlando wasn't the only new station they built in the past couple of years. The trains originally went only from downtown Miami to downtown Ft Lauderdale to downtown West Palm- which is a traffic corridor from hell whether you're taking 95 or the turnpike. They then built a new station in Aventura at the Aventura Mall and then another new station near Mizner Park/downtown Boca Raton. Those two unnecessary stations alone had to have cost couple hundred million if not more.

They expanded/grew too fast without regard to money and spent way too much money on expansion. It made sense for people to want to take it and avoid hellacious traffic when it was relatively cheap and went from West Palm to Ft Lauderdale to Miami. Now the rates for those routes have doubled, tripled, and even quadrupled in price and it has two additional stops in between with Boca and Aventura which lengthens the travel time a little bit. And then the rates for Miami or West Palm to Orlando don't really make sense. You can fly on budget airlines way cheaper if you have a family of 4 or just drive the 3 and a half hours.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 13, 2024, 07:29:57 AM
Americans prefer driving, usually.  Family of four, single cost for all, and you don't need to rent a car on the other end.  I thought BL stood a chance of making it, and maybe they do, you expect to lose a lot of money early on.  But as noted, a family has to drive to the station, buy tix for 4, take the ride, rent a car on the other end, and drive to the hotel.  

Or they can just drive, and endure bad traffic, or get up at 6 AM and beat it.

As noted, it's private monies, unlike that albatross out west (CA HSR).

I see various ethereal proposals for train from here to Charlotte or Savannah, it's the same deal, with less traffic.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Mdot21 on February 13, 2024, 08:11:26 AM
Americans prefer driving, usually.  Family of four, single cost for all, and you don't need to rent a car on the other end.  I thought BL stood a chance of making it, and maybe they do, you expect to lose a lot of money early on.  But as noted, a family has to drive to the station, buy tix for 4, take the ride, rent a car on the other end, and drive to the hotel. 

Or they can just drive, and endure bad traffic, or get up at 6 AM and beat it.

As noted, it's private monies, unlike that albatross out west (CA HSR).

I see various ethereal proposals for train from here to Charlotte or Savannah, it's the same deal, with less traffic.
yeah, you have to Uber to the station which costs money- or park at the station-which is I want to say $10 a day. I have taken the BL from West Palm to Miami maybe a dozen or so times here and there before all the expansion- and I was paying $5 to $15 each way depending on day and time of day. Not too bad. Now it's rare to get a ticket on that route for under $25 each way- and some times the fares are as much as $50+ each way. 10000% not worth it at that price. Last time I took it was because I was flying out of Miami and didn't feel like driving. I want to say the tickets were around $30-40 each way. Now that's basically the only time I'll take it- when I have to fly out of Miami.

And the fares from Miami or West Palm to Orlando are $79 to $149- each way- depending on time of day and day. $160 to $300 for one ticket isn't worth it. Especially with a family of 4- that's $640 to $1,200. You can rent a car and drive cheaper and in many instances also fly cheaper. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 13, 2024, 08:15:02 AM
Folks often point to the TGV in France (and elsewhere) and ask why we can't do the same thing, and of course "we" could, with heavy government involvement ($$$$$$$).  The TGV operates at a significant loss of course, something only governments can "manage" (for a while).  And it gets built with government funding, entirely.  So they never try and recover the sunk capital, and couldn't.  And it's still pricey, about $100 one way Paris to Marseille.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Mdot21 on February 13, 2024, 08:22:14 AM
Folks often point to the TGV in France (and elsewhere) and ask why we can't do the same thing, and of course "we" could, with heavy government involvement ($$$$$$$).  The TGV operates at a significant loss of course, something only governments can "manage" (for a while).  And it gets built with government funding, entirely.  So they never try and recover the sunk capital, and couldn't.  And it's still pricey, about $100 one way Paris to Marseille.
yeah, people always complain about the HSR here and try to compare us to Europe, but all those govt's put serious public funds into the rail, operate at loss, and it just makes more sense for people over there to use the rail because of the cost of driving over there. same make/trim car in US is always going to be less than in EU and of course our gasoline prices are way lower as well.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 13, 2024, 08:28:12 AM
Gasoline in France is near $2/liter, which would be $7.60 per gallon.  They usually drive smaller diesel cars which would get 60 mpg on the highway, or better, so it's not that different from driving a Camry here at 35 mpg highway at $3 per gallon.  The tolls however are a bite.

Paris to Marseille is 482 miles with $70 in tolls.  Still, at 60 mpg, it's 8 gallons of Diesel, which is cheaper there than gasoline, so about $60 in fuel.


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 18, 2024, 02:06:32 AM
Working in Italy rest of the month. So much of walking the cities looks like this - narrower streets traveled by smaller cars and crowded on either side by the many, endless apartment towers lived in by the whole of urbanized Europe:

(https://i.imgur.com/Ytpu6hp.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 18, 2024, 09:09:04 AM
Where is that?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:23:02 PM


Lovely tropical Hawii ...(https://i.imgur.com/3gOEvAa.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:23:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/380ddH1.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:23:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QbbSEWh.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:24:38 PM


This is about 45 miles distant from the above.(https://i.imgur.com/mrqPgUk.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:25:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OumhpM2.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:25:46 PM


This is about 25 miles distant from the above.(https://i.imgur.com/uFsfDN0.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:26:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ITKcjrh.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:31:35 PM

Les Apilles, Provence France.
(https://i.imgur.com/a8mzYrJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:32:18 PM


(https://i.imgur.com/E5I7NYS.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/0Gx32Dk.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:32:41 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/y5qs3GX.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2024, 12:34:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sM3V6IB.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 19, 2024, 05:37:21 AM
Where is that?

One of the village streets a few blocks away from the shores of Gulf of Gaeta, 90 miles south of Rome on the Mediterranean Coast. Far enough away from Rome and Naples to lose the droves of tourists. The local, smaller city population is uniformly Italian in the everyday sense of dining almost exclusively on pastas and pizzas, sipping morning espresso over newspapers in the sidewalk café bars, attending Catholic mass on Sundays, and entertaining themselves on soccer.

Needless to say to anyone who has spent time across the pond – for as modern as Europe is, the Old World persists and is often developed around, such as modern apartment structures built adjacent to ancient stonewalls dating back a millennia ago. For example the Castello Angioino pictured below dates back to the 1100s but wasn’t fortified into a military stronghold until occupations by later monarchies. The town resting below the castle is the medieval section of the bay; the large bay itself rounds south toward Naples, following the shoreline mountains in the distance across the waters.

(https://i.imgur.com/A1jEj5p.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 19, 2024, 07:20:50 AM
My wife and I discuss going somewhere like that for 2-3 months to see how it is, probably in Provence.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 19, 2024, 08:07:48 AM
2-3 months?? Not weeks?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 19, 2024, 08:45:30 AM
Months.  I'm restricted currently to 90 days in the Schengen zone, so that's an upper limit.  I'm not sure I'd do two months personally, it's just a topic of conversation.

I like living here just fine, and there are a lot of places I'd like to explore I've not yet been.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 19, 2024, 09:12:09 AM
My wife and I discuss going somewhere like that for 2-3 months to see how it is, probably in Provence.
I could do 2-3 months in Provence.  Of course, if I did, there's the distinct possibility I might never come back.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on February 19, 2024, 09:13:12 AM
Has anyone ever done a European river cruise? I'm very interested in one of those. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 19, 2024, 09:14:03 AM
Apparently, we'd just need to get our marriage certified in France and I could apply for citizenship in five years.  It's not that easy apparently.

Weird.  Anyway, we're not going to do that.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 19, 2024, 09:15:43 AM
Has anyone ever done a European river cruise? I'm very interested in one of those.
We have, on the Rhine.  It was kind of a cut rate operation put together by a retiree group, not Viking or that ilk.  It was pretty good, I'd say, my wife was no so impressed.  We saw a lot of different places.  A lot of the tours were pretty bad really, we walked off several of them.

I think it's likely an excellent way to see a lot of places easily, but I'd pay more to do Viking even though you don't get to pillage cities with them.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 19, 2024, 09:19:55 AM
Months.  I'm restricted currently to 90 days in the Schengen zone, so that's an upper limit.  I'm not sure I'd do two months personally, it's just a topic of conversation.

I like living here just fine, and there are a lot of places I'd like to explore I've not yet been.
let me know if you need a house sitter in January or February
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 19, 2024, 09:24:57 AM
The "house" takes care of itself other than a few plants that need watering.

At least here it's fairly warm, supposed to be 70°F on Thursday.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 19, 2024, 09:28:03 AM
let me know if you need a house sitter in January or February
You should probably just move there. Or Florida.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 19, 2024, 09:28:53 AM
I wouldn't charge much.
Just fill the fridge with cheap beer

I'm traveling Nebraska this week.
60's in Lincoln and possibly 72 by next Monday

attending the Bockfest with my daughter saturday afternoon
Polka bands and sausage and 3 bocks on tap!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 20, 2024, 03:56:31 AM
attending the Bockfest with my daughter saturday afternoon
Polka bands and sausage and 3 bocks on tap!



(https://i.imgur.com/FPAXuwI.gif)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 20, 2024, 10:40:24 AM
Passerelle Bistro - Food Menu (passerelleinthepark.com) (https://passerelleinthepark.com/greenville-passerelle-bistro-food-menu)

Found a place for bouillabaisse.

Bouillabaisse
$26.00
saffron stock, mussels, red snapper, shrimp, cherry tomato, red pepper, garlic, grilled baguette, red pepper rouille


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 21, 2024, 07:53:18 AM
I'm reading that:

Japan has 100 v electricity that works fine with US plugs, usually.

South Korea has 220 v power that works fine with Euro plugs.  Usually.

Anyone been who could confirm?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 22, 2024, 05:51:57 AM
Giving thought to life in Europe vs America—
Everybody who wants to can own a vehicle. Difference in Europe is these are shabbier, smaller, nearly golf cart sized Fiat Pandas, Volkswagen UPs, and Peugeot 108s (see below). None selling brand new for more than $17k. In America your choices for lower end models are larger and pricier. An increasing portion of the American public is priced out of buying a new car, yet in Europe, with less discretionary spending power, there seem to be more models available to the lower classes. Models that would never sell well in America.

This can be analogized to Healthcare, where in Europe general healthcare is more financially accessible. Yet in the three European nations where I’ve lived short term – Slovakia, Croatia, and here in Italy – I’ve heard resident Americans whine about how the healthcare is stuck back in the 70s & 80s. Meanwhile, America has the world’s most technologically advanced healthcare yet this raises the overall cost of healthcare, pricing out many Americans. That’s the tradeoff.

Same with America’s university system, renowned as best in the world, yet increasingly unaffordable; whereas student debt is comparatively minimal in Europe.

The Greatest Country in the World severely indebts its citizens to be the Greatest Country in the World.

Drown in America’s debt to be the best? Or live Europe’s scaled back life?

(https://i.imgur.com/XPdZu2c.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 22, 2024, 08:27:10 AM
One thing my wife points out here is how "efficient" government is, relatively speaking.  We don't think so, but we don't have a point of reference.  When we moved here, we went to thhe DMV to get DLs etc. thinking it might take hours, it took less than 30 minutes, done, registered to vote, cancelled in Ohio, new license.  She was astonished.

She and her brother owned a small lot of land in France zoned agricultural, but nobody wanted it as such.  They tried and tried to get it rezoned residential as it was potentially a pretty decent building lot.  After years, nothing, they couldn't get it done.

Crime is another big issue, at least in France.  If you own a house, you have to have high walls around it, all of it, and they do.  The police are uninterested in property crimes, they treat you like a criminal if you report one.  We had a large group of French retirees over to Cincy and some of them we knew visited our house and marveled that we had no fence, and asked how that could be?  I looked at the dude and said "Everyone is armed", which was not really true.  Go into a suburban area near Paris or Lyon and you'll see what I mean.

Taxes of course are much higher, on nearly everything (not wine).  Interstate highways are all toll roads outside a city.  Not just income taxes, but there is a VAT around 20% on everything you buy.  It's not shown of course, like here.  So common ordinary items are pretty expensive, though I will note they tend to wear nicer clothes.  She tells me that ordinary functions like dry cleaning is much higher there.

I had friends/coworkers who lived there (Germany, Belgium, England) who were at my level, they lived in much smaller houses and more frugally overall.  When they visited us, they said they felt like we owned a mansion.

They are of course many pros to Europe.  But my wife does NOT want to move to France, at all, ever.  It's a lot of little things.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 22, 2024, 08:36:38 AM
I haven't been to the dry cleaner since my divorce.  20 years ago.

probably nothing to brag about
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 22, 2024, 08:40:24 AM
MEDELLIN, Colombia (AP) — The lush valley enveloping Medellin was once the heart of a brutal war involving the Colombian government, drug cartels and a smattering of other armed groups.

But a sharp dip in violence in the country’s second-biggest city has attracted a flood of tourists to its vivid colors, busy cafes and booming nightlife. About 1.4 million visited last year, many of them American.

Now the tourism boom has presented officials with a new set of dark challenges, including an uptick in sex trafficking and the killing of tourists and Colombian women after rendezvous on dating apps.

“This area has spun out of control,” Medellin Mayor Federico Gutiérrez said recently while touring a park known for the sex trade.

The killings prompted the U.S. Embassy in Bogota to warn in January that some tourists had been slipped drugs and were later robbed or killed. American officials cautioned men against using dating apps. The apps offer a way to seek out sex workers, whose business is not criminalized in Colombia.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 22, 2024, 09:23:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/i94XW2v.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 22, 2024, 09:26:11 AM
that's not a Panda
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 22, 2024, 09:32:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Q1AMUvt.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 22, 2024, 10:00:10 AM
One thing my wife points out here is how "efficient" government is, relatively speaking.  We don't think so, but we don't have a point of reference.  When we moved here, we went to thhe DMV to get DLs etc. thinking it might take hours, it took less than 30 minutes, done, registered to vote, cancelled in Ohio, new license.  She was astonished.
It's like that here too. I was shocked.

DL, registered to vote, license plates, all in about 30 minutes. We dealt with one person for everything.

In Illinois, to get all of that done, you'd need a half day off work, and you deal with 10-12 people, all with their own lines. I'm not kidding.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 22, 2024, 10:05:31 AM
It's like that here too. I was shocked.

DL, registered to vote, license plates, all in about 30 minutes. We dealt with one person for everything.

In Illinois, to get all of that done, you'd need a half day off work, and you deal with 10-12 people, all with their own lines. I'm not kidding.
People bag on California, but the DMV process here is actually relatively efficient. It's improved significantly in the 20+ years I've been here, with a much greater ability to schedule appointments which smooths the process significantly.

I do understand it can be hit or miss depending on location though... I usually prefer to drive a little farther to a location I know is less busy. The last time I had to renew my license was also the time I had to do all the Real ID stuff, and I was in and out in about 15 minutes by having an appointment and picking that location. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 22, 2024, 10:12:57 AM
My experience in continental Europe differs from Catsby and is more akin to CD's.  Working class families only have one car, even in small cities/towns and suburbs that aren't walkable for everything you need, as you'd find in the large cities.

As CD points out, pretty much everything is more expensive there.  WAY more expensive.  Except for wine.

Crime is crazy-- my rental car in Catania, Sicily was stolen right out from in front of the hotel where I'd parked it normally and legally.  When I went to the agency and told them, they just issued me another one.  They warned my if it happened again then I might need to fill out some paperwork.

From the American perspective, modern cars last 10-13 years pretty easy these days with only basic preventative maintenance, so there's no need to buy an expensive new car when you can buy a serviceable used car at a reasonable price, and not have to worry it will fall apart in a couple of years, as you would have 20-30 years ago.

Americans are in debt because they choose to be.  They choose to live beyond their means, buy more expensive luxury items when they could settle for something less expensive that would still be functional, choose to buy expensive Starbucks coffees when they could make their own for far less, etc.




Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 22, 2024, 10:20:14 AM
Seeing Starbucks all over France is rather depressing, to me.  We'd have breakfast at a Paul's which is a small chain with good coffee and pastries etc.  It would run about $16 depending, not really worse than here.  I usually get a bottle of wine if we dine out here and of course it's 2-3x retail.  In France, it often is the same as retail, maybe 20-30% more.  So, I ssave enough on wine to make dining out about the same price.

We hit the outdoor markets in Aix pretty often in part because we both really like them.  You can get some really good values there on clothing, and shoes, etc., maybe it's stuff that 'fell off a truck'.  I got a decent scarf for ten Euros.  And the food items looked really nice, stuff from North Africa mostly in February.  It made me want to cook.

As noted before, the price of Diesel there is lower than that for gasoline, and the small cars get 60+ mpg highway.  Even a midsized rental car gets about that in my experience.  They tend to be all manuals of course, from Hertz or Enterprise.  I had a minivan once that was a manual.  They drive OK.

They learn how to "get around".  They all seem to despise Macron, but the alternatives they mostly say are worse.  They love talking politics.  So, we may  take some comfort in noting that our options maybe are no worse than theirs.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 22, 2024, 10:58:48 AM
Starby's in France or Italy is just an abomination.

On the flipside, I actually really liked seeing McDonald's in France.  After I'd been there for a couple of months, I started to long for something familiar.  So once per week I allowed myself to hit up Mickey D's.  That's when I figured out you could go thru the drive-thru and order a beer as the drink portion of your combo meal. You could even order a beer as the drink portion of a Happy Meal, no lie.

"Menu Big Mac avec bière, s'il vous plait."

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 22, 2024, 11:16:36 AM
There is very little crime in the Netherlands. Portugal is right up there with them.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 22, 2024, 05:26:39 PM
A Lavish Encounter With a Bowlus Volterra Luxury Travel Trailer (motortrend.com) (https://www.motortrend.com/features/bowlus-volterra-luxury-travel-trailer-overnight-review/?sm_id=organic%3Asm_id%3Afb%3AMT%3Atrueanthem&fbclid=IwAR27aCflYIxQliXNdG02Ge9cFO8Mxxs9esLgkjKpjDtFk9UsGJaLXRuQ2Bg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ulpYzPQ.png)

We rounded the corner and there it was. Behold, the Bowlus Volterra in all its polished glory (https://www.motortrend.com/features/2023-bowlus-volterra-all-electric-travel-trailer/) beckoned us, lowly us, for a one-night stay. We politely obliged and settled in for the night, trying to act like staying in a $310,000 luxury travel trailer was normal, perfectly normal. We promptly excused ourselves to go buy some lotto tickets, promising that if we won the jackpot, the first thing we would buy was a Bowlus Volterra. We meant it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 22, 2024, 06:26:02 PM
That's a beautiful trailer.  However, $300,000 plus, and you still only get a single bed...

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 22, 2024, 07:24:13 PM
That's a beautiful trailer.  However, $300,000 plus, and you still only get a single bed...
If I'm spending $300K on a trailer, you think I'm letting the kids inside that thing? Nah, that's for me and ONE other person.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 23, 2024, 06:06:51 AM
Crime is another big issue, at least in France.  If you own a house, you have to have high walls around it, all of it, and they do.  The police are uninterested in property crimes, they treat you like a criminal if you report one.  We had a large group of French retirees over to Cincy and some of them we knew visited our house and marveled that we had no fence, and asked how that could be?  I looked at the dude and said "Everyone is armed", which was not really true.  Go into a suburban area near Paris or Lyon and you'll see what I mean.

Had no idea crime was so prevalent in greater France; a little surprised because what you’re referencing about policing and property walls is not the case I remember for my time spent in France’s bordering nations. But maybe the rest of Western Europe is slowly trending this way? Those two observations – indifferent policing and especially the property walls – are hallmarks of non-First World nations where the public is resigned to crime and corruption.

Whenever I go into Mexico or further into former Soviet Blocs the property walls (behind which are often mean dogs) is the first major neighborhood difference I notice. All along the sidewalks and roadways Gates, Bars, and Walls block point-blank view and access to driveways and residences.

For example, two street scenes from one of Tijuana’s nicer neighborhoods near the Pacific Coast:

(https://i.imgur.com/3RXuwFf.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/QCihj6F.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 23, 2024, 07:49:24 AM
The walls in France generally are higher than a man's head.  And then some.  And of course property crime in Paris directed at tourists is quite high.  The police ignore it.  The perps often use young females, "gypsies" or "rums", to distract you with something while they filch your wallet.

Tis best to walk quickly with purpose and seem to know where you're going and dress as far as possible like a local.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 23, 2024, 09:19:09 AM
If I'm spending $300K on a trailer, you think I'm letting the kids inside that thing? Nah, that's for me and ONE other person.
Oh agreed, but there are still solely single beds available.

Edit: Ah I see this might need clarification.  I'm referring to the SIZE of the bed.  There are 2 single (or twin) beds aft, and amidships there are two mini-dinettes that would convert to something slightly smaller than a twin.

So no matter who you are, the largest bed available to you, is a twin.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 23, 2024, 09:20:53 AM
That is equal of course to 300 stays at a $1,000 per night hotel.  I know what my wife would say.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 23, 2024, 09:24:43 AM
That is equal of course to 300 stays at a $1,000 per night hotel.  I know what my wife would say.



Even worse because on the trailer you have to pay for storage, maintenance, upkeep.  If you want it to stay that highly polished, and you don't plan to do the work yourself, then for a trailer that size you're looking at $5,000-$6,000 per year just to maintain that gleam.

And since I've polished a trailer that size, several times, I can assure you that you don't want to do that work.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 23, 2024, 09:43:46 AM
Yup.  I see the usual 2500s pulling some massive travel trailer and figure they are getting 10-12 mpg, same with a motor home.  Then they are towing some midget car usually.  I'll just stay in a hotel.

My wife notes it would mean she'd be cooking and cleaning as if she were at home.

Our hotel in Tokyo is $861 per, but I managed to use points.  As if.

A cruise with the uprated balcony suite runs about $900 per night, not including excursions (tours) which get pricey.  

A "normal" driving trip runs maybe $250-300 a day for a decent hotel, food, and gas for two people.   

Travel is expensive unless you use rail and hostels etc.  

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 23, 2024, 10:02:54 AM
So no matter who you are, the largest bed available to you, is a twin.
Ahh...

So even MORE nope from me. I'm 2" taller than a twin bed is long...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on February 23, 2024, 10:08:33 AM
Heading out tomorrow. Going to Great Stirrup Cay in the Bahamas, St. Thomas, San Juan and Amber Cove in the DR.  Nice little 8 day cruise.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on February 23, 2024, 10:11:00 AM
That's a beautiful trailer.  However, $300,000 plus, and you still only get a single bed...
Ya and if you look into the windows why is it filled with boxes?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 23, 2024, 10:12:13 AM
I'm guessing none of us are in the market for such a travel trailer.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 23, 2024, 10:45:19 AM
Yup.  I see the usual 2500s pulling some massive travel trailer and figure they are getting 10-12 mpg, same with a motor home.  Then they are towing some midget car usually.  I'll just stay in a hotel.

My wife notes it would mean she'd be cooking and cleaning as if she were at home.

Our hotel in Tokyo is $861 per, but I managed to use points.  As if.

A cruise with the uprated balcony suite runs about $900 per night, not including excursions (tours) which get pricey. 

A "normal" driving trip runs maybe $250-300 a day for a decent hotel, food, and gas for two people. 

Travel is expensive unless you use rail and hostels etc. 



Of course, the appeal to most of a camper or RV, is being able to go places where there AREN'T hotels.  If that's your thing, then it makes sense. But there's no ROI calculation that can justify the expense of owning an RV.  You do it for the experiences, for the memories.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 23, 2024, 01:18:53 PM
Heading out tomorrow. Going to Great Stirrup Cay in the Bahamas, St. Thomas, San Juan and Amber Cove in the DR.  Nice little 8 day cruise.
Make sure to hit up Old San Juan and check out the fort, if you've never done so. Some of the street food in OSJ is fantastic. Your ship should dock at OSJ. Very walkable, but cobblestone.

And believe it or not, there is a fantastic BBQ joint in St. Thomas, close to where the ships dock.

Smoking Rooster BBQ (thesmokingrooster.com) (http://www.thesmokingrooster.com/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 23, 2024, 01:27:20 PM
Make sure to hit up Old San Juan and check out the fort, if you've never done so. Some of the street food in OSJ is fantastic. Your ship should dock at OSJ. Very walkable, but cobblestone.

And believe it or not, there is a fantastic BBQ joint in St. Thomas, close to where the ships dock.

Smoking Rooster BBQ (thesmokingrooster.com) (http://www.thesmokingrooster.com/)

Was looking good, up until 

(https://i.imgur.com/XBQgNBn.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 23, 2024, 01:31:08 PM
Yeah, so we didn't get that.

They gotta appeal to people who like that kind of crap.

Man wants brisket. Woman is vegan.

Man wins.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 23, 2024, 01:39:53 PM
Yeah, so we didn't get that.

They gotta appeal to people who like that kind of crap.

Man wants brisket. Woman is vegan.

Man wins.
When I was getting divorced and found myself on dating apps before I eventually found the correct wife, there were three things that were automatic "no" if I saw them on a woman's profile:


The first two? Yeah, we're just not gonna have compatible lifestyles. I eat meat and I drink beer. I'm not planning to stop. So unless you're willing to be the kind of girl who eats smoked tofu when we go out for BBQ and volunteers to be the designated driver when I drink, it's not gonna work. And if you ARE that kind of girl, that's what we call a "doormat" and I don't want to be with someone I don't respect. 

The third? It's not that I was averse to dating a believer, but if it's high enough in your personal hierarchy that it goes into your public dating profile, you're not going to want to be with an atheist like me, so why waste each other's time? 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 23, 2024, 02:05:17 PM
Your wife can't get the smoked chicken. ;)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 23, 2024, 02:16:09 PM
Your wife can't get the smoked chicken. ;)
She'd prefer the brisket anyway :72:
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 23, 2024, 02:19:27 PM
I'm gonna say something highly controversial, something that could get me lynched down here in Texico, so I'll deny it if y'all repeat it anywhere, but...

...I don't really give a rat's ass about smoked sausage.  I consider it filler and it takes up room in my stomach that would be better used for brisket, ribs, smoked chicken, smoked turkey, and pretty much any other protein that is not sausage.

It's not that I dislike BBQ sausage, it's fine.  I just don't really care about it and would pick almost anything over it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 23, 2024, 02:21:56 PM
I'm gonna say something highly controversial, something that could get me lynched down here in Texico, so I'll deny it if y'all repeat it anywhere, but...

...I don't really give a rat's ass about smoked sausage.  I consider it filler and it takes up room in my stomach that would be better used for brisket, ribs, smoked chicken, smoked turkey, and pretty much any other protein that is not sausage.

It's not that I dislike BBQ sausage, it's fine.  I just don't really care about it and would pick almost anything over it.

Actually, I'm with you on that. The only sausage I really do like is Kielbasa. There is nothing like a Maxwell Street Polish.


(https://i.imgur.com/OovtM7h.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 23, 2024, 02:32:15 PM
nothin wrong with a smoked hot link or two
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 23, 2024, 02:33:07 PM
A good German bratwurst, simmered in beer, kraut, and onion, then grilled to add color, tossed on a bun with coarse mustard and fresh kraut. 

Perfection. 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 23, 2024, 02:38:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pyoIcAx.png)

I'll be here tomorrow...................

https://www.lincolnoktoberfest.com/general-clean (https://www.lincolnoktoberfest.com/general-clean)

Bockfest 2024 is on Feburary 24th

Winter blues? Not at our Bockfest bash! Throw on your coziest sweater and join us in the Haymarket for a winter festival that's all about good times, great beer, and even better company!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 23, 2024, 02:39:18 PM
A good German bratwurst, simmered in beer, kraut, and onion, then grilled to add color, tossed on a bun with coarse mustard and fresh kraut.

Perfection.


That works too. Been a long while since I've had a brat. I should go check at the German Butcher up the road a piece. I'm sure they have good brats. I've had their Weiss Wurst and that was good.


Kallis German Butcher Shop, Kallis, Deutsche Metzgerei, EUROPEAN Specialties Store, (https://www.kallisgermanbutcher.com/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 23, 2024, 03:24:22 PM
  • She mentioned being vegetarian/vegan.
  • She mentioned not drinking.
  • She mentioned religion/God.
     4.  She lilkes smoked sausage.
     5.  She wants a 16 team CFB playoff.
     6.  She puts beans in "chili".
     7.  She graduated from Eastern Michigan.
     8.  She majored in fine arts.  
     9.  She has a FICO score below 500.  
    10.  She smokes cigars.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 23, 2024, 04:02:43 PM
Ha @Cincydawg (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=870) !

Actually, the only thing that would be a dealbreaker there would be the FICO score. Although per my original point, if she put nearly any of those into a public dating profile, it would be... weird. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on February 23, 2024, 04:41:22 PM
Ha @Cincydawg (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=870) !

Actually, the only thing that would be a dealbreaker there would be the FICO score. Although per my original point, if she put nearly any of those into a public dating profile, it would be... weird.
hahah.. 8-10 might be deal breakers.. but FICO i would have more questions first. Need to see a credit report first to determine it's below 500. Medical collections.. co-sign on a bad debt... now tons of store cards and credit cards with high balances, lates and charge offs, see ya.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 23, 2024, 05:03:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pqkxTxe.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 24, 2024, 05:07:52 AM
My experience in continental Europe differs from Catsby and is more akin to CD's.  Working class families only have one car, even in small cities/towns and suburbs that aren't walkable for everything you need, as you'd find in the large cities.

Crime is crazy-- my rental car in Catania, Sicily was stolen right out from in front of the hotel where I'd parked it normally and legally.  When I went to the agency and told them, they just issued me another one.  They warned me if it happened again then I might need to fill out some paperwork.


On the subject of Crime—
America’s underlying ‘drug despair’ causes and reinforces a different reality of crime not readily seen in Europe. America’s drug culture is more deeply rooted. Not only are ‘street drugs’ (heroin, meth) and ‘party drugs’ (cocaine, ecstasy) more prevalent, but Americans are uniquely conditioned into a runaway drug culture through several generations of addictive prescriptions. Benzos, Ambien, Percocet, Adderall, Lexapro – all of which (except Lexapro) are substituted for and cut into street drugs, widening the road to heroin or crack addiction that much more for a decreasingly religious, decreasingly family-strong population. 

America’s drug culture is a primary driver behind the enthused state level legalization of marijuana, something for which there is almost no demand for in Europe.

To those who might counter with Amsterdam’s cannabis bars, the Netherlands has spent decades deemphasizing their cannabis tourism by not granting any new cannabis bar licenses since the 80s. What’s left of Amsterdam’s cannabis tourism is dependent on bars retaining their licenses. By the 90s their cannabis tourists were almost exclusively American or British; the French, Germans, and Russians were more interested in the prostitutes. And by the 2010s much of the American ‘pot tourists’ dropped off once Colorado and others legalized their own cannabis sales.

Nowhere in Europe does city center reek of lingering pot fumes that’s overtaken the downtowns of our Western cities. And outside of a few slums, nowhere in Europe is drug abuse as visible as on street-level America with its increasing overdoses and homelessness.

Take for example my recent morning commute to work. I called an ambulance because of a body in the street. Thankfully he was alive, still in his hospital gown and just discharged from the hospital for an overdose that he was still coming down from.


(https://i.imgur.com/6JkTOU4.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 24, 2024, 06:04:32 AM
How are things in Portugal vis a vis drugs?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 24, 2024, 08:31:49 AM

On the subject of Crime—
America’s underlying ‘drug despair’ causes and reinforces a different reality of crime not readily seen in Europe. America’s drug culture is more deeply rooted. Not only are ‘street drugs’ (heroin, meth) and ‘party drugs’ (cocaine, ecstasy) more prevalent, but Americans are uniquely conditioned into a runaway drug culture through several generations of addictive prescriptions. Benzos, Ambien, Percocet, Adderall, Lexapro – all of which (except Lexapro) are substituted for and cut into street drugs, widening the road to heroin or crack addiction that much more for a decreasingly religious, decreasingly family-strong population. 

America’s drug culture is a primary driver behind the enthused state level legalization of marijuana, something for which there is almost no demand for in Europe.

To those who might counter with Amsterdam’s cannabis bars, the Netherlands has spent decades deemphasizing their cannabis tourism by not granting any new cannabis bar licenses since the 80s. What’s left of Amsterdam’s cannabis tourism is dependent on bars retaining their licenses. By the 90s their cannabis tourists were almost exclusively American or British; the French, Germans, and Russians were more interested in the prostitutes. And by the 2010s much of the American ‘pot tourists’ dropped off once Colorado and others legalized their own cannabis sales.

Nowhere in Europe does city center reek of lingering pot fumes that’s overtaken the downtowns of our Western cities. And outside of a few slums, nowhere in Europe is drug abuse as visible as on street-level America with its increasing overdoses and homelessness.

Take for example my recent morning commute to work. I called an ambulance because of a body in the street. Thankfully he was alive, still in his hospital gown and just discharged from the hospital for an overdose that he was still coming down from.


(https://i.imgur.com/6JkTOU4.png)
Amsterdam's coffee shops. ;)

Great healthcare system.:67:
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 25, 2024, 02:49:10 AM
To Generalize the Mindsets—
There’s a subdued yet pervasive pessimism among Europeans that contrasts with the more open optimism of Americans. It’s an optimism that though might fade for an American eventually resigning to their life with similar pessimism, it’s a life more of their own educational and career making, and the same lost optimism can be rediscovered for their children.

From day one Europeans seem more resigned to what they’re born into, be it stagnate economies, unaffordable housing markets, and less upward mobility.

America’s is a religious optimism, a creative optimism, an economic optimism that widens youthful expectations into all sorts of vain pursuits for unrealistic fame and fortunes.

Our vast educational opportunities reinforce this, as do our home grown entertainments that the rest of the world likewise follows – Hollywood, Instagram, NBA; Americans are born into a belief that everybody has a chance at their fifteen minutes of fame.

So where there’s fatalistic resignation in Europe, there’s more of a slowed down awareness and practice to appreciate the smaller things – meeting for coffee, walking the dog, cigars – that’s easily lost in the rush-rush of America.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 25, 2024, 08:12:56 AM
To Generalize the Mindsets—
There’s a subdued yet pervasive pessimism among Europeans that contrasts with the more open optimism of Americans.
I had never quite articulated that as well as this, but I agree.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 25, 2024, 08:39:30 AM
My wife and I chat often about "where we want to go next", beyond driving trips that is.  She is saying a cruise to the Greek isles, which is "OK" with me, wouldn't be my top choice, but fine.  Our friend says South Africa is really worth seeing and we have a direct flight there, I worry about security (duh), he says it's fine.  I have another friend who is from SA and he says it's mostly OK also, and really interesting, he would arrange to meet us there.

India is somewhere on my list, my kids have been (to a wedding).  I hear neat things about Iceland, which would be pretty easy to do.  I've never been to eastern Canada.  My wife lived in Montreal for 6 months way back.  Then there is Australia/NZ, and SE Asia in general.  I hear Norway is pretty neat.  

The Greek cruise leaves from Rome, so if we did that, I'd probably arrange a week or so in Rome.  Our next big trip is probably Istanbul in September, I have not booked that yet.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 25, 2024, 08:57:25 AM
You don't need a week in Rome, honestly. 3 days would be fine.

Spend some time on the train and hit Florence. Need two weeks for that place.

Oh, and Civitavecchia is a pretty neat place itself.

We stay at this place when we go.

The house by the sea - B&B Civitavecchia (lacasasulmare.net) (https://www.lacasasulmare.net/en/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 25, 2024, 09:13:31 AM
Yeah, I think we'd do Florence also, as part of said week or so.  Our crazy Turk friend goes there once a year and knows Rome well and has two close friends who live there, we'd want to link up with them to see "Rome".

He'll be in Turkey and meet us in Istanbul.  I'm musing about a flight to Rome, then Athens, then Istanbul, then back to Rome.  Living here, we have a lot of flight choices that are direct, which was a factor in moving here.  I think there are five daily flights to Paris direct from here.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 25, 2024, 10:10:11 AM
To Generalize the Mindsets—
There’s a subdued yet pervasive pessimism among Europeans that contrasts with the more open optimism of Americans. It’s an optimism that though might fade for an American eventually resigning to their life with similar pessimism, it’s a life more of their own educational and career making, and the same lost optimism can be rediscovered for their children.

From day one Europeans seem more resigned to what they’re born into, be it stagnate economies, unaffordable housing markets, and less upward mobility.

America’s is a religious optimism, a creative optimism, an economic optimism that widens youthful expectations into all sorts of vain pursuits for unrealistic fame and fortunes.
Tommy Tiernan, an Irish comedian, has a great bit on this. Starts at the 0:52 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOlE6tLvXgU
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 25, 2024, 10:15:47 AM
Europeans, at least the French and Italians, are often very sensitive about style in clothing, shoes, hair, appearances.  I wonder if that focus is related to this generalization.  My best efforts to "look European" fall short.

They spend a lot of effort on this, not just the women.  My wife gets a bit annoyed with me when I wear sweats around the house, and out.  She's sorta learned it's part of the deal.

I'm wearing sweats now FYI.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 25, 2024, 10:20:24 AM
Europeans, at least the French and Italians, are often very sensitive about style in clothing, shoes, hair, appearances.  I wonder if that focus is related to this generalization.  My best efforts to "look European" fall short.

They spend a lot of effort on this, not just the women.  My wife gets a bit annoyed with me when I wear sweats around the house, and out.  She's sorta learned it's part of the deal.

I'm wearing sweats now FYI.
Can't speak to the French, but yeah, Italians go all out in most places. Ironically, Florence is not of those places. Actually, none of Tuscany is. Now, go to Venice, Milan, Rome, Genoa, Naples, etc. and yes. I think they spend more money on clothing than anything else.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 25, 2024, 10:22:46 AM
My friends from Munich are loaded, but you wouldn't know it based on the way they dress.

They love to shop at Marshall's when they are here in FL. Gonna see them next week, which will be nice. Great people.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 25, 2024, 10:59:43 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 27, 2024, 04:45:36 AM
Europeans, at least the French and Italians, are often very sensitive about style in clothing, shoes, hair, appearances.  I wonder if that focus is related to this generalization.  My best efforts to "look European" fall short.

They spend a lot of effort on this, not just the women.  My wife gets a bit annoyed with me when I wear sweats around the house, and out.  She's sorta learned it's part of the deal.

My observation as well: As unsurprisingly fashionable as French, Spanish, and Italian women are, the men invest plenty of their own effort into a polished style that distinguishes them from their American counterparts.

The men (and women) wear coats, tops, sweaters, and pants of mostly darker shades/leathers – blacks, grays, suedes, and mochas. Black dress boots. Black puffer jackets are prevalent, as are longer, buttoned peacoats. And unlike American men, scarves and turtle necks are worn.

I also can’t instantly pull off dressing “European.” Theirs is a honed style making formal dress appear natural for everyday, casual settings.

To go more casual, two standard American articles are turned to: jeans and sneakers (referred to as trainers). Jeans and white sneakers are about as casual as it gets in Italy. Never baggy sweats, surf shorts, excessive tatts, skater shoes, or tighter yoga wear, which in the U.S. is a public norm in grocery aisles, airports, schools.

The two articles of everyday streetwear giving me away as American are baseball caps and hoodies. I’ve seen a few Yankees caps worn; interestingly enough the Yankees logo is worn not as a sports logo but as an accepted American fashion symbol similar that of the few U.S. fashion brands popularized in Europe, logos like Ralph Lauren, Hilfiger, Coach, and Kate Spade.

black dress boots, darker overcoats and pants, no baseball caps:

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 27, 2024, 07:47:38 AM
Clothing with logos or names are not "European" according to my wife, but that seems to be changing, some.  Having some big honking Nikon is of course a mark of a tourist.  She's OK with very dark jeans but prefers slacks.  I do what I can.  The more touristy you look in Paris the more you're gonna get preyed on by the "Rums".
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 27, 2024, 07:54:27 AM
I dress differently when I travel to Cali

blacks, greys, whites - very little color

Texas is simple.  Add the 10-gallon hat and a big ass belt buckle
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 27, 2024, 10:15:21 AM
Texas is simple.  Add the 10-gallon hat and a big ass belt buckle
Don't forget the Longhorn hockey sweater.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 27, 2024, 01:12:55 PM
Depending on where you go in Florida (not here) you can get by with a pair of jorts, work boots, a mullet, and a 90's Camaro.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 27, 2024, 01:14:43 PM
I think looking like a tourist in Europe can be much more of a disadvantage than in the US, where many of us are tourists.

I'm going to stand out in Japan like a very sore thumb no matter what.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 27, 2024, 01:20:39 PM
I don't really care about making any attempts to look "European."  When I'm traveling there, I AM a tourist. I AM American.  I have nothing to apologize for.

When they're here, I can easily spot them as well.  Not many American dudes wear capri pants, and NO man looks good in capri pants despite whatever trend they might think is fashionable.

So, in short... so what?


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 27, 2024, 01:23:41 PM
For me, it's a matter of limiting getting accosted by the gypsies and other folks in Paris.

Last time I was in good shape, but it was out of tourist season.

All I do is wear decent clothing and black shoes, nothing with writing on it, no cap, etc.  I usually let my hair grow out also.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 27, 2024, 01:26:07 PM
I've never had any problems with pickpockets/thieves/gypsies.  I keep on pretty high alert but nothing else special.  I guess I just look pretty intimidating.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 27, 2024, 01:35:12 PM
I've not had real problems, but I've been accosted many times, in Paris.  Keep walking, fast, and ignore them.

I also try and keep up with my wife so as not to embarrass her, too much.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on February 27, 2024, 03:59:11 PM
Slim cut suits are European. 

I notice them because they absolutely do not work on big or tall men. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 27, 2024, 04:56:10 PM

Slim cut suits are European.

I notice them because they absolutely do not work on big or tall men.
Guess I'm out then... I'm both of those. 

 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 27, 2024, 11:46:16 PM
If I and my money aren't welcome somewhere, I won't be there long and won't come back.

and that goes for parts of Chicago as well as anywhere outside the USA
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 28, 2024, 06:52:51 AM
For me, it's a matter of limiting getting accosted by the gypsies and other folks in Paris.

Last time I was in good shape, but it was out of tourist season.

All I do is wear decent clothing and black shoes, nothing with writing on it, no cap, etc.  I usually let my hair grow out also.


I whacked one with an umbrella in Rome. He stopped.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 28, 2024, 07:42:01 AM
If I and my money aren't welcome somewhere, I won't be there long and won't come back.
You'd be welcome in Paris by merchants and whatnot, but there is a segment that would see you as a mark.  They can be a bit annoying for first timers.

I don't recall being accosted so much in other European cities aside from someone sitting somewhere with a cup out front, maybe begging, often outside churches.

The "real" pick pockets probably operate more covertly, I don't know for sure.  My wife worries about them a lot more than around here.

One thing in "life" I've learned is that a bad story or three gets hyped and told and exaggerated while 300 "good stories" or normal experiences get submerged.  I notice a certain major media outlet nearly always has something terrible hyped as a headline daily.  I'm not suggesting such stories be suppressed, but they often aren't typical.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 28, 2024, 08:03:40 AM
Rome is bad for gypsies and pickpockets (and graffiti!!). Been there twice. No need to return.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 28, 2024, 08:06:19 AM
Rome and Paris of course are top tourist destinations, bucket list places.  So, it stands to reason the gypsies et al. would concentrate on both.

I don't know why Euro city would be third on that list, maybe London or Barcelona or Vienna or Florence?  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 28, 2024, 08:08:43 AM
Florence has a lot.

Barcelona is fine. Vienna is fine.

Never been to London. No desire really.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 28, 2024, 08:13:05 AM
Yeah, I just wonder what third city most US tourists aspire to see after P and R.  London is "OK", I've been 4-5 times.  It has some "things" of interest to me, $$$ of course.  

I've not been to Vienna, it's on our list.  My wife wants to go (back) to Florence.  

My wife alternate each year between Paris and London for the major air show she had to attend for work.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 28, 2024, 08:26:14 AM
I haven't been, but Athens would seem like a place ripe with gypsies.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 28, 2024, 08:32:21 AM
I didn't notice many gypsies in Athens (GR), or beggars.  We stayed near the center of town, walked all over.  It "seemed" pretty safe and relatively clean.  We had a good time.  The outskirts appeared to be much poorer from the cab.

We watched a video of Istanbul the other day with our Turkish friend, a Rick Steve's video, he said it was very good.  We're booked.  Most of the city is in Europe.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on February 28, 2024, 09:05:55 AM
Slim cut suits are European.

I notice them because they absolutely do not work on big or tall men.

I've made the move to slim fit suits in the past year. I'm 6'10", 235. My fiance says I rock it pretty well. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 28, 2024, 09:16:39 AM
6'10" and 235 is pretty svelt, really.  I've gotten 40 pounds over my better weight, 240 at 6'4" and a lot is not muscle.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 28, 2024, 09:54:34 AM
all I'll say is my goal is to stay under 200#

and I'm under this week!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on February 28, 2024, 02:15:01 PM
https://youtu.be/QtngxfLQ9o0
Escaped German Prisoners-of-War Stole A Plane
what's a little sight seeing amongst combatants

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 28, 2024, 02:16:15 PM
Yeah, 235 is very svelte for 6'10". 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 28, 2024, 02:19:39 PM
all I'll say is my goal is to stay under 200#

and I'm under this week!
I'd have to cut off a leg to be under 200#. 

The interesting thing is that my primary care physician had one of those body composition scanners and after seeing the results told me "BMI doesn't apply to you. You have too much lean muscle mass. You'll never be within the 'normal' range."

Right now I'm the healthiest, strongest, and possibly "skinniest" I've been in my adult life, almost getting to the point where I can point to my stomach and describe them as "abs", and yet my BMI is hovering just on the wrong side of obese. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 28, 2024, 02:24:30 PM
I'm trying pretty hard to stay in shape, or get back into shape, once you let yourself go and put on some years, it seems impossible without draconian measures.

I went over to the tennis practice court today and threw against the wall for half an hour, worked up quite a good sweat, and then ran a few sprints coming back.  Well, they are sprints for me anyway.  I'm thinking I should work my way back to running 5k three times a week, it's a slow 5k, but that's some energy.

I hit the gym on alternate days, nothing major, but some lighter weights going hither and yon, better than nothing.  And I type a lot.  I've about finished my next book.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 28, 2024, 03:02:56 PM
I'm trying pretty hard to stay in shape, or get back into shape, once you let yourself go and put on some years, it seems impossible without draconian measures.

I went over to the tennis practice court today and threw against the wall for half an hour, worked up quite a good sweat, and then ran a few sprints coming back.  Well, they are sprints for me anyway.  I'm thinking I should work my way back to running 5k three times a week, it's a slow 5k, but that's some energy.

I hit the gym on alternate days, nothing major, but some lighter weights going hither and yon, better than nothing.  And I type a lot.  I've about finished my next book.
Yeah, I've finally found something that I both like and that I'll actually do. And I don't want to end up like my parents. I want to still be capable and active in my future years. 

I absolutely hate running. I don't do it. 

So I do a core strength class every day (typically anywhere between 10 and 20 minutes), ride the Peloton bike 4-5x per week (ranging 30m to 120m, my average class is a little over 40 minutes), and try to do dumbbell strength classes 4+ times per week (either 20 or 30 minutes) per class. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 28, 2024, 03:12:36 PM
@betarhoalphadelta (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) @Cincydawg (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=870) 

I moved fitness talk to "other news". 

wouldn't mind a separate fitness thread to be honest. None of us are getting younger.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 03, 2024, 08:41:01 AM
My guess is that following our 24 hour flight to Tokyo I may be rethinking this travel bug.  Long layover in LAX, 4" hours.

And we can't access the Delta lounge because we're on American.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 03, 2024, 09:00:21 AM
Terminal 4 at LAX sucks. Food choices are horrible. I can't imagine 4 hours in that hell hole.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 03, 2024, 09:04:15 AM
I know LAX was expanding, or building more "stuff" back in the day.  I prefer to avoid it when possible, though we fly through on Delta at times and it's "OK".  I don't now about American.  The cruise line put us on that flight.  In the back.  I was able to upgrade us a bit anyway.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 03, 2024, 09:06:39 AM
I know LAX was expanding, or building more "stuff" back in the day.  I prefer to avoid it when possible, though we fly through on Delta at times and it's "OK".  I don't now about American.  The cruise line put us on that flight.  In the back.  I was able to upgrade us a bit anyway.
Did you at least get the premium economy?

More leg room, free booze.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 03, 2024, 09:16:25 AM
I got first from here to LAX and then exit row to Tokyo, nothing else was open.  We got premium coming back from Seoul and then first to ATL from Dallas.

I would make our own flight arrangements but going through the cruise line is WAY cheaper with two one way flights.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 03, 2024, 09:21:21 AM
ya'll signed up for this punishment
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 03, 2024, 09:49:38 AM
I got first from here to LAX and then exit row to Tokyo, nothing else was open.  We got premium coming back from Seoul and then first to ATL from Dallas.

I would make our own flight arrangements but going through the cruise line is WAY cheaper with two one way flights.
I don't mind premium or exit. We get that free. I do like being upgraded, of course, and our names are pretty high on the list.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 03, 2024, 10:20:18 AM
Yeah, we're good on Delta, but nothing else.  But they don't free upgrade on transocean flights that I've seen even if seats are open.  I thought the cruise line would book us on Delta most of the time, but it's been only one out of three so far.

West Jet is the worst airline I've flown in ages, I was shocked how bad they were compared with anyone else.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 03, 2024, 03:06:13 PM
🍅 Roma today: 4pm Catholic Mass at Saint Peter’s Basilica. Blessings from a Vatican priest. Then a Scottish pub across the street from hotel where the Champions League games were airing. Rained all evening.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 04, 2024, 10:07:37 AM
To finish up my short time in Rome, I visited a few more Catholic Cathedrals – or more specifically, Basilicas (Rome officially has 4).

The impressively ornate detailing covering every inch inside the Cathedrals is more than a fancy sight – it’s an immersive experience. In 2024. I’m glad to say so because that’s been the church's intention since the ancient origins of its more monumental structures.

To think that so long ago these Cathedrals like these were likely the only man-made sights where the senses could be so impressed; the Church’s intention for such opulence was to expose its followers to God as an awe-inspiring presence. Similar to the Shepherd’s transcendent experience on the night of Christ’s birth: “An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified… Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying, ‘Glory to God in the highest heaven, and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.’”

Keep in mind a supernatural experience like this would’ve been infinitely more impressive to the ancient mind unexposed to today’s addictive entertainment and media distractions of radio, film, television, video games, and internet social media. For which we continually consume, disrupting the quieter mind needed to be exposed to and moved by spiritual experiences and its affinities.

Opposition isn’t religion’s primary threat; faith strengthens against opposition. Rather, it is the increasing immersion of our advancing distractions – CGI, iPhones, video games, social media, AI(?) – that will consume and crowd out our minds for a faith beyond itself.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 07, 2024, 10:58:40 PM
LAX has all these power outlets that are dead.  Finally found one.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 08, 2024, 01:53:26 AM
Constant announcements here very loud.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 08, 2024, 08:52:58 AM
:'(
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 08, 2024, 04:31:02 PM
We arrived. Tokyo. Flight was ok. 11 hours. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 08, 2024, 05:28:56 PM
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Superb breakfast. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 08, 2024, 05:51:02 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 08, 2024, 08:43:39 PM


Our hotel. Too early to get room. 10:43. AM. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 08, 2024, 08:44:08 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 08, 2024, 11:04:56 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 09, 2024, 01:05:57 AM
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Room view. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 09, 2024, 04:28:18 AM
Room has 1.5 bathrooms both with heated toilet seats. And bidets. Heated floor in main bath. Fancy. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 14, 2024, 07:43:23 PM
In Kobe two days.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 14, 2024, 08:43:22 PM
Went to see KC @ AZ spring training.  
I saw a Nebraska hat, a Florida hat, a guy in Creighton gear (they have some kind of something in Phx), and a woman in a 1971 Game of the Century shirt.  

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Post by: Cincydawg on March 17, 2024, 10:46:54 PM
In Naze.  Nagasaki tomorrow. 
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Post by: GopherRock on March 18, 2024, 09:55:38 AM
Going to Orange County later this week for my wife's conference in Anaheim this weekend. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 18, 2024, 10:03:57 AM
Going to Orange County later this week for my wife's conference in Anaheim this weekend.
Welcome! Hit me up if you want any info on places to go / eat / drink etc...

Orange County has a pretty good brewery scene, oddly enough centered around the Anaheim area. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 21, 2024, 03:02:27 AM
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Much newer city than Tokyo or Osaka. Cars are much larger too. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 21, 2024, 03:03:10 AM
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 21, 2024, 03:04:00 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 21, 2024, 03:05:24 AM
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Apple Store in mall across street.  Booked DMZ tour tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 21, 2024, 03:06:37 AM
I cannot imagine what a war would be like here.  We’re in artillery range of NORTH Korea. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on March 21, 2024, 12:54:50 PM
I cannot imagine what a war would be like here.  We’re in artillery range of NORTH Korea.
I found Korea to be fascinating at all levels. 

Did you go to JeJu Island?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 21, 2024, 02:29:04 PM
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Hamlin Gardens on Jeju Island. 

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 22, 2024, 08:13:49 AM
The DMZ is amazing.  Film at 11. Or when I get home.  
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Post by: MarqHusker on March 22, 2024, 09:13:16 AM
My older brother was stationed in Korea for a bit, I enjoyed his DMZ story, pictures etc.    He was a big fan 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 22, 2024, 07:05:34 PM
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North Korea to left.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 22, 2024, 07:13:46 PM
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North Korea. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 22, 2024, 07:14:48 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 22, 2024, 07:15:31 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 22, 2024, 09:30:27 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 22, 2024, 10:38:53 PM
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Mall by hotel. About to head out. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 22, 2024, 10:43:24 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 23, 2024, 06:27:21 PM
At DFW.  Got through immigration ok. 2 hour flight left after 11 hr 47 min flt. Feel ok 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 23, 2024, 07:12:08 PM
Seoul is a huge modern city that seems very prosperous and alive.  The cars are like ours mostly, no trucks few suvs. There are 15-40 story apartment buildings everywhere, all in close proximity to North Korea.  Very clean, awful traffic, young residents.  I was impressed 

We signed up for a 30 day cruise next March, Seoul to Dubai. Should be a hoot.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2024, 08:19:08 AM
Back home, not incredibly tired.  We were delayed coming out of DFW an hour for something.  I wasn't impressed with AA as an airline, I guess they are "OK".  I used points to get into their lounge at DFW.  Meh.  I paid to upgrade us to Premium Economy" out of Seoul which was "OK".  It was a lot of "premium" and a lot of "economy" both.

We had no hitches on the trip otherwise.  My wife liked Tokyo because of the tour we had there, I thought Seoul was vastly more impressive and clean and prosperous.  We both noticed that some Koreans talk really loud in public, Japanese don't at all.  The cars in Japan are mostly tiny boxes, in Seoul they look pretty much like here.  I have a ton of photos of course, will probably make another photo book (whch we look at once usually).
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2024, 08:59:58 AM
I'll post a few pics later, need to download them.  The DMZ is definitely "weird" the more I think about it.  The South tried to make some small steps to reunification a decade or more back, so they built an entire factory just into DPRK, you could see it from our viewing site.  They had about 500 South Koreans go there for work and several thousand from the North providing cheap labor.  The South provided electricity and water.  It's a pretty large plant, now defunct of course.  The power lines were cut.

The bus drop off area where you get tickets is like a tourist spot with probably 80 tour buses and the aforementioned small amusement park, restaurants, gift shops, etc.  You wait there over an hour while your guide gets tickets (he takes your passport).  Then your reboard the bus and transit several pretty serious looking check points.  ROK MPs come on the bus and check everyone's passport several times.  There is razor wire everywhere and the fences are marked with land mine warning signs.

We toured a cave built by the North a few years back, that was back breaking for me.  Then the bus toils up a hill to an observation post with fence lines and razor wire but access for tourists where you can see into the north and the actual DMZ.  I didn't notice a heavy military presence, mostly observation points, radar, and some United Nations Command folks with Hummers.  If the North attacked, I think they'd punch through quickly up there, the response would come from further south, or is hidden effectively.

All this is about a one hour drive north from Seoul, and quite a few large apartment buildings are closer than that.  The guide said land got cheaper as you go north.  No kidding.  The South built a four lane freeway that runs parallel to the DMZ.  There isn't much traffic on it (!).  South of the actual DMZ is a zone reserved for the military though there are some villages and farms inside it (where we had lunch).  Inside the DMZ is "nothing", basically.  It's a bout a 3 mile wide strip that is "demilitarized".  On the southern side one can see a paved road and fence line, nothing obviously much deterrent to tanks.

The freeway bridges have explosive charges built into them, if something happened the bridges would be dropped.  The area is hilly, but with a good bit of flat land suitable for armor, and some very good highways in the south.  I know the 2nd Infantry Division is now based south of Seoul.  

I was impressed with the RoK.  If that country were united, I think they'd be a significant world player economically, and soon, akin to Germany.  They built an impressive country from ruins in fairly short order.  Japan, to me, seemed tired in comparison.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 24, 2024, 09:18:55 AM
Do you recommend a trip to Korea? We've thought about it quite a bit.

What cites in Japan stood out?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2024, 09:35:20 AM
We only saw Jeju and Seoul, but I liked both.  I think Seoul was worth the trip.  I'd like to see more of the south.  The Conrad Seoul is quite the place, a bit pricey (duh).

We did not take the train to Kyoto, that probably was a miss for us, folks said it was worthwhile (from Kobe).  As for what stood out in Japan, well, for me, not really much.  The tour we had in Tokyo was quite well done, 8 hours, a lot of walking, one guide, and 6-7 trips in the subway or JR line.  I feel like we had a decent experience of it for a large city.  My wife really liked Tokyo, I was less impressed.  (The Conrad Tokyo is also nice, duh).  

For me, I'd like to go back to Korea but not Japan especially, except maybe to see the north and more of the rural areas.  Our trip to see Mt. Fuji was a bust due to weather.  It was rainy and cold and our tour guide was not good.  Nagasaki/Kobe/Osaka/Tokyo to me all looked pretty much the same.  

I've always wanted to visit Japan, so we did, I don't have strong memories of the place good or bad really.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 24, 2024, 09:40:22 AM
This is intriguing (depending what China is up to).

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2024, 09:53:40 AM

Thu (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Seoul (Incheon), South Korea---7:00 PM0
Fri (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Jeju, South Korea12:00 PM9:00 PM0
Sat (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)At Sea------0
Sun (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Ishigaki, Japan7:00 AM7:00 PM0
Mon (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Taipei (Keelung), Taiwan7:00 AM6:00 PM0
Tue (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Kaohsiung, Taiwan8:00 AM4:00 PM0
Wed (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Hong Kong, China11:30 AMOvernight0
Thu (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Hong Kong, China---6:00 PM0
Fri (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)At Sea------0
Sat (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Nha Trang, Vietnam7:00 AM3:00 PM0
Sun (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My), Vietnam7:00 AM5:00 PM0
Mon (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)At Sea------0
Tue (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Bangkok (Laem Chabang), Thailand6:00 AMOvernight0
Wed (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Bangkok (Laem Chabang), Thailand---8:00 PM0
Thu (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Ko Samui, Thailand10:00 AM6:00 PM0
Fri (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)At Sea------0
Sat (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633261/vacation-summary#)Singapore, Singapore (Flight Departure)7:00 AM---0

That is similar to our cruise.  We stay on board after Singapore.



[th]Day[/th]
[th]Land Tours And Cruise Ports[/th]
[th]Arrive[/th]
[th]Depart[/th]
[th]Booked[/th]
Sat (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Singapore, Singapore---5:00 PM0
Sun (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Kuala Lumpur (Port Klang), Malaysia7:00 AM4:00 PM0
Mon (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Phuket, Thailand11:00 AM6:00 PM0
Tue (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)At Sea------0
Wed (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)At Sea------0
Thu (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Colombo, Sri Lanka9:00 AM4:00 PM0
Fri (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Cochin, India10:30 AM6:30 PM0
Sat (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Mangalore, India7:00 AM6:00 PM0
Sun (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Goa (Mormugao), India7:00 AM4:00 PM0
Mon (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Mumbai, India7:00 AM5:00 PM0
Tue (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)At Sea------0
Wed (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)At Sea------0
Thu (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates10:30 AM9:00 PM0
Fri (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Dubai, United Arab Emirates7:00 AM7:00 PM0
Sat (https://www.ncl.com/shorex/237618718/56633516/vacation-summary#)Doha, Qatar (Flight Departure)7:00 AM---

This ship is a bit smaller and doesn't have "Club Balcony Suites", just balcony only.  The cost including air is about $21 K.  Our propspective daughter in law is from HK and we're trying to get them to do the first leg with us.  I'lll probably spend a small fortune on excursions.




Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2024, 09:56:13 AM
Something again that mystifies me a bit, we were in first class from DFW to ATL and the seats had no video monitors. The safety brief had to be done by the flight attendants.  I whined about this on West Jet, I didn't expect it from a "major" (AA).

I have not been on any Delta flights in years that did not have video monitors even in coach.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 24, 2024, 10:05:57 AM
American did away with the monitors years ago. You can do everything and more with your phone or tablet.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: longhorn320 on March 24, 2024, 10:09:42 AM
Do you recommend a trip to Korea? We've thought about it quite a bit.

What cites in Japan stood out?
Ive watched video on utube about the bullet trains in Japan and looks like it would be a lot of fun to ride
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2024, 10:22:37 AM
I've ridden the TCV a few times.  It's sort of interesting I think, but you get used to it quickly.  I'm not much of a fan of HSR in the US though.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 25, 2024, 10:08:47 AM
As we were flying on American, I checked out their credit card, and obtained one.  The first year is free, and I got 50,000 miles for spending some money on it, so cool, but that much FF isn't good for much.

BUT, for 7900 miles, you can get into their lounge, which I did (2x).  The second year costs $99 so I'll cancel, but can use the miles for the lounge if we're on AA in the future.  I did the same with United but their card gives you two lounge visits a year.

I have a Delta AMEX I use for most things.  It comes with lounge admission, but is starting to cost too much.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 26, 2024, 07:11:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/dYIkTah.png)

They also carry up to 5,000 people, who really are not there to be transported in any normal sense.  I asked the chief engineer on our last cruise how much lube oil his engines had, I forget the answer, it was like 30 metric somethings, a lot, was it 30 metric meters?  He said they don't ever change the oil except during a full overhaul.

I wondered how long the engines last between majors.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 26, 2024, 07:18:41 AM
How Big Is a Cruise Ship Engine? (cruisehive.com) (https://www.cruisehive.com/how-big-is-a-cruise-ship-engine/74524)

Modern, larger cruise ships use two or three stroke, low speed, crosshead, or medium speed engines. Engines operating at higher speeds tend to be found on smaller vessels. Determining the type of engine that is installed on a new cruise ship involves examining the engine’s size.

When it comes to cruise ships, the typical engine is a two 16-cylinder Wartsila 16V 46D which is a common rail engine. They also use three 12-cylinder Wartsila 12V 46D engines to power the ship. Each one of these produces about 19,480 kw of water.

Wärtsilä 46F - diesel engine (wartsila.com) (https://www.wartsila.com/marine/products/engines-and-generating-sets/diesel-engines/wartsila-46f)

Wärtsilä 46DF dual-fuel marine engine (wartsila.com) (https://www.wartsila.com/marine/products/engines-and-generating-sets/dual-fuel-engines/wartsila-46df)


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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 26, 2024, 07:30:56 AM
Oil for Wärtsilä 46 series 16V46 (16800 kW) ME. Which oil is the best? Professional lubrication advice - Kroon-Oil (https://www.kroon-oil.com/en/product-recommendation/marine/wartsila/46-series/16v46-16800-kw-me/69221/506902/#!/component:506902/)

22,700 liters of lube oil per engine.  I think they should develop the antimatter drives used on Star Trek to save the environment.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 26, 2024, 09:06:27 AM
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They also carry up to 5,000 people, who really are not there to be transported in any normal sense.  I asked the chief engineer on our last cruise how much lube oil his engines had, I forget the answer, it was like 30 metric somethings, a lot, was it 30 metric meters?  He said they don't ever change the oil except during a full overhaul.

I wondered how long the engines last between majors.


I've heard 20 years or so.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 26, 2024, 09:10:15 AM
That sounds reasonable to me for a huge Diesel.  I imagine they usually run at constant RPM and get excellent maintenance (one hopes).  I know Diesels on ~35 footers go for a premium over gas.  My friend in Wisconsin had one of those but with 454 gasoline engines (2), as I recall.  He sold it finally.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 26, 2024, 09:17:16 AM
That sounds reasonable to me for a huge Diesel.  I imagine they usually run at constant RPM and get excellent maintenance (one hopes).  I know Diesels on ~35 footers go for a premium over gas.  My friend in Wisconsin had one of those but with 454 gasoline engines (2), as I recall.  He sold it finally.
Sounds like you're talking about me...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 26, 2024, 09:24:34 AM
Yup.  My buddy lived in Racine. WI while he was working, and then retired in Sturgwon Bay.   He had a boat the whole time, we visited them 5-6 years back and had the last ride on his boat before he sold it.  He also was the Chief Poohbah of the local boating group, whatever they called them.  He talked some about gas vs Diesel.

Reminds me of the old $50 hamburger stories pilots would tell,  which now would be $200.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 26, 2024, 09:52:59 AM
Yup.  My buddy lived in Racine. WI while he was working, and then retired in Sturgeon Bay.  He had a boat the whole time, we visited them 5-6 years back and had the last ride on his boat before he sold it.  He also was the Chief Poohbah of the local boating group, whatever they called them.  He talked some about gas vs Diesel.

Reminds me of the old $50 hamburger stories pilots would tell,  which now would be $200.
Commodore.

Sturgeon Bay has some really nice marinas.

I found that belonging to a yacht club really wasn't worth it, for our uses.

The KYC (Kenosha) is mostly geared toward sailboats and racing.

Those people don't like my people much.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 29, 2024, 10:10:30 AM
I noticed at DFW their "Sky Train" has to loop around the several terminals rather than taking a straight line (which would necessitate being buried).  I found this rather uncomfortable, I was standing and the train applies some lateral Gs around the curves, and it took some time as well.  We had to get from D to A for our flight.  (We had time.)

Immigration there seemed pretty normal to me, at least when we landed.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on March 29, 2024, 10:19:58 AM
I've flown through DFW about a gazillion times,  but never internationally. I kinda like walking between the terminals when I have enough time. There are trains that go both ways and "they say" the max time from one end to the other is 9 minutes, but I don't know about that.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 29, 2024, 10:26:47 AM
Skylink is a free light rail train that connects all five terminals and is the shortest route to your stop while inside of security.


I've read the ATL train takes 7 minutes end to end.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 29, 2024, 11:07:27 AM
I've flown through DFW about a gazillion times,  but never internationally. I kinda like walking between the terminals when I have enough time. There are trains that go both ways and "they say" the max time from one end to the other is 9 minutes, but I don't know about that.
Yeah, I don't mind a walk from terminal to terminal when there. But, then, I like walking. 

I've never had any problem with the trams tho. And while I think I've only flown into/out of Dallas as a destination once, being that I fly American I used to spend a fair amount of time there for layovers. Definitely would get my annual allowance and then some of Shiner Bock. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on March 29, 2024, 11:18:36 AM
Yeah, I don't mind a walk from terminal to terminal when there. But, then, I like walking.

I've never had any problem with the trams tho. And while I think I've only flown into/out of Dallas as a destination once, being that I fly American I used to spend a fair amount of time there for layovers. Definitely would get my annual allowance and then some of Shiner Bock.

Yeah one reason I liked walking among the terminals, is that there were a couple of pretty cool bars (as far as airport bars go) that I liked stopping at.  Plenty of Shiner Bock consumed, for sure.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 29, 2024, 11:19:22 AM
We were coming off a 12 hour flight and I'm not familiar with DFW much at all.  Nearly everything out of here is Delta of course.  It took me a minute to figure out the Sky Train was to get us from D to A.  

We had plenty of time, but it took me a bit to figure out what time it was and check when our flight home would leave.

The cruise line has booked three different flights for us now, one each on AA, United, and Delta.  They are a lot cheaper than I could book on my own as they have all been one way deals.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2024, 06:10:21 AM
I've commented before about coming in to ATL internationally.  If you gate at F terminal, it's quite easy (relatively), but at E terminal, you'll have a rather long walk.  You can't access the Plane Train and you have to walk from E to F.

F is the international terminal built at a cost of $1.4 billion and has 12 gates, which amazes me.  The other problem is getting there, the MARTA station is at the other end of the airport, so it's easier to drive (or be driven).  They have a shuttle bus, but it's constantly overloaded with lines to board.  The Plain train goes there of course, but only after you pass security.

And parking outside is often nonexistent (full).  

If you come in from Canada and have already cleared immigration, your baggage will be out at the F terminal, not the main one, though you arrive at the main concourse.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 30, 2024, 07:49:41 AM
Man, ORD is so easy. People complain about it (it's big) but it's a breeze.

The only time it sucks is when the weather sucks. The weather sucks quite a bit in Chicago, but at least ORD has plenty things to do in a delay.

My wife flew back here the other day from ORD. Her plane was delayed an hour, but it was an RSW problem. Too much air traffic and not enough air traffic controllers.

Happens quite a bit these days, actually.

Vaccine mandate strikes again!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2024, 07:57:37 AM
Folks complain about every airport.  LAX used to be the worst in the US, it seems OK now.  ATL was designed for folks changing planes, and it works pretty well for that.

Seoul (Incheon) was new and modern and worked OK, it's larger than I expected.  We had a pretty good lunch there too.  Tokyo Haneda gave us a long walk to get to Immigration (moving sidewalks, but still long).  I try to clear immigration before the bathroom when possible.

We changed planes once in Istanbul, it was VERY weird, we had about 5 separate security checks, and we'd already been through security in Athens where we took off.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 30, 2024, 08:18:15 AM
Brussels sucks.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2024, 08:42:00 AM
Flying in and out of Omaha isn't bad
Neither are Sioux City or Sioux Falls
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on March 30, 2024, 10:25:05 AM
Kennedy was a breeze for customs, it was the TSA line that was a pain. Pre Check, Clear, and regular at the Delta terminal all dumped into the same entrance of the queue maze, and everyone got the business. Nothing was gained by the line cutting programs.

Also, in said line, agents from LAN Airwys were calling for Santiago passengers. A woman confused that for San Diego, and kept insisting that she was on that flight.

My opinion of clearing customs at DFW is likely soured by having to do so with a sprained and badly swollen ankle.

O'Hare is good if Chicago is your starting or ending point, or if you don't have to clear customs. However, if you're coming from or going to a non-US airline, the number of potential failure points goes up substantially.

My wife and I did our best impression of the Home Alone dash on our way home from our honeymoon. Our flight on Lufthansa was late leaving Frankfurt due to fog, and by the time we landed we had less than an hour to clear customs, take the bus to the main terminal (the tram was out of service), clear TSA, and get to the dead end of the concourse where the United Express flying beer cans load. Fortunately United staff helped us as much as they could, and we did make it.

Going from Lufthansa premium economy in a 747 to the back row of a United regional flying beer can was a bit of a shock.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2024, 10:34:23 AM
Some photos from Seoul from our hotel:



(https://i.imgur.com/78ih1rq.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/b59IJpc.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2024, 10:36:06 AM
Neear the DMZ is a tourist attraction:

(https://i.imgur.com/4y2rvF5.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1y4dwui.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2024, 10:36:58 AM


The line is the southern end of the DMZ.(https://i.imgur.com/uY3OCq4.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2024, 10:37:36 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/nyLu9aU.jpeg)

Looking south from that hill towards Seoul off in the haze.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2024, 10:38:36 AM
Reconstructed palace in Seoul, a lot of folks in period costumes.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbCdCd4.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 30, 2024, 10:42:55 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 30, 2024, 10:48:38 AM
Kennedy was a breeze for customs, it was the TSA line that was a pain. Pre Check, Clear, and regular at the Delta terminal all dumped into the same entrance of the queue maze, and everyone got the business. Nothing was gained by the line cutting programs.

Also, in said line, agents from LAN Airwys were calling for Santiago passengers. A woman confused that for San Diego, and kept insisting that she was on that flight.

My opinion of clearing customs at DFW is likely soured by having to do so with a sprained and badly swollen ankle.

O'Hare is good if Chicago is your starting or ending point, or if you don't have to clear customs. However, if you're coming from or going to a non-US airline, the number of potential failure points goes up substantially.

My wife and I did our best impression of the Home Alone dash on our way home from our honeymoon. Our flight on Lufthansa was late leaving Frankfurt due to fog, and by the time we landed we had less than an hour to clear customs, take the bus to the main terminal (the tram was out of service), clear TSA, and get to the dead end of the concourse where the United Express flying beer cans load. Fortunately United staff helped us as much as they could, and we did make it.

Going from Lufthansa premium economy in a 747 to the back row of a United regional flying beer can was a bit of a shock.
When we travel out of the country, we usually visit Chicago before and after, to see family, friends and hit the offices. So, for us, in that manner, it's very easy. We have Global Entry which makes it even easier. 

Our last trip to Mexico, we did not do this. We flew RSW to DFW to Cabo, then back in reverse. I will never, ever again do this.

Coming back on a cruise ship is even easier.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 01, 2024, 12:06:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PheZEf9.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on April 01, 2024, 03:37:21 PM

The line is the southern end of the DMZ.(https://i.imgur.com/uY3OCq4.jpeg)
You went up there on a good day to see the DMZ. I went up there on the day after a typhoon had gone through Korea. The cloud deck was so thick that we could barely see the lines on the road.

My dad drove a tank somewhere on the DMZ in 1968. I presume the American encampments are well to the east of here, away from tourism central. Unsurprisingly, he maintained until the day he died that the next world war would start on the Korean DMZ.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 02, 2024, 05:59:13 AM
The US 2nd Infantry division is now based south of Seoul, well back from the line.  The DMZ itself is literally "demilitarized", so in theory, nothing military is inside that belt.  The South Koreans have a zone south of the DMZ called "something security zone" or somesuch which we entered.  There isn't much visible to suggest a lot of defensive systems that we saw.

We were told there probably are more tunnels under the DMZ not yet found, they located four of them.  We toured the third.  

How to visit the Korean Demilitarized Zone | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/visit-korean-dmz/index.html)

I think this is worth visiting if you're ever in Seoul.  It cost about $160 per, including a visit to the palace in Seoul, and lunch.

In other news, we're off Sunday for a short trip up into the mountains, hopefully the weather holds and we can tour Brasstown Bald Mountain.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 03, 2024, 01:01:06 PM
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Yeah, show up over an hour late on a tour not provided by the boat and you're going to have a problem.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 03, 2024, 01:15:43 PM
Headed to Indianapolis tomorrow for a wedding on Friday. 

Probably won't flood this thread with all the amazing photos of exciting... Indianapolis.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 03, 2024, 01:22:17 PM
Headed to Indianapolis tomorrow for a wedding on Friday.

Probably won't flood this thread with all the amazing photos of exciting... Indianapolis.
I'll be going to lovely Indianapolis for my first time ever in November, for the Marching Bands of America Grand Nationals competition.  Yay...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 03, 2024, 04:34:34 PM
Indy:

Eat a steak at St. Elmo's, if you can get in. If not, they have a bar a few doors down that serves some of the same food. Shrimp cocktail is a must-eat at this place.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 03, 2024, 04:51:12 PM
Indy:

Eat a steak at St. Elmo's, if you can get in. If not, they have a bar a few doors down that serves some of the same food. Shrimp cocktail is a must-eat at this place.
Honestly no time... Get in late enough tomorrow that all we'll be able to do is get checked in and grab a quick cheap late-night bite near the hotel before we crash. Wedding is Friday, and then our flight back leaves 6:15 PM Saturday. Whirlwind trip in and out. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 03, 2024, 04:56:42 PM
I used to drive to Indy or Laville for flights, they could be much cheaper than flying out of CVG back in the day (Cincy, really it stands for Covington, Kentucky).

We're going to Waynesville, NC Sunday and then Greenville, SC later on.  Might even play some golf.  Not all that exciting, but it's a thing, and the mountains this time of year can be quite nice.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 03, 2024, 05:12:37 PM
Honestly no time... Get in late enough tomorrow that all we'll be able to do is get checked in and grab a quick cheap late-night bite near the hotel before we crash. Wedding is Friday, and then our flight back leaves 6:15 PM Saturday. Whirlwind trip in and out.
Buy this:

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 04, 2024, 12:12:38 PM
Indy:

Eat a steak at St. Elmo's, if you can get in. If not, they have a bar a few doors down that serves some of the same food. Shrimp cocktail is a must-eat at this place.
Prime 47 is a really, really, really good alternative if you can't get into St. Elmo's.


Headed to Indianapolis tomorrow for a wedding on Friday.

Probably won't flood this thread with all the amazing photos of exciting... Indianapolis.
We had a shooting within one block of our house last night that resulted in IMPD going door to door looking for possible video evidence. Who says it isn't exciting?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 04, 2024, 06:05:20 PM
I'd recommend 50 places before sending folks to St Elmos for dining in Indy even if the shrimp cocktail is without peer on the planet.   

It's not a bad restaurant at all and bar is cool as is upstairs lounge.  

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 04, 2024, 10:33:44 PM
Got in and the whole town was dead. Supposedly there's a country concert at Lucas Oil and that's why? And I guess the NIT. 

Ordered a pizza via GrubHub which is supposedly going to be 30 minutes later than quoted .Hotel bar was closed already and they can't sell packaged from their little hotel market, so that means no beer for me nor wine for the Mrs after a long day of travel. To say I'm annoyed is an understatement.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 04, 2024, 10:41:41 PM
life isn't fair
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 04, 2024, 11:07:25 PM
And the pizza sucked. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 04, 2024, 11:17:54 PM
well, you were in Indiana

shoulda ordered a pork tenderloin sammich
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 04, 2024, 11:35:57 PM
How can pizza suck?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 04, 2024, 11:46:56 PM
How can pizza suck?
Well even when it's bad, it's still alright. But I'd never order there again. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 07:11:17 AM
The shrimp cocktail is life changing.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 07:12:01 AM
I would think the best shrimp cocktails might be on the Gulf coast.  Is there something special about them other than having good shrimp?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 07:14:26 AM
They use the best shrimp I've ever had (yes, I'm in Florida).

The sauce. Oh man, that sauce.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 07:55:07 AM
I like the occasional shrimp cocktail but really can't tell much difference between them (some are not good, I agree).  And to me they are way over priced at lofty dining places, like $20 for 4 shrimp.

My taste buds are pretty pedestrian, fortunately, my wife will claim a thing is either terrible or terrific and it tastes pretty normal to me.

She's more into oysters.  

If I want shrimp, I just get frozen raw shrimp at Kroger and have at it.  But it's not my favorite.  Neither is lobster.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 05, 2024, 08:25:08 AM
And to me they are way over priced at lofty dining places, like $20 for 4 shrimp.
Yeah. For the price of rather make it at home.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 08:26:06 AM
You don't know what you're missing.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 08:32:45 AM
I likely don't know, and maybe that's OK.  Shrimp cocktail is not high on my list of things to eat anyway.  I can't remember the last time I ordered one out.

When we go to Hilton Head, we will hit the oyster places that have their own boats, and they do a pretty good job, my wife still claims they are better in Brittany.  I can tell some difference in oysters, and of course, one can stumble across pretty bad ones.

I do like crab legs a lot, haven't had them in eons either.  Back in the day, I'd look forward to a trip to Florida for FRESH fish, but it seems now everything is frozen.  I had some fresh walleye a few times and it is incredible (not in Florida!).  I've had fresh grouper in Florida that was outstanding, but not in decades.

A friend once told me that raw oysters were just an excuse to eat cocktail sauce, but I've learned not to use that on good oysters.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 05, 2024, 08:33:06 AM
You don't know what you're missing.
I do. We've had a very good shrimp cocktail at Mastro's Ocean Club, but I fail to see why it's worth $30 for four shrimp. Even if they were the best shrimp I've ever had, I still don't think it's worth it. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 08:36:14 AM
Mastro's is way overrated.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 08:50:05 AM
Here is the appetizer menu at St. Elmo's:

(https://i.imgur.com/A5VAKnt.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 05, 2024, 09:09:18 AM
after 4 jumbo shrimps, I wouldn't need a steak
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 09:11:05 AM
They are definitely huge. Almost like a small lobster tail.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 05, 2024, 09:15:43 AM
I've been told to skip the steak at St. Elmo's

have a few drinks and the shrimps

the steak is good but not worth the price
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 09:18:31 AM
No steak is "worth" the price in a restaurant. 

For that matter, nothing in a restaurant is "worth" the price.

$15 for mushrooms, to share? $15 for a potato?

That's a steakhouse. It is what it is.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 05, 2024, 09:22:19 AM
maybe I'll be lucky enough to try it some fine day

last time I was there the place was full of RED, Badgers and Huskers

little chance of getting a seat
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 09:23:47 AM
Most of here agree we can fix an excellent steak at home without much bother.  Most of us probably order one out on occasion knowing this.

The best steak I ever had out was a Tomahawk ribeye at Eddie Merlots, I think it was $59 at the time, now it's over $100.

This is why I prefer "ethnic" restaurants, their items are mostly things I can't fix at home without a lot of work.  I had to suggest to my wife that she order when we're traveling things that are "local", don't go to a steak place and order seafood, don't go to Boston and order a steak, etc.  For whatever reason she hadn't put this together perhaps because in France, the food can be somewhat less local than here?

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 09:32:00 AM
I cook my own fish.

Going on a charter next week. Last time I came home with 30 lbs. of grouper.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 05, 2024, 09:36:23 AM
A friend once told me that raw oysters were just an excuse to eat cocktail sauce, but I've learned not to use that on good oysters.

Oh yeah I love them without cocktail sauce.  I sometimes will put a dab of horseradish on top, though.  Like wasabi on a bite of sushi.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 09:40:33 AM
I dab some mignonette on them at times.

Some places don't have it of course.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 05, 2024, 09:42:02 AM
For whatever reason she hadn't put this together perhaps because in France, the food can be somewhat less local than here?

I'd say food across the USA is quite a bit more varied than France, but it's really not a fair comparison because not only is the US much larger, it's also been more of a "melting pot" than France has over the past 200 years, with a wider variety of ethnic foods introduced here, compared to France.

And that's not to say that food across the country of France doesn't vary, because of course it does.  I just don't think it's as wide a variety, for the reasons stated above.

Or at least, that's my theory!  Could be completely wrong... :)


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 09:49:28 AM
Yeah, I think that's it, she just hadn't realized you should probably order whatever is local in the US until I mentioned it.  She'd order fish, which is probably OK, in say Austin, at a BBQ place, though in that case I stepped in.

We took our future daughter in law and son to Fox Bros. here (BBQ) and she ordered chicken salad.  I think my step son might intercede but he didn't.  She's from Hong Kong and expected to get a lettuce like salad with grilled chicken, which of course isn't what they brought.  She ate about two bites.

I should have said something.  Their brisket is really good.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 09:53:56 AM
I dab some mignonette on them at times.

Some places don't have it of course.
If they don't have it, that tells me to not order oysters.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 10:03:26 AM
There is a place near us that has decent oysters, but no mignonette, it's more of a sports bar with outside dining.  I like it OK, my wife does not.  Now I'm hungry.


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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 05, 2024, 10:05:55 AM
One of my first nights in France I went out with the locals to a pretty fancy restaurant, and I ordered the "seafood platter."  Several of the locals had a lot of experience in the USA and Texas, and so they had a good idea of what I was expecting, and of course that's not what I got, at all.

Of course none of it was fried, or blackened, or grilled, or anything else familiar.  It came on a three tier dish, on the top was a whole crab on ice, eyes staring at me, claws hanging down in front.  The next tier had some small whole fishes kinda like sardines, and some whole boiled langoustine.  The bottom tier had some type of mollusks in their shell, but I didn't recognize them, they weren't clams or oysters or muscles or scallops.  They were alive but slightly cracked open, and it was your job to finish killing them, separate them from the shell, and then eat them.  And also on the bottom tier were some sea snails.  Probably a couple of other things I'm forgetting because they were so unfamiliar.

Anyway, I had no problem with the langoustine, I've been peeling and eating shrimp and crawfish my whole life.  I tried the sea snail and it was pretty bad, not nearly as tasty as escargot.  The mollusks were actually quite good but it was a little weird killing them and watching them sort of jerk around and shrink a bit, in front of me.  The sardine things didn't bother me but weren't my favorite.  

But I struggled with the crab-- I really had no idea how to take it apart.  It's just not something a middle-class Texan ever really sees.  The locals were laughing at me when it was delivered, and happily devoured what I didn't eat.  They were nice enough to give me some of the crab claw meat which was delicious.

Since then, of course, I've become much more open to foods, and nowadays wouldn't balk at a plate like that, at all.  But at the time, as a 23-year-old wet-behind-the-ear kid, I really had no idea what I was doing.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 10:10:52 AM
Yup, my wife ordered that when we stayed in Mont St. Michelle one night, it was "different", exactly as you say.  Some of it isn't that great, as you note.  Some is.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 05, 2024, 10:44:48 AM
Never been a big fan of French cuisine.  First time I went to France, I was on a high school tour (long time ago), they didn't give us an options on our first meal.  they served us some kind of fish covered in olive oil. Was not happy.  As soon as I found the McDonald in Paris, I got a Big Mac. This was back in 1977, so it may have been the only McDonald's in Paris at the time if I remember right it was on the Champs Elysees not too far from the Arc De Triomphe. 

Going to be in France in about 40 days, I am much more adventurous in my dining these days, so no McDonald's. Not sure how adventurous, but definitely will try different things. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 05, 2024, 10:49:42 AM
No steak is "worth" the price in a restaurant.

For that matter, nothing in a restaurant is "worth" the price.

$15 for mushrooms, to share? $15 for a potato?

That's a steakhouse. It is what it is.
Yep. And as "overpriced" as the steak is at a good steakhouse, it's usually very high quality meat. Far superior to a supermarket or even Prime at Costco. Better IMHO even than a good butcher, although my local butcher is close. My last ribeye from the butcher was $40. My last at Mastro's was $79. The butcher steak was larger, to be sure, but that's not egregious for restaurant pricing. 

It's the sides, apps, salads, and if course alcohol where they really get you. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 10:50:30 AM
My advice to Americans is to walk until you haven't seen a tourist for a while, and then walk some more, find a neighborhood kind of place with local foot traffic, and dine there.  The locals rarely tolerate poor food for long.  

My other advice is that a simple "sandwich shop" can be excellent.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on April 05, 2024, 11:29:09 AM
I'd say food across the USA is quite a bit more varied than France, but it's really not a fair comparison because not only is the US much larger, it's also been more of a "melting pot" than France has over the past 200 years, with a wider variety of ethnic foods introduced here, compared to France.


I don't know about France, but it's a lot more varied than Korea.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 05, 2024, 12:20:04 PM
Never been a big fan of French cuisine.  First time I went to France, I was on a high school tour (long time ago), they didn't give us an options on our first meal.  they served us some kind of fish covered in olive oil. Was not happy.  As soon as I found the McDonald in Paris, I got a Big Mac. This was back in 1977, so it may have been the only McDonald's in Paris at the time if I remember right it was on the Champs Elysees not too far from the Arc De Triomphe.

Going to be in France in about 40 days, I am much more adventurous in my dining these days, so no McDonald's. Not sure how adventurous, but definitely will try different things.

French food is great.  Other than some unusual seafood we don't see much here in the US, and snails, I don't think French food requires a need to be adventurous.  It's not like some of the Asian cuisines (or Louisiana) where they will eat pretty much anything.

If you want some recs on what to order, or how to order, ask CD, he knows his way around the French culinary experience.  And like he says, some of the very best food is in small local neighborhood bistros.  You don't need to hit Michelin starred restaurants to eat like a king, in France.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 12:37:44 PM
Well, Utee lived there longer than I've visited, there is a difference.  And I'd note that chicken and pork are not often on menus in France, you'll more likely see a fish, duck, lamb in local spots, maybe some steak of some sort, I've never had a good steak there.  They do like their sauces of course.  It helps to learn the French words for basic menu items, like duck is canard, lamb if agneau, fish is poisson.  No, not poison.  Steak may be bouef or biftek or just steak, fried are pommes frites.

Moules is mussels, a real item in the north and Belgium.

A very casual looking bistro can be excellent, they use fresh stuff, daily.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 05, 2024, 01:08:33 PM
Well, Utee lived there longer than I've visited, there is a difference.  And I'd note that chicken and pork are not often on menus in France, you'll more likely see a fish, duck, lamb in local spots, maybe some steak of some sort, I've never had a good steak there.  They do like their sauces of course.  It helps to learn the French words for basic menu items, like duck is canard, lamb if agneau, fish is poisson.  No, not poison.  Steak may be bouef or biftek or just steak, fried are pommes frites.

Moules is mussels, a real item in the north and Belgium.

A very casual looking bistro can be excellent, they use fresh stuff, daily. 
And of course the jambon on your pizza or croque monsieur. (ham)

Oh, and don't forget the Lapin a La Cocotte.  Lapin is rabbit and the Frenchies love them some rabbit stew.  It's more an in-home thing than a restaurant thing, though.  But man I loved it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 05, 2024, 01:18:59 PM
And the pizza sucked.

Where did you get it from? The best pizza in Indy is Jack's. That's our standard Friday night fare. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 01:21:51 PM
We stayed at my daughter in law's place for a week in a tiny village near Rambouillet.  There was one restaurant in town, run by a lady we got to know, she's Portuguese.  My wife still emails with her.  The food was really good and she had a large fire place with a roaring fire going, this was January or February.  We had lunch there nearly every day, and one dinner.  The lady said she got up at 4 AM to go to the market to get food items.  The menu was on a chalk board and varied some each day depending on what she could buy.  You rarely see that here, if ever, in the US, getting that day's produce and meats for the restaurant.  "Home cooked", ha.

The other nice thing is wine isn't marked up like crazy.  A bottle that would be say 10 euros retail might be 12-15, while here it would be 30.  The OTHER good thing is I find I often lose a couple of pounds after two weeks over there.

I'm sketching out a trip for two weeks in the south of France and then two weeks in Tuscany.  Maybe longer.  Now I'm hungry.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 01:25:40 PM
Tuscany is magic.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 05, 2024, 01:42:23 PM
I'm sketching out a trip for two weeks in the south of France and then two weeks in Tuscany.  Maybe longer.  Now I'm hungry.



Man I'd love to do this.  Make it a couple of months, even.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 01:46:31 PM
Hilton has a place I can stay quasi-free in Mougins in Provence, and another in Tuscany, that would be the plan.  They are condos.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 05, 2024, 03:30:58 PM
Where did you get it from? The best pizza in Indy is Jack's. That's our standard Friday night fare.
It was Donato's. This town seems to shut down at 10 so we had few options. Rental car was valeted and my wife didn't want to walk anywhere, so we were stuck with whatever GrubHub could deliver. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 05, 2024, 03:45:04 PM
Man I'd love to do this.  Make it a couple of months, even.
Between Ireland, England, France, Belgium and Netherlands, I am going to be gone for about a month. About 5 of those days will be at sea crossing the Atlantic. another 9 days in various ports and the rest going over the land and visiting various places in a France and England. My retirement trip.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 05, 2024, 03:58:13 PM
Between Ireland, England, France, Belgium and Netherlands, I am going to be gone for about a month. About 5 of those days will be at sea crossing the Atlantic. another 9 days in various ports and the rest going over the land and visiting various places in a France and England. My retirement trip.
Awesome, I'm jealous, have fun!  


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2024, 04:26:50 PM
Between Ireland, England, France, Belgium and Netherlands, I am going to be gone for about a month. About 5 of those days will be at sea crossing the Atlantic. another 9 days in various ports and the rest going over the land and visiting various places in a France and England. My retirement trip.
From what port to what port?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 05, 2024, 04:59:08 PM
My guess Miami to South Hampton. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2024, 06:30:52 AM
That's 12-14 days.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 07:21:09 AM
I suggested that cruise to my wife, it's cheap, she was not interested.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2024, 07:37:10 AM
We love those crossings. Great way to get home from Europe. Lots to do on the ship and opportunities to make good friends, which we have.

Depart Barcelona or Lisbon.

Normally a stop in Madeira or Tenerife, then a stop in Bermuda.

Hopefully end up in Fort Lauderdale (We prefer over Miami).
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 07:41:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/lkeo2qA.png)

This is a 13 day cruise on NCL, pretty cheap.  Six days to get to the Azores.  It's in January and my wife said the weather would be bad, which is not entirely true, but it conflicts with baseball, so it's a no go.  I was discussing with her taking a cruise to relax more than see things.  

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2024, 07:45:51 AM
Do this one.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 07:52:08 AM
We'll stay with NCL, they work out just fine for us.  A reality is we can "relax" pretty well staying at home, if we tire of cooking we can dine out of course.  I'm more interested in cruising so as to explore areas difficult to visit on our own.  I was looking at a cruise to Iceland and Norway, looked pretty interesting, but then I thought we can just visit each on our own time.

We've been on six cruises now, and have never gone to a "show".  We hear the entertainers in various lounges as we pass by at times and none of them are good at all.  Maybe the big shows are better, don't know.  They have a thousand seat theater on the larger ships.  There also is a casino which must make a LOT of money for them somehow because each time we pass through there are hardly any customers.  They have more workers than customers.  (The ATM is there.)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2024, 07:54:08 AM
No casinos on Azamara. No kids. No waterslides.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 08:03:15 AM
As I noted earlier, I don't mind the NCL large ships at all.  There are very few kids aboard, we rarely see them.  Things like casinos and water slides (if they have them) are easily avoided.  I think the water slide and race car tracks are gimmicky things they mostly use in the Caribbean cruise ships.  

Our next Asian cruise is on a "smaller" ship, only (ha) 1900 passengers.  That really isn't much different of course but they lack what they call "club balcony suites", which are a bit larger than regular balcony.  The suites larger than those get silly expensive in a hurry.  We're mostly aboard to see things on land, though I enjoy a few days at sea to relax.  

I know some folks get the inside regular cabins because of price and then figure they only stay there to sleep.  They are pretty tight though.  My wife would not approve.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2024, 08:14:57 AM
I could deal with ocean view, but not interior. No chance of that happening.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 08:18:10 AM
I took my wife on a cruise in the western Med first, I was not sure she'd like it, she did, for better or worse.  We went on one in the carib because it included Havana, which she wanted to see because friends told her it was great.  (It wasn't, Havana is a dump, that trip really was a bust.)  We then tried Alaska which was mediocre, not like the advertisements at all.  

I concluded they are best for touching on spots difficult to access otherwise.  I'm not interested in any more Caribbean cruises, I'd rather just fly to "X" and stay there a week.  I don't particular want to see more Caribbean islands, I've seen enough already.  

I am interested in Asia and Australia/NZ.  The mideast is "out" for obvious reasons right now, and we've seen parts of it last year.  And we're headed to Istanbul in September for eight days (not a cruise).  You might consider that mideast, but most of the city is in Europe technically.  And our friend will be there as a tour guide, oddly enough the name he uses sounds like "Tour Guy".

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 08:19:59 AM
I could deal with ocean view, but not interior. No chance of that happening.
We looked at both types when the doors were open, they really are tight, and the "ocean view" types are hardly better in my "view" on NCL ships.  They have a fairly small window over the bed.  They are the same size otherwise.  When you go to "balcony", you get a small sitting area with sofa bed and desk and larger BR.  They are close to twice the size.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 06, 2024, 08:28:17 AM
I suppose a king size bed isn't available on most cruises? Kills it for me. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2024, 08:34:28 AM
Azamara has king beds. 

Their ocean view rooms are the same size as the veranda suites. Club suites and above are a different story. 

No interest in Alaska. Much interest in Korea, Japan (a couple of stops only), Taiwan. Maybe Hong Kong. Is it safe in Hong Kong?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 08:38:55 AM
I think they are all kings, we've never had anything but.  Maybe they are queens in the nonbalconys, I didn't notice.  They are queens or two singles in nonbalconys.

Cruise Oceanviews, Insides | Norwegian Cruise Line (ncl.com) (https://www.ncl.com/why-cruise-norwegian/cruise-accommodations/oceanviews-insides)


(https://i.imgur.com/A12Qfoj.png)

Below is what we get.  

(https://i.imgur.com/JgoSZR0.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 08:39:35 AM
Hong Kong should be safe for tourists.  That of course can change if they start having protests.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 06, 2024, 08:56:01 AM
I've been told Alaska cruise is outstanding and a must do
I've been told it sucks
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2024, 08:58:49 AM
Many more people have told me "It sucks" than not.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 06, 2024, 09:02:41 AM
This would be fun. A couple of weeks in Europe, followed up by this:

(https://i.imgur.com/v25c8bl.png)

And this:

(https://i.imgur.com/JjodtNn.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 06, 2024, 09:04:40 AM
yup

Alaska has always been on my list of places to visit
and I don't enjoy flying much

I also don't travel much so there are times I feel I should go somewhere

I think I'll just go to Florida and Texas to visit friends

I am going to the San Fran Bay area in January with the daughters
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 09:09:39 AM
Our Alaska cruise was, well, disappointing, to me.  We visited some towns that were not as interesting as I imagined.  We took one helicopter tour to land on a glacier, that was OK, but pricey, and COLD.  My wife liked that.  For some reason, the glacier we were supposed to visit on the ship was dropped from the itinerary, and the glaciers we did see, from the ship, were quite distant, and a bit boring.

I had imagined something more ... dramatic I think.  If we return to Alaska, it will be "land sea" or just land.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 06, 2024, 09:17:04 AM
yup, the commercials show signs of Whales, Killer whales, Ice Bergs, and cruising close to shore 

I don't mind wearing a jacket, but most folks around here want warmer weather while on vacation
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 06, 2024, 10:00:48 AM
I feel like Alaska is calling to me. It's a bucket list trip. Not sure I want to cruise though. Might as well just fly up there and get a car and a hotel. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 10:03:05 AM
My suggestion would be car and hotel, second would be some "land sea" option, which gets pricey.

The cruises just go up the panhandle region of course.  The cities visited are, to me, not that interesting.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 06, 2024, 11:16:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/RaltJah.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 06, 2024, 10:11:19 PM
I was in St Thomas and St John this past week.  I saw one of the giant NCL ships in St Thomas.  It dwarfed the already giant Steve Wynn private yacht which was nearby. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 06, 2024, 10:14:21 PM
Here's Wynn's yacht.  Apparently for sale at $200m

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 07, 2024, 08:00:18 AM
I'd pilot that. I've also seen it there, while on a cruise.

Where did you take that picture from?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 07, 2024, 08:06:41 AM
The big cruise ships are about as big as anything on the oceans, large container ships and AC carriers can be about the same tonnage.  I'm still astonished at their size, the height above water line is impressive, to me.  

I'm recalling our trip around the UK last year when the ship hit some heavy storms, 85-100 knot winds they said, and it was bouncing around quite a bit.  The wood in our cabin was groaning all night, my wife seemed a bit concerned.  It was difficult to walk down the gangway without bouncing off the walls.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 07, 2024, 08:58:38 AM
We were in 30 foot seas coming out of the straight into the Atlantic. The Captain made a (correct) decision to bail on Madeira and headed for Tenerife as the water was much calmer to the South. Good thing they had room in the port. A larger ship would not have been able to get in.

No issues from there. It was nice.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 07, 2024, 09:02:26 AM
We did our last crossing in November 2021.

Bermuda foolishly denied our ship's entry due to Covid. We went to St. Thomas instead. I'm not a fan of that place.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 07, 2024, 12:53:52 PM
I'd pilot that. I've also seen it there, while on a cruise.

Where did you take that picture from?
1&3 Restaurant at Yacht Haven Grande in east Charlotte Amalie.    Quality place.

That was the only time we spent anywhere near Charlotte Amalie.  We stayed out at the Ritz on the east end of the island.    

I think St John's has two of the nicest beaches I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 07, 2024, 01:03:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6dOoss4.jpeg)

Brasstown Bald
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 07, 2024, 03:11:22 PM
Recs on luggage? My wife's luggage is WAY past its prime so she was looking for a carry-on sized bag, and my carry-on sized bag finally gave up the ghost after more than a decade with a catastrophic wheel failure... 

Looking for carry-on + one larger bag, so maybe a 2 pc set plus an individual. If you know of good places to buy it (i.e. we have some outlets, I think Samsonite & Tumi, within driving distance), also helpful.

We've always been soft-side luggage folks, but if anyone has an argument to sway us to a hard case style, I'm listening. 

Deadline is that we need it before May 20, because that's the next trip when we leave for Kauai. I just threw all the existing stuff in the trash to make that a VERY hard deadline lol...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 07, 2024, 03:14:05 PM
I bought a huge Samonite hard case 30 years ago.
It's been beat to hell.
I still use it.
I put something in there I don't worry about damage to the contents

I also have a hard case for my golf clubs
after having clubs broken in soft cases
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 07, 2024, 05:02:48 PM
I love Briggs and Riley gear. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 07, 2024, 05:29:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/VDleswO.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 07, 2024, 05:29:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/p5rCH7E.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 07, 2024, 06:37:22 PM
Trunk Bay,St John's.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 08, 2024, 06:51:22 AM
Recs on luggage? My wife's luggage is WAY past its prime so she was looking for a carry-on sized bag, and my carry-on sized bag finally gave up the ghost after more than a decade with a catastrophic wheel failure...

Looking for carry-on + one larger bag, so maybe a 2 pc set plus an individual. If you know of good places to buy it (i.e. we have some outlets, I think Samsonite & Tumi, within driving distance), also helpful.

We've always been soft-side luggage folks, but if anyone has an argument to sway us to a hard case style, I'm listening.

Deadline is that we need it before May 20, because that's the next trip when we leave for Kauai. I just threw all the existing stuff in the trash to make that a VERY hard deadline lol...

Amazon.com | Amazon Basics suitcases 30 Inch Softside Spinner, Black | Suitcases

 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071L7V8YH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)Very light weight, which is key when you are limited to 40/50 pounds max.

I bought this in 2018. It has been on a lot of trips and handles cobblestone streets just fine.

This weighs less than my Samsonite carryon. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 08, 2024, 06:58:09 AM
1&3 Restaurant at Yacht Haven Grande in east Charlotte Amalie.    Quality place.

That was the only time we spent anywhere near Charlotte Amalie.  We stayed out at the Ritz on the east end of the island.   

I think St John's has two of the nicest beaches I've ever seen.
We've walked by that place a few times. Never went in.

This one is great.


Smoking Rooster BBQ (thesmokingrooster.com) (http://www.thesmokingrooster.com/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 08, 2024, 10:48:40 AM
From what port to what port?
New York to Hampton
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 08, 2024, 10:52:13 AM
We looked at both types when the doors were open, they really are tight, and the "ocean view" types are hardly better in my "view" on NCL ships.  They have a fairly small window over the bed.  They are the same size otherwise.  When you go to "balcony", you get a small sitting area with sofa bed and desk and larger BR.  They are close to twice the size.
We always get a balcony, Love to get up in the morning, go out on the balcony and relax watching the ocean. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 08, 2024, 10:53:17 AM
I've been told Alaska cruise is outstanding and a must do
I've been told it sucks
Wife went on one with her late husband and loved it, so we are doing it in July. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 08, 2024, 11:00:14 AM
We always get a balcony, Love to get up in the morning, go out on the balcony and relax watching the ocean.
On a crossing, the weather can tend to be cold. We didn't use our balcony much on the last one we did, until we got closer to home.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 08, 2024, 06:14:00 PM
https://www.exploregeorgia.org/hiawassee/outdoors-nature/hiking/brasstown-bald-visitors-center-recreation-area
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 09, 2024, 09:55:47 AM
Interesting read.

Paris on a Budget: Discover 15 Cheap Eats (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/tripideas/paris-on-a-budget-discover-15-cheap-eats/ar-BB1kxGy0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=f5e95dfd42964c56aacb27b39ac9449a&ei=33)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 09, 2024, 09:57:32 AM
Our last cruise we had a balcony and it was great, but it was also all through the Caribbean so the weather was fantastic.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 09, 2024, 09:59:41 AM
Our last cruise we had a balcony and it was great, but it was also all through the Caribbean so the weather was fantastic.
Yep, definitely need a balcony for a cruise like that.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 09, 2024, 10:32:06 AM
Our last cruise we had a balcony and it was great, but it was also all through the Caribbean so the weather was fantastic.
Even in the cold. A nice warm robe and something hot to drink.  One of the few times I don't mind the cold too much
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 09, 2024, 10:35:15 AM
https://youtu.be/RO6IU9RpjS8
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 12, 2024, 10:47:05 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/8TW7Xn7.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 12, 2024, 12:17:12 PM
I drove down to Nashville for a conference this week.   City continues to explode in growth.  I'd like to pull pictures like the ones above from 2000 to 2024.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 12, 2024, 12:21:12 PM
Nashville consistently has some of the worst traffic I've experienced. They've clearly outgrown the current highway system. I've never driven through Nashville and not had to deal with a massive slowdown and stoppage because of a car just stopped in the middle lane of I-24. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 12, 2024, 12:48:24 PM
maybe move the Board Meeting to the burbs
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 12, 2024, 01:55:18 PM
We took a brief trip into the mountains, stayed in Waynesville, NC three nights, and Greenville, SC one night.  Downtown Waynesville is decent, Greenville is really something, to me, they really did that up nicely.  We stayed at a place overlooking the golf course, I asked, and fees are $150 for 18 with cart.  I haven't played golf in years, but that seemed a bit high to me.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 12, 2024, 08:42:08 PM
Peak golf season in Carolinas.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2024, 09:08:45 AM
Peak golf season in Carolinas.
Hardly any golfers were out even in Sunday when the weather was great.

I think they redid that course a few years back, it looked to be in pretty good shape with some areas still being remediated.

I don't know what greens fees are these days.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2024, 09:09:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/oBkJVsm.png)

I've been to some of those, I wouldn't call the Vatican a museum exactly, but I suppose it is.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2024, 09:31:18 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/mTlFfT5.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2024, 09:32:41 AM
I'm sure I figured in 1975 that SSTs would be the way of the future.  There are a couple concepts being developed now, but I think they will remain expensive for obvious reasons.  Maybe a Gulfstream kind of SST for 10 passengers might sell a bit.  And we don't have flying cars either!!!!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 13, 2024, 09:48:54 AM
$150 for a round of golf is pricey for me
I paid $150 for a new course a couple years ago
This place........

https://www.landmandgc.com/coursepub (https://www.landmandgc.com/coursepub)




most I've ever paid was under $200
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 13, 2024, 09:54:28 AM
Golf is not cheap. 9 holes behind my house costs $38.00 right now. Of course, in a month it will drop to about $15.00.

We have 27 holes here. Executive course.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 13, 2024, 10:06:38 AM
9 holes is like kissin yer sister

the 19th hole isn't cheap either
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2024, 10:11:01 AM
I was idly thinking of taking it up again.  I probably should hit the range and see where I'm at.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 13, 2024, 10:11:59 AM
9 holes is like kissin yer sister

the 19th hole isn't cheap either
People here generally play 9 holes and are done.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 13, 2024, 11:09:06 AM
I was idly thinking of taking it up again.  I probably should hit the range and see where I'm at. 
not as hard on your body as baseball
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2024, 11:14:04 AM
That's for sure, although I noticed I'm so slow now playing baseball I don't really get that sore, except the arm.

The arm is not terribly sore but does get pretty weakened.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2024, 02:08:40 PM
This was my first chance to drive the Hyundai in the mountains, and I think it did well.  While hardly a sports car of course, it managed smoothly.  I hit a few turns faster than I thought prudent and it handled them without screeching tires.  Somehat unexpectedly, it hit 39 mpg in mostly mountain driving.  It usually is around 32-33 on freeways at 75-80.  My wife wanted me to try for 40.

Anyway, fortunately, it is an upgrade from the GTI for us olden folks.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 15, 2024, 12:25:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/BaI5z9U.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 15, 2024, 10:52:40 PM
Miss Vivian Bales, a fearless adventurer from Albany, GA, who rode her beloved 1929 Harley-Davidson Model D across thousands of miles in North America during the Prohibition Era.

In the late 1920s, Vivian embarked on a cross-country motorcycling trip that would make her one of the first great women riders, and Harley-Davidson remembers the goodwill she spread while touring the country on her 45 cubic inch twin D model.


(https://i.imgur.com/gR6MomO.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/KE8UcUx.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 16, 2024, 05:39:39 AM
Wrong thread.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 16, 2024, 07:06:29 AM
Currently on a layover at Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport - very nice. From here work is sending me into the Third World. To a region where the Travelex agents just told me they don’t carry these particular nations’ cash because their governments are too unstable to dependably rate their currency.

Our working group is supposed to have armed Marines assigned from the Embassy escorting us, but that might only be for when we’re transiting between the cities. Otherwise, not allowed anywhere alone.

This trip has been in the works for awhile but I’m briefed to not to say much more than to give short notice to family/friends that I will be unreachable for a few weeks. Although there are apparently “internet credits” that can be bought for limited online access.

Will let Folgers leave one last, vague hint:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iGytoFUDZiw&pp=ygUlZm9sZ2VycyBicm90aGVyIGFuZCBzaXN0ZXIgY29tbWVyY2lhbA%3D%3D

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2024, 07:40:24 AM
That sounds ... dicey, even to me.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 16, 2024, 08:59:39 AM
Cincy "danger" Dawg
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 16, 2024, 09:00:29 AM
Wrong thread.
you would prefer the "Hotties Thread"?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 16, 2024, 09:09:42 AM
Weird history.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 16, 2024, 09:44:29 AM
I'm surprised at Istanbul being #3 on that list above.

Why did Constantinople get the works?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 16, 2024, 09:47:43 AM
I'm surprised at Istanbul being #3 on that list above.

Why did Constantinople get the works?
It's a big connection airport for a number of airlines.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 16, 2024, 10:11:55 AM
perhaps one night stays within 2 miles of the airport should count as 1/4?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2024, 10:44:51 AM
We changed planes in Istanbul last year.  It's a large airport with very weird intrusive security procedures.

Haneda was/is a large airport, with a long way to walk after you deplane.  Seoul has a very nice modern airport.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on April 16, 2024, 12:26:16 PM
It's a big connection airport for a number of airlines.
Istanbul doesn't make any sense as an eastbound scissor hub unless the western European airplanes don't have the legs to make it to East Asia without refueling. And if they didn't, they're going to Anchorage for fuel, not Istanbul.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 16, 2024, 12:30:02 PM
I agree it doesn't make sense, but I've planned a lot of travel and it popped up as a connection to a lot of Eastern European countries and even as far West as Rome.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2024, 12:30:21 PM
Exploring The World's 10 Longest Non-Stop Airline Routes | Aviation Market Analysis (oag.com) (https://www.oag.com/blog/exploring-the-worlds-10-longest-non-stop-airline-routes)

Most of these involve Singapore/Australia/NZ.

I think Istanbul has a convenient hub location near the ME.  There are a lot of flights from Europe to India that use Istanbul, for example.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2024, 12:55:23 PM
More Of The Best Small Towns Across America (heraldweekly.com) (https://www.heraldweekly.com/the-best-small-towns-across-america-part2/70?xcmg=1&_d=d)

I counted about ten of these I've visited.  If "charming" or best includes Gatlinburg and Helen, GA, well, OK I guess.  The other choices seemed OK to me.



Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 17, 2024, 09:38:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/z9VA5aT.png)

This has become a tourist magnet of sorts, and it has taken on a lot of "touristy" stuff, not all of which is good IMHO.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2024, 09:44:13 AM
Where is that?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 17, 2024, 09:49:25 AM
Savannah, GA.  We spent three days there a few years back to "see" the city.  I think it's interesting enough to visit for 3 days.  But, aspects of it today have lost a bit of old style charm through they tried to retain it, somewhat artificially.  It's kind of neat to sit outside on River Walk and watch a massive container ship glide by.  I think it's the 4th largest port in the US now, and the ships transit the river inland about 25 miles or so.  If one lost power ....

(https://i.imgur.com/MT7XNep.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2024, 10:01:04 AM
Never been. My wife has (for a convention) and she said it was really nice. This is about 20 years ago or so.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 17, 2024, 10:04:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/qd5cZgY.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 17, 2024, 10:12:04 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Pb1gk4a.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on April 17, 2024, 01:30:38 PM
Never been. My wife has (for a convention) and she said it was really nice. This is about 20 years ago or so.
Large city with a small town feel, depending where you are. I enjoy hanging out on River St, and my wife enjoys wandering around town. We have friends who just moved there from here in Northern Ohio. Will probably be there from time to time now. 

I don't recommend visiting in the summer months as I thought I was going to die of heat stroke last year. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 17, 2024, 01:36:30 PM
I think it's worth a visit, but not in summer ...

Stay near the waterfront though.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on April 17, 2024, 01:40:45 PM
Yeah, for years we were restricted to travel in the summer due to kids in school and sports. Unfortunately, we got into that habit and didn't think it through when we made the trip to Tybee Island and Savannah a couple of years back. (I was thinking it was last year, but apparently it was in 2022). We have now decided to head north in the summer and save the south for the cooler months. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2024, 01:49:26 PM
Yeah, for years we were restricted to travel in the summer due to kids in school and sports. Unfortunately, we got into that habit and didn't think it through when we made the trip to Tybee Island and Savannah a couple of years back. (I was thinking it was last year, but apparently it was in 2022). We have now decided to head north in the summer and save the south for the cooler months.
Come visit Florida in July. Savanah would be a dry heat.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 17, 2024, 01:55:19 PM
Come visit Florida in July. Savanah would be a dry heat.
Yeah when we went to Pensacola last summer the locals kept apologizing for the heat.  It felt about 15 degrees cooler than Austin was at the same time of year.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 17, 2024, 02:36:34 PM
I find in July that being right on the ocean makes a difference vs being inland 3+ miles.  Something about the wind.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 18, 2024, 12:00:19 AM
Currently on a layover at Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport - very nice. From here work is sending me into the Third World. To a region where the Travelex agents just told me they don’t carry these particular nations’ cash because their governments are too unstable to dependably rate their currency.

Our working group is supposed to have armed Marines assigned from the Embassy escorting us, but that might only be for when we’re transiting between the cities. Otherwise, not allowed anywhere alone.

So far, so good here in West Africa. FIRST TIME TO AFRICA! For workdays confined to the very large Capitol City, it is not unstable enough to require armed escort, but for the onsite visits we’re scheduled to make out into the greater coastal region that might be a different story. Probably safer than it sounds, but nevertheless quite a chaotic area.

Our hotel property is more like a compound, charging western prices for rooms behind high walls topped with barbed wire, and heavily guarded at the gates. The amenities are of a Vegas level resort with pools, fountains, spas, sports bars, gyms, shuttles, and room service. In the most impoverished of nations it’s common for leading hotel brands (like Marriot and Hilton) to build a luxury property at the international airport (like in Delhi) or at a tourist sight (like Luxor), and as mentioned above, charge prices unaffordable to the local population for rooms that are walled off from the local population.

As our flight lands the other night, the cabin is fumigated as precaution against the regional spread of malaria and Yellow Fever. At customs I’m sent through the diplomatic line. It is midnight. Outside the terminal a large, vocal crowd waits in the thick humidity. A taxi driver takes my luggage through the crowd. He wants to know where? I ask if he can take credit cards. He walks me to a 24-hour currency exchange where I trade out cash. At the first large intersection outside the airport, a pack of boys, ages 10 to 12, walk up to idling vehicles, hawking everything from bottled water to phone chargers to animal crackers to wild birds. They crowd my passenger window, about eight of them, once they recognize a white guy is riding shotgun. In the morning I am awoken by an exotic hornbill rapping on my room window:

(https://i.imgur.com/ahLhh1q.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 18, 2024, 06:16:49 AM
Wow. Where exactly are you, and what is the visit for?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on April 18, 2024, 06:23:24 AM
Yeah, for years we were restricted to travel in the summer due to kids in school and sports. Unfortunately, we got into that habit and didn't think it through when we made the trip to Tybee Island and Savannah a couple of years back. (I was thinking it was last year, but apparently it was in 2022). We have now decided to head north in the summer and save the south for the cooler months.
Ah Ontario/Quebec good choices
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on April 18, 2024, 06:45:21 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/MT7XNep.jpeg)
Ah quite quaint,reminiscent of a gondola ride thru the Venetian canals at sunset. Progress.....
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 18, 2024, 07:35:01 AM
Wow. Where exactly are you, and what is the visit for?
He can’t say for security. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 18, 2024, 09:49:02 AM
it's double secret

I'm guessing the Hornbill isn't exotic locally 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 18, 2024, 09:54:06 AM
Currently on a layover at Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport - very nice. From here work is sending me into the Third World. To a region where the Travelex agents just told me they don’t carry these particular nations’ cash because their governments are too unstable to dependably rate their currency.

Our working group is supposed to have armed Marines assigned from the Embassy escorting us, but that might only be for when we’re transiting between the cities. Otherwise, not allowed anywhere alone.

This trip has been in the works for awhile but I’m briefed to not to say much more than to give short notice to family/friends that I will be unreachable for a few weeks. Although there are apparently “internet credits” that can be bought for limited online access.

Will let Folgers leave one last, vague hint:


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 18, 2024, 12:12:45 PM
Wow. Where exactly are you, and what is the visit for?
Little Rock
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 19, 2024, 03:01:09 AM
Wow. Where exactly are you, and what is the visit for?

it's double secret

The Embassy is laying off the armed escort requirement unless business requires us to venture over into its borderline failed neighboring states. Instead our group has been given a full time driver entrusted by the Embassies to chauffeur foreigners.

As for the Capital City, the international airport district is modernized with glassy office towers and well known business outlets like Pizza Hut, Shell, Best Western, Burger King, Marriot, Illy, KFC, DHL, and Nike – brands mostly unseen across the rest of the nation. The Capital City is also built up and modernized in its central area of Embassies, the Parliament, the National Universities & Museums, and along a strand of beachfront dominated by resort hotels catering to foreign travelers. I say “built up and modernized” as in wide/paved streets cleared of squatter settlements, operable traffic/street lights, and powered buildings with fenced off parking.

Outside of that though, the streets of West Africa are as visibly destitute as anywhere among the world’s poorest areas. I mention our local driver, because when driving us he hears our reaction to some of the shanty sights we’ve never encountered before – sewage runoff in the streets, livestock crossings whose cattle and goats stall traffic, people walking out in en masse everywhere, children lacking shoes and full clothing, people living out of plywood structures, and trash mounded in the streets. For our driver, this is his native land – the neighborhoods he grew up in – so after yesterday’s long day visiting a jobsite, we ask him over dinner whether some of the sights we’re unfamiliar with are reactions he’s already heard from other foreigners he’s chauffeured. He tells us that he finds us foreigner’s unfamiliarity mostly humorous. In return, by chauffeuring us he gets treated to restaurants and properties otherwise unavailable to most of the local population.

I didn’t have a lot of success taking pictures yesterday, though did capture glimpses of the widespread practice of head-carrying, especially by women balancing dish pails of bottled water and ice for selling to passing traffic – notice our driver reflected in the window:

(https://i.imgur.com/mY0Nwa2.jpeg)


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 19, 2024, 07:46:01 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/5kqR6sf.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 19, 2024, 07:51:16 AM
I'm amazed at how Vegas built up over a few years when everyone who goes there beats the House.

(https://i.imgur.com/sm5b4zx.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 19, 2024, 07:52:24 AM
The Embassy is laying off the armed escort requirement unless business requires us to venture over into its borderline failed neighboring states. Instead our group has been given a full time driver entrusted by the Embassies to chauffeur foreigners.

As for the Capital City, the international airport district is modernized with glassy office towers and well known business outlets like Pizza Hut, Shell, Best Western, Burger King, Marriot, Illy, KFC, DHL, and Nike – brands mostly unseen across the rest of the nation. The Capital City is also built up and modernized in its central area of Embassies, the Parliament, the National Universities & Museums, and along a strand of beachfront dominated by resort hotels catering to foreign travelers. I say “built up and modernized” as in wide/paved streets cleared of squatter settlements, operable traffic/street lights, and powered buildings with fenced off parking.

Outside of that though, the streets of West Africa are as visibly destitute as anywhere among the world’s poorest areas. I mention our local driver, because when driving us he hears our reaction to some of the shanty sights we’ve never encountered before – sewage runoff in the streets, livestock crossings whose cattle and goats stall traffic, people walking out in en masse everywhere, children lacking shoes and full clothing, people living out of plywood structures, and trash mounded in the streets. For our driver, this is his native land – the neighborhoods he grew up in – so after yesterday’s long day visiting a jobsite, we ask him over dinner whether some of the sights we’re unfamiliar with are reactions he’s already heard from other foreigners he’s chauffeured. He tells us that he finds us foreigner’s unfamiliarity mostly humorous. In return, by chauffeuring us he gets treated to restaurants and properties otherwise unavailable to most of the local population.

I didn’t have a lot of success taking pictures yesterday, though did capture glimpses of the widespread practice of head-carrying, especially by women balancing dish pails of bottled water and ice for selling to passing traffic – notice our driver reflected in the window:

(https://i.imgur.com/mY0Nwa2.jpeg)



That does not look good, by any stretch.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 19, 2024, 08:37:54 AM
My Dad traveled to some West Africa and central Africa countries like during the 80s.  I remember him telling me that nobody painted anything or managed the landscape since the French liberated these colonies.    He has some unsavory memories. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 19, 2024, 08:50:41 AM
My crazy neighbor goes there fairly often for photography, some really crazy places, on his own.  His last two trips were to Ethiopia and Ghana.  He's about to go back to Algeria, but that's with some Italian friends.

We're thinking about South Africa.  We've visited Egypt a bit, it wasn't TOO bad, I'd go back.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 19, 2024, 08:51:56 AM
you don't have to go that far to take photos or drink beer
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 19, 2024, 08:58:04 AM
He has some terrific photos and enters contests often, it's his hobby, in a major way.  He dropped $35 K on a new camera and lenses recently.

Turgay Uzer (@upgrademeforfree) • Instagram photos and videos (https://www.instagram.com/upgrademeforfree/)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmogwpuHeyE/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 19, 2024, 09:02:43 AM
This is him at the "Immigration Office" between Botswana and Namibia.  He says it's pretty basic.  He's an interesting fellow and will be our guide in Istanbul in September.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSo2I6xDSDf/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 19, 2024, 09:09:09 AM
unmanned immigration???

sounds like Texas
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 19, 2024, 11:51:49 AM
The Embassy is laying off the armed escort requirement unless business requires us to venture over into its borderline failed neighboring states. Instead our group has been given a full time driver entrusted by the Embassies to chauffeur foreigners.

As for the Capital City, the international airport district is modernized with glassy office towers and well known business outlets like Pizza Hut, Shell, Best Western, Burger King, Marriot, Illy, KFC, DHL, and Nike – brands mostly unseen across the rest of the nation. The Capital City is also built up and modernized in its central area of Embassies, the Parliament, the National Universities & Museums, and along a strand of beachfront dominated by resort hotels catering to foreign travelers. I say “built up and modernized” as in wide/paved streets cleared of squatter settlements, operable traffic/street lights, and powered buildings with fenced off parking.

Outside of that though, the streets of West Africa are as visibly destitute as anywhere among the world’s poorest areas. I mention our local driver, because when driving us he hears our reaction to some of the shanty sights we’ve never encountered before – sewage runoff in the streets, livestock crossings whose cattle and goats stall traffic, people walking out in en masse everywhere, children lacking shoes and full clothing, people living out of plywood structures, and trash mounded in the streets. For our driver, this is his native land – the neighborhoods he grew up in – so after yesterday’s long day visiting a jobsite, we ask him over dinner whether some of the sights we’re unfamiliar with are reactions he’s already heard from other foreigners he’s chauffeured. He tells us that he finds us foreigner’s unfamiliarity mostly humorous. In return, by chauffeuring us he gets treated to restaurants and properties otherwise unavailable to most of the local population.

I didn’t have a lot of success taking pictures yesterday, though did capture glimpses of the widespread practice of head-carrying, especially by women balancing dish pails of bottled water and ice for selling to passing traffic – notice our driver reflected in the window:

(https://i.imgur.com/mY0Nwa2.jpeg)




I know you can't say but I'm going to guess it is either Guinea or Ivory Coast.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on April 20, 2024, 05:25:08 PM
Indiana has some beautiful County Courthouses.  This is Vigo in Terre Haute.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 20, 2024, 06:04:31 PM
Balboa Island, Newport Beach 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 21, 2024, 07:16:38 AM
I've always been fascinated by this canal for some reason.

(https://i.imgur.com/udbFxxP.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 22, 2024, 07:24:22 AM

I know you can't say but I'm going to guess it is either Guinea or Ivory Coast.

One of those yes. But none of those are the nation we’re spending the most time in. Not to be annoyingly secretive but I’m supposed to be interviewed at the end of this trip and I want to be able to say I didn’t reveal whereabouts.
 
Yesterday our driver (Kobi) arranges for us a visit to shopping market. To keep the hustlers at bay, Kobi connects us with a local guide name Yemi to mediate pricing the various merchandise we eventually buy.
 
On the drive there, the Know-It-All among our group (always wearing loud Hawaiian shirts) obnoxiously lectures us on “standing our ground” when haggling. “Whatever they ask you better talk their offer down to half that amount or walk away,” he demands.
 
Our group draws immediate attention not just in the market, but anytime we’re off the hotel property. That attention quickly turns to getting hustled for money, solicited for whatever the street venders might be hawking, and potentially getting surrounded by marginal crowds. We can’t go anywhere.
 
So it’s helpful to have Yemi mediate our market experience. Several of us know what we’re here to buy, including myself: a stack of postcards, an Africa-themed painting small enough to fit in my luggage, and a carved Christian cross of the kind that’s posted on the walls of many businesses and homes. I avoid haggling, willingly (over)paying their initially offers at a total of $60 in their currency.
 
As the lady among us takes the most time shopping, ultimately spending about $150 worth on dresses, the Know-It-All makes an obnoxious jerk of himself by aggressively haggling to the point of insulting shop owners. “It’s ok to let yourself get ripped off,” I tell him while the lady among us is fitted for dresses. “It’s not even about saving money. It’s about winning the interaction!” the Know-It-All insists. “I don’t think winning is the polite approach here,” I try to reason.
 
Yemi walks over, wanting to renegotiate items that the Know-It-All walked away from. The Know-It-All carries on his clownish haggling even more, blind to the better deals he’s offered. Yemi is as insulted as the shop owners. Resentment calms when, out of site, I tip Yemi ($15) for guiding us through the market.
 
On the ride back, passing by sights of overwhelming street poverty, it’s my turn to lecture. I emphasize to the Know-It-All that however much he thought he was getting overcharged is worth gladly (over)paying, like I did, because that dollar difference goes miles further here in the Third World than however much is saved in his First World. I hold off telling him how clueless, ungenerous, and unappreciative he comes across.
 
The Market:


(https://i.imgur.com/FBJuAJ8.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 22, 2024, 07:31:06 AM
My wife loves to haggle, it's a French thing I guess.  We were in Mexico and she was haggling with this poor fellow at Chichen Itza.  I slid him a bit of money as we left and she got quite irate with me.  I agree with you, maybe it's $5 for me, which means hardly anything these days, and maybe for them it's a day's profit and ability to survive a bit.

I had friends climb Mt. Kilimanjaru.  They encountered a school on the way down that was so poor but trying so hard they emptied their wallets to give them.  This sort of thing can make a much larger difference of course than anything we do here.

We hardly ever encounter a panhandler here, I know she won't let me give them a buck or three.  I probably would if they asked nicely.  She's explained in France they are "nearly" all grifters, many with nice state paid apartments, and no job, so they sit near a church and plead for money from tourists.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 22, 2024, 07:40:29 AM
I have concluded my wife does not care for "scenery", e.g., driving on the Blue Ridge Parkway for example.  She says it's boring.

I need to factor that in.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 22, 2024, 08:41:14 AM
One of our best trips started in Barcelona.  We rented a car and drove across the Pyrenees into France, had lunch in Foix, and then stayed three nights at a nice B&B in Lourdes.  (My wife is Catholic and wanted to visit the site there, which to me was rather confusing in a way.)  The B&B lady suggested a place for dinner in walking distance that was so good we dined there all three nights.  We drove west to see Pau where some friends had moved and then to Biarritz, which was "interesting".  Then back to Barcelona for a cruise, my wife's first, that went to Italy and back up to Monte Carlo and Nice and then Maiorca (which was OK) and then back to Barcelona, where we stayed three nights.

That's when my wife decided she liked cruises.  You unpack once, and get to see a variety of places, usually for one day, sometimes two.  We're trying now to see "Asia" as best we can.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 22, 2024, 10:38:34 AM
My wife loves to haggle, it's a French thing I guess.  We were in Mexico and she was haggling with this poor fellow at Chichen Itza.  I slid him a bit of money as we left and she got quite irate with me.  I agree with you, maybe it's $5 for me, which means hardly anything these days, and maybe for them it's a day's profit and ability to survive a bit.

You're a nice fellow, CD, but I can assure you after scores of visits to Mexico, nobody there is going to sell you something for a "bargain."  They will actually let you walk away if you go below what they consider a fair price.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 22, 2024, 10:41:24 AM
You're a nice fellow, CD, but I can assure you after scores of visits to Mexico, nobody there is going to sell you something for a "bargain."  They will actually let you walk away if you go below what they consider a fair price.
This is especially true in Cabo.

One my friends and I were in a Farmacia on our last trip to get some various things. I got my deal for my stuff, but my friend wanted better. They actually asked him to leave and refused to sell him at the price I paid. You can't be an asshole, which he was, in my opinion. I even told him so.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 22, 2024, 11:01:54 AM
You're a nice fellow, CD, but I can assure you after scores of visits to Mexico, nobody there is going to sell you something for a "bargain."  They will actually let you walk away if you go below what they consider a fair price.
Yeah, I realize that, I know his "list price" was 3x what he would take, maybe.  But he looked poor, and we're not.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 23, 2024, 04:39:04 AM
One standout scene in West Africa is the dress(es) of the local women. It’s rare to see a grown women wearing anything besides brightly decorative, multi-colored dresses. Everywhere for all kinds of daily outings. With most hems reaching to the ankles. Hardly ever shorts, jeans, or pants – only worn by the men.

Their other standout feature is the effort given to their detailed hairstyles of thick braids, afros tied back with colorful headbands, spiral/frizzy curls, zig-zag cornrows, and cornrows ending in colored beads or colored extensions. Likely a lot of the hairstyles we’re used to seeing African-American women proudly wear.

It all goes to show you how universal matters of apparel, hair, and appearance are to women. That even in the most economically impoverished regions of the world, poverty is no obstacle to the amount of time and resources women will invest into flattering clothing and stylish hair. As an innate personal dignity of theirs.

Their faces are pretty, but “pretty” isn’t quite the word that captures it in West Africa. Striking is a better word for the formalness expressed in their faces; there’s a striking seriousness to their facial expression that exudes elegance over the more relaxed friendliness that’s more often emanated by a quicker-to-smile Western face.

The below picture is a good example of women in their daily dress(es). This is a picture not that I took but rather from an internet search. It’s too difficult to take unsuspecting pictures of the locals given just how much immediate attention our group draws in streets. More on that in another post.

(https://i.imgur.com/HIX88O0.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 25, 2024, 11:49:23 AM
Our local, embassy-hired driver hauls our group in an SUV with blacked-out windows except for the windshield. The backseats fill up, leaving one of us seated shotgun, and visible to the many people walking the city streets.

People are outside everywhere, uniformly African; hundreds waiting at bus stops, ambling along dirt roadsides, head-carrying, and hawking goods to idling traffic. Many pause once noticing us foreigners visible through the front window. Hawkers raise their merchandise to our windows, and a few extend their hands for cash or holdup damp washcloths, hoping for tips to wipe down the windshield. The rest who begin noticing pause for the uncommon faces in our SUV.

Africa is long exposed to Hollywood, but with Westerners a rare street sighting, our Anglo faces are a novelty substitute for famous faces. Wherever we go we receive celebrity attention, most of it innocent, such as groups of uniformed school children stopping to gaze on their way to school, but the longer we sit at an intersection, the more others gather around our SUV. Eventually our driver releases the brake to inch through the crowds, picking up enough speed to go unnoticed until slowing for the next busy intersection.

(https://i.imgur.com/zIh8Pb1.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 27, 2024, 04:48:53 AM
One of the hotels where we spend several nights passing through has a beachfront. Like anywhere else in the city, we draw outsized attention on approaching the Atlantic waves. We are relentlessly solicited for horse rides, necklaces, and cigarettes. The beach smells like salt and marijuana smoke.

We buy a few items we’re otherwise not allowed to go into the city for, overpaying for more jerseys, fridge magnets, and key chains. A dozen others gather around where we’re seated beneath beach umbrellas. Instead of buying more items, we share pizzas and bottles of the national beer we order from a waitress checking in on us from a beach bar. In the equatorial heat and humidity, our new friends drink fast; the waitress increases the price of each round.

We ask about their daily lives. They puff their blunts and tell us they get by selling souvenirs to beachgoers. They sip beer and tell us they quite often have zero-profit weeks where they resort to dining on their personal reserves of rice, bread, and mince.

The man in dreadlocks pictured below is named Adji. He is a former pipefitter now spending his days on the beach, smoking and hawking. He tells us he quit pipefitting for pipe smoking because his pay was too inconsistent. Meaning he’d worked for too many construction bosses who too frequently skipped out on paying his $40/week rate. Adji answers more of our questions: the average nurse only earns about $250/month. Most of the ornate dresses worn by their population of women are not bought but rather hand sewn by those wearing them (or by other family members). Many neighborhoods suffer power and water outages lasting up to 3 and 4 days. And larger infrastructure projects such as port improvements or highway widening can take a decade to complete due to work stoppages caused by chronically defrauded federal budgets.

It’s time for us to say goodbye as a bonfire is lit at sunset. Leaving the beach for the hotel behind us, we are confronted by a group of fire-breathers asking gratuity for a performance we hadn’t even noticed occurring off to the side. Fortunately Adji and his friends tell them to get lost.

(https://i.imgur.com/875sUdW.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 27, 2024, 09:23:09 AM
medium lager
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 28, 2024, 02:03:12 PM
Heading off in a few hours for my retirement trip.  14 days trans-alantic cruise (6 stops in European ports), then another 14 days in England and France and then a week in Maine & Mass.  Not sure how much internet access I will have, but when I do I will post some pics.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 29, 2024, 06:20:56 AM
On the drive there, the Know-It-All among our group (always wearing loud Hawaiian shirts) obnoxiously lectures us on “standing our ground” when haggling...the Know-It-All makes an obnoxious jerk of himself by aggressively haggling to the point of insulting shop owners. “It’s ok to let yourself get ripped off,” I tell him while the lady among us is fitted for dresses. “It’s not even about saving money. It’s about winning the interaction!” the Know-It-All insists…The Know-It-All carries on his clownish haggling even more...

Wouldn’t you know, the obnoxious Know-It-All among us got kicked off the trip and abruptly flown home for engaging in prostitution on his downtime. His boss, traveling with us, suspected something was awry, looked into it, and over the weekend sent him packing on the next flight out.

What was the final giveaway? We noticed a mark like a scrap running on the side of his neck, red but deeper than an imprint as though from a knife blade pressed barely hard enough to break the skin. Turns out there was(!) a blade pressed against his neck.

The Know-It-All tried to hide it by wearing the collars of his Hawaiian shirts high. But by the end of the day all of had mentioned our range of suspicions until his boss took him aside to continue a contentious dialogue they’d been carrying behind the scenes since we all arrived in West Africa: Whether the Know-It-All was leaving the hotel compound by himself every night.

Whatever he did or didn’t confess was enough to end his trip. Our driver later told us that the Know-It-All had asked him for personal rides to where prostitutes could be found. Our driver refused, referencing his contract prohibiting him from offering off-hours, personal trips. But the Know-It-All insisted, so our driver referred him to one of his many taxi driving buddies.

When our driver found out the Know-It-All was kicked off the trip he told us that his taxi driver friend had driven the Know-It-All to a local shanty town business (a bordello?) known for arranging what the Know-It-All wanted. Minutes later the Know-It-All returned to the taxi shaken over getting robbed at knife-point inside by a man (a pimp?) holding a blade to his neck until the Know-It-All emptied over $400 from his wallet.

Needless to say, West Africa is not the place to go chasing the night.

(https://i.imgur.com/itZE3QR.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 06:45:45 AM
Know it all seemingly knows nothing.

Your trip will now be better!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on April 29, 2024, 08:28:43 AM
Addition by subtraction.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on April 29, 2024, 09:18:13 AM
Needless to say, West Africa is not the place to go chasing the night.
Guess he couldn't cut it
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 29, 2024, 09:36:45 AM
I think he finally got the point.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 29, 2024, 10:24:35 AM
Guess he shouldn't have haggled.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 29, 2024, 12:43:50 PM
I would have thought Black Star would be a better name for that beer. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 29, 2024, 01:08:40 PM
In April, the website unveiled its rankings for the most expensive airports in North America, after collecting price data for hotel stays, parking, and a pint of beer. Once it looked at all the information, it named San Diego International Airport (SAN) the most expensive airport in America.

According to the findings, accommodations, parking, and a beer would cost someone $574.46 on average at the airport. "Looking to bunk nearby? Be ready to splurge, with an average hotel rate of $529 per night, $265 more than the average. Parking? Well, it'll set you back $38, landing SAN in the top three for pricey parking spots," the findings revealed. "But fear not, beer lovers — your pre-flight beverage won't break the bank here, coming in at a modest $7.46."

Denver International Airport (DEN) came in second, with an average total for hotel, parking, and beer at $514.74. "It claims the second spot for the priciest airport hotels, ringing in at a hefty $477.33 per night. Need a parking spot? That’ll be $30 for the night. The good news? If you're fancying a frosty beverage before takeoff, you’ll be paying lower than the average, at $7.41 per beer."

Rounding out the top three is Nashville International Airport (BNA), which averages $449.24 for a hotel, parking, and a beer.


https://www.travelandleisure.com/san-diego-international-most-expensive-airport-north-america-8638940 (https://www.travelandleisure.com/san-diego-international-most-expensive-airport-north-america-8638940)

If, by some miracle, you get to choose which hotels to fly through on your next trip, you may want to choose San Jose International Airport (SJC), which ranked as the least expensive. Hotel prices here come in "at just $79, an impressive $152 less than the average," the findings noted. "Thirsty travelers will be pleased, with beers priced at $7.75, while parking spots go for $18. That brings the grand total to $105.08, which is a wallet-friendly $159.17 below the average across all airports."
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 29, 2024, 02:02:24 PM
In April, the website unveiled its rankings for the most expensive airports in North America, after collecting price data for hotel stays, parking, and a pint of beer. Once it looked at all the information, it named San Diego International Airport (SAN) the most expensive airport in America.

According to the findings, accommodations, parking, and a beer would cost someone $574.46 on average at the airport. "Looking to bunk nearby? Be ready to splurge, with an average hotel rate of $529 per night, $265 more than the average. Parking? Well, it'll set you back $38, landing SAN in the top three for pricey parking spots," the findings revealed. "But fear not, beer lovers — your pre-flight beverage won't break the bank here, coming in at a modest $7.46."

Denver International Airport (DEN) came in second, with an average total for hotel, parking, and beer at $514.74. "It claims the second spot for the priciest airport hotels, ringing in at a hefty $477.33 per night. Need a parking spot? That’ll be $30 for the night. The good news? If you're fancying a frosty beverage before takeoff, you’ll be paying lower than the average, at $7.41 per beer."

Rounding out the top three is Nashville International Airport (BNA), which averages $449.24 for a hotel, parking, and a beer.


https://www.travelandleisure.com/san-diego-international-most-expensive-airport-north-america-8638940 (https://www.travelandleisure.com/san-diego-international-most-expensive-airport-north-america-8638940)

If, by some miracle, you get to choose which hotels to fly through on your next trip, you may want to choose San Jose International Airport (SJC), which ranked as the least expensive. Hotel prices here come in "at just $79, an impressive $152 less than the average," the findings noted. "Thirsty travelers will be pleased, with beers priced at $7.75, while parking spots go for $18. That brings the grand total to $105.08, which is a wallet-friendly $159.17 below the average across all airports."
San Diego being expensive for a hotel makes sense. The airport is very near downtown, and obviously hotels in downtown San Diego aren't cheap. It's always a crazy airport to fly into because it seems like you're flying right into the heart of the city. 

Denver likewise being expensive for a hotel makes sense, because the airport is out in the middle of nowhere. So if you're stuck overnight, you're pretty much a captive customer and you're paying what they're charging. It's a weird airport because as I understand it they expected the city/suburbs to extend out to the east where they sited the airport, and it just went the opposite direction.

Can't say much about Nashville, as I've never really spent time there nor traveled through there. I'm not sure I've actually EVER been in that airport in my life...

San Jose hotel prices surprise me... But only a little. Maybe you CAN find a room for $79, but I'm not sure it's in any hotel that you'd want to stay. The airport (like many airports) is not in the nicest area of the city. 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 02:07:44 PM
Nashville is a great spot to be delayed. Awesome live music is everywhere.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 29, 2024, 08:13:41 PM
for a price
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 30, 2024, 06:20:13 AM
No, it's free. It's just people trying to make it/get discovered.

Food and drinks are not free.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on April 30, 2024, 10:56:29 AM
My in-laws got delayed in Nashville back in January on their way back from Florida. They ended up drinking their way around the airport listening to live music most of the day while waiting for their rescheduled flight. They had a great time.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 30, 2024, 11:01:32 AM
Orlando pretty much should be avoided. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 01, 2024, 07:01:04 AM
Know it all seemingly knows nothing.

Your trip will now be better!

It’s a relief to not have him around anymore. Know-It-All embarrassed himself by crudely haggling at the markets, wearing a neon speedo at the beach, getting obnoxiously drunk at the hotel lounge, and now each of us have to submit witness statements as part of an investigation into his alleged prostitution, a habit it turns out he is actively under investigation from TWO previous business trips.

Thankfully without him along, and for our first day off from work, our group visited Castles along the gulf shores formerly known as the Gold Coast, as named under Colonial British rule.

Our first visit is to Elmina Castle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmina_Castle), constructed by Portuguese naval forces in 1482, a full decade before Christopher Columbus reached the New World. To quote its Wikipedia page, Elmina Castle is the “first trading post built on the Gulf of Guinea, and the oldest European building in existence south of the Sahara.” The second castle we tour, Cape Coast Castle, was settled in 1555, also by the Portuguese. Both Castles were first operated as trading posts for the very profitable quantities of timber and gold found in the heavily forested inland regions.

Both Castles are ultimately more famous for eventually becoming slave dungeons for the Atlantic slave trade that operated from the 16th to the 19th centuries. Tours focus on this unfortunate period, and carry the somberness of touring the site of a concentration camp. The dungeons – unventilated, humid, and dark – divided between male and females, are still in tact. As are their famous “Door Of No Return,” gated exits through which captives destined for the Americas were led to the beaches where off the coast waited slave ships.

Image below – the cannon wall of Elmina Castle above the harbor town; Fort Coenraadsburg sits on its hill in upper right, built by occupying Dutch forces in the 1660s:

(https://i.imgur.com/t5Rfqsa.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 01, 2024, 07:33:54 AM
Sounds like know it all will be good at knowing how to not keep a job.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on May 01, 2024, 11:29:41 AM
At Halifax. All I have to say is that it quite cold.  Not use to temperatures in the low 40s for a high
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 03, 2024, 07:00:09 AM
Final observations on West Africa as my trip wraps up:

West Africa is outwardly Christian; the masses are weekly Churchgoers. Bible verses are proudly imprinted across taxis and displayed in shops and restaurants. But I worry the churches ask too much of their memberships whose poverty doesn’t afford them the financial means to give. But the people do – other than the Embassies, Parliament buildings, and National universities concentrated in the capital cities, the churches have the fanciest properties.

Crowds are visible everywhere; Dozens of street venders working every intersection, hundreds waiting at bus stops, thousands filling the open air markets. The locals are hard at work everyday, with an emphasis, it seems, on getting through the day rather than minding their futures. I put it this way in order to theorize how the reality of widespread poverty subjects a population to living in the moment of daily survival at the cost of not having the stability or prospects to envision a personal future that an American might expect through education, career advancement, and upward mobility.

Of the three visible classes of locals, the 1) Educated Class does better for themselves, but their salaries as nurses, teachers, and government officials are paltry compared to those in the developed world. 2) A Working Class of taxi drivers, truck drivers, and construction workers get by. And what I’ll refer to as the 3) Sub-Working Class does what it takes to survive, hawking in the streets and living off their own efforts at growing, trading, and storing food. Despite their numbers, Africa’s impoverished populations have never organized into the cheap factory labor to the production scale seen across Asia. In the world’s poorest nations, most of which are in Africa, I wonder if poverty can be so widespread that the collective mindset isn’t receptive to mass labor. That and the relentless heat, stalling labor through the hottest hours of the day.

(https://i.imgur.com/4SMP00D.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 03, 2024, 07:53:22 AM
Thank you giving us this glimpse into what it's like in West Africa. Does not sound all that dissimilar from Uganda from a religion standpoint.

Our friends host a Ugandan Catholic priest when he comes here to fundraise. IT's tough for him to gain entry here so we often support him.

I told him to fly to TJ in Mexico and just cross. Much easier. He just laughed.

Here is the foundation we support:

Zimu Foundation (https://www.zimufoundation.org/index.html)

My friend is the President and Fr. Pete is the founder.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 03, 2024, 08:10:01 AM
seems like some things that are made in China could be produced in West Africa
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 03, 2024, 08:14:42 AM
seems like some things that are made in China could be produced in West Africa
Only if they want to do it. I'm not up for renewed slavery.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 03, 2024, 08:18:35 AM
it's happening today in most places that are shipping goods to the US

well, from what I've heard about the Nike factory making shoes
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 03, 2024, 08:20:38 AM
I wouldn't say most, but China, yeah. They have slavery.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 05, 2024, 04:26:23 PM
Overnight layover through New York last night. Something I always wanted to do was get a hotel room in Manhattan. 27th floor view of Midtown:

(https://i.imgur.com/awGmPCE.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 08, 2024, 12:59:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vy2Leo3.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 08, 2024, 04:25:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/rl5EmnC.png)

LAX 1972.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 08, 2024, 04:28:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ptyHfM7.png)

ATL today, or yesterday maybe.  4,700 acres.  The city of Atlanta is about 85,000 acres.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 08, 2024, 04:29:58 PM


ATL today, or yesterday maybe.
Interesting. Busier than ORD, but fewer runways.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 08, 2024, 04:32:14 PM
Yes, and all east west orientation.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 08, 2024, 04:34:52 PM
Renewing my passport this week. Thankful that I've got a vendor that I can farm it out to through my work and expense it. Definitely better than paying for it myself. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 08, 2024, 04:41:11 PM
I renewed mine a couple years back on my own, it seemed pretty easy, to me.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 08, 2024, 04:50:49 PM
Yeah, I'm sure I could do it myself. But easier to just let them handle it. They do everything including handling any issues that come up if it comes back inaccurate/etc. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 08, 2024, 04:52:44 PM
RSW today. I've shown the future runway with a highlighter. Probably by 2030.

(https://i.imgur.com/8MYXvLc.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 08, 2024, 05:04:58 PM
I read a story about a pilot in a Cessna 152 who decided to toodle around Atlanta around 1 AM looking at the scenery.  On a whim, he called up ATL approach and requeted to do a touch and go, and they, after a pause, allowed it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 09, 2024, 01:00:45 PM
Opinion: I’m a flight attendant. You need to get over your reclining seat rage | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/09/opinions/reclining-seat-rage-airplane-passengers-poole/index.html)

I don't recall hearing anything about this.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 09, 2024, 01:28:49 PM
Opinion: I’m a flight attendant. You need to get over your reclining seat rage | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/09/opinions/reclining-seat-rage-airplane-passengers-poole/index.html)

I don't recall hearing anything about this.
I've seen a few squabbles. If I had my way, seats wouldn't recline. I never do it, to be honest, but I always sit in a good seat with plenty of room.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 11, 2024, 10:52:52 AM
great short rib last night at an Italian place nearby....

I hadn't tried it before

Palermo's in Jackson, NE
a village of 200
the wait staff were all Spanish speaking(https://i.imgur.com/rep45b4.jpeg)

http://palermocuisine.com/
http://palermocuisine.com/ (http://palermocuisine.com/)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 11, 2024, 12:35:27 PM
I am not looking forward to the flight to Seoul next March.  We don't find out what they are until 45 days ahead of the cruise.  Then we fly back from Qatar, if WW 7 doesn't break out.  The seats are listed as "not upgradeable", but with some money they are.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on May 12, 2024, 06:40:56 AM
Been 13 days on a boat still have another 10 days on land in Europe. Been great so far. Dublin (went to guiness warehouse)  Belfast (up to the giant's causeway),  Amsterdam and Ghent. At lahavre today but staying on the ship.  South Hampton tomorrow and onto our land part of the trip.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 12, 2024, 06:44:19 AM
I like Le Harve.  It’s pronounced larv. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on May 16, 2024, 08:05:21 AM
Just finished 3 days in London (actually saw the king and queen by random luck)  sitting in a train station waiting to go to Paris.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 16, 2024, 08:39:53 AM
I enjoyed that train ride, the tunnel is sort of interesting, and the ride isn't very long of course.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 17, 2024, 10:15:16 PM
So if you owned a National Park Pass, and this was your range, what would you do?

(https://bestmapsever.com/cdn/shop/files/0853-NPS-USFS-BLM-FWS-Map-Poster-tan-slate-blue-02.jpg?v=1703101176)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 17, 2024, 10:17:09 PM
buy a case of beer and a bag of ice
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 18, 2024, 07:09:48 AM
I have tried to plan a trip to hit those NPs, it's kind of a difficult job to spend enough time in each and manage within two weeks or so.  We really enjoy Zion a lot.  My wife wants to return to Bryce, and also see the sandstone formations near Page, AZ.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 18, 2024, 08:04:08 AM
So if you owned a National Park Pass, and this was your range, what would you do?

(https://bestmapsever.com/cdn/shop/files/0853-NPS-USFS-BLM-FWS-Map-Poster-tan-slate-blue-02.jpg?v=1703101176)
Stay home.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 18, 2024, 08:09:36 AM
Millions and millions of passengers. 2024 has been a strong start for RSW in Fort Myers. (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/millions-and-millions-of-passengers-2024-has-been-a-strong-start-for-rsw-in-fort-myers/ar-BB1mCg7T?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=7f9789ef27bb4cdfb69ccf44d69c7ac5&ei=51)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 18, 2024, 09:12:32 AM
buy a case of beer and a bag of ice
That's your solution to everything. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 18, 2024, 09:26:53 AM
tried and true
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 20, 2024, 04:04:06 PM
These 7 Countries Are The Nicest To American Tourists (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/tripideas/these-7-countries-are-the-nicest-to-american-tourists/ar-AA1nN4hX?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=447f2ee823b7400db10fe8ab6c63aa4a&ei=10)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 21, 2024, 12:39:41 PM
Morning coffee.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 21, 2024, 12:46:48 PM
I'll be in San Diego, Carlsbad specifically, first of June, for a HS graduation.  I've been there often enough to feel fairly comfortable getting around.  One problem is the flight leaves at 8:15 AM, which should be OK for me, I get up early anyway, my wife doesn't.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 22, 2024, 08:52:52 AM
While it's home to just under 12,000 people, the town of Healdsburg in California's Sonoma County has in recent years come out as a top foodie destination. Now in its third year, the Healdsburg Wine & Food Experience festival is currently running from May 16 to 19 and highlights farmers and chefs that make use of local ingredients and viticulture pairings for their dishes. This year, over 2,000 visitors are expected to descend upon Healdsburg for the festival.

A food and wine festival brings foodie visitors to a small town
On top of the annual festival, several local restaurants have started raking in both awards and visitors coming in specifically for the food in recent years.


Opened just over two years ago in early 2022, Troubadour is a French restaurant that transforms from a Parisian-style baguette sandwich shop during day hours to a fine-dining bistro serving a nightly prix-fixe menu with ingredients such as foie grass and caviar in the evening. Husband-and-wife founders Melissa Yanc McGaughey and Sean McGaughey earned their chops at the 24-acre SingleThread Farms in Dry Creek Valley that also brings in guests for a three Michelin-starred restaurant experience (the restaurant was started by Kyle and Katina Connaughton in 2016 and gained its third Michelin star in 2019.)

Katz, who founded Aperture Cellars in 2009 and was featured in Forbes' "30 under 30" list back in 2013, has gone on to receive 11 100-point scoring wines (the highest combined critic rating a specific wine can receive) and hosts tours on the property that spans 42 acres and has a 4,000-square-foot tasting room — Aperture's wines are served at several local restaurants around the area.

"Getting the first three Michelin star restaurant in Sonoma County history [SingleThread] was huge for us because the region is dedicated to food and wine and once you reach the top pinnacle and get to that level that really says something about the region," Katz told TheStreet. "A lot of people come to this region to visit the wineries but the food is such an integral part of why they stay."
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2024, 08:55:03 AM
We dined with friends at the "Girl and Fig" I think it's called near there and I was prepared to be underwowed based on its reputation, but it was IMHO excellent across the board.  

As for 100 point wines, you know my view of them.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 22, 2024, 09:37:33 AM
I may visit there in January with the daughters

I won't be dining at any Michelin-starred restaurant unless the prices are WAY lower than I expect
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2024, 09:41:31 AM
Healdsburg is quite nice, I think, walkable etc.  The problem is that it attracts Big Money, so stuff is expensive.  This place wasn't cheap but I thought it was quite good.  It's not in Healdsburg, but it's not much different really.

the girl & the fig | French Restaurant in Sonoma, CA (thegirlandthefig.com) (https://www.thegirlandthefig.com/)

Entrees are in the $30s.

Napa has gotten way out of control IMHO, Sonoma is headed that way fast.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 22, 2024, 09:50:27 AM
$30s are doable 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2024, 09:53:44 AM
It sort of amuses me to see a menu that is quasi French that lists the main course items under "Entrees".

OK, that's the American term, and it would confuse "us" if it didn't.

I still like Sonoma county.  I'd advise these days trying to make reservations ahead of time at any restaurant or winery for tastings.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2024, 10:48:24 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/neZWuok.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 22, 2024, 11:13:05 AM
We don't have a desire to go to Napa or Sonoma. We like Washington. Not sure when or if we will get back out there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2024, 11:17:09 AM
Washington is fine, Oregon is fine, also getting a bit pricey.  I've still never been to Paso.

There are a number of wineries in north Georgia now.  Some make OK wine, but in my view, it's $10 wine and they charge $20 for it.  They are more tourist attractions now than actual wineries.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 22, 2024, 01:05:44 PM

Napa has gotten way out of control IMHO, Sonoma is headed that way fast.
Yep. Still, it's very nice. I like Healdsburg. It's right on the edge of the Dry Creek Valley area, where they make the best Zins I've ever had. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 22, 2024, 03:28:48 PM
Based on what I've seen at the resort pool, the current trend in bikini bottoms is to show a prodigious amount of cheek. 

Not a complaint; just FYI, in case anyone's thinking of heading to a resort any time soon. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2024, 03:47:23 PM
I saw some of those when traveling, fortunately on females, not males, and young females who were not obese.  There is a lady in our bldg who sunbathes by the pool which is visible from the elevator lounge who wears a thong thingee, and she's not all that attractive.

I guess it doesn't  take many yards of fabric these days to cover the necessaries just "barely"....




Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 22, 2024, 03:50:15 PM
Based on what I've seen at the resort pool, the current trend in bikini bottoms is to show a prodigious amount of cheek.

Not a complaint; just FYI, in case anyone's thinking of heading to a resort any time soon.
Where you at?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on May 22, 2024, 04:48:10 PM
Where you at?
Heaven, apparently.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 22, 2024, 05:35:50 PM
Where you at?
Kauai 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 22, 2024, 05:47:32 PM
Places I'd like to go visit (and stay, not just tour off a cruise ship):

Vienna

Iceland

Norway

Lisbon

Istanbul*

Argentina

Amsterdam

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Hawkinole on May 22, 2024, 11:05:31 PM
Places I'd like to go visit (and stay, not just tour off a cruise ship):

Vienna

Iceland

Norway

Lisbon

Istanbul*

Argentina

Amsterdam
Why the asterisk?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on May 23, 2024, 12:56:20 AM
Based on what I've seen at the resort pool, the current trend in bikini bottoms is to show a prodigious amount of cheek.

Not a complaint; just FYI, in case anyone's thinking of heading to a resort any time soon.
Walk out to my buildings’ pool deck and you’ll see the same thing. Gonna be a long summer of working/reading by the pool. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 23, 2024, 06:35:59 AM
Kauai
So where are you at?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 23, 2024, 06:43:21 AM
We have Istanbul scheduled in September.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 23, 2024, 07:32:09 AM
This is what most folks go to see in Savannah, "River Street", filled now with shops and bars etc.  I can 
(barely) recall as a kid seeing it derelict and the historic district being basically slums, you didn't want to be anywhere near here.

So, progress, of a sort.  Some of it was torn down to build a quite ugly Marriot.  It's a "see once" kind of place, not in July/August.  Places that are kind of neat for a bit turn hard touristy if they attract people, it's inherent in the US, not so much in Europe.

(https://i.imgur.com/PSbsLAa.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 23, 2024, 07:44:01 AM
Why the asterisk?
Not Constantinople....
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 23, 2024, 07:47:29 AM
I have thought it a bit weird that in English we sometimes change the names of cities, not just phonetically or out of Kanji et al, but the prounced name.

Munich isn't pronounced that way in German, nor is Moscow in Russian, Beijung used to  be Peiking.

They call it Istanbul now, and fine with me.  It once was Byzantium, and probably something before that.  Atlanta once was Terminus, and then Marthasville.

I'm looking forward to visiting it with our neighbor (who is from Ankara but knows the city well).
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 23, 2024, 07:52:07 AM
So if you owned a National Park Pass, and this was your range, what would you do?

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Everyone loves Zion and Bryce.
Grand Canyon North Rim is nice/far less busy than the South Rim.
Canyon De Chelly (Shay) would be brief.
Chaco Culture brief as well, but that hiking is all on flat land. Canyon De Chelly is straight up and down (switchbacks).
Mesa Verde is very spread out, but with many cliff dwellings that you can go to.  They have oversized, wooden ladders to help you up and down.
Everyone likes Arches.
Vermillion Cliffs.....are accurately labeled, lol.  There's a rope ferry near there, too.  But not a lot there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 23, 2024, 07:57:36 AM
I saw some of those when traveling, fortunately on females, not males, and young females who were not obese.  There is a lady in our bldg who sunbathes by the pool which is visible from the elevator lounge who wears a thong thingee, and she's not all that attractive.

I guess it doesn't  take many yards of fabric these days to cover the necessaries just "barely"....

This reminds me of my drive home from work.
I pass by a high school as it lets out.  Tons of students are walking along the road or at a bus stop.  
I feel bad for today's HS boys.
We all know how high school girls like to dress and push the envelope.  That's fine, it's always been the case, and it is what it is.
But when I was in HS, only the fit girls would do it.  Today?  
Pfffft. 
Every shape and size dress inappropriately now.  I guess it's "progress," but it's not doing those boys' eyes any favors.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on May 23, 2024, 08:25:55 AM
Places I would not travel to:

Outside of the obvious (China, Russia, North Korea, Iran) of course.

Africa
Eastern Europe
Much of the Carribean
Most of South America
Most of Central America
Most of Mexico
The Middle East (including Israel)
Some of SE Asia
Papua New Guinea (cannibals)

Probably some more I'm leaving out.

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Post by: Cincydawg on May 23, 2024, 08:34:34 AM
We hope to visit South Africa at some point, with our friend.  I'm not really interested any more in the Caribbean.  I would avoid Israel now for sure, I thought it was fine when we were there last year.  I guess Istanbul is in eastern Europe.  I'd go to Poland, not really high on my list.

We have Taiwan on our itinerary, obviously that could change, hopefully not, and Hong Kong.  India sounds interesting, we will only touch it for three days though.  I'd go to Nepal/Tibet.

Our crazy Turk friend goes to crazy places in Africa, he's in Algeria at the moment.  But he goes to Zambia/Congo/Guyana/Ethiopia, etc.  He's says they are "OK" mostly.

He traveled the "Solk Road" a couple years back starting in eastern China ending in Pakistan.  I'd avoid the latter, and probably the former.


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Post by: FearlessF on May 23, 2024, 10:03:38 AM
you fellas should visit Broken Bow, NE for some fresh oysters

the boys can shuck 'em



(https://i.imgur.com/NQ2BUov.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 23, 2024, 10:06:16 AM
you fellas should visit Broken Bow, NE for some fresh oysters

the boys can shuck 'em



(https://i.imgur.com/NQ2BUov.jpeg)
I'm not going to NE for fresh oysters. I'll be getting some tomorrow from the farmer's market.
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Post by: FearlessF on May 23, 2024, 10:16:39 AM
won't have the scenery.

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Post by: Riffraft on May 23, 2024, 10:25:51 AM
Back in the US. Heading to olgonquit to spend memorial weekend at the beach with family and friends then finally back home. 30 days has gone both fast and slow.
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 23, 2024, 10:27:02 AM
Some more stories would be appreciated.
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Post by: Riffraft on May 23, 2024, 10:35:08 AM
Some more stories would be appreciated.
When i finally get to a computer rather than on my phone. I cant type on these things.
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Post by: FearlessF on May 23, 2024, 10:35:24 AM
with pics
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 23, 2024, 01:37:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pJnI0Jz.png)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 23, 2024, 01:55:40 PM
So where are you at?
Sheraton, Poipu. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on May 23, 2024, 02:57:20 PM
Nice swimming down there. If you have a car, drive up to Hanalei. Stop at Tahiti Niu. Tell them I sent ya.

Some nice places in Kapaa too.
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 23, 2024, 04:27:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Dku0B5d.png)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 23, 2024, 06:00:14 PM
[img width=260.182 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/Dku0B5d.png[/img]

The Mexican seafood place by us has the same stigma.

They named it:

Xclusive
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Post by: FearlessF on May 23, 2024, 06:08:04 PM
bummer, dude
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 23, 2024, 07:54:56 PM
Cessna 172 tour of the island yesterday. Guess which one I am?
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Post by: 847badgerfan on May 24, 2024, 08:29:32 AM
Cessna 172 tour of the island yesterday. Guess which one I am?

Not the pilot.
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 24, 2024, 08:34:54 AM
The pilot generally sits on the left, and I think our famous poster is on the large side, ergo ...

A 172 is a pretty good way to tour a place, helos tend to be a LOT more $$$$$.
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 24, 2024, 09:09:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ye368FC.png)
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Post by: utee94 on May 24, 2024, 09:10:42 AM
Instagram "look at me" camping.  
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Post by: FearlessF on May 24, 2024, 09:43:26 AM
foolish
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 24, 2024, 12:51:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UKT6KmB.png)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 25, 2024, 02:47:24 AM
Nice swimming down there. If you have a car, drive up to Hanalei. Stop at Tahiti Niu. Tell them I sent ya.

Some nice places in Kapaa too.
I asked. They had no recollection of anyone named @847badgerfan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5)


The pilot generally sits on the left, and I think our famous poster is on the large side, ergo ...

A 172 is a pretty good way to tour a place, helos tend to be a LOT more $$$$$.

Yep. I'm too "fat" for a helo.

But my wife snapped that pic, and I thought me in a Cessna was funny in a Chris Farley Tommy Boy "fat man in a little coat" sort of way.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on May 25, 2024, 11:51:58 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ye368FC.png)
Wonder if a woke sleep walker can sue,like if the obvious happens?
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Post by: FearlessF on May 26, 2024, 08:38:45 PM
ATLANTA (AP) — A record was broken ahead of the Memorial Day weekend for the number of airline travelers screened at U.S. airports, the Transportation Security Administration said Saturday.

More than 2.9 million travelers were screened at U.S. airports on Friday, surpassing a previous record set last year on the Sunday after Thanksgiving, according to TSA.

“Officers have set a new record for most travelers screened in a single day!” the TSA tweeted. “We recommend arriving early.”

The third busiest day on record was set on Thursday when just under 2.9 million travelers were screened at U.S. airports.


In Atlanta, the world’s busiest airport had its busiest day ever. Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport broke a traffic record on Thursday when 111,000 passengers, airlines crew and airport employees were screened at security checkpoints. The second busiest day followed on Friday when 109,960 people were screened, according to the TSA.

With 104.6 million passengers, the Atlanta airport was the busiest in the world last year, according to Airports Council International.

U.S. airlines expect to carry a record number of passengers this summer. Their trade group estimates that 271 million travelers will fly between June 1 and August 31, breaking the record of 255 million set last summer.

AAA predicted this will be the busiest start-of-summer weekend in nearly 20 years, with 43.8 million people expected to roam at least 50 miles from home between Thursday and Monday — 38 million of them taking vehicles.
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 30, 2024, 02:28:58 PM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2024, 07:05:59 AM
We're off to SD early tomorrow morning.  Staying in Carlsbad, going for a graduation, I''m not entirely thrilled about it, but whatever.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2024, 08:17:50 AM
Somehow, I started getting FB feeds about folks hiking the Appalachian Trail.  It seems like a thing to do if you want to mention it in every future conversation, maybe, or if you just like to hike.  It has crossed my mind, briefly, but when I was young of course I had no time.  I watched part of some movie about two guys doing it, the movie got boring to me, anyway, it seems they don't stay on the trail all the time.  They will go into nearby towns for dinner and a motel, which I had not originally thought one would do.

I had envisioned doing it on one's own, tent camping, etc.  Then I learned you need a support car, in effect, to bring you food and water, duh.  Then I see folks off the trail basically acting like tourists on a walk.  I get why they do that.  It makes it a lot more manageable, though often a motel will not be anywhere near where the AT actually goes, as it delves into some pretty distant regions, like the Smokies.  

Maybe somebody here has done it, or part, or looked into it in more detail.  The most I might do is one segment maybe.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on May 31, 2024, 08:27:25 AM
I've been getting google stories and FB stuff as well.

I have NOT done it, or part, or looked into it in more detail.  The most I might do is read about it here, maybe.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2024, 08:38:09 AM
Yeah, I kinda enjoy the stories of through hikers a bit, and photos of them starting a bit north of here.  We go to that State Park fairly often, but the actual trail starts some 8 miles from the park where one can drive, so you hike 8 miles to get to the trail there.

There are closer jump off points apparently.

Start of Appalachian Trail in North Georgia | Georgia Cabins For You (georgiacfy.com) (https://georgiacfy.com/appalachian-trail-north-georgia/)

There now are hostel type places that cater to through hikers.

We enjoy some hikes in the mountains, but more of the 3-4-5 mile variety of course.  My wife continues to have some leg issues.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 31, 2024, 09:16:52 AM
There's a good movie/documentary somewhere on the streaming services called "Mile, Mile & a Half" about through-hiking the John Muir Trail. 

I definitely want to do it someday. It's about a 3 week hike, and like what CD mentions, usually there are at least two places where you have to set up mail drops for more supplies, as that's too much to carry at once. But unlike what CD talks about, it's basically tent camping the entire time. I think there are one or two spots where you might be able to get off trail for a real restaurant and a cabin rather than a tent, but the rest of it you're camping. 

My son wants me to do this hike (https://modernhiker.com/hike/hike-santiago-peak-via-holy-jim-trail/) with him. 15 miles, with 4000 feet of elevation gained. That'll be a tough one, but I think with all my training over the last two years I can manage to knock that one out much more than I could have previously. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2024, 09:37:16 AM
The Muir Trail would probably be more interesting to me.  It's about a tenth the length of the AT which is more reasonable, but I suspect it's much tougher per mile in many cases.  I don't think I could manage it today (without more training than I'd be willing to do).

How long does it take to hike the John Muir Trail?
[color=var(--bbQxAb)]Most people take about three weeks to complete the JMT, with many averaging around 10-12 miles a day. That said, very fit and experienced hikers may cover 15-17 miles a day. Hiking in the Sierras is no joke, so we recommend overestimating your time on the trail.[/font][/size][/color]


The AT is said to take 5-7 months, so you start in early spring in GA and hope to make it to Maine before cold weather.
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2024, 09:44:00 AM
I don't know how much weight a fit hiker would consider carrying on either of these trails, probably less on the JMT.  Maybe a water purification filter device would be a help.  You'd need a lot of water.  Dehydrated food, OK, I've eaten that on hiking/camping trips, it works.  It's still weight.  Then your frame with sleeping bag I presume, probably a hiking tent, bear spray for both, phone, good boots, socks, a lot of socks, maybe a change of underwear, it adds up.

I once read AT hiker trim the margins off their maps to save a few grams.

Gloves, rain gear for sure in the AT, a cooking kit with a pan and cup etc.  

Maybe you hike three -four days between resupply?
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Post by: FearlessF on May 31, 2024, 09:45:44 AM
sounds like fun
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2024, 09:54:06 AM
It's a bit funny in a way, today many of us have the means to stay at a decent clean motel and drive from A to B, but those same folks will take on a hiking challenge and rough it for a while.  I understand it myself, I think.  At my age, my notion is to stay in a decent motel and hike a few miles and go back to a decent motel.

And dine out.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 31, 2024, 09:56:19 AM
Yeah, I don't now much about the AT, but I know that the JMT is pretty much all spent at fairly high elevation and you're hitting 8 mountain passes. So it's going to be a LOT of elevation gain over the course of the 200+ miles. 

Back when I was hiking more frequently, anything more than about 3K of elevation gain in a hike was where I'd start to hit my fatigue point and it got really difficult. I did this hike (https://hikingguy.com/hiking-trails/hiking-san-diego/el-cajon-mountain-trail-guide/) with buddies in early 2016 and it's a killer both because of the amount of elevation gain, but the amount you gain on the way back. Towards the end I was barely making it up hills without stopping, and the only things that kept me going were A) I'm too big for them to carry me and B) we were going to an awesome brewery I'd never visited afterwards. 

I think my conditioning is much better now. 

Not that I think you'll have much chance to do any hiking in San Diego, but if you wanted to get out for a fun one, there's always Potato Chip Rock (https://hikingguy.com/hiking-trails/hiking-san-diego/potato-chip-rock-hike-san-diego/). You can get a good picture. My brother came to visit in 2016 with his son, and I took my oldest (then 7 yo), and we hiked it...

(https://i.imgur.com/8WFCv0h.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2024, 09:59:05 AM
My one rough hike was in the Smokies, 4200 foot elevation change, but the real problem is I chose a route that was shorter but used by horses.  The horses broke up the rocks so I'd take a step up and slide back a bit, on and on for seven miles.  We took the other trail coming down and it was soft packed earth, much easier.

Mt. Leconte trail by Rainbow Falls, if you ever do it, take the other trail, or the Alum Cave Bluff trail.

We stayed in a shelter on top because of bears.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 31, 2024, 10:02:11 AM
I don't know how much weight a fit hiker would consider carrying on either of these trails, probably less on the JMT.  Maybe a water purification filter device would be a help.  You'd need a lot of water.  Dehydrated food, OK, I've eaten that on hiking/camping trips, it works.  It's still weight.  Then your frame with sleeping bag I presume, probably a hiking tent, bear spray for both, phone, good boots, socks, a lot of socks, maybe a change of underwear, it adds up.

I once read AT hiker trim the margins off their maps to save a few grams.

Gloves, rain gear for sure in the AT, a cooking kit with a pan and cup etc. 

Maybe you hike three -four days between resupply?
Yeah, I've heard a typical pack is 50-60 lbs after each resupply. I think it's usually 5-7 days per resupply. Most use water purification systems though as I don't think it's feasible to carry that much water. 

I figure if I ever do it, my size will be a double edged sword... Being so big, I can carry a lot more than many smaller people. But being so big, I'm going to need WAY more in the way of calories to get through it than smaller people, so I'll be forced to carry that much more. 


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2024, 10:08:08 AM
My son told me his standard combat load in Iraq was around 90 pounds.  About 30 of that was the rifle and ammo, he carried the M249.  About 35 of that was body armor.

I don't know how it's humanly possible.

I was checking out the AT through Georgia, it crosses some highways where one could resupply every few days.  The part through the Smokies is probably several days with one resupply point.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 31, 2024, 10:10:12 AM
My son told me his standard combat load in Iraq was around 90 pounds.  About 30 of that was the rifle and ammo, he carried the M249.  About 35 of that was body armor.

I don't know how it's humanly possible.

I was checking out the AT through Georgia, it crosses some highways where one could resupply every few days.  The part through the Smokies is probably several days with one resupply point.


Same here. That boy was in great shape.
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Post by: DunkingDan on June 01, 2024, 09:18:51 AM
Yeah, I've heard a typical pack is 50-60 lbs after each resupply. I think it's usually 5-7 days per resupply. Most use water purification systems though as I don't think it's feasible to carry that much water.

I figure if I ever do it, my size will be a double edged sword... Being so big, I can carry a lot more than many smaller people. But being so big, I'm going to need WAY more in the way of calories to get through it than smaller people, so I'll be forced to carry that much more.
Read some.of the books thru hikers have written. There is also a lot of lists on what you need, including food with calorie information.
I used to hike a lot and getting the right shoes is critical. Goid walking sticks for stability is very helpful.
Over packing is a issue as well.
One thing that helps on an endeavor like this is training for the hike, shakedown hikes to get familiar with the gear. Etc.
I wish you luck and happy hiking if you do hit the trail.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: DunkingDan on June 01, 2024, 09:27:50 AM
My one rough hike was in the Smokies, 4200 foot elevation change, but the real problem is I chose a route that was shorter but used by horses.  The horses broke up the rocks so I'd take a step up and slide back a bit, on and on for seven miles.  We took the other trail coming down and it was soft packed earth, much easier.

Mt. Leconte trail by Rainbow Falls, if you ever do it, take the other trail, or the Alum Cave Bluff trail.

We stayed in a shelter on top because of bears.
Hike starting at the rainbow falls trailhead, take the route to grotto falls, to Trillum gap and across to LeConte. Come down by rainbow falls back to the starting point. 
 There use to be a home foundation downstream of the falls. We met the father and son who lived there years ago there. They told us what it was like then, about carrying sugar up from G'burg using the light of the moon to guide them.
The Alum Cave trail is very crowded any more. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 01, 2024, 12:26:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/EwU1Ysz.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 01, 2024, 12:36:11 PM
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 01, 2024, 06:33:14 PM
What's the worst vacation that you've ever intentionally taken? 
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 01, 2024, 07:25:30 PM
The nickel at Sing Sing.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 02, 2024, 09:56:07 AM
What's the worst vacation that you've ever intentionally taken?
Probably Hawaii. It rained 13 out of 14 days. Not much fun.
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Post by: FearlessF on June 02, 2024, 09:58:33 AM
What's the worst vacation that you've ever intentionally taken?
disney world in Orlando with the Ex and kids
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 02, 2024, 10:21:10 AM
@847badgerfan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5)  as the concert was the kid's early birthday, we let him choose dinner, and he chose Haus Murphy's. It was delicious. Thanks! 

@OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) if you haven't been there, check it out. 

As for concert, Luke Combs puts on a hell of a show. I'd recommend him. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 02, 2024, 10:22:08 AM
It is chilly out here.  
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Post by: FearlessF on June 02, 2024, 10:26:06 AM
it's a dry chilly
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Post by: FearlessF on June 02, 2024, 10:40:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cVdIKOH.png)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 02, 2024, 11:05:55 AM
@847badgerfan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5)  as the concert was the kid's early birthday, we let him choose dinner, and he chose Haus Murphy's. It was delicious. Thanks!

@OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) if you haven't been there, check it out.

As for concert, Luke Combs puts on a hell of a show. I'd recommend him.
Cool. What did you all eat?
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 02, 2024, 11:32:51 AM


What's the skinny on the Channel Islands? 

Worth the hassle? 


(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/6a/65/61/6a656196ddfe3f47667f8600e39d2209.jpg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 02, 2024, 07:39:54 PM
Cool. What did you all eat?
We started with the pretzel, of course. 

I got the beef rouladen. My son got the paprika schnitzel, and my wife got the weinerschnitzel. 

All were delicious, but I think my wife's would have been well served to have some sort of sauce or something on it. 
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Post by: utee94 on June 05, 2024, 12:48:06 PM
We started with the pretzel, of course.

I got the beef rouladen. My son got the paprika schnitzel, and my wife got the weinerschnitzel.

All were delicious, but I think my wife's would have been well served to have some sort of sauce or something on it.
Well yeah.  Wienerschnitzel is just a fancy word for chicken fried steak.  Clearly you needed some cream gravy on that sucker.

(https://i.imgur.com/QQPxesC.jpeg)


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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 05, 2024, 12:54:50 PM
There is a pretty good place in town here. I've had the Wiener Schnitzel and had them add the mushroom gravy to it.

(https://i.imgur.com/lbw0x2K.png)
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Post by: FearlessF on June 05, 2024, 05:00:28 PM
looks good, probably is good
and a great option for the locals

if I'm visiting, I'm having the fresh seafood
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 06, 2024, 07:14:29 AM
looks good, probably is good
and a great option for the locals

if I'm visiting, I'm having the fresh seafood
You'd think that would be easy to find here. I know where to go now.
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 06, 2024, 12:24:39 PM
Back home today. A meh trip. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 06, 2024, 12:28:05 PM
If I recall correctly, you were not excited to go out there in the first place.

Not impressed?
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 06, 2024, 01:02:46 PM
I’ve been before, this was for a HS graduation.  The weather was meh, the itinerary was meh, I didn’t sleep well, the rental car was very meh.  We didn’t do anything of any note, a couple decent meals out.

At the airport now awaiting flight.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 06, 2024, 01:25:13 PM
I’ve been before, this was for a HS graduation.  The weather was meh, the itinerary was meh, I didn’t sleep well, the rental car was very meh.  We didn’t do anything of any note, a couple decent meals out.

At the airport now awaiting flight.
I hear you. Traveling when the entire thing is for a family-related event often means that you're bound to whatever they want to do the whole time. Kinda makes spending a ton of money, flying clear across the country, and then doing crap you don't really care about "to support family" seems like a big waste. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 06, 2024, 01:38:34 PM
That happened to us in LA last year, for a wedding we did not want to attend. Family forced it on us. I resent it and so does my wife. It was her sister doing the forcing. 
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Post by: utee94 on June 06, 2024, 02:46:32 PM
When most of my contemporaries and I were getting married, the "Destination Wedding" was first starting to catch on as a thing.  One of my friends asked me to be in his wedding which I gladly accepted, and then later told me his fiancee was leaning heavily toward a destination wedding.  I told him to have a great time and that I'd send him a great wedding present, but wouldn't be attending the wedding after all.  He was pretty peeved with me but when he approached everyone else in our group with the same news, they all responded in the same way,  Ultimately he had to tell his bride that if they did a destination wedding, he wouldn't have any groomsmen.

I'm just not going to let someone else determine where and how I spend my valuable and limited vacation time, and resources.  And I find it presumptuous and offensive that someone would think such an imposition was okay.  
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Post by: FearlessF on June 06, 2024, 02:47:37 PM
except your wife ;)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 06, 2024, 02:48:39 PM
except your wife ;)
Well, obviously!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 06, 2024, 02:49:23 PM
When most of my contemporaries and I were getting married, the "Destination Wedding" was first starting to catch on as a thing.  One of my friends asked me to be in his wedding which I gladly accepted, and then later told me his fiancee was leaning heavily toward a destination wedding.  I told him to have a great time and that I'd send him a great wedding present, but wouldn't be attending the wedding after all.  He was pretty peeved with me but when he approached everyone else in our group with the same news, they all responded in the same way,  Ultimately he had to tell his bride that if they did a destination wedding, he wouldn't have any groomsmen.

Ultimately I'm just not going to let someone else determine where and how I spend my valuable and limited vacation time, and resources.
Exactly. YOUR destination might not MY destination in any way, shape or form. I really kinda hate this trend.

We declined one in the Dominican last December. We have no desire to go there, for any reason.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on June 06, 2024, 02:56:39 PM


I'm just not going to let someone else determine where and how I spend my valuable and limited vacation time, and resources.  And I find it presumptuous and offensive that someone would think such an imposition was okay. 
Isn’t that any wedding? Like, I don’t live in Florida. But if a friend wants to get married there, I will have to spend resources to be there.

That said, a couple should be respectful to a degree that makes sense. And if they’re holding it in like Italy, just be prepped for no shows. (A relative had a friend who decided to go with a “camping wedding.” It sounds like it went better than I have any right to, although one set of grandparents made it out there for the rehearsal, decided he didn’t want to make the drive again and left)

Edit: I also thought an exotic destination wedding was code for “lots of you who were invited shouldn’t come.” Some people who plan them don’t seem to know that. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 06, 2024, 03:02:37 PM
Isn’t that any wedding? Like, I don’t live in Florida. But if a friend wants to get married there, I will have to spend resources to be there. Unless the wedding is explicitly in town.

That said, a couple should be respectful to a degree that makes sense. And if they’re holding it in like Italy, just be prepped for no shows. (A relative had a friend who decided to go with a “camping wedding.” It sounds like it went better than I have any right to, although one set of grandparents made it out there for the rehearsal, decided he didn’t want to make the drive again and left)
Back in 2015 we went to a destination wedding because it was in Florida, and we knew we might want to live here someday. 

We spent 12 days between Fort Myers and Clearwater and fell in love with Punta Gorda, and later, BSM. Here we are.

2 years ago, my business partner's son had a destination wedding in St. Pete Beach. We went to it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 06, 2024, 03:07:43 PM
Edit: I also thought an exotic destination wedding was code for “lots of you who were invited shouldn’t come.” Some people who plan them don’t seem to know that.
I explained this to my daughter.
Too many people still showed up!
I guess the destination in Colorado was only 10 hours from Sioux City and 8 hours from Lincoln
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 06, 2024, 03:08:53 PM
Stuck on ground at SAN.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 06, 2024, 03:09:39 PM
hah, my buddy's daughter got married in Italy

He didn't want to go.

I told him, "Sorry dude, yer the father of the bride.  Get yer ass over there and try to have a good time"

He went and had a fabulous time.  Ended up spending 10 days there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on June 06, 2024, 03:13:46 PM
Back in 2015 we went to a destination wedding because it was in Florida, and we knew we might want to live here someday.

We spent 12 days between Fort Myers and Clearwater and fell in love with Punta Gorda, and later, BSM. Here we are.

2 years ago, my business partner's son had a destination wedding in St. Pete Beach. We went to it.
This is leading to an interesting question of how one defines a “Destination“ wedding. My general read is that it’s somewhere an inconvenient distance from any central point for the couple or families.

(The second one you describe feels more quasi-local for you, but that’s another matter)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 06, 2024, 03:28:37 PM
Yeah, it was only 2 hours, but we still had to get a hotel and I had to drive over that damn bridge.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 06, 2024, 03:49:35 PM
This is leading to an interesting question of how one defines a “Destination“ wedding. My general read is that it’s somewhere an inconvenient distance from any central point for the couple or families.

(The second one you describe feels more quasi-local for you, but that’s another matter)
Sure.  If I'm being asked to travel to the couple's hometown because it's convenient for the family of the bride and/or groom, that's one thing.

If I'm being asked to travel because it's inconvenient for everyone and the happy couple is just choosing my vacation destination for me, that's gonna be a negatory.

I also get it that a destination wedding is likely going to end up much cheaper for the bride and groom (or whichever family is paying), than it would be to throw a traditional wedding plus a honeymoon.  That's fine.  Just don't expect everyone to be there. 

Anyway, in the case I described above, both bride and groom were from Austin, they currently lived in Austin, both of their families lived in Austin, and the bride just wanted something different.  Her parents didn't want to do the destination wedding either, but weren't going to tell her that.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on June 06, 2024, 03:56:35 PM
Sure.  If I'm being asked to travel to the couple's hometown because it's convenient for the family of the bride and/or groom, that's one thing.

If I'm being asked to travel because it's inconvenient for everyone and the happy couple is just choosing my vacation destination for me, that's gonna be a negatory.

I also get it that a destination wedding is likely going to end up much cheaper for the bride and groom (or whichever family is paying), than it would be to throw a traditional wedding plus a honeymoon.  That's fine.  Just don't expect everyone to be there. 

Anyway, in the case I described above, both bride and groom were from Austin, they currently lived in Austin, both of their families lived in Austin, and the bride just wanted something different.  Her parents didn't want to do the destination wedding either, but weren't going to tell her that.


I’m excited to find out the destination was beautiful El Paso.

(yeah, that feels like one where folks gotta calm on down. Or accept much lower attendance)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on June 06, 2024, 04:03:30 PM
This is leading me down memory lane, but I’m trying to think of any weddings I went to that were in a notable locale. Most were: 

Where the couple lived (or a suburb)
Where one member of the couple grew up 
Where one family lived
A big/logical city in a state where the couple grew up (I think they were from Missouri, got married in STL)
Town they went to college in (and I was crashing that wedding)

There was one that was on the Michigan lake coast for people from Chi, but that was maybe a 100 mile drive. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 06, 2024, 04:16:03 PM
One of my Austin friends got married in San Antonio.  Quite exotic!

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 06, 2024, 04:24:59 PM
Sure.  If I'm being asked to travel to the couple's hometown because it's convenient for the family of the bride and/or groom, that's one thing.
Yeah, when you grew up in Chicago, went to Purdue, then moved to California, most of the people you know are having a "destination wedding", at least for you. I got to see beautiful Noblesville, IN a few times! :57:

I do find that destination weddings are a lot less of a problem for later in life weddings (whether it's a couple who just didn't get married young, or people on their second attempt). I think by that point you're inviting people who have gotten to a place where they have some money, you're not inviting 200 people because you "have to" include "everyone", so the people you're inviting are the people who would REALLY want to be there no matter where the wedding is. 

That was what my buddy did for his (2nd) marriage at age 38. He was from Indy, lived in SoCal, and his to-be-wife was from SoCal. He decided to make his wedding [nearly] equally inconvenient for everyone, but had it at the Buffalo Trace distillery in Kentucky. That was a blast! 

I didn't do any of that. My wife and I had the legal ceremony (same friend I just mentioned officiated it) at our wine bar with about 10 people, and then we went to Italy and eloped, having the actual ceremony be just the two of us, the officiant, and a photographer, in Florence. We ended up throwing a small reception when we got back, but that was just so that we had a way to include my kids. If neither of us had any kids, we'd not have done that. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 06, 2024, 04:33:43 PM
Still stuck on the ground.  11:15 am scheduled departure.  Now 1:34 pm no word.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 06, 2024, 04:39:24 PM
I hate flying and airports
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 06, 2024, 04:42:16 PM
No weather issues in SAN or ATL, or anywhere really.

Someone is playing games.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 06, 2024, 04:44:22 PM
Still stuck on the ground.  11:15 am scheduled departure.  Now 1:34 pm no word. 
Brutal. I can tolerate the occasional delay, but delayed while stuck on the tarmac is a different story. At least let me get delayed in the airport bar. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 06, 2024, 05:02:39 PM
Pushing back. Engine start.  Number 43 for TO. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 09:11:47 AM
We've traveled to San Diego four times now, spending a few days there with rental car.  My step daughter lives in a small 1950s hous off Balboa west of the 805 a bit.  The backyard has potential which is good.  

The maritime layer, to me, is depressing.  It can linger all day.  When the sky does clear up, the place seems a lot more attractive to me.  Traffic generally is not that bad.  There is a light rail line, I never tried it.  The airport is nice though the last two time we were flying out we have multi-hour delays.

We stay up in Carlsbad for various reasons.  I found two pretty good restaurants nearby, one was quite expensive, $300 for two though I had $200 in gift cards for it, Vigiluchis.  The other one we had lunch, it was quite decent, got expensive, $200 for 3 of us.

King’s Fish House | Seafood | Carlsbad California (kingsfishhouse.com) (https://www.kingsfishhouse.com/carlsbad)

This got pricey because my unemployed step daughter felt she could order any whim she had, and did.  The reason it annoyed me a bit is she'd order something and barely eat it, and order something else.

There aren't many trees, it isn't green, a lot of houses seem built on the large sand dunes.  Downtown looks pretty nice.  One often sees one or two fleet carriers docked across the bay which amuses me as each contains two nuclear reactors.

My wife noted she wouldn't like to live there, which I found interesting.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2024, 09:14:41 AM
We've traveled to San Diego four times now, spending a few days there with rental car.  My step daughter lives in a small 1950s hous off Balboa west of the 805 a bit.  The backyard has potential which is good. 

The maritime layer, to me, is depressing.  It can linger all day.  When the sky does clear up, the place seems a lot more attractive to me.  Traffic generally is not that bad.  There is a light rail line, I never tried it.  The airport is nice though the last two time we were flying out we have multi-hour delays.

We stay up in Carlsbad for various reasons.  I found two pretty good restaurants nearby, one was quite expensive, $300 for two though I had $200 in gift cards for it, Vigiluchis.  The other one we had lunch, it was quite decent, got expensive, $200 for 3 of us.

King’s Fish House | Seafood | Carlsbad California (kingsfishhouse.com) (https://www.kingsfishhouse.com/carlsbad)

This got pricey because my unemployed step daughter felt she could order any whim she had, and did.  The reason it annoyed me a bit is she'd order something and barely eat it, and order something else.

There aren't many trees, it isn't green, a lot of houses seem built on the large sand dunes.  Downtown looks pretty nice.  One often sees one or two fleet carriers docked across the bay which amuses me as each contains two nuclear reactors.

My wife noted she wouldn't like to live there, which I found interesting.
This I would not allow.

I'm kinda tough on "kids" so honestly, I wouldn't even offer to take her out until she got her happy ass a job.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 09:19:56 AM
Our delay last time was because there was a brief delay and the flight crew was over time, and they had to fly two pilots in from SD.  We were in the Delta lounge, it was getting late (redeye), and they opened the lounge up for any drink, Champagne etc., which meant there were quite a few jolly passengers when we finally left around 1PM.  I recall getting into ATL and the place was deserted like I'd never seen before.  

This time we couldn't take off because the winds had shifted and our pilot said he needed to take off to the west into the wind because the plane was fully loaded.  He told me it would be fine unless he lost an engine on takeoff.  For some reason, the tower would not reverse the landing direction, so everything backed up.  We sat and waited.  They reopened the door and I got off to buy some water and a sandwich ($$$) and use the head.  A fair number of folks deplaned permanently even after being told their luggage was going to ATL no matter what they did, and every flight out later was also full.

Four hours later, they reversed the pattern, finally, but not there were a ton of planes in out condition waiting for that, so we waited some more.  We finally got in five hours late to ATL.  I had planned on taking MARTA home, but my wife said non, so we took a cab, both quite tired.  We should have returned to the Delta lounge during the delay, but nobody knew how long it might last.

We had a smooth flight, the turbulence dies down at night usually.  Weather here had cleared off.  I got some neat photos.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 09:21:31 AM
This I would not allow.

I'm kinda tough on "kids" so honestly, I wouldn't even offer to take her out until she got her happy ass a job.
My wife paid the tab, it was her dealings, I stayed quiet, which I think we the proper thing to do.

My step daughter has some "issues" I think, one of which is dealing with reality.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 09:23:01 AM


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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 07, 2024, 09:46:34 AM
we ALL have issues with reality

it's how we deal with them

I like beer
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 10:01:13 AM
True enough.  I deal with them by remaining calm and reminding myself in the overall scheme of things, it doesn't matter much at all, if any, with rare exceptions.

I find "we" often get incensed over events that in reality are near nothings.  Someone cut us off in traffic?  OK, whatever.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 07, 2024, 10:07:36 AM
yup, life's too short to sweat the small stuff

F it, let's go bowlin, Dude
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 10:08:27 AM
Well, that's like your opinion, man.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 07, 2024, 10:13:55 AM
We stay up in Carlsbad for various reasons.  I found two pretty good restaurants nearby, one was quite expensive, $300 for two though I had $200 in gift cards for it, Vigiluchis.  The other one we had lunch, it was quite decent, got expensive, $200 for 3 of us.


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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 10:46:59 AM
A positive comment about "Clear":

It works quite well.

When we departed ATL, there was the usual long line in TSA Precheck (forget about non precheck).  We entered the CLEAR lane and were through in about a minute.

San Diego was backed up in precheck (not as much, but probably a 10 minutes wait), we were through in a minute.  

My wife got the Global Entry thing, I didn't, we've yet to try it, but usually I clear immigration fairly quickly anyway and then wait on luggage after.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 07, 2024, 10:49:33 AM
We have precheck. I don't think I've ever waited more than 5 minutes. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 10:52:20 AM
Yeah, you don't live in ATL either.  The precheck line here can be 40 minutes and longer.  I've seen it spill out from the zig zag area, there was a line to get in line.*

Anyway, Clear works well, but is probably unneeded if you fly rarely and fly out of less congested airports.

*To be fair, when that happened, Clear took 20 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 07, 2024, 10:55:49 AM
Ahh yeah, I haven't flown into / out of / through Atlanta in a LONG time... I think the only way I'd end up going to ATL is if I was visiting Georgia, because I've mostly flown American or Southwest since 2007 and that routes me through DFW or ORD if I'm heading to the east coast. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 11:01:33 AM
We had an 8:15 AM flight out to San Diego this week, so we showed up at ATL around 6:30 AM, the place was jammed.  Air travel is way up versus 2019 in my experience.

I appreciated getting through with Clear versus standing in line, picking up bags, moving a few feet, repeat.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2024, 01:08:31 PM
Never had a problem in or out of SAN.

Pre-check generally getting out of here than it does ORD. Staffing is key.

RSW is modernizing though. Soon it will be a breeze.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2024, 01:10:43 PM
My wife paid the tab, it was her dealings, I stayed quiet, which I think we the proper thing to do.

My step daughter has some "issues" I think, one of which is dealing with reality.
She's lucky I'm not her stepdad and you are.

I'd be on her like white on rice, like I was with my stepsons. They now appreciate that. They didn't then.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 07, 2024, 01:11:12 PM
We have precheck. I don't think I've ever waited more than 5 minutes.
In Austin the precheck line is always long.  Sometimes longer than the normal line.  Yet another reason to stay away.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 01:18:30 PM
She's lucky I'm not her stepdad and you are.

I'd be on her like white on rice, like I was with my stepsons. They now appreciate that. They didn't then.
For me, it's not remotely worth it, and anything I might say would not be "helpful", at all.  This young lady, as I said, has "issues" beyond anything I can do to help.

She lives in France, so there is that.  She commented to someone else (in my hearing) about how she's unemployed but that's OK in France because in the US they just let you die, but in France, they keep paying you to stay on the dole.  OK, then.

I don't have to "deal with her" often at all, it's just best on those rare occasions to remain quiet.  It's a bit annoying, and my wife knows that.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2024, 01:19:44 PM
Maybe slap her around a little or something. Or use your bat.

:57:
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 01:21:15 PM
The other thing  that miffed me a bit is this gal flew from France to LA where she apparently stayed with friends several days, and then came to SD by car with her brother, fine, they all stayed at our resort on my nickel, OK fine.  Her brother is a fine fellow indeed and always comments how thankful he is that I provided the room.  She said nothing about it, free room for six nights at  a resort. 

Then I learn she's flying to Edinburg for some concert, and then I guess back to France.  I hope my wife isn't paying for all this.  I'm not going to ask.

I know were I unemployed I wouldn't be traveling the world, I'd be hustling up some job.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 07, 2024, 02:11:39 PM
The maritime layer, to me, is depressing.  It can linger all day.  
Man, I love it. Wake up to a cool overcast morning, then maybe when it clears you get 74 and sunny. Makes it perfect to have a morning round of golf without it getting too hot, and it starts getting sunny about halfway through the back 9. 

The closer you are to the coast the more it can linger of course. I don't mind when it lingers. I like the "cold". 

it's seasonal though... They named this portion of the year "May Gray" followed by "June Gloom". 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 07, 2024, 02:46:34 PM
Yeah it's depressing.  "Sunny, warm California" is such a misnomer.


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on June 07, 2024, 03:20:12 PM
Man, I love it. Wake up to a cool overcast morning, then maybe when it clears you get 74 and sunny. Makes it perfect to have a morning round of golf without it getting too hot, and it starts getting sunny about halfway through the back 9.

The closer you are to the coast the more it can linger of course. I don't mind when it lingers. I like the "cold".
I love it. Can get in an AM run, maybe walk somewhere when it’s still cool.

Granted, it’s always a change up for me. So it’s a relief compared to the heat I live with much of the year.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on June 07, 2024, 03:22:40 PM
I love precheck, just because it goes much faster than the regular line and involves less hassle. Or at least it did when I got it a few years back. 

Maybe regular flying has become a joy. I dunno. 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 03:38:38 PM
On rental cars ...

I generally use Enterprise.  They are fine.  This time Delta had "deal" with Payless.  OK, saved $180.  Got a Nissan Sentra with 74K miles and that stupid rubber band transmission.  Not a fan.  The car was "OK" overall, I guess, I never trusted it to stop when needed much.  Usually with Enterprise I get a modest upgrade or three.

On First Class ...

Not worth it obviously.  We were upgraded going out, which is "nice", breakfast was decent.  I looked at paying for the upgrade, it was $329 EACH.  Not a chance.  Coming back we were in "Comfort Plus", I dunno about the plus.  It's fine, a bit more leg room and recline.  I'm willing to pay some more for that.

On "Premiium" ... found generally on overseas flights.  It's nicer of course, but also pricey.  I upgraded us coming back from Seoul to DFW and I guess that was worth it, my wife liked it.

On Delta One ... We had this once because the flight from here to Seattle was that sort of aircraft, just came in from Rio.  I spent a lot of time playing with the gadgets.  That was our only experience with it for obvious reasons.  If a Comfort seat to say Paris is $1600, Delta One might be $7500.  Each.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2024, 03:43:38 PM
Hertz exclusively for me. American partners with Avis, National and Budget, I think. They all suck.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 07, 2024, 04:22:19 PM
Avis for me. Corporate rate (even for non-corporate travel) so I simply can't beat it trying to look elsewhere. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2024, 04:44:30 PM
Bad experience with Avis.

We get corporate with Enterprise. No thank you. 

Hertz only.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 04:49:31 PM
When I was working, we had to use National, and I had multiple bad experiences with them.  I've also seen an incredibly bad experience at Hertz in Paris, but that was in Paris, they were totally ripping off three Americans who didn't understand what was afoot.  My wife's company used Hertz.  

One can have a bad experience with any of them of course.  Enterprise has bailed me out a few times, and I've avoided any bad experiences with them, so far.  The Payless rental was "fine" in the sense nothing bad happened, they were efficient getting me the car and on return, but I wouldn't use them again because their cars are old.

My wife complained to Delta about our video screens flying out, they were glitchy.  Delta gave us both 2,000 miles, which of course is a "go away nicely" statement.  We both like Delta pretty well, which is good considering where we reside.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2024, 04:51:27 PM
Hertz' cars are all relatively new. I think the most miles I've seen in the past 4 years has been 15K? It's normally under 10K.

I like that.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 07, 2024, 04:54:18 PM
We both like Delta pretty well, which is good considering where we reside.
Yeah, I was pretty much 100% Delta when I lived there. When I moved back, the areas I had to travel for work were largely served best by American and Southwest, so that's where I gravitate towards. 

I've also always been a Hilton guy, but my wife prefers Marriott properties. After the trips to Indianapolis followed by the one to Phoenix, she's said "no more" on Hilton lol. The quality of the properties we stay at just seems to be absolutely hit and miss. This past weekend was even a Doubletree, and it looked like it hadn't been touched since 1974. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 04:54:54 PM
That's the big difference I think between Payless/Thrifty et al. and National/Hertz/Avis/Enterprise.  The latter has newer vehicles.

It makes sense of course.  Given a choice between a newer vehicle that cost $550 and a Nissan Sentra that has 74 K on the clock for $320, I might think about it, but it was for a week, so not much of a bother really.

They all do a lot better now with returns than they did 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 07, 2024, 04:56:31 PM
On hotels, I check the age of the property if I can.  A new Hampton Inn is often better than an aged Hilton.  I don't see much real difference in the major brands overall.  I'm a Hilton Diamond member so that helps with them.

We stay at IHG hotels in Europe fairly often, I have some status with them.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2024, 04:59:06 PM
Yeah, I was pretty much 100% Delta when I lived there. When I moved back, the areas I had to travel for work were largely served best by American and Southwest, so that's where I gravitate towards.

I've also always been a Hilton guy, but my wife prefers Marriott properties. After the trips to Indianapolis followed by the one to Phoenix, she's said "no more" on Hilton lol. The quality of the properties we stay at just seems to be absolutely hit and miss. This past weekend was even a Doubletree, and it looked like it hadn't been touched since 1974.
We're Hilton people, but only with newer properties (like you with Marriott, which has some shitty properties too).

Hampton or Blue is our choice generally, when we travel in the states. Hilton Garden sometimes. No Embassy or Doubletree.

No resorts.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 07, 2024, 09:09:44 PM
if there is that much consternation between hotels, rental cars and airlines and all the other stuff..........

I'd rather just go cheap on the few times I travel and cut down on travel overall and skip the BS

I just go cheap and understand there's going to be BS to deal with at that price

seems better than trying to figure out which one to pay more that isn't going to really add enough value

I guess I'm just lucky not to travel that often and have to put up with the BS
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 10, 2024, 01:51:55 PM
I just booked an 8 day trip to Sedona, in August.  My wife wanted to go somewhere.

And she wants to tour Antelope Canyon.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 10, 2024, 01:57:53 PM
8 days in Sedona? Two days is plenty... Just sayin'.

Dahl & Di Luca Ristorante Italiano | Sedona, Arizona (dahlanddiluca.com) (https://www.dahlanddiluca.com/)

Best place in town. We go, every time we visit.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 10, 2024, 02:07:09 PM
Good to know.  We're staying at a nice resort, so there is that, and we'll be driving around sight seeing a lot.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 10, 2024, 02:26:49 PM
I've been invited to a week long golf trip to Sedona in the early Spring when the courses are closed here.

Never been able to make it.

Maybe someday - never been there, they tell me it's nice
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 10, 2024, 02:29:12 PM
I don't know anything about the golfing but the scenery is beautiful.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 10, 2024, 02:37:35 PM
the golf course is a great place to experience beautiful scenery 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on June 10, 2024, 02:54:10 PM
the golf course is a great place to experience beautiful scenery
Too bad the golf is an effective way to ruin a good walk.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 10, 2024, 03:01:42 PM
I'm taking my first lesson this week.

Down here, if you don't golf, you eliminate about 95 percent of potential friends.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 10, 2024, 03:08:13 PM
Boating/skiing/surfing uses up enough of my leisure budget that I don't have any extra to throw at golf.  And I'm delighted with that outcome.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 10, 2024, 03:12:52 PM
I used to golf, it takes up too much time for me now.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 10, 2024, 03:17:51 PM
I'm taking my first lesson this week.

Down here, if you don't golf, you eliminate about 95 percent of potential friends.
my advice to older folks regarding golf...........

don't start, it's similar to cigarettes.

Very addictive and not good for you.

you'll hate it or you will have a horrible love/hate relationship
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 10, 2024, 03:19:34 PM
my advice to older folks regarding golf...........

don't start, it's similar to cigarettes.

Very addictive and not good for you.

you'll hate it or you will have a horrible love/hate relationship

I don't golf AND I hate it anyway!  

Can't think of anything more boring than listening to all the dudes telling their golf stories.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 10, 2024, 03:19:40 PM
Too bad the golf is an effective way to ruin a good walk.
(https://i.imgur.com/Ah0JmsY.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: iahawk15 on June 13, 2024, 08:23:45 PM
Sitting in ORD on the way back from Banff/Jasper. If mountains are your thing, it's a must-do trip.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2024, 08:29:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/iNTkqvO.png)

I drove out of our way to cross this a couple years back.  I like seeing such aedifices.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2024, 08:33:56 AM
I've gone out of my way to avoid that thing..
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2024, 08:41:30 AM
Yup.  I don't have any issue driving over tall or long bridges, I rather seek them out if there is a chance to see them.  I've driven over most of our larger suspension bridges, I'm sure I missed a few.  The one* in Savannah is interesting because of the attempt to raise it a few inches by shortening the cables, and then probably to replace the thing.  

It's also weird because it's four lanes and then ends into a two land highway on the north end.  

(https://i.imgur.com/MLaGv6J.png)

*It's a cable stayed bridge, not suspension, in design.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2024, 08:48:32 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/UCbXDcN.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/vx9qzSN.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 15, 2024, 10:52:11 AM
17 Facts You May Not Know About Mongolia:

1 Mongolia is the most sparsely populated country in the world.
2 The country is known for its vast steppes and nomadic culture.
3 Mongolia was the center of the Mongol Empire, founded by Genghis Khan in the 13th century.
4 The capital city is Ulaanbaatar, home to nearly half of the population.
5 Mongolia has a significant number of livestock, with more horses than people.
6 The country has a strong tradition of wrestling, archery, and horse racing, known as the "Three Manly Games."
7 Mongolia gained independence from China in 1921 and became a democratic republic in 1990.
8 The official language is Mongolian.
9 Mongolia has a harsh continental climate with long, cold winters and short, hot summers.
10 The country is rich in natural resources, including coal, copper, and gold.
11 Mongolia is known for its traditional music, including throat singing and the horsehead fiddle.
12 The Gobi Desert, one of the largest deserts in the world, is located in Mongolia.
13 Mongolia has a growing tourism industry, particularly focused on eco-tourism and cultural experiences.
14 The country celebrates Naadam, a major festival featuring traditional sports and cultural events.
15 Mongolia has a high literacy rate, with education being highly valued.
16 The country has a significant number of endangered species, including the snow leopard and the wild Bactrian camel.
17 Mongolia is a landlocked country, bordered by Russia to the north and China to the south.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 15, 2024, 10:56:36 AM
𝟐𝟏 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐥 𝐟𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐬 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐏𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐬:

 1. Paris, the capital city of France, is often referred to as the “City of Light” (La Ville Lumière) due to its role as a center of enlightenment during the Age of Enlightenment.
 2. The Eiffel Tower, one of the most iconic landmarks in the world, was completed in 1889 as the entrance arch for the 1889 World’s Fair and has since become a symbol of Paris and France.
 3. Paris is divided into 20 administrative districts called arrondissements, each with its own unique character and attractions.
 4. The Louvre Museum, located in the heart of Paris, is the largest art museum in the world and houses thousands of works of art, including the Mona Lisa and the Venus de Milo.
 5. Paris is known for its beautiful gardens and parks, including the Luxembourg Gardens, Tuileries Garden, and Buttes-Chaumont Park, which offer tranquil escapes from the bustling city.
 6. The River Seine flows through the center of Paris, dividing the city into the Left Bank (Rive Gauche) and the Right Bank (Rive Droite), each with its own distinct neighborhoods and attractions.
 7. The Cathedral of Notre-Dame, located on the Île de la Cité, is one of the finest examples of French Gothic architecture and is known for its stunning stained glass windows and intricate sculptures.
 8. Montmartre, located in the 18th arrondissement, is a historic neighborhood known for its bohemian atmosphere, artistic heritage, and iconic landmarks such as the Sacré-Cœur Basilica.
 9. Paris is renowned for its culinary scene, with an abundance of cafés, bistros, brasseries, and Michelin-starred restaurants offering delicious French cuisine and international flavors.
 10. The Latin Quarter, located on the Left Bank, is known for its vibrant street life, historic universities, and intellectual legacy, making it a hub for students, artists, and intellectuals.
 11. The Palace of Versailles, located just outside Paris, is a UNESCO World Heritage Site and was the principal residence of the French kings from Louis XIV to Louis XVI, known for its opulent architecture and lavish gardens.
 12. The Champs-Élysées, often referred to as the “most beautiful avenue in the world,” is lined with luxury boutiques, theaters, cafés, and landmarks such as the Arc de Triomphe.
 13. Paris is home to many world-class museums and cultural institutions, including the Musée d’Orsay, Musée Rodin, Centre Pompidou, and Fondation Louis Vuitton.
 14. The Catacombs of Paris, located beneath the streets of the city, contain the remains of over six million people and offer a fascinating glimpse into Paris’s underground history.
 15. The Paris Métro, opened in 1900, is one of the oldest and most extensive metro systems in the world, with 16 lines and over 300 stations serving the city and its suburbs.
 16. The Moulin Rouge, located in the Pigalle district, is the most famous cabaret in the world and has been entertaining audiences with its dazzling shows since 1889.
 17. Paris Fashion Week, held twice a year, is one of the most prestigious events in the fashion industry, showcasing the latest collections from top designers and couture houses.
 18. The Marais, located in the 3rd and 4th arrondissements, is a trendy and historic neighborhood known for its narrow streets, historic mansions, and vibrant LGBTQ+ scene.
 19. The Père Lachaise Cemetery, one of the largest cemeteries in Paris, is the final resting place of many famous figures, including Oscar Wilde, Jim Morrison, and Frédéric Chopin.
 20. Paris is a city of art and culture, with countless theaters, galleries, concert halls, and performance spaces offering a diverse range of artistic experiences.
 21. Paris’s rich history, stunning architecture, world-class cuisine, and vibrant cultural scene make it a timeless and enchanting destination for travelers from around the world.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2024, 11:11:47 AM
The Vatican is a very, very large Museum. Much of Rome is. Florence.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 15, 2024, 12:32:32 PM
Just booked our flights for Ireland late this year. Wife and I are going with her mom and stepdad. 

If anyone has been or has ideas on what to see/do, let me know. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2024, 01:05:32 PM
Never been but it's on our list. Why late in the year? Isn't it cold there? Like maybe 50's max?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 15, 2024, 01:25:55 PM
Never been but it's on our list. Why late in the year? Isn't it cold there? Like maybe 50's max?
I think it's not ever really "warm" there... We looked at various sites on "when to go" and generally they said to avoid the summer vacation stuff, and that May was good for spring, or Sep/Oct for fall. So we'll be going in early Oct. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2024, 02:11:02 PM
That should be decent at least. Is it rainy at that time?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 15, 2024, 02:16:51 PM
We were in Ireland and Northern Ireland last October.  The temperatures were cool to moderate, but not cold or freezing.  We had some storms at sea that were quite rough.

That was a decent cruise overall even though we had to miss two port visits.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 16, 2024, 11:36:43 AM
Hopefully next time we visit it'll be clear.  They have well over 300 clear days a year there, this was not one of them.  Hawaii, ya gotta love the place.

(https://i.imgur.com/DwBe1Xp.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 16, 2024, 11:50:27 AM
Today they close Peachtree Street in midtown for what they call "Streets Alive", which usually is pretty fun, but today I'd call it "This Street Will Cook You Alive".  And yes, we're going for a bit looking for shade.  It's already 87°F.

Our fav burger place has a Father's Day special we'll probably do.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 16, 2024, 01:09:34 PM
Just booked our flights for Ireland late this year. Wife and I are going with her mom and stepdad.

If anyone has been or has ideas on what to see/do, let me know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d09JWE1HPBQ
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 16, 2024, 01:41:59 PM
Just booked our flights for Ireland late this year. Wife and I are going with her mom and stepdad.

If anyone has been or has ideas on what to see/do, let me know.
I heard they have pubs there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 16, 2024, 02:40:44 PM
I heard they have pubs there.
Really? I guess I'll have a good time then :72:
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 17, 2024, 12:15:53 PM
Just booked our flights for Ireland late this year. Wife and I are going with her mom and stepdad.

If anyone has been or has ideas on what to see/do, let me know.
Drink lots of fresh Guinness.  And Jamesons.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 17, 2024, 12:22:41 PM
Jameson is too sweet for my liking. Gives me a headache.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 17, 2024, 12:35:39 PM
US larger cities I'd think about visiting again:

San Franciso
San Diego
Seattle
DC
Boston
NYC
Miami
Philadelphia
Minneapolis

Cities I'd prefer to avoid:

LA
New Orleans
Cleveland
Detroit
Chicago
Houston, at least in summer
Austin (I want to keep both kidneys)

I am told that Detroit is "coming back", so maybe I should give it a shot.




Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 17, 2024, 12:58:41 PM
Drink lots of fresh Guinness.  And Jamesons.
Yeah, we've heard that the Guinness factory is an absolute tourist trap and at the same time is absolutely a must see, so we're doing it lol. FIL wants to tour Jameson, so that's on the agenda (assuming they do tours; I haven't researched yet).
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 17, 2024, 01:00:17 PM
Jameson is too sweet for my liking. Gives me a headache.
That's how I feel about Crown Royal and all the Canadian whiskeys.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 17, 2024, 01:17:48 PM
Yep.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on June 17, 2024, 02:50:43 PM
Windsor Canadian is on the gun at the townie bar in the town I'm originally from. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 18, 2024, 12:22:22 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2024, 02:13:50 PM
17 Facts You May Not Know About Marseille:

1. Marseille is the second-largest city in France and the largest port on the Mediterranean coast, known for its rich history, diverse culture, and vibrant maritime heritage.
2. The city’s Old Port (Vieux-Port) has been a bustling hub of trade and fishing for over 2,600 years, offering a picturesque setting with cafes, markets, and a view of the bustling harbor.
3. Marseille’s Basilique Notre-Dame de la Garde, perched on a hilltop, is a prominent pilgrimage site and offers panoramic views of the city and the Mediterranean Sea.
4. The city’s historic district of Le Panier is known for its narrow streets, colorful houses, and artistic atmosphere, making it a charming area for exploration and cultural discovery.
5. Marseille’s Château d'If, a fortress-turned-prison, is famously associated with Alexandre Dumas' novel "The Count of Monte Cristo," and is a popular tourist attraction accessible by boat.
6. The city’s MuCEM (Museum of European and Mediterranean Civilisations) is a modern architectural marvel, showcasing art, history, and culture from the Mediterranean region.
7. Marseille’s Calanques, a series of stunning limestone cliffs and inlets, offer breathtaking hiking trails, crystal-clear waters, and opportunities for swimming and kayaking, making them a natural treasure of the city.
8. The city’s La Canebière is the main thoroughfare, lined with shops, cafes, and historic buildings, serving as the heart of Marseille’s commercial and cultural life.
9. Marseille’s Notre-Dame de la Garde is not only a religious site but also a symbol of the city, with its golden Virgin Mary statue visible from many parts of Marseille.
10. The city’s Panier district is known for its vibrant street art, local galleries, and artisan shops, reflecting Marseille’s creative and diverse spirit.
11. Marseille’s Port de la Joliette is a major commercial port and also home to the contemporary Les Docks Village, a cultural and shopping center housed in renovated warehouses.
12. The city’s market at Noailles is a bustling area famous for its exotic foods, spices, and multicultural atmosphere, reflecting Marseille’s diverse population.
13. Marseille’s historic Fort Saint-Jean, located near the MuCEM, offers stunning views and insights into the city’s maritime history, with a museum and cultural spaces.
14. The city’s Stade Vélodrome is a renowned sports stadium, home to the Olympique de Marseille football team, and known for its passionate fan base and vibrant match-day atmosphere.
15. Marseille’s cuisine is renowned for its seafood dishes, such as bouillabaisse (a traditional fish stew), aioli, and navettes (anise-flavored biscuits), reflecting the city’s maritime heritage.
16. The city’s Parc Borély is a beautiful park featuring formal gardens, a museum, and a lake, offering a peaceful retreat in the heart of Marseille.
17. Marseille is known for its calissons, a traditional Provençal candy made from ground almonds and candied fruit, often enjoyed as a local delicacy.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on June 20, 2024, 10:34:25 PM
Gotta say, quite impressed with Auburn AL.   First time visitor. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on June 21, 2024, 11:30:45 AM
Heading to Gulf Shores next week. I've never been there before. We just needed some beach time and didn't want to do Florida. It's convenient to where the MIL lives (Gadsden, AL) as well so we can make a quick stop there along the way. I've got a 9AM tee time in Gadsden on Monday. I'll probably try to get a round in while in Gulf Shores as well. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 21, 2024, 11:44:17 AM
Have fun.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on June 21, 2024, 11:46:09 AM
Gulf Shores is pretty decent, aside from all the locals... ;)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on June 21, 2024, 05:17:13 PM
Wife was a big fan of Dreamland bbq, i dragged family there on drive home.   Various AL locations now.  I was in Birmingham 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2024, 11:56:00 AM
Heading to Gulf Shores next week. I've never been there before. We just needed some beach time and didn't want to do Florida. It's convenient to where the MIL lives (Gadsden, AL) as well so we can make a quick stop there along the way. I've got a 9AM tee time in Gadsden on Monday. I'll probably try to get a round in while in Gulf Shores as well.
Be careful out there @LetsGoPeay (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7) .

6 beachgoers killed in Florida due to dangerous surf, rip currents | Fox Weather (https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/fla-drownings-summer-gulf-mexico-panhandle-peninsula-atlantic)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 24, 2024, 11:40:55 AM
This could also go on the history thread, but since we've been there, I'll stick it in here.

It's a beautiful city. Tons of culture.

The forgotten Italian city on its way back to greatness (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/tripideas/the-forgotten-italian-city-on-its-way-back-to-greatness/ar-BB1oLKk6?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=17014b86657242229ffd889bf6ea18e6&ei=17)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 24, 2024, 11:47:29 AM
I know they are in a lot of cities, but we took a cooking class at this place while we were there.

Eataly sito ufficiale: spesa online, negozi, idee regalo, corsi | Eataly (https://www.eataly.net/it_it?shipping_country=it)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 24, 2024, 02:04:52 PM
took 3 customers to Landmand for a round of golf last Thursday

largest greens in north America
it's quite impressive

(https://i.imgur.com/73iwG94.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XafTPXh.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 24, 2024, 02:10:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/G1WWAhw.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 26, 2024, 09:01:47 AM
I forgot about July, which is to say, I had been thinking we were leaving for Sedona next month, but we're going in August.

I guess the heat here now will somewhat prepare me.  It's supposed to hit 98°F here, which is not a record, but close.

I've been checking things to visit around Sedona and it seems there are a lot to see, which is good.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 26, 2024, 09:07:24 AM
Sedona is not a hot spot (temperature). We've been in the summer (and all seasons).

It's gonna be around 20 degrees cooler than Phoenix at that time of year. Maybe more.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on June 26, 2024, 09:12:40 AM
The average high in August is stated to be 97°F in Sedona.  Phoenix is 105°F.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 26, 2024, 09:18:08 AM
Not the two times we were up there in the summer. Winds were out of the North both times, so there's that.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2024, 07:38:15 AM
McDonald's has just one restaurant with a so-called Ski-Thru, located at the Lindvallen ski resort in Sälen, Sweden. The McSki restaurant, as it's also known, opened in 1996 and feeds hungry skiers throughout the winter.

(https://i.imgur.com/jRZScs3.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on June 30, 2024, 07:28:00 AM
Well-Tempered Traveler

The Well-Tempered Traveler shows year-round temperatures & precipitation levels for dozens of cities around the world.

https://www.google.com/welltemperedtraveler/ (https://www.google.com/welltemperedtraveler/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 01, 2024, 05:17:39 PM
How to avoid the ‘stupid American’ stereotype while traveling abroad | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/travel/avoid-stupid-american-stereotype-traveling-abroad/index.html)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 02, 2024, 07:56:01 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/gtgsrQX.png)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on July 02, 2024, 08:29:52 AM
Visited Charleston a few weeks ago. Good God is that place a hotbox in the summer. I didn’t have the most extensive plans, but I basically stayed in and moved very little during most of the afternoon.

Lovely and get very weird city. Have slash have not history is almost built into the structure of it in a profound way.

(unrelated, but it is also not steaming hot in the southern city where I live this morning, so I almost felt obligated to get out and go for a walk before work just because of the temperature)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 02, 2024, 08:34:56 AM
Coastal cities arae humid and hot this time of year.  I think ON the coast is a bit better due to usually having a breeze.

Atlanta is a bit better because of altitude, we're at about 1,000 feet, which usually is worth 4.5°F.  

A breeze is great to have in summer, even a slight one.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on July 02, 2024, 08:38:21 AM
Coastal cities arae humid and hot this time of year.  I think ON the coast is a bit better due to usually having a breeze.

Atlanta is a bit better because of altitude, we're at about 1,000 feet, which usually is worth 4.5°F. 

A breeze is great to have in summer, even a slight one.
East coastal cities. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 02, 2024, 08:43:35 AM
I forgot about those west coastal cities.  Do they count?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on July 02, 2024, 09:00:11 AM
I forgot about those west coastal cities.  Do they count?
I guess for now, until the big one hits and they slide off into the ocean.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on July 02, 2024, 09:50:51 AM
I forgot about those west coastal cities.  Do they count?
They’re not humid. And some of them aren’t even hot. (although Oregon is understatedly hot)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 03, 2024, 09:00:19 AM
17 Facts You May Not Know About Istanbul:

1 Istanbul, formerly known as Byzantium and Constantinople, is the largest city in Turkey and the country's economic, cultural, and historical hub.
2 The city straddles two continents, Europe and Asia, separated by the Bosphorus Strait.
3 Hagia Sophia, originally a cathedral, later a mosque, and now a museum, is one of Istanbul's most famous landmarks and a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
4 The Blue Mosque (Sultan Ahmed Mosque), known for its stunning blue tiles and six minarets, is a major attraction in Istanbul.
5 Istanbul was the capital of three major empires: the Roman, Byzantine, and Ottoman Empires.
6 The city's Grand Bazaar is one of the oldest and largest covered markets in the world, with over 4,000 shops.
7 Istanbul's Topkapi Palace, once the primary residence of the Ottoman sultans, is now a museum showcasing Ottoman treasures and artifacts.
8 The city's iconic Galata Tower offers panoramic views of Istanbul and has a history dating back to the medieval Genoese colony.
9 Istanbul is known for its vibrant street food scene, featuring delights like simit (a sesame-covered bread), döner kebab, and baklava.
10 The Bosphorus Bridge, one of the city's three suspension bridges, connects the European and Asian sides of Istanbul.
11 The Basilica Cistern, an ancient underground water storage system, is a fascinating historical site beneath Istanbul's streets.
12 Istanbul's Taksim Square is a major cultural and political hub, surrounded by shops, restaurants, and the historic Istiklal Avenue.
13 The city's rich cultural heritage includes traditional Turkish music, dance, and the renowned Whirling Dervishes.
14 Istanbul's modern skyline features skyscrapers, luxury hotels, and contemporary architecture, particularly in the business district of Levent.
15 The city's public transportation includes buses, trams, ferries, and a metro system, facilitating easy travel across the sprawling metropolis.
16 Istanbul is home to many historic churches, synagogues, and mosques, reflecting its diverse religious heritage.
17 The city's vibrant arts scene includes numerous galleries, theaters, and cultural events, such as the Istanbul Biennial and the International Istanbul Film Festival.


I'll give a full report when we return, if we return ....
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 03, 2024, 09:20:11 AM
still not compelled to visit

I didn't see anything about golf courses or sports bars with chicken wings
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 03, 2024, 09:21:56 AM
You probably can find golf courses a lot closer, and cheaper.

We both are interested in "foreign culture", and have a tour guide living down the hall who will show us about.  He also speaks fluent German, so I may see if he'll join us in Vienna sometime.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 03, 2024, 10:02:15 AM
buy him a 1st class ticket

Hell, I might go along with a free ticket in coach
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 03, 2024, 11:48:25 AM
Our friend is already there.  He has a beach house on the Adriatic and goes every summer.  I did get him a hotel room in Istanbul.

Our friends from Marseille are also joining us.  It's a zero Bday for me.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 03, 2024, 11:02:46 PM
Came across this in my travels
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 05, 2024, 02:28:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UfKuSzW.png)

Beartooth Pass Highway
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on July 05, 2024, 07:41:30 PM
My favorite drive in continental US
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on July 05, 2024, 07:43:00 PM
Plenty of souvenirs for FF here in Michigan. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 07, 2024, 11:48:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/GI9VzZ7.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on July 07, 2024, 01:47:35 PM
One of those claims simply does not add up.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 14, 2024, 07:08:01 AM
Tight Accommodations: Capsule Hotels

If a bed and a TV are all you need, try a capsule hotel. Developed in Japan in the 1970s, capsule hotels offer accommodations in modular blocks roughly 6.5 x 3.25 x 4 ft (2 x 1 x 1.25 m) in size. Capsules are typically stacked 2 units high, and luggage is usually stored in a separate locker. Used primarily by men, the hotels are frequented for their convenience and low price, often by those who missed a train or want to sleep off a night of drinking.

(https://i.imgur.com/a7rX7xO.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 15, 2024, 07:55:10 AM
It was great seeing these three over the weekend. We will be going back several times between now and the end of the year.

(https://i.imgur.com/p1XIK3H.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on July 15, 2024, 09:29:19 AM
Tight Accommodations: Capsule Hotels

If a bed and a TV are all you need, try a capsule hotel. Developed in Japan in the 1970s, capsule hotels offer accommodations in modular blocks roughly 6.5 x 3.25 x 4 ft (2 x 1 x 1.25 m) in size. Capsules are typically stacked 2 units high, and luggage is usually stored in a separate locker. Used primarily by men, the hotels are frequented for their convenience and low price, often by those who missed a train or want to sleep off a night of drinking.

(https://i.imgur.com/a7rX7xO.png)

I have some mild claustrophobia and these things look horrible.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 15, 2024, 09:31:23 AM
Same, but not mild.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 15, 2024, 09:32:41 AM
similar to some of the accommodations at the county jail I've enjoyed
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 15, 2024, 09:57:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/t3Y38vj.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 21, 2024, 12:13:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AZvgbNi.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 21, 2024, 08:51:36 PM
It's been a federal parklands summer for me. As far as National Parks, I've been all through Zion, Bryce, Great Basin, and Grand Canyon north rim. Toss in a pair of National Recreation Areas with Lake Mead and Glen Canyon. Several National Monuments on top of that, Grand Staircase, Vermilion Cliffs, Gold Butte and Cedar Breaks. National Forests; Dixie, Fish Lake, Humboldt and Kaibab. 

Awfully scenic up there on the Colorado Plateau. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 22, 2024, 01:59:36 PM
 suppose it's not "travel" so much, but every time I head to LA County it seems like quite a trek! So I'll post here...

We (wife, oldest son, and myself) went to go see Zac Brown Band and Kenny Chesney at SoFi Stadium on Saturday. First of all, it is a very nice stadium. Our first time there.

We had tickets on the field. If you can visualize pretty much any stadium tour, you know that stage is basically at one end of the field, probably around the 10-15 yard line. We had tickets at approximately the opposite goal line. Which are pretty solid tickets for a stadium tour, but still a long way away.

So we get there, and our row doesn't exist... They took out our row to make room for accessible seating. We're freaking out, but we go over to guest services, check our tickets, and give us a little envelope with new tickets/seats. Turns out (to keep the football analogy) our new seats are on about the 25-yard line closest to the stage, but offset so we'd be about on the sideline of the field rather than center. I'll take that upgrade any day!

Here's the view from our seats:

(https://cdn.homebrewtalk.com/data/attach/794/794359-1721670804034.jpeg)

As for the concert, I'm not going to lie. Zac Brown Band stole the show, and I was fairly disappointed in Kenny.

ZBB had their own stuff, but also covers of Charlie Daniels' The Devil Went Down to Georgia, Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody, Paul Simon's You Can Call Me Al, and Beastie Boys' Sabotage. All of which were fun. And their own stuff was solid. Granted, I'm a rock/blues guy (the wife/son are the country fans) so ZBB runs pretty much in the vein of country that's closest to my taste. But they had a great vibe.

Kenny was a little disappointing. Part of it was acoustics. While I didn't get this from ZBB, his vocals were fairly muddled and dominated by his band during the show. Maybe it was due to where we were sitting, but again I didn't get that from ZBB, so I don't know. It just didn't seem like he sounded right. And overall, it really seemed like everything he played sounded significantly worse than the recorded version. I also felt like he was "going through the motions" of just kinda playing all the hits as crowd service but didn't seem to be all that into it--even though he was very high energy. I suspect it was just me, as the crowd seemed to love him, but I found myself wishing it would be over... One might say I was "unimpressed".
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 22, 2024, 02:02:21 PM
ZBB is the best show I've seen. He did all of those you listed, plus Enter Sandman.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 22, 2024, 02:06:23 PM
ZBB is the best show I've seen. He did all of those you listed, plus Enter Sandman.
Ahh, damn, sorry I missed out on that one!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 02:23:42 PM
The rock and country concerts today seem to me to be half SHOW and half MUSIC, maybe.  I have not attended one in ... well, a long time.

We have symphony season tickets, the "show" part is negligible there of course, a pianist like Lang Lang will ham it up, which is OK with me, my wife doesn't care for it.

Lang Lang performing Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No.1 at National Memorial Day Concert (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN7XO5pYXqM)

Lang Lang - Grieg Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 16 (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfNvWmjtryQ)

The last one is a favorite of mine.  I remain amazed that professional musicians can perform such pieces with very little practice together.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on July 22, 2024, 02:28:53 PM
The rock and country concerts today seem to me to be half SHOW and half MUSIC, maybe.  I have not attended one in ... well, a long time.

We have symphony season tickets, the "show" part is negligible there of course, a pianist like Lang Lang will ham it up, which is OK with me, my wife doesn't care for it.

Lang Lang performing Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No.1 at National Memorial Day Concert (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN7XO5pYXqM)

Lang Lang - Grieg Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 16 (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfNvWmjtryQ)

The last one is a favorite of mine.  I remain amazed that professional musicians can perform such pieces with very little practice together.


I'm not sure what this means.  KISS has been around for 50 years and their shows have always been at least half "show" and half music. Tons of other acts that go back that far or even further, are the same.  I don't view this as something new.

I love George Strait's music but his live shows are about the worst thing I've ever experienced.  He sits on a stool and plays his guitar and the backup band plays behind him and it's all note-for-note identical to what you hear on his albums.  Which is fine, of course, but since I already have the album, why would I need to see the live performance?  I've seen him live twice, both times because the girl I was dating at the time really wanted to see him. 


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 02:30:47 PM
I didn't mean to imply this is a new thing, I know it's been around for decades.  But, back in my day, a lot of rock groups just played their gig without a lot of effects.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on July 22, 2024, 02:32:21 PM
I didn't mean to imply this is a new thing, I know it's been around for decades.  But, back in my day, a lot of rock groups just played their gig without a lot of effects.


Elvis danced around to entertain the ladies, he could have played the music just fine without doing so. :)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 02:35:44 PM
He learned those moves from Forrest Gump.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 02:38:37 PM
Lang Lang - Grieg Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 16 (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfNvWmjtryQ)

The last one is a favorite of mine. 
I had this playing in background, and the audience applauded after the first movement, my wife gets very upset when the crowd does this.  She starts cursing, in French.

Merde.

Sometimes I start to applaud by moving my hands and she will grab my arm.  Then she laughs.  I hate when people laugh between movements.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on July 22, 2024, 02:54:25 PM
When performing symphonic/orchestral music, it never bothered me when people clapped in between movements.  I don't expect the entire audience to be familiar with the subtleties of every single piece.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 02:55:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/iRlpJFV.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 22, 2024, 04:25:13 PM
I love George Strait's music but his live shows are about the worst thing I've ever experienced.  He sits on a stool and plays his guitar and the backup band plays behind him and it's all note-for-note identical to what you hear on his albums.  Which is fine, of course, but since I already have the album, why would I need to see the live performance?  I've seen him live twice, both times because the girl I was dating at the time really wanted to see him.
I've seen him once, because the girl I was planning to marry, and now am married to, really wanted to see him [again]. 

Personally I don't mind when an artist sounds like they do on their album. I saw Rush once and they were so amazingly precise and technical that it could have been their album version and nobody would have been able to tell. I credit that to their proficience as musicians. I also am really impressed when an artist sounds better live than their album version. That tells you they're the real deal.

What bothers me is when an artist sounds worse than they do on the album. It makes you feel like you've been cheated as a fan and they're only as popular as they are because they had a good producer. 

The rock and country concerts today seem to me to be half SHOW and half MUSIC, maybe.

Well it's like going to a football game [which I do] or a political rally [which I do not]. There's an area of it that is about the show and communal experience. There's a different energy in a large crowd like that. The artists can feed into and then intensify that energy. 

That's what I thought I'd be getting with Kenny Chesney. He's sorta the Jimmy Buffett of country. His show is supposed to be an experience, a party. Maybe it just wasn't my kind of party, I guess...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on July 22, 2024, 04:37:51 PM
I've seen him once, because the girl I was planning to marry, and now am married to, really wanted to see him [again].

Personally I don't mind when an artist sounds like they do on their album. I saw Rush once and they were so amazingly precise and technical that it could have been their album version and nobody would have been able to tell. I credit that to their proficience as musicians. I also am really impressed when an artist sounds better live than their album version. That tells you they're the real deal.

What bothers me is when an artist sounds worse than they do on the album. It makes you feel like you've been cheated as a fan and they're only as popular as they are because they had a good producer.

Well it's like going to a football game [which I do] or a political rally [which I do not]. There's an area of it that is about the show and communal experience. There's a different energy in a large crowd like that. The artists can feed into and then intensify that energy.

That's what I thought I'd be getting with Kenny Chesney. He's sorta the Jimmy Buffett of country. His show is supposed to be an experience, a party. Maybe it just wasn't my kind of party, I guess...


This isn't really what I'm talking about.  I've seen Rush live on three different occasions, and while I agree that they're a really tight combo that sounds as good live as they do in the studio, the live renditions of the songs themselves have long extended solos and super-long bridge sequences that are not part of the recorded studio version.  In other words, they've added to and extended the song, to provide the concert audience an experience that they haven't already heard in the recorded version.

George Strait, on the other hand, plays back every song live, pretty much exactly as it was recorded, note-for-note.  There is nothing additional an audience member can experience in the live concert, that wasn't exactly as it was in the studio version.

And still, I love George Strait, I really do.  I just don't see any purpose at all in going to his concerts. 

(unless you're trying to get laid, of course.  That is a worthwhile purpose)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 22, 2024, 04:38:49 PM
I saw Rush 28 times in total, starting in 1979 at Comiskey Park. Yeah, I know...

They were absolutely fantastic, even if Geddy could no longer get up on the high notes as he aged.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on July 22, 2024, 04:44:34 PM
The last couple of times Kenny Chesney played a show here in MSP, it seems that the minimum BAC for admission is well north of the legal limit. One has to be shitfaced to put up with him.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 22, 2024, 05:08:38 PM
And still, I love George Strait, I really do.  I just don't see any purpose at all in going to his concerts.

(unless you're trying to get laid, of course.  That is a worthwhile purpose)
Well, the purpose was successful. Not that I thought it was in doubt at that point in the relationship of course :57:

I saw Rush 28 times in total, starting in 1979 at Comiskey Park. Yeah, I know...

They were absolutely fantastic, even if Geddy could no longer get up on the high notes as he aged.
Did you see them at Tinley Park in the late 90s? Right after Test for Echo came out? If so, we were at the same concert...

The last couple of times Kenny Chesney played a show here in MSP, it seems that the minimum BAC for admission is well north of the legal limit. One has to be shitfaced to put up with him.
We saw some people get tossed. Including some jackasses who were in the row right behind us. Based on their behavior prior to getting ejected, I was not surprised or unhappy to see them go. Especially when one of them (shortly before being tossed) bumped into me stepped on my new sneaks... But I wasn't worried they were going to start some stuff. Considering that "bumping into me" is basically "bumping off of me" because I didn't move an inch...

Funny thing... One of the guys in our row ended up buying a couple beers and had one too many (not that HE'd consumed one too many, he bought one too many) during ZBB. Saw my very tall son in a cowboy hat and tried to hand it to him. My son obviously deferred and he looked at me and I yelled over the music, "He's 16!!!" So he apologized and gave me the beer instead. Can't complain about that!

He was wearing a Texas Longhorns hat so once ZBB was done I asked him to sell my son on UT, as that's one of the schools he's interested in. All he could talk about was football, so I'm guessing he wasn't an alum lol...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on July 22, 2024, 05:18:56 PM
Ha!  Until the very end of last season, if I were trying to sell someone on UT, I probably wouldn't even mention the football team. ;)

If your son has any questions though, feel free to reach out.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 22, 2024, 05:22:36 PM
Yes, I was at Tinley multiple times to see them.

Alpine, Chicago Ampitheater, Chicago Stadium, United Center, Rosemont Horizon, Summerfest, Dane County Colosseum, Bradley Center. Pretty much all of them in and around Chicago/Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 22, 2024, 05:24:35 PM
Ha!  Until the very end of last season, if I were trying to sell someone on UT, I probably wouldn't even mention the football team. ;)

If your son has any questions though, feel free to reach out. 
Will do. And if/when we come to visit and tour the campus, I'll let you know. 

I think he's largely started to reconsider a physics major b/c the "path to money" is a little more difficult until/unless you get an MS or PhD, so I think he's leaning engineering. Either way, UT is on his radar. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 05:48:21 PM
An MS in science often is a consolation degree for not passing your orals.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 23, 2024, 07:11:27 AM
"Unless it's in Engineering."

- My Professor at UW.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 23, 2024, 07:18:18 AM
I tend to view science and engineering as different things.  Where I went, a Master's degree usually meant you couldn't pass your oral exams, which did happen.  It was a consolation prize, not really worth much.  There were a couple folks there going for a Master's for some reason, and I think they got an MA oddly enough, not an MS.

My buddy told me the PhDs in physics at Tech get good jobs, often as analysts on Wall Street, or "think tanks".  We had a ton of MEs and CEs where I worked, and a lot of chemists, but no physicists that I knew of.  We had one lady in our group with an MS but she was at the same level as folks with BS degrees.

Orals were "entertaining".
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 25, 2024, 12:33:57 PM
https://abc7.com/post/southwest-airlines-breaks-50-year-tradition-plans-start/15093512/


 (https://abc7.com/tag/southwest-airlines/)
Quote
Southwest Airlines (https://abc7.com/tag/southwest-airlines/) plans to drop its tradition of more than 50 years and start assigning seats and selling premium seating for customers who want more legroom.

The airline said Thursday that it has been studying seating options and is making the changes because passenger preferences have shifted. The moves could also generate revenue and boost financial performance.

...

Southwest has used an open-seating model since its founding, with passengers lining up to board, then choosing their own seat once they are on the airplane. But, the airline said, preferences have "evolved" - as more travelers take longer flights, they want an assigned seat.

The airline also said it will offer redeye flights for the first time.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 25, 2024, 05:07:00 PM
just bring back the free drinks
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on July 28, 2024, 10:35:43 AM
Busy summer weekend with downtown hosting their annual Comic-Con. Many more attendees than last year but not as many charming one-off promotions – like last year Cozi TV and Laff channel hosting large interactive fan displays for shows in outdated syndication, like Roseanne and That 70s Show. This year they’ve cracked down on a lot of the free events, requiring the Convention Pass for what used to be free, like the Anime screenings in conference halls of the nearby hotels:

(https://i.imgur.com/roUPM2l.jpeg)

Walking back to my apartment tower, three sex workers were in handcuffs along with a druggie guy that was with them (their pimp?). After about 30 minutes of questioning and calling in backup PD cruisers, the druggie guy was issued a formal citation and released.

(https://i.imgur.com/ph5Rc5A.jpeg)

The police didn’t have time to write citations for the sex workers, releasing them as well, because they were dispatched to the scene of a large fire two blocks away:

(https://i.imgur.com/Swa62zw.jpeg)

Police blocked off the streets to make room for the Fire Department to stage their trucks for what turned out to be an extensive kitchen fire inside a Brazilian steakhouse. The whole block had to be evacuated, to include a nightclub which was hosting an immersive Batman experience to promote HBO’s upcoming Batman spinoff. Many of the evacuees, to include the show’s cast members, who poured into the streets were in full costume, especially in Joker costumes of the Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix variety. The hilarious thing, as they told me, is that when the lights beamed on inside the nightclub and announcements were made to evacuate into the streets, many believed it was part of the immersive experience until they caught sight of the fire engines.

(https://i.imgur.com/RDctzDO.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2024, 10:49:33 AM
Dahl & Di Luca Ristorante Italiano | Sedona, Arizona (dahlanddiluca.com) (https://www.dahlanddiluca.com/)

Bump, will definitely dine there.  I've found a number of things to do and see around Sedona, signed up for three tours.  My wife has wanted to see Antelope Canyon for years now.

Dahl & Di Luca Ristorante Italiano | Sedona, Arizona (dahlanddiluca.com) (https://www.dahlanddiluca.com/menu)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 28, 2024, 10:57:14 AM
If you like planes, go to the airport restaurant for breakfast. It's pretty fun to watch the planes come in and take off. The food is very good there.

It's a common destination when I go flying with my BIL, from his home airport in Chandler.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2024, 11:00:21 AM
I think our flights are around noonish both ways.  We might drive over to Winslow, Arizona, I hear it's a fine site to see.

Have some winery tours booked, never had AZ wine that I know of.  New Mexico makes a decent sparkling wine, Gruet.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 28, 2024, 11:02:09 AM
Where are you flying into?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2024, 11:03:09 AM
Phoenix.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 28, 2024, 11:08:33 AM
OK, I'm talking about the Mesa Grill at Sedona airport.

You will find no shortage of restaurants in Sedona, but for a changeup Mesa is fun (if you like watching planes) and has really good food.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2024, 11:10:20 AM
I might drop by and see how much it is to rent a Cessna 172 with instructor.  I have not flown since 2006.  I just pulled out my license to stick in my wallet (not that I'd really need it).  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 28, 2024, 11:15:01 AM
It's a good way to see the city.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on July 28, 2024, 12:59:45 PM
You can go the Cowboy club in Sedona and get Buffalo cooked a variety of ways, Elk, Rattlesnake or Prickly Pear Catus Fries
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 28, 2024, 02:20:14 PM


Antelope Canyon is a good pull. I caught it on my Glen Canyon excursion. 

Way to delve beneath the surface level attractions a little bit. 

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.ce4fdb0c3ab7044593ad6a8240f84c67?rik=dOwVuMnSE5tGhw&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on July 28, 2024, 04:20:09 PM
I have not flown since 2006. 
(https://i.imgur.com/XDMNZbB.png)

Well at least you can't turn the cropduster over and dump me out
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2024, 04:25:40 PM
Crop dusters are quite powerful planes, low speed, but a ton of torque.  I've never flown in one, I was never certified for "complex" aircraft.

Anything with over 200 hp and/or a variable pitch prop and/or retractble gear is "complex".
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 28, 2024, 07:23:37 PM
good to know those "farmers" in fancy crop duster planes are complex 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 29, 2024, 10:36:26 AM
DEATH VALLEY, Calif. (WKRC) - A man was rescued from the oppressive heat of one of the country's hottest National Parks after the skin melted off his feet, according to the National Park Service.

Park rangers said a 42-year-old Belgian tourist suffered third-degree burns when he lost his flip-flops in the sand dunes of Death Valley.

"The ground temperature would have been much hotter than the air temperature, which was around 123 degrees," officials said.


His family called authorities for help and other parkgoers helped them carry the tourist to the parking lot, the release stated.

Authorities reported the tourist suffered third-degree "full-thickness" burns on his feet. A National Park ranger said, "The skin was melted off his foot."

Park rangers instantly recognized the man required a hospital due to his burns and pain level, but Death Valley was so hot that it was dangerous for a helicopter to land.

The rangers had to drive the man to higher elevations in an ambulance where the temperature was 109 degrees. Mercy Air transported the man to University Medical Center in Las Vegas.


Park rangers gave some advice to those interested in visiting Death Valley during the heat:

Stay within a 10-minute walk of a vehicle with air conditioning
Do not hike after 10 a.m.
Drink plenty of water
Eat salty snacks
Wear protection (hat and sunscreen)


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on July 29, 2024, 01:59:42 PM

Antelope Canyon is a good pull. I caught it on my Glen Canyon excursion.

Way to delve beneath the surface level attractions a little bit.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.ce4fdb0c3ab7044593ad6a8240f84c67?rik=dOwVuMnSE5tGhw&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)

I spent a lot of time out on the Navajo Reservation when I lived in Gallup, NM. I used to play in basketball tournaments three out of four weekends a month. I sprained my ankle very badly in a tournament at the Window Rock Civic Center.  The reservation is a huge area with many areas that are still inaccessible. Many people live out there without modern utilities or conveniences. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 29, 2024, 09:33:16 PM
I spent a lot of time out on the Navajo Reservation when I lived in Gallup, NM. I used to play in basketball tournaments three out of four weekends a month. I sprained my ankle very badly in a tournament at the Window Rock Civic Center.  The reservation is a huge area with many areas that are still inaccessible. Many people live out there without modern utilities or conveniences.


Cool, what was Gallup like? NM is one of the few states that I've never been to amazingly. I was eyeballing maybe a four corners sorta thing, check out Farmington, Cortez and Durango, along with the myriad of things in that area that I can gain entry to with my Park pass. 

The sheer size of the Navajo rez always amazed me. It's larger than 10 states. 


(https://maps.quickworld.com/maps/qmg/qmg-usa-nvj-q01.png)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 29, 2024, 09:37:24 PM
DEATH VALLEY, Calif. (WKRC) - A man was rescued from the oppressive heat of one of the country's hottest National Parks after the skin melted off his feet, according to the National Park Service.

Park rangers said a 42-year-old Belgian tourist suffered third-degree burns when he lost his flip-flops in the sand dunes of Death Valley.

"The ground temperature would have been much hotter than the air temperature, which was around 123 degrees," officials said.


His family called authorities for help and other parkgoers helped them carry the tourist to the parking lot, the release stated.

Authorities reported the tourist suffered third-degree "full-thickness" burns on his feet. A National Park ranger said, "The skin was melted off his foot."

Park rangers instantly recognized the man required a hospital due to his burns and pain level, but Death Valley was so hot that it was dangerous for a helicopter to land.

The rangers had to drive the man to higher elevations in an ambulance where the temperature was 109 degrees. Mercy Air transported the man to University Medical Center in Las Vegas.


Park rangers gave some advice to those interested in visiting Death Valley during the heat:

Stay within a 10-minute walk of a vehicle with air conditioning
Do not hike after 10 a.m.
Drink plenty of water
Eat salty snacks
Wear protection (hat and sunscreen)





I think I'm going to wait until about January before I visit that particular nearby National Park. 


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on July 29, 2024, 09:44:47 PM

Cool, what was Gallup like? NM is one of the few states that I've never been to amazingly. I was eyeballing maybe a four corners sorta thing, check out Farmington, Cortez and Durango, along with the myriad of things in that area that I can gain entry to with my Park pass.

The sheer size of the Navajo rez always amazed me. It's larger than 10 states.


forget Cortez.  Spend your time in Durango and Telluride and Silverton and Ouray hot springs

Mesa Verde National Park is cool











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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 07, 2024, 11:09:24 PM
Merritt Reservoir State Recreation Area was just named by Travel + Leisure magazine as the #1 destination in the US for Astrotourism.🔭🪐

With its exceptional dark skies and remote location, in 2022 Merritt Reservoir State Recreation Area became the first and only designated Dark Sky Park in Nebraska by the International Dark Sky Association (IDA).


(https://i.imgur.com/3ePmBSJ.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Hawkinole on August 07, 2024, 11:28:17 PM
Fearless, that is an amazing photograph. I am a pixel peeper and see plenty of Milky Way shots. The foreground and backdrop are nice. While I will not likely land at this reservoir, thanks for sharing it!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 08, 2024, 07:44:30 AM
We leave Saturday for Phoenix, then Sedona by rental car.  We're looking forward to it.  I set up three tours through Viator, we've had decent luck with them in the past.  One is a night time "star watching tour".  I still remember looking up on the slopes of Mauna Kea at night, it was incredible.  The last time we were up that mountain we got hit with a blizzard and had to come down, and the viewing area was overcast, which is a rare event there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 08, 2024, 08:14:07 AM
I'm not much of a stargazer but, I friend of mine is.

We didn't go to the Merritt Reservoir State Recreation Area, but a hilltop about 15 miles east of there on hwy 83.
It was a moonless November night.
I was VERY impressed
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 08, 2024, 08:22:37 AM
I have a decent 4.5 inch telescope, not much use around here, and there is no way to get it on a plane (safely).  I think about taking it up into the mountains some time.

It's not easy to aim, equatorial mount etc.  In Hawaii, the tour operators provide an 11" Celestron, but it's not as impressive, to me, as just looking up into the dark night sky.

I've been in Wyoming where we could see the Milky Way, but in Hawaii at 9,000 feet is pretty spectacular.  The cities there use reddish street lights to avoid light pollution for the scopes up nearly 14,000 feet.  

We once had Jupiter next to the moon and after some finagling I got Jupiter on the scope, it was pretty neat, the four major moons were pin pricks.  If you want a scope, I'd suggest staying with a "normal" mount, the smaller scopes do about as well as the more complex ones, in my experience.  And the tripod is important if you use a long secondary (eye piece).  A good solid tripod.  Mine wiggles if you just brush it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 08, 2024, 08:27:37 AM
Oldest daughter is a stargazer and I've thought about buying her a used telescope.
I'd guess she would use it some the first year or so, and then it would gather dust in a closet.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 08, 2024, 08:30:54 AM
I think the problem is folks see photos on line and want a telescope that looks the same, and nothing you can buy at any reasonable price will do that.  You need a "tracker" that follows an object to get most of those photos.  And learning how to spot planets, while pretty easy, it a bit intimidating.  Any star will just be a point of light.

So, yes, they use it once or twice and then put it away.  

It takes some expensive gear to get good photos.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on August 08, 2024, 06:44:55 PM
Flew yesterday, 3 connecting flights diagonally crossing the nation from San Diego all the way to Presque Isle in Northern Maine. The furthest Southwest airport to the furthest Northeast. A straight line distance of 2740 miles. Figured that’s about as far apart as two commercial airports can be in the continental U.S, so I looked up crossing from the two other corners - Northwest to Southeast. Turns out the straight line distance between Bellingham WA and Miami FL is 2766 miles.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 08, 2024, 07:44:31 PM
I think the problem is folks see photos on line and want a telescope that looks the same, and nothing you can buy at any reasonable price will do that.  You need a "tracker" that follows an object to get most of those photos.  And learning how to spot planets, while pretty easy, it a bit intimidating.  Any star will just be a point of light.

So, yes, they use it once or twice and then put it away. 

It takes some expensive gear to get good photos.
Visibility has been pretty low out west for the last few weeks. Maybe you'll get lucky, and it will all clear up. 

Great Basin NP is one of the top star gazing places, but when I went a couple weeks ago it was so hazy that I could hardly see the valley floor from the mountain top in the middle of the day. They did have this crazy telescope that worked during daylight hours somehow, but not through clouds. 

Isn't there a website that forecasts visibility levels? That would be useful. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 08, 2024, 08:21:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wDwJp3h.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 08, 2024, 10:08:39 PM
Isn't there a website that forecasts visibility levels? That would be useful.
I think so
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 09, 2024, 08:26:06 AM
Isn't there a website that forecasts visibility levels? That would be useful.
Aviation web sites should state visibility out to ten miles.  "CAVU" = Ceiling and Visibility Unlimited".  It means is clear out there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 09, 2024, 08:46:33 AM
We leave Saturday for Phoenix, then Sedona by rental car.  We're looking forward to it.  I set up three tours through Viator, we've had decent luck with them in the past.  One is a night time "star watching tour".  I still remember looking up on the slopes of Mauna Kea at night, it was incredible.  The last time we were up that mountain we got hit with a blizzard and had to come down, and the viewing area was overcast, which is a rare event there.
This place is pretty neat for some easy outdoor shopping. Lots of "artsy-fartsy" stuff. Well, that is what Sedona actually is all about. You'll see...


(https://i.imgur.com/1WVbsnk.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 09, 2024, 08:53:07 AM
Probably should go here, just because.

Cowboy Club Grille & Spirits - Uptown, Sedona, AZ (https://cowboyclub.com/)

Uptown is a good area too.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 09, 2024, 08:56:39 AM
Flew yesterday, 3 connecting flights diagonally crossing the nation from San Diego all the way to Presque Isle in Northern Maine. The furthest Southwest airport to the furthest Northeast. A straight line distance of 2740 miles. Figured that’s about as far apart as two commercial airports can be in the continental U.S, so I looked up crossing from the two other corners - Northwest to Southeast. Turns out the straight line distance between Bellingham WA and Miami FL is 2766 miles.


oldest daughter is flying to Maine for her 30th Bday next month

Minneapolis to Chicago to Bangor

she's not planning to go as far north as Presque Isle
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 09, 2024, 09:11:16 AM
One of my wife's favorite places to stay/visit is Highlands, NC.  It's about as artsy fartsy as it gets.  Solano Beach is another one.

Highlands was settled originally by rich southerners to avoid the heat, it's over 4,000 feet alt.  It's still a bit upscale mostly.  The motels get pricey, like $600-700 at times.

We really like The Park on Main, which has a dog theme.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 09, 2024, 09:20:06 AM
She's going to like Sedona.

You will find music performers at that outdoor "mall" I pointed out above too. Kinda fun.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 09, 2024, 09:23:59 AM
We're staying 8 nights, I have three tours scheduled that will take up three days, most of.  I'd like to see Canyon de Chelly and Meteor Crater on our own.  She seems pretty excited about the trip, and we're staying at what appears to be a nice resort.  Tomorrow is our wedding anniversary, so I bumped us up to first going out.  Just C+ coming back, might get upgraded anyway.

Airline fares have really jumped, no shocker there.

Delta has a mess on  their hands.

It's a 0.9 mile walk to MARTA, in this heat, we're going to use Lyft.  And I broke a toe while asleep the other morning.  I kicked something, and it's broken and pretty sore.  I can sort of walk with a limp but it isn't fun.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 09, 2024, 09:26:16 AM
strange things happen when you quit drinkin
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 09, 2024, 09:30:34 AM
Yeah, I've stayed on the wagon since Sunday, which is great for me.  It was more a habit than an addiction.  I thought I'd go until the weekend and start back, but now, I'm thinking I might as well stay dry for a bit.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 09, 2024, 09:31:05 AM
Dry, on vacation?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 09, 2024, 09:36:37 AM
A bit.  I'll probably have something at dinner.  I'm trying to learn to drink SOME and not get started on A LOT.  I don't get hangovers for some reason, I don't even get tipsy, unless I really drink hard stuff heavy.  A bottle of wine doesn't affect me, even if I have a couple bourbons after that.  Much.  My digestion is impacted.

I gotta cut back.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 09, 2024, 11:47:12 AM
sounds about right
a bottle of wine with dinner to help with digestion and a couple after dinner drinks to help with sleep
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 09, 2024, 01:18:39 PM
Dahl & Di Luca Ristorante Italiano | Sedona, Arizona (dahlanddiluca.com) (https://www.dahlanddiluca.com/menu)

Reserved Sunday night, the prix fixe menu looks like a winner, $85 + $40.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 10, 2024, 02:05:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/i4Tv1wt.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 10, 2024, 02:29:41 PM


You can try the New Mexico Chiles on the Navajo Reservation. 

(https://i2.wp.com/everydaywanderer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/us-nm_chili-pepper_med.jpg?resize=700%2C357&ssl=1)

Take that Cincinnati. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 10, 2024, 02:31:23 PM
I like everything but liver. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 10, 2024, 03:28:26 PM
I like chicken livers. Rumaki is great. Brown's Chicken has awesome fried livers.

Not beef liver though. Yuck. No chance I'm eating that.

Foie gras is amazing. They have it at the French restaurant in town.

The Perfect Caper.

The Perfect Caper – Punta Gorda, FL (https://theperfectcaper.com/)

We often go and split these four things:

(https://i.imgur.com/WtmEVrt.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 10, 2024, 08:16:55 PM
I'm not a fan of Pate, but I'll eat beef liver w/onions
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on August 11, 2024, 08:46:38 AM
Sunday morning solitude in Northern Maine:


(https://i.imgur.com/8dsZtfT.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 11, 2024, 09:37:19 AM
How's the food up there?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 11, 2024, 10:33:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/nTtTTbo.png)

Our view with montgolfiers.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 11, 2024, 01:09:21 PM
Yeah, the Colorado Plateau is about as scenic as it gets. Up top, it doesn't appear to be particularly mountainous. Fairly flat pine forest with some rolling hills. But then every creek that you come across is a miniature version of the Grand Canyon. Or in some instances it's the actual Grand Canyon. 

(https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:464/1*FelseAQH1nrhLpDLZlLvQw.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 11, 2024, 03:16:16 PM
Sedona is xeric.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 11, 2024, 09:29:36 PM
Dahl and silica now. Diluca. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 12, 2024, 09:59:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/GtCJ66d.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 12, 2024, 10:09:26 AM
How was Dahl and DeLuca?

I meant to tell you to ask for Lisa (Dahl). Last time we were there we met with her, and she signed her cookbook for me. 

It's a good one.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 12, 2024, 10:50:16 AM

I discovered this quaint overlook in Kaibab NF north of Jacob Lake, which is the North Rim turnoff. It's the best view of the "Grand Staircase" that you are going to find;  a series of cliffs that are each a different color. Well you can pretty much see all of Southern Utah from that overlook, from Pine Mountain in St George to Navajo mountain out by Lake Powell and everything in between.


(https://dyeclan.com/outdooractivities/funplaces/lefevre-overlook/20220402_125015.jpg)


(https://dyeclan.com/outdooractivities/funplaces/lefevre-overlook/20220402_124855.jpg)

It's a perspective you can't get by actually visiting the monument, where you drive across the entire thing and wonder "where in the Hell is this grand staircase?"
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 12, 2024, 11:48:04 AM
How was Dahl and DeLuca?

I meant to tell you to ask for Lisa (Dahl). Last time we were there we met with her, and she signed her cookbook for me.

It's a good one.
We’re going back Friday. Seated in their alcove off the bar. Ha the price fixe. Prix 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 12, 2024, 11:52:17 AM
What came with the PF?

Glad you enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 12, 2024, 11:56:09 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/v3NE6Nf.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 12, 2024, 07:10:08 PM
Pouring rain this afternoon.  Visited meteor crater. Flagstaff was a bust. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 12, 2024, 09:47:07 PM



This weekend I knocked out Valley of Fire and Lake Mead in Nevada. 


(https://a.cdn-hotels.com/gdcs/production71/d1474/ace3d64b-d7d4-407e-945b-4cb3646f3ba0.jpg)


Valley of Fire was pretty spectacular, but Lake Mead was a ghost town. Using my GPS, the original water level was 1200 feet, but the current water level is 1000 feet. So all the infustructure is like two miles from the current shoreline, rendering it all rather useless. A lot of it was boarded up and shut down. 

Of course the hidden gem of Palm Springs was on the menu, since I was already in the area. 

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.Hj3ZPMnPEqd7m6XfOf4M6AHaJ4?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on August 12, 2024, 09:52:23 PM
Pouring rain this afternoon.  Visited meteor crater. Flagstaff was a bust.
Casino closed?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 13, 2024, 06:02:44 AM
Pouring rain this afternoon.  Visited meteor crater. Flagstaff was a bust.
I was gonna tell you to skip it, but then I thought I should let you decide how to spend your time.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 13, 2024, 07:20:31 AM
hah, thanks for the tip
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on August 13, 2024, 10:42:18 AM
How's the food up there?

We’ve made do with whatever we can heat on the pan over the evening campfire. Burgers and salted cuts of fish that otherwise taste better after a long day on the water or off-roading the logging trails through the remote North Maine Woods.

Something I didn’t think to expect was Canada right across the Saint John River. Yesterday we crossed over into New Brunswick and I was pretty surprised to hear French spoken as the primary tongue among the locals. Figured Quebec was the only French-centric province. Either way, there’s always a few very Canadian details about crossing into Canada. The Maple Leaf outline designed into just about every business logo, the road signs in both English and French, Tim Hortons.



Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 13, 2024, 08:26:45 PM


Like this? 

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IvXOTDT3gjE/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 13, 2024, 10:43:24 PM
I don't remember too many maple trees when I was in Canada

motorcycle trip from Thunder Bay West to Kenora on highway 17, then down to International Falls
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 14, 2024, 08:41:17 AM
Pouring rain this afternoon.  Visited meteor crater. Flagstaff was a bust.
Astronomer Clyde Tombaugh—who worked in the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona—discovered Pluto on February 18, 1930. Tombaugh was only 24 when he found it.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 14, 2024, 09:35:03 PM
Long day up to Horseshoe Bend, Glen Canyon Dam, Antelope Canyon.  Photos soon.

(https://i.imgur.com/XKd3N9D.jpeg)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 14, 2024, 09:36:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/x06ZDMt.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VR1qMIF.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 14, 2024, 09:37:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5WDXR1L.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IlIwaFv.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 14, 2024, 09:39:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/o9vnDpS.jpeg)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 14, 2024, 09:40:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ro7o0On.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 14, 2024, 09:46:43 PM
Horseshoe Bend is sketchy. It's in Glen Canyon, so your parks pass should get you in, but the parking lot is a "city park," so they still charge you. 

There's a cool spot between horseshoe bend and the dam that is a bit of a hidden gem. 


(https://theramblingraccoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Glen-Canyon-Dam-1536x960.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 14, 2024, 10:01:56 PM
Navajo Bridge, between Flagstaff and Page, runs along the boundary of Glen Canyon and Grand Canyon. It features sweeping views of the Vermilion Cliffs.

(https://i.natgeofe.com/n/d811d718-2807-44c9-b2d8-a8f43a889e99/01-navajo-bridge_square.jpg)

From there, there's a road down to Lee's Ferry, which is the launching point for those who want to take the river through the Grand Canyon. 

(https://www.azcentral.com/gcdn/-mm-/127f63e7e3335dbe71d0ef2cd9a5d0b46a09ea76/c=0-183-3600-2217/local/-/media/2018/04/30/Phoenix/Phoenix/636606926710620772-Lees-Ferry005.jpg?width=3200&height=1808&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)

Lee's Ferry also has a beach. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 14, 2024, 10:34:19 PM
We drove Sedona to Flagstaff to Page and didn’t cross that bridge. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 14, 2024, 10:36:06 PM
We crossed this bridge north of Page at the dam.   

(https://i.imgur.com/J0idqOF.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 14, 2024, 10:53:55 PM
Navajo Bridge is at Marble Canyon.  We didn’t go that way. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 16, 2024, 10:56:05 AM

From St George I get to go out one way, and back the other. 

Great loop. Or a figure 8, if you go through Zion on the way out. 

(https://mcr-live.s3.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/route_map_original_images_drupal/map_big_image782.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 16, 2024, 08:30:58 PM
Zion is fantastic.   We spent day in Jerome, AZ.  Highly recommended. Much better than Sedona. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 16, 2024, 11:08:59 PM
decent wine??
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 17, 2024, 09:03:30 AM
No.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 07:39:22 AM
Sedona - Day by Day ... Overall, a decent trip, a few ups and downs.

We got in fairly late on Saturday and I drove the 100 miles or so to Sedona after dark mostly and in the rain.  We got settled in our "suite", which was adequate, really an efficiency with a small kitchen area, which came in handy.  It had a small but nice balcony, but a lot of steps over which to lug one large suitcase.  The rental was a basic Chevy Trailblazer, which used to be a larger "SUV" but now is pretty small, but it was adequate.

Day 2 - Exploration of the resort, and we had a "time share" presentation that got us a $250 gift card to Dahl and DiLuca restaurant, which was worth it I suppose.  We hiked a bit around Cathedral Rock but a storm was coming in.  It was the day after our wedding anniversary, so we had dinner at D&D, the prix fix menu, which ran a bit over $250 before tip.   My wife wanted to return, and we did, the next Friday.  We spent some time in Sedona.  Think of Gatlinburg, it was below expectations for me, a ton of T shirt shops and whatnot, a lot of "crystal" shops where you buy a rock that brings you ... something.  We stopped at some "Mexican" place on the strip for beer and chips, $7.50 for chips and queso and salsa.  Huh.

Day 3 - We drove up Oak Creek Canyon Road towards Flagstaff, interesting, stopped at an overlook where some folks were hawking Indian jewelry, my wife spotted a bracelot she liked.  OK.  Then drove to Meteor Crater, which was $50 to enter with AAA discount.  The visitor center was fairly interesting I thought.  Worth it?  Maybe not.  A storm was coming in and we had to go back inside after viewing the crater.  Drove back down I-17.  We were told this was the "monsoon season", and it kind of was, we hit heavy rain on the way back, almost to the point of having to pull the car off the highway.  Flagstaff is at 7,000 feet elevation, the main RR goes through there.  I turned off where a sign said "Historic Flagstaff" but that was the last sign of anything "historic".  There are a lot of Ponderosa pines south of Flagstaff.

Day 4 - I had arranged a tour of Antelope Canyon up near Page.  That was a long day, it's a drive.  The guide was good, the canyon is "nice", quite short really which was fine.  The Navajo tour guide took the photos with his camera to save time and then Air Dropped them to our group.  We also walked to Horseshoe Bend and the dam, which is interesting for me.  Had an OK lunch in Page.  Long ride back down I-17.  That general area is basically desert..

Day 5 - I had signed us up for a wine tour, that was a total bust, waste of money.  Not only were the wines mediocre, the tasting fees bordered on outrageous to me, and the tour itself was not good at all.  Most of the grapes come from way south and the wines were just OK and priced at $30+.  Nyet.  The tour group got a bit drunk and rowdy, which made it less fun as well.

Day 6 - Back to Dahl, had another nice meal, I had some seafood concoction and a nice bottle of Brunello, my wife had Lamb which was quite good.  Very good service, but got pricey.  I had schedule a star gazing tour that got cancelled, which was just as well.  Most evenings big storm clouds blew in and it rained quite a bit, but not much during the day.

Day 7 - We drove to Jerome, AZ, up in the mountains, an historic copper mining town.  We visited their state historic museum which was quite interesting and then walked around the town, very artsy stuff, more like what I thought Sedona would be.  Bought some things for the wife.  Had a nice lunch.  We talked about returning the next day but didn't.

Day 8 - Visited Red Rock Canyon State Park and hiked a bit.  It was not hot except in the sun the whole time, my wife started showing some signs of heat stress on our hike, so we stopped in the shade to cool off and hydrate, she was fine.  Had an OK lunch at "Cafe Jose" which had high marks and was ... OK.  At left overs for dinner.

Got up early to get back to PHX for flight, which was uneventful, a luggage issue that was a bit annoyng but OK.  Overall, as I said, decent trip, I don't think either of us are angling to go back.  Next month is our trip to Istanbul.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 19, 2024, 08:17:12 AM
sounds like an "OK" trip
worth it, maybe not
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2024, 08:22:55 AM
Unimpressed.
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Post by: utee94 on August 19, 2024, 08:36:48 AM
:))
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 08:37:24 AM
I think it was "worth it" overall, my wife had wanted to see Antelope Canyon for several years.  So, we saw it.  Sometimes you take a trip and it was "pretty OK", but no desire to return.  I had never experienced nothern Arizona outside Page and the GC, so this part was of some note.  I got some decent photos, the red rock area is pretty impressive.  This photo was somehow washed out, the rocks are redder.

(https://i.imgur.com/9lgyhoM.jpeg)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 08:40:06 AM
This is Jerome, not that impressive from the distance, but pretty neat up close.

(https://i.imgur.com/iTF9SlW.jpeg)

Antelope Canyon:

(https://i.imgur.com/6SUz6hD.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2024, 08:40:54 AM
2-3 days in Sedona is enough.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 08:41:53 AM
The entrance, it isn't very long, but quite narrow.  Reminded me a bit of the approach to Petra.

(https://i.imgur.com/j6nhC05.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 08:42:59 AM
They were releasing water we were told to try and kill off eggs of nonindigenous brown trout.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZbrtDir.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 08:44:18 AM
Landscape near Page, AZ:



You can see the canyon of the Colorado:

(https://i.imgur.com/ul8csOx.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/8BypCUk.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 08:46:40 AM
2-3 days in Sedona is enough.
Actually, as you said earlier, one day was enough for Sedona, that is about the time we spent in town.  The area around Sedona was interesting, to me, and the resort where we stayed was decent.  This is the road through Oak Creek Canyon from overlook:

(https://i.imgur.com/ja298sK.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 08:47:53 AM
This was the view from out balcony, it was small but adequate for two:

(https://i.imgur.com/0zLrXVO.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 19, 2024, 11:06:31 AM
Unimpressed.
Maybe we should change the title of this thread to Travels and Unimpressions
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Post by: utee94 on August 19, 2024, 11:07:07 AM
Maybe we should change the title of this thread to Travels and Unimpressions
:043:
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 11:23:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/yKfTwH3.jpeg)
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 19, 2024, 11:46:33 AM
Looks like a pretty sweet trip to me. Not Euro enough? 
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
There were ups and downs, the downs weren't bad.  This was our meal the 2nd time at D&D:

(https://i.imgur.com/vy4A6Qr.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FpOVR81.jpeg)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 11:58:10 AM
This is a wine bar in Jerome, it was quiet, I had a glass of some rose:

(https://i.imgur.com/aturusR.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 19, 2024, 12:01:09 PM
This is the state historic museum in Jerome, that building in the background was a something called The Little Daisy:

Home | The Little Daisy (thelittledaisyjerome.com) (https://thelittledaisyjerome.com/)

(https://i.imgur.com/WAY7gQF.jpeg)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2024, 12:55:29 PM
There were ups and downs, the downs weren't bad.  This was our meal the 2nd time at D&D:

(https://i.imgur.com/vy4A6Qr.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FpOVR81.jpeg)


Really a fantastic restaurant.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 19, 2024, 04:59:32 PM
too fantastic for my wallet
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2024, 06:20:42 AM
too fantastic for my wallet
Same with a C8.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: bayareabadger on August 20, 2024, 06:25:55 AM
There were ups and downs, the downs weren't bad.  This was our meal the 2nd time at D&D:

(https://i.imgur.com/vy4A6Qr.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FpOVR81.jpeg)


Did you like the dungeons better? Or the dragons?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 20, 2024, 07:54:33 AM
Heh, the mushrooms were really good, the server said they marinated them in soy sauce (!), wine, and olive oil and then grilled them.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on August 30, 2024, 08:25:34 AM
Starting from November 2024, if you're an American, you should expect to get fingerprinted and registered upon crossing the European border, and there's just no getting around it:

https://www.traveloffpath.com/americans-will-have-to-get-fingerprinted-and-registered-traveling-to-europe-from-november/ (https://www.traveloffpath.com/americans-will-have-to-get-fingerprinted-and-registered-traveling-to-europe-from-november/)

As confirmed by Ylva Johansson, the European Union Commissioner, the much-delayed Entry-Exit System (EES) of the European Union will launch on November 10 in an attempt to modernize the continent's borders and strengthen security.

The EES is hardly a novelty–we've been reporting on it extensively over the past three years–but this is the first time the EU commissioner herself has confirmed a start date following multiple setbacks.

In case you're still wondering what the EES entails, it refers to a biometric system that will use a traveler's digital photograph, personal information and fingerprints to control their border movements, as well as their length of stay.

In general, Americans can only remain in the continent, or more specifically, the 29-country Schengen Area for 90 days out of any 180-day period; this means any time spent in any participating country counts towards the established limit.

For example, if you're traveling long term and staying in Italy for a whole month, savoring your way through the southern Puglia region and going on a museum haul across the cultural hotspots of Florence and Rome, you'll then only have 60 days to travel around 28 other Schengen countries.

As you should know by now if you've ever flown across the pond, European border officials continue to stamp passports of foreign arrivals, and those timed entries are usually their only indication as to how long an individual has remained in the Schengen territories.


What Changes From November 10?
‘When that happens, it will be goodbye to passport stamping, hello to digital checks for all passengers from outside the EU‘, noted Johansson.

In effect, Americans––as well as all other non-European travelers––will be required to have their biometric data registered landing in Europe starting from November 10, with the information being stored in a database for three years.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on August 30, 2024, 09:19:40 AM
Yesterday, given our trip to Istanbul comes soon, my wife and I got flu and updated Pfizer COVID shots.  I didn't feel any after effects.  We'll be near a lot of folks during the trip, it seemed prudent to me.

We have a 6 hour layover in Paris which is a bummer.  I guess I might sleep, there is a fairly steep price to get into the Air France lounge there and we're not included with our Delta membership.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 09, 2024, 11:15:25 AM
We're off to Istanbul Wednesday for a week and a bit.  I've heard from several folks that it's a really interesting place, and we've watched a few videos.  Our Turkish friend will join us with two others we know.  My wife got some "multipasses" for various sites.  Leeloo.

One issue is we have a 6:45 Am return flight, another is a near 6 hour stay in Paris at CDG.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on September 09, 2024, 01:49:09 PM
We're off to Istanbul Wednesday for a week and a bit.  I've heard from several folks that it's a really interesting place, and we've watched a few videos.  Our Turkish friend will join us with two others we know.  My wife got some "multipasses" for various sites.  Leeloo.

One issue is we have a 6:45 Am return flight, another is a near 6 hour stay in Paris at CDG.
Going to Istanbul for a couple of days in May.  Let me know your must sees.  Certainly going to see the Hagia Sophia and the Grand Bazaar. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 09, 2024, 01:59:27 PM
We're doing a cruise on the Bospherus, our friend said that was a thing to do.  There also is a Blue Mosque and some large museum.  I hope to have lunch at the Galata Bridge, my friend says the fish is quite something there.


Galata Bridge - Istanbul's most famous bridge (introducingistanbul.com) (https://www.introducingistanbul.com/galata-bridge)

Blue Mosque - The most important mosque in Istanbul (introducingistanbul.com) (https://www.introducingistanbul.com/blue-mosque)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on September 09, 2024, 02:25:17 PM

One issue is we have a 6:45 Am return flight, another is a near 6 hour stay in Paris at CDG.
Knowing how things are, you'll still barely make your connection even with 6 hours.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 09, 2024, 02:27:24 PM
We've traveled from here to Paris many times and I don't recall ever having a delay or any consequence.  The weather here should be good.  Delta runs 4 or 5 flights a day from here to CDG.

I'm hoping to get into the AF Lounge though I expect it's expensive for us.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2024, 03:43:03 PM
     Best Healdsburg Budget Wineries 2024

  https://healdsburgisheavenly.com/best-healdsburg-budget-wineries/ (https://healdsburgisheavenly.com/best-healdsburg-budget-wineries/) 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 11, 2024, 06:00:27 PM
On the plane on time.  9/11.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2024, 06:01:01 PM
Travel safe!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 12, 2024, 12:40:53 AM
Arrived in Air France lounge at CDG.   Very nice. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 12, 2024, 01:19:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/kFWWn3S.png)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2024, 10:03:58 AM
Been to four of these places. All great. Twin Anchors.. mmmm.

12 Restaurants Frank Sinatra Loved Across The US (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/12-restaurants-frank-sinatra-loved-across-the-us/ar-BB1irqLA?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=951667a1e393421885b8ce024f894a83&ei=14)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on September 12, 2024, 10:24:52 AM
I've been to zero of them.  Seems like ol' fearless Frankie didn't spend much time in Texico.

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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 12, 2024, 10:33:23 AM
I've been to zero of them.  Seems like ol' fearless Frankie didn't spend much time in Texico.
Also zero, despite spending most of my life in either Chicago or SoCal. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2024, 10:43:08 AM
look kinda pricey for this Frankie
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Post by: Cincydawg on September 12, 2024, 10:40:56 PM
Istanbul so far is unimpressive.  
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Post by: longhorn320 on September 12, 2024, 10:44:47 PM
Istanbul so far is unimpressive. 
It was better when it was Constantinople
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 12, 2024, 11:28:06 PM
Watch out for  the bull charge. 

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhdXxk4IHeY_kq0PqsByvpbbueo16QoVnX7DnzHzB3degMBXfe896cn8BG1hh4tP9rr6B_4uthC1v044-j_qwm7DQNhM3_6PxxxEQV0jcPOKpXRtN54VKTbYIJzpYj5A8zydmOfD0hW-Go/s1600/po29.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 13, 2024, 08:13:33 AM
Istanbul so far is unimpressive. 
Glad it's on my "do not go" list.
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Post by: Cincydawg on September 13, 2024, 08:15:47 AM
Streets are very crowded and dirty
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 13, 2024, 08:27:38 AM
Shoulda went to New York. Much cheaper and same time zone.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on September 13, 2024, 11:15:34 AM
It was better when it was Constantinople
Not when it was Byzantium 
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Post by: Cincydawg on September 16, 2024, 10:41:38 AM
Some interesting things here.  Took a boat ride today up the Bos.   
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 16, 2024, 11:14:39 AM
very crowded and dirty boat ride?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 16, 2024, 11:25:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/j3bi1n1.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 16, 2024, 11:26:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YVeNIha.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 16, 2024, 11:26:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9iuQknd.png)
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Post by: Cincydawg on September 16, 2024, 11:27:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/BbO8Mld.png)
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Post by: Cincydawg on September 16, 2024, 11:28:34 AM
View at dinner last night   

(https://i.imgur.com/j29vll1.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 16, 2024, 11:30:01 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/FtDfVuI.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 16, 2024, 11:34:53 AM
what was for dinner?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 16, 2024, 11:52:11 AM
what was for dinner?
Turkey.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 16, 2024, 11:53:08 AM
Fish of some sort and Sauvignon blanc.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 17, 2024, 02:01:55 AM
Off to see something I can’t pronounce. 

Had to turn back, toe is a problem.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 17, 2024, 08:29:22 AM
bummer
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 17, 2024, 11:57:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/zhaRjJZ.png)

View from our restaurant. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 17, 2024, 11:59:13 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/012NWFC.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Rp7WZBz.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 18, 2024, 07:42:13 AM
If you're coming into Omaha for the CWS, Husker football, a sharkwater party, or some volleyball

(https://i.imgur.com/FuOx0Xo.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 18, 2024, 08:37:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vdxTS44.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 18, 2024, 08:38:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HUK2yzb.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 18, 2024, 08:38:55 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/p6v8We7.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2024, 04:57:08 AM
My wife grabbed her French passport by mistake.  No good.  We are in Paris.  She may yet make our flight.  Maybe.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2024, 06:43:40 AM
She got her visa but we board soon.  Security checks are very slow. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2024, 03:51:44 PM
We made it.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 21, 2024, 05:47:29 AM
I'm awake for some reason after 26 hours of flying and waiting.  Istanbul is "interesting".  I'm not sure what to say about it, it's third world in many aspects.  Some of the stuff is amazing, my highlight was the Basica Sistern, a truly massive underground cavern built by the "Romans" to store water for a city that has no rivers.  I enjoyed the boat ride as well up the Bosperous.  We got a glimpse of the Black Sea. 

There is a downtown commercial area with modern tall buildings we didn't visit.  The airport is very large and modern and quite a ways from city center.  We stayed in the "Old Town" and walked everywhere.  Any street other than a main one is coblestones and the sidewalks are often disrupted with holes or pieces of concrete laying about.  Traffis is, well, insane, and you have to watch out as a pedestrian for taxis and scooters and motor bikes.  

We were advised not to drink tap water even though the motel is 6 months old.  I ingested a bit and had very mild diarrhea, nothing major.  Dining out is pricey, a simple lunch would be $60-70.  The food mostly is in the OK range, every place serves the same stuff unless you step up a bit.  Inflation is horrible.  A 200 Turkish Lira note is worth about $3. 

We met some Turks and got to know them a bit, they are very friendly, they do try and sell stuff to you of course.  If you don't buy, it's OK with them.  There are a TON of shops around of course often with no one buying and the salespeople not looking concerned about it.  The streets in places are very crowded with locals.  The Old City is of course touristy.

Our boat ride up the Bosperus stopped in a village for lunch.  We had maybe 100 tourists on the boat and there were probably 20 pretty large restaurants there with table cloths overlooking the Bosperus.  The one we chose had maybe 40 tables and 3 occupied.  I have no clue how they stay in business, our friend said they get maybe two tourist boats a day in season, and no locals there can afford to dine out.  We walked around the village a bit, there wasn't much to see.

Turks smoke, a lot, to the point even the streets smell like smoke.  The shop owner often is standing outside his place smoking seemingly unconcerned that he has no customers.  They don't jump on you if you show interest, but if you stay a minute, they will order tea or Turkish coffee for you, it's a tradition I was told.  And you feel compelled to buy something.

We spoke twice with one shop owner, Abdulah,  who sells scarfs, very nice ones.  We talked about religion.  I ended up overpaying for some scarfs and he came running after me to return 200 lira.  He said honesty was important in Islam.  We returned the next day and bought some more for gifts, he was a nice man.  We also bought some rugs and jewelry from a set of stores owned by a family.  The rug salesman comes here each year and said he was including two more pretty expensive rugs in our shipment on "consignment".  He said if I didn't want them, he'd come by and pick them up.  He wouldn't give me a price.  They are gorgeous, my wife doesn't know about them.  The first small rug we liked he said was $7500, handmade silk etc.  We ended up buying it for $2200, but then he bought us lunch (so we over paid).  We returned the next day and he and I had raki together.  He said they had been badly hurt by the Ukrainian war because Russians couldn't visit with the same amount of money as before.  I bougght some more cheaper rugs.  Ha.  He's a great salesman.  The rugs are pieces of art.

I'll post some more photos later probably.  I liked the Turks and feel compassion that their government does such a poor job for them.  As for security, I never felt any threat even at night from anything.  I'd call it a safe country/city to visit.  My wife is more alert in France about theft than we were in Istanbul, by far.  The best part was spending some time with locals chatting about their lives and conditions.  They seem upbeat even with conditions being so poor overall.  

We visited three mosques, including the Hagia Sofia.  They are huge and impressive.  The former has murals somewhat damaged of Jesus and Mary and John the Baptist and some emperors that had been covered up and were restored.  The most impressive item was the Basica Sistern, a huge underground water storage area over 1600 years old.  Muslims don't believe in such depictions for their prophets.  Attire entering a mosque there is pretty relaxed.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 21, 2024, 10:35:10 AM
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 22, 2024, 08:42:32 AM
"The Roadtrippers road trip planner helps you discover, book, and create travel itineraries of the best places and experiences along the way."

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 27, 2024, 06:48:57 PM
A person standing on Heaven's Gate Lookout in Idaho can see Washington, Montana, and Oregon.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 27, 2024, 07:15:06 PM
Went to Park City this summer. Nice place.

For the golfers in the crowd, would you buy a house on a golf course? Why/why not?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 27, 2024, 07:20:10 PM
I'd love to have a house on the course

I've been lookin for the right one

leaving my clubs on my cart in my garage and driving onto the course thru my back yard would save time be VERY convenient.

having a few beers on the course and after at the clubhouse and not worrying about driving the car home on the highway would be nice

if the clubhouse had some decent food options, that's a bonus!

Also, if your yard is located along the course in the right area, you'd never have to buy another golf ball.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 27, 2024, 07:22:47 PM
Also, if your yard is located along the course in the right area, you'd never have to buy another golf ball.
Window replacement budget might go up. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on September 27, 2024, 07:24:13 PM
yes sir, that can be addressed
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on September 27, 2024, 07:42:08 PM
A person standing on Heaven's Gate Lookout in Idaho can see Washington, Montana, and Oregon.
Grab the the field glasses and try to spot DB Cooper's money or his body. I'll split the loot with you 😎
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 27, 2024, 08:15:17 PM
Speaking of the window budget, whose responsibility is a broken window and why?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 28, 2024, 09:37:38 AM
Speaking of the window budget, whose responsibility is a broken window and why?
No clue, but I think it's on the homeowner.

We live on a golf course here, but there is basically zero chance a ball would ever touch us. We overlook the 7th tee and you would have to hit the ball backwards or sideways to hit our place. And if you did, you'd hit the pool cage. And if your missile of a ball managed to penetrate that, it would hit hurricane windows.

I think we're good.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on September 28, 2024, 09:40:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9iUyW4R.png)

This area is worth a visit for several reasons.  We have stayed in Caen once, and Bayeux three nights at an exceptional "castle" turned hotel. Bayeux was bypassed in the war so is intact, while St. Lo and Caen were almost leveled.  The division numbers are incorrect in the graphic.  Omaha was assaulted by the 1st and 29th divisions, Utah by the 4th  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 28, 2024, 11:08:07 AM
No clue, but I think it's on the homeowner.

We live on a golf course here, but there is basically zero chance a ball would ever touch us. We overlook the 7th tee and you would have to hit the ball backwards or sideways to hit our place. And if you did, you'd hit the pool cage. And if your missile of a ball managed to penetrate that, it would hit hurricane windows.

I think we're good.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/d4zHnLjdy48Cc/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9523nfqizahrfzr8fe0top2c9jq0g3fbh3nfs64l046&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 05, 2024, 04:03:48 AM
Got my first ever experience driving a Skoda. How wonderful :57:

First time actually driving outside the US with the exception of Canada. First time driving a right-hand drive vehicle, and driving on the left side of the road. And since it is a manual transmission, the first time that I've had to shift entirely left-handed. 

We landed in Dublin but our first day was a trip across the entire country to the Cliffs of Moher, followed by a drive from there to Killarney where we're staying the first few days. We're hoping to do the Ring of Kerry today but the weather report looks dicey, so we're trying to figure out over the next 1-2 hours whether or not to chance it. 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 07, 2024, 11:58:54 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/XDqchdZ.jpeg)
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Post by: SFBadger96 on October 07, 2024, 12:02:18 PM
Incidentally, don't assume a broken window on a fairway-built home is the homeowner's responsibility. Probably depends on the state you are in, but speaking from an unfortunate recent experience, it might well be the golfer's.
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Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2024, 01:16:49 PM
fairway-built home is the homeowner's responsibility in my book

shouldn't have built the home in that location
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Post by: SFBadger96 on October 07, 2024, 01:36:07 PM
I agree, but my homeowners insurance company doesn't. At least it's a covered event. Sigh.
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Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2024, 01:38:22 PM
I've hit more than a few houses in my golfing career

I don't knock on the door to offer to pay for damage
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 07, 2024, 01:52:30 PM
I don't worry about golf balls. I worry about other projectiles.

Just took a Xanax.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on October 07, 2024, 03:30:34 PM
I've hit more than a few houses in my golfing career

I don't knock on the door to offer to pay for damage
Homeowner was sitting in her fairway facing yard when it happened. Sigh.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2024, 03:33:01 PM
I would have just smiled and waved as I went by in the golf cart

she can keep the ball for her trouble
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 08, 2024, 06:57:24 PM
My daughter filled the animal bingo card in about 8 hours at Yellowstone this week.  Though the grizzly we saw was actually outside the park.  Saw some huge Big horn sheep roadside which is usually more of a winter sight to see them so close.

I've been to the park about 50 times, and renew my claim that there is no better time to go than October. 

Nobody's there, save some Asian tourist buses and a few Euros.  Aspens are gorgeous, temps are perfect.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 16, 2024, 08:01:02 AM
I don't worry about golf balls. I worry about other projectiles.

Just took a Xanax.
I was narrowly missed by a golf ball on my last scooter ride. I looked over towards where it came from, and there was no one there. Must've been hiding in the bushes. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 16, 2024, 08:13:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/OEYCmB8.jpeg)

Amicalola Falls, the top of it.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 16, 2024, 08:14:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DpolOZQ.jpeg)

From the bottom.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 16, 2024, 08:15:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Tqm13FM.jpeg)

View from the lodge. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 16, 2024, 08:17:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/WP9ZQHX.png)

The comet that night. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 16, 2024, 01:27:48 PM
We took a relaxing two night vacation up into the north Georgia mountains (photos).  Stopped at two state parks, spent the night at one.  A lot of state parks are really nice, usually not as breath taking as NPs, but still very nice and worth visiting.

We spent the second night in Dahlonega, a small town my wife likes (me too).  It's famous for an early gold rush, you can still pan for gold there if you want.  "Thar's gold in them thar hills."   Some of the small mountain towns have figured out how to attract tourists, and some remain pretty threadbare and uninteresting.

My wife wanted to get home before "traffic", which indeed gets ridiculous the way we came back.  It was fine this time of day, heavy but moving.  Those outter suburbs really have to be self contained, I doubt many residents come into the city for much of anything ever.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:26:27 PM
Cliffs of Moher

(https://i.imgur.com/pLDQq9V.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jpYTPPh.jpeg)

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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:28:07 PM
Torc Waterfall

More impressive in person, especially the day after heavy rains. 

(https://i.imgur.com/QnjN1Md.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:28:58 PM
Couldn't quite catch the leprechaun and snag that pot o' gold...

(https://i.imgur.com/gI2ms3l.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:30:10 PM
Muckross Abbey. Very cool/unique place...

(https://i.imgur.com/ZEEmXdm.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:31:06 PM
Ross Castle

(https://i.imgur.com/oXJRPWq.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:33:01 PM
The Kilmainham Gaol (prison). One of the most interesting things I saw on the entire trip. I didn't really know the history of the many attempts at independence for the Irish, and how many of the various protagonists throughout history ended up here. Again, pictures don't do it justice...

(https://i.imgur.com/CLqdne0.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:35:48 PM
Well you know I can't go to Ireland without some of MY sites...

(https://i.imgur.com/RmSqcgm.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Di2Eyaz.jpeg)


(https://i.imgur.com/5a9yXwv.jpeg)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:37:58 PM
Got to play golf with my wife's stepdad, the guy who got me back into the game when we decided to staycation up in Oregon with them in 2020 during COVID. 

(https://i.imgur.com/GinxLqT.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/leumDYb.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2El03Xe.jpeg)

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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:41:42 PM
The Long Hall library at Trinity College where they host the Book of Kells

(https://i.imgur.com/24Qsslm.jpeg)

And St Patrick's Cathedral. Not my most interesting stop... 

(https://i.imgur.com/271aulf.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2024, 06:59:57 PM
We're hoping to do the Ring of Kerry today but the weather report looks dicey, so we're trying to figure out over the next 1-2 hours whether or not to chance it.
BTW the follow up on this was that we decided that we didn't want to chance the weather. So... We found a pub :72:

And we're chatting with the bartender, who said we probably shouldn't do the Ring of Kerry. "Well, in this weather, you probably wouldn't really be able to see anything anyway. Oh, and you might die."

I guess it was a good choice to skip it. Definitely the one thing that I'm sad we missed the opportunity though. 
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Post by: FearlessF on October 16, 2024, 09:27:56 PM
and if you skipped it... you could stay at the bar and live long enough to run up a tab
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Post by: utee94 on October 17, 2024, 03:55:37 PM
Looks like a great trip bwar!
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 18, 2024, 02:08:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nmENOcK.png)

This is a place to visit if you can make it to Normandy.  It is very sobering, and beautiful.  Colleville-Sur-Mer.  The twin flag poles fly Old Glory, you can't see it in this photo.  
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Post by: LetsGoPeay on October 18, 2024, 02:50:25 PM
The Kilmainham Gaol (prison). One of the most interesting things I saw on the entire trip. I didn't really know the history of the many attempts at independence for the Irish, and how many of the various protagonists throughout history ended up here. Again, pictures don't do it justice...

(https://i.imgur.com/CLqdne0.jpeg)


Kind of looks like Shawshank.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 18, 2024, 04:19:03 PM
Kind of looks like Shawshank.
I thought the exact same thing when I walked into that room...

They pointed out that there's a good reason for that... That section (built well after much of the rest of the prison) was a specific prison design heavily used elsewhere:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 21, 2024, 07:38:50 AM
Black Elk Peak in South Dakota

(https://i.imgur.com/qIEAkW9.jpeg)
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Post by: Riffraft on October 21, 2024, 09:26:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2tbNXx6.png)In central mass relaxing [img width=258.328 height=281]https://i.imgur.com/2tbNXx6.png[/img]
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 30, 2024, 11:21:58 PM
I travel Boston a fair amount for work related matters.  Know the city fairly well, always enjoy my trips,  though one thing I had never done is visit TD Garden.  I went to the Bruins game last night.    bought a pretty good seat, yet totally on-brand for Boston,  the seats are designed for short people.  The dude next to me was about my 6-1 frame, and it's a sardine can.  Boston is a dense town, I get it, but there's never enough leg room anywhere.  hotel rooms are small, (ex. Parker House Hotel, the door to the bathroom hits the toilet), Fenway's got notoriously awful leg room.    uncanny.    a not very good Flyers team shut out the totally uninspired Bruins 2-0 (empty netter with less than a minute).

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on October 31, 2024, 09:28:11 AM
I'm only 5'10" and getting shorter
I'd like to go to Fenway
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Post by: utee94 on October 31, 2024, 10:00:32 AM
Fenway is awesome.  A true cathedral of the sport.  Don't tell Cubbies fans but I like it (slightly) better than Wrigley Field.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on October 31, 2024, 11:56:11 PM
Fenway is indeed marvelous.

I feel Wrigley has about 50% bad seats that i would not consider.  Fenway about 25%.  I feel their renovation has markedly made it better than Wrigley, which i feel I need to revisit again after it's own renovation to judge again. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 01, 2024, 08:02:43 AM
I could do that

a buddy of mine wants to take a golf/baseball trip

golf in the morning/afternoon and take in a ballgame in a different ballpark in the afternoon/evening
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 05, 2024, 08:31:06 AM
Worked in Atlanta last week. First observation is just how many sports bars are all over the metro area. Only Boston seems to have a noticeably higher concentration of sports bars. I was taken out as a client several evenings through the week, and each different sports bar was busy by about 6pm. Inside most everybody seemed to know each other, meaning the 'regulars' culture is strong. And a big portion of patrons were made up of working class Blacks getting off of work, catching up, and talking all things Falcons and Georgia Bulldogs.

Through the week I stayed in a hotel right near the airport. After finishing up little early on Friday I took a walk and came across a few uncommon businesses. First was Crew Outfitters - a store dedicated to pilot and stewardess uniform sales, mostly for Delta Air employees.

The next was a mortuary specializing in organizing the return of Americans who happen to pass away while overseas. I never would've thought of this as a needed business, but about five years ago I was working in the Balkans and an older technician from South Carolina died of a sudden heart attack on one of our construction sites. The government in Belgrade worked with the U.S. Embassy there to coordinate flying his body back to the States, and I guess a business like this would've received their call to arrange the details.

They are businesses you wouldn't think of on your own, but you realize their location makes sense near the Atlanta Airport - the World's busiest by passenger traffic volume since 1998.

Crew Outfitters next to a Chic-Fil-A Catering & Delivering Wholesaler:
(https://i.imgur.com/DVOXLtB.png)

Airport Mortuary Shipping Services:
(https://i.imgur.com/6oLj9XF.png)
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Post by: Cincydawg on November 05, 2024, 08:36:02 AM
We do have a lot of sports bars here.  The food is mostly prosaic, often the appeal is a lot of beers on tap and a lot of TVs.  I also see a fair number of regular restaurants that later on add TVs, not the better ones, but the midlevel ones.  There are a ton of college fans from the midwest and several sports bars are used by them for specific teams, informally I guess, so you have 4-5-6 "Ohio State" sports bars.  I went to one near me and it was full of Wisconsin fans on game day, another one a while back was full of Army and Navy fans they were pretty fun.

The mortuary above is interesting to me as my wife has stated she wants to be buried in France.  She says she'd like me to consider it as well.  It's an odd topic to me.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on November 05, 2024, 08:44:22 AM
Why would she want to be buried in France if she doesn't want to live there?
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Post by: Cincydawg on November 05, 2024, 09:06:27 AM
Why would she want to be buried in France if she doesn't want to live there?
They have family plots there.  It's important to her.  The plots are multiple, different from here, they can have 20 coffins in one plot (or more).

My sister is in the Georgia Military Cemetery because her second husband was in the Army (Vietnam).  He was a very very neat guy, I liked him a lot.  My father is in the same cemetery as is my mother.  I of course am not eligible.  It's in a beautiful location, if that matters, atop a hill in view of the mountains.

Georgia National Cemetery - National Cemetery Administration (va.gov) (https://www.cem.va.gov/cems/nchp/georgia.asp)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 05, 2024, 10:38:10 AM
The mortuary business is just odd to me. I mean, it's a needed business, and SOMEBODY has to do it, but don't you have to be a little screwy in the head to go into that line of work? I don't think a lot of kids grow up saying "I'm going to be a mortician when I grow up!" But I guess the ones you do, you watch closely and if they don't become serial killers, you just be thankful they jump on that grenade for society...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 05, 2024, 10:39:41 AM
As for my final life's travel, I expect it to be my cremated remains, spread with my wife's, either in the rose garden where we got married in Italy, or at the top of Haleakala... Unless we come up with something better in the [hopefully] many decades before it is a thing. 

The last thing I want to do is have my corpse take up valuable real estate. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 05, 2024, 11:10:41 AM
In some states, it's illegal to spread ashes in a public space, or so I've been told.  I think if one went out by oneself somewhere rural, it would not be enforced.

I wonder how many morticians go into that trade because their dad did it.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on November 05, 2024, 11:12:13 AM
As for my final life's travel, I expect it to be my cremated remains, spread with my wife's, either in the rose garden where we got married in Italy, or at the top of Haleakala... Unless we come up with something better in the [hopefully] many decades before it is a thing.

The last thing I want to do is have my corpse take up valuable real estate.
Same.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on November 05, 2024, 12:13:41 PM
Booked our honeymoon cruise and all our excursions. The itinerary:

12/28 - Sail out of Tampa - I love going out of Tampa and sailing under the Sunshine Skyway Bridge. Such a cool experience. 
12/29 - Sea day - I like having a sea day on the first day to just chill and enjoy the amenities on the ship before jumping into all the ports of call.
12/30 - Cozumel - I booked a VIP cabana package at Mr. Sancho's Beach Club. The perfect chill and be spoiled on the beach day. 
12/31 - Roatan - A visit to the sloth and monkey sanctuary then some snorkeling.
1/1 - Belize - Cave tubing with Charlie's Cave Tubing Tours. He's a local guy who was one of the first to do the cave tubing excursions. He only takes small groups and makes it a personal experience. This will be the second time I've done a tour with him. I can't recommend him enough if you're in Belize.
1/2 - Puerto Costa Maya - Booked a trip to the Chankanaab pyramids with an afternoon at the Bacalar lagoon. 
1/3 - Sea Day - A nice lazy day before having to return to reality. 
1/4 - Disembarkation and a return to the real world.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on November 05, 2024, 01:10:55 PM
Nice trip.

I love sea days, which is why I'm looking at this trip next November, on the Oceana Vista.

1. Starts in Barcelona. 
2. Alicante, Spain.
3. Malaga, Spain.
4. At sea.
5. Funchal (Madeira) Portugal (island).
6-11. At sea.
12. San Juan, PR.
13-14. At sea.
15. Miami.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 05, 2024, 01:12:40 PM
Our cruise in March starts in Seoul and ends in Qatar.  I have to pay for that sucker in a few days, and then sort out excursions.  We will have circumnavigated the globe.
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Post by: Riffraft on November 05, 2024, 01:20:22 PM
Booked our honeymoon cruise and all our excursions. The itinerary:

12/28 - Sail out of Tampa - I love going out of Tampa and sailing under the Sunshine Skyway Bridge. Such a cool experience.
12/29 - Sea day - I like having a sea day on the first day to just chill and enjoy the amenities on the ship before jumping into all the ports of call.
12/30 - Cozumel - I booked a VIP cabana package at Mr. Sancho's Beach Club. The perfect chill and be spoiled on the beach day.
12/31 - Roatan - A visit to the sloth and monkey sanctuary then some snorkeling.
1/1 - Belize - Cave tubing with Charlie's Cave Tubing Tours. He's a local guy who was one of the first to do the cave tubing excursions. He only takes small groups and makes it a personal experience. This will be the second time I've done a tour with him. I can't recommend him enough if you're in Belize.
1/2 - Puerto Costa Maya - Booked a trip to the Chankanaab pyramids with an afternoon at the Bacalar lagoon.
1/3 - Sea Day - A nice lazy day before having to return to reality.
1/4 - Disembarkation and a return to the real world.

I am booked on a cruise with same itinerary in January
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Post by: LetsGoPeay on November 05, 2024, 01:24:00 PM
I am booked on a cruise with same itinerary in January
Royal Caribbean? That's what we're on. Radiance of the Seas.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on November 05, 2024, 01:29:34 PM
My current view looking over cabo
[img width=258.333 height=281]https://i.imgur.com/5tk7cEg.png[/img]
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on November 05, 2024, 01:32:33 PM
Royal Caribbean? That's what we're on. Radiance of the Seas.
No we are on ncl but the same stops as yours. We have done these particular stops on 2 previous cruises.  You should enjoy it
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 05, 2024, 01:35:44 PM
This couple plan to return to the US after their dream life in France became a ‘nightmare’ | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/travel/us-couple-dream-life-france-became-nightmare/index.html)

Suffice it say, I think these folks are kooks.  She couldn't find decent produce?  She's an idiot.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on November 05, 2024, 01:36:14 PM
I've been to Roatan, Belize, and Cozumel before. Costa Maya is a new one for me. I'm pretty excited about the pyramids.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on November 05, 2024, 01:59:04 PM
As for my final life's travel, I expect it to be my cremated remains, spread with my wife's, either in the rose garden where we got married in Italy, or at the top of Haleakala... Unless we come up with something better in the [hopefully] many decades before it is a thing.

The last thing I want to do is have my corpse take up valuable real estate.
Tough to come up with better options. What part of Italy?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 05, 2024, 03:44:29 PM
Tough to come up with better options. What part of Italy?
Florence. 

I kinda wanted to do it in the Cinque Terre, but it was offseason there and it just seemed like it was going to be impossible. So we did it on our last day in Italy (going Rome->Cinque Terre->Florence) and then honeymooned in Paris. 

There are worse things in life :57:
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on November 06, 2024, 12:04:15 PM
I used to not care at all what becomes of my physical remains. After a family member passed away that changed. It's not that I care what becomes of what's left of me--I don't (cremate and dispose)--but I do want my family to have somewhere to go that they associate with me. How's this for a sick thought: it's a little like returning to Camp Randall in the fall. I'm perfectly happy watching the Badgers on TV (or not), but there is a set of emotions that go with being there--and it being a place people want to be, or at least want a reason to return to. 

So this family member of mine had her name added to a "family" plot in a city that most of us will never have a reason to return to. And it's a distant branch of the family to which I feel like we have tenuous connections. Why? Who will ever go there and remember her and how she was a part of our lives? I would like my family to see my name somewhere and think about who I was and what role I had in their lives. But I don't want to take up a lot of space, because in two to three generations, I won't have any lasting legacy, nothing more than a soundbyte and not one that has much real meaning. I'm fine with that, but in the meantime, I want my kids, potential grandkids, and maybe even great grandkids to think about me. 

So I guess I really do care. I want my name on a marker of some kind, but it can be rather insignificant, alongside my wife's name, somewhere relatively close to the city my wife and I live in. And I'd like a bit of my ashes sprinkled in the Emmigrant Wilderness in the Stanislaus National Forest in California.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 06, 2024, 12:28:40 PM
I have a hard time with cemeteries, and funerals.  I attended a few when I was a kid, grandparents.  I didn't really get it.  Now that folks "close to me" are passing on, it has reminders I often have to put in a drawer to function.  I sat by my brother in law's flag draped coffin and just cried.

He was a very fine fellow.  But the reminder was stark.

My wife thinks I should tell me kids to do something, and I think she's correct.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 06, 2024, 12:47:25 PM
Places I've been where I'd like to return someday:

Glacier NP - We were there but it was cloudy and the GTTS road was not open.

Zion NP - I really like that place.

Mauna Kea - Been up twice, the second time was snowy/cloudy.  The first time was epic.

Lyon, France - Been thrice, I like the place. 

Bayeux, France - Stayed there three nights, really an interesting area for me.

Beartooth Pass road.

Athens, Greece.

Guardsmans Pass - Utah, in fall.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 06, 2024, 02:29:09 PM
Zion shuts down the shuttle service in December, and you can just drive your car right up to the narrows and park. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on November 06, 2024, 03:08:07 PM
Earlier view outside mazatlan
(https://i.imgur.com/rNMRfRw.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on November 06, 2024, 04:48:04 PM
Places I've been where I'd like to return someday:

Glacier NP - We were there but it was cloudy and the GTTS road was not open.

Zion NP - I really like that place.

Mauna Kea - Been up twice, the second time was snowy/cloudy.  The first time was epic.

Lyon, France - Been thrice, I like the place. 

Bayeux, France - Stayed there three nights, really an interesting area for me.

Beartooth Pass road.

Athens, Greece.

Guardsmans Pass - Utah, in fall.
Great list. Zion and Glacier are two of the more spectacular places I've been. I'm partial to Haleakala over the Big Island's volcanos, but they are all grand.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 06, 2024, 04:56:19 PM
I want to spend more time in

Barcelona
Amsterdam
Sicily
Tuscany
Sardinia
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on November 06, 2024, 05:03:32 PM
Florence.

I kinda wanted to do it in the Cinque Terre, but it was offseason there and it just seemed like it was going to be impossible. So we did it on our last day in Italy (going Rome->Cinque Terre->Florence) and then honeymooned in Paris.

There are worse things in life :57:
That's awesome.. Certainly worse things in life. I've been to so many places in the world.. yet never Europe.. blows my mind at this point. Italy is near the top of that bucket list desire.

I'd personally like to relive our honeymoon. O'ahu, then Kauai, Big Island, back to O'Ahu. 17 days enjoying the beauty and uniqueness of Hawaii with some crazy incredible adventures. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on November 06, 2024, 09:28:48 PM
My HS sophomore is heading to Florence next spring break w her Latin teacher and some classmates.   Ive never been .  don't think I'm wanted to chaperone either.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2024, 07:56:37 AM
What's the worst destination that you've ever visited? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 07, 2024, 08:14:41 AM
LA Cal.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 07, 2024, 08:16:49 AM
For me, oddly enough, I'd say New Orleans.  I think my expectations were just too high.

I truly dislike Pigeon Force and Myrtle Beach as well, but I don't expect much there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 07, 2024, 09:21:33 AM
the worst:

Vallejo CA

Barstow CA

Blythe CA

63rd Street Chicago

Columbus GA

The Sabine & Angelina National Forest regions of East Texas - specifically the towns of Lufkin, San Augustine, & Jasper TX

Doha Qatar

Pohang South Korea
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 07, 2024, 09:30:20 AM
the worst:

Vallejo CA

Barstow CA

Blythe CA

63rd Street Chicago

Columbus GA

The Sabine & Angelina National Forest regions of East Texas - specifically the towns of Lufkin, San Augustine, & Jasper TX

Doha Qatar

Pohang South Korea
I did a gas main project there. I've never seen so much crime in one spot. It's probably even worse now. This was 2011.

I was on a side road (see below) making measurements when a group of 4-5 people began to follow me. They got closer and closer. I knew what was going on, for sure. I saw an old lady on her porch, and I walked up the stairs and sat down. She quietly said, "I know what you're doing - just sit here for a while". Brought me out some lemonade and I sat with her for 45 minutes or so.


(https://i.imgur.com/NlrQhNy.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 07, 2024, 09:40:47 AM
What's the worst destination that you've ever visited?
what do you mean by visit?
a destination or just passing through?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on November 07, 2024, 12:52:41 PM
That I went out of my way to visit?
Big Sur is beautiful, but the camping trip I did to just north of it was at a gross campground, and the hotel I've stayed in there was similarly crappy.
Longest freakin' sub sandwich buying experience of my life on the interstate somewhere in Georgia. It was like 30 minutes to get a sandwich when I was the only customer. Weird.
I was there for work, but I was thoroughly unimpressed by Fort Lauderdale, FL.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 07, 2024, 12:54:15 PM

Longest freakin' sub sandwich buying experience of my life on the interstate somewhere in Georgia. It was like 30 minutes to get a sandwhich
well, you were in the south.  Things and folks move a little slower down there
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 07, 2024, 12:56:20 PM
For me, oddly enough, I'd say New Orleans.  I think my expectations were just too high.

I had a similar experience there.
some may have been my traveling partner - likes simple food
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on November 07, 2024, 01:18:55 PM
Oakland, CA

Interesting story: A few years ago, Under Armour had a contest where you designed a shoe. The winner got a three-day trip to Oakland and tickets to a Warriors game. I won it. We had to stay in Oakland but spent most of our time, other than the basketball game, in San Fran. Frustratingly enough, I didn't even get a free pair of the shoes for winning. 

This was the shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/BOJZYKy.jpeg)

And this was the Instagram post for the voting:
(https://i.imgur.com/dIDyjIl.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 07, 2024, 03:24:00 PM
That I went out of my way to visit?
Big Sur is beautiful, but the camping trip I did to just north of it was at a gross campground, and the hotel I've stayed in there was similarly crappy.
Longest freakin' sub sandwich buying experience of my life on the interstate somewhere in Georgia. It was like 30 minutes to get a sandwich when I was the only customer. Weird.
I was there for work, but I was thoroughly unimpressed by Fort Lauderdale, FL.

Fort Lauderdale... too much traffic. Too expensive.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 07, 2024, 04:01:01 PM
I enjoyed Ft. Lauderdale.
But, that was in the early 90's, I was young, stayed with my cousin, and the Huskers were playing in the Orange Bowl
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on November 07, 2024, 07:50:24 PM
Sans the Big O at George's bar, Waco, TX.  Pretty dismal place, imo.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2024, 11:52:35 PM
what do you mean by visit?
a destination or just passing through?
Yeah, you went there on purpose and it sucked. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 08, 2024, 12:07:37 AM
not sure

I can have a good time most anywhere
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 08, 2024, 07:43:37 AM
My wife was not too taken with Istanbul.  I liked the historical items there, and meeting some Turkd and talking with them.  The boat ride we took was excellent, beautiful weather that day.  We agreed we wouldn't go back, but that has changed, one of the Turk friends we met just visited us and sketched out a tour we might like to do in 10 days or so.  She seemed attracted to the idea.  Turkey has some "things to see".

She really liked Tokyo mostly because we had an 8 hour private walking tour, I was impressed with Seoul.  We're going back to the latter, our next cruise starts there again.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: ELA on November 08, 2024, 08:34:59 AM
not sure

I can have a good time most anywhere
Norman?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on November 08, 2024, 08:47:18 AM
Norman is actually a pretty nice little town.  Obviously it sucks because ou sucks, but aside from that, it's alright.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 08, 2024, 08:48:33 AM
yup, I visited Norman for a Husker game a few years back

it didn't suck

the loss sucked and OU sucks but I had a good time
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 08, 2024, 08:50:23 AM
I was thinking of a Husker game destination that sucked, but I've not been to Boulder or Columbia

Figured they would suck and stayed away
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on November 08, 2024, 08:53:32 AM
Boulder's great!  CU fans were complete trash but I like the town and surrounding areas.

Lubbock is... not great.  But a college kid can still have a good time there, I sure did!

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 08, 2024, 09:08:29 AM
Waco wasn't great but I had a good time

lightning delay sent us out of our seats and the rain had us leave early but 4 different Huskers rushed for over 100 yards and I got to tailgate with Droog
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 10, 2024, 08:51:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/O1je5Ql.png)

A decent enough list, I think.  Kinda funny to go somewhere to see ruins though.  I would add a few, probably, Scandanavia as a whole, Turkey, Egypt, Israel (not now), India, Korea, China, Oman ...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 10, 2024, 08:54:53 AM
I've been to Canada on a motorcycle

saw some nature - mostly trees and lakes

the cities of Thunder Bay and Kenora weren't anything to write home about
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 10, 2024, 09:45:40 AM
not sure

I can have a good time most anywhere

Even if you're surrounded by hornet nests? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 10, 2024, 09:52:02 AM
I haven't been to that place yet
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 10, 2024, 10:04:18 AM
trapped on the sea floor in a broken-down submarine? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 10, 2024, 10:15:38 AM
not even on my list of places to go

but, if they had wine, women, and song ......... probably
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 10, 2024, 11:06:25 AM



(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS079CSaJIT6sttsPWVhvXEZAp-7XQNLL2Ijw&s)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 10, 2024, 11:39:03 AM
hah, Larry the Cable guy

I'd party with him!

good times
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 11, 2024, 12:12:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wZYkCj2.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 11, 2024, 12:14:35 PM
I've done that
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 11, 2024, 10:31:04 PM
Hole in... D'oh! 

Man, they have all that mountainous terrain, and they don't even use it to screw with the golfers. 

(https://golficity.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/sandhollowcanyon.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 11, 2024, 10:36:52 PM
good miss is right of the pin and long

I don't think you'd want to walk that course
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 11, 2024, 11:53:10 PM
Pretty sure that's the worst hole, right on the edge of the cliff. 

There must be thousands of golf balls down at the bottom. 

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J_r_4hk2mz0/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 12, 2024, 09:20:43 AM
don't worry the old guys limp down there and pick them up
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on November 12, 2024, 06:54:44 PM
I've been to Canada on a motorcycle

saw some nature - mostly trees and lakes

the cities of Thunder Bay and Kenora weren't anything to write home about
The whole reason to be anywhere near Kenora or Thunder Bay is for world class fishing.   The only reason I'd go to those cities is for an emergency.   
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 12, 2024, 06:58:53 PM
I noticed many float planes leaving from Kenora

didn't spent much time in Thunder Bay

drove in one afternoon, ate and drank too much at a place called "The Keg"
rolled out the nest morning
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on November 12, 2024, 07:03:39 PM


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS079CSaJIT6sttsPWVhvXEZAp-7XQNLL2Ijw&s)
Is that Larry the Cable Guy 0r a Beluga the tarts are swimming with ?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on November 12, 2024, 07:12:17 PM
The whole reason to be anywhere near Kenora or Thunder Bay is for world class fishing.  The only reason I'd go to those cities is for an emergency. 
Like my buddy last 2X up in Ontario he ended up in the ER. He carved himself up filleting some walleye one time and almost bled out.Then this year he somehow backed into the fire pit his B.i.L was making clearing debris around the family cabin.This last one he had to get like 3-4 seperate treatments - and he wasn't drinking either time.

 I told him 

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.buzzfeed.com%2Fbuzzfeed-static%2Fstatic%2Fenhanced%2Fwebdr05%2F2013%2F7%2F21%2F18%2Fanigif_enhanced-buzz-14837-1374446988-6.gif&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 12, 2024, 07:12:41 PM
Big Larry the Husker fan!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 12, 2024, 07:14:32 PM
Like my buddy last 2X up in Ontario he ended up in the ER. He carved himself up filleting some walleye one time and almost bled out.Then this year he somehow backed into the fire pit his B.i.L was making clearing debris around the family cabin.This last one he had to get like 3-4 seperate treatments - and he wasn't drinking either time.

my advice is to start drinking heavily!

https://youtu.be/MEwSAvvbzJ4
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 12, 2024, 07:45:08 PM
Some people just can't handle their liquor.

Other people can't function, liquor or not. 

We call these people "the masses". 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2024, 03:13:21 PM
https://www.travelandleisure.com/food-cities-around-the-world-travel-experts-8734043 (https://www.travelandleisure.com/food-cities-around-the-world-travel-experts-8734043)

These Are the Top 10 Food Cities in the World, According to T+L Travel Advisors

From Michelin-starred restaurants to local food stalls, these cities have something for everyone.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 14, 2024, 06:24:24 AM
Alcohol is an interesting topic vis a vis its impact on human behaviors and health.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on November 14, 2024, 08:48:02 AM
Some people just can't handle their liquor.

Other people can't function, liquor or not.

We call these people "the masses".
Don't be too hard on yourself,you're doing just fine. Go have a Left Coast IPA on me,I'll have an Oktoberfest and FF gets a Bud Light,CD can have what ever grape squeezings Costco is peddling
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 14, 2024, 09:38:27 AM
Costco peddles some pretty good wines.  I get most of mine from Tower because the price is close and Tower gives a 10% case discount.  The Kirkland brand wines of course aren't at Tower, and they often are superb values.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 16, 2024, 09:29:24 AM
Adirondack Forty-Sixers

The Adirondack Forty-Sixers is a club whose members have successfully climbed all 46 of the traditionally recognized High Peaks of the Adirondack Mountains in New York. The first "46ers" devised the criteria for the club in the early 20th century, selecting only those summits that rise more than 4,000 ft (1,219 m) above sea level and have at least 300 ft (91 m) of vertical rise on all sides. Some take the challenge further and re-climb all the peaks in winter.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 21, 2024, 10:08:34 AM
The European Union is preparing to implement two significant changes impacting how travellers enter Europe. These changes—the EU Entry/Exit System (EES) and the European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS)—will affect travel to popular destinations like France, Spain, Greece, Italy, and Portugal.

If you’re planning a trip to Europe in the coming months, here’s what you need to know to ensure a smooth journey.

EU Entry/Exit System (EES)
The EU Entry/Exit System (EES) is set to replace traditional passport stamps with a digital system. This update means that whenever you cross a border into the EU or the Schengen Area, your movements will be electronically recorded.

Unlike the current system, which allows for unrestricted movement between Schengen countries after arrival, the EES will log each border crossing, making it crucial for travellers to be aware of their travel routes.


In addition to the EES, the European Union will introduce the European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS). This will require travellers from visa-exempt countries to apply online before visiting Europe.

Similar to the U.S. ESTA or Canada’s Electronic Travel Authorization (eTA), travellers will need to pay a fee of €7 (approximately USD 21) for a two-year travel authorization. While these changes are expected to be implemented in 2025, the exact timeline has not been finalized.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on November 21, 2024, 02:48:02 PM
Neat drone photo, I didn't take it, looking south, then north.

(https://i.imgur.com/OOZfX1n.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yIV5leo.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 22, 2024, 09:36:26 AM
LINCOLN, Neb. (KLKN) — Is Nebraska a new tourism hot spot?

A new report from Visit Nebraska shows a major increase in travel, providing an economic boost.

Last year, out-of-state visitors spent $4.6 billion in Nebraska, an all-time record.

And since 2019, the number of overnight hotel guests has doubled, with 76% of them coming from out of state.

What happened in 2019? Visit Nebraska began a new marketing strategy that included ideas such as finding out what locations it should be promoting and focusing on attracting out of state visitors.

“Truly it’s just because people have been invited to the state in a way they understand, in a way that makes sense,” said John Ricks, executive director of Visit Nebraska, also known as the Nebraska Tourism Commission.


Ricks says to keep this growth going, it’s always going to be about getting the word out.

“The more people we make aware, the more people who are discovering that, ‘Hey, whatever I heard in the past isn’t true, and this is actually a cool place.’”

According to Ricks, despite the 2023 numbers just getting released, this year’s numbers are already beating last year’s by over 10%.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 22, 2024, 09:38:24 AM
You should move there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on November 22, 2024, 09:46:04 AM
more people should

plenty of fresh water, fresh air, jobs, inexpensive housing, and runzas

and a short drive to the College World Series!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on November 22, 2024, 10:33:48 AM
Adirondack Forty-Sixers

The Adirondack Forty-Sixers is a club whose members have successfully climbed all 46 of the traditionally recognized High Peaks of the Adirondack Mountains in New York. The first "46ers" devised the criteria for the club in the early 20th century, selecting only those summits that rise more than 4,000 ft (1,219 m) above sea level and have at least 300 ft (91 m) of vertical rise on all sides. Some take the challenge further and re-climb all the peaks in winter.
That's pretty cool. Had no idea about upstate NY until my early 20's when i got the chance to go up to Lake George a few time, which lead to exploring that area. Absolutely beautiful. A lot of cool, quaint little towns
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 05, 2024, 06:47:35 PM
Sitting in the Charlotte airport after a flight on a 737 from Omaha. 

Reminds me how much I dislike flying. 

After a mile walk to my next gate (which I don't mind) I'll wait over 2 hours for the flight to Walton beach.

Omaha and Charlotte airports tore up for refurbish construction. 

Very full of unhappy people 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 05, 2024, 06:59:01 PM
Airports have bars.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 05, 2024, 07:07:35 PM
Maybe it's me.  There's a bar 15 yards away.   I'm not drinking 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on December 05, 2024, 08:14:00 PM
I love airport bars.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on December 05, 2024, 08:18:34 PM
The spectrum of airport bars is quite vast.  

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 05, 2024, 08:44:21 PM
Not much to love about this one
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 06, 2024, 08:17:05 AM
I discovered this quaint overlook in Kaibab NF north of Jacob Lake, which is the North Rim turnoff. It's the best view of the "Grand Staircase" that you are going to find;  a series of cliffs that are each a different color. Well you can pretty much see all of Southern Utah from that overlook, from Pine Mountain in St George to Navajo mountain out by Lake Powell and everything in between.


(https://dyeclan.com/outdooractivities/funplaces/lefevre-overlook/20220402_125015.jpg)


(https://dyeclan.com/outdooractivities/funplaces/lefevre-overlook/20220402_124855.jpg)

It's a perspective you can't get by actually visiting the monument, where you drive across the entire thing and wonder "where in the Hell is this grand staircase?"


Found a cool 35 model of the area. South to the left, and north to the right. 


(https://www.nps.gov/brca/learn/nature/images/Staircase-Diagram-Insta.jpg?maxwidth=1300&maxheight=1300&autorotate=false)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 06, 2024, 08:42:46 AM
Sitting in the Charlotte airport after a flight on a 737 from Omaha.

Reminds me how much I dislike flying.

After a mile walk to my next gate (which I don't mind) I'll wait over 2 hours for the flight to Walton beach.

Omaha and Charlotte airports tore up for refurbish construction.

Very full of unhappy people
Gonna be cold up there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 06, 2024, 09:35:20 AM
43 right now with a breeze

Glad I brought my jacket

high of 56 will be almost 10 degrees warmer than NW Iowa
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 06, 2024, 09:38:34 AM
Gonna be 77 here.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 06, 2024, 09:43:50 AM
just as well, I'd be tempted to find a golf course

Bonfire tonight here, I know how to stay warm
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on December 06, 2024, 09:47:18 AM
just as well, I'd be tempted to find a golf course

Bonfire tonight here, I know how to stay warm
I haven't been able to play in about a month. I got a membership Five Iron Golf in downtown Indy. It's fun and is an acceptable substitute but I'd rather be doing the real thing. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 06, 2024, 10:02:33 AM
I'm not a fan of simulators but they're better than not swinging
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 06, 2024, 10:08:08 AM
Gonna be 77 here.
Same here. Possible difference is that it was 45 here when I woke up tho...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 06, 2024, 10:18:44 AM
52 at wake up here.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on December 06, 2024, 11:45:17 AM
17 this morning with a high of 30 expected. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on December 06, 2024, 12:10:34 PM
I love airport bars.
The wife and I always find people to talk with at a bar.  And there is always great people watching
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on December 06, 2024, 01:20:11 PM
The wife and I always find people to talk with at a bar.  And there is always great people watching
Exactly.  There's something about airports and airport bars-- the energy, the air of anticipation, or even dread-- I find it interesting and enjoyable.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 06, 2024, 01:23:11 PM
Nashville has great airport bars.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 06, 2024, 01:50:01 PM
this was in Charlotte airport......... I checked their taps and wasn't impressed

of course, not an IPA guy

(https://i.imgur.com/zRQWGvd.png)

https://www.sycamorebrew.com/our-brews/ (https://www.sycamorebrew.com/our-brews/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on December 06, 2024, 03:58:04 PM
Yeah there's nothing more disappointing than hearing about a great new beer bar or brewpub and then seeing that although they have 40 taps on the wall, 35 of them are some form of IPA.  I've turned around and walked straight out of places like that before.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 06, 2024, 03:59:35 PM
the entire vibe wasn't good
maybe the pizza was OK
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 06, 2024, 04:11:05 PM
Yeah there's nothing more disappointing than hearing about a great new beer bar or brewpub and then seeing that although they have 40 taps on the wall, 35 of them are some form of IPA.  I've turned around and walked straight out of places like that before.
I've stumbled out of some places like that before...

...I can't really function after trying about 10 or more of those IPAs, much less 35!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on December 06, 2024, 04:12:03 PM
I've stumbled out of some places like that before...

...I can't really function after trying about 10 or more of those IPAs, much less 35!
blech :)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on December 06, 2024, 04:12:54 PM
Speaking of which, Mr N reminded me the Beer Thread is 19 years old as of today (or yesterday maybe?).

It's almost old enough to drink beer!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 06, 2024, 04:15:00 PM
this was in Charlotte airport......... I checked their taps and wasn't impressed

of course, not an IPA guy

(https://i.imgur.com/zRQWGvd.png)

https://www.sycamorebrew.com/our-brews/ (https://www.sycamorebrew.com/our-brews/)
Admittedly their beer list on the web site is a little bit "meh".

Outside of IPA variants, they've got a wheat beer with citrus, a light lager, a lager with lime, a standard lager, and a blonde ale. 

But at an airport bar, they probably had Bud Fat. And if not, the standard lager probably is probably a suitable stand-in for Bud Fat if they did it well. Although they probably don't use rice, so it might have a little fuller body. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 06, 2024, 04:23:44 PM
yup, had I been thirsty I woulda asked for a can of Bud

the bar, the bartender, the people sitting at the bar, just a bad vibe

the bar just stuck out from the wall behind it.  No walls on the other 3 sides.  Just out into the walkway in the airport

I rarely turn down a drink, but I just wasn't feeling it.

I dislike flying
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 06, 2024, 04:40:38 PM
things did turn out OK

McGuire's Irish pub in Destin was serving food till 2am....................


(https://i.imgur.com/9e3UbFM.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ph74SRG.jpeg)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 13, 2024, 03:26:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/P1PXzLA.png)

It didn't say what the numbers meant, I'd guess crimes per.

Only a smallish part of Turkey is in Europe, and a large part of Russia.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 13, 2024, 04:44:14 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/NVfFiRA.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on December 13, 2024, 05:40:55 PM
Exactly.  There's something about airports and airport bars-- the energy, the air of anticipation, or even dread-- I find it interesting and enjoyable.
Ask CD nicely and he'll take you up in the crop duster think it was previously empoyed as a Sopwith Camel 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 13, 2024, 06:59:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/NVfFiRA.png)
The only one I've been to is Jackpot. It's the only town in Nevada that officially operates on Mountain Time instead of Pacific Time. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 13, 2024, 07:50:03 PM
At lot of those towns adhere to my theory that UTee types should give their towns undesirable names, so that no one wants to move there. 

So Worms, Scratch Ankle, Mosquitoville, Flea Hill, Satan's Kingdom and Plenty Bears are probably some well hidden gems that the locals want to keep off the grid.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 14, 2024, 09:36:11 AM
There is a town north of me called "Ball Ground", and another called "Suches".  We have a "Rome", a fairly nice small city, and a "Columbus" and "Savanah" and "Macon".  My wife pronouced the last one oddly.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 14, 2024, 10:44:44 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/QemeUOq.png)

Bars that serve alcohol in France.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Gigem on December 15, 2024, 12:11:41 PM
Got back from Vegas on Friday. I’m kinda over it. First day or two it’s cool. By the third day I’m crawling the walls to get out. 

The Venetian is a very nice hotel, but they now allow smoking in the casino again. Blech. Couldn’t get that lingering odor out of my smell, even in the room. 

I barely gambled, but after checking out played $20 on a $.05 slots and won $600. Cashed out and done. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 15, 2024, 12:13:25 PM
$600 is a nice chunk to walk out with of course.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Gigem on December 15, 2024, 02:28:40 PM
$600 is a nice chunk to walk out with of course.
Considering that our trip was about 90% paid for by the vendor I thought it was very nice.  They paid for the flight, hotel, some of our meals, and had events planned for us with free drinks and food.  So yeah, it was really nice.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 15, 2024, 02:33:01 PM
Portugal... No.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 15, 2024, 04:06:04 PM
Ten Curiosities about the Republic of Chile:

1. **The Lone Star Flag**: Chile's flag is similar to that of Texas, USA. Both designs share similarities due to the influence of other nations' flags during their independence.
2. **The Driest Desert in the World**: The Atacama Desert, located in northern Chile, is the driest place on Earth, with some areas that haven't seen rain in centuries.
3. **A Long and Narrow Country**: Chile is one of the longest countries in the world, stretching over 4,300 km (2,670 miles) from north to south, but with an average width of only 177 km (110 miles).
4. **Easter Island**: Chile governs Easter Island (Rapa Nui), famous for its mysterious moai statues. It is one of the most remote inhabited islands in the world, located more than 3,500 km (2,175 miles) off the Chilean coast.
5. **Chilean Patagonia**: In the far south of Chile lies Patagonia, a region of extraordinary natural beauty with glaciers, fjords, and towering mountains.
6. **Gabriela Mistral’s Educational Legacy**: Gabriela Mistral, the first Latin American woman to win the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1945, was a renowned Chilean poet and educator who played a significant role in the development of the country's educational system.
7. **Independence**: Chile declared its independence from Spain on September 18, 1810, although it was not officially recognized until 1818.
8. **Climate Diversity**: Chile has a wide variety of climates, from the arid Atacama Desert in the north, to Mediterranean climates in the central region, and subpolar climates in Patagonia.
9. **Copper Powerhouse**: Chile is the world's largest producer of copper, and the mineral is a key component of its economy. The largest open-pit copper mine in the world, Chuquicamata, is located in northern Chile.
10. **The Strongest Earthquake Ever Recorded**: The 1960 Valdivia earthquake, with a magnitude of 9.5, is the most powerful earthquake ever recorded. It triggered tsunamis that reached as far as Hawaii, Japan, and the Philippines.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on December 15, 2024, 05:00:07 PM
Ten Curiosities about the Republic of Chile:

2. **The Driest Desert in the World**: The Atacama Desert, located in northern Chile, is the driest place on Earth, with some areas that haven't seen rain in centuries.
Bollocks I say nobody lives there so how would they know if it rained? Any data collecting stations would probably evaporate if any did spritz down,they'd never get there on time to realize or witness it
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 16, 2024, 08:56:02 AM
15 Interesting Facts You May Not Know About France 
1. France is the most visited country in the world, attracting over 80 million tourists each year, thanks to its rich culture, history, art, and beautiful landscapes. 
2. French is the official language of France, but the country is home to several regional languages, including Breton, Occitan, and Corsican, some of which have been spoken for centuries. 
3. The Eiffel Tower, one of the most iconic landmarks in the world, was originally intended to be a temporary structure for the 1889 World's Fair and was almost dismantled afterward. 
4. France is known for its wine, and it is one of the largest wine producers in the world. The country has several renowned wine regions, including Bordeaux, Burgundy, and Champagne. 
5. The Louvre Museum in Paris is the largest art museum in the world and home to the famous "Mona Lisa" by Leonardo da Vinci, which is considered one of the most visited artworks globally. 
6. France is home to over 40,000 castles, including the world-famous Château de Versailles, a symbol of France’s royal heritage and grandeur. 
7. The French Revolution, which began in 1789, led to the establishment of the First French Republic and significantly influenced the development of modern democratic principles. 
8. France has its own distinct cheese culture, with more than 1,000 varieties of cheese produced across the country, ranging from creamy Brie to pungent Roquefort. 
9. The country is a pioneer in fashion, and Paris is considered the fashion capital of the world, home to prestigious fashion houses like Chanel, Louis Vuitton, and Dior. 
10. French cuisine is famous worldwide, and it was added to UNESCO’s list of Intangible Cultural Heritage, emphasizing its cultural significance and the artistry involved in its preparation. 
11. France has the longest border in Europe, sharing boundaries with Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, Monaco, Andorra, and the Atlantic Ocean. 
12. The French Revolution led to the creation of the metric system, which France first introduced in the 18th century and is now used worldwide. 
13. France has a rich literary history, with renowned authors such as Victor Hugo, Albert Camus, and Marcel Proust contributing to world literature. 
14. The Palace of Versailles, a UNESCO World Heritage Site, is known for its magnificent gardens, the Hall of Mirrors, and its role as the royal residence of the French monarchy before the Revolution. 
15. France has a variety of unique festivals throughout the year, including the famous Cannes Film Festival, which celebrates cinema and attracts stars from around the globe.


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on December 16, 2024, 09:22:39 AM
Ten Curiosities about the Republic of Chile:

1. **The Lone Star Flag**: Chile's flag is similar to that of Texas, USA. Both designs share similarities due to the influence of other nations' flags during their independence.

Texas used to have a law that the image of the state flag could not be used in advertising/marketing or other private commercial applications. So on our billboards for our BBQ restaurant, my dad used the Chilean flag instead.  Some folks would occasionally come to my parents and say, "did you know you used the Chilean flag and not the Texas flag?" and my dad would say, "no, really?"
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 16, 2024, 09:30:07 AM
A fun "fact" I read is that the longest intranational flight is from Bora Bora to Paris, both start and finish is in France.  I think it was Bora x 2.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on December 16, 2024, 09:34:44 AM
Portugal... No.
I loved Portugal. A nice relaxed vibe. Nice people. Excellent sightseeing. Good food. Portuguese green wine is great too. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 16, 2024, 10:10:33 AM
I loved Portugal. A nice relaxed vibe. Nice people. Excellent sightseeing. Good food. Portuguese green wine is great too.
Agree.

But the food... no.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on December 16, 2024, 11:22:48 AM
As a seafood aficionado I really enjoyed it. The breaded cod which is the national dish is great and octopus is a common dish as well. Love them both.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 16, 2024, 11:25:43 AM
Atlanta 1 Star MICHELIN Restaurants – the MICHELIN Guide (https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/georgia/atlanta_2884144/restaurants/1-star-michelin?sort=distance)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 17, 2024, 08:47:42 AM
Kinda sorry I had to miss this Arizona trip. My MIL's 90th birthday in Chandler, AZ.

My wife, surrounded by my son and his family. They had a great time.

(https://i.imgur.com/pIC2TKf.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on December 17, 2024, 11:08:23 AM
tried this place last night with the daughter

https://momo-pizzeria.com/ (https://momo-pizzeria.com/)

I thought it was excellant

(https://i.imgur.com/4gLBTlo.png)
I had the Bolognese

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on December 17, 2024, 11:19:05 AM
I stopped by the local steak house (STK), we've dined there maybe four times, it's not bad.  This time of year they have gift cards with bonuses, the usual, by $100 and get $25 gift card, when I stopped they had a "flash sale" with $50 gift cards, so I bought $200 and got the $100 extra.

They have a $69 special at the moment that includes steak/appetize/desert/wine which looks decent.  We'll probably take our kids there this week.  Like most here, I can manage to cook a decent steak at home easily enough but I don't mind having one out a few times.  The offer two seafood items in lieu of steak.

Steak Night America - STK Steakhouse (https://stksteakhouse.com/happenings/steak-night/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA34S7BhAtEiwACZzv4fXo2yFRMomNTwPaC8Ogo-UdUWz1xeiErVuR5fe7XfPMoCEuWCAYlRoC-nEQAvD_BwE)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 01, 2025, 08:31:26 PM
The Woodbury County Courthouse in Sioux City, Iowa is the largest public building built in the Prairie School style. It was named one of the country’s 200 key buildings by New York City’s Whitney Library of Design in 1993.

(https://i.imgur.com/A6fWdnP.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 02, 2025, 09:23:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/US9R57g.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 02, 2025, 10:40:22 AM
The Aiguille du Midi is a 3,842-meter peak in the Mont Blanc massif of the French Alps. Accessible by cable car from Chamonix, it offers panoramic views, a viewing platform, and a glass skywalk. It serves as a base for alpine activities, including skiing and climbing routes to Mont Blan.

(https://i.imgur.com/HAmDKNI.png)

This is one of the top two or three places I've ever visited.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2025, 10:57:17 AM
I'd take the cable car, too old for skiing
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 07, 2025, 07:05:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/MWAjdWF.png)

South America is east of Michigan.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 07, 2025, 07:12:19 AM
Those islands just west of the bottom of that line look like they might be part of S America as well. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 07, 2025, 07:21:34 AM
Kegs and eggs lunch for college football
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 07, 2025, 07:45:39 AM
The Galápagos Islands are a chain of islands, or archipelago, in the eastern Pacific Ocean. They are part of the country of Ecuador, in South America. The Galápagos lie about 966 kilometers (600 miles) off of the Ecuadorian coast.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 07, 2025, 07:57:15 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/5d/d4/675dd4a08c0fb5d55248fdc2e60f4641.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on January 07, 2025, 08:11:09 AM
That show was not funny
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 07, 2025, 08:18:10 AM
That show was not funny
I watched a couple early on and found it boring and unfunny.  I watched a few years later and started to "get it".  It has some funny moments.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 07, 2025, 08:20:35 AM
I don't think I want to "get it"
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 07, 2025, 08:23:18 AM
I watch reruns on occasion now when I'm bored.  And no, getting it is not much of any advantage.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Gigem on January 07, 2025, 10:20:53 AM
I only watched the last 3/4 seasons and I thought it was extremely funny.  25 years later I can't hardly stand any of it, doesn't seem funny at all.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on January 07, 2025, 12:18:33 PM
Heading to New Orleans in a couple of days.  Going to spend a couple of days there then cruise the western Carribean. Been on that cruise a few times but friend asked if we wanted to join them so we are going. Be nice to get some warm weather in the carribean. These cold 70 degree days are freezing me. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 07, 2025, 12:23:20 PM
I enjoyed Seinfeld at the time, I can understand why some folks didn't.

I haven't re-watched any of it to see what it's like now.  I'm not much for re-watching anything, really.  Other than a few movies that are either my absolute favorites, or seasonal traditions.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 07, 2025, 12:28:37 PM
I got "Netflix" for Christmas, so I'm rewatching Better Call Saul.  I had forgotten much of it and missed some episodes back when anyway.  I find the writing and acting to be creative and superb.

S'all good, man.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 07, 2025, 03:32:50 PM
I can't picture Cincydawg intentionally watching anything that's intended to be funny, or laughing at any of it if he did. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 07, 2025, 03:39:42 PM
I ended up seeing this last Saturday. 

Let's just say my reaction to it was very CD-esque...

(https://i.imgur.com/VMnjoO2.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 07, 2025, 03:48:32 PM
I'm a big fan of musical theater-- I have no desire to see that, ever.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 07, 2025, 04:05:31 PM
I'm a big fan of musical theater-- I have no desire to see that, ever.
It was "alright". Better than a few other things we've seen (like Mean Girls). Decently nostalgic. Sorta fun.

But the sort of thing that if you didn't already have season tickets and it was part of the package (like for us), I certainly wouldn't recommend purchasing them standalone. 

I'm not sad that we didn't walk out after intermission (as we should have done for Mean Girls), but I was, well, unimpressed. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 07, 2025, 04:13:02 PM
I had the package here in Austin for many years, but over time it just ended up being too much crap like this, and Mean Girls, so a couple years back I finally canceled.

More Chicago or Rent or Les Mis or Phantom, less Mean Girls or Back To The Future or Beetlejuice.

And I'm a HUGE Beetlejuice fan, too.  But I saw the stage production and... no.  Just... no.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on January 07, 2025, 04:58:29 PM
I had the package here in Austin for many years, but over time it just ended up being too much crap like this, and Mean Girls, so a couple years back I finally canceled.

More Chicago or Rent or Les Mis or Phantom, less Mean Girls or Back To The Future or Beetlejuice.

And I'm a HUGE Beetlejuice fan, too.  But I saw the stage production and... no.  Just... no.
That's why we haven't bought season tickets for Hennepin Theater Trust. Maybe 1 show a year we've heard of, then nothing but jukebox musicals (MJ, Tina, etc).
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 07, 2025, 05:01:43 PM
I had the package here in Austin for many years, but over time it just ended up being too much crap like this, and Mean Girls, so a couple years back I finally canceled.

More Chicago or Rent or Les Mis or Phantom, less Mean Girls or Back To The Future or Beetlejuice.

And I'm a HUGE Beetlejuice fan, too.  But I saw the stage production and... no.  Just... no.
I actually enjoyed Beetlejuice. That was in our package this last time. Granted I probably haven't seen the movie for 30 years, so it's not like I'm a huge fan. I could see if you're a huge fan, it might be like sacrilege...

Our next show is Kimberly Akimbo, which I've never heard of but apparently it won 5 Tonys, so hopefully it's good. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 07, 2025, 05:02:31 PM
Jeeezzz
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 07, 2025, 05:12:32 PM
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/ux8oEeJoOtNyXaiR7u/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952bo9zrazzryi7h9zwzl28a1rq9md3a1ckgv7vxtfn&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 07, 2025, 05:14:07 PM
I'm the guy who went to see Hamilton and hated it, wanted to walk out but didn't.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 07, 2025, 05:15:27 PM
I'm the guy who went to see Hamilton and hated it, wanted to walk out but didn't.
I get it. 

Seeing the Founding Fathers reimagined singing hip hop has to be jarring for someone who knew them personally. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 07, 2025, 05:18:51 PM
I didn't know all of them personally of course, just Hamilton and Adams.  And Gwinnett.  And Burr, but i avoided him, a hothead.  

My daughter was visiting and my wife thought it would be a neat thing to do, it was at the "famous" Fox Theater.  She paid extra so we could get into the "lounge" (which was OK but over priced, kind of like a crowded Delta lounge).

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 07, 2025, 06:12:36 PM
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/ux8oEeJoOtNyXaiR7u/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952bo9zrazzryi7h9zwzl28a1rq9md3a1ckgv7vxtfn&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
I will NOT!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 08, 2025, 07:17:35 AM
Musical theatre? Are you fellas married to women or men? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 08, 2025, 10:06:47 AM
So, while I whine about having no French bistros near us, I ran across this place, in the Four Seasons near us, with ambivalent reviews.

Menus | Brasserie Margot in Atlanta, GA (https://www.brasseriemargot.com/menus/#dinner)

The menu looks French, to me.  We haven't been, it's pricey.  We've been to their bar which my stepson really likes a lot, it's also pricey, go figure, Four Seasons and all.  It's an interesting building, the lower floors are the hotel and the uppers are condos, pricey condos.

Above The Four Seasons Condos For Sale (https://condos.aboveatlanta.com/i/above-the-four-seasons-condos-for-sale)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 08, 2025, 10:27:00 AM
incase George Jefferson wants to move to Atlanta
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 08, 2025, 10:29:04 AM
So, while I whine about having no French bistros near us, I ran across this place, in the Four Seasons near us, with ambivalent reviews.

Menus | Brasserie Margot in Atlanta, GA (https://www.brasseriemargot.com/menus/#dinner)

The menu looks French, to me.  We haven't been, it's pricey.  We've been to their bar which my stepson really likes a lot, it's also pricey, go figure, Four Seasons and all.  It's an interesting building, the lower floors are the hotel and the uppers are condos, pricey condos.

Above The Four Seasons Condos For Sale (https://condos.aboveatlanta.com/i/above-the-four-seasons-condos-for-sale)



Yeah looks more like a "restaurant" than a "bistro" or "brasserie" but the menu looks tasty.  The prices aren't the worst in the world...
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 08, 2025, 10:43:28 AM
So, while I whine about having no French bistros near us, I ran across this place, in the Four Seasons near us, with ambivalent reviews.

Menus | Brasserie Margot in Atlanta, GA (https://www.brasseriemargot.com/menus/#dinner)

The menu looks French, to me.  We haven't been, it's pricey.  We've been to their bar which my stepson really likes a lot, it's also pricey, go figure, Four Seasons and all.  It's an interesting building, the lower floors are the hotel and the uppers are condos, pricey condos.

Above The Four Seasons Condos For Sale (https://condos.aboveatlanta.com/i/above-the-four-seasons-condos-for-sale)
When we got married in Florence, my wife had her hair styled at the spa at the Four Seasons. I was waiting and reading my kindle, so I ordered a Peroni. Yeah, that 11.2 oz beer was 19 Euro. I only had one :57:
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 08, 2025, 10:49:16 AM
I think Americans may think the term "brasserie" is more upscale or sumthin.

Brasserie Margot Restaurant - Atlanta, GA | OpenTable (https://www.opentable.com/r/brasserie-margot-atlanta)

We might try it in time, I'm guessing my wife will not care for it.  

The place we used to go was called "Atmosphere Bistro", but it was really a restaurant, not bad we thought.  I liked it a lot.  She said it was Tex-Mex, I mean, American French.

I'm getting to where I prefer going where I know it'll be solid and as expected.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 08, 2025, 10:50:31 AM
Gotta drink wine in Italy, it's way cheaper, and way better.

Although occasionally I'm in the mood for a Moretti.  But not a 19 euro Moretti.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 08, 2025, 10:53:01 AM
I'm getting to where I prefer going where I know it'll be solid and as expected.
yup, like buffalo wild wings
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 11, 2025, 04:47:52 PM
made it to Tiburon - it's as beautiful as I remember from 30 years ago.
The Lodge seems the same

the daughters took the ferry from San Fran - beautiful sunny day with no clouds or fog
nice breeze out of the north so all the sailboats are out in force on a Saturday

I assume Sam's will be packed this evening
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on January 12, 2025, 12:27:32 PM
Why must we be subjected to blaring music while pumping gas.   All treble from a tin can speaker.  Made worse at times with a screaming ad for products. 

Why is this a staple?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 12, 2025, 01:13:46 PM
$$$$
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on January 13, 2025, 03:08:50 PM
Frearless (and anyone), some thoughts on visiting San Francisco:
I don't know where you are staying, so this is just a big picture.

1) San Francisco isn't great to drive in, but some places are better than others. The west side of the City (Golden Gate Park and the Presidio/Palace of the Legion of Honor) is more driveable, and far enough from other things that you'll want a car. More downtown, you might think about leaving the car behind and just taking transit, or picking a well-placed parking garage and doing as much walking as you can take.

2) Views: The Palace of the Legion of Honor has a walk that includes views of the Golden Gate that are pretty special. There's also a beach right underneath the Golden Gate (Baker Beach) that gives great views, but...the northern portion of Baker Beach is a nude beach, so... If you are into art museums, the Palace of the Legion of Honor is a good one, currently exhibiting an American impressionist's work (Mary Cassatt).

Another place for those views is on the Marin side, in the "Headlands." The walk to or near the Point Bonita lighthouse gives great views of the Golden Gate (assuming no or little fog). Some people really like walking or riding (rental) bikes over the GG, but I don't think you need it.

3) Heading down the west side of the City takes you to Golden Gate Park, built with NY's Central Park in mind, but (a) not central, and (b) much, much bigger. GGP has Dutch windmills, a bison paddock, a great Japanese Tea Garden (paid admission), the De Young art museum (probably the City's best museum--American Art, costume and textiles, modern art, and others...), and the California Academy of Sciences, which is a bit like the aquarium (it has a small one), but it also has a pretty cool earthquake exhibit, if you want to feel what an earthquake feels like. GGP is a near must for visiting SF.

4) The Haight Ashbury is near GGP--that's the home of 60s counterculture, and to the extent it is still alive in SF, that's mostly where it is.

5) The Castro is the City's gay district. Don't go there to gawk at gay people (that sounds patronizing, but people do it and the locals don't appreciate it). But maybe drive through it to get a sense for its flavor on your way to...

6) get a burrito at la Taqueria at 24th and Mission (in the Mission District). Allegedly the burrito was invented in San Francisco. Take it to go, and walk/drive over to Dolores Park, for views of downtown, a bunch of painted ladies (Victorian houses of the kind you see in the intros to TV shows set in SF), and Mission Dolores, the original Spanish mission in San Francisco. If you like ice cream, head to Mitchell's at 29th and San Jose after you've walked off that burrito. Even this time of year there is likely to be a line. It's worth it. Mexican Chocolate is my favorite, Peanut Butter Indulgence is...an indulgence. And if you wants something off the wall, they have that, too. Random bit of Mission trivia, despite the Spanish going up and down the coast of California for well more than a century, and having a significant outpost on the Monterey Bay, they "discovered" San Francisco in 1776. 

7) This time of year, the Cable car from Powell and Embarcadero over to the Hyde Street Pier/Fisherman's Wharf should not have too long of a line. The views of the bay coming down towards the Wharf (again, assuming the fog isn't in the way) should be spectacular, and worth the line. On the other hand, if you don't want to wait in a line, but want to experience a cable car (because they are pretty cool just by themselves), you can take the California line from the Embarcadero up to Van Ness. But seriously, take the Powell one. It's worth it. Also, the Cable Car Museum is right off of the Powell Line, if you're interested. It's interesting from an engineering perspective, and isn't a real long visit.

8) I really like City Hall. It's modeled after the U.S. Capitol, and is pretty impressive. There will be people getting married, kids celebrating their quinceaneras, all fighting for space to get their photos taken on the impressive staircase. Across Civic Center Plaza is the Asian Art Museum, which some people call the crown jewel of SF's art scene. For the real art junkies, there is also the SF Museum of Modern Art (MoMa) nearby. People really like it, but I'm not in to art enough to suggest you visit that many art museums.
SIDE NOTE: Civic Center is one of the City's rougher spots. It's plenty safe, particularly during the day, but when national news media wants to show the doom spiral, this is largely where they go to film. Lots of homelessness in and around there.

9) Walking along the Embarcadero near the Bay Bridge is lovely, and strolling through the Ferry Building is a near must. Gott's Roadside Diner is there, and offers some good, if slightly pricey, burgers. There's lots of other good food in and around there.

10) I'm not a huge Fisherman's Wharf guy--it's very touristy, but clam chowder in a sourdough breadbowl is a good idea, the mechanical game museum is fun, and if you are into ships, there are some cool ones out there to visit (a whaling ship, a Liberty Ship (WWII), and the Pomponio WWII submarine).

11) Near the GG Bridge is the Presidio, which has a lovely beach area (Crissy Field), near the old Fort Point, which guarded the entrance to the Bay and I loved visiting when I was younger. Not sure if you and your adult daughters will be that interested in an old 19th century fort. There is a Walt Disney Museum that I think is kind of mediocre, but it tells Walt's personal story (and isn't a long visit). It is not a Disneyland-esque sort of a place. Near there is the Palace of Fine Arts, a beautiful building built for the 1915 World's Fair. There's not much there, other than a stroll around it, but it's lovely, and one of the City's landmarks.

12) Chinatown and North Beach. Bad places to drive (but there are parking lots nearby). Chinatown has the cool gate at Grant and Bush, and is a good stroll through an area that is still a throwback. House of Nanking is a classic for a restaurant, and City View is well-liked for dim sum. Next to Chinatown is North Beach (little Italy). That's the home of City Lights Bookstore, which was part of Jack Kerouac's visit to the City (from On the Road). Here is a recommendation regarding food there: https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/best-day-ever/north-beach-restaurants/ (https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/best-day-ever/north-beach-restaurants/)

13) Alcatraz: it's better than it has a right to be. Yes, it's a tourist trap, but it's also really cool. If you want to spend an afternoon or evening on it, you won't regret it.

14) Random food and drink recommendations:
For a fancy drink that is worth paying for (just one), the Top of the Mark is a bar at the top of the Mark Hopkins hotel on California at Mason. Another good bar for a drink with a view: Rise Over Run, at Turk and Market, top of the Line Hotel--not the greatest neighborhood, but a good place for a drink). Another fancy pbar is Bar Sprezzatura at the maritime Plaza at Clay and Front Street. Dive bars on the water: Red's Java House or the Hi Dive, both near/under the Bay Bridge.
Blue Bottle Coffee is the coffee drinker's coffee shop. They are sprinkled around.
There are lots of great, expensive restaurants. Fog City Diner is a solid option. Kokkarri is one of my favorites (if you like mediteranean), and an old classic is Boulevard, great food (American). The latter two, particularly, will put a dent in your wallet, though. I think of them as expense account meals.
The Ghiradelli ice cream shop at Ghiradelli Square is fun, if you decide Mitchell's is too far out of your way. (And if you are staying near Pier 39.)
Tommy's Joynt is an old SF classic if you're looking for a quick, low-key experience (that won't break the bank).  

15) Transportation (less for Fearless, more for anyone visiting): as noted at the outset, SF is a hard city to drive in. Lots of congestion, one way streets, and thoroughfairs you can't use (or turn on). Fortunately, it's pretty small (basically a 7 mile square) it also has really good transit. MUNI, the bus and street car system (that also runs the Cable Cars) can get you anywhere. Per our discussion elsewhere, you'll get some people watching on MUNI that won't always impress you, but it's convenient, and you can get a pass--probably for a few days or a week--that will get you all over. BART will get you out to farther reaches of the Mission and southern part of the City, and it will get you to the key locations in the East Bay (Oakland, Berkeley, etc.). It will also take you to and from the airport. Would a cab be faster? Sure, but BART will get you there pretty quickly, for 1/4 the price (assuming you're traveling with companions), and if you're staying downtownish. you don't have to pay for parking ($35-50/day) for a car that will be a pain in the ass to use if you're actually staying/visiting in downtown SF. Finally, CalTrain (which has a brand new electric fleet of trains) is great for getting down the Peninsula, whether it's to Stanford (in Palo Alto), or down to San Jose. Don't take it to a 49ers game, though--that is a pain in the arse. Instead, reserve space on one of the shuttles that goes from SF down to Santa Clara. That will be much better, and will cost less than the Uber/Lyft to get down there.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 13, 2025, 05:39:38 PM
Good stuff. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 14, 2025, 10:49:58 AM
thanks

won't be seeking out the gay district or the Civic Center
Daughters are wondering if San Fran will measure up to the filth of Portland - I'd rather they not think so

and for my dollar, EVERYTHING is expensive in Tiburon, Healdsburg, Santa Cruz, and Monterey

woke up in Monterey this morning - headed to the aquarium soon
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 14, 2025, 10:56:07 AM
Yeah it's all really pricey.  The majority of my travels in California have been on the company dime, which is a pretty nice way to do it. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 14, 2025, 11:01:51 AM
headed to the city tomorrow - staying about 20th and ulloa, just west of hwy 1 near the Carl Larson park
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 14, 2025, 11:03:25 AM
Daughters are wondering if San Fran will measure up to the filth of Portland - I'd rather they not think so
Uhh, I'm pretty sure SF will exceed the filth of Portland. With plenty of room to spare. 

It's been years since I've been (2016), but the last time I was there we were in an Uber at a traffic light one morning and watched a woman--who looked to be making the walk of shame--hike up her dress in the middle of the intersection and squat to pee on the street. 

Hmm... Come to think of it, she probably wasn't ashamed of anything she'd done the night before, given that behavior. 

Then there was the homeless guy on the street as we were walking that my wife looked at me and asked: "Is that guy dead?"

That's just the fun of SF... It's all the glitz and glamour and all the filth and foul, all put together with not even a blurred line trying to separate them. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: jgvol on January 14, 2025, 11:07:12 AM
I ate here when I was in San Fran.  It was outstanding.  And made the best Old Fashioned as well.

In fact, all the eating in San Fran was about the best I've ever had. 


https://www.harrisrestaurant.com/
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 14, 2025, 11:16:02 AM
we've had exceptional food so far

a mexican spot in Tiburon, then Sam's Anchor Cafe

a Pizza place in Healdsburg, then Willy's seafood

Hod Island oysters for lunch yesterday, the grilled oysters were outstanding

last night the food at the Crow's nest in Santa Cruz was just ordinary bar food, but the sunset was nice

(44) oysters for the four of us in 3 days
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 14, 2025, 11:16:34 AM
Only went to SF once, in 1998.  I didn't have much money and I really just walked/drove around.  Couldn't afford to "do" much.  I remember thinking it was the prettiest city I'd ever seen.  And I'm not much for big cities, so that's saying something. 

Don't have much inclination to go back, but I'm glad I went when I did.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on January 14, 2025, 11:39:15 AM
I ate here when I was in SF. Great food and drinks and an incredible view of the Bay Bridge. 

https://www.epicsteak.com/
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on January 14, 2025, 11:53:26 AM
Epic is a great spot for the view. If you can get in last minute to the House of Prime Rib, it is an old school classic (with a massive waitlist--which is why I've never actually been). San Francisco is full of great food. I'm asking my friends who live out in the Avenues (where you are staying) for some food recommendations. You (Fearless) are between Golden Gate Park and Stern Grove, which is also worth strolling through. You are also near one of the old "suburban" neighborhoods, Saint Francis Wood. You might drive through it just to see a "cleaner" part of the City. Other than Saint Francis Wood, "Billionairs Row" is Broadway in Pacific Heights (looking down on the Marina). That neighboorhood (not just Broadway) is how to live large here.

Staying out in the avenues, you'll avoid some of the grime of the City. Civic Center is ground zero for that, so yeah, if you are trying to avoid it, don't go there.

San Francisco is a "dirty" city--not just the homelessness. It's dusty here. I don't know why. And homelessness has been a problem since at least the 1960s. Lots of complicated reasons for that (including the City's permissive politics). If you take my suggestion and go to the Mission/Mission Dolores, you'll see some homelessness. Particularly on Mission Street. Dolores Park is great, but there will be some dudes hanging out, smoking pot, looking like they haven't showered in ages. No getting away from it there. If you stay out in the Avenues, where you are staying, and around the edge of the City (the Embarcadero, Crissy Field, Golden Gate Park, etc.) you'll see less of it (but not zero). I've been to Portland fairly recently. The cities are just different. But both have the homelessness issue.

Last thing--I'll put it back in my original post (on the smug theory that anyone cares), the transit is really good in SF--although staying out where you are in the Avenues, you will want to drive most places (and park when you are on the East side of the City, closer to the Bay).

Ok--really last thing. If you are coming back up Highway 1, the way you drove down to Monterey (Zuckerberg's site showed me), my favorite redwoods hike in the Bay Area (outside of Muir Woods) is Purisima Creek, accessed from the Highway 1 side. Even if you just walked for 20 minutes from the trailhead, you would love it. It's just on the southern end of Half Moon Bay. I presume that you aren't coming back up Highway 1--taking 101 instead. But if you are: Purisima Creek Trail Head (https://maps.app.goo.gl/bYzHZVdRqMBYG3Xa7). 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on January 14, 2025, 04:00:38 PM
@FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) : Restaurants in the Avenues:
Ofena (Italian on Ocean Ave)
Lion (sushi in West Portal)
Khao Tiew (Thai in West Portal)
Yummy Yummy (pho near GGP)
Marnee (Thai near GGP)


Outer Sunset
Damn Fine Pizza
Outerlands (New American)
Hook Fish (takeout seafood)
Toyose (Korean)
 
Parkside
O’Briens Pub 
Golden Boy Pizza (takeout)
 
West portal
Elena’s (Mexican)
Sushi Sheng
Copper Chimney (Indian)
 
Inner Sunset
Fiorella (Italian)
Ebisu (sushi)
New Eritrea (Ethiopian)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on January 14, 2025, 06:03:05 PM

My view today ftom Costa Maya (https://i.imgur.com/XBU2QPo.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on January 14, 2025, 08:49:09 PM
I still go to SF annually for work.  It's....been in a sad slide .  I inevitably say 'what the F happened...' at some point during my trip.

Having said that,   Fog City Diner still a good call.  I still love Bix too, near Transamerica.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 15, 2025, 05:45:35 AM
Still just as good, once you get used to being knee deep in poop and hypodermic needles. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 15, 2025, 10:15:12 AM
I was planning to ditch the rental car this afternoon and uber the last 3 days in the city......... maybe not?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on January 15, 2025, 11:04:53 AM
Tried to post a pic of my view from a beach in Belize but internet is too slow 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on January 15, 2025, 12:18:03 PM
I was planning to ditch the rental car this afternoon and uber the last 3 days in the city......... maybe not?
Depends on what you want to see. If you plan to spend a day at Golden Gate Park, you don't need a car, but there are some long walks in there. But if you are mixing that with the Presidio or Palace of the Legion of Honor, I think you'd like the flexibility of the car. If you plan to spend time out near the Embarcadero and Fisherman's Wharf, I would take Uber. Same for the Mission District.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 15, 2025, 12:21:02 PM
extended the car

Only $50/day

Uber would have been as much

besides, can't check into the Vrbo and unload bags until 4pm today
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on January 15, 2025, 12:22:23 PM
Still just as good, once you get used to being knee deep in poop and hypodermic needles.
At Civic Center I can see the point, and on Mission Street between 14th and 26th (less so the adjacent streets). I'm in the financial district 4-5 times a week. Either I'm conditioned to it, or it's just not nearly that bad. Obviously I think the latter. The Avenues (west side of the City), the Marina, Pacific Heights? Hardly at all. Visitors don't go to Visitacion Valley, Bayview, or Hunter's Point.
Marq, where are you going/staying?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on January 15, 2025, 09:45:02 PM
Most of my visits are in the Financial District so I stay there, or Embarcadero.    nothing on the books in near term '25.  
Handful of clients to see, sometimes head to Novato.   

interestingly for the first time in my career my industry is having a big Conference in Vegas later this quarter.   That's unusual.   historically that's been verboten in the financial services industry.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 15, 2025, 11:47:27 PM
went thru Gilroy this morning, the Garlic festival wasn't ongoing.........  no garlic ice cream for me

great sunset just south and west of the golden gate bridge

outstanding sushi and japanese at a place a block from Lion called Sushi Suki

our Vrbo is a few blocks away
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 16, 2025, 09:08:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/LCFLiRF.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2025, 10:08:38 AM
much prettier than bait

(https://i.imgur.com/F0XHXbc.jpeg)

top row, right to left, wasabi was hot, sea urchin, duck eggs, fatty tuna

fatty tuna was my fav

the bone on my plate is a beef rib

the most surprising part was that I didn't ask for a fork
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2025, 10:26:16 AM
this sunset

(https://i.imgur.com/uD5Onco.jpeg)

From this location...

(https://i.imgur.com/6CEmaXn.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 16, 2025, 10:33:33 AM
I love sea urchin (uni).
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SuperMario on January 16, 2025, 10:56:26 AM
much prettier than bait

[img width=500 height=374.987]https://i.imgur.com/F0XHXbc.jpeg[/img]

top row, right to left, wasabi was hot, sea urchin, duck eggs, fatty tuna

fatty tuna was my fav

the bone on my plate is a beef rib

the most surprising part was that I didn't ask for a fork
wow that seriously looks so good. Being in Ohio, sushi isn't really a thing. There's a couple places that are somewhat decent, but there's zero comparison to living coastal somewhere in the world. My days in Singapore I probably gobbled it 5 days a week. This plate here looks ridiculously good and fresh
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on January 16, 2025, 10:58:13 AM

much prettier than bait

(https://i.imgur.com/F0XHXbc.jpeg)

top row, right to left, wasabi was hot, sea urchin, duck eggs, fatty tuna

fatty tuna was my fav

the bone on my plate is a beef rib

the most surprising part was that I didn't ask for a fork
Goodness. I would destroy that. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2025, 10:58:22 AM
It was great.  First try for the oldest daughter and I.

Everything there was very fresh and good.  
Including the Salads, cucumber, seaweed, and spinach 

the beer was dry, made in Italy, but Japanese?
Warm Sake was nice on a cool evening.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2025, 10:59:36 AM
being from the midwest, we've been on mostly seafood all week.
Fabulous
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on January 16, 2025, 11:00:02 AM
I love warm sake with my sushi. The faintly buttery aftertaste with the fish is amazing. 


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on January 16, 2025, 12:59:59 PM
Lands End (for the sunset)? Looks great. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2025, 03:41:43 PM
Golden Boy Pizza did not disappoint 
Pictures at 11
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2025, 09:18:36 PM
Goodness. I would destroy that.

sorry, no duck eggs

Quail eggs
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2025, 09:22:58 PM
Golden Boy Pizza did not disappoint
Pictures at 11
(https://i.imgur.com/pPLwRAY.jpeg)

half garlic clam & half peperoni combo

(https://i.imgur.com/7P9s3lq.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 16, 2025, 09:38:44 PM
The rams were out in full force at Valley of Fire.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2025, 11:09:30 PM
how do they taste?

BBQ???
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 17, 2025, 08:48:31 AM
half garlic clam & half peperoni combo

(https://i.imgur.com/7P9s3lq.jpeg)
Pepperoni pizza for breakfast?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 17, 2025, 11:04:50 AM
lunch
might be breakfast in a few minutes
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 17, 2025, 10:45:05 PM

If you had to eat the same meal for breakfast, lunch and dinner, seven days a week, what would you pick? 

Would you allow yourself to be influenced by the egg lobby?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2025, 12:11:28 AM
I don't enjoy eggs that much

probably be beef for me
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2025, 12:15:17 AM
Tried a hot pot place for the first time tonight

very good, way too much food

https://mumuhotpot.com/ (https://mumuhotpot.com/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 18, 2025, 09:16:28 AM
If you had to eat the same meal for breakfast, lunch and dinner, seven days a week, what would you pick?

Would you allow yourself to be influenced by the egg lobby?
Caesar salad, King Crab Legs, baked potato, asparagus.

No.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 27, 2025, 09:32:22 AM
We've been away for nearly three weeks, glad to be home, though it's a dreary day here.  

January is "baseball week" for me, I still try and play some, I have a lot of fun.  We first went to a condo in Orlando so I'd be somewhat assured of weather in which I could run and workout some more.  It started getting cool of course, and when we got to North Port it was bordering on chilly, but we had no rain like last year.  We had 63 players at Camp "B", the second of two, 6 were new (rookies) and 57 of us were returnees (vets), some like me with more than ten camps.  

The coaches (ex-pros, neat guys) have an "eval day" where we go through stations, they look at pitching and hitting mostly (off a machine).  I had not hit nor caught a thrown ball since last year's camp.  I wondered how my new "eyes" would function, which turned out to be "better but still not great".  I need some time on a hitting machine before I go, I tend to pull off the ball.

I got on what turned out to be a fun group but we lost both games  the first day which basically cements your fate, two teams ended 6-1 so we were already out of the CG in effect.  I mostly played first base and did fine, at least I'm a tall target.  The runners mostly are slow so at 1B you can pull of the bag usually to catch a short hop etc. and get back in time.  The average age is around 50, three guys are older than me, some are in the 30s and can still play and run pretty well.  We went 1-1 the next day and then won the rest of our games.  We played a night game in the main stadium which was pretty neat, I got to pitch some and did "OK", I was less happy with my efforts than my coaches claimed they were.  I struck out the first batter than then things kind of went to pot a bit, I made a throwing error trying to lob the ball to first, stupid play on my part.

In our final game, I got a hit and the next batter hit a "gapper" and I had to run hard first to home and twinged a hammy a bit rounding third.  I kind of shook it off, but the last day everyone is hurting, me less than many.  Probably ten percent of players by then are unable to run at all.  My next at bat I swung hard and missed and the hammy went kind of "sproing".  I backed away and tried to take a swing and basically couldn't, so I begged off, but there is no rule apparently, so I said I'd stay in a take pitches.  The game was tied with two men on late in the game and two out, maybe I'd walk.  The pitcher, who is a cool dude, saw this and told me he'd throw a cookie down the middle which he did and somehow I roped one down the RF line (I'm left handed batting).  I had a courtesy runner, so I didn't have to make it to second myself.  So, we won, I felt pretty good about that and thanked the pitcher for the cookie.  It was my best hit of the week.  The harder hit balls I had before that were mostly "atem balls".

So, it's akin to hitting a great tee shot on 18 after a frustrating day at the links.  I'll be back next year.  Ha.  It's my incentive to "stay in shape" year round.  If you like playing baseball, I highly recommend the experience.  A lot of teams have camps before spring training and they all are fun I hear.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 27, 2025, 09:38:49 AM
After baseball, I drove to Hllton Head (another condo) for a week and got in the massive snow storm that happened.

This is my "recovery week", my hammy was OK in a couple days.  The snow depth was 2-3" but it was the very fine cold granular show we got up north a lot, not the heavy wet snow more common in the south.  It caused quite a mess with the bridges, most stuff was closed for two days.  My wife was not amused.

"Go to the beach, they said, it'll be warm and sunny!"

It's usually decent weather there in January and by Saturday the day was nice, but we left Sunday, with snow still in the shady areas.  We did have some good, and some mediocre sea food.  We went to the Jazz Corner which is superb.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Gigem on January 27, 2025, 09:52:55 AM
We've been away for nearly three weeks, glad to be home, though it's a dreary day here. 

January is "baseball week" for me, I still try and play some, I have a lot of fun.  We first went to a condo in Orlando so I'd be somewhat assured of weather in which I could run and workout some more.  It started getting cool of course, and when we got to North Port it was bordering on chilly, but we had no rain like last year.  We had 63 players at Camp "B", the second of two, 6 were new (rookies) and 57 of us were returnees (vets), some like me with more than ten camps. 

The coaches (ex-pros, neat guys) have an "eval day" where we go through stations, they look at pitching and hitting mostly (off a machine).  I had not hit nor caught a thrown ball since last year's camp.  I wondered how my new "eyes" would function, which turned out to be "better but still not great".  I need some time on a hitting machine before I go, I tend to pull off the ball.

I got on what turned out to be a fun group but we lost both games  the first day which basically cements your fate, two teams ended 6-1 so we were already out of the CG in effect.  I mostly played first base and did fine, at least I'm a tall target.  The runners mostly are slow so at 1B you can pull of the bag usually to catch a short hop etc. and get back in time.  The average age is around 50, three guys are older than me, some are in the 30s and can still play and run pretty well.  We went 1-1 the next day and then won the rest of our games.  We played a night game in the main stadium which was pretty neat, I got to pitch some and did "OK", I was less happy with my efforts than my coaches claimed they were.  I struck out the first batter than then things kind of went to pot a bit, I made a throwing error trying to lob the ball to first, stupid play on my part.

In our final game, I got a hit and the next batter hit a "gapper" and I had to run hard first to home and twinged a hammy a bit rounding third.  I kind of shook it off, but the last day everyone is hurting, me less than many.  Probably ten percent of players by then are unable to run at all.  My next at bat I swung hard and missed and the hammy went kind of "sproing".  I backed away and tried to take a swing and basically couldn't, so I begged off, but there is no rule apparently, so I said I'd stay in a take pitches.  The game was tied with two men on late in the game and two out, maybe I'd walk.  The pitcher, who is a cool dude, saw this and told me he'd throw a cookie down the middle which he did and somehow I roped one down the RF line (I'm left handed batting).  I had a courtesy runner, so I didn't have to make it to second myself.  So, we won, I felt pretty good about that and thanked the pitcher for the cookie.  It was my best hit of the week.  The harder hit balls I had before that were mostly "atem balls".

So, it's akin to hitting a great tee shot on 18 after a frustrating day at the links.  I'll be back next year.  Ha.  It's my incentive to "stay in shape" year round.  If you like playing baseball, I highly recommend the experience.  A lot of teams have camps before spring training and they all are fun I hear.
Cincy, did you play college ball?  Or any other level?  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 27, 2025, 10:02:42 AM
I played in HS.  My junior year I hurt my arm pitching in the first game of the year which sort of ended my career, such as it was.  I had it repaired, finally, three years ago.  The doc said it was a mess.  I can throw now without pain but not that well.  I once had a 'live arm' back in the day.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 27, 2025, 10:39:06 AM
This is very Nice.

Nice bans cruise ships, saying 'low-cost clientele have no place here' (https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/nice-bans-cruise-ships-saying-low-cost-clientele-have-no-place-here/ar-AA1xVF7s?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=378ccb3a64474c85a684fae04e0c6e8f&ei=11)
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Post by: utee94 on January 27, 2025, 11:21:58 AM
Yup, that's so very Nice.

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Post by: 847badgerfan on January 27, 2025, 11:24:53 AM
I guess it's good that the ships we use only hold 700 passengers.
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Post by: Cincydawg on January 27, 2025, 03:27:10 PM
In the next two months, I'll be in Boston, Paris, Seoul, and much of Asia.  Film at 11.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 27, 2025, 03:28:11 PM
In the next two months, I'll be in Cedar Park, Austin, Round Rock, and perhaps Pflugerville.

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Post by: 847badgerfan on January 27, 2025, 03:35:56 PM
Punta Gorda, Sarasota, Naples, Fort Myers Beach.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 27, 2025, 09:55:17 PM
This is very Nice.

Nice bans cruise ships, saying 'low-cost clientele have no place here' (https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/nice-bans-cruise-ships-saying-low-cost-clientele-have-no-place-here/ar-AA1xVF7s?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=378ccb3a64474c85a684fae04e0c6e8f&ei=11)
I fit in that category
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 27, 2025, 09:57:00 PM
In the next two months, I'll be in Nebraska, South Dakota. Iowa, Austin, Round Rock, and perhaps Colleyville.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2025, 07:34:08 AM
Nice is very snooty, my wife doesn't like going there at all.  St. Tropez of course is the same, but they do allow massive yachts in their harbor.  Truly massive.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 28, 2025, 11:24:33 AM
I like Nice,  but it's definitely snooty.  Same is true for pretty much the entire Côte d'Azur.

Luckily my first time there I had locals to guide me to the best spots with the most authentic places and the fewest tourists, so when I returned a few years later with my i s c & a aggie wife, we really had a great time.  

But of course, some of those spots are touristy because they're awesome, can't really completely avoid it.  Just have to deal with it.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2025, 11:38:44 AM
I've mentioned going to Nice to the wife a few times and she's just flat said NO.  We have been briefly in the past.  I didn't get much of a take on it.

I do prefer smaller cities and villages in general, Saumur was quite nice I thought.  And they have the Musee des Blindes.  

Bayeux was very nice.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on January 28, 2025, 11:42:06 AM
This years travels are:

 7 days in Hawaii in March.  

In April/May, we will be gone 38 days. Cruise across the atlantic from San Juan to Lisbon.  On to Gilbrator, 3 stops in Spain, 2 stops in Southern France, 4 stops in Italy, 2 days in Egypt, 2 stops in Greece, Cypress, ending with a couple of days in Istanbul. 

July a Carribean Cruise going because some friends asked us to join them. 

August a cruise up the New England and Canadian coast. having family and friends from the area joining us. 

also Have a trip to Oregon for one of my kids 40th birthday and a trip to Ohio for one of my kids wedding.

We made a decision when we retired last year to travel extensively for 2 years and then buy a couple of rocking chairs and get 2 cats and relax, then just making a trip or 2 a year. 


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2025, 11:44:19 AM
We continue to talk about what to do after this rash in Asia.  We probably are "done" with Asia and will concentrate on Europe.  I also enjoy visiting local state parks around here a good bit, more relaxing and enjoyable without the travel stress of flying etc.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on January 28, 2025, 11:46:47 AM
I've mentioned going to Nice to the wife a few times and she's just flat said NO.  We have been briefly in the past.  I didn't get much of a take on it.

I do prefer smaller cities and villages in general, Saumur was quite nice I thought.  And they have the Musee des Blindes. 

Bayeux was very nice.


Going to go up to Avignon visit the palais de papes, the roman aquaducts.  Been there once before but that was 1977 I went on a tour of france with my French club while in High School, saw paris, avignon, Nimes, Nice, Monte Carlo.  Memories are fading time to renew them.  Did Paris last year, will hit some of the others this year. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on January 28, 2025, 11:49:06 AM
The South of France is probably my favorite region in the entire world.  There are parts of Italy and Spain I love almost as much, but if I had to choose just one, it would be Southern France.

And like CD said, it's the smaller towns and villages that are the best.  You can still see truly authentic French living in those places, and the people are very, very nice.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2025, 11:50:01 AM
We spent a week in Avignon with our "wine class" folks a few years back.  It was a good trip, we did day trips in a minivan driving out to various and sundry.

A really neat place, I thought, is the old mental hospital in St. Remy de Provence where van Gogh was housed for a while.  That sounds boring, but was excellent I thought.

Gorges was interesting as well, a lot of stuff around there of note.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on January 29, 2025, 10:14:54 PM
I might even make the effort to go here

I found the ultimate sun-soaked getaway with 300 days of sunshine, warm seas, beaches, amazing food and a fascinating history

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/visited-island-300-days-sunshine-34561995 (https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/visited-island-300-days-sunshine-34561995)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on January 30, 2025, 08:33:18 AM
I've mentioned before how much we enjoyed Zion NP, I want to go back.

we visited Glacier but it was very cloudy and the road was not yet open.

I'm reading that the Ocmulgee Indian Mounds near Macon, GA may become an NP.  That's a bit odd to me, but OK.  The Etowah Indian Mounds are also notable.  The "mound builders" are an interesting topic I think.

Chamonix in the French Alps is a place I'd like to revisit.  Iceland looks pretty neat also.
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Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2025, 02:31:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/u9UTUVa.png)
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Post by: FearlessF on January 31, 2025, 03:41:17 PM
9 of them
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Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2025, 04:03:59 PM
The two in greenish apparently are kind of not accepted as being relevant.
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Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2025, 04:57:40 PM
Getting visas is not really much fun at all, and not cheap.
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Post by: Riffraft on January 31, 2025, 06:56:18 PM
In Oregon for my sons 40th birthday. It is as rainy and dreary as I remember it.  My wife says it explains why kirk Cobain killed himself living in the northwest
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 02, 2025, 02:25:58 PM
We're off to Boston Tuesday for a symphony event.  My wife wants lobster (which I personally don't particularly like).  Any suggestions?  We're staying downtown "Back Bay".
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 02, 2025, 02:37:52 PM
Atlantic Fish Company is really good.
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Post by: FearlessF on February 02, 2025, 04:56:06 PM
been over 30 years since I've been in Boston
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Post by: Riffraft on February 03, 2025, 01:18:10 PM
We're off to Boston Tuesday for a symphony event.  My wife wants lobster (which I personally don't particularly like).  Any suggestions?  We're staying downtown "Back Bay".
Wife says "legal seafood"  but anywhere near the aquarium should have good lobster

Want a great desert she says Mike's pastries in the north end. Worth making the time
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 03, 2025, 02:10:01 PM
Gaga Seafood Restaurant - Takeaway food - Boston - Order online (https://www.gagaseafood.com/)

ROW 34 | Home (https://www.row34.com/)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 03, 2025, 08:52:36 PM
We're off to Boston Tuesday for a symphony event.  My wife wants lobster (which I personally don't particularly like).  Any suggestions?  We're staying downtown "Back Bay".
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/08/article-2214712-15696DE8000005DC-887_634x523.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 04, 2025, 03:29:23 PM
In downtown Boston checked in.  
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 04, 2025, 11:13:03 PM
Here's a good English to Boston translator. 

https://www.accenterator.com/boston.php
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 05, 2025, 08:29:40 AM
https://www.bso.org/events/stravinsky-firebird

This is why we flew here.  It’s very cold and windy.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on February 05, 2025, 08:34:13 AM
Why torture yourself?
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 05, 2025, 08:41:58 AM
Too hot at home.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 05, 2025, 08:49:15 PM
Atlantic Seafood was a huge hit.   Excellent.  
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Post by: FearlessF on February 05, 2025, 08:50:41 PM
lobster?
oysters?
crab cakes??
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 05, 2025, 08:59:24 PM
Had oysters to start, wife had lobster, I had scallops.  Lobster $50, a steal. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on February 07, 2025, 08:19:43 AM
@Cincydawg (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=870) may want to reconsider his travels.

Weekend winter storm eyes same Midwest, Northeast cities already hit this week | Fox Weather (https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/winter-storm-snow-ice-midwest-northeast-weekend)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 07, 2025, 08:55:20 AM
supposedly staying north of me
hopefully, they're correct
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 07, 2025, 10:23:52 AM
We fly back Sunday then off to Paris Tuesday.  Windy here today.  
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Post by: utee94 on February 07, 2025, 10:29:20 AM
Man, Paris in springtime is cold enough, but Paris in winter?  Oof.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 07, 2025, 05:36:15 PM
Man, Paris in springtime is cold enough, but Paris in winter?  Oof.
I’m tough.   Fewer tourists.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 07, 2025, 05:38:42 PM
Yeah, I loved the Cinque Terre in late March and Paris at the beginning of April. I understand that's when people don't go there. Which is why it was the perfect time to go there. 

IOW, I don't like people. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 07, 2025, 05:39:57 PM
Paris in springtime sucked.  Cold and cloudy and rainy.  No thanks.

Heck I've been in late May and it was still too cool for me. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 07, 2025, 05:40:55 PM
We had an interesting tour of Boston Symphony Hall today, concert is tomorrow with Natalie Stutzman directing with dinner and reception. 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 07, 2025, 06:22:30 PM
Paris in springtime sucked.  Cold and cloudy and rainy.  No thanks.

Heck I've been in late May and it was still too cool for me. 
I'll suffer the weather to avoid people. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 07, 2025, 09:09:17 PM
that's my philosophy in NW Iowa
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on February 08, 2025, 06:33:27 PM
Had a gorgeous week in Phoenix this week.   Two solid golf rounds to boot.   Cool mornings, warm afternoon.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 08, 2025, 06:48:38 PM
Had a gorgeous week in Phoenix this week.  Two solid golf rounds to boot.  Cool mornings, warm afternoon. 
Only two rounds?

What happened? You didn't make the cut? (https://www.espn.com/golf/leaderboard) 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 08, 2025, 10:53:34 PM
The concert was fabulous and we got back before much snow.  Hoping flight tomorrow is not delayed.  9:45 am.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on February 09, 2025, 01:17:14 PM
I've been to the Phoenix Open it's not my cup of tea (supercharged bro fest/meatheads),  rather play when out there this time of year.    we do have a client with a very nice 'sky box' set up and that's a bit more subdued.   
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Post by: FearlessF on February 09, 2025, 01:20:35 PM
yup, a group of meathead bros want me to join them every year out there

I tell them I'd rather play

they say that they play 36 the day before and the day after

maybe if I could hook up in a skybox
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2025, 07:40:51 AM
My wife was concerned about the Boston trip because of the quick turn around leaving for Paris tomorrow, but at least the flight is late, 11 PM departure.  She agreed we had a good time despite the weather being so cold, we came back to 70°F weather. which we have today.  It reminded how much I loathed Cincy winters.  She gets a bit "rattled" before a big trip at times, nerves and whatnot kind of.  I spent time on the Interwebz searching this new visa requirement for Europe but apparently it's not in place, yet, apparently, their site is not very forthcoming.  Another way to get money.

Speaking of, I've spent over a grand on visas for our Asia cruise.  A search takes you to multiple visa companies who charge extra of course, it's not easy to find the government visa site, which is easier and cheaper by a lot.  I didn't figure this out until after I paid some bozos extra to do Korea for us.  This seems like a scam to me anyway, the visas come in a few days, not enough time for more than some cursory search of our backgrounds.

And they are only good for a month usually.  A Brazil visa was ten years at least when I had to get one.  I recall mailing my passport off to get it stamped, which made me nervous.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 10, 2025, 09:55:07 AM
Yeah, when I was going to China the visa there was only for a year. They now offer 10-year visas. Apparently it's quite an involved process, where you need some sort of a "referral" type letter from a Chinese citizen. This was all for work, though, and they handled everything. It didn't cost me anything nor did I have to do any of the leg work. 

I don't recall ever needing a visa to visit Taiwan, Malaysia, or Thailand. 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2025, 10:02:13 AM
Impressions of Boston ...

This was my second visit, the first we stayed at a friends house in the suburbs but toured a good bit.  This time we stayed in "Back Bay", rather close to Fenway Park and NE University.  The Museum of Fine Art Boston is quite impressive, I usually eschew art museums, I enjoyed this one.  The other one nearby, the Isabella Stewart Garner museum was ... a bit odd for us.  We had a lot of good food, some of the meals were part of our visiting group.  We had a nice tour of Music Hall where we later attended a concert with the Atlanta Music Director directing the BSO (Natalie Stutzman).  This was her directorial debut there though she had sung opera there several times dating back decades.  She was a contralto back when.  We enjoyed the concert a lot.

The buildings are fairly old in that area, there are some parks around that would be nice in spring.  I noticed a lot of young Asians, probably students at NE or the other Us in that area.  A Lyft to the airport was about $35 though it's close to downtown.  We walked otherwise.  It was cold but we noted some folks in shorts and a lot more in light coats while we were in heavy coats and glovers and scarves and hoods.  There were some homeless around which I thought a bit odd in the weather.  Maybe they found a shelter somewhere.  

The streets are not in good shape, and oddly street signs were often missing, making navigation a bit of a chore.  There are some taller buildings dotted around, most are 4-5-6 floors apartment style.  We were near the indoor Prudential Mall with a lot of shops, another adjacent mall had high end stores, both were pretty crowded with folks, which I thought unexpected with malls disappearing.  This allowed us to stay inside walking in one direction at least.  

Food was good but pricier than here.  Some places had a 3.5% surcharge.  We'd like to go back, maybe in June.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2025, 10:04:09 AM
I got visas for Korea, India, Thailand, Vietnnam, and Sri Lanka.  Hong Kong doesn't require one.  Korea didn't last year.  Two Korean visas cost me $500 but that was before I figured out how to "do it myself".
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on February 10, 2025, 11:48:15 AM
I routinely visit Boston for work.

Tell everyone, never rent a car. Most walkable city in US.
Take the T in and out of Logan (even w the free  short shuttle bus from Logan to the T station).

The Seaport district is about the only 'new' part of Boston, south of the financial district,  and mostly owned by Fidelity. 

Yeah some of the roads are hideous and still brick pavers.  
North end is America's best Little Italy.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 12, 2025, 10:07:48 AM
France is predictably dreary and cold.  Got into our apartment.   Feel ok.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 12, 2025, 10:17:02 AM
NW Iowa is predictably dreary and cold this morning.  4 above and snow showers.
but, I didn't have to go that far.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 12, 2025, 10:31:39 AM
Austin is predictably dreary and cold, although the rain is done and it's supposed to be 68 and sunny this afternoon.  
That's acceptable winter weather.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 12, 2025, 12:33:17 PM
We should move there …..
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 12, 2025, 03:00:14 PM
my weather has not been acceptable lately
I really should move somewhere
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 12, 2025, 03:02:41 PM
my weather has not been acceptable lately
I really should move somewhere
Plenty of space in badgerfan's neighborhood.  Bwar's, too.  They both have perfect weather!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 12, 2025, 04:18:36 PM
Plenty of space in badgerfan's neighborhood.  Bwar's, too.  They both have perfect weather!

No it's terrible.

(https://i.imgur.com/6wurZ0q.png)

Trust me, FF, you'll see tomorrow in the coverage at Torrey Pines. It's dreadful. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 12, 2025, 04:38:21 PM
no worries
too expensive there

if someone gave me a house, I couldn't afford to live there

and I don't cornsider wild fires to be weather, but............
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 12, 2025, 05:38:49 PM
Going back through the early posts here. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on February 13, 2025, 05:47:31 PM
Not reading all 144 pages; anyone here have an opinion on Cabo San Lucas?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 13, 2025, 06:04:45 PM
Not reading all 144 pages; anyone here have an opinion on Cabo San Lucas?
I know badgerfan likes it.

But I don't, I much prefer the Caribbean side.  Water is prettier and much warmer and is actually swimmable, they don't have the vicious riptides that the Cabos do.  The diving and snorkeling are excellent even along the mainland, and even better across at Cozumel. 

My faves are Playa del Carmen and Isla Mujeres.  You get to them by flying into Cancun, but Cancun is way too "massive high-rise hotel" for me.

But if you like sport-fishing, then Cabo is definitely the place to go.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 13, 2025, 10:11:12 PM
Cabo is too much like Southern Southern California for me - folks speak english, and use american dollars, and prices are HIGH

I prefer the Pacific side to the Caribbean side of Mexico, but I'm not much for watersports

Puerto Vallarta, Manzanillo, Zihuatanejo, Acapulco
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 13, 2025, 11:23:25 PM
Been in Fontainebleau in nice apartment seeing friends. Heading to Paris today.  Damp cold.  We might come back to this apt for a few weeks sometime.   
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 14, 2025, 07:56:59 AM
Not reading all 144 pages; anyone here have an opinion on Cabo San Lucas?
Cabo is a nice place. When we go we rent a house in Pedregal. It's a good base and we can get to town any time we want. We hit up Costco and the fishermen and generally cook our meals.


Pedregal | Pedregal Cabo San Lucas (https://cabo.pedregal.com/pedregal-cabo-san-lucas/)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on February 14, 2025, 08:02:22 AM
We've had more days below freezing in Feb/Jan and I don't think it's particularly close
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2025, 08:35:06 AM
6 degrees in Paris and sunny.  No wind. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 14, 2025, 08:35:39 AM
6 degrees in Paris and sunny.  No wind.
Celsius?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 14, 2025, 08:37:30 AM
Kelvin.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on February 14, 2025, 08:56:26 AM
Kelvin.
Damn, I thought it's been cold here in Minnesota.

Anyone here been to Vienna? I know it's the birthplace of croissants and coffee houses, but that's about all I know.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 14, 2025, 08:59:05 AM
We've had more days below freezing in Feb/Jan and I don't think it's particularly close
sending a cold blast your way
supposed to warm up to 28 this afternoon - but windy
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2025, 11:04:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EidfJwN.jpeg)
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Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2025, 11:06:21 AM
Never heard of any of them, but I bet they're all better than Kronenbourg.
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Post by: FearlessF on February 14, 2025, 12:18:32 PM
I'd try the Tigre Bock outta that lineup but not expect much from a Blonde
if that's what it says
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2025, 12:43:55 PM
The one called eau was weak as water.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2025, 12:44:39 PM
And I’m sick.  Probably a cold.  
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Post by: FearlessF on February 14, 2025, 01:11:55 PM
better not be the Euro flu
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2025, 03:27:03 PM
Kids had flu earlier this week.  Everybody at their school had the flu earlier this week.  So far I seem to have escaped it, I guess there's some good to come from teenagers having no desire to associate with their parents. :)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on February 14, 2025, 05:10:17 PM
sending a cold blast your way
supposed to warm up to 28 this afternoon - but windy
16-18-20-22-24-doesn't matter anymore this is like I recall it use to be.Only haven't gotten hammered by snow.Been a sheet of Ice on my drive for 5 days,tried calcium cloride it burned some holes but refroze later. Suns been out but in low-mid 20s.Can't find anyone interested in Ice Fishing - old fooks
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2025, 09:06:02 PM
Classic cold symptoms and I can’t sleep. It’s 3 AM. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 14, 2025, 09:23:56 PM
16-18-20-22-24-doesn't matter anymore this is like I recall it use to be.Only haven't gotten hammered by snow.Been a sheet of Ice on my drive for 5 days,tried calcium cloride it burned some holes but refroze later. Suns been out but in low-mid 20s.Can't find anyone interested in Ice Fishing - old fooks
you need some below zero stuff
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 15, 2025, 04:29:05 AM
Fine dining.  

(https://i.imgur.com/ScgXd1J.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 17, 2025, 09:26:55 AM
Today is the first day in three I have left the hotel…. To go across the street for an excellent lunch, but I’m still dragging, and we have a dinner en famile tonight.  This cold hit me hard. 

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasserie_Mollard

This place is a work of art.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 17, 2025, 09:38:59 AM
glad you're feeling somewhat better
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 17, 2025, 10:09:41 AM
I blame Paris in wintertime.  Get well soon, and drink some Bordeaux for me.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2025, 10:52:39 PM
Now my wife is sick.   We have encountered a number of ugly loud obnoxious Americans.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 20, 2025, 12:22:44 PM
Paris in February ....

Clearly not the best time to go though there aren't many tourists.  I had a bad cold that kept me in the hotel room most of three days.  we still managed to encounter several noisy impolite "ugly" Americans in restaurants and hotel lobbies, it's embarassing.  I managed to walk around a bit our last day to learn a bit more of the 8th.  Haussman did a fine job of urban renewal back in the day making the Paris of post cards, but the area outside the Peripherique (circle highway) is ... unimpressive, utilitarian looking.

So, kind of a bummer trip, my wife had some banking stuff she finally got attended to.

We had lunch at one restaurant I mentioned that was excellent, wish we had something like that around here.  We had another lunch almost next door that was not good at all (not McDs).  

Hotels were $300 per night, paid upfront no refunds, which is steep of course.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 20, 2025, 12:25:30 PM
Paris in February ....

Clearly not the best time to go though there aren't many tourists.
The second a result of the first, obviously.

Sorry you were sick, that sucks.  Hope you still managed to choke down some delicious French wine.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 20, 2025, 12:25:44 PM
What did the ugly Americans do?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 20, 2025, 12:29:29 PM
In one case, we're in a restaurant and a group of them nearish us were just very loud and boisterous.  One had his phone with a lound rung tone, and it often would ring and he'd apparently look at it for 3-4 rings before answering, on voice, out loud.  Then his group got even louder to talk over him.  Mostly the groups were being very inconsiderate of others with noisy conversations.  

Some people have loud voices that carry, I don't know why, maybe they are deafish.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 20, 2025, 12:30:00 PM

we still managed to encounter several noisy impolite "ugly" Americans in restaurants and hotel lobbies, it's embarassing.
Yeah, when I travel I definitely want to be the exact opposite of the Ugly American. 

Which made my Ireland trip with the in-laws very difficult.


As the kids would say... Cringe.

You just can't take some people anywhere...

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 20, 2025, 12:35:57 PM
In one case, we're in a restaurant and a group of them nearish us were just very loud and boisterous.  One had his phone with a lound rung tone, and it often would ring and he'd apparently look at it for 3-4 rings before answering, on voice, out loud.  Then his group got even louder to talk over him.  Mostly the groups were being very inconsiderate of others with noisy conversations. 

Some people have loud voices that carry, I don't know why, maybe they are deafish.
so, like most folks from NYC or Chicago?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 20, 2025, 12:49:23 PM
One group had New Jersey accents I thought.  They seem oblivious to their surroundings.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 20, 2025, 01:11:15 PM
Whenever I think about a NJ accent, it's always saying something horrible, like Joe Pesci might say.

"C'mon. Lemme kill him. I'll make it look like an accident."
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on February 20, 2025, 01:42:27 PM
Yeah, when I travel I definitely want to be the exact opposite of the Ugly American.
  • One of our last days in an Uber in Dublin, MIL is asking the Uber driver in an incredulous tone "What's with all the graffiti?" Really? That's what you, who grew up in LA County, want to ask? You think European cities won't have graffiti?
GIs shouldn't have left "Kilroy was here" all across Western Europe
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 20, 2025, 01:50:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2JfXpv2.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on February 20, 2025, 01:58:49 PM
You get a Yuengling Junior
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 20, 2025, 02:03:43 PM
that'll be a nice upgrade from that crappy Texas beer
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 20, 2025, 02:10:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/amMsOqA.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on February 20, 2025, 02:13:22 PM
Love it!
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 20, 2025, 02:18:05 PM
so, DON'T move to Texas
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on February 20, 2025, 02:18:58 PM
Obviously.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MrNubbz on February 20, 2025, 03:03:48 PM
Beer Popsicles
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on February 24, 2025, 10:35:45 AM
I'm in the process of planning a golf staycation (which is funny, because I suck at golf). It turns out there are a lot of great courses around here.

I'm curious if this crowd has a perspective on the kinds of courses to include on a multi-course trip?

This one is going to be a warm-up muni (with amazing views for a muni), then a world-class, difficult, club course that makes appearances in PGA/US Open golf, then a coastal course for the views.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 24, 2025, 10:51:16 AM
sounds like you have a good mix for me
obviously depends on your group
it's nice to play a PGA course or one very exclusive once in a while
with the right buddies, I can have as much fun on a decent muni for way less money
nobody likes crappy courses that aren't maintained
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 25, 2025, 01:17:19 PM
Nobody?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on February 25, 2025, 06:56:43 PM
nobody that cornsiders themselves a golfer
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 25, 2025, 07:20:25 PM
I've never been on a "golf trip". My FIL and I played one round of golf when we went to Ireland, but it wasn't a "golf trip". At the hotel bar in Dublin we saw a group of Americans multiple nights that were obviously there on a "golf trip"--they looked ridiculously smashed at all times. 

So as much as I play golf, I'm no help when it comes to planning a golf trip. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on February 27, 2025, 10:06:26 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/hfI2jOm.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on March 07, 2025, 08:44:36 PM
Spent the week in Fort Lauderdale for a conference.   Spring break debauchery at hotel bar and of course at that filthy Elbow room.


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 07, 2025, 09:18:51 PM
I'm too old for that stuff
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 11, 2025, 03:41:31 AM
I should be in bed.  Through security.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 11, 2025, 09:26:32 AM
another annoyance with traveling

and every 6 months I hear from some doctor/expert that switching clocks an hour is detrimental to your heath 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 11, 2025, 10:12:37 AM
Speaking of, in the AA lounge and some family has three young kids running around screaming.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 11, 2025, 10:50:24 AM
travelling with young kids is brutal
God bless them for accomplishing that task
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on March 11, 2025, 10:54:55 AM
Airline lounges ain't what they used to be.  Glad I rarely travel for work anymore.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 11, 2025, 10:57:48 AM
Speaking of, in the AA lounge and some family has three young kids running around screaming. 
They should be kicked out.

The parents, not the kids.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 11, 2025, 11:24:57 AM
Southwest Airlines ending the free checked bag policy... FFS.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 11, 2025, 11:35:41 AM
always gave them an advantage with me
I almost always just check my bag
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 11, 2025, 11:44:07 AM
I hate checking my bag b/c I hate waiting around baggage claim, but when I'm traveling with my wife she always needs to check one, so I usually check mine as we're going to be waiting around baggage claim anyway, so I don't have to lug it around the terminal. 

I generally fly American, where I have the AAdvantage branded credit card so they exempt us from baggage fees, or Southwest where they didn't charge. 

Now, with Southwest starting to charge, I'm going to have the worst of both worlds... Still have to wait at baggage claim b/c my wife does, but will have to lug mine around the terminal. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on March 11, 2025, 11:46:24 AM
That's gonna piss off a lot of their loyal customers, I think. 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on March 11, 2025, 11:48:56 AM
Southwest Airlines ending the free checked bag policy... FFS.
Massive strategic error.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on March 11, 2025, 12:11:10 PM
We never check bags.  Even when we were gone for 30 days last year, we both took one carry on and one backpack each for all our things. We did laundry twice during the trip.  I just don't trust the airlines not to lose our baggage and I hate waiting to get my baggage after the flight.

We are going on a 38 day trip in April/May, we are debating whether to check a bag this time, but I am still leaning to just doing the 2 carryons and 2 backpacks. 

Where the changes in Southwest hurt us, is the expiration of the flight.

We generally fly Southwest.  We have a southwest credit card where we charge almost all of our expenses.  Because of this we spent enough to earn a free companion pass for the year, every year for the past few years.  And then with the points earned we purchase many if not most of our flights with points and then companion free. So we fly completely free for most of our flight.  The only disadvantage is we fly quite a bit east and there are very few direct flights (another reason not to check bags)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 11, 2025, 12:19:41 PM
We never check bags.  Even when we were gone for 30 days last year, we both took one carry on and one backpack each for all our things. We did laundry twice during the trip.  I just don't trust the airlines not to lose our baggage and I hate waiting to get my baggage after the flight.
not many bags are lost
the wait at baggage is usually 10 minutes or so
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on March 11, 2025, 12:23:10 PM
Yeah I don't mind checking bags.  The wait is rarely THAT long and the only time the airline has ever lost my bag was my first trip to France, 30 years ago.

And when I'm traveling with my i s c & a aggie wife, checking bags is the only option.  It can be a 2-day weekend trip and I'm still going to have to get out our personal baggage scale to make sure she didn't break 50 lbs.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 11, 2025, 12:34:44 PM
Yeah I don't mind checking bags.  The wait is rarely THAT long and the only time the airline has ever lost my bag was my first trip to France, 30 years ago.

And when I'm traveling with my i s c & a aggie wife, checking bags is the only option.  It can be a 2-day weekend trip and I'm still going to have to get out our personal baggage scale to make sure she didn't break 50 lbs.
Yep. For my wife it isn't so much the quantity of stuff she packs, it's that there's all sort of makeup, and she likes to have her own shampoo/conditioner brands rather than what the hotels supply, so there's liquids that either can't be checked or would be a PITA to pull out at security. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: jgvol on March 11, 2025, 12:42:55 PM
Knock on wood...I've never had a real issue with checking bags, nor waiting around at the baggage claim.

At "good" airports, my bags are usually circling the trolley before I get down to the baggage claim.  Grab'em and go.

Probably just jinxed myself --- flying out to SLC in the AM.  I am sure to have a lost bag now.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 11, 2025, 05:10:48 PM
We check bags - we have top priority with AA, so they always come out first.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 11, 2025, 05:24:21 PM

We check bags - we have top priority with AA, so they always come out first.
Have you traveled so much as to make Million Miler? 

I was about 1/3 of the way, but then COVID came and my job role changed, and I haven't really done any real business travel in 5 years. 

I've had a coworker who was at 1M, and another who was over 2M with American. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 11, 2025, 05:25:54 PM
Not a million miler, but enough combined with the credit card that we get the top tier or second tier every year.

I think I'm at 450K miles. Doubt I'll get to a million.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 11, 2025, 05:29:27 PM
Not a million miler, but enough combined with the credit card that we get the top tier or second tier every year.

I think I'm at 450K miles. Doubt I'll get to a million.
Yeah, my one big year was the year that I crossed the Pacific multiple times. Those who were at 1M and 2M were crossing the Pacific multiple times a year for... many years. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 11, 2025, 07:48:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlDXQdgx_QU
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 11, 2025, 10:41:40 PM
Yeah, my one big year was the year that I crossed the Pacific multiple times. Those who were at 1M and 2M were crossing the Pacific multiple times a year for... many years.


Why not engineer a tunnel through the Earth? 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 12, 2025, 01:26:03 AM
Why not engineer a tunnel through the Earth?
The whole liquid hot magma thing is a bit of a constraint... 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 12, 2025, 05:03:24 AM
In hotel.  Caught the Prop Crew off guard it is very foggy.   Longest flight of my life. 15:20 hours. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on March 12, 2025, 07:31:09 AM

not many bags are lost
the wait at baggage is usually 10 minutes or so
My sophomore year in college we were playing at Northern Iowa. The entire team's bags were lost. They didn't show up until just before we left the hotel for the game. Somehow despite all that chaos we only lost by 1. The UNI Dome was an awful place to play. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 12, 2025, 07:34:38 AM
The whole liquid hot magma thing is a bit of a constraint...
you wouldn't be going directly through the core in order to connect SoCal with Asia. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on March 12, 2025, 07:36:20 AM

you wouldn't be going directly through the core in order to connect SoCal with Asia.
The Asians might prefer that route. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Gigem on March 12, 2025, 07:43:23 AM
I honestly can’t imagine how you could get by with just a carry on. The only time I’ve done that is when we flew from Houston to Dallas and drove back the same day ( we picked up a new truck ). 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Gigem on March 12, 2025, 07:47:20 AM
I never thought waiting for bags was much of a big deal. Maybe 20-30 minutes for them to hit the conveyor. 

I’ve had to pay for bags with different carriers through the years. Seems like most charge around $35-50, not really a huge deal. I don’t travel often, maybe fly somewhere once a year, paying an extra $100-200 for bags on top of a couple grand for the other travel expenses seems trivial. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 12, 2025, 08:03:02 AM
In hotel.  Caught the Prop Crew off guard it is very foggy.  Longest flight of my life. 15:20 hours.
sounds horrible
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 12, 2025, 08:04:31 AM
My sophomore year in college we were playing at Northern Iowa. The entire team's bags were lost. They didn't show up until just before we left the hotel for the game. Somehow despite all that chaos we only lost by 1. The UNI Dome was an awful place to play.

it was loud?
I've only been in there for high school state football playoffs
at least it had heat
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 12, 2025, 08:11:39 AM
I honestly can’t imagine how you could get by with just a carry on. The only time I’ve done that is when we flew from Houston to Dallas and drove back the same day ( we picked up a new truck ).
I don't fly enough to be well versed on all the rules for carry-on.  Liquids and stuff, clear bags...I could read up.......
I just throw all that in the checked bag along with my pocket knife and don't worry.  Don't worry about lugging a carry on through the airport, rest room, finding room in the overhead bin, especially if there's a shortage of space and you're then forced to check your carry on.
much less convenient than waiting ten minutes after the flight - I usually hit the restroom and within 5 minutes I have my bag
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 12, 2025, 10:16:02 AM
I honestly can’t imagine how you could get by with just a carry on. The only time I’ve done that is when we flew from Houston to Dallas and drove back the same day ( we picked up a new truck ).
I don’t travel often, maybe fly somewhere once a year

That's the thing... When I was traveling frequently for work during my busiest phase, it was monthly at a minimum. Baggage claim time (and the risk of lost luggage) adds up when you're traveling a ton. 

My "carry on" is just a small roller suitcase, which easily can fit up to a week's worth of clothes and my toiletry bag. That and my one "personal item", my laptop bag which can fit under the seat, and I have everything I need. 

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on March 12, 2025, 11:32:44 AM
not many bags are lost
the wait at baggage is usually 10 minutes or so
Sorry but every time I have flown with someone who checked bags it has been longer than 10 minutes.

My distrust of luggage goes back to my dad.  He flew out to visit and his luggage never arrived.  Airline said they would find it and let him know.  Ultimately they told him it must have been stolen.  Nothing like arriving somewhere and having nothing then having to get everything new
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on March 12, 2025, 11:35:29 AM
It was a basketball game. There was no atmosphere at all. Just completely dead. The court was against one side of the permanent stands and they had portable bleachers around the other three sides. At halftime we had to walk all the way out of the dome to the locker rooms which meant walking through the lines to the concession stands. Just a terrible place for a basketball game. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 12, 2025, 11:51:08 AM
Sorry but every time I have flown with someone who checked bags it has been longer than 10 minutes.

My distrust of luggage goes back to my dad.  He flew out to visit and his luggage never arrived.  Airline said they would find it and let him know.  Ultimately they told him it must have been stolen.  Nothing like arriving somewhere and having nothing then having to get everything new
Well sure.

(https://i.imgur.com/pKTfUEp.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 12, 2025, 02:23:02 PM
Seoul is very clean.  No grafiti or trash. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 12, 2025, 06:47:52 PM
corporal punishment
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 12, 2025, 06:52:07 PM
corporal punishment
The whole "caning" thing back in the 1990s was Singapore, not South Korea. 

BTW I've heard Singapore is absolutely amazing and worth a visit. And yes, QUITE clean. Haven't had an opportunity yet though. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 12, 2025, 09:42:13 PM
Singapore, South Korea they all sound the same
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 03:41:54 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/4Ux5VnM.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 03:42:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/rttKPrO.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 03:43:30 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/LvbeZKp.jpeg)

Bi bum bop dol sot
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 03:44:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/fkn3nZc.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 03:45:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/SERShV8.jpeg)

Hug market, octopus.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 03:46:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/64U1z9T.jpeg)

Contrasts.  Market and modern apartments. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 13, 2025, 07:38:19 AM
You should venture into North Korea, I hear it's nice this time of year. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: GopherRock on March 13, 2025, 12:17:33 PM
Seoul is a fascinating place. There seems to be an understanding that if everyone is going to survive, everyone has to play by the rules. When your city is so dense that it makes midtown Manhattan look like Green Acres, that's how it has to be.

For whatever reason, Koreans have developed a fondness for baked goods. Often, the best and cheapest are in the subway stations.

Speaking of the subway, it's quite the system (and badly needed), but it needed a military dictatorship to build most of it.

My wife and I Were there in August, so it was blast-furnace hot when we were there. Hope the weather is nicer now.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 02:54:54 PM
The weather is chilly but not bad.  Fog in the morning.  The market was amazing. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 07:27:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3HzasF6.jpeg)

Hilly around Seoul.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 07:28:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9qpVzqQ.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 07:29:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/MayFg2u.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 07:31:02 PM
For a city in a country technically at war with a neighbor 40 miles north, it’s amazing to me.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MarqHusker on March 13, 2025, 07:49:30 PM
My older brother loves taunting us how he's been to North Korea.  He had some Army time in Korea and I guess was in that facility which sits in both South and North.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on March 13, 2025, 08:18:04 PM
wouldn't work with me

I don't even have much desire to visit South Korea
I'm nobody's Dennis Rodman
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2025, 08:22:06 PM
We saw into NK last year when we visited the DMZ.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 14, 2025, 07:38:14 AM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qK4hTWDVKO8/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on March 14, 2025, 01:30:43 PM
Yup, there's a negotiating room at Panmunjom that bridges the border between the countries. Inside that room, one can stand in North or South Korea. Been there a couple of times myself. The guards from the North stare in the windows at you while you are there. It would be silly if it weren't serious. 
I was told they rarely actually use that room for negotiations (it's just big enough for one large (16-20 person?) conference table, if I remember correctly--it has been a hot second since I was last there).
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on March 16, 2025, 03:40:45 PM
Now in Keelung, Taiwan.  Another potential war zone.  Sitting next to three navy ships.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 16, 2025, 04:36:05 PM
Which one of you is in Ireland right now? 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 16, 2025, 08:07:54 PM
Now in Keelung, Taiwan.  Another potential war zone.  Sitting next to three navy ships. 
Hope you enjoy Taiwan! How long? Just one day? 

Their national dish is a beef noodle soup. If you can find it, order it. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 18, 2025, 02:41:02 AM
Now in Kaohsiung.  Much more modern city.  
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Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 18, 2025, 11:17:26 AM
Buc-ee's billboard between Tucson and Phoenix


(https://i.imgur.com/ArpS35u.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 18, 2025, 04:57:09 PM
Heading to Hong Kong.   Arrive 8:30 PM. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 19, 2025, 09:28:18 PM
In Hong Kong.  

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Post by: Cincydawg on March 20, 2025, 03:05:58 AM
Hong Kong is impressive.  
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 20, 2025, 07:53:42 AM
What rhymes with Hong Kong? 

Gong song, long dong, wrong bong, strong thong... 
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Post by: FearlessF on March 20, 2025, 08:45:03 AM
Hong Kong is impressive. 
great food, what about great wine
or still not drinkin?
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Post by: Gigem on March 20, 2025, 09:25:18 AM
Buc-ee's billboard between Tucson and Phoenix


(https://i.imgur.com/ArpS35u.jpeg)
Founded in my hometown.  
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Post by: FearlessF on March 20, 2025, 09:57:48 AM
so, you have a billionaire in your hometown?
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Post by: utee94 on March 20, 2025, 10:01:35 AM
Doesn't everyone?
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Post by: Gigem on March 20, 2025, 10:14:48 AM
so, you have a billionaire in your hometown?
Yes. I don’t know him, but I know his brother. 
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Post by: FearlessF on March 20, 2025, 10:15:22 AM
nope - town of 600 in NW Iowa
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Post by: utee94 on March 20, 2025, 10:18:41 AM
nope - town of 600 in NW Iowa
We got billionaires around every corner down here in the ATX.  
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Post by: FearlessF on March 20, 2025, 10:33:29 AM
dirt farmin ain't that profitable - apparently
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Post by: FearlessF on March 20, 2025, 10:34:27 AM
the Gateway 2000 cow spot guy was maybe our greatest hope but he fizzled out
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Post by: Riffraft on March 20, 2025, 11:08:34 AM
Heading to Hawaii tomorrow morning. 7 days 5 islands.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on March 20, 2025, 11:09:35 AM
Heading to Hawaii tomorrow morning. 7 days 5 islands.
Wow. Lots of packing and unpacking.
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Post by: Gigem on March 20, 2025, 02:01:44 PM
Turns out being a billionaire might not be the best thing for your kids.  Imagine having all the money in the world and facing something like this:

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/mitchell-wasek-felony-possession-of-child-pornography-charge
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Post by: FearlessF on March 20, 2025, 03:09:10 PM
On my way to Austin for the Brother's daughter's wedding this weekend
by way of Lincoln tonight
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Post by: utee94 on March 20, 2025, 11:16:50 PM
Ah the closet Longhorn family, getting married in Austin.  I approve!
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Post by: Riffraft on March 21, 2025, 06:04:19 PM
Wow. Lots of packing and unpacking.
On a cruise
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Post by: Riffraft on March 21, 2025, 08:51:27 PM
USS arizona memorial 
(https://i.imgur.com/uaIOmxG.jpeg)
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Post by: FearlessF on March 22, 2025, 02:48:59 PM
Ah the closet Longhorn family, getting married in Austin.  I approve!
yes, last night on 6th st.
Wedding party staying at the Thompson
I'm too old for 6th street
Wedding and reception in round rock - no worries, there's a bus
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Post by: utee94 on March 22, 2025, 03:49:34 PM
Dirty 6th is pretty nasty.  Tons of entertainment districts in Austin now, that are more suited to respectable folks like you and me.
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Post by: SuperMario on March 22, 2025, 09:44:55 PM
USS arizona memorial
(https://i.imgur.com/uaIOmxG.jpeg)
Were you able to go on it? Curious the feedback if so. Was one of the most somber places I have ever been and that includes some of the killing fields of the Khmer Rouge and tough places in Vietnam.
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Post by: FearlessF on March 23, 2025, 09:40:37 AM
Dirty 6th is pretty nasty.  Tons of entertainment districts in Austin now, that are more suited to respectable folks like you and me.
5 block walk to the hotel at 1:30am - fun stuff
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Post by: Riffraft on March 23, 2025, 01:54:44 PM
Were you able to go on it? Curious the feedback if so. Was one of the most somber places I have ever been and that includes some of the killing fields of the Khmer Rouge and tough places in Vietnam.
Yeah got on.  They allow you to take pictures in the memorial just didn't feel right for me to so
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Post by: 847badgerfan on March 23, 2025, 02:08:33 PM
Did you take in the presentation?
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Post by: utee94 on March 24, 2025, 08:42:11 AM
Agree, the Arizona Memorial is one of the most sobering places I've ever visited.  I went to Hawaii with my high school marching band, and even that bunch of 15-18 year olds was completely quiet the entire time we were there.
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Post by: Riffraft on March 24, 2025, 01:52:18 PM

Zowie it's Maui 

(https://i.imgur.com/xKSE8p2.png)
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Post by: Riffraft on March 24, 2025, 01:53:27 PM
Did you take in the presentation?
Yes and walk all the museums.  
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Post by: SFBadger96 on March 24, 2025, 02:28:27 PM
Zowie it's Maui

(https://i.imgur.com/xKSE8p2.png)
From here that looks like Kahalui. Is Lahaina still shut down?
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Post by: Riffraft on March 24, 2025, 03:55:50 PM
From here that looks like Kahalui. Is Lahaina still shut down?
It is kahalui don't know about lahaina.
Ttraveled across the island for this
(https://i.imgur.com/QBhThBW.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 24, 2025, 09:27:32 PM
In Thailand headed to Bangkok.  Interesting stuff.  
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 24, 2025, 09:31:39 PM
In Thailand headed to Bangkok.  Interesting stuff. 
Dirty af.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 24, 2025, 09:31:53 PM
Food's good tho.
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 25, 2025, 01:39:49 AM
Really hot and humid and hazy.  Cleaner than Vietnam by a lot.  Visited Grand Palace. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 25, 2025, 03:03:30 AM
Had a decent lunch at some hotel.  It was unlike Thai food in the US.  
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Post by: Riffraft on March 25, 2025, 07:06:52 PM
Volcano national park
(https://i.imgur.com/Xrv5WzJ.png)
[img width=258.323 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/59fEcw5.png[/img]
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Post by: Riffraft on March 25, 2025, 11:44:49 PM
Hilo harbor 

(https://i.imgur.com/K1nNXMp.png)
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 25, 2025, 11:45:51 PM
How do you rank the East Asian countries? 
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Post by: Riffraft on March 26, 2025, 05:36:46 PM
Four Seasons Resort Hualalai
[img width=258.328 height=375]https://i.imgur.com/GptXNHG.png[/img](https://i.imgur.com/pY8Cb26.png)
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Post by: Riffraft on March 27, 2025, 04:54:24 PM
Kauai
(https://i.imgur.com/Lvx5hlp.png)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 27, 2025, 08:56:21 PM
Trying to get some Pliny the Younger...
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Post by: MarqHusker on March 27, 2025, 09:00:29 PM
Heh,  last had that when I was in your neck of the woods in Socal.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on March 28, 2025, 09:00:15 AM
Kauai
(https://i.imgur.com/Lvx5hlp.png)
I love that spot and that island in general. It's my favorite.

Go up to Hanalei if you can.
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 28, 2025, 09:42:40 PM
Arrived Singapore.  Was at sea for earthquake 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 29, 2025, 11:49:47 AM
Sonoma (specifically west of Healdsburg). Korbel followed by Matrix Winery...

(https://i.imgur.com/wMkH0Oy.jpeg)

Matrix

(https://i.imgur.com/96ees2K.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ae5drGt.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 29, 2025, 11:52:19 AM
Napa Valley.

First stop was Castello di Amorosa. I thought it was going to be overly kitschy and was questioning whether the wine would be worth it... But we walked away with four bottles, and it was only four because my wife had to talk me out of the expensive ones that were REALLY freakin' good but, well, quite pricey...

(https://i.imgur.com/oGgOMrn.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GQxxoIW.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 29, 2025, 11:54:52 AM
Followed that up with Rombauer, one of our consistent favorites. Didn't do a tasting, just got a couple of glasses of wine. Because we're outdoorsy (i.e. we drink on patios). I mean, I'm sure there are better places in the world to drink a wonderful Zinfandel, but this view is just spectacular. 

(https://i.imgur.com/tLZZdZl.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jqeEgkI.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 29, 2025, 12:02:14 PM
Finished the tasting day with Duckhorn and Mumm. 

Duckhorn had some very nice wine, but severely overpriced... It was a nice tasting, but the wines were as (or more) expensive as the ones my wife talked me out of buying at the castle, and while they were good, they weren't even as good as those. Not worth it to bring anything home. 

(https://i.imgur.com/C41flCY.jpeg)

Mumm... Well, my wife likes bubbles. They had a really nice sparkling wine made from cabernet sauvignon grapes, so we've got a little of that to bring home. 

(https://i.imgur.com/4ce5ONI.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vCPoW3P.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 29, 2025, 12:06:22 PM
We're staying in downtown Napa, so the Bounty Hunter BBQ & Wine Bar was our choice for dinner. The steakhouse (for our anniversary) will be tonight. 

No pictures of the food, which was decent enough. I had a brisket sandwich which had nice flavor, but it wasn't tender enough, and it CERTAINLY wasn't a Texas brisket. I guess it's just another typical experience of Cali BBQ being underwhelming as a norm, and "good" is the exception. 

That said, one of the beers on tap was something I had to document. ODB!

(https://i.imgur.com/l0gh50l.jpeg)
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Post by: SFBadger96 on March 29, 2025, 12:28:06 PM
We really enjoy Hendry in Napa, if your dance card isn’t already too full. Decent price point for really nice wine.
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Post by: SFBadger96 on March 29, 2025, 12:30:46 PM
Golf staycation, day one. This is from the signature 17th, but there are ton of great views on this muni (which is maintained like a muni)…
(https://i.imgur.com/F1QkzX8.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 29, 2025, 12:46:49 PM
We really enjoy Hendry in Napa, if your dance card isn’t already too full. Decent price point for really nice wine.
Dang. Looking at the location it'd be a great stop at the end of our day as we're starting further north and then coming back towards downtown. Unfortunately our last reservation is 3:45-4:45 so won't have time. Appreciate a rec tho.
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Post by: Riffraft on March 29, 2025, 02:59:08 PM
I love that spot and that island in general. It's my favorite.

Go up to Hanalei if you can.
Just stayed on the beach.  Heading home today. In 2 weeks I go on a 38 day excursion across the Atlantic to Lisbon then across the northern Mediterranean a couple of days in Egypt and ending in Istanbul 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on March 29, 2025, 03:30:34 PM
You cruising out of Miami?
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 29, 2025, 09:39:13 PM
Kuala Lumpur today.  Humid and hazy. Duh. 
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Post by: Riffraft on March 30, 2025, 01:35:33 PM
You cruising out of Miami?
Out of San Juan
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 30, 2025, 09:19:33 PM
(https://images.interestingengineering.com/2024/01/22/image/jpeg/Oyljx9S8e27mMQu7telqPbaJTnI4sAaB7q3tnSjE.jpg)
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Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2025, 09:30:24 PM
must be Australia, driving on the wrong side of the bridge 
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Post by: SFBadger96 on April 02, 2025, 12:30:05 PM
Last day of golf staycation:
(https://i.imgur.com/hsYTBM8.jpeg)
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Post by: SFBadger96 on April 02, 2025, 12:51:52 PM
Highly recommend Half Moon Bay Ocean Course for anyone who likes golf and finds themselves in the Bay Area. Not crazy expensive (it is a little pricey) and amazing views from basically every hole, finishing strong with three holes right on the cliffs.
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Post by: FearlessF on April 02, 2025, 12:56:15 PM
I drove right by there!
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Post by: SFBadger96 on April 02, 2025, 01:06:52 PM
You sure did. Next time bring your clubs!
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 02, 2025, 01:09:49 PM
The first time I got engaged, it was there. 

In retrospect, I'm disappointed I wasted that location on her. It's ruined it forever for me. 
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Post by: FearlessF on April 02, 2025, 01:20:31 PM
bummer, Dude
live & learn

G-entlemen
O-nly
L-adies
F-orbidden
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Post by: utee94 on April 02, 2025, 01:33:44 PM
The only thing more boring than talking about golf... is playing golf.  
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Post by: FearlessF on April 02, 2025, 02:01:39 PM
or watching the Longhorn network
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Post by: utee94 on April 02, 2025, 02:11:06 PM
Nothing boring about that.  Every volleyball and beisbol game live, never competing against other schools on a silly conference network.  It was pure bliss!

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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on April 02, 2025, 05:38:07 PM
Posting threads about your past playlists is a little bit more boring than golf. 
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on April 02, 2025, 05:43:33 PM
The only thing more boring than talking about golf... is playing watching golf. 
FIFY.  

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Post by: MikeDeTiger on April 02, 2025, 05:43:40 PM
I used to play when I was in college.  I was terrible, but it wasn't boring.  Nevertheless, that doesn't stop me from thinking that the majority of guys who take up golf in their later years just want to get away from their wives.  
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Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 02, 2025, 05:44:00 PM
The only thing more boring than talking about golf... is playing golf.

(https://i.imgur.com/lRyyVkX.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: utee94 on April 02, 2025, 05:47:35 PM
Posting threads about your past playlists is a little bit more boring than golf.
Another poster asked me to list them.  Nobody's forcing you to read that thread.
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Post by: DunkingDan on April 02, 2025, 08:08:34 PM
Arrived Singapore.  Was at sea for earthquake
Hope all is well.

When you travel, I always look forward to your pictures.
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Post by: DunkingDan on April 02, 2025, 08:11:49 PM
Had a decent lunch at some hotel.  It was unlike Thai food in the US. 
There use to be a hole in the wall Thai Restaurant in Oak Ridge, friend of mine who served in Thailand said it was authentic. I know the food was good.

Here in NEPA they don;t like spicy foods so any thing Thai, Cajun, some Chinese, etc will disappoint you.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on April 02, 2025, 09:11:29 PM
Another poster asked me to list them.  Nobody's forcing you to read that thread.
Yeah, I know. I was just horsing around a little bit. 

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRUiPgh3zISe-kZ3v7AWbY_nbWVSSKlA4gJgg&s)


(https://txhumor.com/cdn/shop/files/unisex-staple-t-shirt-heather-midnight-navy-front-64df8c54ec122.jpg?v=1692372094)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 03, 2025, 11:36:41 AM
bummer, Dude
live & learn

G-entlemen
O-nly
L-adies
F-orbidden
Sorry playing golf with my wife is one of my favorite things
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 03, 2025, 11:40:54 AM
it's a little bit tongue in cheek although whenever women are around there's more chance of getting myself in trouble
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Post by: utee94 on April 03, 2025, 11:52:11 AM
it's a little bit tongue in cheek although whenever women are around there's more chance of getting myself in trouble
Well sure but that's true for you in every situation, not just whilst playing golf. :)
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Post by: FearlessF on April 03, 2025, 12:04:12 PM
Ed Zachery!!!
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on April 04, 2025, 08:03:48 AM
What's the craziest golf course that any of you have encountered in your travels? 
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Post by: FearlessF on April 04, 2025, 09:32:31 AM
craziest???
Tour 18 in Flower Mound, TX - a simulation of famous holes from famous courses
https://tour18-dallas.com/ (https://tour18-dallas.com/)

crazy difficult - The Ocean Course at Kiawah Island Golf Resort
crazy exclusive - Sutton Bay Golf at Agar, SD
crazy Hollywood - Rolling Hills Golf Club (now the Grande Oaks Golf Club) in Davie, Florida. (Scene of Caddy Shack)
crazy famous - Torrey Pines
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Post by: utee94 on April 04, 2025, 09:40:13 AM
Crazy difficult - Gravity Park minigolf, South Padre Island
Craziest cocktails- The Dirdie Birdie indoor minigolf and bar, in The Domain
Craziest characters - Peter Pan Minigolf in South Austin
Craziest chick I ever took on a date to minigolf-- Putt Putt minigolf, Burnet Road, Austin, TX
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Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 04, 2025, 10:06:18 AM
My Dad never trusted golf once he worked his way up to foreman at a chemical processing plant when we lived near Houston. He always had one or two employees limited or out of work due to documented "back conditions." They would wince up the steps, take longer smoke breaks, and avoid the heavy machinery because of their bad backs. Then come Saturday my Dad would notice for that one day a week they were perfectly fine. "Must be something about hole 9 radiating healing powers." Grinning, open cans of beer in the cupholders of their golf carts, driving golf balls hundreds of yards behind the full strength of their "bad backs."
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Post by: FearlessF on April 04, 2025, 10:40:12 AM
I have a bad back.  When it's out of place and I need to see the bone cruncher, I can't hardly put a tee in the ground, pick up my golf ball or get in and out of the cart, but I can swing OK.
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Post by: Riffraft on April 04, 2025, 10:55:39 AM
My Dad never trusted golf once he worked his way up to foreman at a chemical processing plant when we lived near Houston. He always had one or two employees limited or out of work due to documented "back conditions." They would wince up the steps, take longer smoke breaks, and avoid the heavy machinery because of their bad backs. Then come Saturday my Dad would notice for that one day a week they were perfectly fine. "Must be something about hole 9 radiating healing powers." Grinning, open cans of beer in the cupholders of their golf carts, driving golf balls hundreds of yards behind the full strength of their "bad backs."
Single plane swing not as hard on the back.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on April 04, 2025, 03:06:23 PM
craziest???
Tour 18 in Flower Mound, TX - a simulation of famous holes from famous courses
https://tour18-dallas.com/ (https://tour18-dallas.com/)

crazy difficult - The Ocean Course at Kiawah Island Golf Resort
crazy exclusive - Sutton Bay Golf at Agar, SD
crazy Hollywood - Rolling Hills Golf Club (now the Grande Oaks Golf Club) in Davie, Florida. (Scene of Caddy Shack)
crazy famous - Torrey Pines

I was thinking "most unusual" but I like how you divided the craziness into sub-categories. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 05, 2025, 02:12:01 PM
Speaking of Golf, the fairways are gorgeous this morning in Palm Springs:

(https://i.imgur.com/FzhqoXw.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 06, 2025, 06:11:57 PM
Driving through the greater Los Angeles area over the weekend, and stopped in San Bernardino to step foot inside First Original McDonald's Museum. It's not the first McDonald's location, but rather a museum to explore earliest McDonalds locations which were started in the Inland Empire, although a Des Plaines Illinois location also claims to be the first McDonalds.

The museum can be categorized according to two different kinds of exhibits featuring either displays of McDonald's from around the world - Finland, Brazil, Canada, Vietnam - or displays of Happy Meals dating well back through my childhood - Power Rangers, Rescue Rangers, Super Mario, Garfield. 

(https://i.imgur.com/4GVoDgB.jpeg)


(https://i.imgur.com/3VEkITz.jpeg)

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 07, 2025, 10:10:29 AM
Driving through the greater Los Angeles area over the weekend, and stopped in San Bernardino to step foot inside First Original McDonald's Museum. It's not the first McDonald's location, but rather a museum to explore earliest McDonalds locations which were started in the Inland Empire, although a Des Plaines Illinois location also claims to be the first McDonalds.

The museum can be categorized according to two different kinds of exhibits featuring either displays of McDonald's from around the world - Finland, Brazil, Canada, Vietnam - or displays of Happy Meals dating well back through my childhood - Power Rangers, Rescue Rangers, Super Mario, Garfield.

(https://i.imgur.com/4GVoDgB.jpeg)


(https://i.imgur.com/3VEkITz.jpeg)


Been there. Grew up in DP IL.
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Post by: Gigem on April 09, 2025, 10:53:34 AM
My Dad never trusted golf once he worked his way up to foreman at a chemical processing plant when we lived near Houston. He always had one or two employees limited or out of work due to documented "back conditions." They would wince up the steps, take longer smoke breaks, and avoid the heavy machinery because of their bad backs. Then come Saturday my Dad would notice for that one day a week they were perfectly fine. "Must be something about hole 9 radiating healing powers." Grinning, open cans of beer in the cupholders of their golf carts, driving golf balls hundreds of yards behind the full strength of their "bad backs."
Which part of Houston and which plant?  Just curious.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 10, 2025, 04:28:52 AM
In Dubai. It’s hot.  Two more days.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 10, 2025, 08:55:53 AM
ever get the feeling that you're too old for that crap?
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on April 10, 2025, 09:58:50 PM
I dragged my brother along for this trip all week. 

(https://i.imgur.com/O5CDxWw.png)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 10, 2025, 10:17:57 PM
how many?  Days? Hours? miles?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on April 11, 2025, 12:45:16 AM
how many?  Days? Hours? miles?
About 800 miles or so. We went from St George out to Lake Powell/Page, AZ/Glen Canyon on Sunday, seeing the Pink Coral Sand Dunes, Lee's Ferry, Navajo Bridge, and Horseshoe Bend along the way. 

Day 2, we trekked across the Navajo Rez, through Kayenta and Monument Valley Tribal Park. We stayed the night in a town just of the Rez called Mexican Hat, named  after a rock formation that looks like a giant sombrero. I saw a wild horse taking a drink down by the river. The town only had 21 people, and we met about half of them while we were staying there. 

The next day we saw the goosenecks, Bears Ears (Obama's National Monument), Valley of the Gods, Natural Bridges, the north end of Glenn Canyon, then we spent the night in Torrey after visiting Capital Reef NP. 

The final day was the legendary Utah Rt 12, which is widely regarded as one of the most scenic drives in the world, and rightfully so. It starts by traversing Boulder Mtn in the Dixie NF. Then it's the main road across the Grand Staircase. After that it traverses Bryce Canyon. Then it drops down Red Rock Canyon. 

After that we crossed Cedar Mtn, where it dropped  all the way down to 28 degrees. Then back at the house, where it was 87 degrees. 

Long story short: we did a giant lap around Lake Powell. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2025, 01:20:57 AM
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Birg Khalifa.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2025, 01:21:26 AM
Abu Dhabi Do.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2025, 04:48:14 AM
Just an entrance to a hotel.  

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Post by: Cincydawg on April 11, 2025, 04:49:38 AM
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Post by: MrNubbz on April 11, 2025, 07:33:26 AM
CD that about covers it except for the North & South Poles 
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Post by: FearlessF on April 11, 2025, 08:43:42 AM
About 800 miles or so. We went from St George out to Lake Powell/Page, AZ/Glen Canyon on Sunday, seeing the Pink Coral Sand Dunes, Lee's Ferry, Navajo Bridge, and Horseshoe Bend along the way.

Long story short: we did a giant lap around Lake Powell.
hopefully, someday I'll ask you about this when planning my trip
sounds like a good drive - any golf courses near the route?
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Post by: iahawk15 on April 11, 2025, 08:44:57 AM
About 800 miles or so. We went from St George out to Lake Powell/Page, AZ/Glen Canyon on Sunday, seeing the Pink Coral Sand Dunes, Lee's Ferry, Navajo Bridge, and Horseshoe Bend along the way.

Day 2, we trekked across the Navajo Rez, through Kayenta and Monument Valley Tribal Park. We stayed the night in a town just of the Rez called Mexican Hat, named  after a rock formation that looks like a giant sombrero. I saw a wild horse taking a drink down by the river. The town only had 21 people, and we met about half of them while we were staying there.

The next day we saw the goosenecks, Bears Ears (Obama's National Monument), Valley of the Gods, Natural Bridges, the north end of Glenn Canyon, then we spent the night in Torrey after visiting Capital Reef NP.

The final day was the legendary Utah Rt 12, which is widely regarded as one of the most scenic drives in the world, and rightfully so. It starts by traversing Boulder Mtn in the Dixie NF. Then it's the main road across the Grand Staircase. After that it traverses Bryce Canyon. Then it drops down Red Rock Canyon.

After that we crossed Cedar Mtn, where it dropped  all the way down to 28 degrees. Then back at the house, where it was 87 degrees.

Long story short: we did a giant lap around Lake Powell.
That's a pretty great lap and something I'd like to do on our next trip out there.

First trip, the wife and I only had 3 full days so we spent 1 in Bryce, 2 in Zion, and hit Valley of Fire on the way back to Vegas.
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 12, 2025, 01:38:22 AM
Doha looks much like Dubai.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 12, 2025, 06:58:44 AM
A Qatari paid for our lunch.  I then left a $20 tip.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2025, 09:16:20 AM
In a plane high over Canada with internet.  Pretty neat.  But this is wearing, been flying for 20 hours and four to go, well only 3.  Fifteen hours in a plane.  The first flight was on Fly Dubai, which I would rename Don’t Fly Dubai.  Leg room was awful.  
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Post by: FearlessF on April 13, 2025, 09:35:03 AM
too wearing for me
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2025, 10:22:30 AM
Yeah, I question my choices.  Two hours to go then immigration.  Flight has been ok.  So far.  Even sitting in main cabin Delta.  All three flights were full.  


Had a long bus ride in Dubai terminal.  Makes me appreciate ATL.  Even AMS was spread out but no buses.   
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2025, 10:24:07 AM
Both cruises were full. I’ll have some comments later on ports of call.  29 days on board.  
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Post by: Riffraft on April 13, 2025, 11:16:42 AM
Sitting in a hotel lobby in San Juan waiting for my ride to my ship to take me across the Atlantic 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 13, 2025, 11:27:39 AM
What cruise lines did you guys use?
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2025, 12:04:58 PM
 Norwegian.  
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Post by: Riffraft on April 13, 2025, 04:08:10 PM
What cruise lines did you guys use?
Ncl.  36 days 3 different cruises going from San Juan and ending in Istanbul. Hitting the northern Mediterranean and eygpt in between. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 13, 2025, 06:26:35 PM
You outdid our 29.  
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 14, 2025, 02:11:48 AM
Some very broad impressions:

The major developed cities in Asia are "all the same", more or less, to me, Seoul, Taiwan cities, HK, Bangkok, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Doha.  The last three of course are very hot and "deserty".  But all have massive skylines on waterways, vast stretches of 30+ story apartment buildings, very very few "houses", large airports and seaports,  Not much in the way or large forested parks (that we saw).  

Several places we visited are threatened by potential military actions, Seoul, Taiwan, Straits of Hormuz, plausibly Mumbai.  Some places we visited or planned to in the past have been made now off limits by war.  It's hard for me to conceive of a real war where a place like Seoul comes under artillery attack, it would be ... brutal, or the two cities in Taiwan being assaulted.

The greatest contrast with cities in India we visited vs the above, is trash, and poverty.  In India, trash is everywhere, Mumbai downtown was better.  The plastic in the oceans comes from these countries like India.

I saw no gum on sidewalks in Singapore.  Ha.

Doha was surprisingly green, a lot of larger tracts of sod.  Of the three, it was my favorite to visit.

There weren't any places we both said "We'd love to come back.".  A few were in the "like to return" group, but the pain to get there is significant.

We were of course limited by the tours I selected, but had long bus rides in most, and walked about in most.  India is brutally humid and hot, even the locals were complaining as it was early April.  A thing we missed was having more local food options in places, my wife was pretty leary about trying things.  We had a great lunch in Seoul at a market, and an "OK" lunch in Goa, India, and some terrific fried chicken in Doha of all places.  As we entered that place, I noted three locals lounging having coffee, and the put my hand over my heart and said "Salaam alekhim".  Later they left, and we were told the younger of the three paid for our meal, he said "Welcome to our country".  I left a $20 tip for the workers.

These three Arab cities of course fabulously wealthy, clean, and safe.  Up to 90% of the population are "foreign workers".  It doesn't seem sustainable to me, but the workers face greater hardships in their home countries, places like Pakistan.

We had some interesting conversations with the crew on board the ship.  They mostly seem pretty motivated and happy, most told us they were reupping their contracts, and while they aren't paid much and work hard, it's worse where they are from (most off the PI).  We took a tour of the "innards" of the ship that was pretty interesting.  This is the oldest ship in their fleet (NCL) and smallest and about to be sold as NCL brings on four "megaships".  By smallest, I mean 1930 passengers and about a thousand crew.  It was updated in 2024 and was in good shape visually.  We watched a video about the new ships and they will be ... different.

There are three levels of dining on board, the "Garden Cafe", which is buffet style, and decent, two large sit down and order restaurants, and four "premium" restaurants, one of which is "French".  The service at the latter is quite good, we got comped on a lot of stuff.  We had five "free" premium meals for each cruise (14 day followed by a 15 day).    We did not have the Unlimited Beverage Package which saves a LOT of money.  Most folks don't know you can drop that, it's about $75 per person per day.

The passengers were about half Asian, about a quarter European/Aussie/NZ, and a quarter American/Canadian.  There were a lot of Canadians on board that we met, they nearly all joked about the 51st state thing.



Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 14, 2025, 02:19:21 AM
The flights of course were pretty tough on us, I had paid for an upgrade to "premium" on AA Dallas to Seoul which helped a lot.  The plane from Doha to Dubai was awful, I could barely sit down, but a one hour flight at least.  Then we took a VERY VERY long bus ride at the airport, nearly 20 minutes, to get to the KLM flight connection to Amsterdam.  KLM is a very good carrier, and had one of the prettiest FAs I've seen on board in a while.  We were in Economy Comfort.  The AMS airport was confusing, we had several cruise passengers who were following me as they were on the same connecting flight to Atlanta.  That entailed another poorly marked bus ride but we all made it.  My wife was panicked initially because she didn't have the correct time.  

We were "in the back" on the Delta flight home but surprisingly I had OK leg room.  All three flights were fully booked, as was both cruises.  So, one hour flight Doha to Dubai, long layover, 8+ hour flight to AMS, then 8+ flight to ATL.  I got through customs as fast as my wife who has Global Entry in ATL and our luggage all showed up, we doubt it all would.  We started with two pieces and ended with three, we bought a decent suitcase in India for $37, it works fine.  

My wife went to sleep last evening before dark and I followed by woke up at 1 AM, so here I am, being productive.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 14, 2025, 05:41:45 AM
Some other broad observations about "The World":

1.  US "culture" is pervasive, really.  We saw KFCs and McDs, and 7-11s etc. everywhere (except Vietnam).
2.  Another sign of this, nearly every sign of note was bilingual with English.  Everywhere.  Even in Arabia.  Street signs, commercial signs, everything.  
3.  Another sign, western style dress is pervasive.  The partial exception was Qatar where a fair number of locals wore "Arab style dress".  Women were in black, usually veiled, sometimes completely except eyes.  In India, Thailand, Taiwan, HK, 99% are in western attire.
4.  Toyota really dominates the car industry in Asia.  
5.  The immigration prodecures in India are ... difficult.  We often had to wait in long lines to have proof of visa scanned and then have backpacks scanned though the person reading the scanners often was not paying any attention.  I walked through any number of magnetometers that went off and nobody said anything or checked me in India.  We had four stops in India, same thing in each one.  They checked a paper that had QR codes on it, we didn't have passports there.
6.  The cruise ship, or country, will often take our passports from us, not something all that wonderful, but it works.
7.  Most people "out there" are pretty nice and considerate, a few are oblivious to their surroundings.  These will block obvious choke  points in airports or busses for no reason.  Some folks in a buffet line will just stand there looking for "hours" as if the items are going to change, not letting others have access.
8.  These huges cities are, well, huge.  I guess you get used to it, many have 30+ story apartment buildings for miles, all looking the same.
9. The employees in the travel industry have to put up with ... "us", often it's not fun, at all.
10.  Too many Americans are simply fat, to put it bluntly, and unable to get around very well.  On many tours clearly marked "not for wheelchaired folks", we had fat wheelchaired folks holding everything up.  Some could walk, a bit, they just wanted to ride.


Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Riffraft on April 14, 2025, 08:08:12 AM
First stop la romana dr
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Post by: Riffraft on April 14, 2025, 08:53:22 AM
Some other broad observations about "The World":

1.  US "culture" is pervasive, really.  We saw KFCs and McDs, and 7-11s etc. everywhere (except Vietnam).
2.  Another sign of this, nearly every sign of note was bilingual with English.  Everywhere.  Even in Arabia.  Street signs, commercial signs, everything. 
3.  Another sign, western style dress is pervasive.  The partial exception was Qatar where a fair number of locals wore "Arab style dress".  Women were in black, usually veiled, sometimes completely except eyes.  In India, Thailand, Taiwan, HK, 99% are in western attire.
4.  Toyota really dominates the car industry in Asia. 
5.  The immigration prodecures in India are ... difficult.  We often had to wait in long lines to have proof of visa scanned and then have backpacks scanned though the person reading the scanners often was not paying any attention.  I walked through any number of magnetometers that went off and nobody said anything or checked me in India.  We had four stops in India, same thing in each one.  They checked a paper that had QR codes on it, we didn't have passports there.
6.  The cruise ship, or country, will often take our passports from us, not something all that wonderful, but it works.
7.  Most people "out there" are pretty nice and considerate, a few are oblivious to their surroundings.  These will block obvious choke  points in airports or busses for no reason.  Some folks in a buffet line will just stand there looking for "hours" as if the items are going to change, not letting others have access.
8.  These huges cities are, well, huge.  I guess you get used to it, many have 30+ story apartment buildings for miles, all looking the same.
9. The employees in the travel industry have to put up with ... "us", often it's not fun, at all.
10.  Too many Americans are simply fat, to put it bluntly, and unable to get around very well.  On many tours clearly marked "not for wheelchaired folks", we had fat wheelchaired folks holding everything up.  Some could walk, a bit, they just wanted to ride.



I can relate to no 10. I first want to say so you can't read as well as not being able to walk and then give them a shove out of the way. It is just as bad with people with walkers.The problem is ubiquitous on the long cruises I have been on.  The reason we are doing all this traveling now is we don't want to be those people who have no business trying to travel in the future.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on April 14, 2025, 05:39:10 PM
A lot of people don't know how elevators work. This weekend I had a room on the first floor, while the lobby was on the second. Every time someone got on the down elevator just completely mystified as to why it wasn't going up. When it got to the first floor I'd say "now it's going up."
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 15, 2025, 04:49:45 AM
CDG airport outside Paris, I used to think this was the worst airport ever, then I traveled some more.

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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: LetsGoPeay on April 15, 2025, 08:14:26 AM
I've been to CDG. I thought Lisbon was worse just because it felt so outdated. 

Worst airport I've ever been to: Kansas City.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 15, 2025, 08:18:06 AM
Airports in Europe leave a lot to be desired.
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Post by: FearlessF on April 15, 2025, 08:22:00 AM
I've been to CDG. I thought Lisbon was worse just because it felt so outdated.

Worst airport I've ever been to: Kansas City.

Kansas City has a new airport
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 15, 2025, 08:34:36 AM
I've been through Toronto twice now, and it was confusing and lengthy both times.  It also was very dirty.

I've been through CDG probably 20+ times going and coming.  One issue is the plane often seems to taxi forever after landing, and then you deplane to walk and walk and get on a train and walk and walk and then go down an escalator to a mob waiting on luggage with way too few carousels.

We deplaned in ATL the other day fortunately on Terminal F (not E) and strolled out to a short immigration line, basically was waved through after quick inspection, got luggage forthwith and were gone.  If you dock at E Terminal international, it's a long walk to get to F terminal, you can't ride the train.

In DFW, the sky  train loops around and seems to take a long time to get where you need to be.
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 15, 2025, 09:02:58 AM
We didn't sleep before leaving on a 5:17 AM flight to Dallas followed by a 15+ hour flight to Seoul, but we did sleep on the long leg.  We stayed two nights at the Seoul Conrad hotel, which is an experience.  We had an 8 hour personal tour of Seoul featuring their market and lunch (which was excellent) and their military museum.  We like Seoul.  It's interesting, had been there last year too but our tour then was of the DMZ et al.
 
The next day we boarded the Norwegian Sky for our 29 day cruise and headed to Naha, Japan, in Okinawa, which we had visited last year.  The weather got quite rough and the captain said we had to divert, so we skipped it and got into Taiwan earlier than expected for two visits there, then to Hong Kong, Vietnam, Bangkok, and Singapore
 
We had two excursions to the countryside in Vietnam to see rice fields and have some of their beer, but no meals unfortunately.  We only took excursions arranged by the ship as it's important to be back on time of course, and the ship will wait for you if your excursion is late unless you're on your own.  The main Asian cities are impressive architecturally, a LOT of 30+ story apartment buildings everywhere.  We had an interesting boat ride in Bangkok and two lunches but they were both in western hotels.  The Thai food here is better I thought.  We left Bangkok one day before the earthquake heading to Singapore.
 
In Singapore, the first cruise ended after 14 days, but we and about 30 others stayed on board, we did take an excursion that day.  Singapore of course like HK has some British influence in places but both have grown enormously since then.  By this point, the weather had become hot and humid, while in Seoul we were wearing heavy coats and gloves.  
 
The next stop was Kuala Lumpur, which is massive, very urban, famous buildings from movies etc.  Our long tour mostly was about buildings and temples more than culture.  Then on to Phuket, Thailand, a noted "beach resort" of sorts.  We had a long tour, but I wasn't too impressed overall, I think Catherine was more so.  Then off to Sri Lanka which seemed of interest to me, but the morning we arrived, the tendering boats were bouncing on large swells and the captain said it was unsafe to board them, so we left.  The ocean looked normal, but we could see from our cabin balcony the boats bouncing around.
 
The next four stops were in India, in order, Cochin, Mangalore, Goa, and Mumbai.  The first two, to me, were not very notable, they have a major litter problem there for one thing, and I was tiring of visiting various temples by then.  The roads are very rough in spots and long bus rides were tiring.  We had a long tour in Goa with lunch, which Catherine liked, I actually think our Indian food here is better (!).  One of the folks in the tour wondered off at some point causing quite a delay while the guide hunted him down.  Goa was under Portuguese control until 1961 and that influence was still evident.  
 
Mumbai (Bombay) is somewhat akin to NYC, a ton of traffic, larger buildings, parks and museums, we visited one of the latter which was quite interesting to us, but had limited time.  And it was really hot and humid, even the locals were complaining, it was early April by then.
 
Now we had three days "at sea" crossing the Indian Ocean to Dubai (where we had been once before before on a cruise).  Dubai of course is very different from India, and similar to the next two stops in Abu Dhabi and Doha.  These three cities evidence a ton of oil money and few locals, up to 90% of the population are foreigners who are "servants" to the locals.  Once rarely sees a local out and about.  Doha is making obvious efforts to plant large grass fields and trees, which was nice.  Now of course it was very hot in the sun.  
 
In Doha, we took another tour off the ship for the last time and had lunch at a small local place, somewhat by accident ordering fried chicken and fruit juice, the chicken would rival anything local except Mukja (our Korean FC restaurant).  There were three locals lounging next to us, I had said "Salaam alekim" as we sat near them, and it happened that one of them paid for our meal as he left and said "Welcome".  I left a $20 tip for the servers, who seemed a bit confused by this rather tall foreigner.  Then off to the airport for three flights to get home.  The flight to Dubai was only an hour but painful as the plane had "limited" leg room, then in Dubai we had a bus ride to some other part of the airport apparently located in France.  Or so it seemed.  Many on the bus had been on the cruise and they started laughing saying they are busing us to Amsterdam.
 
The flight to AMS was 8+ hours but in economy comfort with leg room, and on KLM which is in my experience a solid carrier.  We had 2+ hours there and then an 8+ hour flight on Delta to ATL.  We managed some sleep and so were "OK" upon arrival when our friend picked us up, thankfully.  
 
For such a long trip, we had no "upsets", nothing lost, some long lines at times.  We made some friends on board and had some good meals especially at "Le Bistro", their French styled premium restaurant where we had some Champagne a couple times (Veuve).  Our cabin was quite tolerable for nearly a month, we kind of missed it and joked about staying on board longer, but it really is great to be home, and getting some sleep.  I woke up yesterday at midnight, but this morning I managed until 4 AM.  
 
I think Mark Twain may have said travel is the enemy of prejudice, or somesuch.  Most of "us" are more alike than different.  We were treated well by the Asians we met.  The tourists on board were about half Asian, about a quarter Canadian/European or from Australia/NZ, so an interesting mix just there.  We're fortunate to be able to travel and "see things".  The flying part is brutal at times, but we manage.  And we signed up for two more cruises, one out of Rome to the Greek isles and the other in 2026 from NYC to Barcelona.  I still have seen enough temples and churches and mosques for now.
 
Our aim was to experience parts of Asia, and we did, in one trip, knowing of course there is a ton more one could visit, but we have our eyes set more on Europe from here, and perhaps South America.  You might wonder how one packs for a 33 day trip, and Catherine did a great job with two suitcases, we had three coming back, had to buy one.  The ship does provide laundry services, we get one bag "free" and a second is $34.  This is a "small" ship relatively, and about to be sold, :"only" 1930 passengers.  The new ones are massive.  The small ship still had numerous restaurants and cafes, even a Starbucks, and a casino, and various theaters with shows (we attended exactly zero).  And bars galore, but we did not opt for the "beverage package" with unlimited drinks, it's very expensive.
 
If you read this far, thanks, hope it was interesting, ciao for now.  On to Rome.


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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 15, 2025, 09:18:38 AM
That was a good read. Thanks.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 15, 2025, 10:15:28 AM
I think Mark Twain may have said travel is the enemy of prejudice, or somesuch.  
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 15, 2025, 10:31:27 AM
A fun tidbit, our very first bus excursion on the second cruise I got seated by some woman not my wife (who was across on another set of seats).  The woman said her name was "Karen" and asked me if we cruised a lot, I said about once a year, whereupon she unleashed a tirade about how awful Norwegian was and she'd never cruise with them again, "It's Oceania for me!!!", she said, as if I cared.  The rest of the trip she was going on usually directed at others in her group about how bad things were.

I was obviously ignoring whatever she directed at me so I was partially spared but chuckling at the same time.  I never even knew what had incensed her so much.  I did hear from some others that the boarding process in Singapore was lengthy.  Anyway, Day One on a 15 day cruise and she was already in a terrible mood.  I didn't see her again fortunately.

Maybe Oceania is great, I don't know, to some extent you get what you pay for, the smaller cruise lines like Regent or Oceania no doubt are more premium, and cost more as well.  Norwegian is "mass market", generally speaking.  Our upcoming NYC to Barcelona cruise is 16 days for under $7,000, including air fare, for a "club balcony suite".  It's nice enough for us.  That does not include alcohol, but you can't do an all expenses resort somewhere for less than that I suspect, under $500 a day per couple?

We're more interested in the ports of call than the luxury of the ship, it's just a Chevrolet to us.

All that said, I did enjoy our stay at the Conrad Seoul.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 15, 2025, 10:46:59 AM
A fun tidbit, our very first bus excursion on the second cruise I got seated by some woman not my wife (who was across on another set of seats).  The woman said her name was "Karen" and asked me if we cruised a lot, I said about once a year, whereupon she unleashed a tirade about how awful Norwegian was and she'd never cruise with them again, "It's Oceania for me!!!", she said, as if I cared.  The rest of the trip she was going on usually directed at others in her group about how bad things were.

I was obviously ignoring whatever she directed at me so I was partially spared but chuckling at the same time.  I never even knew what had incensed her so much.  I did hear from some others that the boarding process in Singapore was lengthy.  Anyway, Day One on a 15 day cruise and she was already in a terrible mood.  I didn't see her again fortunately.

Maybe Oceania is great, I don't know, to some extent you get what you pay for, the smaller cruise lines like Regent or Oceania no doubt are more premium, and cost more as well.  Norwegian is "mass market", generally speaking.  Our upcoming NYC to Barcelona cruise is 16 days for under $7,000, including air fare, for a "club balcony suite".  It's nice enough for us.  That does not include alcohol, but you can't do an all expenses resort somewhere for less than that I suspect, under $500 a day per couple?

We're more interested in the ports of call than the luxury of the ship, it's just a Chevrolet to us.

All that said, I did enjoy our stay at the Conrad Seoul.


No shit?
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 15, 2025, 10:49:10 AM
she's probably in a more turrible mood when she stays home
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 15, 2025, 10:51:38 AM
I laughed that her name is Karen.

Hopefully she stays on Oceania and not Norwegian as she promised.

I personally am not interested in a cruise that is somehow fancier or more deluxe than NCL.  A clean Holiday Inn is fine with me.

Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: FearlessF on April 15, 2025, 10:52:34 AM
I'll be at a clean holiday inn tonight in McCook, NE
I better hit the road
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: MikeDeTiger on April 15, 2025, 11:05:30 AM
I laughed that her name is Karen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyEAbxmF9TU&list=PLjGsJt3BWPtdNE0AfUNBIYOuG23z9M34f&index=1
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 15, 2025, 11:07:55 AM
Oceana is very nice, but way too expensive.

Azamara is perfect for us, as I've mentioned before. We'll maybe do a crossing later this year.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: SFBadger96 on April 15, 2025, 02:54:20 PM
Spent some time recently in Cabo San Lucas--well, at a resort in Cabo San Lucas. All-inclusive (drinks, too) was just shy of $200/person. We opted out because even at resort pricing we wouldn't get there most of the time. That was the right decision for us. 

It was lovely, although the constant hocking of wares on the economy was awful, so we enjoyed our beautiful views and the comfort of the resort, rather than spending much time actually in Cabo (similar experiences in CSL and San Jose del Cabo).

Have never really done the resort-style vacation before. It was nice to just relax with nothing to do.
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Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 08:02:49 AM
I somehow omitted one stop on our trip that was among the most interesting, Ko Samui, Thailand.

Ko Samui - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko_Samui)

I signed us up for an excursion to an elephant preserve that turned out to be a highlight.  This place had rescued 16 Asian elephants and we were able to feed and interact with them at very close range.  One of them kind of strangeled my wife briefly with its trunk.  This is me with one of them, they were quite friendly, and of course were interested in the food.

(https://i.imgur.com/2tnfux3.jpeg)

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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 08:03:50 AM


(https://i.imgur.com/rds3NdA.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/N3Ejau3.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:09:23 AM
This was interesting, to me, on the right is our ship and to the left an Indian aircraft carrier, I think the Vikrant.

(https://i.imgur.com/scEBt04.jpeg)
They had "No Photo!!" signs around the dock area, but that seems absurd.  This was taken from a boat tour.
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:10:12 AM
This was a neat seen as we entered the harbor at Cochin, India.

(https://i.imgur.com/J8j1LKI.jpeg)
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Post by: utee94 on April 16, 2025, 09:10:52 AM
That's an awesome pic.  I really love navy warships.  I don't love war, but the ships are just so cool.

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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:10:58 AM
Here is the result of some electrician's effort in Cochin:

(https://i.imgur.com/FCOaJoU.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:12:28 AM
Military statue Kuala Lumpur, and no, that is not the Stars and Stripes.  

(https://i.imgur.com/LIDI2PK.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:13:05 AM
Singapore at night (duh):

(https://i.imgur.com/31ezSeQ.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:14:45 AM
Part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok:



(https://i.imgur.com/VXijKGi.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/QbYktRN.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:15:43 AM


(https://i.imgur.com/uvTLoKD.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/BL687A1.jpeg)
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Post by: utee94 on April 16, 2025, 09:18:06 AM
(he said Bangkok....)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:18:21 AM
In nothern Taiwan:

(https://i.imgur.com/RDXr5l0.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:18:51 AM
Our first day out was like this, the olde ship was bouncing around a bit:

(https://i.imgur.com/k6qMfBw.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:20:41 AM
Photo in Seoul from the military museum grounds and Conrad hotel exec lounge:

(https://i.imgur.com/xiF7ihw.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/W006nIY.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 16, 2025, 09:21:11 AM


Part of a large market in Seoul where we had a great lunch:

(https://i.imgur.com/v6skGx2.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ESCNRCO.jpeg)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 16, 2025, 10:01:26 AM
Here is the result of some electrician's effort in Cochin:

(https://i.imgur.com/FCOaJoU.jpeg)
(https://media.tenor.com/ZUwcyLdN5sgAAAAM/vomit-jim-carrey.gif)
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Post by: FearlessF on April 16, 2025, 10:05:41 AM
looks to be more of an internet issue
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on April 16, 2025, 10:07:43 AM
That's an awesome pic.  I really love navy warships.  I don't love war, but the ships are just so cool.

When I was a kid I used to love to tour the USS Kidd docked on the Mississippi in downtown Baton Rouge.  Even way back then I thought the living quarters and operations rooms were cramped and tiny, and I felt claustrophobic.  I can't imagine how it would feel now.
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Post by: Riffraft on April 16, 2025, 02:30:25 PM
Beach in st maarten.  Now 5 days at sea
(https://i.imgur.com/gFxxKkP.png)
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Post by: Riffraft on April 21, 2025, 07:37:11 AM
After 5 days at sea. Porto grande cape Verde


(https://i.imgur.com/z3ibJiG.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 21, 2025, 07:49:40 AM
Why travel at all?  If you basically like where you live, why leave?

Good question, one I ponder at times.  Obviously, the basic answer is "Travel if you enjoy it."  Kind of lame, but real I guess.  I thing some travel so they have cocktail party convo.  "I loved Phuket, you should go!!!".  Meh.  Probably not a lot of those around here.  Another is of course to see places you've read about, often they look different than you imagined, for better or worse.  You might like various museums.  Trying "real food" can be fun.  Meeting foreigners of course is interesting often as not.  "They" can be quite different individually from characatures.  

I like touring battlefields (my wife not so much).  The layouts are nearly always very different from what I imagined from the books.  The Normandy beachheads were quite different for example, Waterloo different because the landscape was "scraped" to create a monument to a prince who basically flubbed the thing.  Gettysburg was both more spread out and more compact than I had realized from maps in books.

I like some museums, some are just overwhelming to me.  I either want to spend a week there or just leave and never return.  

My wife and I were chatting yesterday about how nice it is to be home, which is a good thing, we like it here.  We were stuck here in COVID and it mostly was fine once things started opening up.  We had several trips delayed.  

We didn't engage in "travel baseball" when my kids were young.  That sounds exhausting, to me.  Traveling to play golf sounds like a neat thing, if I still played golf, and it can be pricey of course.  

Why do you like to travel, if you do?
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Post by: FearlessF on April 21, 2025, 08:11:32 AM
I like to travel to visit folks.
my brother in Texas, use folks at board meetings or football weekends, sharkwater parties, golf buddies, customers 
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Post by: utee94 on April 21, 2025, 09:50:09 AM
I can't imagine NOT traveling.  I like to see places that are different from where I live.  Different culture, different people, different viewpoints, different food, different scenery.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 21, 2025, 09:52:15 AM
Same.
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Post by: FearlessF on April 22, 2025, 08:20:28 AM
I traveled to spend a golf weekend in KC with this crew............years ago - when the Huskers were decent

  Fearless, SkiCat, Jack, Uncle Skeeter, Entropy, & Little Big Matt

(https://i.imgur.com/Gx39dxP.jpeg)
4 Huskers, a Wildcat, and a Cowboy
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Post by: utee94 on April 22, 2025, 08:46:15 AM
I remember hearing about that trip and seeing this picture back when.

Ski and WC4E came and visited the tailgate once, when the Cats played here in Austin.  Good dudes.  I never met Mateo Grande Pequeno in person sadly.
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Post by: Gigem on April 22, 2025, 09:49:57 AM
I traveled to spend a golf weekend in KC with this crew............years ago - when the Huskers were decent

  Fearless, SkiCat, Jack, Uncle Skeeter, Entropy, & Little Big Matt

(https://i.imgur.com/Gx39dxP.jpeg)
4 Huskers, a Wildcat, and a Cowboy
Geez, pictures looked so different from back then, and I'm assuming that was from a digital camera.  Good times. 
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Post by: FearlessF on April 22, 2025, 10:05:04 AM
not sure on the camera but it popped up as a facebook memory this morning, so it's been thru the wringer
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Post by: Riffraft on April 23, 2025, 06:00:02 AM
Why travel at all?  If you basically like where you live, why leave?

Good question, one I ponder at times.  Obviously, the basic answer is "Travel if you enjoy it."  Kind of lame, but real I guess.  I thing some travel so they have cocktail party convo.  "I loved Phuket, you should go!!!".  Meh.  Probably not a lot of those around here.  Another is of course to see places you've read about, often they look different than you imagined, for better or worse.  You might like various museums.  Trying "real food" can be fun.  Meeting foreigners of course is interesting often as not.  "They" can be quite different individually from characatures. 

I like touring battlefields (my wife not so much).  The layouts are nearly always very different from what I imagined from the books.  The Normandy beachheads were quite different for example, Waterloo different because the landscape was "scraped" to create a monument to a prince who basically flubbed the thing.  Gettysburg was both more spread out and more compact than I had realized from maps in books.

I like some museums, some are just overwhelming to me.  I either want to spend a week there or just leave and never return. 

My wife and I were chatting yesterday about how nice it is to be home, which is a good thing, we like it here.  We were stuck here in COVID and it mostly was fine once things started opening up.  We had several trips delayed. 

We didn't engage in "travel baseball" when my kids were young.  That sounds exhausting, to me.  Traveling to play golf sounds like a neat thing, if I still played golf, and it can be pricey of course. 

Why do you like to travel, if you do?
My wife likes to travel for rest relaxation and the ocean. I like to travel for the history, I love museums, ruins, etc.  I love dead languages and seeing the rosetta stone at the British museum was like seeing the holy grail.  I could have spent days in the British Museum, the louvre and the vatican museum.  This trip we are compromising.  First part relaxing across the ocean, next part many historical site mixed in with relaxing days.  Really looking forward to see the pyramids and the Sphinx and so much more. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 23, 2025, 07:10:56 AM
Sounds like a good plan.  My wife is similar about the beach and relaxing.  I'm OK with that.  She's OK with going and doing as well obviously.

I just proposed a trip to Montana in August, she seemed dubious.  I might change that for Montreal.
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Post by: FearlessF on April 23, 2025, 08:26:02 AM
I can relax at home
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Post by: FearlessF on April 23, 2025, 10:51:56 PM
Highway 128, often called the Upper Colorado River Scenic Byway, is one of the most breathtaking drives in the American Southwest. Winding along the banks of the Colorado River just northeast of Moab, Utah, this route offers a front-row seat to the dramatic red rock canyons, towering sandstone cliffs, and lush riverbanks that define the region’s iconic landscape. As you leave Moab and head north on U.S. Route 191, the turnoff onto Highway 128 feels like entering another world—one shaped by time, water, and the desert sun.

The highway snakes through narrow canyons, where walls of rock soar hundreds of feet above the road. In the early morning or late afternoon, the light paints the cliffs in shades of gold, crimson, and purple. Cottonwood trees line the river, providing contrast to the rugged terrain, especially beautiful in the fall when their leaves blaze yellow against the canyon walls. The proximity of the road to the river creates countless pullouts and photo ops, making it a paradise for photographers and road-trippers alike.

Several points of interest can be found along Highway 128, including the historic Red Cliffs Lodge, Fisher Towers, and access to hiking trails and campgrounds. The Fisher Towers Trail is a favorite for those looking to stretch their legs and take in surreal rock formations up close. Whether you're heading toward Interstate 70 or just exploring the area around Moab, this drive is a must-do, offering a quieter, more intimate experience of Utah’s canyon country—perfect for those who want to soak in the solitude and grandeur of the desert.


(https://i.imgur.com/qxBGkNI.png)
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Post by: Riffraft on April 24, 2025, 07:54:01 AM
Santa cruz de tennerife canary islands
(https://i.imgur.com/NZNWRne.jpeg)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 24, 2025, 07:59:05 AM
I love that place.
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Post by: Riffraft on April 26, 2025, 03:23:20 AM
Lisbon, Portugal 
(https://i.imgur.com/KFYpq7W.jpeg)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 26, 2025, 07:37:21 AM
Lisbon, Portugal
(https://i.imgur.com/KFYpq7W.jpeg)
I'd like to know what you think of the food scene. I was like CD - unimpressed.
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 26, 2025, 08:41:41 AM
I've never been to Lisbon.  My step daughter said it was fabulous.  

My wife claims I can find great places to eat when on vacation, but I think it's more random chance.  I will spend a bit of time with on line reviews but we all know what they can be like.

I've been around some folks who will choose one place because it got 4.3 out ot 5 and another place was "only" 4.1.

I usually read some reviews and try and discern who is being serious.
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Post by: Riffraft on April 27, 2025, 10:10:36 AM
View of gilbrater from the top of the rock
(https://i.imgur.com/vzGoF6S.jpeg)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 27, 2025, 10:20:22 AM
Watch out for monkeys.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 27, 2025, 06:32:20 PM
Here is the result of some electrician's effort in Cochin:

(https://i.imgur.com/FCOaJoU.jpeg)
Looks like the Philippines
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Post by: Riffraft on April 28, 2025, 03:30:58 AM
Watch out for monkeys.
They scared the crap out of my wife
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2025, 06:11:48 AM
We were advised to not wear sunglasses. We didn't. A guy in our group did and the monkeys took them from him - right off his face.
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 28, 2025, 07:34:15 AM
Our cruise next year has a stop at Gibraltar, it's transatlantic, so some days at sea, ends in Barcelona.

Looking forward to it, but over a year off, next cruise is out of Rome to Greek isles etc.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2025, 08:13:13 AM
We're eyeballing this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/DvJSbcu.png)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 28, 2025, 08:17:28 AM
That would be very nice, we did one somewhat similar except for the part east of Italy.  

My step daughter lives in Marseille, along with a couple other friends, so we've spent some time there.

We have not yet spent much time in Rome, so this would add some to that.  We take a couple days before the cruise mostly to adjust to the time zone, and then a couple after to look around before flying back.  My wife wants to stay the last two days at the Waldorf there, which "looks nice".  All I really want is a place that is clean with good mattresses in a decent location.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2025, 08:20:37 AM
This place was nice.

Hotel Artemide Rome | Boutique hotel Rome center, Official Website (https://www.hotelartemide.it/)

The other time we went we did a B&B.
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 28, 2025, 08:27:16 AM
We get some pretty nice bonuses at Hiltons in Europe and Asia (not so much in the US), so we tend to stay in that chain.

The exec lounges overseas are usually very nice and saves us a lot of money.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2025, 08:35:39 AM
I suppose I should give Hilton a try over there. I've not done it.
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 28, 2025, 08:48:54 AM
Without access to the exec lounge, I wouldn't prefer Hilton over other chains or options.  They give one "free" buffet breakfast and basically "free" dinner, if you want, with whatever wine you want.  The Conrads in Seoul and Tokyo were amazing.  And I might have enough points to stay "free" on occasion.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2025, 08:51:51 AM
Hilton's prices in Rome are ridiculous. No way I'm staying in their products over the boutique hotels and B&B's.
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Post by: Riffraft on April 29, 2025, 09:25:11 AM
Without access to the exec lounge, I wouldn't prefer Hilton over other chains or options.  They give one "free" buffet breakfast and basically "free" dinner, if you want, with whatever wine you want.  The Conrads in Seoul and Tokyo were amazing.  And I might have enough points to stay "free" on occasion.
we have 4 nights at the waldorf in Orlando being comped because of points.
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Post by: Riffraft on April 29, 2025, 09:32:12 AM
Nerja Spain
(https://i.imgur.com/Da6nTRA.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZcOZLK1.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 29, 2025, 10:11:50 AM
Newfound Gap in the 20's before it was a National Park, or so it's labeled,

(https://i.imgur.com/PSrspoq.jpeg)
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 29, 2025, 03:40:52 PM
Beartooth Highway, I would love to go back.

(https://i.imgur.com/n3wENPY.jpeg)
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Post by: FearlessF on April 29, 2025, 03:55:09 PM
possibly somewhat similar to the tail of the dragon
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 29, 2025, 05:00:46 PM
possibly somewhat similar to the tail of the dragon
I would say not at all.  
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Post by: Riffraft on April 30, 2025, 07:11:42 AM
It is ibiza today
(https://i.imgur.com/AsizqYO.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 30, 2025, 08:29:40 AM
I don't know how many here have driven "Tail of the Dragon", I drove it long before it got famous several times, in a car.  It's actually pretty boring to me, very tight curves one after another, a very old grade that probably followed an old wagon road with little change to the grade.  I drove it again maybe 20 years ago and it was almost solid bikes zomming about, still not interesting.  The area is heavily wooded so there is not view except one turout which overlooks a lake.  You just turn turn turn turn, could be in a gymkhana.

Beartooth is often credited with being one of the top drives in the US, and I'd agree.  I've yet to do Going to the Sun, it looks awesome as well.  I drove the stretch north of Sedona that gets a lot of credit and thought it was fine but not in the same class as the two above.  The Tioga Pass Road would finish my top three.  Yes, I've drive to Big Sur, it's a top ten to me.

The BRP south of Asheville would be top ten, for me.  Cherohala Skyway is quite nice, new grade and all, but goes from nowhere to nowhere.

US 395 up the eastern slopes of the Sierra is quite nice I think.  The Sonora Pass road is crazy with 26% grades, not that much to drive.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 30, 2025, 09:57:49 AM
I've never done TotD. I've heard so much about it from motorcyclists, but as CD mentions I'm guessing it's so heavily traveled these days--and likely so heavily policed as a result--that it might not be anywhere near as much fun as it was before it was so well-known. 

Angeles Crest Highway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angeles_Crest_Highway) here is similar. Known by all the motorcyclists, but it's so heavily-trafficked on the weekends that you might as well just stay away. Although from the description CD gave, at the very least ACH is probably a lot more "scenic" with some better views. 
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Cincydawg on April 30, 2025, 10:08:03 AM
This is a pretty represenative photo of TotD.  You face this for 11 miles with 318 curves, back and forth.  In a car to me it's boring.  You're glad when it ends.



(https://i.imgur.com/2ZpyW6Q.jpeg)
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 30, 2025, 10:38:09 AM
This is a pretty represenative photo of TotD.  You face this for 11 miles with 318 curves, back and forth.  In a car to me it's boring.  You're glad when it ends.



(https://i.imgur.com/2ZpyW6Q.jpeg)
In the right car, at the right speed... Not so boring. 

Hence the concern with "heavy policing" though... Lawman don' 'preciate the way I have fun. 
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Post by: FearlessF on April 30, 2025, 11:05:11 AM
looks similar to the coast hwy 1 I was on north of San Fran a few months ago
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Post by: Cincydawg on April 30, 2025, 11:10:07 AM
The TotD is in my view way too tight and repetitive to be interesting.  Maybe for a mile it's OK, but not for 11.  L R L R L R L R ... OK got it.

And yes, a cop car will be lurking.

I drove it back in the 70s and maybe saw one car the whole route, now it's jammed.
Title: Re: Travels and Impressions
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on April 30, 2025, 05:36:03 PM
There is no middle of nowhere anymore.