Now that footballoutsiders doesn't have SP+ anymore, is SP anywhere other than behind ESPN's paywall?Not really, though Football Outsiders still lists the main ranking as part of F+. I was going by Bill Connelly's tweets
Yeah....I used to like to take a look at SP split into offense and defense, so I was just wondering. I think the FEI is interesting, though iirc correctly it's attempting a different measurement. It's been a few years since I read through the framework, but SP is measuring on a per-play basis, and FEI is measuring on a per-drive basis, is that right?Yeah - I think so at least. It's been a while since I looked at SP+ stuff and now it's behind a paywall. But both are tempo-free and get roughly to the same spot. I follow Bill Connelly on twitter so he's very open on how he puts stuff in to make it more accurate and measures it's success every week. The FEI guy probably does the same thing, but I don't follow him on twitter so I wouldn't know :)
LSU and USCFranklin can recruit ran into bad luck getting a good QB hurt.PSU better have a suitable replacement,if they're entertaining the thought
of course some bitter drunk sportswriter thinks Dabo could be lured to LSU
Buckeyes ascend to #1 on SP+What the hell is this SP?can find up to date BIG info here
What the hell is this SP?can find up to date BIG info hereEssentially a computer ranking, where they are up front about what they are measuring. Take yards per play and adjust based on opponent and the situation per play (i.e. a four yard gain on 3rd and 3 is good, on 3rd and 10 not so much, at least on offense. Vice versa on defense).
Essentially a computer ranking, where they are up front about what they are measuring. Take yards per play and adjust based on opponent and the situation per play (i.e. a four yard gain on 3rd and 3 is good, on 3rd and 10 not so much, at least on offense. Vice versa on defense).So it didn't predict Illinois-Penn St in other words
So it didn't predict Illinois-Penn St in other wordsNo definitely not
it does predict that Nebraska is better than their won-loss recordGive Frosty a raise
whatever that is worth
OSU has only broken the century mark once, and it was against OberlinThink it was like 1893 Oberlin beat both UM/tOSU,some guy named Heisman was coaching them
Yeah, I could easily see a score like 54-27 OSU winning, no doubt.Right now, I don't see Penn State scoring 20 points against anyone, let alone Ohio State. I think the defense will perform well in the first half, then get worn down as they end up spending 45 minutes on the field.
I doubt it will be 20-18 in 9 OTs.
50 is not out of the question.as Barry would say, "Hang half a hundred on them"
Started improving each week and blowing teams off the field.If Oregon/tOSU run the table Ducks have to go in front of the Bucks.But I would put tOSU in front of undefeated UC or the Sooners based on schedule strength
In college football nothing is more dangerous than a team with talent that has their backs absolutely against the wall.
If Oregon/tOSU run the table Ducks have to go in front of the Bucks.But I would put tOSU in front of undefeated UC or the Sooners based on schedule strengthIf OSU is fortunate to get that far, which I doubt, I would love to see the rematch with Oregon.
Buckeyes ascend to #1 on SP+ on the strength of their offense, which is miles ahead of the next team.
Right now, I don't see Penn State scoring 20 points against anyone, let alone Ohio State. I think the defense will perform well in the first half, then get worn down as they end up spending 45 minutes on the field.I think Ohio State is good, but I'm not sure HOW good. Looking at Ohio State compared to their opponents' opponents:
https://twitter.com/11W/status/1453053754626953223?s=20is this real? LOL wtf.
https://twitter.com/11W/status/1453053754626953223?s=20(https://i.imgur.com/8bBF24u.png)
Really Franklin? With that press conference; are you using a Rope-a-Dope strategy? Are you trying to Troll OSU Fans? Hoke called Ohio State 'Ohio', is Franklin trying to take the rivalry up a step and call the Buckeyes 'Illinois'?They didn't need Franklin faffing things up to get ready for this border war.If Clifford is good to go then it'll be interesting
I think Penn State, errr I mean 'Pittsburgh' (see what I did there?) is going to throw everything including the kitchen sink at the Buckeyes, and it's gonna be another classic.
is this real? LOL wtf.According to Franklin, he changed agents during the summer. It is just now coming to light because of the vacancies.
Dude just fired his agent and hired SEC super agent Jimmy Sexton. I don't think he does that if he planned on staying at Penn State. He only does that if he's planning on getting a new gigantic deal from an SEC team.
Really Franklin? With that press conference; are you using a Rope-a-Dope strategy? Are you trying to Troll OSU Fans? Hoke called Ohio State 'Ohio', is Franklin trying to take the rivalry up a step and call the Buckeyes 'Illinois'?I'm a little more bullish on the Buckeyes but I generally feel the same way. I see a distinct possibility that Penn State is just a beaten team. The Illinois loss was really a killer because it took away almost all of their previous goals:
When I start to feel good about the Buckeyes, I get nervous. And how OSU has feasted on bad opponents, has everyone feeling good about OSU. And Penn State absolutely falling apart against the Fighting Bert's, has everyone feeling bad about the Lions. Then Franklin, getting a new 'SEC' super agent, and acting like a moron at his press conference, has he lost the team? Is one foot out the door? All this leads to an easy pick for Ohio State, but.....
I think Penn State, errr I mean 'Pittsburgh' (see what I did there?) is going to throw everything including the kitchen sink at the Buckeyes, and it's gonna be another classic. If OSU doesn't bring their A+ game, I can see the game breaking in favor of the Bad guys. And since this game is in the Big House, fan noise won't be a factor.
Why do teenage girls always walk in groups of 3,5,7?
Because "I can't even...."
And that's how I feel about this game. I can't even...
I'll be on campus by noon, and sitting first row of C deck section 25. Let's Go Bucks!
| #20 Penn State Nittany Lions (2-2, 5-2) at #5 Ohio State Buckeyes (4-0, 6-1) |
| 7:30 - Columbus, OH - ABC |
| The shine has come off this one in a hurry thanks to a pair of losses from Penn State, where the offense looked absolutely anemic without a fully healthy Sean Clifford. The line this week seems to reflect that he still isn't healthy, but absent hearing anything further, I generally assume guys are either going to play or not, so for these purposes, I'm going to assume he's good to go. He better be, because as good as the Nittany Lions defense is, and it is probably the best in the conference, if your offense still can't put up enough points to outscore Iowa and Illinois, good lord, how can they possibly expect to keep up with the Buckeyes. Oregon held them to 28, back when their offense didn't look like it did now...and it was barely enough. Even if Penn State can repeat that, which I think they can, Penn State is a better defense, and that Oregon team was missing Kayvon Thibodeaux, I'm not sure the Nittany Lions can get to 35. And no Big Ten team has held the Ohio State offense to under 45 points. And when Minnesota did that, we questioned what was wrong with their offense. Oddly, this is the third time in program history that Ohio State has scored 50+ points in four consecutive games. The two prior times were 2014 and 2017, and both times they had to play Penn State to get that program record setting fifth straight. Both times Penn State ended the streak, but both times Ohio State still won the game. Why we have gone from wondering if this is the year someone jumps up and keeps the Buckeyes out of the Big Ten Championship Game, to penciling them back into the playoff is the defense. Ohio State doesn't have to be great on defense, but after Minnesota and Oregon shredded them to start the year, we legitimately wondered how bad they could be. They still lack the elite pass rusher to erase the other holes that they've had annually, but the linebacker play has really been a pleasant surprise, with Ronnie Hickman taking a massive leap forward, and converted running back Steele Chambers looking like a natural. The secondary is still a little too dependent on turnovers though. The Nittany Lions' hopes hinge entirely on Sean Clifford being 100%, and the lines, both of them, but particularly the defensive line, have to shake off last week. The Buckeye running game is fairly big play dependent, so they have to bottle them hope, and rely on a secondary, which is leading the nation in opposing yards per attempt (4.9) and is second, behind Washington, in yards per completion (9.0) |
| OHIO STATE 34, PENN STATE 21 |