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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2022, 11:26:10 AM
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This was going into 2022. Hot seat rankings.
2022 College Football Hot Seat Rankings: Evaluating the job security of all 131 FBS coaches - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2022-college-football-hot-seat-rankings-evaluating-the-job-security-of-all-131-fbs-coaches/)
How about now?
When does Fitz warm up from a 0, like Paul Chryst was?
I would have not had PC at 0 on this list. The guy who hired him is no longer his boss. Probably a 1 or 2.
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Wildcats is a tough position.Look how long Ferentz or Richt got at traditionally better football programs.I wouldn't think of cutting Fitz loose unless there is something substantial to suggest it.He's an alum and really cares plus they do push classroom time
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I would not fire Fitz at this point, or maybe "ever". NW is an up and down program it seems. What do they expect anyway? If Illinois is a bit up, they will likely be down.
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Yeah, being good occasionally is a lot better than being good never. Fitzgerald should decide when he leaves.
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Ferentz should be on the hot seat. Iowa's offense has been ass for years.
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Well, the point of this is really PC being rated zero risk and gone 5 games in.
I guess Dodd doesn't know shit about shit when it comes to this stuff.
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Ferentz should be on the hot seat. Iowa's offense has been ass for years.
Bert would seriously consider that opening.Prolly be odds on favorite unless the Illini back up the trucks
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why move from Illinois to Iowa?
facilities? money?
can't be much of an advantage
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Played/coached under Hayden Fry at Iowa
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romance?
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You dreaming of next Saturday?Might get lucky at the kids wedding
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pretty sure Bert has better offers than Iowa city
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it's the reason the Iowa AD has no leverage with Kirk
who ya gonna git? not bert
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what's this "ya" shyt,Iowa would be the better offer.KIRK has run his course
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Bert could go to Wisconsin or Nebraska or a half dozen other places
illinois = iowa
why leave?
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Maybe he could go to Norman to replace Salina?
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Ferentz should be on the hot seat. Iowa's offense has been ass for years.
Brian Ferentz, Offensive Coordinator is on the hot seat, but no one in charge has figured out how to fire the coach's son, without losing the coach. The athletic director should have fired Brian F. after 2021, but the A.D. is not up to the job.
Bert would seriously consider that opening.Prolly be odds on favorite unless the Illini back up the trucks
Bielema was the head coach in waiting. I speculated he left for Arkansas because it would be difficult to transfer within the Big Ten. With his performance there he was no longer the head coach in waiting. Now with the transfer portal and players transferring within the Big Ten, it is not so difficult to envision a coach transferring within the conference.
Kirk Ferentz is 67. I suspect K.F. has two or three more years, unless he gets upset when the A.D. does to Brian F. what he should have done already, and quits as a result. I don't think K.F. would quit. He would reassign the boy to offensive line coach where he might do very well.
Bielema is down the list as a replacement at Iowa for now. Iowa has one of the top defensive coordinators in the country in Phil Parker who is 59, who I would expect might be offered. Iowa has a younger coach, Levar Woods, as special teams coach, and he has done an outstanding job, and would be an outstanding candidate, if Iowa is looking for a younger coach. And if they are looking elsewhere Bobby Stoops would be a candidate if he doesn't return to the Oklahoma job.
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Brian Ferentz, Offensive Coordinator is on the hot seat, but no one in charge has figured out how to fire the coach's son, without losing the coach. The athletic director should have fired Brian F. after 2021, but the A.D. is not up to the job.
Bielema was the head coach in waiting. I speculated he left for Arkansas because it would be difficult to transfer within the Big Ten. With his performance there he was no longer the head coach in waiting. Now with the transfer portal and players transferring within the Big Ten, it is not so difficult to envision a coach transferring within the conference.
Kirk Ferentz is 67. I suspect K.F. has two or three more years, unless he gets upset when the A.D. does to Brian F. what he should have done already, and quits as a result. I don't think K.F. would quit. He would reassign the boy to offensive line coach where he might do very well.
Bielema is down the list as a replacement at Iowa for now. Iowa has one of the top defensive coordinators in the country in Phil Parker who is 59, who I would expect might be offered. Iowa has a younger coach, Levar Woods, as special teams coach, and he has done an outstanding job, and would be an outstanding candidate, if Iowa is looking for a younger coach. And if they are looking elsewhere Bobby Stoops would be a candidate if he doesn't return to the Oklahoma job.
That Woods fellow has an interesting profile. Parker less so.
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Anybody think Brent Veneables May get the axe this season ?
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Somewhat related...
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Replacing a coach is like a box of chocolates ...
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I think Herm Edwards might move way up, depending on the sanctions ASU is due.
It takes a special HC to make the top half of the list twice (Muschamp).
Dooley is way too low. This list is probably mostly based on record at the school, but the fact Dooley was hired at all defies belief. He was a sub-.500 HC at Louisiana Tech when Tennessee hired him. There is simply no defense for that hire.
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I watched the Auburn game of course with a thought about Harsin, who I suppose has a seat the temperature of hot plasma now. His team seemed to play hard, they are severely hampered by not having a decent QB due to injurt, but then his QB room was thin. I know there were some off the field issues of some sort. But is some FNG going to do better? I really don't know. (duh). Programs can fall into the coaching merry-go-round like Tenn and Texas and just have a long spell of ... well you know.
I lean to thinking folks fire coaches more often than they should.
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Played/coached under Hayden Fry at Iowa
Also has a tigerhawk tat on his leg.
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Somewhat related...
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Replacing a coach is like a box of chocolates ...
Huskers with 3 in the top 25 and three before Texas has one
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if Iowa is looking for a younger coach. And if they are looking elsewhere Bobby Stoops would be a candidate if he doesn't return to the Oklahoma job.
Stoops is 62 and his name gets mentioned alot like Gruden's did ad nauseam. IMO if Kirk left or was shoved out Bert would be a strong possibility
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Somewhat related...
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Replacing a coach is like a box of chocolates ...
A fair amount in that graphic worth disagreeing with. In a vacuum, sure, that's as useful as anything.
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Anybody think Brent Veneables May get the axe this season ?
Good point depends on the buy out i suppose.But Riley hauled off some good players/recruits so that may buy him another season
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Cincydawg enjoys lists of this nature
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Brian Ferentz, Offensive Coordinator is on the hot seat, but no one in charge has figured out how to fire the coach's son, without losing the coach. The athletic director should have fired Brian F. after 2021, but the A.D. is not up to the job.
Not only was OC Brian Ferentz not fired, but Iowa made things worse by making Brian Ferentz the new QB coach in 2022 after long time mentor Ken O'Keefe retired.
Needless to say, Brian Ferentz as both OC and QB coach has been a complete disaster of historical levels. From now on Brian Ferentz will represent the measuring stick of just how bad a QB coach could possibly be. Possibly the worst QB coach in modern college football history.
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worse than Jimmy Harbaugh?
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Not only was OC Brian Ferentz not fired, but Iowa made things worse by making Brian Ferentz the new QB coach in 2022 after long time mentor Ken O'Keefe retired.
Needless to say, Brian Ferentz as both OC and QB coach has been a complete disaster of historical levels. From now on Brian Ferentz will represent the measuring stick of just how bad a QB coach could possibly be. Possibly the worst QB coach in modern college football history.
Should let Buds handle the QB coaching.
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Captain Kirk should be on the hot seat, but a $42 million buyout keeps that seat ice cold. And unlike Paul Chryst in Madison, I don't think Kirk will walk away with a penny less than what he's owed.
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Kirk is ornery
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Should let Buds handle the QB coaching.
Yes the Iowa staff could use a shakeup.
Fire the OL coach. The OL is terrible and now is committing a lot of penalties.
Demote Brian Ferentz to OL coach where he was at least competent in the past.
Promote Jon Budmyr from offensive analyst to the new OC and QB coach.
At the very least make Budmyr the new QB coach and co-offensive coordinator. Brian Ferentz can be the OL coach and the other co-offensive coordinator. Just make sure Budmyr takes over the play calling.
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It would be unfathomable for Venables to be on the hot seat this year. That'd be utterly ridiculous.
A lot of fans seem to wish the former Domer down in Baton Rouge was on the hot seat, but he's not, because that'd be likewise ridiculous.
Both those guys need to show improvements as early as next year, tho, or else they'll be coaching for their job every week in year 3.
Well....I say that, but Kelly's buyout will probably prohibit LSU from being relevant again until like 2030
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Somewhat related...
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Replacing a coach is like a box of chocolates ...
The point of those lists is to be awful, and that list is quite awful.
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The point of those lists is to be awful, and that list is quite awful.
It's on my list of "awful lists".
Fans often think, I think, (to the extent they think at all) that getting rid of the HC will "solve whatever it is". Michigan would have a slam bang offense if only they hired a QB guru head coach with NFL experience and success. Iowa would suddenly be good if only they hired Urban Meyer.
LSU would return to greatness if only they hire some famous HC who had success at another major program.
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Tim Brewster not hitting a list of 50 bad hires is further evidence of the sheer awfulness of that list.
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It's on my list of "awful lists".
Fans often think, I think, (to the extent they think at all) that getting rid of the HC will "solve whatever it is". Michigan would have a slam bang offense if only they hired a QB guru head coach with NFL experience and success. Iowa would suddenly be good if only they hired Urban Meyer.
LSU would return to greatness if only they hire some famous HC who had success at another major program.
True, yet there are obvious situations where a coach has to go, and getting rid of Orgeron was one of them. For on and off-field reasons.
Will they return to greatness with a coach who had success elsewhere? Heck if I know, but 1) he was as good a hire as any since a hire had to be made, and 2) year 1 won't tell us anything one way or the other. LSU brought 38 scholly players to the bowl game last season, and this roster is cobbled together with transfer portal kids who couldn't make it elsewhere, and underclassmen. If you don't follow the program it's impossible to overstate how quickly and how badly O tanked the roster and the culture. Nobody was coming in here and polishing this turd. I hope he's "the guy." I think he's an odd fit for our school and I have my doubts.
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It's on my list of "awful lists".
Fans often think, I think, (to the extent they think at all) that getting rid of the HC will "solve whatever it is". Michigan would have a slam bang offense if only they hired a QB guru head coach with NFL experience and success. Iowa would suddenly be good if only they hired Urban Meyer.
LSU would return to greatness if only they hire some famous HC who had success at another major program.
I've seen Michigan hire pretty bad head coaches in RichRod and Hoke and become a gutter program. No thanks. I'll stick with the devil I know. I don't like Harbaugh at all- he just is what he is in terms of an offensive coach and that's never going to change- but the guy is a pretty good head coach. He's keeping Michigan in the top 25 basically every season with the exception of what seems like a flukish COVID year- and getting around 10 wins a year. Hey, I'll take it.
Dude can recruit. Dude can identify and scout talent and develop talent. Dude can field good OLs and DLs and brings toughness to the lines of scrimmage that had been severely lacking prior to his arrival. And the games are won/lost in the trenches. IMO he doesn't need to be replaced- he just needs to be neutered by the AD. Offense needs to be completely ripped out of his hands- he shouldn't even be allowed in offensive meetings or have decisions on QB, RB, WR personnel, passing scheme, or OC hires.
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There are certainly off field reasons for firing the HC. We all see a LOT of programs fire a fairly successful guy and then go through a merry-go-round of coaches either not given enough time or simply worse as HCs - Texas, Tennessee, USC, Eastern Michigan, Florida, ... Finding the right balance is a trick when you have Deep Pocket Donors calling you at 2AM every night.
What if Ohio State had kept Fickell? My guess is he'd be doing pretty well, maybe not as well as Day is, but 10+ wins a year. Luke seems to be a good coach at least at a lesser program. What if UGA had kept Richt? My guess is they'd be averaging 10+ wins a season, probably not being a playoff team more than once, maybe. Richt didn't do much at Miami.
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There are certainly off field reasons for firing the HC. We all see a LOT of programs fire a fairly successful guy and then go through a merry-go-round of coaches either not given enough time or simply worse as HCs - Texas, Tennessee, USC, Eastern Michigan, Florida, ... Finding the right balance is a trick when you have Deep Pocket Donors calling you at 2AM every night.
What if Ohio State had kept Fickell? My guess is he'd be doing pretty well, maybe not as well as Day is, but 10+ wins a year. Luke seems to be a good coach at least at a lesser program. What if UGA had kept Richt? My guess is they'd be averaging 10+ wins a season, probably not being a playoff team more than once, maybe. Richt didn't do much at Miami.
Lost back-to-back bowl games to Wisconsin. That got him fired.
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There are certainly off field reasons for firing the HC. We all see a LOT of programs fire a fairly successful guy and then go through a merry-go-round of coaches either not given enough time or simply worse as HCs - Texas, Tennessee, USC, Eastern Michigan, Florida, ... Finding the right balance is a trick when you have Deep Pocket Donors calling you at 2AM every night.
What if Ohio State had kept Fickell? My guess is he'd be doing pretty well, maybe not as well as Day is, but 10+ wins a year. Luke seems to be a good coach at least at a lesser program. What if UGA had kept Richt? My guess is they'd be averaging 10+ wins a season, probably not being a playoff team more than once, maybe. Richt didn't do much at Miami.
I agree with you 100%- Ohio State would be nowhere near what they are right now if they went with Fickell and let Ryan Day go get a head coaching gig somewhere else. Fickell is a really good defensive coach. Ryan Day is an ELITE offensive coach. Think you're pretty much on the money- they'd be a 10+ win competing for B1G- not the juggernaut that they currently are. Same thing with UGA. Kirby took their recruiting up a notch and he's an elite defensive coach.
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I don't think Kirk will walk away with a penny less than what he's owed purloined.
FIFY,why couldn't i have spineless hacks negotiating against me like that :021:
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Lost back-to-back bowl games to Wisconsin. That got him fired.
Not technically.
It, along with two bad years of offense got his son fired. And when Richt refused to can his kid, he was gone.