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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on December 02, 2021, 05:04:29 PM
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The CFP era so far of 2014-2020 was dominated by Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma in that order.
In the first seven years of the CFP those four teams have:
- 20 of the 28 CFP appearances 71.4%: The other eight were two by ND and one each by LSU, UGA, Ore, FSU, MSU, and Wash.
- 11 of the 14 CFP semi-final wins 78.6%: The other three were one each by LSU, UGA, and Ore
- 6 of the 7 Championships 85.7%: The other one was LSU
From 2014 to 2020 those four teams took up at least two of the four CFP spots each year:
- 2 in 2014 (Bama, tOSU)
- 3 in 2015 (Bama, Clemson, OU)
- 3 in 2016 (Bama, Clemson, tOSU)
- 3 in 2017 (Bama, Clemson, OU)
- 3 in 2018 (Bama, Clemson, OU)
- 3 in 2019 (Clemson, tOSU, OU)
- 3 in 2020 (Bama, Clemson, tOSU)
This year first Clemson then tOSU and OU eliminated themselves from CFP contention and Bama is hanging on by a thread (though they do control their own destiny). At most one of the four will appear in the CFP this year. We haven't seen less than three since 2014 and we've never seen a CFP with less than two. We are about to see one with one or even possibly zero.
Appearances:
- 6 Bama
- tie 6 Clemson
- 4 tOSU
- tie 4 OU
- 2 ND
- 1 LSU
- 1 UGA
- 1 ORE
- 1 FSU
- 1 MSU
- 1 Wash
Semi-final wins:
- 5 Bama
- 4 Clemson
- 2 tOSU
- 1 LSU
- 1 UGA
- 1 ORE
Championships:
- 3 Bama
- 2 Clemson
- 1 tOSU
- tie 1 LSU
Of this years remaining contenders, other than Bama only UGA even has so much as a prior appearance.
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2021 is just the beginning. They will be going to a 12 team playoff in the very near future.
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*fewer
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It would be neat to see three new teams in the playoff, I think, if we presume UGA is a lock.
We also had full stadia and no evidence COVID was sparked by that.
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Hey I thought with the COVID rules and the top teams losing so many guys, we might see a bit more different season. This blind squirrel may have found that nut.
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How about the CFP adopt the longtime "no repeats" rule the B1G had, in terms of going to the Rose Bowl?
If you make the playoff, you're ineligible for the following season.
Those upper-echelon teams would have to still try hard and keep their position in order to make it again the following year.
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2021 is just the beginning. They will be going to a 12 team playoff in the very near future.
And it will fail,NFL Bound Talent will tell the establishment nice knowing you.Oh you can still have your games but there will be big holes in once robust rosters
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And it will fail,NFL Bound Talent will tell the establishment nice knowing you.Oh you can still have your games but there will be big holes in once robust rosters
huh? how will it fail? if anything you'll see more potential NFL draft pick players actually play. what happens now? top players only play in CCG's and then if they happen to be on one of the 4 teams that make the playoff. the other bowl games- kids that have 1st/2nd rd grades just sit out now to protect their nfl draft status.
Go to 12 games- you'll have NFL prospects from the top 12 teams actually playing- which is better than NFL prospects from only 4 teams playing.
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How about the CFP adopt the longtime "no repeats" rule the B1G had, in terms of going to the Rose Bowl?
If you make the playoff, you're ineligible for the following season.
Those upper-echelon teams would have to still try hard and keep their position in order to make it again the following year.
run that by the SEC
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huh? how will it fail? if anything you'll see more potential NFL draft pick players actually play. what happens now? top players only play in CCG's and then if they happen to be on one of the 4 teams that make the playoff. the other bowl games- kids that have 1st/2nd rd grades just sit out now to protect their nfl draft status.
Go to 12 games- you'll have NFL prospects from the top 12 teams actually playing- which is better than NFL prospects from only 4 teams playing.
Tell it to Jaylon Smith or Jake Butt off the top of my head.Bull crap agents,friends,family would advise differently.Keep it were it's at lot of kids have sat to protect their draft stock already and still go in the 1st round.Attempts at extending the season will only enhance injury chances
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I'd guess many solid first rounders could opt out, especially backs on teams without the first round bye. Put Ole Miss in the playoff, does Matt Corrale play? or drop?
I would advice him to drop out. Zero upside and a lot of down.
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I think the whole playoff idea is flawed. Too much luck and randomness involved in one game outcomes between two closely matched teams. And what is the point of having games like BYU vs. Georgia in a 12 team playoff? I still like the old bowl games better.
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There will always be a plus one team left out that complains. Fifth, ninth, 13th, whatever, it's unfair.
This year we might not have even four teams that look to be playoff caliber as we normally think of it.
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They don't opt out of the playoffs now, but it will magically become a huge problem if they adopt a playoff format that you don't like?
Sound reasoning.
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I think the whole playoff idea is flawed. Too much luck and randomness involved in one game outcomes between two closely matched teams. And what is the point of having games like BYU vs. Georgia in a 12 team playoff? I still like the old bowl games better.
Amen, brutha.
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Good we can go back to the old conference alignments while were at it
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Good we can go back to the old conference alignments while were at it
What old conference alignments?
They have never been consistent at any point, ever.
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Nubbz could easily pick a past season
so could I
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These are chronological.....
The Big Ten's iterations:
23 years of being 10 teams
10 years of being 9 teams
40 years of being 10 teams
21 years of being 11 teams
3 years of being 12 teams
7 years of being 14 teams
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The SEC's iterations:
32 years of being 12 teams
2 years of being 11 teams
24 years of being 10 teams
21 years of being 12 teams
9 years of being 14 teams
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The PAC's iterations (excluding some weirdness around 1960):
22 years of being 10 teams
9 years of being 9 teams
19 years of being 8 teams
33 years of being 10 teams
10 years of being 12 teams
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Big 8/12 iterations:
19 years of being 6 teams
11 years of being 7 teams
38 years of being 8 teams
14 years of being 12 teams
10 years of being 10 teams
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ACC iterations:
18 years of being 8 teams
12 years of being 7 teams
8 years of being 8 teams
13 years of being 9 teams
1 year of being 11 teams
8 years of being 12 teams
7 years of being 14 teams
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SWC iterations:
31 years of being 7 teams
20 years of being 8 teams
20 years of being 9 teams
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I figure the bolded ones are the "golden age" where we all fondly remember college football being perfect.
The B1G with MSU, the SEC pre-divisions, the PAC-10 w/ the Arizona schools, the original Big 8, the SWC w/ Houston, and the ACC w/ Florida St
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There is not a single season that had all of those alignments simultaneously.
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I've said it before, but college football really benefited by having numerous powerful independent programs to flesh out schedules and fill in quality bowl games.
Once we started having strict conference tie-ins and having Louisville in the Orange Bowl or Texas in the Sugar, it was all over.
Thanks to the 1987 NC matchup of Miami vs Penn St, we had a short window of 5 "big" bowls instead of 4.
I posit the 5 years before SEC expansion in 1992 (1990 off the field) was the best era of college football.
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There is not a single season that had those alignments.
Correct, but the window I specified is missing only the ACC w/ FSU. All the rest are included there.
The bold parts are just what we think of a conference being back when it was good. I didn't mean they all existed at the same time.
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Pretty convenient that the CFB alignment peaked right around the time you started watching.
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it's pretty simple, just put me in charge
I'll fix it.
I'll work out the conferences and then the schedules for all P5 teams for the 2022 season
just keep ABC/ESPN, CBS, NBC, FOX out of my hair until the schedules are set. They can bid for the rights to games when that is finished.
there will be plenty of money for everyone in the end
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Folks our age in 1990 probably wrinkled their nose at Houston and the Arizona twins being in big boy Conferences.
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I didn't mind the Arizona Twins, but the Cougars weren't worthy
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The Arizona twins weren't even in the same time zone as the Pac 8.
They would have been the Rutgers and Maryland of their day.
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Pretty convenient that the CFB alignment peaked right around the time you started watching.
Uhhh....for our generation, yes. That's the point. Our general consensus would probably be the bolded ones.
You're honestly blinded by your hatred of me that you can't even post a genuine comment here. How sad for you.
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Merely pointing out that the alignments were never consistent, nor perfect.
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Merely pointing out that the alignments were never consistent, nor perfect.
And my post was supporting that, by showing all of the increments of time each conference has had.
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Personally my favorite was the one season where the Big East, Big 8 and SWC all simultaneously existed. But that was far from perfect. Arkansas was already in the SEC, the Big East wasn't playing a full interlocking schedule yet, and the SWC without the Hawgs was basically a G5 Conference with a pair of P5 teams.
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Yeah, those last few SWC seasons were dominated by A&M. Those were some really good teams, but they always seemed to fall short in the bowl game.
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I'd put the Piggies back in with the Horns and the Aggies
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Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff, speaking Friday ahead of the Pac-12 championship game, told members of the media he’d like to see the Big Ten alter its conference schedule to accommodate The Alliance.
Both the Big Ten and the Pac-12 play 9 league games. The ACC and SEC play 8. The number has been a particular topic of contention in the College Football Playoff era. While the Big Ten claims to give its teams a tougher schedule and therefore a better resume for the CFP committee to evaluate because of the extra game, the SEC argues that it’s simply extra exposure for a CFP-run-ending loss.
In mid-November, while Ohio State was playing a ranked Purdue squad and Michigan was playing Penn State, Alabama was hosting a 1-win New Mexico State squad in an out-of-conference snoozer.
It would seem that if the Pac-12 is going to schedule more non-conference games with its Power peers in The Alliance, Kliavkoff wants them to take the place of a conference game to keep things balanced.
https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/pac-12-commissioner-calls-for-b1g-to-play-8-league-games-instead-of-9/?fbclid=IwAR2txOr0jd8APMQ41OQnKVAe-NxTyxOv0abjOR4ugVpO4YbFJpRKrSnIMxE (https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/pac-12-commissioner-calls-for-b1g-to-play-8-league-games-instead-of-9/?fbclid=IwAR2txOr0jd8APMQ41OQnKVAe-NxTyxOv0abjOR4ugVpO4YbFJpRKrSnIMxE)
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Wasn't there a year when one team jumped another on the final week, even though neither team played? Or am I "misremembering" that?
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perhaps the season the Huskers went to the Rose to play the Canes? about 2002
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Wasn't there a year when one team jumped another on the final week, even though neither team played? Or am I "misremembering" that?
That's not as bad as TCU winning 49-3 and getting passed.
Nor as bad as #3 winning its bowl when #1 and #2 lost theirs, and getting passed.
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Maybe not, but that doesnt really answer my question
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2001 Season:::
In yet another controversial season for the BCS, (AP) No. 4 Nebraska was chosen as the national title opponent despite not having even played in the Big 12 championship game. The Huskers went into their last regularly scheduled game at Colorado undefeated, but left Boulder having lost the game by a score of 62–36. The Buffaloes went on to win the Big 12 championship game. The BCS computers, among other things, didn't weigh later games any more heavily than earlier games, and one-loss Nebraska came out ahead of two-loss No. 3 Colorado and one-loss, No. 2 Oregon. Some fans chanted "number 4" at the title game held at the Rose Bowl.
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Some fans chanted "number 4" at the title game held at the Rose Bowl.
To be fair, they could have been counting first half TDs scored by Miami or Nebraska turnovers or Nebraska player concussions....