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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on September 09, 2022, 02:43:14 PM
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Link to last week's rankings (https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/b1g-power-rankings-week-1-30127/new/#new).
Votes through me, 14 voters:
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Drop the high and low for each team:
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Schedule/performance chart:
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1) Ohio State - Not totally polished, but coming along
2) Penn State - Strongly considered for #1
3) Michigan - Won't know for awhile how good they are
4) Purdue - Probably the best in the West
5) Minnesota - Like Michigan we won't know much for awhile
6) Michigan State - easy win
7) Wisconsin - Lost a game they would win without a million mistakes
8) Rutgers - easy win
9) Maryland - easy win
10) Illinois - nice bounceback. Contender in the West
11) Iowa - defense is too good to go lower
12) Northwestern - usually the noon starts in Evanston put the other team to sleep
13) Indiana - only moving up because...
14) Nebraska - destroyed our eliminator poll
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1. OSU
2. Mich
3. Minn
4. MSU
5. PSU
6. Purdue
7. Wisc
8. Ind
9. ILL
10. Rut
11. MD
12. Iowa
13. NW
14. Neb
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1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Michigan State
4. Minnesota
5. Penn State
6. Purdue
7. Maryland
8. Wisconsin
9. Illinois
10. Rutgers
11. Indiana
12. Iowa
13. Northwestern
14. Nebraska
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1 Michigan-
2. OSU the ND win looks less now
3. Minnesota -best of the west so far, no test until MSU on the road
4. Maryland - their O is for real
5. MSU- taking care of business
6. PSU solid
7. Purdue
8. Wisconsin -OL needs to get better
9. Indiana- slow start in the rain
10. Rutgers-no longer the door mat
11. Illinois - the fighting Berts!
12. Iowa- strong defense
13. Northwestern - Duke? are they playing basketball
14. Nebraska eliminator of the elimination game
middle tier is a roll the dice to where they'll land, and is closer to the bottom than the top
the West is really down this year
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1- tOSU
2- Me-e-e-sheegan
3-Sparty - shut out,even it's just vs Akron
4-Fighting Fleck's as BT2 said,best of the west
5-Maryland
6-PSU
7-Purdue
8-Rutgers
9-Wisc
10-Illini
11-Hoosiers
12-Brian's song
13-NU
14 UNL
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1) Ohio State - did nothing to lose top spot but the big W vs ND doesn’t look so big anymore
2) Michigan - The era of JJ is upon us…Michigan will only get better with him
3) Penn State - very solid team all the way around- vet Clifford is a steady hand and leader
4) Michigan State - looking a lot better early than I thought they would
5) Purdue - best in the west right now probably
6) Wisconsin - think they’ll get it together and move up this ranking- call it a hunch
7) Minnesota - not tested but look good
8) Maryland - who knows- may be fools gold but look pretty solid
9) Iowa - rock solid D & STs, zero offense
10) Rutgers - think they’ve improved significantly but we’ll find out soon.
11) Illinois - meh
12) Northwestern - Lol
13) Indiana - yawn
14) Nebraska - self explanatory
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- Ohio State - Beat their cupcake as expected.
- Michigan - JJ is definately an upgrade at QB. However, will not know for some time how good or bad they are until they play someone with a pulse.
- Penn State - Looked good against their cupcake.
- Michigan State - Same
- Minnesota - Same
- Purdue - Same
- Maryland - Same
- Wisconsin - Play calling seems to be an issue. Let Wash St. hang around too long and paid the price. They need to establish their dominance with their O-Line early and wear down weaker opponents. Not sure they get that.
- Illinois - Beat a bad Va team.
- Rutgers - Can't say that I've ever heard of Wagner, but they made Rutger look good.
- Iowa - Ahead of Indiana only because of their Defense. If I was a coach with an offense this bad, I would take a knee for 3 downs and punt and hope the Defense can score.
- Indiana - Problems with Idaho does not bode well for them when the conf schedule kicks off.
- Northwestern - They did beat Nebraska head to head, so they stay out of the bottom spot.
- Nebraska - The coaching search begins.
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1. OSU
2. UM
3. MSU
4. MN
5. PSU
6. UW
7. RU
8. MD
9. PU
10. UI
11. IA
12. IU
13. NU
14. UNL
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- Ohio State
- Michigan
- Penn State
- Michigan State
- Minnesota
- Maryland
- Rutgers
- Iowa
- Purdue
- Wisconsin
- Illinois
- Northwestern
- Nebraska
- Indiana
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01. Michigan Wolverines (2-0) - Last years champs continue to mow down underdog opposition.
02. Ohio State Buckeyes (2-0) - ND win looking very sus.
03. Penn State Nittany Lions (2-0) - didn't see this game, no reason to drop them.
04. Minnesota Golden Gophers (2-0) - umm, yah I know the opponent wasn't anything; but WOW. (what I would expect from OSU...)
05. Michigan State Spartans (2-0) - Defense looking stout
06. Maryland Terrapins (2-0) - early season darlings, let's see how they in conference.
07. Rutgers Scarlet Knights (2-0) - what am I thinking, putting Rutgers this high? But how the teams below them have played I'd pick the Knights.
08. Purdue Boilermakers (1-1) - should contend for the west
09. Indiana Hoosiers (2-0) - down 10 to Idaho at half, not impressive
10. Illinois Fighting Illini (2-1) - nice looking win
11. Wisconsin Badgers (1-1) - I expect Wisconsin to move up, but if they keep playing this poor it's gonna be a rough year.
12. Iowa Hawkeyes (1-1) - Hey! They scored a touchdown....
13. Northwestern Wildcats (1-1) - Duke made the kitties look bad.
14. Nebraska Cornhuskers (1-2) - So bad they fired their coach.
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I want to flip Penn St and Sparty. I think Penn St has better roster probably but James Franklin is their coach. Mel Tucker is a much better coach than Franklin.
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I want to flip Penn St and Sparty. I think Penn St has better roster probably but James Franklin is their coach. Mel Tucker is a much better coach than Franklin.
I haven't entered anything yet, go ahead and edit yours.
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01. Michigan Wolverines (2-0) - Last years champs continue to mow down underdog opposition.
02. Ohio State Buckeyes (2-0) - ND win looking very sus.
03. Penn State Nittany Lions (2-0) - didn't see this game, no reason to drop them.
04. Minnesota Golden Gophers (2-0) - umm, yah I know the opponent wasn't anything; but WOW. (what I would expect from OSU...)
05. Michigan State Spartans (2-0) - Defense looking stout
06. Maryland Terrapins (2-0) - early season darlings, let's see how they in conference.
07. Rutgers Scarlet Knights (2-0) - what am I thinking, putting Rutgers this high? But how the teams below them have played I'd pick the Knights.
08. Purdue Boilermakers (1-1) - should contend for the west
09. Indiana Hoosiers (2-0) - down 10 to Idaho at half, not impressive
10. Illinois Fighting Illini (2-1) - nice looking win
11. Wisconsin Badgers (1-1) - I expect Wisconsin to move up, but if they keep playing this poor it's gonna be a rough year.
12. Iowa Hawkeyes (1-1) - Hey! They scored a touchdown....
13. Northwestern Wildcats (1-1) - Duke made the kitties look bad.
14. Nebraska Cornhuskers (1-2) - So bad they fired their coach.
I am not doing this- because Medina gets mad at me.
having said that: What has Michigan done? Clubbed 2 HORRIBLE teams that may be among the 2-3 worst teams in FBS?
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I am not doing this- because Medina gets mad at me.
having said that: What has Michigan done? Clubbed 2 HORRIBLE teams that may be among the 2-3 worst teams in FBS?
I question things, I don't get mad.
I think the top is anyone's guess right now. Ohio State's win over ND was a top-5 win at the time but now it is a rather unimpressive 11 point win over an unranked, 0-2 team. Ohio State's other win is a ho-hum win over a very bad team. Ohio State has done nothing to definitively claim the #1 spot but these performances also aren't bad enough to necessitate dropping them in the absence of a strong claimant.
As far as potential claimants, I agree with your statement above wrt Michigan and nearly the same can be said about PSU, MSU, and MN so for now I'll just leave tOSU at #1 but with the understanding that the spot is basically available.
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- Ohio State
- Michigan
- Penn State
- Michigan State
- Minnesota
- Maryland
- Purdue
- Rutgers
- Iowa
- Wisconsin
- Indiana
- Illinois
- Northwestern
- Nebraska
Maryland, Rutgers and Indiana would all be contenders in the B1G West.
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Who knows? I don't!
- Ohio State
- Michigan
- Penn State
- Michigan State
- Minnesota
- Purdue
- Rutgers
- Illinois
- Wisconsin
- Northwestern
- Iowa
- Rutgers
- Nebraska
- Maryland
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As far as potential claimants, I agree with your statement above wrt Michigan and nearly the same can be said about PSU, MSU, and MN so for now I'll just leave tOSU at #1 but with the understanding that the spot is basically available.
FWIW, this weekend the Buckeyes, Wolverines, and Gophers are all 3+ TD home favorites over cupcakes so we aren't likely to learn much about any of them but the Nittany Lions and Spartans are both playing road games against undefeated teams and have 3 point spreads so they have opportunities to prove something.
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Although they are lower in our rankings, I would also add Indiana and Maryland as undefeated teams playing good Group of 5 teams this weekend.
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Last week in parentheses
- MICHIGAN (2) - not that they've done anything impressive, simply that OSU having as much trouble as they did against ND looks bad now
- OHIO STATE (1) - see above
- PENN STATE (4) - way to avoid any doubt in a trap game
- MICHIGAN STATE (5) - Thorne continues to look off, but the defensive front seven looks outright nasty
- MINNESOTA (6) - did what they were expected to
- PURDUE (8) - FCS win
- WISCONSIN (3) - 4.0 ypc against a Washington State defense?
- IOWA (7) - I guess the defense knows they can't give up 8
- MARYLAND (10) - September Maryland always looks good
- INDIANA (9) - considering Idaho nearly beat Washington State, maybe struggling for a half isn't the worst thing
- ILLINOIS (13) - Bert is one defensive stand away from Illinois' first 3-0 start since 2011
- RUTGERS (11) - you never yawn a 59 point win for Rutgers
- NORTHWESTERN (14) - getting dominated at home by Duke, and yet moving up, because...
- NEBRASKA (12) - ...I can no longer say Week 0 was a fluke
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Are we dismissing the possibility that OSU might have beaten ND twice?
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Are we dismissing the possibility that OSU might have beaten ND twice?
Highly possible, but with these Power Rankings we can only go on the data we have so far. ND is kind of broken now with their starting QB out for the year, so it probably won't be looked at as a quality win going forward. I think the Buckeyes have a pretty interesting game this week against MAC favorite, Toledo. If the Buckeyes win convincingly, they can retake/solidify that #1 spot, but if they struggle to put them away, then I think it would be time to move them down to #2 or #3. I also am fully prepared to put Penn State #1 if they demolish Auburn.
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Are we dismissing the possibility that OSU might have beaten ND twice?
It was Marshall... so...
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It was Marshall... so...
What a weekend for Matthew McConaughey.
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Highly possible, but with these Power Rankings we can only go on the data we have so far. ND is kind of broken now with their starting QB out for the year, so it probably won't be looked at as a quality win going forward. I think the Buckeyes have a pretty interesting game this week against MAC favorite, Toledo. If the Buckeyes win convincingly, they can retake/solidify that #1 spot, but if they struggle to put them away, then I think it would be time to move them down to #2 or #3. I also am fully prepared to put Penn State #1 if they demolish Auburn.
My thoughts exactly. Ohio State will drop to 0-3 ATS so far this year unless they demolish Toledo. One or two is maybe random but 0-3 ATS is definitely a trend. Then there are the other contenders to consider:
- Michigan: They haven't proven anything either way so far and that is unlikely to change until at least October 1 (Iowa) and with the look of Iowa's offense we might not get a real look at Michigan until October 15 (PSU).
- Penn State: I don't feel confident in my assessment of Purdue yet so I'm not sure if I should ding PSU for the close win or credit them for the road win and beating up MAC teams is expected of top (or even middling) B1G teams so the win over the Bobcats proves nothing. Now if they walk into Jordan-Hare and beat the daylights out of the Tigers, I'll definitely move them to #1.
- Michigan State: They have two blowout wins but they are over two MAC teams so I don't think we know yet. If they walk into Husky Stadium and beat the daylights out of the Huskies I'll probably move them up but I'm not sure how much because I'm not yet sure how good Washington is either. That said, road wins on the West Coast aren't common for B1G teams.
- Minnesota: They are 2-0 with two blowout wins but their two opponents are a combined 0-5 and this week's opponent is 0-2 so it is not unlikely that after this weekend the Gophers will be 3-0 against three teams that are a combined 0-10. Minnesota isn't going to get a chance to prove anything until they travel to East Lansing next weekend.
- The only other undefeated teams in the B1G are the rest of the teams in the B1G-E but I feel reasonably confident that while Indiana, Rutgers, and/or Maryland may be better than some of the teams above, they probably aren't better than all of them.
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Are we dismissing the possibility that OSU might have beaten ND twice?
It is definitely a possibility. The Notre Dame/Ohio State game ended up being a tough, physical game and the mental state of teen and 20-something players IS a factor in this sport.
That said, unfortunately we aren't likely to ever really know. Unless Buchner's backup looks REALLY good, Notre Dame is likely to take a big step back so the Buckeyes probably beat a better team in their opener than it will appear in December.
OTOH, I don't believe that tOSU beat a legitimate top-5 team even with Buchner so it may balance out a bit.
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Grr! I had my vote all set and clicked "Post" then the site hiccuped and it got lost and I had to start over. Anyway:
Format is votes are chronological from L->R:
- Ohio State (1,1), the Buckeyes have been far from awe-inspiring but I haven't seen enough out of any of the other contenders to move them up so I'll hold serve and wait for more information.
- Michigan (2,2), see above.
- Penn State (4,4), as noted upthread, if they dominate the Tigers they'll go to #1.
- Michigan State (5,5), if they dominate the Huskies . . .
- Minnesota (6,8), as noted upthread, there is a not unlikely possibility that the Gophers could move to 3-0 this weekend against three teams that are a combined 0-10.
- Wisconsin (3,3), that loss on the road would have been one thing but at home, that was BAD.
- Purdue (7,7), waiting for more information.
- Maryland (9,12), is this just another September Maryland?
- Rutgers (10,13), the Scarlet Knights have looked solid so far against mediocre-to-poor opponents and that is an improvement in Piscataway.
- Illinois (13,9), nice bounce back win.
- Iowa (8,6), waiting for Iowa's second TD of the season.
- Indiana (12,10), was the Illinois win a fluke?
- Northwestern (11,11), I think their win over UNL was more about UNL than NU but I could be wrong.
- Nebraska (14,14), well beating OU would be a great job interview for the interim coach.
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Who knows? I don't!
- Ohio State
- Michigan
- Penn State
- Michigan State
- Minnesota
- Purdue
- Rutgers
- Illinois
- Wisconsin
- Northwestern
- Iowa
- Rutgers
- Nebraska
- Maryland
You ranked Rutgers both 7th and 12th and didn't rank Indiana. Should I assume you meant Rutgers 7th and Indiana 12th?
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Nit all cupcakes are equal.
We never learn…..
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updated rankings...
1) Ohio State
2) Michigan
3) Michigan State
4) Penn State
5) Purdue
6) Wisconsin
7) Minnesota
8) Maryland
9) Iowa
10) Rutgers
11) Illinois
12) Northwestern
13) Indiana
14) Nebraska
flipped Sparty and Penn State because: James Franklin. I'm half expecting Penn State to lose a close one score game on the road to Auburn....because: James Franklin.
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My thoughts exactly. Ohio State will drop to 0-3 ATS so far this year unless they demolish Toledo. One or two is maybe random but 0-3 ATS is definitely a trend. Then there are the other contenders to consider:
- Michigan: They haven't proven anything either way so far and that is unlikely to change until at least October 1 (Iowa) and with the look of Iowa's offense we might not get a real look at Michigan until October 15 (PSU).
- Penn State: I don't feel confident in my assessment of Purdue yet so I'm not sure if I should ding PSU for the close win or credit them for the road win and beating up MAC teams is expected of top (or even middling) B1G teams so the win over the Bobcats proves nothing. Now if they walk into Jordan-Hare and beat the daylights out of the Tigers, I'll definitely move them to #1.
- Michigan State: They have two blowout wins but they are over two MAC teams so I don't think we know yet. If they walk into Husky Stadium and beat the daylights out of the Huskies I'll probably move them up but I'm not sure how much because I'm not yet sure how good Washington is either. That said, road wins on the West Coast aren't common for B1G teams.
- Minnesota: They are 2-0 with two blowout wins but their two opponents are a combined 0-5 and this week's opponent is 0-2 so it is not unlikely that after this weekend the Gophers will be 3-0 against three teams that are a combined 0-10. Minnesota isn't going to get a chance to prove anything until they travel to East Lansing next weekend.
- The only other undefeated teams in the B1G are the rest of the teams in the B1G-E but I feel reasonably confident that while Indiana, Rutgers, and/or Maryland may be better than some of the teams above, they probably aren't better than all of them.
So you do realize that ATS is meaninglessness right? At least it should be in someone’s power rankings.
It is nothing more than a random number generated for gambling, intended to bring in money from both sides of a bet on a football game.
in fact the theory is if done correctly most teams should end up right around .500 against the spread. For example the two national championship participants last season, Georgia and Alabama were 8-5 and 7-6 against the spread.
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So you do realize that ATS is meaninglessness right? At least it should be in someone’s power rankings.
It is nothing more than a random number generated for gambling, intended to bring in money from both sides of a bet on a football game.
in fact the theory is if done correctly most teams should end up right around .500 against the spread. For example the two national championship participants last season, Georgia and Alabama were 8-5 and 7-6 against the spread.
I do, and I'm not even a gambler. I'm just using it here as a rough (and I DO realize that it is ROUGH) proxy for overperformance/underperformance.
I think it generally works that way. For example, Bama was favored over Texas by three TD's and won by one point on a FG as time expired. That WAS an underperformance by Bama and an overperformance by Texas and accordingly:
- Bama dropped a spot in the National rankings despite the win, and
- Texas jumped up into the rankings despite the loss.
Similarly, Ohio State was favored over Notre Dame by about two TD's and won by marginally less than that and dropped.
Understand that my power rankings each week are based on the previous week's rankings plus a bump up for teams that perform above my expectations or a bump down for teams that perform below my expectations.
So far this year, Ohio State has performed slightly below my expectations. As we discussed previously, I thought that Notre Dame was an insanely overrated team so I didn't really look at that win as a top-5 win, I looked at it as a decent win, not great. I honestly don't know much about Arkansas State but they were abysmal last year so I expected a VERY easy win, easier than what we saw.
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Yeah, how was Notre Dame in the top 5 with a new HC and a new QB? That always seemed a little weird. That's higher than any of BK's teams were ever pre-season ranked, and he was the winningest HC in school history. Freeman is completely green.
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I do, and I'm not even a gambler. I'm just using it here as a rough (and I DO realize that it is ROUGH) proxy for overperformance/underperformance.
I think it generally works that way. For example, Bama was favored over Texas by three TD's and won by one point on a FG as time expired. That WAS an underperformance by Bama and an overperformance by Texas and accordingly:
- Bama dropped a spot in the National rankings despite the win, and
- Texas jumped up into the rankings despite the loss.
Similarly, Ohio State was favored over Notre Dame by about two TD's and won by marginally less than that and dropped.
Understand that my power rankings each week are based on the previous week's rankings plus a bump up for teams that perform above my expectations or a bump down for teams that perform below my expectations.
So far this year, Ohio State has performed slightly below my expectations. As we discussed previously, I thought that Notre Dame was an insanely overrated team so I didn't really look at that win as a top-5 win, I looked at it as a decent win, not great. I honestly don't know much about Arkansas State but they were abysmal last year so I expected a VERY easy win, easier than what we saw.
They did win easily against Arkansas St. and that’s a perfect sample of why the pointspread is total garbage.
The only two players that had any success for Arkansas State were the quarterback, who success was very minor, but was a multiyear starter at Florida State. And they had one receiver who made some nice pllays-who was 1000 yard receiver last year at Oregon State. That’s a team is loaded with division one transfers and Ohio State wiped the floor with them.
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Although I agree these point spreads that are over 30 are kind of pointless to worry about, that game did remain somewhat competitive into the early 3rd quarter. Once the score was 38-9, it doesn't really matter after that if they cover the spread or not. The remainder of the game falls into the garbage time slot, which is something that SP+ tracks (or rather doesn't track) very well. But it was 24-9 at halftime, and I think you can definitely argue that it was disappointing that the game was still in question at that point.
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They did win easily against Arkansas St. and that’s a perfect sample of why the pointspread is total garbage.
The only two players that had any success for Arkansas State were the quarterback, who success was very minor, but was a multiyear starter at Florida State. And they had one receiver who made some nice pllays-who was 1000 yard receiver last year at Oregon State. That’s a team is loaded with division one transfers and Ohio State wiped the floor with them.
And to be fair it is ALWAYS difficult to evaluate the scale of a beat down of an obviously very inferior opponent which is why I have no idea what to think of the Wolverines. They are a lot like Minnesota. The Wolverines are 2-0 against two teams that are a combined 0-5 and this week's opponent is 1-2 and the one win came against an FCS team that remains winless. Thus, there is a not unlikely possibility that Michigan will move to 3-0 this weekend against teams that are a combined 0-10 against FBS opponents.
I don't mean that to pick on Michigan and I'm not saying that they suck, I'm merely saying that we really don't know and I think nearly all of us can agree on that.
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Although I agree these point spreads that are over 30 are kind of pointless to worry about, that game did remain somewhat competitive into the early 3rd quarter. Once the score was 38-9, it doesn't really matter after that if they cover the spread or not. The remainder of the game falls into the garbage time slot, which is something that SP+ tracks (or rather doesn't track) very well. But it was 24-9 at halftime, and I think you can definitely argue that it was disappointing that the game was still in question at that point.
I agree and to be honest I didn't even watch so what you said above was the extent of my analysis and I use the same measurement that you used above:
- At what point was the game no longer in doubt?
I don't care if the favorite gave up some late points to make it look close or scored some late points to make it look like a blowout. I care when the favorite effectively ended the game. Against a team as terrible as I *THINK* ArSt is, I *THINK* that should have been in the first half.
That said, @Honestbuckeye (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=37) makes a good point about transfers so maybe the Red Wolves are better than I'm giving them credit for, give it a few weeks and we'll know a lot more.
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Although I agree these point spreads that are over 30 are kind of pointless to worry about, that game did remain somewhat competitive into the early 3rd quarter. Once the score was 38-9, it doesn't really matter after that if they cover the spread or not. The remainder of the game falls into the garbage time slot, which is something that SP+ tracks (or rather doesn't track) very well. But it was 24-9 at halftime, and I think you can definitely argue that it was disappointing that the game was still in question at that point.
I could not disagree more. It wasn’t disappointing at all. Ohio State was up 14 to nothing within minutes but had their punt return touchdown called back by some obscure penalty about leaping over the blocking wedge or something like that? Basically, they never let their opponents even sniff the end zone. The game was never in question. People forget football games are 60 minutes not 1/4 or 1/2. This holier than thou pointspread is based on 60 minutes.
it’s funny how people overreact when a team favored by 30 is only up by 15 at halftime.
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I consider 15 points at halftime to still be in doubt. I know the Buckeyes came back from 21-7 at halftime vs. Wisconsin a few years ago.
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I consider 15 points at halftime to still be in doubt. I know the Buckeyes came back from 21-7 at halftime vs. Wisconsin a few years ago.
Sure if it’s two top-notch teams are two equally matched teams, I would agree. But when one team can’t seem to stop the other team and that same team can’t move the ball into the end zone it’s pretty apparent that the results are not going to change
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I guess I didn't really feel like they were a threat to actually win, but it was competitive enough that I wasn't ready for the backups to go in until the Buckeyes were up by 4 TDs. If the Buckeyes can put Toledo (a much better team) away by mid 3rd-quarter, then I wouldn't be disappointed. If Stroud has to play the entire game and Toledo is hanging around down by 14-17 into the 4th quarter, then I would say they haven't performed up to expectations. We saw what the Buckeyes could do last year as they put really good teams (Michigan State 49-0, Purdue 35-7) away quickly last year. Haven't seen that yet this year, so can just go by what we've seen so far.
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It's always going to be close early though, because the teams start out tied and you can only score 7 at a time.
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The first half should generally be enough time to put away a team that is in the bottom quarter of FBS teams. Maybe Arkansas State is a little better than that, but usually Ohio State is up 35-0 or more against teams like that by halftime. They were up 13-6 over Tulsa last year, which was clearly disappointing. They were up 38-7 vs. Akron last year, which I think is more along the lines of expected results.
Tulsa turned out to be a little better than thought last year, so maybe Arkansas State is the same. It may be the year of the Sun Belt afterall.
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I consider 15 points at halftime to still be in doubt. I know the Buckeyes came back from 21-7 at halftime vs. Wisconsin a few years ago.
And I'm still pissed. F Ryan Day and his fake punt. Bitch.
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The first half should generally be enough time to put away a team that is in the bottom quarter of FBS teams. Maybe Arkansas State is a little better than that, but usually Ohio State is up 35-0 or more against teams like that by halftime. They were up 13-6 over Tulsa last year, which was clearly disappointing. They were up 38-7 vs. Akron last year, which I think is more along the lines of expected results.
Tulsa turned out to be a little better than thought last year, so maybe Arkansas State is the same. It may be the year of the Sun Belt afterall.
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/the-situational/2022/09/132966/the-situational-theory-of-everything
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You ranked Rutgers both 7th and 12th and didn't rank Indiana. Should I assume you meant Rutgers 7th and Indiana 12th?
Yes. From an Iowan's perspective, I think Iowa could beat Indiana, and not Rutgers.
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results posted
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Composite computer rankings (50 rankings - last week in parenthesis)
- Georgia (1)
- Alabama (2)
- OHIO STATE (3)
- MICHIGAN (4)
- Clemson (5)
- Oklahoma State (7)
- Oklahoma (8)
- Tennessee (13)
- Arkansas (15)
- PENN STATE (11)
- Kentucky (17)
- MICHIGAN STATE (14)
- BYU (21)
- Baylor (9)
- Utah (16)
- Ole Miss (19)
- Mississippi State (24)
- Cincinnati (20)
- Texas (22)
- Kansas State (-)
- Iowa State (-)
- Wake Forest (-)
- NC State (25)
- MINNESOTA (23)
- Notre Dame (6)
- 29. Purdue (33)
- 30. Wisconsin (12)
- 41. Iowa (27)
- 51. Maryland (50)
- 52. Illinois (62)
- 72. Indiana (69)
- 75. Rutgers (76)
- 79. Nebraska (61)
- 88. Northwestern (66)