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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on December 27, 2021, 10:01:57 AM
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Per the ap on my phone and the worldwide leader, here are the match-ups sorted by line from most favorable for the B1G to least favorable to the B1G:
- Ohio State -6.5 vs Utah in the Rose Bowl in Pasadena
- Wisconsin -6 vs ASU in the SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl in Vegas
- Minnesota -5 vs WVU in the Guaranteed Rate Bowl in Phoenix
- Maryland -3.5 vs VaTech in the New Era Pinstripe Bowl in the Bronx
- Michigan State -2.5 vs Pitt in the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl in Atlanta
- Penn State -1 vs Arkansas in the Outback Bowl in Tampa
- Iowa +3 vs Kentucky in the Vrbo Citrus Bowl in Orlando
- Purdue +5 vs Tennessee in the Music City Bowl in Nashville
- Michigan +7.5 vs UGA in the CFP Semi-Final Orange Bowl in Miami
- Rutgers +14.5 vs Wake in the TaxSlayer Gator Bowl in Jacksonville
I see this as three solid favorites (tOSU, UW, MN), four basically picks (UMD, MSU, PSU, IA), two solid underdogs (PU, M), and one HUGE underdog (RU).
We are favored in six but that probably works out to about 5-5 on something like this:
- 2-1 as solid favorites
- 2-2 as picks
- 1-2 as underdogs
So my guess is going to be 6-4 but I think 5-5 is much more likely than 7-3.
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I'm not sure I can assign one or even two reasons to this but I have yet to watch a snap of the bowl games and I'm not sure I'll have any as appointment viewing before 12/31.
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I'm not sure I can assign one or even two reasons to this but I have yet to watch a snap of the bowl games and I'm not sure I'll have any as appointment viewing before 12/31.
TBH, I'm the same way. I haven't watched a snap yet. There are a few reasons:
- I was an early cord-cutter so I don't get ESPN and LOTS of bowls have migrated there.
- I have kids now so it isn't easy to just run to the bar to watch.
- With COVID/distancing that limits the ability to see non-broadcast games as well.
I'll probably watch UCLA/NCST tomorrow because it is on FOX.
On Wednesday Maryland plays at 2:15 but I'll be at work. If I didn't have kids and it was a close game I'd probably stop at a bar after work to watch the end but no.
Same for Purdue/TN on Thursday at 2.
MSU/Pitt Thursday at 7pm is a game I would definitely watch if it was on broadcast but it isn't so I'll miss it.
I'm off work Friday:
- Rutgers vs Wake at 11am I would watch if it was broadcast but it isn't.
- I have no need to see Bama slaughter Cincy.
- I'd watch Michigan/Georgia if it was broadcast but it isn't. I *MIGHT* run to a friends' house for the end if it is close.
Saturday I'll watch Iowa/Kentucky because it is on ABC then I'm going to a party for the RoseBowl.
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Bowls season is a season unto itself.
So much changes from regular season to now.
Having said that I se 5 ish wins there.
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I just started on bowl season, with the Detroit bowl...
I was having trouble getting into it before Christmas, especially with teams I couldn't care less about. Not that i care about WMU or Nevada, but I had nothing better to do than drink coffee and watch this.
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Based on the lines, 6-4.
Based on 20 year olds with a month off, one of the favorites will lose and one of the underdogs will win.
So still 6-4.
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4-6.
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I'm going 5-5
hoping for better
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I am going with 8-3, assuming the NCG counts as a bowl.
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I am going with 8-3, assuming the NCG counts as a bowl.
Out of curiosity is that 8-2 with a CG loss to Bama or 7-3 with a CG win over Bama?
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Out of curiosity is that 8-2 with a CG loss to Bama or 7-3 with a CG win over Bama?
The latter.
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The latter.
Wow, optimistic!
Even ignoring your CG win prediction the 7-3 in the 10 already scheduled bowls would be impressive.
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Looking pretty good so far. Our teams are now 2-0 and while both winners were favored, they both comfortably beat the spread:
- Minnesota was favored by 5 over WVU, won by 12.
- Maryland was favored by 3.5 over VaTech, won by 44.
Today we have:
- Purdue as a (now) 7.5 point underdog vs Tennessee in Nashville.
- Michigan State as a (now) 3.5 point favorite vs Pitt in Atlanta.
- Wisconsin as a (now) 6.5 point favorite vs ASU in Vegas.
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better than the SEC, who have started 0-5, 4 losses and a forfeit.
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6-4?
But 0-3 versus SEC?
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https://www.si.com/college/virginia/football/college-football-bowl-challenge-cup-standings
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6-4?
But 0-3 versus SEC?
1-3 vs SEC - Purdue beat Tenn, Mich lost to Ga, PSU lost to Ark, Iowa lost to Ky
1-0 vs Big 12 - Minn beat WV
2-1 vs ACC - MD beat VT, MSU beat Pitt, Rutgers lost to WF
2-0 vs PAC - Wisc beat ASU, OSU beat Utah
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You could say comparing the Big Ten to the SEC is like comparing the Big Ten West to the Big Ten East.
The top of the SEC is better than the top of the Big Ten, but the middle of the Big Ten is better than the middle of the SEC.
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A lot of the games were very close, basically even.
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G5-P5 ended 6-1. Bama was the one. Weird year.
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A lot of the games were very close, basically even.
Between the opt outs, the usual motivation/preparation issues, and all the close games it would be foolish to try to read too much into these results.
- PU beat TN in OT
- MSU beat Pitt by 10 but entered the 4th down by 11 before scoring three 4th quarter TD's.
- UW beat ASU by a TD
- Iowa lost to KY by a FG
- tOSU beat Utah by a FG
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That Iowa loss was the most frustrating. (The OSU comeback was the most stressful.) I was really surprised how well Rutger, kept it a game vs. Wake.
It's fun to compare conference bowl records, but B1G loss all but one of the big bowls and doesn't seem very good up top.
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It's fun to compare conference bowl records, but B1G loss all but one of the big bowls and doesn't seem very good up top.
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That Iowa loss was the most frustrating. (The OSU comeback was the most stressful.) I was really surprised how well Rutger, kept it a game vs. Wake.
It's fun to compare conference bowl records, but B1G loss all but one of the big bowls and doesn't seem very good up top.
Iowa used the same strategy that had worked for them all year, essentially kneeling down on its 2nd last offensive possession on offense with a 1 score lead and turning it over its excellent punter and defense to win the game. Just for the 1st time all season , the defense failed to hold a late lead. Iowa was going to get burned sooner or later using the strategy.
As for the Big Ten's record in big bowls, technically the Peach Bowl and Rose Bowl are considered big bowls, and the Big Ten was able to beat both the ACC champ and the PAC champ in 2 big bowls.
Overall the Big Ten was 5-1 vs the ACC, Big 12 and PAC, with the only loss being Rutgers losing to WF. I would say the Big Ten did just fine against everybody but the SEC.
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The B1G did just fine IMHO. I think the conferences are closer than many suspect in reality, at least the B1G and SEC are pretty close most years, and the other three bounce around a good bit. The Pac seems to be fading lately though, and the ACC simply lacks a second team of consistency.
Clemson finished 10-3 of course which is a down year for them, which says something about their program.