The NIL as bad as I think it is for college football seems to be providing the Horns with some key prospects
Namely our offensive line future is getting better by the minute
We might even have a decent OB or two so who knows
Now if Sark and his crew will just develop them properly we could be back
It cant be worse then last year
What would be considered "a pretty decent year" for Sarkisian to survive in decent shape? Not a miracle year, but a pretty good year.If the fans see sufficient improvement in both the defense and the OL then a 8-4 year would probably be good enough
10-2? I'd think 8-4 would be disappointing, 9-3 would be decent ...
Coaches are judged by their W-L records, but that can be a tricky metric.
The collection of better talent isn't always the better team. And the better team doesn't always win. And the W-L record for a given season can be deceptive. Sometimes a team is better than its record; sometimes it's worse.
As examples, OU under Muleshoe lost twice each to Iowa State and Kansas State teams with inferior talent. And last year's 11-2 season was deceptive, as the Sooners went 6-1 in games decided by one score. A 9-4 or 8-5 record might have been a more accurate reflection of the team's level of excellence.
I would think that the eye test of how well the team is playing, as well as the W-L record, would (or should) be part of the test of Sarkesian's improvement in Year 2.
Who's winning the battles on the line, the offense's ability to close out a game, the defense's ability to get 3rd-down stops--factors like that that should reflect the W-L record, but sometimes don't do so all that well.
(https://y.yarn.co/1c0e3150-10d2-4edb-b666-3ca3f24cde36_text.gif)and we both know how that ended
I'm pretty sure Texas will get "back", USC as well, not sure about Nebbie.If they only lose to Bama my guess is they will make the playoffs
I was walking with my wife today and musing about how many games Kirby might win at UGA before he retires. I think Dooley had 201. And of course CKS could fall on hard times and get fired, but he's in good shape at the moment. Fickleness or fickality.
In 2022, my GUESS is they'll go 11-1, lose to Bama, and maybe win some NY6 bowl game. 12-2 and some fans will be ungruntled.
I know how y'all feel0-8 in games with a 1-score margin of victory/defeat is a bitter pill.
havent heard from uterin latelyHas she had a kid or two?
0-8 in games with a 1-score margin of victory/defeat is a bitter pill.or even 2-6 if the 2 were a couple gooduns
Scott Frost's seat would be a lot cooler now if he could have gone 4-4 in those games.
Has she had a kid or two?I don't think so
If so, maybe she's busy.
Austin from late September thru November is usually pretty great. Or mid-March through early June. If you do come around lemme know, I'll give you some real recs. Unless you trust your kiddo to have that covered, which is of course totally okay. :)mid October thru early April
Here you go, Utee: Texas Longhorn Football bites!Sigh. It's sad but true.
Feel free to chew on that while you self-loathe.
Has she had a kid or two?
If so, maybe she's busy.
I don't think so
mid October thru early AprilWay too cold. That's when I hibernate and drink nothing but whiskey and barrel-aged stouts....
nothing wrong with December, January, or February in Austin
Oh, the horror!Amen, brutha! ;)
Winter in Austin, Texas.
it is rough sledding when the power goes out during the winterWould be a shitload worse if the power went out in the summer.
Yeah she and her husband were pretty dedicated to never having kids.Yeah, she posts a fair bit on FB, along with the lady UGA and Arkansas fans.
We're facebook friends and pass greetings back and forth from time to time. My guess is she has less interest in Texas football these days because sucking sucks.
Yup I'm also friends with Razorchique. I don't know the UGA lady and I've never met KStateLady in person but a lot of the facebook folks are friends with her.I've met them all
I've met them allIf she did, then she didn't come by the tailgate party..
Probably why they don't frequent this place
KStatelady never made the trip to Austin???
That was some party. Gator and I didn't go to the game but watched UGA play (and beat) Florida while dog watching an old Bulldog named Pearl.I was really glad to meet you, and gatorama too! I'm glad you had a good time.
That was a good trip for me, I was still in a bit of a funk.
Harvard’s Status as Wealthiest School Faces Oil-Rich Contender in the University of Texas
I remember watching that game at the tailgate.
Some dude's like "why are we watching Wisconsin play Indiana?"
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-harvard-university-of-texas-richest-college-oil-endowments/There's an old aggie joke about the PUF....Why does A&M only get 1/3 of the PUF ? A: Because they picked first !
I'm certain that I've never, ever recited that joke aloud, amongst company... ;)I've often heard this is actually the truth. Of course, back in the '20's and throughout most of the 20th century A&M was much smaller than UT so our 1/3rd share was actually a good deal.
I've often heard this is actually the truth. Of course, back in the '20's and throughout most of the 20th century A&M was much smaller than UT so our 1/3rd share was actually a good deal.
There has been some talk in recent years of letting other schools get a share, like the Texas Tech system and even the Texas State system.
So is UT/Bama up next? May be quite a game. May not. Entertaining either way.Yup, this coming Saturday 11 AM. Both ESPN College Gameday and Fox pre-game whatever-it's-called will be broadcasting from Austin.
Yup, this coming Saturday 11 AM. Both ESPN College Gameday and Fox pre-game whatever-it's-called will be broadcasting from Austin.Thats pretty much what all the "experts" are saying. I would just hope the Horns play with a chip on their shoulder and dont get blown out.
Texas has some weapons but just not enough, and not deep enough. It might (or might not) stay close in the first half. I don't expect it'll end up close at the end of the 4th.
I suspect that--from the coaches' perspective--the biggest problem with Casey Thompson is Charles Thompson's presence looming over every decision affecting his son.Charles has stayed completely out of the picture so far. At least to the fan's and media's perception
At least that was the case with older-brother Kendal Thompson about 8 years ago when he played at OU.
I think it's only worth mentioning cause Lord Saban wasn't awareSure. And I mean, why would he be? We've only played him and his team once in the past 40 years or so, and that was over a decade ago.
Sure. And I mean, why would he be? We've only played him and his team once in the past 40 years or so, and that was over a decade ago.Huh, reading through the articles, they're saying we'll be using B12 refs. That's unusual, typically the visiting team brings its own officials to OOC home games in Austin. Or occasionally they'll use 3rd party officials.
Anyway with SEC refs, I have no idea whether or not they'll call it.
Generally, the refs are either from the visitor's conference or from another conference.Yeah, at the time (and perhaps still) the PAC was the only conference that insisted on using its own refs for home OOC games.
But not always.
In the infamous OU-Oregon game in Autzen Stadium, the incompetent and/or cheating refs were from the then-Pac-10.
I believe a sports reporter asked a representative of the Big 12 Officiating office that question several years ago at one of the Big 12 Media Days before the season. In the context of taunting and general boorish behavior, the reporter asked if "Horns Down" might be considered taunting and draw a flag. The official answered, "Yes, it could be.". That was the extent of it.
The exchange was reported as "Horns Down to be penalized as unsportsmanlike".
There's obviously a nuanced context that got ignored.
I can't even read stuff like that. To me that game just stopped-- got completely suspended-- the moment Colt went down. And it never resumed. We were all sitting there in stunned disbelief. The rest of the game was like a dream. A really bad dream.That describes my view exactly
I'm not exaggerating at all.
That describes my view exactly
I resist saying thats why we lost but had he not been injured the game was definitely winnable
The thing is Colt was not injury prone which made it even harder to takeIt wasn't even a debilitating injury per se. A perfect bump between the shoulder blades happened to clip a nerve responsible for his throwing arm. Never seen this injury repeated anywhere.
Texas chose to ride with a superstar player for the entire season. They came within 50 minutes of game time from pulling it off. Texas wins that game 45-20 or something if Colt stays healthy. Alabama wasn't built to play our type of offense (it won A&M a Heisman later).12 years later, that game sure seems like a turning point. That was Mack's last great team. And Mack has not yet been suitably replaced. The verdict is still out on Sarkesian.
I'm sure Alabama suffered their own critical injuries throughout the season. You play the game with the team you have. While it was the ugliest of bad beats, backup QB was the weak link, and it broke there.
Generally, the refs are either from the visitor's conference or from another conference.Here's an example of how it's often done. OSU and Central Michigan last Saturday played the 3rd game of a 2-for-1 series. The 1st game was at CMU in 2015, and it used Big 12 officials. In the controversial-ending 2016 game in Stillwater, it was MAC officials in charge. Last Saturday, it was ACC officials officiating the game in Stillwater.
But not always.
In the infamous OU-Oregon game in Autzen Stadium, the incompetent and/or cheating refs were from the then-Pac-10.
It wasn't even a debilitating injury per se. A perfect bump between the shoulder blades happened to clip a nerve responsible for his throwing arm. Never seen this injury repeated anywhere.I get it. Colt played football very physically. For Colt it was an additive deal. Years and years of hard hitting football. It finally caught up to him at a bad time. Mack lived and died by his QBs, for better or worse. When his QBs stopped being superstars he ceased being a superstar. He did what he did with essentially 4 QB’s for his entire tenure at Texas. Major, Simms, Vince, and Colt.
To paraphrase Ron Washington, "Sometime, that's how football go".
Alabama is a better football team than Texas, and should win tomorrow. However, I'll watch because (a) I'm a fan and (b) Texas doesn't have to be a better football team. They just have to be better tomorrow for that one game.
I get it. Colt played football very physically. For Colt it was an additive deal. Years and years of hard hitting football. It finally caught up to him at a bad time. Mack lived and died by his QBs, for better or worse. When his QBs stopped being superstars he ceased being a superstar. He did what he did with essentially 4 QB’s for his entire tenure at Texas. Major, Simms, Vince, and Colt.all head coaches do in both college and the pros
all head coaches do in both college and the prosSaban got away with game-manager QBs for quite awhile. Matt Mauk at LSU. A.J. McCarron at Bama. That type of guy. Good, but not great.
Texas giving Bama all they can handle. Ewers looks to be the real deal. Not sure what his injury status is or if he’s coming back. Looked like a clean hit ( late but not malicious).you cant drive the QB into the ground which is why there was a penalty
Texas looked like the better-coached team out there today. Alabama was penalized 100 yards, and it could have/should have been a lot more. They got away with a DPI in the end zone and a late face-mask violation, neither of which was called. They hit late consistently.
Maybe Bama looks better when SEC officials are in charge and "let 'em play."
I'll post what I posted on an OU board today.sometimes the PI was so obvious I was stunned no flag was thrown
But maybe I was wrong about the coaching. Maybe the Bama defense is coached to hit late and dirty because they can get away with it in the SEC.
Just once Id like to finish a Bama game with the same QB we started withYup. That's one way of putting it.
The outcome of this game was... problematic. I've never witnessed anything like it.I think any Horn who watched this game feels the same way
I can't really say anything else without being accused of being a poor sport so I guess I'll leave it at that.
CBS cites various sources (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/quinn-ewers-injury-texas-star-qb-out-multiple-weeks-after-exiting-alabama-game-per-reports/) estimating that Ewers will be out "at least" 2-3 weeks or is expected to miss 4-6 weeks. Might or might not be available for the RRS.I do remember that tackle he threw himself at the runners knees and down he went
This reminds me of 2009, when Sam Bradford injured his shoulder in Week 1 at JerryWorld vs. BYU. He came back for the RRS but was re-injured in that game and missed the rest of the season/rest of his career at OU. And 2009 turned out to be a miserable year for the Sooners.
Little offense and no reliable place-kicker led to the following losses: 14-13 to BYU, 21-20 to Miami, 16-13 to Texas, 10-3 to Nebraska, and an embarrassing 41-13 loss to Texas Tech.
Horns might remember that Colt McCoy made an amazing tackle to prevent a pick-six that might have been the difference in the game.
Card looked good considering that his right ankle was apparently injured.I think Card will be a good QB its just that our future lies with Ewers IMHO
fantastic ballgame by the longhorns. couple observations:Thanks for posting rolltidefan
1 - sucks so bad about the qb. hope he recovers fully and quickly. it's terribly unfortunate we were robbed of not just 1, but now 2 games due to injury. and i'm sorry it was at your expense both time. truly sucks.
2 - on that injury note, i've always held that the bcs title game would have been a different game, but i'm not sure the result changes all that much. maybe, but i don't think so. that is not true of this game. as it was, bama should have lost by 2 tds, maybe more. with the qb, very likely more. 1st string kid is a baller, card isn't bad, and longhorns definitely came to play for at least this week.
3 - refs were awful. both side got robbed, but i think i'd tilt it in bama favor for most favorable calls. lots of pi missed. those 2 roughing passer calls were just terrible, but that one on young... i don't even know what to say. shoulda been a safety.
4 - from bama perspective, the penalties were killer, and mostly self inflicted. so so many stupid penalties. especially by leaders like anderson. just had a bad game all around, though he did have 2 key plays.
5 - as day played out, i started feeling better about that game. not due to anything bama did, but it's obvious the upset juju was out in full force, and surviving that is never a bad thing.
good luck longhorns. maybe you're back? see you in ttown next year.
Thanks for posting rolltidefanyeah, saban takes a ton of heat about being evil, but he's really class. and i remember the feeling on the other side when he was at lsu. don't get me wrong, he makes mistakes just like everyone, like calling out aTm recruiting (though that was hilarious), but he's generally class about things like that. and i think he genuinely cares for his kids and the game itself, even if he's the dark lord at the moment.
Good game
My opinion of Sabin rose somewhat when he made his players stop doing the upside down hookem sign post game
I thought that showed class
anyway see you guys next year
so utee you have not commented on our def play last weekDefense played well, I think we're already seeing the positive influence of Gary Patterson. I haven't commented because I just really don't want to talk about the game. I was so thoroughly sickened by the ultimate outcome that I don't have any desire to discuss it.
you have to be somewhat happy with them
UTSA lost to Houston in overtime and beat Army so this wont be a cakewalk
Even though the Horns are favored by 14.5 pts I'd be tempted to take UTSA and the points if I bet on this one
I'm sure Roschon Johnson is a kind man who loves his momma. He plays football, though, like the world hurt his puppy.I always wanted to see Texas run the flexbone when we had James Brown, Ricky Williams, Priest Holmes, and Shon Mitchell all in the same backfield.
For those of us who wanted to know what would happen if RoJo, Bijan, and Kelian Robinson all lined up in the backfield, this might be the time.
We don't have time to teach it, but Texas would run the most psychotic flexbone offense in history.
I'm sure Roschon Johnson is a kind man who loves his momma. He plays football, though, like the world hurt his puppy.I'd be watching
For those of us who wanted to know what would happen if RoJo, Bijan, and Kelian Robinson all lined up in the backfield, this might be the time.
We don't have time to teach it, but Texas would run the most psychotic flexbone offense in history.
I was so thoroughly sickened by the ultimate outcome that I don't have any desire to discuss it.
A medical miracle has happenedhttps://youtu.be/CwNnJooRtNc?t=426 (https://youtu.be/CwNnJooRtNc?t=426)
Card will start next Sat
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Reggie McNcNeal was one of the best to ever grace the Maroon and White (he took down #1 rated OU in 2002) but he had problems with his ankles off and on. Playing in Fran's option offense in later years made it worse.gee thanks for the comforting words there
Some players are great, until they get the nagging ankle injuries and then they are never the same.
gee thanks for the comforting words thereDems are the breaks !
Dems are the breaks !we dont know anything right now about it and you have him on his death bed
we dont know anything right now about it and you have him on his death bedNah, he'll probably be back in a week or two. I was just remarking about how a high ankle sprain can take a long time to heal, even until the next season or never sometimes.
sheeesh
One "insider" is saying Card will start tomorrow.Steve Austin would be jealous
But it's Chip Brown and he's wrong at least 75% of the time, so I'm expecting it actually means they had to amputate Card's entire leg below the hip.
Reggie McNcNeal was one of the best to ever grace the Maroon and White (he took down #1 rated OU in 2002) but he had problems with his ankles off and on. Playing in Fran's option offense in later years made it worse.
Some players are great, until they get the nagging ankle injuries and then they are never the same.
Because Card could continue to play while injured tells me its not a real serious sprain and he'll be ready to go in a few weeks
maybe sooner then that who knows
Turns out, I'm well versed in ankle injuries.Reports are that this week he was taking snaps so again I dont think his sprain is of a non weight bearing kind
The thing about high ankle sprains: I finished the practice (played for over an hour) on the injury I described above. I was limping when I came to the car, and my wife asked me what was wrong. I told her about twisting my ankle.
When I took off my sock, my leg had already begun to swell and look ugly. She asked if I wanted to head to the ER. I shrugged it off. She pointed to our 6 month old daughter and explained that if I didn't want to go now, then I could just suffer through tonight, because she wasn't waking up the baby later on when I started complaining. I went to the ER.
The tale here is that, in the immediate aftermath of the injury, the leg was just sore. I could hobble sort of peg-legged style. I'm not fast anyway, but I kept up.
The next morning, it hurt to have the leg be vertical. Bearing weight was out of the question. Ankle sprains usually take 12 hours or so to fully realize themselves.
Hudson Card could be in any conceivable condition right now from ready to play to out for the season. Sark wants that information kept private. Everyone else is helping besides Chip.
Wright received some other FBS offers. It's not like he's a walk-on. If the o-line can play as well as it has the past two weeks, and we lean on the running game pretty heavily, there's no reason Wright shouldn't be able to manage a win for the team.which will help this team in more ways then just winning this game
Horns took care of business tonightSo, who played QB?
Last year we would have lost this game
UTSA will win a lot of games this year
So, who played QB?Card played entire game
I was in Lincoln and didn't get to see anything of your game.
Good for him! I guess his high ankle sprain has turned out to be of the milder variety.
Ewers was looking great before his injury. Obviously just a part of one game that I saw, but he looks like he could really be something special.inquiring minds want to know
Weird that Texas QBs keep getting their shoulders injured against Bama.
Or is it?
Sure hope so. With Card gimping around, I think we only have a slightly better than even chance at beating Texas Tech and West Virginia over the next 2 weeks. And zero chance at beating OU the week after that.I'll be that guy and quote myself here.
some very good signs for the Horns in the OU gameI wouldn't say that Ewers was "very accurate." He wasn't bad, but he missed some wide (and I do mean wide) open receivers.
Our defense played very well taking away their rushing game
Ewers was very accurate in the passing attack
Our running backs executed well and had a lot of yards after contact
I thought Sark coached well making very few mistakes
Not suggesting we played a top ten team but we took care of business doing what we had to do
Im pretty sure we came away from this game with few injuries and a mind set to take us to the next rung on the latter
I wouldn't say that Ewers was "very accurate." He wasn't bad, but he missed some wide (and I do mean wide) open receivers.1st game back so Id cut him a little slack
Sark called off the dogs or it could have been 79-0.
I wouldn't say that Ewers was "very accurate." He wasn't bad, but he missed some wide (and I do mean wide) open receivers.
Missing open receivers is not seeing the field, lacking accuracy would be missing guys you're trying to throw to.By "missing," I meant "threw at and missed," not "didn't see."
Re: accuracy, Ewers made 3-4 throws that were impressive as hell. Throws I simply don't see college QBs make that often.
Last year the Horns lost in embarrassing fashion to almost every B12 team they played, so I'd hope they'd be eager to change that, every single week.
Not to stray too far off topic, but I wonder how I'd like that anymore.I thought you were in northeast Texas
Austin was not a small place when I lived there, but still, it's grown beyond what I recognize in a lot of ways. I always said Austin was just about the biggest size city I was willing to live in. Now there's many more people and much worse traffic.
San Marcos is still tolerable, but even that place has lost the small-town charm it had while I was there.
And you know how the old song goes....applies especially to me.....all my exes live in Texas. I kinda just wanna hang my hat in Tennessee.
But plz just get me out of southeast Texas. I'm done with the mosquitoes, humidity and the annual hurricane watching.
Every game Texas plays is a "trap" game. Kinda like UGA, the other guys want to play their best, and see it as a chance to knock off the big guy and really make a statement.I knew Texas was back when we came back and tied Tech at the end of the 4th Qtr
Texas certainly doesn't have the panache built up yet to expect the other side to lay down and panic. They're gonna get the best shot. If they don't match it early, they give the believers a chance.
How many times last season did I beg Texas to land that 3rd or 4th score body blow that sends the opponent's offense into a panic game plan? Texas just couldn't finish. Either the defense would leak a FG or a TD to keep it manageable, or the offense would post a 3 and out. If Texas is up 21-0 at the end of the 1st quarter, ISU realizes the dream isn't coming true. The players start to press. The game plan picks up a tempo it can't handle. Texas has an easy rest of the game.
Conversely, a 10-7 score, particularly with a turnover or something, keeps the blender-birds giving it their all. They're flush with energy and belief. The game becomes a grind where Texas has to keep from mentally breaking as well.
Yep, it's horrible. Please move from here ASAP. Thank you for your support.
But plz just get me out of southeast Texas. I'm done with the mosquitoes, humidity and the annual hurricane watching.
I thought you were in northeast Texas
Beaumont areanot southeast but youre right you need to get out of that area which Ive always considered to be the armpit of Texas
not southeast but youre right you need to get out of that area which Ive always considered to be the armpit of TexasJanis Joplin had some choice things to say about Houston, and Beaumont, respectively.
What do you mean "not southeast?"it's not Miami, FL
What do you mean "not southeast?"just my opinion but I consider south starts from the Austin or Houston area on down
Janis Joplin had some choice things to say about Houston, and Beaumont, respectively.on a personal note about that
Texas is not a uniformly shaped state so it's difficult to associate certain regions with cardinal directions.The eastern seaboard states mostly have the coastal plains, the piedmont, and the mountains. It works pretty well.
The topography in East Texas is rather nice, imo. Similar to north Louisiana. I much prefer it to the the landscapes of Southeast Texas. There is a definite distinction if you're coming down 69, starting around Woodville. North of there looks like East Texas and south of there looks like Southeast Texas. East Texas is generally taken to be Tyler, Lufkin area, etc.I live 50 miles South of Houston. If it’s not SExTx what would you call it ?
South of Houston and Austin and you're not really "east" in the state anymore. Beaumont is definitely the southeastern point of the state. At any rate, it's the name of the area. Our local news has "all your southeast Texas local news." The radio station weather-break jingles are things like "south-east Texaaaas weeeaa-theeeeeeerrrrr." My clinic routinely refers to Southeast Texas Gastroenterology Group or SETX Urology Associates, and 75% of every other business in the area is SETX this or SETX that. If this isn't southeast Texas, you can't tell them that.
Also, we're right next to SWLA, so it stands to reason we're SETX.
And SETX is kinda ppffffft.
Also, we're right next to SWLA, so it stands to reason we're SETX.
Like Freeport/Matagorda territory?Yeah that's what I said upthread. Lubbock and Amarillo aren't West Texas. West Texas is like, Ozona to El Paso. Lubbock and Amarillo are in North Texas. But then, places like Denton call themselves North Texas, and they're nowhere near Amarillo.
I would personally view that as southeast Texas, though as a proper noun, SETX does not seem to even include Houston, rather it's Beaumont and the Golden Triangle area. All the way down to about Victoria passes geographically as southeast texas for me. Anything past that is south Texas, and then further south is what is referred to simply as The Valley. Like Kingsville and south, it's what the locals call it, as well as the companies I used to work for traveling throughout TX.
ymmv. I'm just going by how places tend to refer to themselves. Never understood why the panhandle calls itself West Texas. Seems like that should be Odessa to El Paso area. Wonder what they call themselves.....haven't spent much time in that area.
I'm guessing Louisiana would vetoI don't know, Houston has a lot going for it. The GDP of Houston alone is probably something like 4x that of the entire state of Louisiana.
Like Freeport/Matagorda territory?Yep. Right by Freeport. I fish matagorda often.
I would personally view that as southeast Texas, though as a proper noun, SETX does not seem to even include Houston, rather it's Beaumont and the Golden Triangle area. All the way down to about Victoria passes geographically as southeast texas for me. Anything past that is south Texas, and then further south is what is referred to simply as The Valley. Like Kingsville and south, it's what the locals call it, as well as the companies I used to work for traveling throughout TX.
ymmv. I'm just going by how places tend to refer to themselves. Never understood why the panhandle calls itself West Texas. Seems like that should be Odessa to El Paso area. Wonder what they call themselves.....haven't spent much time in that area.
I'm curious....how is a geographic center calculated with an irregular shape like Texas? Is it the intersection of the longest east-west line and the longest north-south line, or is it more complicated than that?I'm sure that it's more complicated than that. I can imagine a system where an irregular-shaped entity is divided up into square units and then some number-crunching determines the E-W line that has exactly as many square units north of it as south of it and also does the same thing with a N-S line that puts the same number of square units east and west of it. Where those two lines intersect would be the center.
In Oklahoma, Oklahoma City seems like an obvious center point, but then you've got that handle that stretches across the Texas panhandle that muddies it up.
I like your eternal optimism my friend.Like I said, there's too much recent history to declare "all is well" after two games.
Now that's the spirit!hey its not my job to blow smoke
This week we play the Cowboys at their place
And it's a game we would have lost last year.
When getting to the finish line first is the only criterion, you drive the car a lot differently. It's a violent movement where you push the limit of physics. The tires will only grip to a certain force. Braking hard to throw the weight forward onto the front tires increases that grip force - allowing you to power harder through a turn. Once you're through the apex, you're hard on the throttle to power out. The tires are operating right on the limits of static friction. Your body is constantly eating all these internal forces as the car slams from forward inertia to side inertia to rear inertia.
When someone else is paying for the tires, suspension, engine, and transmission, it's a fun way to drive (albeit painful).
Many race cars, but especially F1 cars, are designed to last only as long as the race itself. They're effectively rebuilt completely, after each use. If a race were ever to run 5 or 7 laps further (at full speeds) than was intended, the majority of the cars would start breaking down and failing to finish. Of course they have rules in place to prevent this from happening.
The most fun was driving on COTA flat out, we were hitting about 140 mph on the back straight. That got a bit scary, you had to keep at it and then hammer the brakes near the end. Of course ABS makes this a lot easier, and the computers would iron out a lot of other mistakes for us. Driving it with all the nannies turned off likely would have meant a lot of grass.
One event we had was a tight gymkhana like affair, for time. The first 200 feet or so required a full throttle acceleration and then hard braking to make a 90° turn (cones). My group did it 3x each, I got slightly better, but was still a laggard. One fellow in our group beat everyone handily.That gymkhana sounds like an autocross. My brother has a Mazda Miata in which he competes in autocross events.
Then they had one of their guys do it, they claimed he'd never done that pattern before or even seen it. He beat our fastest guy handily. Of course, he knew the car well. But he was a "pro" of some ilk, part of their team.
I don't think I could beat his time if I was there every day for weeks.
The most fun was driving on COTA flat out, we were hitting about 140 mph on the back straight. That got a bit scary, you had to keep at it and then hammer the brakes near the end. Of course ABS makes this a lot easier, and the computers would iron out a lot of other mistakes for us. Driving it with all the nannies turned off likely would have meant a lot of grass.
Mustangs and Camaros participate in the same autocrosses that my brother's Miata does. Their greater power does them little to no good on the tight courses.Miatas have a fantastic blend of weight, power, and wheelbase. While other stock cars might launch faster, and some have higher top end, the Mazda Miata puts it together in the "city streets" arena sports (that is, when the track wasn't purpose built for racing with high banked curves, wide straits, etc).
Horns haven't been a great second half team lately, but maybe things are changingthats just wrong
encouragement is ALWAYS welcome
even from Boomers
yup, but the Pokes just scoredTerrible clock management by the Pokes right before halftime. Gundy should be kicking himself.
#23 on the Horn defense had a tough series
I'll kick himI'd join you. He needs a good kick. My oSu-grad stepson thinks so too.
I believe our true freshman QB was unprepared for what happens when a 25 mph N/S wind blasts through a stadium laid out E/W. He saw the field, knew the correct target, but the ball flew like a ping pong ball in a hair dryer. Playing in his 50th game at T Boone Pickens field, Sanders knew where the weird spots were.i've obviously heard more than a few excuses for poor QB play, but that is magnificent!
i've obviously heard more than a few excuses for poor QB play, but that is magnificent!And how !
lets see input from a husker and an aggiewell, the Dawg fan wasn't chipping in
hmmmmm
thanks guys
I had to watch UGA dismantle another top quality SEC foe instead of Texas.Can't play better defense than not allowing any points.
Ewers was off target a fair bit....probably the difference right there.A lot of the penalties were called on the o-line for mostly pre-snap violations.
Defense could stand to sharpen up on the tackling in that one too.
There were something like 15-16 penalties on UT....zero for oSu. Somehow I doubt that was the case in reality.
But weren't the Aggies leaving too?No they left a year later.
That 2010 is well remembered in Aggieland and that team was close to winning the Big 12 save for a loss at oSu.Huskers came in #9 after their only other reg season loss. Possibly Bo's best team.
Huskers came in #9 after their only other reg season loss. Possibly Bo's best team.I remember it well. Good times.
Another cursed loss to the Horns
Garrett Gilbert runs for 71 yards and Taylor Martinez runs for 21
4 penalties for the Horns, 10 for the Huskers, playing in Lincoln
big game next weekCurrent line is Texas by 7
Somebody's gotta do something about this team when they get up big. Keeping a foot on a throat must be a learned art, and Sark needs to figure out how to teach it.One big reason the Horns stoped scoring in the 2nd half was the play calling
Risk mitigation is tough to learn. At Bama, Sark could keep calling running plays on 3rd and 2 when the defense showed 9 in the box. Bama's road graders could simply clear out and get 4.I see that misplayed, after the fact, a lot in CFB. I've seen Smart start running too soon fairly often and put together a bunch of 3aos. On the other hand, the risk of throwing is clear also. Let's say you're up 28-6 on a dangerous team in the third and you stop passing. They score and it's 28-14 and you get another 3ao and they score again and suddenly it's panic time.
Punt, Bama, punt ...Fear the Horns
I see Texas is ranked!!! And has a shot at the CG!!!
Crazy team.
Probably for the best.yep we couldnt beat em so we hired their coach
I can't believe TCU is 8-3 vs. Texas since joining the B12.
and now the old coach can't beat Sonnywell I forgive the Horns for not beating them this year
Where is utee94? Anybody heard from him lately?I thought I told you to watch him
I guess I could reach out to see what's up, but that mofo is the same way with texts. Sometimes I hear right back, other times he just ghosts me.we're a weird bunch
Longhorns, man.
rich & arrogantwell one out of two aint bad
Where is utee94? Anybody heard from him lately?
Been wonderin’ where Marcus run off too? He does this from time to time, being a high powered exec that he is. He’s prolly with Bill Gates on a thinkathon.
Man, for as much promise as Ewers flashed this year, there are certainly times when his freshman shows. Horns won that game in spite of him, not because of him.Ewers was 12 of 16 for 194 yards no interceptions
Bijan is the best back I've seen in the game in several years. His vision is his best trait imo....I haven't seen a back that can so quickly diagnose where to go, maybe ever. Been really fun to watch him in college. Did NOT know he was getting 2 mil a year NIL. That.....is a whole other discussion. sigh....I suppose he's worth it, but man do I not like the state of the game these days.
Ewers was 12 of 16 for 194 yards no interceptions
He had a pretty good game with just one huge error with the fumble
we went to the run cause thats what the defense allowed not to save Ewers
I've watched a few 'horn games. Honestly I wasn't all that impressed with Bijan, although he played good. I'd like to see what he does in the bowl game. Is he back next year?here again Alabama put 8 in the box most of the time which is why we moved the ball in the air
He had 57 yards vs Bama on 21 carries. Not great.
Ewers had a solid day passing but that funble-6 scoop and score was devastating and nearly cost us the game. The coaches went solely to the run after that, and protecting the team from any further Ewers screwups was absolutely part of it. It was the right call, relying on a freshman QB in that situation rather than your upperclassmen-dominated running back rotation, would have been silly. If they'd made the same move against TCU and Oklahoma State those could have been two more wins.This happened with 13 min left is the game
I hope Ewers improves dramatically between now and next year. Otherwise we're in massive trouble at QB because I expect Card to transfer, and Arch Manning will be a true freshman.
This happened with 13 min left is the game
we had the lead and we were able to run on them
I think we would have stuck with the run no matter who was at QB
Yes Ewers will get better
Have you notified Sark that you have decided to keep him for one more year?
No because I haven't decided to keep Sark for one more year. He better blow out the bowl game opponent.ok I stand corrected but we took the lead on the next series and again we were gashing them with the run so why put the ball in the air
And yes it happened with 13 minutes left in the game. We didn't have the lead, we were down 27-24. From that point on, this is what happened:
22 plays
22 rushes
133 yards
14 points
TOP 10:43
Did they play 8 defenders in the box on the last two drives?only on certain plays not every play
Gracias.You get the thick but still fluffyness, from whipping the egg whites to soft peaks separately, and then combining with the other ingredients. Some recipes omit the whites. I consider those to be lesser recipes.
I think I can probably tweak a good recipe as far as flavor, what I don't know anything about is what affects consistency. I like thick eggnog, most of the store-bought stuff is too runny for me.
I have no idea how my comment got on this thread, or why. Oops.
I've noticed this message board occasionally does that. Strange.it usually involves alcohol
it usually involves alcohol
So, how do LH fans view the season so far? Mixed? Pretty decent? Better than expected? Terrible?Considering we are coming off a bad season last year with a green freshman QB and a average OL plus a huge question mark at defense if we win our Bowl Games and go 9 and 4 Id say we had a better then expected season and a very good chance to have an even better team next year
Before the season I believed 8-4 was an appropriate expectation that would show progress and improvement, so overall I'm happy with the season. I'm sure lh320 will be surprised at that statement. :)yes I could take some cheap shots at ya but its the Christmas season so Im holding my fire
As always though, the devil is in the details. The team has improved in some areas, but shown no progress or actual regression in others. I'm hopeful that our freshman QB grows and improves substantially before next season.
The most pleasant surprise for me, has been the improvement in the o-line. They're not world beaters just yet, but even being average, is a significant improvement over the craptacular olines we've trotted out pretty much every single year since 2007.
it's not even Decemberok Mr technical fine
yes I could take some cheap shots at ya but its the Christmas season so Im holding my fireTackling definitely improved, too. It's actually... decent. It's been since, I don't know, 2008 or 2009, since we could say that.
My pleasant surprise has been our defense as far as tackling. We did a much better job over last year.
ok Mr technical fineI meant about Xmas season
we will discuss this tomorrow sheeesh
I meant about Xmas seasonnope its the new me
give him the business
I meant about Xmas seasonHey I got an idea. Why don't you just shut your stupid face?
give him the business
nope its the new me
I will be kind to my longhorn brother
'horns of a featherthe longhorn nation is mighty
the longhorn nation is mightyFearlessF
fear the Horns
They seemed to have won more games than SOME here thought they might.certainly more then you predicted
I like playing in the Sugar Bowl against Georgia. I could be down for that.
We should both go and attend in person-- I'd even offer to be your guide around town so you could actually find some GOOD food and entertainment... ;)
My guess is they also lose one to either USCe/UK/Tenn/Florida to go 11-1, and then Bama to be 11-2, then play someone, maybe Texas, in the Sugar.I was a bit pessimistic, though they could still end up 12-2.
certainly more then you predicted
It was the noted sandbagger, utee94, who predicted they wouldn't win another game a few weeks into the season.
Heh, Dawgs fans (some) are upset that we're only 12-0 with too many close wins ...very few teams win the NC and dont have a few close wins along the way
Sure, but that is reality. Fans don't like reality often as not.Yep. Close wins over inferior teams are worrisome because they seem to indicate that some fundamental weakness has been exposed.
Fans are unhappy with a 37-14 win over Tech, not that it matters. I can see being concerned with closer wins than one would like and thinking perhaps a team isn't all that great, fine.
Heh, Dawgs fans (some) are upset that we're only 12-0 with too many close wins ...I can remember the days when Texas fans complained about having a long string of 10-win seasons.
I can remember the days when Texas fans complained about having a long string of 10-win seasons.
I can remember the days when Texas fans complained about having a long string of 10-win seasons.Yeah, Mark Richt's final two teams finished 10-3 and look what happened to him ...
Horns might get to play USC in the Alamo Bowl.I don't think USC falls that low, probably Cotton? And maybe Washington in Alamo against the Horns and Sark and PK? That would be sort of poetic.
Doesnt the Alamo Bowl have a tie in with the Pac 12?Yep. Big 12 and Pac-12.
Yep. Big 12 and Pac-12.didnt UT play Oregon the year before
OU played Oregon there last year.
Doesnt the Alamo Bowl have a tie in with the Pac 12?Yes, I wasn't saying there were other teams we'd play in the Alamo Bowl. I was referring to other teams we'd play, in other bowl games. For example, one that's been brought up is Notre Dame, in the Cheezit Bowl. I think that's a tougher matchup for us, than Washington would be.
Yes, I wasn't saying there were other teams we'd play in the Alamo Bowl. I was referring to other teams we'd play, in other bowl games. For example, one that's been brought up is Notre Dame, in the Cheezit Bowl. I think that's a tougher matchup for us, than Washington would be.I saw a projection for that awhile back. Saw one for OU vs. Notre Dame in the Cheez-It as well, prior to our 1-3 stretch "run."
Yes Alamo is appropriate for Texas' season. I anticipate several opt-outs, but that'll be true for pretty much everyone not headed to the CFP.Texas will play Washington
Yup it's an interesting matchup, given Sark's and PK's history there.Horns are favored by 3.5
I’ve grown to loathe these meaningless bowl games over the years. I’m hoping as the CFP expands, and fewer people tune into to non-CFP bowl games, they will die a slow death. And with CFP games not being meaningless, fewer players will opt out, making these handful of games exciting.I watch every game and enjoy them a lot
I’ve grown to loathe these meaningless bowl games over the years. I’m hoping as the CFP expands, and fewer people tune into to non-CFP bowl games, they will die a slow death. And with CFP games not being meaningless, fewer players will opt out, making these handful of games exciting.
Any coach will tell you the extra practices are invaluable. Neaux to doing away with bowl games, evening "meaningless" ones.They're all meaningless outside of the ones that impact the NC, which is now limited to only the CFP games.
yup, I'd rather my fav team played in one and played well enough to winWell sure, even though the games are meaningless, I always want to see my team win rather than lose. I mean, in many cases that's next year's team that's out there playing, and you want to have some hope for the future.
the practices and victories add up
They're all meaningless outside of the ones that impact the NC, which is now limited to only the CFP games.
And they always have been.
I think the real problem is that for some reason over the past couple decades, fans have attempted to put way more stock in the outcomes, than the coaches or players ever have.
For most bowls outside of the top ones, ADs actually lose money. But they're part of the TV contract so there's no way to opt out of them.What bowl does aggie play
Plenty of players don't care-- that's why so many are opting out now. That's not a NEW thing, it's just more acceptable now to opt out. Previously those guys didn't want to play, but didn't feel like they had a choice.
Some fans are putting WAY more stock into the outcomes than the players and coaches.
But if you care, that's totally cool. I'm just pointing out to folks like Gigem whose feelings have changed over time, that the bowls themselves haven't really changed. They were created to be exhibitions, and that's what they've always been.
Again, that's true some of the time. I've never seen the LSU player that didn't care about the Sugar Bowl, for example, regardless of whether it was it was not the BCSCG or a playoff game. I don't know many of our fans who don't care about it either. In fact, most every LSU fan I've ever known finds even the lesser bowls exciting and roots for the team to end the year on a high note. Most don't feel LSU's season "ends" with A&M or the SECCG. And I can tell you for sure that fans didn't take it well when LSU didn't even get a bowl in 2020, and not just for the season it meant they had.
I think the real problem is that for some reason over the past couple decades, fans have attempted to put way more stock in the outcomes, than the coaches or players ever have.well, this can be said for ANY game or scrimmage
That's true, but it's disingenuous to say that there's no possible finger on the pulse or idea of what the overall, general feeling is shared by most players. Our guys have wanted to play, for the most part. Even in the case of at least one opt-out I know about, it was strictly a decision not to risk himself prior to the combine or pro-day or whatever. Kid did want to play the game but was advised not to, and probably had other pressures. He's probably not alone.
The WR who had to play QB in the bowl vs. K-State last year famously said when asked about having only 39 scholarship players for the game "This is LSU. If we have 22 we're going to play." I think that's far more typical of the kids in our program. I assume it's the same at most programs, but ymmv. I think there's only a small handful of kids who don't want to get out on the field with their teammates again and do their best.
Tom Osborne is on record as saying a come from behind win in the 1976 Astro-Bluebonnet bowl saved his jobMack Brown is on record saying the only important thing about making a bowl game, is getting the extra practice for next year's team.
so, it was to him and a few others quite important
Yes, this is my point.
I didn't consider the remaining games meaningless
I hope our coaches and players didn't either.
So, about my question. Why aren't all regular-season games also meaningless if your team is out of the running for the CCG?
At the end of the day, of course, there are many more important things in life than even the most important college football game.
Mack Brown is on record saying the only important thing about making a bowl game, is getting the extra practice for next year's team.
Tons of coaches feel that way.
There's a disconnect between fans' objectives, and the coaches' and teams'. And it's been that way for a long, long time.
Bowl games were created to be rewards, meaningless exhibition games. And they still are.
But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching them, or that I don't want my team to win. Of course I do. I just don't place much value on the outcomes.
The game of football was meant to be enjoyed. By the players, and by the fans watching. It's what happens on each play, inside those white lines, that's supposed to provide the entertainment. In some ways, the bowl games are the last remaining expression of that, simply because they ARE meaningless exhibitions.
Sure. I'm not saying it's right or I like it.Regular-season games aren't even that much fun to attend any more. At least not for 68-year-old me they aren't.
Bowls have always been season-ending meaningless exhibitions, as they were created to be. But the increasing professionalism of the college sport is certainly trending in a way that displeases a lot of fans. Game attendance continues its annual decrease as colleges price themselves out of the market, and families are finding it increasingly difficult to bring youngsters along, so new fans aren't being created, the way they were decades ago.
Regular-season games aren't even that much fun to attend any more. At least not for 68-year-old me they aren't.
My esposita and I went to the season opener this year. I wanted to attend Brent Venables' first game as OU's HFC.
It was a 2:30 game on a roasting hot--100-degree-plus--day. Someone who at least claimed to know said later that it reached 120 inside the now-completely-bowled-in stadium. People of all ages were being carted out on gurneys.
Which just set the stage for everything else. Non-stop canned music at ear-splitting volume. Exceeding-pain-threshold volume. Simba-Cam. Stupid championship ring races on the jumbotron. Inane announcements and endless recognition of every sponsor and major donor.
Here's what there wasn't: Programs. Updates of other games. Somehow, between the announcements and the video boards and the incredibly phantasmagorical video ring, they couldn't do updates of other games. The opportunity to discuss the previous play, or to speculate on the next play, with the fans around you.
It wasn't fun. I don't care to go back for more.
I have to say that when I went to the Nebraska game in Lincoln a couple of weeks later, it was much better. The announcements were fewer and farther between. There was less canned music. The volume of the PA system was not ear-splitting. My esposita and I could discuss the game with the Nebraska fans around us. The noise was made by human beings cheering their team.
When I posted this comparison on an OU board, I was told that the lack of all the stuff that ruined the day for me at the OU-UTEP game is what has gone wrong with the Husker program.
I am told that recruits love the "awesome" atmosphere at the games with nonstop ear-splitting noise. Maybe so. But it's not for me.
and then the Sooners proceeded to go 3-6 in conference
When I posted this comparison on an OU board, I was told that the lack of all the stuff that ruined the day for me at the OU-UTEP game is what has gone wrong with the Husker program.
Bunch of trophy-wife soccer moms playing on their cell phones the entire time, gossiping about their Real Housewife lives and utterly ignoring the game. They couldn't tell you anything happening on the field and probably don't care. If you have the audacity to stand up and cheer a bunch of dude-fans I don't recognize yell at you to sit down because you're blocking their view.:):smiley_confused1::93:
and then the Sooners proceeded to go 3-6 in conferenceAmen, brother!
the same as the Huskers
it's about the coaching - not the jumbotron
I watched portions of the game last night and my impression was, bear with me, this is a shocker, the Texas OL is not very good.It's actually better than it was a year ago, believe it or not.
Good point, the fan themselves are changing. Some of it is corporate, but I also think a current "average fan" is now more interested in distractions (including but not limited to cell phones), than an "average fan" was 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.I think I went to my first college football games in 1965. We went to a couple of TU (U. of Tulsa) games that year. Jerry Rhome had been runner-up for the Heisman the year before, and the team had beaten Ole Miss in the Bluebonnet Bowl, so there was some juice around the football program. '65 was another good year, another trip to the Bluebonnet Bowl (a loss to Tennessee) and another Heisman runner-up in Howard Twilley. It's hard to recall what the fans were wearing, but I'm pretty sure that most people were not wearing blue-and-gold attire that they would not wear in a normal business or social environment. I remember that the band--which was small--wore black slacks, gold lame' jackets, and black derby hats. The Tulsa program went downhill later in the decade, and so did our attendance at games. The father of a friend of mine took both of us to the Tulsa-North Texas State game in Denton in his Beech Bonanza in 1967. I don't remember much about that game except that Tulsa got drilled.
But I do sometimes wonder how loud/crazy fans were, back in the 40s/50s/60s? The vintage pictures I see show men dressed in suits and hats, women dressed in dresses and finery. Were they all that loud and obnoxious? Were they reserved and refined?
Is our view of what a "fan" should be, limited by our experience, which is largely in the 70s-thru-present?
Thanks for the details and perspective.It's hard to compare what I experienced at 18 to what I now experience at 68. Everything is different, not the least my expectations, and memories are imperfect.
It's interesting to me how the sport, and the spectacle, has changed over the years.
You get coal in your stocking this year or something?Nope just thought Id offer some good ol Texas hospitality
It's not football but RIP Coach Gus, who passed away today.I probably watched 40 or more Cliff Coached games
https://www.statesman.com/story/sports/college/2023/01/02/legendary-longhorn-baseball-coach-cliff-gustafson-dies-at-91/69771103007/
is this 2022 or 2023Final AP Poll for the 2022/3 season.
I would have dropped TCU to 3rd or 4th.I guess the voters respected the fact that TCU had to play an extra game, and that they beat Michigan fair and square between the white lines. I'm okay with the ranking, it's not like anything other than #1 really matters anyway.
I guess the voters respected the fact that TCU had to play an extra game, and that they beat Michigan fair and square between the white lines. I'm okay with the ranking, it's not like anything other than #1 really matters anyway.There's no objectively right or wrong answer, but here's my thinking.
The plaque for alternates is down in the ladies' room. :)
Maybe for the fans there is.
I enjoyed when LSU finished in the top 5 several years in a row, I know many other fans did too. I recall many Longhorn acquaintances in Austin who were proud of the fact Texas had finished with X consecutive 10-win seasons.
Things like that probably don't matter to cfb fans in general, but they may well matter to a particular team's fans.
I think Ohio State was pretty good (duh).Thread titles are mostly дезинформация (dezinformatsiya).
But this thread is about Texas, sort of ...
I think Ohio State was pretty good (duh).Michigan and TCU were pretty good, too.
But this thread is about Texas, sort of ...
Steve Sarkisian and the Texas Longhorns are adding a prominent ex-Big Ten coach to their football coaching staff.Hmmm, I wonder what's @847badgerfan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5) 's take on this?
Paul Chryst, a former head football coach at the University of Wisconsin, is joining the Texas football program, according to multiple reports.
Chryst is expected to serve as an offensive analyst to Sarkisian and Co.
I idly wonder if you play a "weak schedule" with a powerful OL if they develop bad habits, because it doesn't matter, until you face an elite DL later.My feeling is this strategy harmed the likes of Tech and Baylor in the past. They would book impossibly easy OOC opponents. Then, they'd never be able to accurately diagnose a problem until league play started. Then, it was far too late to troubleshoot.
I idly wonder if you play a "weak schedule" with a powerful OL if they develop bad habits, because it doesn't matter, until you face an elite DL later.depends on coaching
https://twitter.com/HornSports/status/1694432267685269713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1694432267685269713%7Ctwgr%5E0ce04759d533743d4b4aaa424b3512d521dd06cb%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FHornSports%2Fstatus%2F1694432267685269713%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc255Etfw257Ctwcamp255Etweetembed257Ctwterm255E1694432267685269713257Ctwgr255E3d8a9be33959199812c8d46952ecad2ab995b97a257Ctwcon255Es1_26ref_url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FHornSports%2Fstatus%2F1694432267685269713cant read it it wont open
Texas could well be 15-0 this season ...I think they will drop a few games but will be much improved
I think they will drop a few games but will be much improved
The WR group checks all the boxes. Multiple home run threats, possession receivers, everything. The RB group has not-as-good-as-Bijan talent, but each one would be the unquestioned starter on any other Big 12 team. JT Sanders changes defenses just by being on the field.
So now we look at Quinn and the OL.
I think its obvious that Ewers has all the gifts. As a high schooler, he could just use those gifts. That's not enough to win games at Texas, but Sark gave him all the refinements needed to be the game changer. We saw it before he was hurt. After he returned from injury, he spent too many games playing like a talented high schooler rather than remembering his coaching. We're told he's fully steeped in the Sark wisdom. I believe he is, but show me.
I want to believe that I'm looking at the best OL in America. They're picked and trained by Kyle Flood. This should be the OL that just resets the DL backwards 3 yards. No one knows how good an OL is, though, until they're pounded on by an angry defense. By then, it's too late to fix. How good is this OL really?
Does the Texas defense have a Brian Orakpo level pass rusher? Every level of the defense has athletic playmakers that can stifle an opponent, but not if the QB has all day - as Texas fans have seen too often. Unlike the offense, I don't have any pass rushing candidates I can talk up using evidence. Right now, this is my biggest concern. I have to just hope one arrives.
Obviously and rightly, Alabama will be favored. Texas will be the favorite in every other game. They have the fewest question marks entering the season. I expect this to be an exceptional team. Will they be legendary?
A dominant OL makes all the coaches look like geniuses.made Tom Osborne and a boat load of average and crappy QBs look genius
Its amazing how fast some folks play the race cardI'm not sure what this is referring to?
I'm not sure what this is referring to?sorry I thought you had seen this
Oh, hadn't seen any of that. Much ado about nothing.thats also the way I see it
Mrs. DeTiger asked me the other day how Texas was supposed to look. Instead of saying "Woman, I don't even know how my team is supposed to look, what makes you think I have any idea about the Longhorns?" I said, "Yes, of course I have a good idea, but let me check to be sure."seasoned offensive front line returning qb looked good in the spring game
Help me look like a genius.
How are the Horns supposed to look this year?
I'll tell her "It's complicated."Well I've got a buddy who says 13-0 and playoff bound, so you COULD tell her that...
I was surprised last years game was so close.Game is in Tuscaloosa.
It kinda seems that although Bama is very good, maybe they aren't quite as good as they were. Remind me, where is the game at?
I wouldn't mind seeing Texas win, about time for Bama to stack some L's. We'll get our chance too this year, at Kyle.
Texas could well be 15-0 this season ...Just sayin' ....
I read a description that said Texas was like Neo realizing what he really is. I think that's accurate.Man I love this characterization. I sure hope it's right!
Maybe Texas and OU will rethink joining a crappy conference.are you reacting to the sec short
Maybe Texas and OU will rethink joining a crappy conference.Ha!
Good game, Texas! One of the few times I've rooted for the 'Horns. This season I would love for the Horns and Sooners to play for the B12 championship just to make sure the final B12 trophy leaves with one of us.Im with you
The weirdest thing to me is knowing how in a short while, it won't be weird.
I had such a hard time imagining A&M as an SEC team because I was used to them playing Texas schools in the SWC days, and "middle-America" teams in the Big 12 days (a great long-standing ooc rivalry with LSU notwithstanding). It felt so werid to watch them play Florida that first conference opener, and then move to their annual slate of Ole Miss, Auburn, etc.
Fast forward just a few seasons and it felt normal, natural, and like it had always been that way. Which is what's gonna happen with OU and UT. I've already gotten used to not seeing OU/Neb anymore, and now OU's mental footprint in my mind is going to completely shift, as will Texas'.
It will be nice to get the UT/A&M game back. My hope is A&M will quit projecting the loss of their last girlfriend onto us, because it's damn weird when we never dated them in the first place.
My further hope is we go to the 9-game conference schedule with the 4-team perma-rival models I've seen.
For me though, I'm happy we'll have Texas A&M and Arkansas back on the schedule, while also maintaining the annual game against OU. And then the thought of sprinkling in some games against LSU, Georgia, Florida, and Alabama, makes for a lot of fun. I'm just going to have to get to the point where I can accept all of that at face value. But it's going to take a while, no doubt.
UGA has had much less success with them. They are a tough out in T town.As long as the SEC sticks to its 8-game schedule and its FCS cupcake weekend, then yes the Horns will face more ranked teams. It's a product of the way the SEC has gamed the system for two decades now.
I think Texas will be facing more "ranked teams" going forward, and that's important of course ....:)
I think they will go to 9 when the money is right. UGA has some OOC slates down the road that still are formidable even without UT/OU.I agree with you there. The fact that Texas-Alabama was the highest rated game on ESPN in almost ten years, tells them all they need to know about the increased value of enabling more marquee matchups. With all of the helmets and semi-helmets the SEC will have once Texas and OU join, they can easily fill 4-5 network slots per weekend with top-draw matchups, especially if the SEC moves to 9 conference games.
4th & 3 at ALA 35Yup, Texas drew 'em offsides and that's what ended the game.
(2:09 - 4th) Alabama Penalty, Defensive Offside (Trezmen Marshall) to the ALA 30 for a 1ST down
I still need to know if those rodeo-style holds will be the expected norm in the SEC, or if that's only for Alabama's benefit?Heh, the B12 has always allowed Tech and OU to get away with them too, so nothing new there.
Heh, the B12 has always allowed Tech and OU to get away with them too, so nothing new there.I remember that play and his effort was amazing
I did love it when on one of our sacks of the Alabama QB, the Texas defender who ultimately made the play was held badly, wrestled to the ground (of course no call), but then dragged himself back up partially off the ground, lunged at the QB, and nailed him. Talk about max effort, it was truly an amazing study in sheer force of will.
I remember that play and his effort was amazingI was trying to see if someone had captured video of just that play somewhere online but can't find it. Tomorrow I think I'll have time to watch the whole game again, and maybe I'll screen-capture once I find out when it happened.
I was trying to see if someone had captured video of just that play somewhere online but can't find it. Tomorrow I think I'll have time to watch the whole game again, and maybe I'll screen-capture once I find out when it happened.I also have it saved but dont know how to do all that fancy stuff
I never understood the infatuation that some folks had with the PAC-12. I guess LA and SF and Seattle are nice travel destinations, but the truth is that the vast majority of fans don't travel to away games. And when I DO travel, it's always to games that are closer, in Houston or Dallas or Waco or even Lubbock. I don't go to Ames or Manhattan or Lawrence and I wouldn't be going to LA or SF or Seattle.
And as for on-field level of play, the B12 has long been superior to the PAC. USC is the only helmet in that conference and therefore the only team I'd ever feel excited about playing, but we accomplished that anyway by scheduling a home-and-home with them.
Anyway, just my $0.02 on the idea of the PAC-16. I'm glad it never happened.
I still need to know if those rodeo-style holds will be the expected norm in the SEC, or if that's only for Alabama's benefit?
I have to think, nothing like this has ever happened to them, at least not in their own stadium. That is just a crushing drive.
Pretty sure we're talking about:That may be the play utee refers to
https://twitter.com/HookemHeadlines/status/1700692170657710482
Gbenda was cut by a RB on that play. That's how a RB is taught to take on a blitzing LB (which beats getting drilled into the turf - the RB's other option).exactly
The thing that makes your heart swell here is the speed with which he gets back to his feet to finish the tackle!
Gbenda was cut by a RB on that play. That's how a RB is taught to take on a blitzing LB (which beats getting drilled into the turf - the RB's other option).Yeah in my memory I was conflating those two plays. Both were pretty awesome though.
The thing that makes your heart swell here is the speed with which he gets back to his feet to finish the tackle!
Dangerous pattern developing where the offense no-shows for the first three quarters. That's not gonna pass muster for the entire season. Gotta get a LOT crisper in the first half.last year we could not finish but played lights out in the 1st half
Obviously OU & Texas will expect to get screwed over in conference games but noncon isn't looking much better. In the Tulsa game they had to have huddle after huddle just to call simple things like false start, what down, ball spot, etc. We drew one of the 4 new Big 12 officials as referee.
Texas had a shockingly slow start. Like a 158 total yards after 3 quarters. Still, it is early in the season and they are undefeated. That is what counts.
This wasn't unexpected, but last week after seeing SEC refs actually be competent and call a relatively even game, it stands out in stark relief.
Yep. You guys got the trench ponies to hang with anyone and the skill players to take over at any time. You are in a really good spot at this point of the season.Isn't that the way of things?
Meanwhile OU's next game is at Cincinatti who just lost to Miami of Ohio. Now watch those guys come out like world beaters.
....he said, uttering the words for the first time in the universe's history.
When Quinn was celebrating, he sort of, almost, spiked the ball in the end-zone. I think the ref was trying to tell him not to force his hand into unsportsmanlike.When's the last time you saw anyone draw unsportsmanlike for spiking the ball in college? I haven't seen it in years. And he more like just sort of dropped it. It looks to me like the ref got upset that Quinn didn't politely hand him the ball, and then when he saw Quinn celebrating with teammates toward a large group of Texas fans, he got his panties in a twist and decided to teach that young whippersnapper a lesson for daring to disobey his almighty rule.
The "how to spot the ball" thing was just amateur hour. I don't think Sark wanted it reviewed. I think he was trying to point out the obvious error so they didn't look stupid (and cost Texas 4 yards and a sack). The near side line judge got taken out on the play, but I gotta believe more than one official can spot a ball.
It took the officials 5 minutes to come to that conclusion. Meanwhile the LHN never referenced it. They lauded Wyoming coach Craig Bohls for the entire time.
Craig Bohl doesn't suckcorrected it for you
I haven't seen a college player spike the ball in the end zone in a long time
I haven't either. Because they'd be flagged for it, no question.I've seen it happen in recent years, no flags. All kinds of celebrations are occurring these days, with no flags.
In 2009 our RB was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct at Georgia for raising his arm halfway and pointing an index finger at the sky, evidently thanking God for scoring a touchdown. SEC refs do not allow blatant disrespect for decorum like that.
I've seen it happen in recent years, no flags. All kinds of celebrations are occurring these days, with no flags.
And 2009 was a long, long time ago my friend. It's so very long ago, that it's "back when Texas was good at football" long ago.
2021 SEC CCG, Jameson Williams premeditated "proposal to the goalpost" touchdown celebration, no flags:well, this is Bama and Saban runs the conference
"Karate Kid" aka "Crimson Crane" premeditated touchdown celebrations, no flags:
Alabama "guitar handshake" premeditated touchdown celebration, no flags:
well, this is Bama and Saban runs the conferenceSaban might not even be at Alabama when Texas joins next year.
Texas won't be in charge in the SEC SEC SEC
Oh, so you've found more evidence that the zebras handle things differently for the Gumps? Cool.Those were just the first three easy examples that turned up on simple google search, but if they're only playing loose with the rules for Alabama and not for anyone else in the SEC, I'll have to take your word for it. You certainly watch WAY more SEC football than I do. :)
how about "horns down" in the SEC?as a matter of fact.......
has this been ruled on and decided
the Aggies want to know
Last night I saw Ewer's "spike" on YouTube.Yeah it's in the video I linked a page or two back. He throws the ball to the ground, for sure. I wouldn't call it a "spike" but who knows what a ref is going to "see."
I'll tell you what I "see" (or remember....maybe inaccurately).
Last year, Texas vs. Okie St., UT draws something like 14 penalties to OSU's......0.
I mean, I believe a team can have an undisciplined day at the same time another team is dialed in and plays a clean game, but c'mon.
If you're gonna be corrupt, you either need to do it Illinois-style, where you're really clever and underhanded about it, or you need to do it Louisiana-style, where you turn it into entertainment and make people root for your corruption. You can't just be like "Hey Texas, lolz at your schedule and bad calls."
15-0 is still possible.I see your jinx and counter:
Baylor doesn't give UT any trouble. RRR is shaping up to be a good one.which is as it should be
This weekend's Texas-Kansas game features the nation's only undefeated vs undefeated, ranked vs ranked matchup.Horns favored by 17
I sure hope we don't poop the bed in front of the big national audience.
We're DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDD!
I reject all of your jinx energy.aggies gonna aggie
Texas is DOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD
Don't have Coach Prime on the sched?Nope the Cheater Buffs are not B12 yet.
A thing I have learned, an ELITE QB can carve up even very good defenses at times.
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Any QB, elite or not, needs an oline that provides plenty of time, otherwise no carving will ever occur.I watched Joe Burrow carve up UGA's defense under a great deal of pressure, and then Bryce Young did the same thing, and then that OSU QB did the same thing, all of them being pressured on nearly every pass play. Burrow was ridiculous.
I watched Joe Burrow carve up UGA's defense under a great deal of pressure, and then Bryce Young did the same thing, and then that OSU QB did the same thing, all of them being pressured on nearly every pass play. Burrow was ridiculous.Maybe your secondary just sucks against decent passing teams?
FSU has only beaten one team that's still ranked, same as Ohio State and Texas.Correct. Some teams in the Top Ten still have not played much of anybody. Texas looks really good at this point in the season, deservedly in the top 10, as opposed to somebody like say, Georgia or Michigan who has not played any games of note.
But I don't think Gigem was trying to imply that Texas was the ONLY team that has played well against good competition, simply that some of the top teams that we think are good currently, we really don't know, because they haven't played much of anyone yet.
Anyway I think Texas looks improved over the last several years, and most importantly improved in key areas that have been consistent team deficiencies for years (or decades). That's what's most important to me. It's good to see, and it's been a long time coming. I hope the trend continues.
sadWell OU is always our biggest game no matter the year, and it's always neutral, but yeah... Kansas being a "marquee" B12 brand is... interesting.
no wonder the jump to the SEC
that's what you get when you water down the big 12I wonder when the last time was Kansas starts the season 4 and 0
TCU, Kansas, Okie St. are nothing to be proud of
I was just counting up TX-OU games I've attended, and with Saturday's game it'll be 34 total, including 31 of the last 34. The other 3 were games attended with my parents and siblings, scattered throughout my childhood.youre a very lucky guy Im envious
This weekend is gonna be a lot of fun. It'll be the biggest TX-OU game since 2008 probably. Sure hoping for a win.
Nice to see the Horns handle business. This team might be pretty good.
Nice to see the Horns handle business.
KU's backup QB isn't exactly an inexperienced hack. He's played plenty of meaningful football. Really, he was enough of a curveball from what Texas prepared for that it took a series or two to get the defense adjusted. He had some bad luck with receivers dropping passes, but the ultimate good luck when his fumble bounced perfectly into a trailing RB's arms.
The ball is still pointy, bounces funny, and is handled by 18-22 year old males. Nothing is ever certain. However, the lines are professional level, and just when you think you've exhausted the starters, the backups come in an are just as skilled. Teams that come in and give it all they have hang with Texas for a quarter or so. When the adrenaline wears off, reality comes calling quickly.
Mine was in English. And what it actually said was:Didnt know Brandon was a Horns fan
"It's 1:18 PM and ou still sucks"
^^^^ btw, I bear no ill will toward the Sooners. I have merely been informed by many friends in Austin that Oklahoma's proper full name on the charter is OUSux.It's funny because it's true!
Were I married to a lovely Longhorn fan I'd be for them too.
As it is, I have French trophy wife, so I probably should root for Notre Dame, as if ....
Were I married to a lovely Longhorn fan I'd be for them too.
As it is, I have French trophy wife, so I probably should root for Notre Dame, as if ....
Was there ever some advantage to those long horns?Nobody I know raises them for beef. I've seen a few here or there, but mostly for show. My understanding is that they were very hardy animals, preferred for their tolerance to some parts of Texas climate (rough brush country).
I would have guessed the hardiness could be bred up while breeding the horn length down.breed your own horn length down buster leave ours alone
3 turnovers didnt help
I wonder how much a team can really push TOs versus random events. I.e., a team could have a lot early and then not many late in a season and regress to the mean, although having a lot early doesn't mean you're likely to have fewer later.The first INT was a result of Ewers throwing into obvious triple coverage. That's a throw that never should have been made.
Not much else to say about this one anymore.
So then I found out from this fella a few things I didn't know. According to him, Texas was dead last in allowing explosive plays on passing downs (12 passes of 30+ yards on passing downs coming in). He didn't clarify what "dead last" meant....in the conference? The power 5? The nation? Still unclear on that part. In any case, that's not anything I had noticed or that jumped out at me. He noted Gabriel had heavy success against quarters and cover 1, which are what UT mostly plays. On the other side, he said Ewers had been terrible against cover 1, cover 2, and cover 3, but very good against quarters, but that OU plays cover 1,2,3 61% of the time. Now, with UT's wide receivers you'd think they'd welcome man coverage, but you do have to be a very accurate quarterback against man, and if Ewers hadn't been, A) I was missing it, B) that's useful info.I was looking at Texas secondary to be our best chance for success but the OL would have to keep Gabriel upright long enough to exploit it. I was surprised our OL did as well as they did (I expected them to get eaten alive). I was also surprised Gabriel ran as much as he did.
I was looking at Texas secondary to be our best chance for success but the OL would have to keep Gabriel upright long enough to exploit it. I was surprised our OL did as well as they did (I expected them to get eaten alive). I was also surprised Gabriel ran as much as he did.
On defense, Venables makes it very difficult for QB's to read coverage and Ewers struggled to identify coverage, pressure, etc in the first half but had it figured out in the second half and had that unreal 19 straight completions. Surprising to me, OU blitzed less than usual. Still they got pressure on 40% of Ewer's dropbacks and the 5 sacks were impressive.
In a very weird coincidence, OU's last drill in every Wednesday practice is for the offense to try to go 75 yards in 1:15.
Just spitballing from memory and some quick reference numbers from ESPN, three things I'd want to see Texas clean up in order to beat the Sooners are 1) limit the sacks, 2) don't lose the TO battle, 3) do better at closing down rush lanes for Gabriel.
Can they do those things? My guess is we'll find out in the CG. Looked like two of the best teams in the country to me. If they stay focused and find a way to win the inevitable letdown game--wherever it may occur--I'm not sure who left on their schedules can beat them.
If this OU team makes the playoffs, right now I think they're better prepared to match up with the other big boys than some of the OU participants of the recent past.
Lots of good heavyweight fights left to see, probably a UT/OU rematch, OSU/Mich, probably Bama/UGA, heck....Louisville might even be enough to give FSU a fight in the ACC CG. And maybe the best part, the PAC is about to start cannibalizing itself, methinks, in what should be a series of entertaining games.
I mean, that's a long list of things Texas "needs" to do in order to beat OU. But Texas was ahead with a minute to go. In reality, all Texas needed to do to win on Saturday, was probably turnover the ball one fewer times.
If Texas cleaned up ALL the things you're talking about, then you're looking at a 2-3 score Texas victory. Which of course I'm all for.
Now it seems the last time we lined up under center, we were fortunate to avoid disaster when the snap went completely out of Ewers's control. An alert RB saved the day.
Modulo that, and knowing our starting center was hurt, I'm wondering if our two DTs lined up as blockers would have been better used running that stupid "tush push" play. Have Savion Red take the snap under center, and just let Barryn Sorrell and T'Vondre Sweat stuff the whole business into the endzone?
FTR: I think that play should be somehow written out of the rules. It isn't really stoppable.
Now it seems the last time we lined up under center, we were fortunate to avoid disaster when the snap went completely out of Ewers's control. An alert RB saved the day.
Modulo that, and knowing our starting center was hurt, I'm wondering if our two DTs lined up as blockers would have been better used running that stupid "tush push" play. Have Savion Red take the snap under center, and just let Barryn Sorrell and T'Vondre Sweat stuff the whole business into the endzone?
FTR: I think that play should be somehow written out of the rules. It isn't really stoppable.
Our self-inflicted head wounds just killed our chances. OU played a great game, probably the best possible game they could. Texas didn't.OU's special teams played terrible. Punt blocked for a TD. Fell for a fake punt that enabled an apparent 3-and-out to turn into a TD drive. Messed up its own trick play on a return that otherwise went for good yardage.
I like our chances to get a rematch and if so I really like our chances to WIN that rematch.
Dylan Gabriel has been balling out all season and I admit I slept on him. Say what you will about their schedule, but his numbers vs. Texas were only out of whack to the down side. As you might expect, UT held him a little below his average.His rushing totals were far above what he's done before, and accounted for really the only rushing of significance that occurred for OU. Sure the Texas defense let it happen, but...
That is to say, I'm not convinced that he's not capable of having that kind of game again. UT needs to close down those running lanes. And Ewers needs to wake up during the first half.
Could he do it again against Texas? I'd put money on "No freaking way."
QBs scrambling for over 100 yards is common, even though this one has never done it before? It's not an extraordinary event, sort of a once in a career performance for this guy.... even though he's never done it before?I don't know about Gabriel's play at UCF.
Y'all are killing me. Just stop! :86:
Arkansas St 73-0
SMU 28-11
Tulsa 66-17
Cincinnati 20-6
Iowa State 50-20
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not much need to endanger the QB or even use the QB run game
Dylan Gabriel has been balling out all season and I admit I slept on him...
Well the Texas game was the first and only time he went for more than forty-something yards. We'll see how it works out for him all season long.It was no secret that he could run if necessary. He had scored 4 rushing TDs in the first 5 games.
While we're at it, how 'bout a quick question on what the heck happened to LSU's Defense?!?!Bo Pelini left
It was no secret that he could run if necessary. He had scored 4 rushing TDs in the first 5 games.
The crazy Houston-West Virginia game last night? The one that ended in a TRUE Hail Mary!
While we're at it, how 'bout a quick question on what the heck happened to LSU's Defense?!?!
110th in scoring defense averaging 32 pts/game
122nd in total defense allowing 445 yds/game
121st in passing yards allowing 285 yds/game
93rd in rushing defense allowing 160 yds/game
LSU recruiting hasn’t fallen off; the NFL talent is presumably there. How are they so disorganized? And the swiftness of the dropoff is equally surprising. It’s such a given LSU fields the most effective defenses season after season should I be warned before checking what TigerDroppings thinks of Brian Kelly and Matt House?
It's always easier for a fan, after a close loss, to see the mistakes that his own team made than to see the mistakes that the other team made.And it's always easier for a fan, after a win, to gloss over the mistakes that the other team made, that handed his team the victory.
And it's always easier for a fan, after a win, to gloss over the mistakes that the other team made, that handed his team the victory.That's probably also true, in general.
Etc.
We just need to take care of business and go on down the road
The Horns won that game 41 to 11I was at that game. Fortunately for me, I had enough Longhorn Foundation clout at the time, that I was able to buy tickets in the standard visitor allotment, which were situated in the actual stadium, not a temporary setup. But I walked by those bleachers on the way in and just shook my head.
Heck it'll liven up the SEC board because right now the only folks that post there are you, CD, OAM, and Gigem. With an occasional post from drew or one of the other Vols.
I'll visit the Porch with or w/o y'allpick up your empties
Anyway...Fits right in with my perceptions of the U of H.
Horns have to play Houston this weekend, AT Houston. This was likely a barb aimed directly at the Texas administration, who have refused to play Houston in any major sport, ever since the event called "Bleachergate."
Bleachergate occurred in 2001, when Texas was scheduled to play an away game at Houston. This was the first time the Horns had agreed to play them after the dissolution of the SWC 6 years earlier. UT asked if Houston would be willing to move the game to the Astrodome because it accommodated more spectators, and offered a million dollars to do so. UH declined because they wanted to host the game in their own stadium and maintain some sort of homefield advantage, which is totally understandable. But they did agree to add some additional temporary bleachers in the endzone to serve a larger crowd, and they sold those tickets to Texas fans.
A day or two before the game, inspectors took a look at those temporary bleachers, and immediately condemned them. They had been hastily and sloppily assembled, and were deemed unsafe for occupation. The day before the game, Texas fans were notified of this, but were not offered a refund on the tickets they'd already purchased. Instead, UH offered to let them all watch the game on the video screens in their basketball arena.
I guess some Texas fans did that, I don't know, but the Texas athletic department and adminsitration were furious, and from that day forward absolutely refused to schedule Houston in any major sport, despite numerous advances and requests over the years.
So when it was announced that Houston and Texas would be overlapping in the B12 for a year, many Texas fans suspected that not only would Houston be on our schedule, but it would be a home game for the Coogs. And... here we are.
For reference, here are pictures of the bleachers that were condemned, despite UH officials claiming they were just fine and that Texas officials were complaining about nothing:
(https://i.imgur.com/K7kG64r.png)
[img width=500 height=383.991]https://i.imgur.com/VmlD8i4.jpg[/img]
And the sections that sat empty that night:
(https://i.imgur.com/mXd1Beh.png)
Anyway...
Horns have to play Houston this weekend, AT Houston. This was likely a barb aimed directly at the Texas administration, who have refused to play Houston in any major sport, ever since the event called "Bleachergate."
UH declined because they wanted to host the game in their own stadium and maintain some sort of homefield advantage, which is totally understandable.
It's always easier for a fan, after a close loss, to see the mistakes that his own team made than to see the mistakes that the other team made.
Utee94: And it's always easier for a fan, after a win, to gloss over the mistakes that the other team made, that handed his team the victory.
Etc.
People have suggested we move Arkansas home games to Shreveport or Monroe, similar to how Arkansas used to play their home games with us in Little Rock, citing some of the same reasons. I can't see how that makes any sense whatsoever.Arkansas traded us off every other time. So for example in 1983 we played in Little Rock, in 1985 we played in FayetteNam, 1987 Little Rock, etc.
The Texas situation may be very different.
I'm "N"
S'why y'all need a neutral observer to smack you around.
I volunteer Fearless, but if he declines, I'm willing and able.
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Is Oklahoma getting the same treatment?Not sure.
Is Oklahoma getting the same treatment?Nope, OU got a favorable shake IMO.
Well that game was too close for comfort. I only caught some of it since I was out at the race track all weekend.U.S. Grand Prix, wasn't it?
Not sure about Ewers status, we might find out more in the PC at 11 AM today.
Air Raid teams like Houston live with the embarrassing defeats to the Ball States of the universe in order to maintain a hope to beat the Texas and OUs of the universe. Once Houston's QB realized that the only tackling in the backfield was going to be done by his own OL, he settled in nicely.
But seriously, Texas knows the only way to handle these teams is to keep scoring. The wasted possessions with ill timed A gap runs stopped a lot of drives. Houston putting up 24 with a silly passing display only draws a chuckle if we've got 45 on the board.
I wonder if Yormark gives a pep talk to each team the week before it plays OU or Texas.He had a really bad weekend with Texas and OU managing to squeak out wins over New B12 teams. I feel so sorry for him.
Anyway...
Horns have to play Houston this weekend, AT Houston. This was likely a barb aimed directly at the Texas administration, who have refused to play Houston in any major sport, ever since the event called "Bleachergate."
Bleachergate occurred in 2001, when Texas was scheduled to play an away game at Houston...But they did agree to add some additional temporary bleachers in the endzone to serve a larger crowd, and they sold those tickets to Texas fans.
boy howdy
Is Oklahoma getting the same treatment?We don't have an equivalent to Houston, but we sure seem to be getting a lot of early kickoffs.
Oh you ought to know. Only bigger grudge-holding ahole out there, is Dr. Tom himself.Oh what's the back-story here? I didn't realize there was some long simmering feud with Tom Osborne and ???
Oh what's the back-story here? I didn't realize there was some long simmering feud with Tom Osborne and ???Tom Osborne and Texas is the story there.
11 AM is Fox's premier timeslot and has long been considered the "national" timeslot for ABC/ESPN. OU is getting the 11 AM games because OU has been the best team in the B12 for over two decades.I know that that is the case with Fox. I'm not sure about ABC/ESPN.
Tom Osborne and Texas is the story there.I was teaching at West Point when the Big 12 was formed, and I wasn't really paying attention to that formation. What I think I know about it is what I've picked up since retiring from the Army in 1999 and moving back to Oklahoma. I've thought that the seven other Big 8 schools--including OU--voted against Nebraska on every issue because they were tired of getting beaten every year, and that OU was happy to see the OU-NU series cut in half for the same reason. As far as the partial qualifiers, I've always understood that it was Texas who was most insistent about limiting that practice. In other words, 11 programs had a variety of motives to make life harder for Nebraska, the dominant program in college football at the time, and they acted on those motives.
He always hated Texas, blamed UT for ending Nebraska's dynasty by ending Nebraska's capability to recruit non-qualifiers and limiting their capability to recruit partial qualifiers, despite the fact that the B12 vote on that subject went against NU 11-1. He blamed Texas for everything he didn't like, despite most of those votes going against him 11-1. And then the actual football W/L record on the field, going 1-9 against Texas in B12 play, just sent him off the deep end.
Hatred of Texas was his rallying cry to rile up the Husker masses and make the move to the B1G. And he never stopped shit-talking all the way out, crying to the press about mean old greedy Texas, even though his school was clearly making a move for more money while mean old Texas was staying in the B12 and making less.
He's a bitter spiteful little shiteater and although I love my Husker friends like Fearless, I'm glad that Tom Osborne has seen such football catastrophe in the B1G. Couldn't happen to a more deserving small-minded prick.
ECFGs will have their retribution, every single time.
Yup. And few folks could hold a grudge like DeLoss.
I was teaching at West Point when the Big 12 was formed, and I wasn't really paying attention to that formation. What I think I know about it is what I've picked up since retiring from the Army in 1999 and moving back to Oklahoma. I've thought that the seven other Big 8 schools--including OU--voted against Nebraska on every issue because they were tired of getting beaten every year, and that OU was happy to see the OU-NU series cut in half for the same reason. As far as the partial qualifiers, I've always understood that it was Texas who was most insistent about limiting that practice. In other words, 11 programs had a variety of motives to make life harder for Nebraska, the dominant program in college football at the time, and they acted on those motives.
The Nebraska head coach/ass't A.D. being upset would seem to be a normal reaction to that. I can't speak to the "bitter spiteful little shiteater" part. My only gripe about Dr. Tom concerned the retention of Lawrence Phillips on the team.
Did the Big Ten allow partial qualifiersNope
Strangely, I'm more concerned with the health JT Sanders, Jake Majors, and Ryan Watts than I am with Maalik Murphy.
It's not like he's some duffer we're forced to use. He was a highly rated pocket passer a lot of teams fought over. He's been in the program for two years.
It's very likely, without the history, he'll just run the offense the way Sark wants. We've seen him throw fastballs, but I understand he can change speeds (a) when needed and (b) when the adrenaline calms down. He should throw the ball on time and on schedule without checking 3 times to make sure he's correct.
I did notice that the OL seemed to find another gear once Quinn went out. I know they were working against a tired defense, but it was gratifying to see.
The Nebraska head coach/ass't A.D. being upset would seem to be a normal reaction to that. I can't speak to the "bitter spiteful little shiteater" part. My only gripe about Dr. Tom concerned the retention of Lawrence Phillips on the team.yup
yupRight. I'm stating exactly that.
Right. I'm stating exactly that.I don't remember much of the trash-talking. I'm not saying that it didn't happen. Maybe I wasn't paying close attention because he wasn't talking about my school.
He was upset from things that happened 15 years earlier, and trash-talked Texas all the way out the door.
What part of "holding a grudge" do you folks not understand?
I don't remember much of the trash-talking. I'm not saying that it didn't happen. Maybe I wasn't paying close attention because he wasn't talking about my school.Well, yeah, of course. I'm not surprised you wouldn't remember, why would you?MaybeMy memory is fallible.
Re the grudge, who's holding it?
This oughta do it.I just forwarded this video to Sark, hopefully it'll pay off!
I mean, some of BYU's holds were more blatant that this, but this should be a good primer to get the DL started.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fITANAywSS8
Yup the B12 ref fuckery continues.This play did draw a flag. I was excited, because of the dead obvious holding in the end zone. That counts as a safety.
This is not a hold (unless Texas were on offense):
(https://i.imgur.com/euE0TSr.jpg)
The question against BYU is how many headlocks will they be allowed to put the Longhorn DL in?
1-5 -- should be fine
6-10 -- harder to overcome
11+ -- getting into the equivalent of -2 in TO margin
I'd recommend a wrestling pro be brought in to give a seminar on how to escape sleeper holds.
Meh, what's a little choke-slam between friends?
4. OU (47.4)Apparently.
Sooner Magic
KSU could jump to 60+ this week
Furk me....if anybody read that before I erased it, that was completely the wrong thing to use. Old-azz brain of mine....
I'll do the right one later.
Sooners got screwed by the zebrasI didn't catch any of that game but it doesn't surprise me.
I only saw a replay highlight of an obvious pass interference not called in the endzoneYup there was a lot of that being allowed by B12 refs yesterday-- but only if the player on offense was wearing a Texas or OU jersey.
sooner wr was tackled before the ball arrived
Thats the play that really stood out
amazing no call
but the Horns found a way to overcome it
sure glad the cats coach was an idiot for his overtime call of going for it on 4th down
The Rig12 is going to do everything it can to use its shitty refs to steal a game from us. An away game at TCU or at ISU look like prime opportunities. We're gonna have to play much cleaner football to make sure they don't succeed in their cheating endeavors.
All the criticism for the refs and is anybody going to bring up another problem Texas is having? Blowing big recent leads to Houston and Kansas State?while we had the 2nd half drop off problem last year we dont seem to have this problem this year
Going back to Washington Sark has trouble applying the killer blow. It's a sign of an even bigger weakness Sark has - getting outcoached, especially when it comes to halftime adjustments.
IMO, though Sark's in-game coaching has improved, having the constant talent advantage while coaching USC, Washington, USC again, and Alabama lulled him into out-talenting the competition rather than strategizing matchups and exploiting weaknesses, which Sark teams are often a step behind on.
an ugly win but a win is better then a loss
Ewers was 22 of 33 completed passes for 317 yards 1 passing TD and 1 interception
not his best performance but not his worst either
The coaches chose to shut down our passing attack late in the game for a more conservative ground attack
TCU played eight in the box a was successful at containing our rushing attack
much of the lack of offensive performance came from this coaching decision which I really disagreed with
but again a win is a win
Ewers is clearly still hurt and struggling to throw the ball. That red zone flat pass at the goal line was the perfect playcall and the receiver was wide open for it, but Ewers pulled up short on the throw and couldn't put any power on the ball. Result-- incomplete pass well short of the receiver.Ewers did have that long 3rd down pass for a 1st down late in the game so he must of not been too injured
I think that had as much as anything to do with why the mix shifted to run-heavy in the second half. Don't get me wrong, Ewers did quite well for a player who was clearly still injured and playing at MAYBE 60%. Hopefully he can continue to heal. It's obvious the coaching staff trusts Ewers at 60% more than they trust Maalik at... well... any %.
But our defense has GOT to do better at containing the opponent, especially when the offensive strategy changes of necessity, as it did last night. They did fairly well in the first half, and just flat-out stunk in the second half.
I'm really worried about the game in Ames. Over the past decade plus it's been a tough place for us to play, you know they're hungry, and we're just not playing with a chip on our shoulder. The injuries to QB1 and RB1 aren't going to help.
Ewers did have that long 3rd down pass for a 1st down late in the game so he must of not been too injured
he also passed the ball for over 300 yards
he might have reinjured himself late in the game who knows
if the coaches were trying to protect him late in the game as you suggest then their play calling was necessary
I hope he gets better by next week
A cyclone win this Saturday would sure spice up thingsNo thanks
I'll let myself outyou should be ashamed
Late to the party on recapping the Longhorns holding on Vs a grudge-holding TCU. But that last long throw and catch by Ewers to Mitchell to close it out was a thing of beauty - this type of play is the gutsy difference between the haves and have-nots:
(https://i.imgur.com/qLd6K2N.png)
I very much doubt that any Big 12 team has a DL that matches at least Alabama's at home. When the middle of the 4th quarter came, the Texas OL was able to shove the Bama DL out of the way for 7 minutes and end the game. They absolutely can do it. They knew Alabama was going to empty the tank to get the ball back. They fought through it.I agree, but MDT was talking about the reverse situation. Texas' talented d-line versus under-talented o-lines that are allowed to perform WWE moves at will throughout the game.
There's going to be that particular point where even the Big 12 DLs are going to make a stand. The Texas OL just has to hold each other accountable - remind each other that this is gonna be a man on man fight, and to show the defense who's got the guts.
They squatted around the first half with self-inflicted problems and came on stronger in the second half. The reverse of what they've been doing. If they put it all together for 4 quarters they'll be really tough to beat.
When TVondre Sweat decides to claim the middle of the LOS, he effectively shuts down the running game by himself. Trying to attack the Texas defense without benefit of play-action is a rough proposition. It leaves the opponent with quick slants (as the LBs and DEs decide who's rushing and who's dropping) or the aforementioned OT tackling drill in pass protection.
That 4th and 1 play, hopefully, was a learning moment for the Texas defense. The TE did a brilliant job of disguising himself, but a Safety still should have left the middle patrol to the big boys (realizing that even giving up the 1st down on a sneak only gave ISU the ball at their own 30) and at least made the catch a contested affair. Instead, they were eager for glory, crashed the line, and watched the TE recede into the distance.
Good thumping of TTU by the Horns. Too bad oSu pulled out a win today.
Run the Pokes out of Jerry World in the CCG.
Would Texas be at the point of a "great season" if they win next week?winning the CC game would indicate a great season to me
Or do fans need a bowl win or two as well?
At 12-1, they stay ahead of Alabama no matter what I think.
At 12-1, they stay ahead of Alabama no matter what I think.
For me a "great" season needs to encompass Greatness. Going 12-1, winning a conference championship, and winning a bowl game, I think would constitute a Great season. But losing a bowl game or CFP game would probably take off some of the luster.In a bowl game outside of the national playoff so many key players opt out that its importance is gone to me
Folks have been using the "eye test" against Texas all season, and I get it. Texas has had some close wins that might make you raise your eyebrows a bit.
So I'd hope that Alabama's near-loss to a bad Auburn team would consequently be held against them, too.
I've heard plenty of people say that Texas beat Alabama early, and that things would be quite different now. From what I saw from Texas on Friday, and from Alabama on Saturday, i don't believe that even one bit.
Anyway, gotta beat a game OkState team first. Like Texas Tech, they have a very good running back. Unlike Texas Tech, they have some WRs with a pulse. This won't be an easy game for Texas.
In a bowl game outside of the national playoff so many key players opt out that its importance is gone to meTrue enough. I've never really cared much about bowl games, but in the context of a "great" season with a conference championship and going ALMOST undefeated, I think that losing the final game of the season would probably put a bad taste in my mouth.
its sad really
I'd prefer coaching staffs and teams that value "the game" and treat it as an opportunityMack Brown won a decent amount of bowl games but didn't give a lick about them. He always talked about the value of the extra practices. He used bowl games for team evaluation/development for the following season.
a bowl game is a game - should be valued, but it isn't the same. I'm old.
I'm hoping if Coach Rhule ever takes a team to a bowl, it will be of value to his staff and his team.
I can only hope.
The Dawgs are 36-21-3 in bowl games, but some of those 21 Ls are to Texas, including their last postseason loss.The only REALLY important bowl game between the two teams, is a Georgia win.
Do we count playoff games as bowls?
Texas showed why scheduling at least one major power in OOC play is important. That win over Bama in Tuscaloosa is a big poker chip.Thanks CW
The reverse is why a 1-loss OU Big 12 champion would probably not have been picked for the CFP. Our scheduled game with Georgia was canceled by the SEC for reasonable reasons. SMU was the last-minute replacement. So, no OOC wins that would impress anybody.
Good luck to the Horns in the CCG and on Selection Day.
Oregon only played 5 bowl eligible teams, that's some weak sauce.You make a coherent, logical, fact based argument, and that's why I think you will be wrong.
You make a coherent, logical, fact based argument, and that's why I think you will be wrong.Certainly could be. The committee has surprised me many times before.
I keep hearing about Texas' great win over Alabama. I see Texas' strength of schedule in the single digits as compared to the other teams' mid-double digit SOS.Yup, same as it ever was.
They follow the discussion with "but you can't leave them out of the playoff if they're undefeated!" and "but they're the conference champs!".
It's clear that CFB values zero losses much more than big wins.
We'll see if, to the committee, home field advantage in Lubbock, Texas is worth +50 points.
I think scheduling up does help, if you win, and quite a bit in the event of a clear tie otherwise. It won't overcome a loss if the other team is 13-0.Currently it's not overcoming a loss against a team with the same record, 11-1 Oregon who risked nothing by playing Portland State, Hawaii, and Texas Tech in their OOC. Heck, even YOU are completely discounting that win and Texas' superior SOS, and saying Oregon should get in over Texas if they both win out.
You make a coherent, logical, fact based argument, and that's why I think you will be wrong.ya they're set up for the hoser.
Oregon only played 5 bowl eligible teams, that's some weak sauce.
I would not have guessed Texas would be that bereft of B12 trophies.Yup. Our archrival has pretty much dominated both us, and the conference, for the majority of our tenure here.
I find that these "what-if" scenarios rarely play out. Very good chance FSU will lose to 10-2 L'Ville.Except that it's not helping, because the committee isn't looking at resume' and doesn't give a rat's ass about SOS. If they did, Texas wouldn't currently be sitting behind Oregon.
Very good chance UGa beats BAma. 2 loss Bama is out.
Very good chance UDub beats Oregon.
I didn't realize that oSu and Texas hadn't played. I wouldn't count them out. Mike Gundy, for all his flaws, is a helluva coach about 1/2 the time. Earlier this season I wrote them off, now they're playing for the CCG.
Very fortuitous that UT scheduled Bama, that win is huge in their resume.
My final 4 pick is as follows:
-UT and Mich
-UW and UGa
FSU loses. I think that's the most likely scenario. I still see UGa winning it all, and I very much look to see how UT matches up wiht Michigan. Will Harbaugh be back for the playoff? I can't remember how many games he's out. Not sure if it makes a difference.
The committee has been known to jump things around in the 11th hour. Oregon above Texas could just be a reflection of something they don't think needs fixing if Oregon loses again to Washington. If Oregon wins, it's still possible the committee will see the situation didn't work itself out and do some more evaluation between the two.Pretty sure this is the answer. Which means they're disregarding resume' and SOS, in favor of the "eye test" which leans heavily on MOV.
Or they may feel like Oregon is genuinely better. Who knows. The committee's thoughts and ways are not our own.
Considering MOV without adjusting for SOS is for simpletons-- and that's precisely what the committee is.And of course I'll completely change my stance on the committee if they slide Texas up over Oregon this week, in advance of the CCGs. :)
Washington could always beat Oregon again and make their job a lot clearer.Heh, well for your sake, I'm good with that.
I would like to have seen more out of the Husky defense lately. Looks to me like Oregon is better on that side of the ball since they last met.
Let's just all pull together and root for a Husky win. A second loss for Oregon would be good for Texas, and U-Dubb giving Nix hell all day would be good for Jayden Daniels :)
FTR, I've never liked the "their QB got hurt so they shouldn't be in the CFP" argument. I know that the Committee thinks that way, but I think it's wrong. I know that it stems from the mission to "pick the best team," but I still think it's wrong-headed.
In any case, they often don't pick the "best team" because they overly value the "zero losses" factor. And they value that zero even if it was helped by obvious officiating malpractice.
"Best resume"--which I value--is subjective too, but less so than "best team."
I find that these "what-if" scenarios rarely play out. Very good chance FSU will lose to 10-2 L'Ville.Texas matches up very well with the "run to set up the pass" teams. Our interior DL doesn't usually require help to blow up the A gaps and redirect the RB to the edges. Since the DEs are collapsing the pocket anyway, they're usually there to contain the run until the LBs get there.
Very good chance UGa beats BAma. 2 loss Bama is out.
Very good chance UDub beats Oregon.
I didn't realize that oSu and Texas hadn't played. I wouldn't count them out. Mike Gundy, for all his flaws, is a helluva coach about 1/2 the time. Earlier this season I wrote them off, now they're playing for the CCG.
Very fortuitous that UT scheduled Bama, that win is huge in their resume.
My final 4 pick is as follows:
-UT and Mich
-UW and UGa
FSU loses. I think that's the most likely scenario. I still see UGa winning it all, and I very much look to see how UT matches up wiht Michigan. Will Harbaugh be back for the playoff? I can't remember how many games he's out. Not sure if it makes a difference.
I think there's a very low probability the committee keeps Oregon over Texas if Oregon picks up a second L and Texas remains a 1-loss team.
In the sense that perhaps Texas would get in over 1-loss Washington, maybe it doesn't matter who wins the PAC CG. Which I could actually see
I think mainly Texas needs FSU to lose. Michigan, UGA, the PAC 12 champion (loser is probably out), and then it's going to be Texas no matter what.
The biggest wrench in the works there is if Bama beats UGA. The committee will go through all kinds of mental contortions to figure out how to put both Bama and UGA in.
Guess we'll see.
I sort of want Texas to make the playoffs just so I can see what the defense looks like when the line isn't being suplexed on half the plays.
I want to see the Texas DL try on Michigan's OL.
Last I saw, Oregon is favored over UDubb.My point exactly
UGA is a 5 point favorite, which is not much different than a toss up.
soooooooooo what happens if Alabama beats Georgia
Well then Texas will have beaten the SEC champ head-to-head by double digits on their own field. Alabama eliminates Georgia and Texas goes over Alabama due to head-to-head. Makes perfect sense right? :)If only that would be what would really happens
soooooooooo what happens if Alabama beats Georgia
This is about the filthiest interior DL I've ever seen in college football.What's a DL?
soooooooooo what happens if Alabama beats GeorgiaBama is in
Bama is in
| 2024 Opponent | Location | Date |
| Colorado St. | Austin, Texas | Aug. 31 |
| at Michigan | Ann Arbor, MI. | Sept. 7 |
| UTSA | Austin, TX | Sept. 14 |
| ULM | Austin, TX | Sept. 21 |
| Kentucky | Austin, TX | Sept. 28 |
| at Oklahoma | Dallas, TX | Oct. 5 |
| Georgia | Austin, TX | Oct. 19 |
| Mississippi St | Austin, TX | Oct. 26 |
| at Vanderbilt | Nashville, TN. | Nov. 2 |
| Florida | Austin, TX | Nov. 9 |
| at Arkansas | Fayetteville, AR. | Nov. 16 |
| at Texas A&M | College Station, TX | Nov. 30 |
Two road games to close out the season. Yuck.Yeah, and against two rivals that really dislike us.
I'd doubt Texas jumpin a one loss Georgia
just from the past couple seasons influence
and unfortunately, Bama would jump Texas as SEC champ
I think Laville is only a 2.5 point dog, and Bama is at 5 or so. Both are well inside the MoE.
Michigan looks like a near lock and Texas is close, Oregon of course is favored, close. So, reasonably likely is Oregon, Laville, and Bama all win.:'(
Last I saw, Oregon was favored by 10, so not as close as the others.
UGA pulling -5 against the Gumps is interesting. "They" must know something I don't. Yesterday Pollack said he expects a war but that UGA has the better coach at this point and the better coaching staff. Also said last year at the NC game he was sitting next to Saban (why was Saban at the NC game?) and told him UGA was the new king of the conference, and he mildly regrets that now, with Saban having a year to stew on it and probably post it as bulletin board material. Nevertheless, he thinks current Kirby > current Saban, and UGA will prevail in a close one. Me....if both teams play their best, I don't see how Bama keeps it within 10.
In some ways, it's hard to give the Texas coach too many plaudits. He did a lot with a lot. He took several 4-5 star single digit ranked recruiting classes, top notch facilities, the best assistant coaches available, and turned them into a championship quality football team.
Still, I hope at the end of the game on Saturday, Sark is able to gladly shake the commissioner's hand, accept the Big 12 trophy
and leave it on the bench as the team heads to the locker room to head home.
Cy Young? Forget it, he's rolling.Just saying sometimes it doesnt pay to rattle BEVOs cage
I'll add that Sark has a $50,000 bonus in his contract for winning conference COY honors. So the pettiness just cost him $50K.That's a pity really, for him, though he makes millions anyway. This is petty obviously.
That's a pity really, for him, though he makes millions anyway. This is petty obviously.You ain't just whistlin' Dixie! Here's a look at last year's stats when Texas played OkState, take a gander at the penalty stat line...
Hopefully they drill OkSU 49-3 despite 28 holding penalties.
https://twitter.com/AnwarRichardson/status/1729957849843872137
Still, I hope at the end of the game on Saturday, Sark is able to gladly shake the commissioner's hand, accept the Big 12 trophy
and leave it on the bench as the team heads to the locker room to head home.
Yeah, and if you had a choice, maybe you'd vote to award it this way because it's so obviously absurd and petty and whatever else. Rub it in their faces.
In the SEC, I'd give it to Drinkowitz over Smart because Drink did more with less. Not the case with Texas, as you note. And I think Smart did a fine job. Saban did a good job too I think.
Wow y'all are some vindictive mofos. I like it!
I assume the Horns will feel the same love in both the basketball and baseball seasonsYup I assume so.
FSU is currently the sand in the vaseline.
Every metric currently puts them at the back of the pack. However, if they win against Louisville, they're undefeated conference champs. That metric is tough to overcome. It'd make everything easier if they'd go ahead and lose that game.
If Alabama wins, there's a simple solution but it relies on the committee abandoning their "um, we really like Bo Nix" fixation.
I'd further like to point out that, to the committee, home field advantage in Lubbock, TX must be worth +50 points. Texas and Oregon both played Tech. Texas didn't have to travel to that infernal den.
Well, that oughta end any Texas/Oregon debate if UT takes care of business in the morning.
Still got Florida St to worry aboutThey may be down to QB 3.
They may be down to QB 3.I think that the zebras made a few mistakes in Arlington today. But the net result was probably in Texas' favor. The no-call on clear DPI on FoSu's first possession set the tone. It was about as clear as the DPI no-call that robbed OU late in the Bedlam game. I counted two other bad no-calls, and they went one each way.
And Bama could beat UGA of course. Michigan SHOULD win. And of course Texas SHOULD win but will hafta fight off zebras to do it.
We could still have mayhem even with a Michigan win.
Congrats on the conference championship to all the Longhorns on this board. Well done.Thanks just hope we get a shot
Good luck in the playoffs. Bastages !
I think that the zebras made a few mistakes in Arlington today. But the net result was probably in Texas' favor. The no-call on clear DPI on FoSu's first possession set the tone. It was about as clear as the DPI no-call that robbed OU late in the Bedlam game. I counted two other bad no-calls, and they went one each way.Should, specially if St Nick gets Smart
Texas was clearly the far superior team, almost doubling the spread. The win will help the Horns' case for going to the CFP, I think.
Should, specially if St Nick gets SmartWhich he did.
it’s absolutely the right f4. i feel bad for fla st.5 power conferences and only 4 spots
Alabama > MichiganI could live with that. :)
Texas > Washington
Texas > Alabama
Texas = national champs
I could live with that. :)
Although honestly Texas has already beaten Alabama. Should the Horns manage to beat Washington, I'd prefer a matchup against Michigan, just to play someone new.
I'm looking forward to the rematchIt'll be fun to beat them twice in the same season and win the national championship, the year before joining the SEC. I'm looking forward to it, too!
Bama/Texas
mostly cause it will stir some folk's pot
UGA struggled in the lines against Bama, especially on defense.
Eh, Milroe was plenty mobile against Texas. His mobility is the only reason the score wasn't a lot worse.
I think it's funny when people assert Milroe was bad early in the season, and much better late. If you look at his QBR and net passer rating throughout the season, it's all pretty consistent. He had some peaks and valleys throughout the year, but it was well within a standard deviation of the normal distribution-- except for ONE outlier, where his stats were much worse. That game was against... Texas, of course.
I'm looking forward to the rematchi think we’re getting one. both games are compelling and i’m looking forward to it
Bama/Texas
mostly cause it will stir some folk's pot
Washington is going to score on us, probably plenty. Our safeties are pretty pretty bad. That is by far our largest team weakness.The most any team has scored on us is 30 by Kansas St in OT I dont think Wash will score more then that
I'm hopeful that, unencumbered by B12 officiating, our powerful d-line pass rush will be effective in hurrying Penix and limiting his downfield capability.
On the flipside, I'm not overly worried about Washington's defense being able to stop Texas in any significant manner. As long as Sarkisian doesn't get conservative and turtle up, Texas just has so many ways to hurt you. And he only tends to turtle up when he has a comfortable lead, I'm not expecting that to happen until late in the game, if at all.
I feel like Texas should win something like 35-24 or 35-28, maybe 38-31.
But it's no guarantee of course. Texas could end up losing by similar scores.
kst couldn’t get the ball downfield this yr the way uw can.wasnt suggesting that
Technically he could, I suppose, but if you're leaving you want to get in the portal while the market is wide open, not when the musical chairs has largely played out and options are more limited.
Yup. Playing for a chance at the NC is nice, but when you're the backup, you're basically counting on an injury to your starter, to be able to actually play in the game, rather than just ride the bench. I can't blame him at all, and I'm thankful for his contributions while on the Forty Acres.Again I dont blame him for leaving its just sad there is no team loyalty involved
The Michigan game is a Home and Home but Mich wont play in Austin until 2027 due to SEC scheduling requirements
Is the Michigan game a singleton or the first of a 2-game series?
I'm interested because OU plays a 2-game series with Michigan starting with a game in Norman in 2025. I'd love to go to the 2026 game in Ann Arbor.
gotta be the first SEC team to play @Michiga & @Ohio StateWe played Michigan in the 2005 Rose Bowl and had a Home and home wit Ohio St the following year I think
Yup we playYou may regret saying that. ECFG are always listening.
2024: @Michiga
2025: @Ohio State
2026: Ohio State
2027: Michigan
SEC is such a cupcake conference we had to go to the B1G to get some quality opponents.
;)
You may regret saying that. ECFG are always listening.They get my humor, we're simpatico. After the past 15 years of torturing me, they've had their laughs.
gotta be the first SEC team to play @Michiga & @Ohio State
As a rule, the B10 rarely plays a SEC team in the preseason.I'm delighted for Texas to NOT be a typical SEC team. :)
As a rule, the B10 rarely plays a SEC team in the preseason.That cuts both ways. Until recently, most of the SEC teams avoided playing OOC games against P5 teams. Or, if they did, they'd play a one-off game at a "neutral" site in SEC territory.
yup, always get's blamed on the SEC cause they don't travel north of the Mason/Dixon for anyone
I'm delighted for Texas to NOT be a typical SEC team. :)Well, I'm talking about games and conferences going back decades, all the way back to the 70's and maybe before. Even in the SWC, hardly anybody from the South played anybody from the B10. Very rare.
Well, I'm talking about games and conferences going back decades, all the way back to the 70's and maybe before. Even in the SWC, hardly anybody from the South played anybody from the B10. Very rare.That's true. In SWC days, Texas definitely tended to play more southern teams or western teams, rather than northern teams in our OOC.
Rumors that LSU wants to bring Bo Davis home when Texas' season is done. I wonder 1) if it's true, 2) would he come home, and 3) how much of the Longhorn's DL success was due to him and how much was that the tackles were just studs?does he only have a one year contract? If he went it wouldnt be because of money cause UT could match anything if they want him to stay
Well shit.Happy New Year Back at ya
Heck of a season anyhow.
Happy new year to all!
I think next year will be our year
I was most surprised the Texas defense couldn't get more pressure on Penix
I don't feel like the real Texas Longhorns team showed up. I expected the pass defense to struggle with Penix and Washington's slew of receivers....those guys are incredible (they're nearly as good as our guys :-D ). I didn't expect the backs to turn the ball over twice, and I really didn't expect the Texas passing game to struggle so much to get going. If it would've been just me, I would've switched over to the all-22 coverage to see what was going on down the field, but that would've disrupted the wife's viewing enjoyment. Anyway, I don't know if UT's receivers weren't getting separation, and if not, why not, or if Ewers just wasn't finding them, or what. And if the latter, I'm not sure why he couldn't find them, and I'm not sure why it seemed he got a bazillion balls batted down at the line.
Most of all, the Longhorn swagger, present for so much of the season, was missing. They seemed like they were sleepwalking through all but the last couple of minutes. Just felt like Sark didn't have the team prepared, "up," and playing with urgency the way I've seen before.
Also felt like the refs had money on Washington. I don't mean that Texas' penalties were wrong, per se, but there were multiple fouls I thought were coming against Washington, and....they just didn't.
When a team plays its game and comes up short, that sucks, but it leaves me feeling like things went how they were supposed to. When it looks like a team came up short their best was never present, it feels hollow and wrong. Not a fitting end to their season, to me.
I don't feel like the real Texas Longhorns team showed up. I expected the pass defense to struggle with Penix and Washington's slew of receivers....those guys are incredible (they're nearly as good as our guys :-D ). I didn't expect the backs to turn the ball over twice, and I really didn't expect the Texas passing game to struggle so much to get going. If it would've been just me, I would've switched over to the all-22 coverage to see what was going on down the field, but that would've disrupted the wife's viewing enjoyment. Anyway, I don't know if UT's receivers weren't getting separation, and if not, why not, or if Ewers just wasn't finding them, or what. And if the latter, I'm not sure why he couldn't find them, and I'm not sure why it seemed he got a bazillion balls batted down at the line.
Most of all, the Longhorn swagger, present for so much of the season, was missing. They seemed like they were sleepwalking through all but the last couple of minutes. Just felt like Sark didn't have the team prepared, "up," and playing with urgency the way I've seen before.
Also felt like the refs had money on Washington. I don't mean that Texas' penalties were wrong, per se, but there were multiple fouls I thought were coming against Washington, and....they just didn't.
When a team plays its game and comes up short, that sucks, but it leaves me feeling like things went how they were supposed to. When it looks like a team came up short their best was never present, it feels hollow and wrong. Not a fitting end to their season, to me.
maybe? they also got pretty lucky on a td pass in the 1h.
frankly idk but i defer to giving them credit for the moment.
i have sort of been meh about them as far as being elite's concerned all yr but at some point the results have to matter.
i can tell you right now if michigan shreds them i'll flip flop again.
I actually fell asleep for a few minutes in the 3rd quarter and, unfortunately, so did the football team.obviously, the 3rd quarter was the difference...
also deserve a ton of credit for their game vs the Horns
I did notice the Horns had about as many penalties as their season average
maybe it wasn't the Big 12 refs?
Anyway you slice it a great season so congrats. Has it dawned on you that Texas win the last SWC and now the final season they played in the Big 12?Thanks Gigem. It was indeed a great year for Texas and anything beyond the B12 championship was just icing.
Looking forward to watching the ‘horns in SEC play, should be a lot of great games.
good luck:D
hopefully the SEC refs are square
Last week, Michael Penix played like a god. The Texas secondary isn't exactly a strength, but he was hitting even covered receivers through inch-perfect windows. His receivers had sticky fingers and snagged everything.I wouldn't say, "cupcake QB from a directional school" but there was a BIG difference from last week.
Last night, he played like a cupcake QB from a directional school. Flat out air-mailing passes to wide open guys (Michigan didn't exactly blanket the secondary either) and forcing bad balls. UW has talent, but it all runs through their QB. As magical as he was in stealing last week's game, he was equally lousy in bricking last night's effort.
He kinda had a meteroic rise, then fell off the map. WTH happened?At one point, there was an inappropriate relationship. I don't think that really affected his job prospect much, though.
Really, the teams he was in charge of didn't do very well.
2025 SEC football schedules are out. Same as 2024 schedules but with home/away reversed.Yep. Disappointing.
They're sticking with the 8-game conference schedule which is disappointing but not surprising. The SEC isn't going to give 9 conference games to ESPN without making them pay extra for it.
I wonder how much, if any, money did the LHN lose ESPN over it's run? I heard it was a big money loser, but I was never sure if that was hype or not. I think the LHN was conceived at a different time when cable ruled and streaming was in it's infancy.Thats ok ESPN can afford it.
I wonder how much, if any, money did the LHN lose ESPN over it's run? I heard it was a big money loser, but I was never sure if that was hype or not. I think the LHN was conceived at a different time when cable ruled and streaming was in it's infancy.
The thing is "big money" means something different to the ESPN/ABC/Disney complex than it would to, well, just about anyone else. It certainly didn't make anything back off carriage fees. It had the misfortune of attempting a bold move in the cable-verse just as the cable-verse was beginning its collapse. If anything, it gave ESPN a sandbox to play in, to attempt and test broadcasting formats that may or may not work elsewhere.Yup. The LHN was Disney's move to keep Texas in the B12 and out of the PAC and B1G while they were figuring out their next moves. I've said since 2011 that it was always obvious that Texas to the SEC would be the next logical step but neither party was quite ready for it in 2011.
I can't show you the math, but there's a likely possibility that LHN was a loss leader that kept the Big 12 together and enabled ESPN/ABC to defend that investment as well as give them a foothold in subsequent conference negotiations.
Anything they spent on the LHN was a corporate rounding error.
The thing is "big money" means something different to the ESPN/ABC/Disney complex than it would to, well, just about anyone else. It certainly didn't make anything back off carriage fees. It had the misfortune of attempting a bold move in the cable-verse just as the cable-verse was beginning its collapse. If anything, it gave ESPN a sandbox to play in, to attempt and test broadcasting formats that may or may not work elsewhere.Hmmm...I don't know about that. Rounding error or not, ESPN had to make a lot of cuts over the last few years. Reducing head count etc. https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/30/media/espn-layoffs/index.html
I can't show you the math, but there's a likely possibility that LHN was a loss leader that kept the Big 12 together and enabled ESPN/ABC to defend that investment as well as give them a foothold in subsequent conference negotiations.
Anything they spent on the LHN was a corporate rounding error.
Hmmm...I don't know about that. Rounding error or not, ESPN had to make a lot of cuts over the last few years. Reducing head count etc. https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/30/media/espn-layoffs/index.htmlOnce again prior to the LHN the Big 12 voted not to pursue a conference network which UT wanted but several other schools were against
I recall the LHN being a major bone of contention among other Big 12 schools.
Either way, welcome to the SEC.
Once again prior to the LHN the Big 12 voted not to pursue a conference network which UT wanted but several other schools were againstWe'll never know what the impact of a conference network--which favored--would have had. Or what equal revenue-distribution, a la the SEC, would have accomplished.
When that happened it opened the door for ESPNs LHN proposal
I've seen it reported that the Big 12 chose not to support a network, but I've never understood why. Especially considering that that was about the time the other conferences started theirs up.BTN and SECN hadn't yet really begun, and it was thought that conference networks were money-losing propositions. "We've never gotten much money for those Tier2 and Tier3 rights before, why would we now?" was the thinking.
the value is only going upAttention to sports in general, and college sports particularly, is waning. Kids these days don't care as much about sports, they're not going to the games, they won't be taking their own kids to the games, so they won't be watching the games on TV-- the downward spiral continues.
Women's basketball, women's volleyball, softball and baseball are all trending way up
Belongs on the SEC board.Oh yeah, I forgot about that place.
Great win.
Well I think I can move the entire thread. I just don't know how. I'd rather do that so it would have all its history.ask the man
OK I guess it's time to go ahead and start a Longhorn football thread on the SEC board.I was going to but felt kinda funny doing it
Feels weird, but here we are in 2024...
What’s new will soon be old.Heh. I just saw my typo, but I like it.
I think we’ve been in the SEC now almost as many years as we were in the Bif 12.
Has anyone heard anything on Ewers condition
I know hes not starting this week
just wondered if he'll be back shortly afterward
I was working pit crew last night for my kids' marching band competition (they took 1st place in their 5A classification and came close to beating the school that 1st place in state in the highest 6A classification last year), so I didn't get to see the game.Arch did a good job. His main problem is learning to pass the ball a little quicker. His passes were on target for the most part. He will learn. Monroe would rush 6 guys and Ewers would have eaten them alive with various screens but your right we only ran simple plays and the playbook remained closed.
Sounds like Arch had a decent day, even if the stats are a little underwhelming. I imagine the coaches were keeping the playbook pretty vanilla and just trying to get in and out without any further injuries. Isiah Bond is an absolute beast though, what a great portal pickup. Sarkisian really knows how to use the portal plus HS recruiting.
Arch did a good job. His main problem is learning to pass the ball a little quicker. His passes were on target for the most part. He will learn. Monroe would rush 6 guys and Ewers would have eaten them alive with various screens but your right we only ran simple plays and the playbook remained closed.Me too, pretty sure he will be.
Hope Ewers is back by OU.
(https://i.imgur.com/oNCNoUH.png)that may never happen again. I dig it.
I wonder how much, if any, money did the LHN lose ESPN over it's run? I heard it was a big money loser, but I was never sure if that was hype or not. I think the LHN was conceived at a different time when cable ruled and streaming was in it's infancy.
The LHN also mostly coincided with a prolonged down period in UT football. I have to wonder if the 10+ win seasons had continued, which Texas enjoyed for a long time up until the end of the Colt McCoy era, if the LHN would've been more profitable.I agree, but how many games would have even made it on the LHN every year even in 10 win seasons? All the top games would have been on ABC/ESPN/FOX, or whatever network was available. It almost seems that if LH had been good/better, there would be more demand for those games, and more reason NOT to put them on LHN. LHN seems now like it was more like ESPN+ or SEC+ is. Only the least important games get shown on those networks.
Texas Falls to Georgia 30-15 as the Longhorns Struggle to Play Up To Their Standard (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/live/hCjAnX0w9S8)No thanks, I saw the game, no need to relive the misery.
That hit on Ewers was a blast from the past. You don’t see that much anymore in either CFB or pro-ball.
I think the UGA D Line got healthy at the right time. Now for the OL to clear up.How great for you. The Georgia football thread is over there ------------>
I can't tell ifLotta receivers running open. Protection wasn't great but Quinn seemed to have a really hard time stepping up into the pocket and finding his receivers. He had a very, very, very bad day. Definitely doesn't seem anywhere close to what he was before the injury, and that was true even last week against OU. The Sooners are just a really bad football team this year so it didn't matter as much.
A) the texas ol is that bad
B) they just had a bad game
C) uga dl is that good
D) they played out of their minds
E) some combination of the above
But that was atrocious.
I couldn't see down the field. On downs Quinn held the ball so long, I couldn't tell if the coverage was that good or if he just couldn't find his guys.
Here's an example of what I'm talking about, it's one of several times this happened. There is a clean, open pocket, and Kelvin Banks the NFL-draft-1st-round left tackle has taken on the rusher and drawn him deep, continuing to maintain that clean pocket. All Ewers has to do is step up into the pocket and either make a throw, or throw it away. There's absolutely no need to take a sack there, and at the end of the play you can see that Banks is visibly frustrated with the unnecessary outcome, throwing up his hands at the sack.so should we start Arch
https://twitter.com/CJVogel_OTF/status/1848043883218747563
so should we start ArchIf Ewers is either still injured, or mentally broken, then yes.
It was played at Fair Park Stadium, the predecessor to the Cotton Bowl. The following year, Texas and OU would sign a contract to meet there every year, which has lasted to this day.That must be the wooden Fair Park Stadium that was predecessor to the Fair Park Stadium that was built in 1930 and renamed the Cotton Bowl in 1936.
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It is very possible Texas beats A&M in the last game and plays them again a week later.I think your Dawgs would have to lose another game for that to happen, wouldn't they? And probably LSU, too. That's possible of course, but I'm not gonna say it's "likely."
It is very possible Texas beats A&M in the last game and plays them again a week later.Shush.
Shush.Nah he can keep talking. :)
My GUESS is UGA loses another game and finishes 10-2 and gets an at large.You're just sandbagging now.
Dawg fans will be calling for Kirby's head.
You're just sandbagging now.Yup. I don't see Georgia losing to Ole' Miss or Tennessee and definitely not to Florida.
Let's say the odds of winning those games are:
90% Florida
60% Ole Miss
70% Tennessee ...
... the odds of losing one then would be over 60%.
UGA has looked inconsistent this season, to me, pretty good, then remarkably bad.
Hopefully they won't, from my view, but I worry about Florida, a lot. And Ole Miss. And Tennessee. It's the Larry Munson in me.Sure. I mean, Texas shouldn't have lost to Georgia, and yet here we are. ;)
All it takes is some bad turnovers, a tipped pass, a critical penalty, your QB being off a bit that day, the game plan being wrong, etc.
I basically have a master's in statistics,
Let's say the odds of winning those games are:OM is dog shit (Copyright Mdot21). The only reason why they get any press at all is because of Lane Kiffin and the clown show he brings.
90% Florida
60% Ole Miss
70% Tennessee ...
... the odds of losing one then would be over 60%.
UGA has looked inconsistent this season, to me, pretty good, then remarkably bad.
I literally do. Not that I feel like I've mastered statistics.The statistics thread is... oh wait... we're good here. :)
To me, the tricky thing about odds of winning is they are by definition Bayesian, but people tend to think about them from a frequentist perspective.
"If A played B ten times, A would win seven of them."
Of course, they don't play ten times, and the compound statistical formula doesn't really apply in real life. We can justifiably update our prior assumptions and assign new odds as new data presents itself. I'm not sure, statistically speaking, it's meaningful to say anything about games in frequentist terms.
Which means I basically agree with utee here.
Which hopefully buys me some time before I get the "The statistics thread is over there --->"
The Coke thread is over there ---->OK but I'm talking about coke not Coke. Mostly RC and Dr. Pepper for me, back in the day.
I'll bet you a coke that Georgia wins that game. :)We should discuss this in more detail in this thread perhaps.
I assume that Colt McCoy cooperated in the filming of this Short.first time Ive seen thathttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/3yEeM_tv_Uc?feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3yEeM_tv_Uc?feature=share)
Texas' OC or Sark or whoever should just be having fun facing a bunch of backup DBs with like 42/100 awareness.we're just glad it wasnt a real Florida team
where is Razor ChickShe and UTerin are on FB with me, I hear from them on occasion. RC got married about two years ago.
She and UTerin are on FB with me, I hear from them on occasion. RC got married about two years ago.RC could put some smack down like no one else, talk her/help her get back here!
Good game UT, I thought we had you in the 3rd quarter, but that outstanding defense and two turnovers shut the Hogs down. See you next year!Hogs were game for a game, glad it worked out this way but it certainly could have gone the other. Best of luck the rest of the season and we'll see you next year in Austin!
I had not heard that, but I rarely pay attention to mediots. I kind of like Josh Pate some.The criticism isn't being applied to OOC slate, it's specifically SEC schedule. The various mediots are up in arms that Texas was "gift-wrapped" this super-easy SEC schedule.
OOC you have Michigan and NCSU, not much of a difference this year. NCSU is 5-5 with no notable wins.
I don't criticize conference slates because you have zero control ostensibly. Both teams could have chosen another P5 OOC opponent.
Yeah, I got it, even Vanderbilt is a tough out in the SEC when at home. A three point win is a win.Yup, I'm guessing Alabama would love to have Texas' 3-point win at Vanderbilt.
I consider Georgia loss to Ole Miss an oddity as well.
It does cut way down on near elite OOC scheduling options.Yup. Next year's SEC schedule is just the mirror image of this year's. So the Horns will travel to Athens, Gainesville, Lexington, and Starkvegas, and get the pigs and ags at home.
PSU
OSU
UM
ND
Clemson
FSU???
Miami???
I'd like to see Wisconsin, Nebraska, North Carolina come up someday. Does Texas come to Athens next year?
Yup. Since there are now so many bluebloods and near-blues in the SEC, the only way to get one on the OOC schedule is to schedule a B1G team or ND.
I think the big OOC games UGA has played are pretty special, and I would live watching Texas playing ND, etc. UGA has a big one Saturday against UM.
I don't criticize conference slates because you have zero control ostensibly."Ostensibly" is the key word there.
"Ostensibly" is the key word there.your Sooners looked good yesterday CW
your Sooners looked good yesterday CWThey did look good. After 10 games of mostly looking bad, it's a bit of a relief. I don't know if that's a one-off, or if Bama just didn't come to play, or if some freshmen are starting to play better. We'll see next Saturday in Baton Rouge, I guess.
Wanted to mention this here on the Georgia thread....
At the end of the Kentucky game, Texas just handed the ball off, picked up 5-6 yards a pop, ground the clock down and the defense into submission.
I.
F**KING.
LOVE THAT.
It's everything my team once was, and everything we're not. Our dumbass fans complained for years about having a boa constrictor defense, crazy-elite special teams, and a running game that could go on everyone even when they knew it was coming. Countless times I saw them hold a 10ish point lead for the last 8 minutes or so and when teams absolutely had to have the ball back, we just ran, ran some more, and then ran some more, until the clock hit zero, and you could see the light go out of the opposing defense's eyes a little more with every 1st down.
Texas did it against Alabama last year and they did it against Kentucky last weekend. If there were such a thing as a football boner, the end of those games would've given me one. Forget the long ball. Ground-n-pound is sexy as hell.
I believe UGA designed their defense against Texas to dare the Longhorns to run inside. They stacked the edges and flats while playing safeties deep. At that time, Texas declined to test that middle. Arky, with 2 weeks to prepare, presented an equivalent defense (but differently manned).Amen brutha.
Sark and Flood surely recognized that vulnerability and worked to address it. Many of those runs were blocked inside. It's still not the preferred option, but that's 2 games in a row that Texas bled out the opposition.
Recognition that college football still comes down to playing defense and running the ball.
I guess we'll see whether or not Texas left its shotgun in Atlanta, and won't be able to blast numerous holes in its own feet. Not having SEC refs call the game will be a tremendous advantage for Texas, so that's nice.Looks like Georgias QB is out for the season
I'm just glad Stockton apparently survived with no ill effects. When he was hit, he looked like a heavyweight suffering a flash knockout. His leg buckled and went slack over that right knee.Yeah I was worried about Stockton as well, glad he seems to be okay.
I'm seeing UGA's punter is also lost with a leg injury requiring surgery. Rough.
When the CFP ranked the teams, they ranked Texas #3 and Clemson #16. They got promoted to #12 because the ACC champion is guaranteed a spot. In reality, Texas starts off with the lowest ranked team in the tournament. Should Texas win that game, they progress to the 2nd lowest ranked team in the tourney (ASU ranked #12, promoted to #4 since the top 4 champs got byes).Yeah overall it's a favorable draw, although statistically playing an extra game is more dangerous than getting a bye, despite the "low level of risk" that first game might possess.
Texas hasn't been a consistent enough performer on offense for me to make bold predictions. However, they'll play game 1 at home, game 2 in the stadium they just left, and game 3 at JerryWorld. Defense travels.
In contrast, had they won the SECCCG, they'd be waiting until January to play a game against the #5 or #8 seed in New Orleans.
I concur, their defense will keep things close almost without exception. Then the offense needs to avoid mistakes (!!!) and play smart and RTDB.Which vaunted Texas running back are you talking about? We lost 3 of our top 4 RBs to season-ending injuries, before the season ever started. The three we've been going with all season were 3-5-6 on the depth chart. One of them fumbles way too much, one of them can't pass protect at all, and the last one both fumbles too much and can't pass protect.
I suspect they can run on Clemson, but then, I thought they would run on the Dawgs. With their vaunted RB and OL, one would think they would win running 80% of the time.
I guess we'll see whether or not Texas left its shotgun in Atlanta, and won't be able to blast numerous holes in its own feet. Not having SEC refs call the game will be a tremendous advantage for Texas, so that's nice.
The root problem to me is too many teams which is probably good for $$$ but not much else.
Yeah, I just heard Chris Fowler mention that last night during the Raiders/Falcons game. I thought "Wow, that's weird." Can't remember the last time I watched a cfb game on TNT. And a playoff game, at that.The Spectrum streaming-only television service bundled with Spectrum internet was cheaper than YTTV plus the (increased/unbundled) internet-only Spectrum. And there's no fiber to my house so Spectrum is the only provider for broadband internet that I have available.
YTTV has TNT so you should be fine.
Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it you I was talking to a year or two ago about cord-cutter services like YTTV and you were telling me that your cable bundle with internet still made it well worth your while to use them? (Spectrum, maybe?) Because I think it's the same company we have here (Spectrum is the only cable option here) and I remember thinking "Pfft, Spectrum sure doesn't run any deals like that 'round here." If that was you, what made you jump to YTTV?
At this point it approaches cable prices, but still with the decreased functionality of a streaming service. The only convenience is no contract, and I can turn it off with the click of a button. Which we usually do after theWhy is a streaming service considered decreased functionality? I think it’s an increase. I can watch on any device, multiple tvs with no cable needed. Just a wi fi signal.
Hey @DevilFroggy (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=35) wazzup????
He's terrifying. Longhorn defense is good but that dude is going to get his yards.
The pass rush completely disappeared in the second half, the coaches need to figure out why that happened and fix it.for much of the 2nd half we only rushed 4 using a prevent defense. not sure why
And continuously going for it on 4th down, resulting in 3 turnovers on downs, when putting points on the board via field goal was a viable option for at least two of them and would have put you 3 scores up, is completely unacceptable for a coaching staff in its 4th year. Sark has to learn to do better. That's pure coaching arrogance and stupidity. THREE turnovers on downs. Just absolutely intolerable.
On the other hand, the rushing game was clicking and Ewers played a solid game with a 70% completion percentage, 1 TD, and an INT that wasn't his fault at all. The offense finally showing out for the first time in the past 5 or 6 games was a welcome change.
for much of the 2nd half we only rushed 4 using a prevent defense. not sure whyYeah we definitely went prevent for some of it, but we also just got shut down. That's a problem that needs to be addressed.
Texas wins with only 2 penalties for 10 yardsThat was a good win--congrats!
The refs were from the Big10 and will be calling The Texas vs Ariz St game as well
That was a good win--congrats!I think 12 is too many would rather see 8
Gets you to a meeting with Arizona State. Old Big 12 vs. New Big 12.
So far, the CFP games haven't been very close. I'd gladly go back to four teams. Or, better yet, two.
Scattered thoughts on yesterday’s game:Had our FG kicker done the job he has been doing all year the result would have been much better.
Figured after recently playing Clemson, and familiar with the Atlanta setting from the SEC Championship, Texas would be properly tuned against an ASU team that might’ve grown rusty during the weeks they had off. That seemed to be how the first half played out. Then as the game moved along into the 2nd half, Texas played tired, especially the Longhorns defense.
What is with the OL? Pushing around solid Texas A&M & Clemson defenses but consistently pushed back by Georgia and Arizona State.
The Refs? So many penalties called against Texas, especially the secondary, especially in the 2nd half.
The old Sarkisian is coming back to haunt us; throughout stints at Washington and USC, his teams had the talent advantage 80-90% of the time, yet he was outcoached the in the majority of games, which dropped his short tenures to just above .500 at both Washington and USC. And now the same dynamic is creeping up at the highest pressure times for Texas. Good on Texas for increasing a late lead to 24-8, but after that, the play selection was all over the place. There was a point late in the game, deep in ASU territory, where, in the most obvious rushing situation, Texas passed three straight times. Reminded me of his passing emphasis while calling plays for the Falcons with a big lead in the Super Bowl lost to the Patriots on a blown lead.
If Bama claims it, give it to Vandy.And OU.
Deep pockets make a bowl a major these days. I was pretty happy when the Peach invited SEC 6 and ACC 2, the games were usually good and it sold out. They did that for a number of years, the ACC team got a larger payout. Folks came and enjoyed the experience, I think on NYE. It worked pretty nicely for a minor bowl.
I recall when the Gator was probably the next best bowl after the four majors. Getting there meant you had a pretty good year, like 9-2. Then the Citrus took over as the next best, the highest payout other than a major.
Speaking of which, when did QBs largely stop calling their own plays?
I recall when the Gator was probably the next best bowl after the four majors. Getting there meant you had a pretty good year, like 9-2. Then the Citrus took over as the next best, the highest payout other than a major.Yep. The Gator Bowl was usually the #5 bowl game in the 1960s. At that time, the Tangerine Bowl (ancestor of the Citrus) was definitely a few steps down from there.
And OU.
But if OU and Vandy get it, then give it to Texas...
UGA never played in the Fiesta. It was a minor bowl, as was the Peach, "back in the day". UGA does have a lot of bowl game wins.
No, I thought the 2003 OU team was the greatest of all time?
The major reason why USC got a lot of press is because they had won like two championships in a row, so they were working on a kind of dynasty that we hadn't seen in awhile. I very well remember that Texas received a lot of hype, but it was being billed as one of the greatest games of all time and it actually lived up to the hype.
No, I thought the 2003 OU team was the greatest of all time?
1995 Nebraska is the best college football team of all time, IMO.
Passing game:The most impressive thing about those teams is that in 2008 the o-line was barely average, and in 2009 it was completely awful. Colt and the receivers performed super-human feats on a regular basis in order to move that ball down the field. 2008 was the last not-horrible o-line Texas had, until just now under Sarkisian. A decade and a half of putridity.
I don't know about the overall athleticism and physical giftedness for Texas, but Colt's '08 and '09 teams from a standpoint of sheer production and situational ability are hard to beat. There weren't many defensive looks or athletic defenders that could consistently give them problems. Nigh impossible to shut down for an entire game. Colt's brain worked too fast for the college game and a QB like that is very hard to deal with.
For UGA, I'm thinking of Stafford's last year. I believe that UGA team had AJ Green. They were quite something when Stafford was on. Might be better UGA passing offenses, but that one springs to mind.
Well sure, you could just say "the entire 2005 team" if you wanted.
That's allowed, if that's your pick. Just trying to think of individual phases of the game and remembering the best they had to offer.Our tight end play was a large reason for the 2005 teams success
I think I liked last year's DL better than 2005, but maybe I'm just not remembering the 2005 unit well enough.
iirc, David Thomas made some catches down the stretch during UT's 12-pt deficit comeback. Not like amazing catches or anything, but routine grabs that get you first downs in a situation like that feel huge, and are huge.I dont understand why teams like Texas dont use their TE more then they do.
I dont understand why teams like Texas dont use their TE more then they do.Are you talking about right now? Because right now, we're using the heck out of Helm. He's the best TE we've had in over a decade. BUT... defenses are now accounting for him and doing everything they can to stop him. In theory this should open up other options, but in practice over the past few games, it hasn't helped much.
Friend, let me tell you about the 1917 and 1919 Aggies. Undefeated, and unscored upon. The 1918 team? They went to WWI.
Tennessee in 1938 I think it was didn't allow any points before their bowl game where they faced the all time greated USC team.
Friend, let me tell you about the 1917 and 1919 Aggies. Undefeated, and unscored upon. The 1918 team? They went to WWI.Oh, almost forgot. Even the coach, Dana X. Bible, fought in WWI.
The NCAA doesn't actually "recognize" any D1-A/FBS football championships. It just lists all of the various ones available-- including the rando "100 years after the fact computer algorithms"-- on its website.Agreed, except that I don’t think anybody awarded anything in those years. I’m not even sure when they started awarding a championship, except I know the AP started in 1938 (TCU). A&M won the 2nd.
Personally, I think that if your team didn't earn the recognition at the time, get the trophy or the ring or at least team photo in the newspaper article in the current news medium at the time, then it's not a national championship.
Agreed, except that I don’t think anybody awarded anything in those years. I’m not even sure when they started awarding a championship, except I know the AP started in 1938 (TCU). A&M won the 2nd.Exactly. If it wasn't a thing then, then it's not a thing now.
The NCAA doesn't actually "recognize" any D1-A/FBS football championships. It just lists all of the various ones available-- including the rando "100 years after the fact computer algorithms"-- on its website.
Why is it called "throwing dimes" anyway?
Apparently, Bama has the most SB appearances, and wins. Or so they claim ...I don't know about Mayfield thinking he had it locked up. Did he make some pop-off comment about it? I don't remember him doing that, but it wouldn't have been out of character.
UGA has two Rose Bowl wins, which is kind neat, and they have played every Blue Blood of whatever ilk, Oklahoma only the once when Mayfield thought he had it locked up.
Texas A&M is credited (retroactively) with winning the MNC in 1917 (or 1919 I get them confused), 1927, and the real AP Title in 1939 (which for some reason years later I found we share with USC). At one time the retroactive titles were up on the wall at Kyle Field (after our entry to the SEC to match the Gumps) but I don't know if they're still featured.
Just curious, and I'm too lazy to look up the list, what other championships is Texas (or LSU or OU or Neb) credited with winning (retroactively of course).
Texas claims 4 that I know (two in the 60's, 1970, and 2005).
LSU I think has like 1957, 2003, 2007, and 2019.
Alabama, believe it or not, is a recognized champion for some year, I forget which--and by what poll--that the university does not claim. If rt4f were around, he'd know.I do NOT believe this!
The Peach struggled to stay a bowl for years, and was afflicted with horrible weather year after year it seemed. It hit pay dirt with the SEC-ACC linkage, and then Chick-Fil-A money.
You all failed the assignment. I asked which titles were you retroactively awarded, not which ones you claim. Considering the depths at which we debate endless details from long ago eras I thought there would be some interesting tidbits from the question.I have no idea if Texas has any titles that were retroactively awarded. I guess you could check MDT's silly list on the NCAA website to find out.
Bruh, I told you in the response. LSU was retroactively awarded a title in 1908, though the school doesn't claim or recognize it.my bad.
Silly Aggie.
Texas A&M is credited (retroactively) with winning the MNC in 1917 (or 1919 I get them confused), 1927, and the real AP Title in 1939 (which for some reason years later I found we share with USC). At one time the retroactive titles were up on the wall at Kyle Field (after our entry to the SEC to match the Gumps) but I don't know if they're still featured.I'm not sure how A&M would be sharing the 1939 MNC with USC. The Ags were AP champs and the UPI (coaches) poll did not begin until 1950. Per the NCAA (https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history), USC did not win any of the minor polls either.
Just curious, and I'm too lazy to look up the list, what other championships is Texas (or LSU or OU or Neb) credited with winning (retroactively of course).
Texas claims 4 that I know (two in the 60's, 1970, and 2005).
LSU I think has like 1957, 2003, 2007, and 2019.
I'm not sure how A&M would be sharing the 1939 MNC with USC. The Ags were AP champs and the UPI (coaches) poll did not begin until 1950. Per the NCAA (https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history), USC did not win any of the minor polls either.I’m not really sure I’d call it a shared title, and I never even heard about USCs claims to it. But in the early 2000’s ( 2004 as I recall ) the started recognizing it. Not even sure how legit the Dickinson system was even back in the day.
Check that, the "Dickinson System" proclaimed USC #1 and USC does claim that as a Natty.
The only retroactive MNC that I know of is Oklahoma State's for 1945. A few years ago, the AFCA (which produces the Coaches' Poll) announced that it would consider retroactive claims for 1922-1949 MNCs. FOSU (then OAMC) claimed 1945, and the AFCA accepted the claim.
It is my understanding that FOSU is the only school that made a claim for a retroactive AFCA championship. Maybe that's not true, but, if it isn't, it should be.
I’m not really sure I’d call it a shared title, and I never even heard about USCs claims to it. But in the early 2000’s ( 2004 as I recall ) the started recognizing it. Not even sure how legit the Dickinson system was even back in the day.
FOSU?Oklahoma State.
1966 Alabama should be given NC status. 2-time defending champ and went undefeated.Well, remember, the NCAA does not award a NC in D1 football. It’s essentially a gentlemen’s agreement, and a beauty pageant. Even now, the AP could award the final #1 ranking to someone else ( however unlikely) and it would be legit.
1994 Penn State should be given NC status.
1960 Ole Miss
Those three flat out deserve it. I don't find their cases at all controversial if you could do it. OM and Bama's situations are likely due to southern racism. Penalizing a college football team due to that. It's gross.
Others that deserve it, but would get push-back:
1983 Auburn
2004 Auburn
1984 Washington, Florida, or Oklahoma, just pick one
1977 Alabama (same situation as 83 Auburn). #5 beats #1, passes #3 who won their bowl.
1966 Alabama should be given NC status. 2-time defending champ and went undefeated.If '83 Auburn deserves it then so does '83 Texas, who beat that Auburn team 20-7 in their own home stadium.
1994 Penn State should be given NC status.
1960 Ole Miss
Those three flat out deserve it. I don't find their cases at all controversial if you could do it. OM and Bama's situations are likely due to southern racism. Penalizing a college football team due to that. It's gross.
Others that deserve it, but would get push-back:
1983 Auburn
2004 Auburn
1984 Washington, Florida, or Oklahoma, just pick one
1977 Alabama (same situation as 83 Auburn). #5 beats #1, passes #3 who won their bowl.
Yeah I'm sure there were many conversations had, but have no idea how they went. I suspect these things to be true:Any idea what round he will go in? I wasn't sure if he was still considered top round talent or not. I understand that after about the 3rd round, the pay gets really low. Not sure what a first rounder gets paid these days, but $8 MM is a lot of money to pass up if you're not in the first round.
- Arch let the staff know he didn't want to wait around another year. He was actually fine waiting this long, but another year puts him off-schedule compared to what his team/handlers have determined is his proper development and procession from college to the NFL..
- Ewers was therefore unsure of his future. The coaches stuck with him this year but there's no guarantee they would next year, they are obviously concerned about the QB succession, not just for Arch but for those recruited in years after Arch.
- Ewers really does love being a Longhorn and didn't want to play for another college team. Apparently some of his offers were from teams that are on Texas' schedule next year, and he didn't want that to happen. He wants to preserve his legacy as a Longhorn QB and transferring schools would damage/diminish that both in his own eyes, and in the eyes of Texas fans.
- Ewers has already made several million dollars from his NIL money so far, both from the UT Collectives as well as the individual NIL deals he struck for himself (Dr. Pepper, Kombucha, etc.). Not $8M in a single season type of money, but he's not begging for scraps on the side of the road or anything.
So taking all of that, it seems like Ewers decided that he can best serve his goals by entering the draft and moving on to the NFL. As frustrating as some of his play could be, there's no doubt that he was a primary contributor in helping Texas out of the dark ages and reestablishing the program as a national power. I am thankful to Quinn and wish him the best. I hope it works out well for him in the NFL.
Any idea what round he will go in? I wasn't sure if he was still considered top round talent or not. I understand that after about the 3rd round, the pay gets really low. Not sure what a first rounder gets paid these days, but $8 MM is a lot of money to pass up if you're not in the first round.
But like you said, he pretty much used up all his chances here.
I get what that, but more from a fan perspective. I'm trying to put myself in the head of a coaching staff, and from that perspective, seems like it sure would be hard to pass up a guy with so much experience. However good Arch will be, he likely won't be that good right away.Maybe. I also think they're concerned with the entire succession. Ewers staying another year almost certainly sends Arch Manning away, and there are now 2 other QBs in the queue behind Arch. One on campus now, one on campus in the summer, neither of which has taken a single snap of college football.
Maybe it's like Tulip(?) said....the cohort groups moving through the program are sort of aging out with another, greener group, moving in. Maybe it makes sense to get Arch's growing pains out of the way now, if they believe Quinn returning and being good wouldn't matter as much due to the other guys not being as good.
We haven't had this kind of o-line depth in... well... ever.
So in an age of NIL, the rich get richer. I'm shocked.I like to view it as, removing the self-imposed handicap we placed on ourselves for the past 40 years of refusing to play the bag game.
Dang, even a hater like me can recognize how close Texas was to winning a National Championship this year. Down by 7 to OSU with 2 minutes left 1st and goal will haunt you guys for awhile.
ND vs OSU wasn’t even close.
Dang, even a hater like me can recognize how close Texas was to winning a National Championship this year. Down by 7 to OSU with 2 minutes left 1st and goal will haunt you guys for awhile.Ohio State beat Texas 28-14. But the score was deceptive. TOSU had more yards rushing, more yards passing, and thus more total yards. But only by a smidgeon. Texas ran more plays and probably had more time of possession. TOSU had more yards per play, both rushing and passing. The critical difference was of course the strip/sack/TD return. Take that away and assume that Texas would have scored a TD from 1st-and-goal at the 1, and it's a tie game heading to OT.
ND vs OSU wasn’t even close.
Ohio State beat Texas 28-14. But the score was deceptive. TOSU had more yards rushing, more yards passing, and thus more total yards. But only by a smidgeon. Texas ran more plays and probably had more time of possession. TOSU had more yards per play, both rushing and passing. The critical difference was of course the strip/sack/TD return. Take that away and assume that Texas would have scored a TD from 1st-and-goal at the 1, and it's a tie game heading to OT.
Ohio State beat Notre Dame 34-23. The score accurately reflected Ohio State's 3:2 superiority. But, IMO, to say "ND vs OSU wasn't even close" is off the mark. If ND doesn't boink that chip-shot FG attempt off the left upright, just maybe the end result is different, although probably not.
If frogs had wings they wouldn't go through life bumping their asses on the ground.
Ohio State beat Texas 28-14. But the score was deceptive. TOSU had more yards rushing, more yards passing, and thus more total yards. But only by a smidgeon. Texas ran more plays and probably had more time of possession. TOSU had more yards per play, both rushing and passing. The critical difference was of course the strip/sack/TD return. Take that away and assume that Texas would have scored a TD from 1st-and-goal at the 1, and it's a tie game heading to OT.That’s a lot of words to describe a game that was 1-2 yards from being tied late in the 4th, around 2 minutes. Yards and TOP don’t mean shit, scoreboard is what makes the determining factor.
Ohio State beat Notre Dame 34-23. The score accurately reflected Ohio State's 3:2 superiority. But, IMO, to say "ND vs OSU wasn't even close" is off the mark. If ND doesn't boink that chip-shot FG attempt off the left upright, just maybe the end result is different, although probably not.
If frogs had wings they wouldn't go through life bumping their asses on the ground.
I dunno what page 72 says. I know page 97 says "You grab the snap from the shotgun. You fake one way, then toss to your fleet RB. The defense, however, is also fast, and they are ready for your misdirection. Your star TE and LG both miss their blocks - allowing the defenders to swarm the ball carrier at the 12 yard line. It's 3rd down, and you're now 12 yards away from a tied ball game!".
And my responses here today are the first time I've even made any commentary/analysis of that game. Maybe the last time I'll ever talk about it, too. It really really sucked.
Yeah that sucks, too.
But the fact that y'all won another NC 8 years later, just 5 seasons ago, kinda mitigates that.
For Texas it's now been 20 years. And it's harder now than ever, to win it all.
And yeah I realize plenty of fans of other programs out there would love to be in our shoes. It can always be worse.
On the plus side, when the team sucks ass, it doesn't kill me like it used to. So I guess there's that silver lining. Can't feel the pleasure anymore, but can't feel the pain either.Yeah I've commented many times that I'm headed down this path as well. With each change, they've chipped away at a little bit more of what I loved about the sport. Add to that getting older, shifting priorities, etc. and I just don't care as much as I once did.
Not me man. I am a Horn that lives and dies with each years games. I hope I never lose that feeling.Yeah the team is in a bit of a rebuild mode for next season. 2026 is likely the next real opportunity for a deep playoff run.
The Horns are probably 2 years away from another serious run for the NC
Im with them now and will be with them then
Hook'em
Yeah the team is in a bit of a rebuild mode for next season. 2026 is likely the next real opportunity for a deep playoff run.Im basing my opinion on having a green QB next year but there are pluses in that I think Arch is faster then Ewers and will turn out to be a better passer
That said, the schedule is pretty favorable next season, and with 12 teams getting in, a playoff berth next year isn't out of the question. And, once you get INTO the playoff, for a talented team like Texas, anything is possible.
Im basing my opinion on having a green QB next year but there are pluses in that I think Arch is faster then Ewers and will turn out to be a better passerI don't know if Arch will be a better passer than Ewers when he was at his best. In that Alabama game in 2023, and even against Michigan in 2024, he was dropping dimes all over the place.
I don't know if Arch will be a better passer than Ewers when he was at his best. In that Alabama game in 2023, and even against Michigan in 2024, he was dropping dimes all over the place.by better I mean more consistent
Unfortunately, whether it was the injuries or something else, we really didn't see peak Ewers at any point after the Michigan game. He put together a good quarter or a good half here and there, but he was never the same after that first injury this past season.
by better I mean more consistent
Im thinking also quicker less sacks
Replacing 4 out of 5 OL starters, including the line captain Center. Going to need to see what the new chemistry is like.which is another reason to feel our year will be 2026
Yeah I guess we'll see. There may be more entrants, but the path itself is now considerably harder than ever before. To me, more entrants just means more wash-outs. Did anyone actually think Indiana or Boise State or Clemson or Arizona State or SMU had a real shot?One of the sports radio bloviators out of OKC was complaining that there were too many average teams in the CFP.
which is another reason to feel our year will be 2026Eh, I’m not sure about any of the old way of thinking. Because with the portal, all of your developing players could be gone by 26. On the other hand, you could bring in a bunch of experienced starters.
Eh, I’m not sure about any of the old way of thinking. Because with the portal, all of your developing players could be gone by 26. On the other hand, you could bring in a bunch of experienced starters.nonsense they wont make any more at any other school
Ah yes! The 120,000 person football diamond.
One of the sports radio bloviators out of OKC was complaining that there were too many average teams in the CFP.
His solution? Expand the field to 16.
:banghead:
???No, he didn't offer any explanation. Just went on to another random, talking-off-the-top-of-his-head, bloviation.
Did he say anything about why he thought more teams would fix the problem of too many average teams? That's an odd thing to say, even for a sports bloviator trying to fill up time.
On offense alone, Texas is losing the starting QB, 4 out of 5 starting offensive linemen, and the top 3 receivers including the starting TE. It's going to be an interesting year.
Agree, Sark always seems overly ready to just abandon the running game, and this year was even worse with the pre-season loss of Baxter. I'm really hoping he comes back close to 100% because he's a real difference maker. Using him as the feature back with Wisner as the alternate, would be a fantastic combination. And then there's always Gibson, assuming he can learn to hold onto the ball...
Indeed!Agree, with Ewers there was just almost zero danger of punishing a defense for cheating.
Having Arch "keep" once in a while will at least demand honesty from the LBs and DEs.
Agree, Sark always seems overly ready to just abandon the running game, and this year was even worse with the pre-season loss of Baxter.
And also the first Longhorn to score two TDs in the Superbowl...
I just looked it up. No TD for Mike in the SB. One catch, 31 yards. Underwhelming.
Ricky Williams to New Orleans when they sucked.
Were there Longhorns who were perhaps underutilized in college who are in the Pro HoF?Dunno, not sure who's in the pro HOF.
Making a catch in, and winning, a SB puts him in, like, I dunno, .0001% of all people on the planet. So I mean....there's that.Oh, no doubt. But for an all-world receiver like Mike Evans (certainly he will be in the HoF) with Tom Brady as the QB I would have thought he would have more than 1 catch in the biggest game of his life.
Such a change to see players develop. For too long, Texas would get commitments from top end high school talent, have them play for 4 years, and have them leave as top end high school talent. They'd never get better.Yup. Player development seemed to cease to exist sometime around the last couple years of the Mack Brown era, and that didn't change until Sarkisian arrived. It's truly refreshing.
Such a change to see players develop. For too long, Texas would get commitments from top end high school talent, have them play for 4 years, and have them leave as top end high school talent. They'd never get better.
I just found out that there will be no spring game for the Horns. Interesting