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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: MaximumSam on December 06, 2020, 07:26:55 AM
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Standings:
East
OSU (5-0)
Indiana (6-1)
Maryland (2-2)
Michigan (2-4)
MSU (2-4)
PSU (2-5)
Rutgers (2-5)
West
Northwestern (5-1)
Iowa (5-2)
Wisconsin (2-2)
Minnesota (2-3)
Purdue (2-4)
Illinois (2-4)
Nebraska (2-4)
Schedule
Rutgers at Maryland
Purdue at Indiana
Illinois at Northwestern
Minnesota at Nebraska
MSU at PSU
Wisconsin at Iowa
Michigan at OSU
So Northwestern has already clinched the West. OSU has theoretically clinched the East, except if they don't play their game they are under the threshold to play in the championship game, and while there has been some talk about changing the rules, right now Indiana would play. I don't think they need to change anything. The playoff committee doesn't care whether OSU plays Northwestern or Wiscy or Iowa, so there is no real reason to fool around. While the championship game is pretty locked in, these games will affect the seeding on who plays who during championship weekend and bowl orders.
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Talk about chaos. IMHO for Ohio State:
- About a 35% chance they play Michigan as scheduled.
- About a 35% chance they play Nebraska instead because M cancels on tOSU while MN cancels on UNL.
- About 25% chance they do not play either because tOSU has to cancel or because M cancels on tOSU and either no opponent is available or the cancelation happens too late to reschedule.
- About a 5% chance tOSU plays a team other than M or UNL.
Ohio State's situation with regard to the B1GCG under the existing rules as I understand them is that the Buckeyes are in if they play this week regardless of whether they win or lose but out if they do not play.
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Ohio State could theoretically have two undefeated seasons in less than ten years, without winning a "Conference Title" in either.
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Talk about chaos. IMHO for Ohio State:
- About a 35% chance they play Michigan as scheduled.
- About a 35% chance they play Nebraska instead because M cancels on tOSU while MN cancels on UNL.
- About 25% chance they do not play either because tOSU has to cancel or because M cancels on tOSU and either no opponent is available or the cancelation happens too late to reschedule.
- About a 5% chance tOSU plays a team other than M or UNL.
Ohio State's situation with regard to the B1GCG under the existing rules as I understand them is that the Buckeyes are in if they play this week regardless of whether they win or lose but out if they do not play.
Radio Mouths this morning was saying that all signs are pointing to TTUN and Minny canceling, (UofM's numbers went up again on Saturday) and that OSU/Neb AD's are working to alter the Rutgers/Maryland game so that OSU plays Maryland, and Nebraska gets Rutgers; instead of a rematch.
Again, just some radio heads; but they were talking like it was in the works and not a "makes sense" theoretical idea they had.
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Ohio State could theoretically have two undefeated seasons in less than ten years, without winning a "Conference Title" in either.
Has that ever happened to another team? ever? (while in a conference having Two undefeated seasons, but not winning the conference?)
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https://twitter.com/LandGrantTrophy/status/1335636757946257408?s=19
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Radio Mouths this morning was saying that all signs are pointing to TTUN and Minny canceling, (UofM's numbers went up again on Saturday) and that OSU/Neb AD's are working to alter the Rutgers/Maryland game so that OSU plays Maryland, and Nebraska gets Rutgers; instead of a rematch.
Again, just some radio heads; but they were talking like it was in the works and not a "makes sense" theoretical idea they had.
That makes a lot more sense for tOSU and Nebraska than a rematch but not sure UMD/RU will see it that way.
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Personally I would prefer to play Nebraska again under that scenario because of the optics (brand name matters) but any game will do at this point.
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I have heard nothing yet of minnesota football canceling this week or that cases are up again
I do know if they play vs Nebraska they’ll not represent what kind of team they are
Many back ups playing before they are ready
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That makes a lot more sense for tOSU and Nebraska than a rematch but not sure UMD/RU will see it that way.
UMD and RU can do as they're told
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OSU is a 30-point favorite over UM.
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Illinois is capable of defeating Northwestern.
If Illinois played more than one good quarter against Iowa, they would have defeated Iowa. After the 1st quarter of the Iowa-Illinois game, I did not know how Iowa could possibly defeat Illinois, but then the Iowa o-line started blowing Illinois' D-Line and linebackers downfield. The Iowa defense started taking care of business, too.
Illinois may have gained enough insight to understand they have the capability, but need to keep up the confidence, and pressure for an entire game.
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Iowa is going to have Wisconsin for lunch this weekend.
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Badgers should be getting healthy by now
but, playing in Kinnick - no picnic
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Badgers should be getting healthy by now
but, playing in Kinnick - no picnic
They were playing with their 4th string center last weekend. #1 got hurt early in the game. #2 and #3 are out. Hopefully they can get #2 back for this weekend. #4 got pushed backward all game last weekend. Mertz was in the gun almost the entire time, to give him an extra second - so long as he wasn't jumping up for the ball or bending down to pick it up.
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At least he could snap the ball.
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They were playing with their 4th string center last weekend. #1 got hurt early in the game. #2 and #3 are out. Hopefully they can get #2 back for this weekend. #4 got pushed backward all game last weekend. Mertz was in the gun almost the entire time, to give him an extra second - so long as he wasn't jumping up for the ball or bending down to pick it up.
This is why you need to make 1 of the starting guards the backup center. No matter who is out, you want to make sure you have the 5 best OL on the field.
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I agree, and I think we'll see that this weekend.
There are a lot of injuries/Covid on the OL right now.
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This week's games (as scheduled anyway) according to our emerging Power Rankings (https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/b1g-power-rankings-week-7-19255/14/):
- #1 tOSU vs #12 M
- #2 IU vs #11 PU
- #3 NU vs #10 IL
- #4 IA vs #5 UW
- #6 UMD vs #14 RU
- #7 PSU vs #13 MSU
- #8 UNL vs #9 MN
I don't think I've ever seen a week where all fourteen teams played and all seven of the higher ranked teams were at home.
The best games appear to be IA/UW and UNL/MN.
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They were playing with their 4th string center last weekend. #1 got hurt early in the game. #2 and #3 are out. Hopefully they can get #2 back for this weekend. #4 got pushed backward all game last weekend. Mertz was in the gun almost the entire time, to give him an extra second - so long as he wasn't jumping up for the ball or bending down to pick it up.
hah, have you heard about the Husker's center's issues with this?
only cost a game or two
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Purdue / IU game is on at 12:30 PM local time for me...
I think I'll read a book.
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it's the Hoosiers!
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so as of today the Gophers plan to put a team out there on Saturday
however the number of players out are "north of 20" out with COVID (within the 21 days protocol) Per PJ
plus out many players for injuries and opting out
just saying if you are a gambler it will be Nebraska against at best a JV team
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I wondered why the Huskers were 10 point favs
had to be something crazy
I was at the ass whipping last October in Minne
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Welp. Scratch off the game. And Purdue has cancelled practice. Indiana OSU Part Deux?
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Welp. Scratch off the game. And Purdue has cancelled practice. Indiana OSU Part Deux?
That would be interesting. Presumably it would be for the B1GCG slot.
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What if OSU and IU played again, and IU won? Then there is no H2H advantage between the teams.
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And why would IU agree to that game?
- If OSU can't find an opponent, under the current rules, they're ineligible for the CCG and IU goes.
- If they play OSU and lose, OSU has met the 6-game criteria and IU is now a 2-loss team.
- If they play OSU and win, is it even clear that they'd win the tiebreaker between them?
Makes much more sense to refuse the game and hope OSU can't find an opponent.
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The proper game should be OSU-TAMU.
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And why would IU agree to that game?
- If OSU can't find an opponent, under the current rules, they're ineligible for the CCG and IU goes.
- If they play OSU and lose, OSU has met the 6-game criteria and IU is now a 2-loss team.
- If they play OSU and win, is it even clear that they'd win the tiebreaker between them?
Makes much more sense to refuse the game and hope OSU can't find an opponent.
you ONLY agree to the game if the winner goes to Indy for the CCG.
take your chances
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And why would IU agree to that game?
- If OSU can't find an opponent, under the current rules, they're ineligible for the CCG and IU goes.
- If they play OSU and lose, OSU has met the 6-game criteria and IU is now a 2-loss team.
- If they play OSU and win, is it even clear that they'd win the tiebreaker between them?
Makes much more sense to refuse the game and hope OSU can't find an opponent.
An Indiana that beats OSU and wins the B1G = playoffs?
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Purdue-Indiana cancelled.
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Purdue-Indiana cancelled.
This is REALLY interesting because now tOSU and IU could play this weekend if it was PU and not IU that cancelled. Oddly, that would take tOSU from looking ineligible for the CG a couple hours ago to having a spot in the CG clinched (as of right now), to playing IU for a spot this weekend all in a matter of about two hours.
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This is REALLY interesting because now tOSU and IU could play this weekend if it was PU and not IU that cancelled. Oddly, that would take tOSU from looking ineligible for the CG a couple hours ago to having a spot in the CG clinched (as of right now), to playing IU for a spot this weekend all in a matter of about two hours.
Nevermind. Per SI it was a mutual decision based on rising COVID-19 numbers at both schools so presumably both are unavailable this weekend.
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Nevermind. Per SI it was a mutual decision based on rising COVID-19 numbers at both schools so presumably both are unavailable this weekend.
and unless they can curb it within a week next weeks games could be canceled as well meaning that would open the door for OSU to paly in the championship game if Indiana is hit with COVID
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and unless they can curb it within a week next weeks games could be canceled as well meaning that would open the door for OSU to paly in the championship game if Indiana is hit with COVID
That ship already sailed. The league changed the rule earlier today and OSU is already in the CG.
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What is FOX going to air at noon on Saturday? Their Big Noon Kickoff show would have been a lead in to their airing of THE GAME but now that it is cancelled, what happens? Other B1G games at noon:
- Illinois at Northwestern on ESPN2
- Minnesota at Nebraska on FS1
- Rutgers at Maryland on BTN
The best game from a ratings perspective might be IL/NU because NU is ranked but I doubt that ESPN would give that up to FOX. FS1, however, is a subsidiary of FOX so they could probably grab that but it isn't nearly the ratings draw that a game involving a CFP contender would have been.
Maybe they could move one of the 3:30 games up:
- Purdue at Indiana on BTN, cancelled
- Wisconsin at Iowa on FS1
- Michigan State at Penn State on ESPN
I wouldn't be surprised if the times for MN/UNL and UW/IA are flipped to give FOX a better noon game.
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Well, now I might watch
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/12/10/PDTF/d8059936-33cf-449a-ad69-ad334b4e623c-gruff.jpg?width=660&height=354&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
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Has there been any indication as to what game FOX will air in the noon slot in place of tOSU/M?
I'm surprised they haven't moved the UW/IA kickoff to noon. As near as I can tell that would be a lot better than anything else available to them. Has anyone heard anything on this?
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I have not heard anything.
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I have not heard anything.
Apparently they are going with Utah/Colorado.