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Title: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: ELA on November 02, 2021, 06:16:27 PM
#6 Ohio State Buckeyes (5-0, 7-1) at Nebraska Cornhuskers (1-5, 3-6)
NOON - Lincoln, NE - FOX
Nebraska is the definition of playing up or down to your opponent.  Their two toughest opponents, Michigan and Michigan State, should have been wins.  Their next two, Oklahoma and Minnesota, were both one score losses.  But then they lost at Illinois and home against Purdue.  I suppose this is the ultimate test of that.  If Nebraska can play close to Ohio State, Husker fans may just throw their hands up in the air.  The Husker defensive line hasn't been great at getting pressure on the quarterback, but they have been pretty solid against the run, giving up just 3.8 ypc, and have been outstanding in short yardage situations, ranking 12th in the nation in defensive success rate in 3rd/4th and 2 or less.  That has to give them some hope, after the Buckeye offensive line struggled in run blocking against a Penn State defensive front that had gotten absolutely blown off the ball by Illinois' offensive line a week earlier.  TreVeyon Henderson still got 152 rushing yards, but he needed 28 carries to do it, and got 68 of those on one carry.  Against the two best defenses Ohio State has played, Oregon and Penn State, that line struggled with run blocking.  The problem, is neither time did C.J. Stroud let it effect him.  Throwing for 789 yards, 4 touchdowns and just 1 interception.  So, fine Nebraska, take away the run, Stroud will just beat you.  The Huskers will let him complete whatever he wants, and then try to keep the receivers in front of them.  In terms of yards per attempt, Nebraska's pass defense looks pretty good statistically, top 20 nationally, but that's because they rank 3rd in the country in yards allowed per completion, but while allowing opponents to complete over 66% of their attempts, in the bottom 25 of the FBS.  Stroud is leading the Power 5 in yards per attempt, thanks to a dynamic receiving group, where Alabama's best receiver couldn't even get playing time.  You want to let this group catch the ball, and think you can tackle them?  Good luck with that.
OHIO STATE 41, NEBRASKA 23

Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on November 02, 2021, 06:31:11 PM
Part of me thinks Nebraska should just line up with the triple option or the wing t
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 02, 2021, 06:39:51 PM
They already tried that in the 2019 game.
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on November 02, 2021, 06:51:52 PM
They already tried that in the 2019 game.
Kinda worked! At least compared to the rest of the offense
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 02, 2021, 07:15:41 PM
Yeah, they were moving the ball pretty well forcing OSU to burn a TO on D, then Martinez arm punted it to an OSU DB on the next play. 
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on November 02, 2021, 07:25:26 PM
OSU sitting behind Oregon at #5 in the first CFP ranking.  To me....that makes sense.  Both one loss....Oregon with the head to head.  Really.....OSU has everything in front of them.  They come ahead of Oregon at #4 in the CFP rankings....they still need to beat MSU who is at #3.  They'll be in the top four with that win.  They need it regardless.
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on November 02, 2021, 07:48:37 PM
Correct head 2 head counts
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 02, 2021, 07:57:48 PM
So, fine Nebraska, take away the run, Stroud will just beat you.
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 08:41:27 PM
When I looked at the schedule before season, I was not sure what OSU would look like. 

But I identified 2 “trap “ games they would face if they were good. 

First game at Minnesota-and Nebraska. 

( when I think of a trap game- it’s a team capable of kicking your ass if you don’t bring you A game.)

Purdue and Iowa of recent times, for example. 

The Huskers have been on the brink of victory against all of the good teams they have played this year 
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 02, 2021, 09:26:37 PM
this is what gives Scott Frost and the Huskers hope, one of thee games they will get the breaks and win a game by one score
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 09:32:39 PM
this is what gives Scott Frost and the Huskers hope, one of thee games they will get the breaks and win a game by one score
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if it happens this weekend.
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 02, 2021, 09:46:15 PM
well, you'd be a little surprised

much less surprised than I

I assume the trend continues and the Husker keep it to within one score and lose, AGAIN
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 10:04:04 PM
well, you'd be a little surprised

much less surprised than I

I assume the trend continues and the Husker keep it to within one score and lose, AGAIN
Well they damn near beat Michigan, MSU and Oklahoma.   

OSU in my view is on par with those guys.  
plus- if you look back on recent upset losses by OSU in conference- they were always road games the week following a tough, physical home win against a good team. Just sayin…
Title: Re: #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 02, 2021, 10:50:30 PM
I'm just sayin, OSU is on par with the guys Frost can lose by 7 or less

seems more reasonable than a win

more likely a 15 point loss as Vegas sees it
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 03, 2021, 02:19:36 PM

2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rcyokIsZb4

2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HjkGifVhhk
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 03, 2021, 02:21:47 PM
2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OydizpOFMw&t=1s

2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDNhIOIvcP4
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 03, 2021, 02:22:28 PM
2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfRvBs5pI8M&t=719s

2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOoVXK_QJ6M
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 03, 2021, 04:01:49 PM
nice work, hopefully that Husker drive running the option is part of the highlights
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 03, 2021, 04:11:07 PM
Ten years ago my dad, brother, a buddy and I went to Lincoln for this game, the first B1G game ever played in Nebraska.  @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) was a great host, thank you friend!  

That 2011 game that I attended was Nebraska's only win in nine attempts against the Buckeyes.  IIRC, it was the largest comeback in Nebraska football history.  Series history:


Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 03, 2021, 04:32:41 PM
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/the-situational/2021/11/126373/amazing-grace

Fearless ( and ELA)

This is a quick read which I think you’ll both enjoy. If nothing else this guy is a great writer and he writes an article once a week.

Most people forget what’s really going on here but not me. If we still had an upset thread this would easily be my pic this week.
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 03, 2021, 08:39:15 PM
Series History: Nebraska vs. Ohio State
Nebraska and Ohio State will meet for the sixth straight season on Saturday, and for the 10th time overall. Eight of those 10 meetings have occurred since Nebraska joined the Big Ten in 2011.

• Ohio State leads the all-time series, 8-1, including a 2-1 edge in Lincoln.

• Nebraska and Ohio State are in the final year of a six-year stretch of meeting every season as cross-division foes. The next meeting between the schools is currently scheduled for 2024 in Lincoln.

• The first meeting in Lincoln in 2011 was Nebraska's first-ever Big Ten home game on Oct. 8, 2011. That game featured the largest comeback in NU history, as the Huskers rallied from a 27-6 third-quarter deficit for a 34-27 victory.

• One of the teams has been ranked 14th or higher in each of the nine all-time matchups. Ohio State has been ranked in the top 10 in eight of the 10 all-time meetings, including this week's game.

• Before Nebraska joined the Big Ten, the only prior meetings between the schools occurred in 1955 and 1956 in Columbus.
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 03, 2021, 08:40:49 PM
The Matchup
Nebraska remains at home for a second straight week with the Huskers set to welcome sixth-ranked Ohio State to Memorial Stadium on Saturday. Game time between two of the most storied college football programs is set for 11 a.m. CT with television coverage provided by FOX, and the game can also be heard on the Huskers Radio Network.

Nebraska comes into the game with a 3-6 overall record and a 1-5 mark in Big Ten play. The Huskers are coming off a 28-23 home setback against Purdue on Saturday. Nebraska held a 17-14 advantage at halftime, but could not hold the lead, as the Boilermaker defense controlled the Husker offensive attack in the second half to key the victory. Nebraska will be looking to end a three-game losing streak against Ohio State, with the three setbacks coming by a total of 12 points.

Ohio State stands at 7-1 overall and 5-0 in Big Ten Conference play, following a 33-24 victory over No. 20 Penn State on Saturday night in Columbus. Ohio State is ranked No. 6 in this week's AP poll and stands at No. 5 in the USA Today Coaches Poll. The victory over Penn State was the sixth straight for the Buckeyes, with Ohio State winning those six contests by an average of 36.2 points. The Buckeyes will enter Lincoln as winners of 26 straight games against Big Ten Conference opponents.

Coach Ryan Day's team features the top-ranked scoring offense in the country at 47.3 points per game, while ranking second in total offense (548.1 ypg) and sixth in passing offense (346.3 ypg). Defensively, Ohio State ranks in the top 20 nationally in scoring defense (19.2 ppg) and rushing defense (106.9 ypg) and is in the top 10 in turnover margin (+1.0).
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Abba on November 03, 2021, 09:12:16 PM
How do these 11AM kickoffs work in Lincoln?  I've only been to night games there previously.  Do they open up bars/restaurants in the morning, or is tailgating the only option?
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 03, 2021, 09:28:51 PM
some bars will be open at 9am

all will be open by 10am, which isn't much time

Tailgating is the better option

11am kicks are not good

Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 04, 2021, 04:25:02 PM
Chase Contreraz will be the Huskers' starter at placekicker for a second consecutive week. "He did a great job of earning it last week," Frost said. "...He had a confident look in his eye, and that gives me confidence."

Frost announced that walk-on Nouredin Nouili has been placed on scholarship after starting the last four games at left guard, and the Huskers revealed on Twitter that safety Myles Farmer has earned a Blackshirt.


Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 04, 2021, 05:58:19 PM
Ohio State is going to roll. 
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 04, 2021, 06:23:51 PM
I'm afraid so

I'd take the Buckeyes and give the points

I'm planning to play golf
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 05, 2021, 05:32:48 PM
Ohio State redshirt freshman quarterback Jack Miller suspended

where was Jack on the depth chart?

never-mind, apparently 3rd string
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on November 05, 2021, 06:23:34 PM
Ohio State redshirt freshman quarterback Jack Miller suspended

where was Jack on the depth chart?

never-mind, apparently 3rd string
Yeah, probably not long for Buckeye world now
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 05, 2021, 06:27:10 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5t55ax.jpg)
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Abba on November 05, 2021, 11:54:19 PM
I was expecting something like this during the bye week.  We seemed to survive it, but then this happens on a game week.   Very odd, especially with the Ruggs thing a few days prior.

Is it a big loss?  I guess not, but he was in competition for the backup spot.  If Stroud got knocked out, I felt good having Miller available as he looked more cool than big arm, high ceiling, but very nervous McCord.  So if McCord struggled in that scenario, Jack was ready. 

Now it's basically McCord or bust at backup.
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on November 06, 2021, 07:26:30 AM
They brought Quinn Ewers to Nebraska, Day said he could play if needed.
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on November 06, 2021, 08:57:53 AM
Yeah, probably not long for Buckeye world now
Prolly hit the Portal and will be playing next fall.I think he played at the same H.S. as CJ Stroud
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on November 06, 2021, 09:00:18 AM
They brought Quinn Ewers to Nebraska, Day said he could play if needed.
Hopefully no this season
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on November 06, 2021, 09:05:46 AM
Ohio State redshirt freshman quarterback Jack Miller suspended
No "Miller Time" for you - 1 year
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on November 06, 2021, 09:08:36 AM
If the second W/L figures are overall, OSU one L of course.

Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 06, 2021, 09:10:11 AM
well, the Huskers only win in the series was the day Braxton Miller went down in Lincoln.  I was there.

I won't be in Lincoln today.  

Neither will Rex Burkhead

I'll be on the golf course
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 06, 2021, 09:11:53 AM
If the second W/L figures are overall, OSU one L of course.


talk to ELA
wish he could subtract one in that column for the Huskers
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2021, 01:29:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYX--pGreqM
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (5-0, 7-0) at Nebraska (1-5, 3-6) Game Week
Post by: BuckeyeAvenger on November 07, 2021, 07:14:26 AM
The way Nebraska keeps playing close games that they lose is an indication of a few things. The Nebraska players have definitely not quit, and continue to try hard for their coach (they don’t want to lose Frost). The Nebraska defense is a solid group (players and coaches), worthy of respect (as they have earned it). The head coaching mentality (playing to keep it close and avoiding the bad, blow-out loss that might get me fired) is misguided, when you are playing good teams (better or perceived to be better), it is important to take chances, and go for the throat (not play conservative).
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on November 07, 2021, 09:24:18 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p526x296/253870915_296973225764358_8932235692095403971_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=20D-a3U5k2EAX_yALSe&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=aa90963b1cbf8df9b9e7846ad68f2be0&oe=61AC3C1A)
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: BuckeyeAvenger on November 08, 2021, 07:06:34 AM
I like Stroud a lot, but he has a problem that Dwayne Haskins had, he is averse to running at all, in any situation (taking something too far). At some point, when this type of QB rolls out to throw, and has a back to pitch to, or backfield pass as an option (when everyone is covered downfield), the defense will swarm the back, as the QB is ZERO threat to run. I don’t expect him to become Justin Fields, but part of being an excellent QB, is taking what the defense is giving you (because they can’t defend everything) - nobody is covering the QB run, when Stroud has the ball. In order to improve, he needs to change that about his game, going forward. If not, he will be continually missing out, on what any defense is just giving him.
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on November 08, 2021, 07:12:34 AM
2021 Nebraska is the best 7 loss team I've seen in my lifetime.
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 08, 2021, 07:25:53 AM
I like Stroud a lot, but he has a problem that Dwayne Haskins had, he is averse to running at all, in any situation (taking something too far). At some point, when this type of QB rolls out to throw, and has a back to pitch to, or backfield pass as an option (when everyone is covered downfield), the defense will swarm the back, as the QB is ZERO threat to run. I don’t expect him to become Justin Fields, but part of being an excellent QB, is taking what the defense is giving you (because they can’t defend everything) - nobody is covering the QB run, when Stroud has the ball. In order to improve, he needs to change that about his game, going forward. If not, he will be continually missing out, on what any defense is just giving him.
I tend to agree.  It would open some things

https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on November 08, 2021, 07:40:44 AM
I like Stroud a lot, but he has a problem that Dwayne Haskins had, he is averse to running at all, in any situation (taking something too far). At some point, when this type of QB rolls out to throw, and has a back to pitch to, or backfield pass as an option (when everyone is covered downfield), the defense will swarm the back, as the QB is ZERO threat to run. I don’t expect him to become Justin Fields, but part of being an excellent QB, is taking what the defense is giving you (because they can’t defend everything) - nobody is covering the QB run, when Stroud has the ball. In order to improve, he needs to change that about his game, going forward. If not, he will be continually missing out, on what any defense is just giving him.
I was thinking exactly this during the game. While Stroud has a great arm and seems to make pretty good decisions most of the time, if he were able to affect the defense with a viable ability to run, this offense would be unstoppable. While I DON'T want to see a return of someone like JT Barrett where the QB run seemed to be the preferred option, having that ability in much the way Fields brought it to the table, would definitely help this offense.
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: Cincydawg on November 08, 2021, 07:47:16 AM
A mobile QB is always a pain for any defense, if he uses said mobility at selected times.

Bo Nix is not that good a QB, but he can extend plays and at times do a Manziel.  It makes them dangerous to better teams.  You almost have to spy.
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on November 08, 2021, 10:14:48 AM
I like Stroud a lot, but he has a problem that Dwayne Haskins had, he is averse to running at all, in any situation (taking something too far). At some point, when this type of QB rolls out to throw, and has a back to pitch to, or backfield pass as an option (when everyone is covered downfield), the defense will swarm the back, as the QB is ZERO threat to run. I don’t expect him to become Justin Fields, but part of being an excellent QB, is taking what the defense is giving you (because they can’t defend everything) - nobody is covering the QB run, when Stroud has the ball. In order to improve, he needs to change that about his game, going forward. If not, he will be continually missing out, on what any defense is just giving him.
perhaps he's been hit pretty hard and had some nagging injuries and been told by his coaches to protect himself and not run at all?
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on November 08, 2021, 10:15:35 AM
2021 Nebraska is the best 7 loss team I've seen in my lifetime.
nothing to be proud of, Son
Title: Re: #5 Ohio State (6-0, 8-1) at Nebraska (1-6, 3-7) Post Game
Post by: MrNubbz on November 08, 2021, 10:20:01 AM

I like Stroud a lot, but he has a problem that Dwayne Haskins had, he is averse to running at all, in any situation (taking something too far). At some point, when this type of QB rolls out to throw, and has a back to pitch to, or backfield pass as an option (when everyone is covered downfield), the defense will swarm the back, as the QB is ZERO threat to run. 


I was thinking exactly this during the game.
While Stroud has a great arm and seems to make pretty good decisions most of the time, if he were able to affect the defense with a viable ability to run, this offense would be unstoppable. 
Yup I was screaming this in the game thread,not sure what it is,maybe the 1st season under center