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Title: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: ELA on September 29, 2022, 02:02:45 AM
https://twitter.com/DannyEcker/status/1575244089779490816?t=LTw2IBoaVT6_QeEB0z0xkQ&s=19
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 29, 2022, 08:57:32 AM
Nice of them to do that for the visiting fan bases. 
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Cincydawg on September 29, 2022, 08:59:49 AM
I view single use stadia as being inefficient and silly.  Any new one should accomodate many uses beyond football in my view.



Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: utee94 on September 29, 2022, 09:05:35 AM
True, but as the old axiom goes, jack of all trades, master of none.  Multi-use stadia tend to not be particularly good at any one thing.

When UT removed the track in our football stadium, and built a track-specific stadium next door, it improved the experience for both sports.

Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: GopherRock on September 29, 2022, 09:24:41 AM
That line of thinking got us the Metrodome, Fulton County Stadium, the Vet, Three Rivers, and Riverfront Stadium. None of the aforementioned cookie cutter multi-users have been fondly remembered.

As far as getting this through the Evanston City Council, good luck. That's some of the wealthiest real estate in greater Chicago, and they'll play hell allowing something like that to be built in their precious little neighborhood.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 29, 2022, 09:29:31 AM
True, but as the old axiom goes, jack of all trades, master of none.  Multi-use stadia tend to not be particularly good at any one thing.

When UT removed the track in our football stadium, and built a track-specific stadium next door, it improved the experience for both sports.
That is true for Ohio State as well. When I was in school the South Stands (at the open end of the Horseshoe) were a temporary structure that was disassembled and reassembled every year. My dad called it the "Erector Set" because it looked vaguely like a scaled up version of the kids toy.

It was nice in that tOSU had an Olympic sized track inside of an 80-90k stadium but I don't think that even Jesse Owens actually managed to fill the stadium for track meets. 
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: FearlessF on September 29, 2022, 09:44:29 AM
That line of thinking got us the Metrodome, Fulton County Stadium, the Vet, Three Rivers, and Riverfront Stadium. None of the aforementioned cookie cutter multi-users have been fondly remembered.

As far as getting this through the Evanston City Council, good luck. That's some of the wealthiest real estate in greater Chicago, and they'll play hell allowing something like that to be built in their precious little neighborhood.
it does state that the old stadium will be torn down and the new one on-site

so, no real estate needs to be bothered
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Cincydawg on September 29, 2022, 09:47:29 AM
Compare MB stadium which is often used for other events (and soccer) with the Cincy NFL stadium, which is used for a few NFL games a year and nothing else.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: FearlessF on September 29, 2022, 09:49:38 AM
a football stadium in just a large rectangle

it can easily be used for other events

baseball, not as much

I don't know if the Wildcats play baseball
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: GopherRock on September 29, 2022, 10:05:58 AM
The bigger point is that the rest of Evanston isn't going to want to change the status quo. Classic town v. gown.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Cincydawg on September 29, 2022, 10:08:39 AM
A dome makes a stadium multiuse capable even in bad weather.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: FearlessF on September 29, 2022, 10:39:51 AM
The bigger point is that the rest of Evanston isn't going to want to change the status quo. Classic town v. gown.
the haters may not have much recourse if it's entirely on University property
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 29, 2022, 11:03:30 AM
The bigger point is that the rest of Evanston isn't going to want to change the status quo. Classic town v. gown.


Yeah, gotta love the people that buy a house next to a college, and then complain when they do the things that colleges do. 
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Temp430 on September 29, 2022, 11:57:14 AM
Where will the Wildcats play while Ryan is being demolished and the new stadium built?
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 29, 2022, 12:11:05 PM
Where will the Wildcats play while Ryan is being demolished and the new stadium built?
I would guess Soldier Field, no?
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 29, 2022, 01:40:07 PM
How long will it take? The local D1 is still putting the final touches on a press box that has been under construction since at least 2020, and probably longer. 
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2022, 02:06:35 PM
seems like a massive waste of nearly $1 billion dollars.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: LittlePig on September 29, 2022, 03:38:11 PM
I would guess Soldier Field, no?
I am guessing there are a lot fans that attend NW games would prefer Soldier field.  I know I would prefer Soldier Field when NW hosts Iowa.

NW should just forget the new stadium and move into Soldier field when the Bears move to Arlington Hts.  Or better yet, NW should just move its games to Arlington Hts.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 29, 2022, 04:05:40 PM
seems like a massive waste of nearly $1 billion dollars.
I am guessing there are a lot fans that attend NW games would prefer Soldier field.  I know I would prefer Soldier Field when NW hosts Iowa.

NW should just forget the new stadium and move into Soldier field when the Bears move to Arlington Hts.  Or better yet, NW should just move its games to Arlington Hts.
I agree with the two of you. I think it would make more sense for Northwestern to save the Billion Dollars and just play wherever the Bears are playing. 

Alternatively it would be even better if they could get some kind of deal to effectively build the Bears a stadium on the Ryan Field site and rent it to the Bears while reserving it for themselves for their games as well. The you'd get double duty out of the boxes and high-dollar luxury suites.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: ELA on September 29, 2022, 04:13:05 PM
Alternatively it would be even better if they could get some kind of deal to effectively build the Bears a stadium on the Ryan Field site and rent it to the Bears while reserving it for themselves for their games as well. The you'd get double duty out of the boxes and high-dollar luxury suites.
They want to build in an area where they also control the surrounding parking, and bar/restaurant areas.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: GopherRock on September 29, 2022, 04:26:48 PM
They want to build in an area where they also control the surrounding parking, and bar/restaurant areas.
That's why the McCaskeys bought Arlington Park Racetrack. Keep all the game day revenue in house instead of the Chicago Park Board keeping much of it. 

Early renderings of the New Brickhouse was a joint stadium with the Vikings, with the same terms as the Dome. The multiuse crowd were hawking the multiuse benefits loudly, even after getting shot down cold at both Winter Park and Morrill Hall. 
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 29, 2022, 04:28:57 PM
They want to build in an area where they also control the surrounding parking, and bar/restaurant areas.
Ah, never mind.

https://youtu.be/OjYoNL4g5Vg
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Cincydawg on September 30, 2022, 08:50:48 AM
seems like a massive waste of nearly $1 billion dollars.
Maybe, at least it's private monies, or so they claim.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: FearlessF on September 30, 2022, 09:12:53 AM
I'd guess the "donors of substance" from Northwestern can afford it

3 or 4 decide to chip in, it's done
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 30, 2022, 09:55:02 AM
That's an expensive downgrade, capacity-wise.  Spend a ton of $$$ to make less $$$ each game....
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: LittlePig on September 30, 2022, 10:24:33 AM
Maybe, at least it's private monies, or so they claim.

Just make sure that Brett Favre and the state of Mississipppi welfare services are not involved in the fundraising
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: FearlessF on September 30, 2022, 10:38:30 AM
That's an expensive downgrade, capacity-wise.  Spend a ton of $$$ to make less $$$ each game....
I'm guessing it's been a long time or maybe never that the existing stadium has been filled to standing room only
and obviously trending downward
They aren't limiting the gate take by downsizing
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2022, 11:07:01 AM
Just make sure that Brett Favre and the state of Mississipppi welfare services are not involved in the fundraising
Well...or make sure they are
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: FearlessF on September 30, 2022, 11:09:11 AM
more Vicodin, please
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: LittlePig on September 30, 2022, 01:36:47 PM
Once the Bears build their indoor stadium in Arlington Hts., I could maybe see the annual end of season game between NW and ILL on Thanksgiving weekend being moved to the new Bears stadium every year.  

Afterall, the students all go home for Thanksgiving weekend, and I am guessing a large percentage of ILL alumni live in the NW Chicago suburbs.  Plus the game will be indoors.  It could probably get a decent crowd every year.
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 30, 2022, 01:45:15 PM
Once the Bears build their indoor stadium in Arlington Hts., I could maybe see the annual end of season game between NW and ILL on Thanksgiving weekend being moved to the new Bears stadium every year. 

Afterall, the students all go home for Thanksgiving weekend, and I am guessing a large percentage of ILL alumni live in the NW Chicago suburbs.  Plus the game will be indoors.  It could probably get a decent crowd every year.
I've long thought that would make a lot of sense even at Soldier Field. 
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2022, 02:40:01 PM
Hopefully they bring a tape measure before they try to play it in a baseball stadium again though
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: FearlessF on October 01, 2022, 08:57:33 AM
Once the Bears build their indoor stadium in Arlington Hts., I could maybe see the annual end of season game between NW and ILL on Thanksgiving weekend being moved to the new Bears stadium every year. 

Afterall, the students all go home for Thanksgiving weekend, and I am guessing a large percentage of ILL alumni live in the NW Chicago suburbs.  Plus the game will be indoors.  It could probably get a decent crowd every year.
still wouldn't sell out the new lower capacity stadium
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: Cincydawg on October 01, 2022, 09:02:17 AM
still wouldn't sell out the new lower capacity stadium
They might with opposing team's fans ... that is how Tech sells out ...
Title: Re: New Northwestern stadium
Post by: FearlessF on October 01, 2022, 09:05:06 AM
not going to be with the ILL alumni

unless Bert gets much better

today will be a test for him

those Thanksgiving weekend games are only well attended if the conference title is on the line or something of substance