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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Drew4UTk on October 20, 2021, 02:12:29 PM
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Does anyone here have one? If so please PM me- I may, perhaps, have something for you.
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I don't think anyone here drives one of those.
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Shocking development.
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Certainly makes no sense for us to get one. We drive <75 miles per week on average, and when we take a driving trip North (not since June of %$*&), I don't want to stop every 300 miles to charge.
We spend more for gas for the boat than we do for the Benz.
Gonna buy an AMG S Class next year. Not that we need it.
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Considering getting one for my next car, but still have at least 5 years on my current one.
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I like my current current car, a 2017 Equinox. It is reliable and economical unlike my old BMW, which was fun to drive but ate through maintenance and repair money like Superman jumping tall buildings in a single bound.
My intention is to go retro in about 2025-26 after the VW Microbus EV comes out circa 2023-24. Unlike my 1970 Microbus which could reach speeds up to 67 mph on flat ground with pedal to the metal, the new VW Microbus, will have 300 hp estimated in the AWD version. I need AWD in the upper Midwest, and I'd like the extra torque and speed.
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https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/columnists/henry-payne/2021/10/20/review-cadillac-ct-4-v-and-ct-5-v-blackwings-payne/8513254002/?utm_source=detroitnews-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=list_article_headline&utm_content=1008DN-E-NLETTER65
This is more my speed.
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my speed and my taste, just not my budget
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If you drive 1,000 miles a month and get 30 mpg overall you're obviously using about 33 gallons at say $3 per, not really that much of an expense. If the premium for an EV drops to near zero, it will become obviously more prevalent. They still are a small minority on the streets, though in Norway over half of new sales are EVs. That is in part because they pay no tolls and no parking.
The pickups look really interesting to me.
We were at Denver waiting on a shuttle and I noticed how many diesel buses are used to get you to the rental car place and hotels, it's pretty bad. ATL at least has a tram thingee to take you to a common rental car location.
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Considering getting one for my next car, but still have at least 5 years on my current one.
Same for me. I bought the Flex in May 2017, and there simply were zero EVs that met the criteria for what I was looking for. The closest was the Tesla Model X, but that was about $50K too expensive. We bought the wife's RX350 in Oct 2018, and again the EV market wasn't mature enough for what she wanted (an SUV/Crossover) in any sort of a realistic price range.
I expect the Flex will come around for replacement somewhere in the 2025 timeframe when my oldest goes to college, and the RX will be sometime after that.
By then there should be a much more mature EV market that goes beyond simply Tesla, and there's a very good chance one or both will be replaced by EV.
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Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas — and results were surprising
https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/cars/2021/10/21/electric-vehicle-charging-cost-vs-gas/6110815001/?fbclid=IwAR0ln0nl86LvGtw7hY40QM7XcDZc0FYjQZAcQCwHvJvCu9FCf3s-iaiUQLY (https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/cars/2021/10/21/electric-vehicle-charging-cost-vs-gas/6110815001/?fbclid=IwAR0ln0nl86LvGtw7hY40QM7XcDZc0FYjQZAcQCwHvJvCu9FCf3s-iaiUQLY)
"They are a wonderful driving experience. But at the same time, they're an enormous burden in time and in energy in finding chargers and getting them charged," Anderson said. "And you’re not really saving much in terms of charging costs ... you may be paying more.”
Costs to drive an EV compared with a gasoline car are detailed in a report Anderson Economic released Thursday called "Comparison: Real World Cost of Fueling EVs and ICE Vehicles."
The study has four major findings:
There are four additional costs to powering EVs beyond electricity: cost of a home charger, commercial charging, the EV tax and "deadhead" miles.
For now, EVs cost more to power than gasoline costs to fuel an internal combustion car that gets reasonable gas mileage.
Charging costs vary more widely than gasoline prices.
There are significant time costs to finding reliable public chargers — even then a charger could take 30 minutes to go from 20% to an 80% charge.
It is the first of a series of reports Anderson Economic Group will release. It started the project — an independent report — more than six months ago.
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I sure like that Lucid Air. Maybe not at that price point, but will be exciting to see new players and Old ones repurposed.
Had a really good talk about the old guard manufacturers with an Engineering friend here in Indy, hes with a slightly different Engine manufacturer, but has some old world experience. Talked about the inertia, human and other challenges as it relates to shifting the focus of production to EV at those shops. He's a Tesla owner and a self confessed Musk psycophant. Despite that a big booster of EV r&d and growth by any players.
Fascinating times.
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Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas — and results were surprising
https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/cars/2021/10/21/electric-vehicle-charging-cost-vs-gas/6110815001/?fbclid=IwAR0ln0nl86LvGtw7hY40QM7XcDZc0FYjQZAcQCwHvJvCu9FCf3s-iaiUQLY (https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/cars/2021/10/21/electric-vehicle-charging-cost-vs-gas/6110815001/?fbclid=IwAR0ln0nl86LvGtw7hY40QM7XcDZc0FYjQZAcQCwHvJvCu9FCf3s-iaiUQLY)
"They are a wonderful driving experience. But at the same time, they're an enormous burden in time and in energy in finding chargers and getting them charged," Anderson said. "And you’re not really saving much in terms of charging costs ... you may be paying more.”
Costs to drive an EV compared with a gasoline car are detailed in a report Anderson Economic released Thursday called "Comparison: Real World Cost of Fueling EVs and ICE Vehicles."
The study has four major findings:
There are four additional costs to powering EVs beyond electricity: cost of a home charger, commercial charging, the EV tax and "deadhead" miles.
For now, EVs cost more to power than gasoline costs to fuel an internal combustion car that gets reasonable gas mileage.
Charging costs vary more widely than gasoline prices.
There are significant time costs to finding reliable public chargers — even then a charger could take 30 minutes to go from 20% to an 80% charge.
It is the first of a series of reports Anderson Economic Group will release. It started the project — an independent report — more than six months ago.
IMHO the analysis is flawed, as it assumes a great deal of charging is done at public commercial charging stations, which I don't really accept.
One downside to EV today is that it makes economic sense primarily if you can charge at home using residential rates. Most people who do that will never see a commercial charging station except on road trips. For them, the cost even after amortizing the cost of installing a charger at home will be less than gas.
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I agree, I'm sure he wanted to get some clicks and some readers.
but, if you're a traveling salesman or someone out of town or using commercial charging it's good to know
I don't think the residential charger needs to be a 220 model for fast charging overnight - faster charging is harder on the battery
will be interesting to see resal value on these vehicles as they approach 10 or more years of age - replacing batteries will be expensive
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2022 Lucid Air Grand Touring First Test: An Impressive Rethink of the Luxury Sedan (motortrend.com) (https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-lucid-air-grand-touring-electric-luxury-car-first-test-review/?sm_id=organic_fb_MT_trueanthem&utm_campaign=&utm_medium=&utm_source=&fbclid=IwAR09eOAP1y2c_QNoyT5DmewYyglmi5uP9HB9CEhyKCaDQy8XS90zVV1ecWc)
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Level 1 chargers use 110 VAC outlets and charge about 1-3miles per hour.
Level 2 Chargers are 230 v and charge at a medium pace, but not too fast. Like 15-20 miles per hour.
Level 3 is DC, and charges up much faster. This is the territory where can shorten the life of the battery, depending on who to believe.
I personally believe level does not deplete the life of the battery because when you drive you’re discharging it faster than a level 2 can charge.
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Level 1 chargers use 110 VAC outlets and charge about 1-3miles per hour.
Level 2 Chargers are 230 v and charge at a medium pace, but not too fast. Like 15-20 miles per hour.
Level 3 is DC, and charges up much faster. This is the territory where can shorten the life of the battery, depending on who to believe.
I personally believe level does not deplete the life of the battery because when you drive you’re discharging it faster than a level 2 can charge.
Yeah, I don't believe that Level 2 charging rates have any meaningful effect on battery life.
What can have an effect even when using level 2 charging is that regularly charging >80% of the battery capacity can reduce its lifespan.
So it's best to only use that in situations where you know you need the extra range, such as the night before starting a road trip.
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2022 Lucid Air: Take a Deep Dive Into the Stunning EV’s Powertrain Tech (motortrend.com) (https://www.motortrend.com/features/2022-lucid-air-powertrain-tech-deep-dive/?sm_id=organic_fb_MT_trueanthem&utm_campaign=&utm_medium=&utm_source=&fbclid=IwAR2n86WwbImDOvizEQ4_otoFQyOJRBMKmUoZIm5Vu2JU2pRPvckij-Dwslg)
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UK Government Transport Minister Trudy Harrison recently spoke at a mobility conference, addressing the future of personal mobility. In her comments, she said it was necessary to ditch the "20th-century thinking centred around private vehicle ownership and towards greater flexibility, with personal choice and low carbon shared transport." That’s right, she said the quiet part loud and showed the hand of a growing number of government officials.
Harrison went on to praise not only public transportation but also bike share services, e-scooters, and ride sharing platforms. All of these are supposed to tune down how much carbon the UK is emitting into the atmosphere. As with all choices, this comes at a cost, particularly for those living in rural areas.
What’s more, 300 residents in Coventry recently expressed interest in giving up their personal cars. The tradeoff from the government reportedly would be a mobility credit worth up to £3,000. This mobility credit program has been going since March of this year, with 73 cars turned in and crushed. No, this isn’t a joke, but I wish it were.
Understandably, many Brits are upset about this. Some have asked if they should start riding their horse instead, all the in the name of “progress.” Others are tying this statement by Harrison with the looming government ban of internal combustion engines for cars by 2030. After all, EVs aren’t exactly cheap, so what better way to force people onto public transportation than by pricing them out of the vehicle market?
I’ve been calling out the elitist plan in some government circles to eliminate the private ownership of cars for some time. For many, the possibility that such a thing could be real leads to their minds lashing out at the source of such news, and so I’ve been called a “crazy conspiracy theorist” among other things for trying to shed light on this disturbing topic. Well, time has vindicated my stance and people in the UK are starting to wake up to the very real possibility they would be completely dependent on the government to be driven anywhere.
If you think this plan is limited to just the UK, you haven’t been paying attention. There have been other efforts to make private vehicle ownership a thing of the past, including a new measure in Southern California. The 2021 Regional Transportation Plan passed recently by the San Diego Association of Government’s board of directors is a $160 billion initiative just for the metropolitan area to boost public transportation.
That’s a hefty price tag for such a small area, so one of the ways officials have been planning to fund it is by levying a per-mile driving tax against citizens. That was such an unpopular move it was shelved, for now. But I have a funny feeling that driving tax is going to be revisited. Critics say that and other fines, fees, etc. are designed to nuke personal vehicle ownership for all but the wealthy.
https://autos.yahoo.com/uk-inches-closer-eliminating-private-180000325.html (https://autos.yahoo.com/uk-inches-closer-eliminating-private-180000325.html)
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Pain at the pump will get worse before it gets better.
That's according to a new GasBuddy forecast that predicts the national average will rise to $3.41 a gallon in 2022, up from $3.02 a gallon this year.
That would reverse some of the recent relief American drivers have received as gas prices have slowly backed away from seven-year highs.
The GasBuddy forecast, shared exclusively with CNN, projects prices at the pump will peak nationally at a monthly average of $3.79 in May, before finally retreating below current levels by late 2022.
"We could see a national average that flirts with, or in a worst-case scenario, potentially exceeds $4 a gallon," said Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis at GasBuddy, an app that tracks fuel prices, demand and outages.
The call for gas prices to rise further in the coming months stands in contrast with forecasts from the government and some, though not all, on Wall Street.
The US Energy Information Administration said on December 7 the national average will likely drop to $3.01 a gallon in January and fall to $2.88 for 2022. Citigroup likewise predicted a "radical drop" in energy prices, including a potential bear market for oil next year.
https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/national/4-gas-could-be-here-by-memorial-day-gasbuddy-predicts/article_b052769e-68ec-59f4-a5bc-1d849940a8cf.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Sioux_City_Journal&fbclid=IwAR29HI44r_WZkPq2BeBcpmVTtS0zcT0Qo6xX1nMKOISI8Ffm-i-jJRabtsQ (https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/national/4-gas-could-be-here-by-memorial-day-gasbuddy-predicts/article_b052769e-68ec-59f4-a5bc-1d849940a8cf.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Sioux_City_Journal&fbclid=IwAR29HI44r_WZkPq2BeBcpmVTtS0zcT0Qo6xX1nMKOISI8Ffm-i-jJRabtsQ)
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Most people ring in the new year with colorful fireworks. Tuomas Katainen capped off 2021 by blowing up his Tesla Model S.
As Gizmodo reports, the Finnish man chose to detonate his 2013 vehicle rather than pay some €20,000 (more than $22,600) to replace the car's battery.
At a snow-covered former quarry in Jaala, Finland, Katainen, YouTuber Pommijätkät, and a team of "Bomb Dudes" strapped 30 kg (66 pounds) of dynamite to the white Model S.
Katainen was initially happy with the Tesla purchase. "The first 1,500 km were nice," he said in a roughly translated video (below). "It was [an] excellent car." Until, that is, he started receiving error messages. After a month in the shop, he learned there was no easy fix, short of replacing the lithium-ion battery, which would cost "at least" €20,000. "So I told them that I'm coming to pick [up my] Tesla [and] I'm going to explode [the] whole car away."
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