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Title: #11 Michigan State (2-1) at Washington (3-0) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on September 15, 2022, 09:45:31 AM
The game is Saturday night at 7:30 PM EDT on ABC.  Unranked Washington is favored by 3 points.  Washington is better this year so we'll find out if Sparty is a B1G contender or not.  Thorne hasn't looked quite as good as last year.
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 15, 2022, 10:13:24 AM
this game is really interesting to me. I got Sparty.
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 15, 2022, 10:33:03 AM
me too

but, it's tough to win on the left coast
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 15, 2022, 11:25:39 AM
Big Ten always seems to crap the bed in these September Pac 12 road games
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 15, 2022, 11:29:41 AM
Big Ten always seems to crap the bed in these September Pac 12 road games
I can't wait to see Wisconsin do the same in Pullman next year.
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: GopherRock on September 15, 2022, 12:27:05 PM
I can't wait to see Wisconsin do the same in Pullman next year.
Is it in Pullman? Wazzu's school year doesn't start until Week 4, so they usually play their noteworthy non-con games at Seahawk Stadium in Seattle.

Big Ten teams do not have a good record on the West Coast in September. 
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 15, 2022, 12:42:45 PM
Is it in Pullman? Wazzu's school year doesn't start until Week 4, so they usually play their noteworthy non-con games at Seahawk Stadium in Seattle.

Big Ten teams do not have a good record on the West Coast in September.
This is all I have. If it were Seattle, 5 years ago, I'd probably go.


(https://i.imgur.com/RJNuVr4.png)
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on September 15, 2022, 01:29:36 PM
Georgia Southern, the bane of Frost.
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 15, 2022, 09:56:53 PM
if the QB is back next season, look out
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: CatsbyAZ on September 16, 2022, 08:00:30 AM
Big Ten always seems to crap the bed in these September Pac 12 road games

I’m reminded of a 15th ranked Michigan State’s visit to Tempe in 2018. A 16-13 loss to Arizona State. I’m picking Washington for what will be an early season upset.

Washington is playing functionally better than last year, when they opened the season with a loss to Montana. Yes, Kent St and Portland St aren’t much to brag about; you’re supposed to blow them out, and the Huskies did 45-20 and 52-6. More importantly the offense is playing wide open and attacking downfield which they didn’t do last season.

Washington has a talented enough roster to be the Pac 12’s clear cut #5 team (behind USC, UCLA, Utah, and Oregon), and the coaching change appears to be fielding a much more organized, energized team. We’ll see.

Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 16, 2022, 08:07:03 AM
Mel Tucker is a better coach than Mark Dantonio. Never thought I'd say that, but just take a look.

MSU 27-20.
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 16, 2022, 09:42:23 AM
I’m reminded of a 15th ranked Michigan State’s visit to Tempe in 2018. A 16-13 loss to Arizona State. I’m picking Washington for what will be an early season upset.

Washington is playing functionally better than last year, when they opened the season with a loss to Montana. Yes, Kent St and Portland St aren’t much to brag about; you’re supposed to blow them out, and the Huskies did 45-20 and 52-6. More importantly the offense is playing wide open and attacking downfield which they didn’t do last season.

Washington has a talented enough roster to be the Pac 12’s clear cut #5 team (behind USC, UCLA, Utah, and Oregon), and the coaching change appears to be fielding a much more organized, energized team. We’ll see.
They also lost to a pretty bad Cal team early in MD's tenure.  The loss at Marcus Mariota's Oregon team is forgivable
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-0, 0-0) at Washington (2-0, 0-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 16, 2022, 03:51:40 PM

#11 Michigan State Spartans (2-0) at Washington Huskies (2-0)
7:30 - Seattle, WA - ABC
Two games in, and the vibes around Washington football have flipped in a hurry.  The Husky program needed to revitalize a dead offense, and brought in new head coach Kalen DoBoer and Indiana transfer quarterback Michael Penix Jr., to do just that.  While Penix spent 4 years in the Spartans' division, he hasn't seen a whole lot of them.  In 2018, he didn't get tabbed until after the teams had already played, and in 2021 he was already injured by that point.  But in the two years in between, he tortured them.  Indiana split the games, but the Hoosiers put up 31 points both times, and Penix was a combined 58-80 for 606 yards, 5 touchdowns, and 2 interceptions.  Through two games against overmatched opponents in 2022, he's off to an explosive start, completing 70% of his passes, for 340 ypg, 6 touchdowns and just 1 interception.  Throw in the fact that these September Pac 12 road games seemingly always give Big Ten teams trouble, and you've got an issue.  Michigan State's last road win at a Pac 12 school, wasn't even a Pac 12 school then, because there was no Pac 12.  It was a 1984 win at Colorado.  Otherwise it was a 1957 win over a 1-9 PCC team in California.  Since that win they are a combined 0-12, including a loss in their lone road game in Seattle, 42-16 in 1970.  But...lets not forget how much this Washington team struggled last year, and wins over Portland State and Kent State don't magically erase that, nor does a 1970 game have any impact.  After opening 2021 ranked #20, the Huskies opened with a 13-7 loss to FCS Montana, got blasted by Michigan, and wound up 4-8, firing Jimmy Lake midway through the season.  They still haven't defeated a bowl team since 2019, so they still have prove it mode.  Michigan State wants to prove that their pass rush can hold up against stiffer competition.  They lead the nation with 12 sacks through 2 games, led by UNLV transfer Jacoby Windmon who leads the nation in both sacks (5.5) and forced fumbles (4).  I think Washington is on the right track, and Penix has sped up their timeline, but the offense is still lacking enough weapons around him.  Granted, if Jayden Reed can't go for Michigan State, his status is still up in the air, then the Spartan passing attack looks to be shaky as well.  Payton Thorne has had three straight iffy outings, dating back to the Peach Bowl last season.
MICHIGAN STATE 31, WASHINGTON 26

Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-1) at Washington (3-0) Post Game
Post by: ELA on September 18, 2022, 09:10:19 AM
I liked the Scottie Hazelton hiring, but it just ain't working.  Also the OL still looks like trash
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-1) at Washington (3-0) Post Game
Post by: MrNubbz on September 18, 2022, 09:24:18 AM
Big Ten always seems to crap the bed in these September Pac 12 road games
Honestly didn't see it coming, The Red Cedar Board was on fire
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-1) at Washington (3-0) Post Game
Post by: bayareabadger on September 18, 2022, 09:50:40 AM
They also lost to a pretty bad Cal team early in MD's tenure.  The loss at Marcus Mariota's Oregon team is forgivable
I don’t know why this interested me, but I looked back at it. 

Those games are always weird because we remember how they felt in the moment. That Cal team ended up pretty Ok (9-4), and the Arizona State team was very mediocre, but so was MSU. 

Anyway, no real point to that other than I’m groggy this morning and was curious.
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-1) at Washington (3-0) Post Game
Post by: ELA on September 18, 2022, 03:13:04 PM
Honestly didn't see it coming, The Red Cedar Board was on fire
The way I calculate my number for the previews, had MSU by 12.  I gave Washington a full TD swing from my number, and still had MSU by 5.  The OL is still a big problem.  And the secondary is as well, particularly the safeties.  The pass rush covered it up the first two games, but Washington neutralized it.  The front seven wasn't bad, but it wasn't good, and certainly not great.  And if they aren't great, the secondary is going to get exposed
Title: Re: #11 Michigan State (2-1) at Washington (3-0) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on September 19, 2022, 08:55:06 AM
Sparty only had 42 yards rushing.  Wow.

No Doak award winner portaled in this year I guess.