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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: MaximumSam on December 02, 2017, 07:23:38 AM
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My wife is having some sort of girl's party tonight. I have staked out the sun room and put anti-woman traps everywhere to prevent them from taking over my man and dog cave. I may need help this evening in this struggle. Send all your best ideas.
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The roundup:
Noon: AAC Championship, ABC
Memphis v. Central Florida
12:30, B12 Championship, FOX
TCU v. Oklahoma
4 pm, SEC Championship, CBS
Auburn v. Georgia
7:45, ESPN, Mountain West Championship
Boise St. v. Fresno State
8 pm, ACC Championship, ABC
Clemson v. Miami
8 pm, B1G Championship, FOX
OSU v. Wisconsin
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BTW, even the MWC game is mildly relevant, as Fresno is one of Bama's ranked wins, and would be likely to fall out if they lose.
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My wife is having some sort of girl's party tonight. I have staked out the sun room and put anti-woman traps everywhere to prevent them from taking over my man and dog cave. I may need help this evening in this struggle. Send all your best ideas.
My best idea would be to get in your car now and come to my house and help me cook, but that's probably far.
Barring that, maybe invite a couple of buddies over and tell them not to shave or comb their hair. You all can rudely an loudly cheer for anything that happens, which might serve to get some of the girls to leave. That and possibly some (fake) drunken trips to the bathroom nearest where they are and if they are in the kitchen, a (fake) lean over the sink with some gasping action.
Hell, I dunno. Maybe they are nice girls. Sometimes it's good to be the only guy.
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I have yet to come up with a menu for today. Mrs. 847 wants me to make salmon patties out of the last piece of fish from this past summer's catch.
That, to me, is not football food. Maybe I'll fix them up for her and send her on an Amtrak to Max's house for the girl party.
I guess I'll figure it out when I hit the market, after the gym.
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No matter what happens today I'm hoping TCU whizzes in the Wheaties.Not because the Sooners worked tOSU or that it may help the Buckeyes.It would open up a whole other bag of snakes right out of the chute.The deck of cards would not only have been shuffled but then tossed all around the room.The committee would be reduced to flipping coins come tuesday.I don't think the Sooners will loose but the uncertainty that would follow would be rich :character0029:
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My wife is having some sort of girl's party tonight. I have staked out the sun room and put anti-woman traps everywhere to prevent them from taking over my man and dog cave. I may need help this evening in this struggle. Send all your best ideas.
arm yourself with a cigar
most women don't appreciate the smell and will stay out of the cave
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I'm taking a fist full of cigars to the golf course this afternoon
55 degrees and little wind make this fine December saturday an opportunity to play golf with the buddies
and too my delight, Tito's is on sale for $27.95 a handle. I'm stocking up for winter
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I like:
USC to beat Stanford in a close one. Ha.
Oklahoma to beat TCU rather handily, like 35-21.
OSU to beat Wisconsin close, 27-24.
Georgia to beat Auburn close, 24-20.
Clemson to beat Miami, 31-16.
I'd rather see TCU winning. If all that happens, I don't know who gets Slot Four.
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I have yet to come up with a menu for today. Mrs. 847 wants me to make salmon patties out of the last piece of fish from this past summer's catch.
That, to me, is not football food.Sure it is just have to pair it with a different beer than you would a Brat - see I'm catching on to this foodie thing Maybe I'll fix them up for her and send her on an Amtrak to Max's house for the girl party.I'm finishing thanksgiving left overs - not really.Having left over Eggplant Parmesan from last nite
I guess I'll figure it out when I hit the market, after the gym.I renamed the head Gym - I hit it all the time,so I have that going for me.Actually I stay in pretty good shape dodging lightning
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arm yourself with a cigar
most women don't appreciate the smell and will stay out of the cave
Charlie Sheen School of Chivalry right there
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arm yourself with a cigar
most women don't appreciate the smell and will stay out of the cave
I can't believe I didn't think of that. Maybe a pipe even.
And Mr. N.,
I don't care what you do to it. Salmon patties and football do not mix.
I'm thinking tomahawk beef ribs.
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My wife is having some sort of girl's party tonight. I have staked out the sun room and put anti-woman traps everywhere to prevent them from taking over my man and dog cave. I may need help this evening in this struggle. Send all your best ideas.
Break some wind,angry butt violence tends to send the message real quick.The most important thing how ever is the dog won't mind.You can crack the window open - after all I'm not a crass individual,you're welcome
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Passing gas is foolproof. Nobody will stand for that. Now, that may take it too far of course.
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I don't care what you do to it. Salmon patties and football do not mix.
unless you are in Seattle
but, I'd still prefer a tomahawk beef rib or better yet a tomahawk beef ribeye steak
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,angry butt violence tends to send the message real quick.
I'd rather not even see that in print
vile Buckeyes
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Can't be any worse than your golf game
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Mr. N has a way with words. This whole thread smells now.
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Charlie Sheen School of Chivalry right there
of course, pair your cigars with good scotch. plenty of it. Leave the bottle in the open to advertise.
Setting the volume of the game or the music loud enough it can't be talked over with the refusal to lower it when women enter the cave. Just smile and nod when spoken to and point to your ear and shake your head. Otherwise ignore them.
if the women think you can't hear them they will leave you alone
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Can't be any worse than your golf game
most folks would rather not see that, for sure
it's worse than the bad Tiger's swing
watching me putt will leave you feeling sick to your stomach
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Tito's on sale at the local liquor joint. $24.99/half gallon. Gonna get me some of that today.
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I have yet to come up with a menu for today. Mrs. 847 wants me to make salmon patties out of the last piece of fish from this past summer's catch.
That, to me, is not football food. Maybe I'll fix them up for her and send her on an Amtrak to Max's house for the girl party.
I guess I'll figure it out when I hit the market, after the gym.
Luckily my wife hates salmon and barely considers chicken to be meat. It's all beef and pork all the time. I have an idea of trying to make some dips and fry some tortilla chips. That way I can eat like a hog and help her entertain at the same time.
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Tito's on sale at the local liquor joint. $24.99/half gallon. Gonna get me some of that today.
We got some as a gift recently. It was fine, maybe I just don't have a taste for vodka, but it tasted like every other decent vodka Ive ever had, but the vodka drinkers I know swear by it.
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As for games, apparently Shaw probably cost Stanford the game last night with his goal Laine play calling? I watched some pieces but not a ton.
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Tito's on sale at the local liquor joint. $24.99/half gallon. Gonna get me some of that today.
saving $3/handle on me
I'll be picking up 3 handles
a handful of limes and a case of tonic
already stocked up on garlic stuffed large olives for martinis
oh, I need a jug of bloody mary mix!
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As for games, apparently Shaw probably cost Stanford the game last night with his goal Laine play calling? I watched some pieces but not a ton.
yup, when the defense is crashing the ends (safeties or corners) that hard, ya can't have the I-back 7 yards deep
the play was money at the point of attack
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As for games, apparently Shaw probably cost Stanford the game last night with his goal Laine play calling? I watched some pieces but not a ton.
I thought the controversy was the Stanford player was called down on fourth down even though on replay he may not have been down. I watched it and thought it was correctly blown dead when his forward progress was stopped.
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The roundup:
Noon: AAC Championship, ABC
Memphis v. Central Florida
12:30, B12 Championship, FOX
TCU v. Oklahoma
4 pm, SEC Championship, CBS
Auburn v. Georgia
7:45, ESPN, Mountain West Championship
Boise St. v. Fresno State
8 pm, ACC Championship, ABC
Clemson v. Miami
8 pm, B1G Championship, FOX
OSU v. Wisconsin
the AAC champ game will have much improved ratings as Husker Nation watches the future coach
I'm picking Frost's boys to cover.
I think the Sooners win by a couple TDs, easily covering the 7.
Georgia in a close one.
Clemson covers, Canes not that good and lost the big WR
Wisconsin wears down the Bucks in the 4th, winning a close one.
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I thought the controversy was the Stanford player was called down on fourth down even though on replay he may not have been down. I watched it and thought it was correctly blown dead when his forward progress was stopped.
the play should have been looked at more closely. He may not have been down. Wasn't listening for the whistle declaring forward progress. But, if he's not hit 3 yards behind the LOS he scores easily
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PAC-12 refs man.
Still, in hindsight the wrong call to go for it. I will admit being wrong because I wanted him to go for it too.
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I thought it was the right call, still do
wrong play or wrong positioning of the I-back
too deep
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Apparently, women usually dislike scratching. I don't mean of your nether regions either. They might tolerate the occasional brief scratch of an itch, but consistent scratching drives most of them nuts. "Why are you SCRATCHING all the time?".
You also cannot play baseball with scratching, including the aforementioned nether regions. You certainly can't hit a slider without scratching.
They also tend to leave you alone if you are, um, animated when a play happens. It doesn't even need to be more than a run off tackle for 3 yards. Just jump up and shout at the TV that the tight end was clearly down field and the safety was in cover two and that SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED and I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY MISSED THAT!!!!!
Do that about every third or fourth play, unless of course they actually understand football in which case you'll need to be more creative.
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As a drinker of gin, I've never been a vodka fan, but I do keep a bottle of Tito's on hand for visitors and parties. Plus crown and a few scotches.
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yup, when the defense is crashing the ends (safeties or corners) that hard, ya can't have the I-back 7 yards deep
the play was money at the point of attack
I didn't like that play-call--QB moving away from the line to hand-off deep in the backfield. A repeat of the 3rd-down call might have worked better. Or a QB sneak.
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As a drinker of gin, I've never been a vodka fan, but I do keep a bottle of Tito's on hand for visitors and parties. Plus crown and a few scotches.
Gin really is vodka, just flavored vodka. I can tell the difference between vodkas if neat. The best ones are not "oily". I also prefer gin, Tanqueray Ten would be my favorite, also neat or close to it, but with tonic in summer.
I also like bourbon, calvados, cognac, armagnac, marc, and whatever else gets distilled more often than not.
Marc de Champagne is pretty neat stuff.
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The roundup:
Noon: AAC Championship, ABC
Memphis v. Central Florida
12:30, B12 Championship, FOX
TCU v. Oklahoma
4 pm, SEC Championship, CBS
Auburn v. Georgia
7:45, ESPN, Mountain West Championship
Boise St. v. Fresno State
8 pm, ACC Championship, ABC
Clemson v. Miami
8 pm, B1G Championship, FOX
OSU v. Wisconsin
...and, most importantly, The Mac Championship game is on at noon as well.
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I also forgot Conference US at noon on ESPN2 - The North Texas Mean Green v. The Florida Atlantic Fighting Kiffins
Also don't forget Louisiana Monroe v. Jimboless Seminoles at noon on the ACC Network
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PAC-12 refs man.
Still, in hindsight the wrong call to go for it. I will admit being wrong because I wanted him to go for it too.
Nah. Going for it was absolutely the right decision, IMO. 4th and goal from inside the 1? Gotta go for it. USC just stuffed it. Not all good decisions are rewarded. Not all bad ones are punished.
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BTW, I will have the biggest "I told ya so" moment if TCU beats Oklahoma and screws up the Big 12 getting in the playoff. Stupid.
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Haven't really kept up on these, but with the SIM tourney next week...
Friday night Sims:
USC 26, Stanford 23
Was a shootout early, 23-23 at the half, then only second half score was an early 4th quarter FG for USC
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Apparently UCF has a guy on defense with no left hand, and he just had an impressive fumble recovery
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I'm coming around to 12 teams with 10 auto bids and byes for the top 4 to make all of these Group of 5 title games interesting
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I'm coming around to 12 teams with 10 auto bids and byes for the top 4 to make all of these Group of 5 title games interesting
Plus one. Conference races and championship games so much interesting when you can play your way in
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The menu is set. Homemade gyros, Greek potatoes, and this eggplant/squash/tomato/feta dish I like to make.
Done.
Gonna hit the liquor store and get some of that Tito's, and also some Uncle Val's gin (thanks for the idea MH) to make some killer Tom Collins I had at Adelle's in Nash Vegas.
Speaking of Nash Vegas..
I thought Max was gonna be THERE this weekend instead of at home hiding from a bunch of girls!?!
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I'm coming around to 12 teams with 10 auto bids and byes for the top 4 to make all of these Group of 5 title games interesting
Lotta NFL bound players bidding adieu fearing injury IMO
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As a drinker of gin, I've never been a vodka fan, but I do keep a bottle of Tito's on hand for visitors and parties. Plus crown and a few scotches.
If it ain't brown I'm probably not drinking it. I've started coming around a little on gin, but oddly only Tangueray
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I thought Max was gonna be THERE this weekend instead of at home hiding from a bunch of girls!?!
Attorneys man play loose with the facts.It's a gift I guess
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Rooting for UCF simply because I think that NY6 game will be more interesting than WMU last year or Boise three years ago. Nothing against Boise, but I have Boise fatigue as a mid major repairs as much as I have Alabama fatigue, without having anything against them either.
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The menu is set. Homemade gyros, Greek potatoes, and this eggplant/squash/tomato/feta dish I like to make.
Done.
Gonna hit the liquor store and get some of that Tito's, and also some Uncle Val's gin (thanks for the idea MH) to make some killer Tom Collins I had at Adelle's in Nash Vegas.
Speaking of Nash Vegas..
I thought Max was gonna be THERE this weekend instead of at home hiding from a bunch of girls!?!
That was last weekend. We had a drunken ball. I ended up watching Michigan-OSU at Acme Feed n Seed while eating chicken n waffles
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Attorneys man play loose with the facts.It's a gift I guess
Don't make me depose you
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Leave us posers alone
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I as well agree that Max should simply record the games, so that he can work on his manage et baker's dozen.
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I as well agree that Max should simply record the games, so that he can work on his manage et baker's dozen.
Looks like I may have to take one for the team
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I can barely keep up with this UCF game
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That was last weekend. We had a drunken ball. I ended up watching Michigan-OSU at Acme Feed n Seed while eating chicken n waffles
I do enjoy me some gyros. Never made them myself. Oddly when I was actually in Greece, finding a lamb gyro was nearly impossible. They were on every street corner, but almost always chicken or pork.
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Sooners up 17-0 early
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Not looking good for Bammer
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Memphis goes up on UCF
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is there anybody playing hotter than Oklahoma and Auburn right now? I don't think so.
I think those are the two best teams I've seen this year. Once the QB transfer from Baylor Jarret Stidham really settled into the offense that team just went up another notch. And Mayfield is so good it's ridiculous. I like Oklahoma to win it all. Mayfield is like Watson last year. Unstoppable.
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Just in case anyone was wondering just how bad the MAC East was
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UCF with 3 turnovers, including a pair of interceptions in the red zone. Down 7 at the half, and I don't think they've punted. Then again, has Memphis?
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Just in case anyone was wondering just how bad the MAC East was
Heh, using the transitive property of how each team fared against the Ohio Bobcats, Akron should be up by at least a million points right now.
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That looks like a touchdown
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The menu is set. Homemade gyros, Greek potatoes, and this eggplant/squash/tomato/feta dish I like to make.
Done.
Gonna hit the liquor store and get some of that Tito's, and also some Uncle Val's gin (thanks for the idea MH) to make some killer Tom Collins I had at Adelle's in Nash Vegas.
Speaking of Nash Vegas..
I thought Max was gonna be THERE this weekend instead of at home hiding from a bunch of girls!?!
Sounds amazing, but...what are Greek potatoes?
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He won't, but Kiffin staying at FAU, and eventually getting an AAC invite could be an East coast Boise. I think he's a perfect fit there, and he's in a perfect spot to do it. Tons of local talent, and being a second chance landing spot for P5 guys kicked out.
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Sounds amazing, but...what are Greek potatoes?
Potatoes the government buys for you with money they begged the EU for
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If limited to one intl cuisine it would be Mediterranean in a heartbeat.
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TCU should ask to avoid locker rooms, because they sure don't know how to come out of them. Oklahoma up 17-0 to start in a blink, now with a pair of scores in less than 5 minutes to start the 3rd. 17-7 TCU outside the first few minutes of each half.
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Sounds amazing, but...what are Greek potatoes?
Oven-roasted in chicken stock and a few other things.
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Mt Union edged Frostburg 70-37, in the D3 Quarterfinals.
The Raiders are headed back to the Final Four.
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Hell of a game in the AAC
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Idaho is up 14-10 at the half, in their final FBS game ever.
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If you're a Nebraska fan watching Central Florida Vs Memphis what do say for Scott Frost's defenses? Just abysmal these last few games.
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Wow
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Memphis on 3rd and 14 runs the ball for a huge gain
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This game is crazy
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Memphis started off rocky in the OT but scores first. 55-48 Memphis with UCF coming up
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If you're a Nebraska fan watching Central Florida Vs Memphis what do say for Scott Frost's defenses? Just abysmal these last few games.
You took the post right off my fingers.
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This game didn't need ot.
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With the way these teams are playing "defense" I probably would have gone for 2 on that score if I was Frost. Just put it away.
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I thought the defense was mostly fine. These teams are really hard to defend
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Lol, guy "broke" story of Frost to N.
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4th and ballgame
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This is a joke.
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Anthony Miller is freaking great
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Interception and that's the game. UCF goes undefeated and Scott Frost rides back into Lincoln bringing some hope
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Mcshay useless.
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Somehow I had the UCF QB and that Memphis WR on my college fantasy football team and went 3-8
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Sooners look like the first team in with another waxing of TCU
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Sooners look like the first team in with another waxing of TCU
they are my pick to win it all this year. Mayfield is so good it is ridiculous.
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Haven't really kept up on these, but with the SIM tourney next week...
Friday night Sims:
USC 26, Stanford 23
Was a shootout early, 23-23 at the half, then only second half score was an early 4th quarter FG for USC
Early games:
Central Florida 48, Memphis 31
Toledo 41, Akron 28
Florida Atlantic 47, North Texas 17
Oklahoma 30, TCU 17
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He won't, but Kiffin staying at FAU, and eventually getting an AAC invite could be an East coast Boise. I think he's a perfect fit there, and he's in a perfect spot to do it. Tons of local talent, and being a second chance landing spot for P5 guys kicked out.
I actually disagree. I think he's going to stay put there. Joey Freshwater is single and ready to mingle in south florida. He's getting paid really well, his entire family is down there including his dad. I think he's there for awhile.
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And now for some SEC SEC SEC
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And now for some SEC SEC SEC
Who do we root for?
I'm thinking Auburn. If they win then that kind of hurts Alabama's argument no? We already saw that match-up, and Auburn clearly dominated. That game wasn't as close as the scoreboard indicated it was.
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Who do we root for?
I'm thinking Auburn. If they win then that kind of hurts Alabama's argument no? We already saw that match-up, and Auburn clearly dominated. That game wasn't as close as the scoreboard indicated it was.
I think that's probably right.
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If you're a Nebraska fan watching Central Florida Vs Memphis what do say for Scott Frost's defenses? Just abysmal these last few games.
yeah that type of defense isn't acceptable at Nebraska. He better leave his DC there and go out and get himself one of the best DC's available. Just tell him to stay the fugg away from Don Brown.
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Auburn strikes first
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yeah that type of defense isn't acceptable at Nebraska. He better leave his DC there and go out and get himself one of the best DC's available. Just tell him to stay the fugg away from Don Brown.
I thought their defense was all right this year. Memphis was S&P+ 4th ranked offense this year, so it's not like they were allowing some crappy team to run up and down the field, and in the first game they held them to 13 points
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If you're a Nebraska fan watching Central Florida Vs Memphis what do say for Scott Frost's defenses? Just abysmal these last few games.
That Nebraska's defense can't get any worse
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Who do we root for?
I'm thinking Auburn. If they win then that kind of hurts Alabama's argument no? We already saw that match-up, and Auburn clearly dominated. That game wasn't as close as the scoreboard indicated it was.
I think opposite. If Auburn loses it means Alabama's one loss was to a three loss non champ. If Auburn wins it might mean Alabama is simply the second best team.
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I think opposite. If Auburn loses it means Alabama's one loss was to a three loss non champ. If Auburn wins it might mean Alabama is simply the second best team.
Also true. I'm not sure it matters much. My thought is that Auburn winning means the committee can't say a 2 loss conference champ doesn't deserve to be in.
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Somehow I had the UCF QB and that Memphis WR on my college fantasy football team and went 3-8
Just goes to show ya that coaching matters. :57:
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I think opposite. If Auburn loses it means Alabama's one loss was to a three loss non champ. If Auburn wins it might mean Alabama is simply the second best team.
Just got back in my sentiments exactly
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Give Mayfield the Heisman. The kid is a jackass but he's also the best player in CFB. That was a solid TCU defense he made look silly (twice).
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Give Mayfield the Heisman. The kid is a jackass but he's also the best player in CFB. That was a solid TCU defense he made look silly (twice).
I'm not sure it's even close. Love was dinged up, and Barkley faded hard.
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Mayfield is ridiculously good. Has complete command of his offense, calls a lot of the plays, doesn't flinch under pressure, and throws accurately on the move all over the field
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yeah I've never seen a Heisman year where one guy was just so clearly superior. Mayfield better win by the highest margin ever. He is just ridiculously awesome. Might go down as the best QB ever if he caps it off with a title this year.
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For all the pick plays that aren't called, that was a very weak call.
If the NFL called pick plays like that, Brady and Manning would have about 8 combined career TDs
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For all the pick plays that aren't called, that was a very weak call.
If the NFL called pick plays like that, Brady and Manning would have about 8 combined career TDs
Weak sauce. Bad call.
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OSU hoops kicking the crap out of UW in Madison right now.
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Weak sauce. Bad call.
agreed. Maybe ELA is right and an Auburn loss would hurt Alabama's chances of backing in so the SEC refs are coming in with the fix?
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Man what a punk that Auburn DE appears to be
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The Vandals won their final FBS game, beating Georgia St 24-10.
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Not sure where I stand with Jarrett Stidham as far as a Pro prospect. He definitely has the sturdy Matt Ryan build and the arm to boot, but it looks like he's always playing a step too slow, whether it's advancing through progressions, getting the pass out, or committing to a scramble.
Either way, transferring to Auburn was a great decision and with two more seasons of eligibility he's got plenty of time for improvement and racking up the number of starts that NFL GMs like to see.
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I think opposite. If Auburn loses it means Alabama's one loss was to a three loss non champ. If Auburn wins it might mean Alabama is simply the second best team.
I think that reasoning is solid. If you want to keep Alabama out, root for Georgia.
Oklahoma's thumping of TCU would give a little bit of help to tOSU if the Buckeyes were to win tonight. A close Sooner win wouldn't have been much help, if any, but that domination of TCU can't help but make the Buckeye's loss to OU look better.
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Georgia blocks a field goal and holds on to a 10-7 lead
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Give Mayfield the Heisman. The kid is a jackass but he's also the best player in CFB. That was a solid TCU defense he made look silly (twice).
Even if Tate started the whole season and Arizona went say 9-3 I don't think the voting would have been close. Mayfield is clearly the best player this year.
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Who do we root for?
I'm thinking Auburn. If they win then that kind of hurts Alabama's argument no? We already saw that match-up, and Auburn clearly dominated. That game wasn't as close as the scoreboard indicated it was.
This game has been sloppy and not really an ad for 2 SEC teams. That being said no matter who is the winner I can't see OSU getting in over Bama unless they win by say 30 tonight.
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Touchdown Georgia plus 2. 21-7
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This game has been sloppy and not really an ad for 2 SEC teams. That being said no matter who is the winner I can't see OSU getting in over Bama unless they win by say 30 tonight.
If Gawja hangs on Bama would have lost to a 3 Loss Auburn - not a resume builder.UW is in with a win tOSU 60/40 with a win
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Put a fork in Auburn
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I have a feeling that the Dawgs will be sneaking into the Playoffs this year.
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One loss conference champs are not sneaking in :96:
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Appalachian St barely got by the Ragin' Cajuns 63-14.
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I have a feeling that the Dawgs will be sneaking into the Playoffs this year.
It isn't sneaking when you kick the front door in.
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Mercifully, I think the Badgers will put an end to this shitty debate of Alabam/Ohio State.
But on the odd chance Ohio State does find a way to win, This Georgia win gives the committee an easy out to pick Bama.
With Auburn losing, there will no longer be a precedent for a 2 loss conference champion getting in. And they don't need to start one.
I have no problem with that, even though Bama does not have a single win over a team I think is decent. What will sting is having 2 SEC teams in and no Big Ten when I think the Big is a superior conference this season.
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Somebody upthread (I think) put it at 60/40 Ohio State getting in over Alabama in the event of a Buckeye win in the B1G CG.
I think that's about right.
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If Gawja hangs on Bama would have lost to a 3 Loss Auburn - not a resume builder.UW is in with a win tOSU 60/40 with a win
Auburn is still going to be a top 10 team. Its that Iowa game which is hard to overlook. One thing that might help was that the LSU-Bama final was a ratings disaster and they might try to keep 2 SEC teams out for that reason.
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Amazing that Chubb was able to recover from that seemingly career ending knee injury, a few seasons back.
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Georgia and OU in for sure.
Clemson-Miami winner in right?
So guess it all comes down to Wisconsin. They win they are in, they don't Alabama will sneak in.
Do the right thing Buckeyes. Take one for the team, don't let that prick Saban back door in.
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Amazing that Chubb was able to recover from that seemingly career ending knee injury, a few seasons back.
Yeah, pretty remarkable considering he's a a RB. I hope Grant Newsome has the same luck.
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I'm happy for Cincy Dawg and Mr Hoople is looking down with a big ole Southern Grin
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So guess it all comes down to Wisconsin. They win they are in, they don't Alabama will sneak in.
Do the right thing Buckeyes. Take one for the team, don't let that prick Saban back door in.
So win convincingly?That's a tall order
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So win convincingly?That's a tall order
OSU ain't jumping Bama IMO.
They could win by 50 and Baama would still get the nod.
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I got to thinking. I know. Dangerous.
The 1994 Rose Bowl was the national intro to Wisconsin Football. I said..
WISCONSIN FOOTBALL
That was the biggest game for the program in my lifetime. King Barry put the program on the map with that win.
Dare I say tonight's game is bigger? Is it?
OK Friends.
You tell me.
Is it bigger?
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I'm happy for Cincy Dawg and Mr Hoople is looking down with a big ole Southern Grin
Yes to both of those sentiments.
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Can't do it. Buckeyes need to try and win.
Speaking of Satan, any one see how awkward his was on. Game day?
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Badge, it's bigger.
Win tonight and Wisconsin is in the playoff playing for a national title.
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I got to thinking. I know. Dangerous.
The 1994 Rose Bowl was the national intro to Wisconsin Football. I said..
WISCONSIN FOOTBALL
That was the biggest game for the program in my lifetime. King Barry put the program on the map with that win.
Dare I say tonight's game is bigger? Is it?
OK Friends.
You tell me.
Is it bigger?
No.
If you lose in the National Semifinals, then this game would not be as big as that Rose Bowl win.
If you win in the National Semifinals, then the National Championship would be the biggest game.
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I think the Iowa loss is damning. Now, no one would've put money down on OSU getting blown out by the Hawkeyes, but it happened. Anyone want to put money down on ANYONE blowing out Alabama?
Wisconsin has all anyone could ask for - a win-and-you're-in game. If OSU wins and doesn't make the playoff, they have no one to blame but themselves. Lose once, you're on a tightrope...lose twice, you have no right to expect to get in.
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No.
If you lose in the National Semifinals, then this game would not be as big as that Rose Bowl win.
If you win in the National Semifinals, then the National Championship would be the biggest game.
This. Wisconsin's program was built on that season. No matter where it goes from here, I don't see it changing the program overall. Just like the 2013 Big Ten title game meant more to MSU than 2015
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I got to thinking. I know. Dangerous.
The 1994 Rose Bowl was the national intro to Wisconsin Football. I said..
WISCONSIN FOOTBALL
That was the biggest game for the program in my lifetime. King Barry put the program on the map with that win.
Dare I say tonight's game is bigger? Is it?
OK Friends.
You tell me.
Is it bigger?
I am completely agnostic towards the Wisconsin Badgers but yes tonight is bigger if you win because you get into the party tonight. You have never been in the conversation before so Go Badgers!
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These events do a great job helping the teams who got there, recruit even more for them.
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I absolutely LOVE that the two best bands in the land got together to perform the greatest song ever written.
Here is to a great game, and no injuries.
May the best team win, and...
ON, WISCONSIN!!
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I absolutely LOVE that the two best bands in the land got together to perform the greatest song ever written.
Here is to a great game, and no injuries.
May the best team win, and...
ON, WISCONSIN!!
Amen. No injuries, great game. Go Bucks!
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Saddle up gentlemen
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Pretty bland start for both teams
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Watching JT on that scramble, He did not look good running
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Wiscy going after the OSU linebackers,
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Bad idea to go after Denzel Ward. They were killing OSU's interior defense then made a mistake to try that.
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BTW, how weird is it that Bama has to root for OSU so they can say how undeserving OSU is?
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Heh didn't realize he was guarding Fumagali. Makes more sense
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BADA BING
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Best throw he's made in a while nice job
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Congrats to New Mexico State beating South Georgia to go 6-6 and qualify for its first bowl in 57 years.
Edit: South Alabama
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Poor Jerome Baker. I feel like he forgot how to play football
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Welp
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Hornibrook started out real nice then threw that pick in scoring position and now it's just kinda going down hill. He needs to pick it back up.
I get nervous every time Hornibrook releases the football.
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Of course he throws a horrible pick to the guy from Iowa
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Right....to.....him
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that was a bad play by JT but give that dude some CREDIT.
Hell of a play from Van Ginkel. DE who dropped into coverage and caught it and ran it back. Pretty great play by him.
This is what makes Leonhard SO f'in good. That's an NFL type defensive scheme. You don't see that in college much.
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Receivers showing some serious speed
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Receivers showing some serious speed
the one thing I was kinda worried about with Wisconsin besides Hornibrook's proclivity to throw INT's- wasn't sure if their CB's had the speed to lock up with the OSU receivers.
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That play was brought to you by everyone complaining that OSU can't do anything on screen passes
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Hornibrook looks completely lost out there
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Victor dropping passes again
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Hornibrook looks completely lost out there
he started out pretty nice. threw that pick and it's like he just went in the tank.
I'll reserve judgement though, because he was awful against Michigan for about 2 1/2 or 3 QTR's and then something just clicked and he was just on fire.
He is so up and down, it's kinda scary. When he is on, he is pretty damn good. When he is off, oh boy is he bad.
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That pop to the head should have been flagged
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BADA BING
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never would have predicted 3 explosive plays against this defense
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Btw how about the fact that Mike Weber is definitely faster than Dobbins
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Who was that DB that ran him down
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never would have predicted 3 explosive plays against this defense
maybe the defense was a little overrated because it played pretty bad offenses? I don't know. Can't say it's shocking to say the least. We've seen Wisconsin play OSU in a conference championship game before and OSU made it rain all over the field with their speed.
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Btw how about the fact that Mike Weber is definitely faster than Dobbins
I wouldn't say definitely.
Btw how about the fact that Mike Weber should definitely be the starting RB at Michigan right now you bastage.
Mike Weber, Damien Harris, and AJ Dillon were all committed to Michigan at one point. If we had just went 1 for 3. Damnit.
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O'Kornibrook
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Why is Wisconsin punting there?
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I wouldn't say definitely.
Btw how about the fact that Mike Weber should definitely be the starting RB at Michigan right now you bastage.
Mike Weber, Damien Harris, and AJ Dillon were all committed to Michigan at one point. If we had just went 1 for 3. Damnit.
If you remember Higdon paid JH a secret visit.JH told Webber he was the only RB he'd recruit.So sort of a wash between those two
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Good Lord
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Wiscy oline not holding up
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O'Kornibrook
he's not THAT bad.
he reminds me more of Speight. Mediocre as hell.
Badge told me Chryst was a QB whisperer though.
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If you remember Higdon paid JH a secret visit.JH told Webber he was the only RB he'd recruit.So sort of a wash between those two
I like me some Higdon.
But that was pretty dumb of Jim. Weber is a future NFL draft pick at RB. Not sure that Higdon is. I mean I think he can be if Higdon continues to develop, but I KNOW that Weber is.
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Great effort by Dobbins
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Man missed two touchdown throws on this drive
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Man missed two touchdown throws on this drive
Hope we are not going to regret that at the end of the game
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At halftime, the big difference is the pass rush. OSU is getting after Hornibrook and he is clearly bothered by it. Conversely, Wiscy has almost no pass rush at all.
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Meanwhile Clemson is putting it to Miami
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Yah. Concerned about missing those throws. I've been saying all week Wisconsin is for real.
OSU has 3 explosive plays to get the lead but the badgers are pounding. Lets see how much gas we have left in the tank at the end.
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Man missed two touchdown throws on this drive
Ouch. Looks like a guy who didn't practice much this week, but they say he rehabbed his knee 15 hours a day.
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Yah. Concerned about missing those throws. I've been saying all week Wisconsin is for real.
OSU has 3 explosive plays to get the lead but the badgers are pounding. Lets see how much gas we have left in the tank at the end.
The good thing is OSU has been rotating defensive lineman at a torrid pace.
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Meanwhile Clemson is putting it to Miami
honestly expected that. was never sold on Miami. They got way too much love for the ND win.
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The good thing is OSU has been rotating defensive lineman at a torrid pace.
yeah it's impressive how deep they are. like Michigan was last year. depth sucked for us this year. Hurst and Gary had to play so many damn snaps because of it.
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On those 'talking to yourself on the help line' Discover card commercials, the standing-up version of the Asian chick is super hot. Both looks-wise and her irreverence. Nom nom nom.
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another lost opportunity
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I was never a QB in HS, so maybe one of you could help me out with this - when they're 6 yards behind the LOS and sprinting to the sideline, no receivers anywhere, no chance at a pass play, why don't QBs throw the damn ball away???
They just take the yardage loss for no reason, over and over and over. They could underhand-toss the ball out of bounds, but no.
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Gut check time for the Bucks. Two terrible passes by JT the story. Can he change it?
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Gut check time for the Bucks. Two terrible passes by JT the story. Can he change it?
That, and a dropped TD by Dixon, and a dropped 1st down by Mack, and a dropped first down by Victor, and a fumble by Weber. OSU D has given up almost nothing.
If JT and company don't stop making self inflicted errors really fast, this is going to turn on them.
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Uhhh, so a strip of field turf rips up and the answer is tire bits? No sewing?
Did that field turf ripping up allow the TD to happen? WTF
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Turf gate?
Wisconsin has had the ball 10 minutes than the bucks, not good.
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The folks at Augusta National are laughing at this.
When an MLB mound is compromised, there are nine guys out there immediately. This poor bastard and his bucket.
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That last int by Barrett was pretty dumb for a 5th year senior. Throw the ball away. There was no way that Baugh was going to do anything with it anyway. Keeping the ball in play does nothing but give the defense a chance. He should know better.
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this game has been wildly entertaining.
24-21 with 12:39. Wisconsin has came roaring back. Time to see what these teams are made of.
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That last int by Barrett was pretty dumb for a 5th year senior. Throw the ball away. There was no way that Baugh was going to do anything with it anyway. Keeping the ball in play does nothing but give the defense a chance. He should know better.
yeah that was pretty much unforgivable. Not going to lie. And I like me some JT. That was definitely some John O'Korn shit right there.
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The folks at Augusta National are laughing at this.
When an MLB mound is compromised, there are nine guys out there immediately. This poor bastard and his bucket.
I know, right? I kept thinking, "so this is the only dude who can fix that?"
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The folks at Augusta National are laughing at this.
When an MLB mound is compromised, there are nine guys out there immediately. This poor bastard and his bucket.
I was thinking the same thing....like where are the other army of 6-7 guys to go help him.
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Surprised by the FG. Heck a turnover on downs is not the end of the world there.
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Surprised by the FG. Heck a turnover on downs is not the end of the world there.
Keeps you out of OT.
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I see Chryst punted twice inside the OSU 40 in the first half, which I never understand why coaches still do this, so not surprising to see him kick it here either.
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Keeps you out of OT.
Yet gaining two yards likely ends the game.
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Meyer now playing not to lose. With the bad throws JT's made tonight, can't say I blame him.
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That play had 50 yards written all over it too.
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Gulp.
Big Jim needs to get someone on the phone real quick.
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YES!
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congrats on winning the B1G Buckeyes.
Unfortunately I think you guys just sealed the deal on Alabama getting into the playoff. Bastages.
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Congrats to the Badgers on an all timer of a regular season.
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QB whisperer Paul Chryst with a performance out of his QB that had shades of Wilton Speight or John O'Korn.
Starting to think running that kind of pro style offense in college is a major disadvantage. They only work at a high level if you have high level pro style QB's. Those are basically impossible to find. The high school QB's aren't playing in pro style offenses, they are playing in spreads and air raid.
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I realize in game circumstances cause plans to go out the window, but I just can't believe Wisconsin had to throw the ball 40 times.
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congrats on winning the B1G Buckeyes.
Unfortunately I think you guys just sealed the deal on Alabama getting into the playoff. Bastages.
I hope not. However, I really don't want to see Ohio State in the playoffs either. I'm happy with a conf championship. If Alabama makes the playoffs, it will just demonstrate that the committee is bogus as Alabama lost to the only decent team they played this year. Unfortunately, I think it does come down to Bama and tOSU.
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I realize in game circumstances cause plans to go out the window, but I just can't believe Wisconsin had to throw the ball 40 times.
throwing the ball 40 times a game is fine if you have a really good QB.
When you have Alex Hornibrook at QB? That's not a recipe for success.
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throwing the ball 40 times a game is fine if you have a really good QB.
When you have Alex Hornibrook at QB? That's not a recipe for success.
That's my point. I'll admit I missed most of the 1st quarter, so I don't know how the rhythm of the offense looked early, but that looked like a different approach tonight by Wisconsin. No doubt, credit to the pressure OSU was able to provide.
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A good season and a conference crown
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A good season and a conference crown
and half that fan base still has problems with Meyer and hate on JT. Insanity your kind is.
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1st off: Congrats to Wisconsin. Man I like that team, Fumagalli is the real deal. I like the coach, real classy in the post game interview. I think they are really good, just came up a couple plays short tonight. Wisconsin seems to be a quality program doing it the right way.
Not to get too OSU centric; but it looked like OSU had 3 big plays to get points, and had 3 horrible turnovers leading to 3 Badger scores. I don't think that's a recipe for continued success whoever they play in the bowl/playoff.
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Not to get too OSU centric; but it looked like OSU had 3 big plays to get points, and had 3 horrible turnovers leading to 3 Badger scores. I don't think that's a recipe for continued success who they b=play in the bowl/playoff.
OSU is a very inconsistent Jeykl-Hyde team. Pretty damn wild actually.
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Surprising how far a team can go with a middling QB.
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OSU would've won comfortably if Barrett had any accuracy.
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OSU would've won comfortably if Barrett had any accuracy.
He made a couple WTF was that plays that are inexcusable for a 5th year senior starter QB.
Having said that, I will cut him some slack. Can't we give the guy a little bit of a break on his accuracy issues considering he's never had the strongest arm- some guys can just rip it without setting their feet because they have a ridiculous arm- see Stafford, Matthew or Rodgers, Aaron- but most of JT's throwing power/acccuracy comes from his legs/base- and the poor guy just had knee surgery 6 days ago. It was actually incredible that he was able to play at all if you ask me.
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Surprising how far a team can go with a middling QB.
Michigan got pretty far with one last year.
The pro style offense is such a disadvantage at this level, because when they shut down the run game and you don't have a great QB who can put the game on his right arm you're royally screwed.
Playing in that wide open, tempo spread offense where the QB can still make some things happen with his feet when they shut down the backs just opens things back up for the passing game. Those style of offenses put so much more stress on the defenses.
Unless you have a Josh Rosen or Sam Darnold or Andrew Luck on your roster at QB, almost makes zero sense to play that style offense.
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Badge told me Chryst was a QB whisperer though.
He is. I can't imagine what AH would look like without him.
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Surprising how far a team can go with a middling QB.
He will not be the starter next season. Jack Coan will.
https://247sports.com/Player/Jack-Coan-81368/high-school-141092
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and half that fan base still has problems with Meyer and hate on JT. Insanity your kind is.
I guarantee you Meyer's people are getting phone calls. All that success and people still aren't happy.
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He is. I can't imagine what AH would look like without him.
Yeah, I think he's a hell of a QB coach. I was just messing with you.
All I see is Harbaugh catching crap for his QB's, but there's only so much you can do as a coach with a marginally talented player.
Hornibrook isn't O'Korn bad but he's not far off from a Speight.
Chryst runs a scheme similar to Harbaugh's. Glorious when it's working, but starting to think those style offenses are too complex and too reliant on the QB for the college game.
I think coaches like Meyer and Dabo Swiney have basically developed the perfect offenses for the college game. Shotgun, no huddle, tempo, and having QBs that aren't runners first but can run- that's the way to go.
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I'm telling ya man, the loss of that TE for UW was a killer. Chryst had to use two freshman tackles at blocking TE yesterday to compensate, and neither of them have ever done that.
HUGE difference if Nueville plays, especially for Taylor. Big loss there.
I said all week the depth would be challenged, and it was. Big Time.
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QB with a decent run threat puts much more pressure on any defense
Frost will be bring that to UNL
no running QBs on the roster today, but Frost will be running the QB next season regardless of how talented their legs are.
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I'm telling ya man, the loss of that TE for UW was a killer. Chryst had to use two freshman tackles at blocking TE yesterday to compensate, and neither of them have ever done that.
HUGE difference if Nueville plays, especially for Taylor. Big loss there.
I said all week the depth would be challenged, and it was. Big Time.
how many TEs have the Badgers lost this season?
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how many TEs have the Badgers lost this season?
2, but this last one came at a terrible time. Nobody had a chance to get game snaps. Had they lost him earlier, it might have been better for the team. But still, you never want to lose anyone, of course.
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QB with a decent run threat puts much more pressure on any defense
Frost will be bring that to UNL
no running QBs on the roster today, but Frost will be running the QB next season regardless of how talented their legs are.
it's not just that, but the play calling, reads, terminology all that is much easier on a QB than the pro-style. Way less on his plate, things are simplified for the QB.
Most colleges now are running spread/air raid style. That's a big reason why so many young QBs come into the NFL and struggle, they are asked to do so much stuff they weren't in college.
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It's interesting to see B1G posters expressing doubts about smash-mouth, ball-control offensive strategy.
Despite the fact that OU introduced spread/air raid offense to the Big 12 in 1999, Mike Leach's one season as OC, I'm not a big fan of that style. It's hugely QB-dependent, and the skills that those QBs have to have include a lot of intangibles and immeasurables.
Baker Mayfield is the prime example. He's not big enough--supposedly--to be a successful QB at a big-time program. He got one scholarship offer from a P5 school coming out of high school--from Mike Leach's Washington State. Mayfield didn't want to go that far from home, so he walked on at Texas Tech. OU has had him for three seasons now, and he's been fantastic, and he's like lightning in a bottle. I don't think we capture that lighting again anytime soon.
So I have always admired the more run-based offenses, like Wisconsin's, like Stanford's, like Alabama's. I like an offense that can get one yard by running the ball when it absolutely has to have one yard.
Maybe it's a case of the grass being greener on the other side of the road.
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It's interesting to see B1G posters expressing doubts about smash-mouth, ball-control offensive strategy.
Despite the fact that OU introduced spread/air raid offense to the Big 12 in 1999, Mike Leach's one season as OC, I'm not a big fan of that style. It's hugely QB-dependent, and the skills that those QBs have to have include a lot of intangibles and immeasurables.
Baker Mayfield is the prime example. He's not big enough--supposedly--to be a successful QB at a big-time program. He got one scholarship offer from a P5 school coming out of high school--from Mike Leach's Washington State. Mayfield didn't want to go that far from home, so he walked on at Texas Tech. OU has had him for three seasons now, and he's been fantastic, and he's like lightning in a bottle. I don't think we capture that lighting again anytime soon.
So I have always admired the more run-based offenses, like Wisconsin's, like Stanford's, like Alabama's. I like an offense that can get one yard by running the ball when it absolutely has to have one yard.
Maybe it's a case of the grass being greener on the other side of the road.
Great post. The grass is always greener, eh?
I'm glad you like what UW does. I do to and it won't change until King Barry takes his last breath - if even then.
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I'm glad to hear that UW will keep doing what it does, Badge.
Of course, the downside to that kind of offense is that it's hard to come back from very hard behind. (We had that same problem with the wishbone in the 1970s and '80s, especially playing Miami in 1985-87.) The 21-7 point deficit that you guys fell into last night proved to be too big a hole to climb out of in the time remaining. If the game had had an extra 15 minutes, my money (were I a betting man) would have been on Wisconsin.
Settling (or having to settle) for 3 just before halftime was a critical failure. And having to punt the ball back to tOSU with about 3:30 left in the game after getting the 4th-down stop was another. You forced a 3-and-out, but you didn't have enough time and time-outs left to go 71 yards in grind-it-out fashion. So you had to put it on Hornibrook's back, and he's not the guy you want to put in that position.
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it's not just that, but the play calling, reads, terminology all that is much easier on a QB than the pro-style. Way less on his plate, things are simplified for the QB.
I don't buy that. Any offense can be very complicated regardless of scheme or very simple
I believe Wisconsin simplifies things for their QB pretty well
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I don't buy that. Any offense can be very complicated regardless of scheme or very simple
I believe Wisconsin simplifies things for their QB pretty well
I disagree a little. I think pro-style passing games are harder to teach and build. I also think they're harder to stop with equivalent level of talent and good execution. But when it's bad, it's BAD.
I see it a little like running a spread on the HS level.
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how many TEs have the Badgers lost this season?
To add to what Badge said, also lost the best two receivers they had.
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I was wondering about blocking TEs.. Easier to have 2 or 3 of them on the roster
really shouldn't have to move tackles to TE this late in the season
those can easily be walk-on player positions, big farm boys that like to stick their nose in
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He will not be the starter next season. Jack Coan will.
https://247sports.com/Player/Jack-Coan-81368/high-school-141092
I'm not sure if this a Badge knows or Badge hopes/thinks. If you don't want to put that all out there, maybe shoot me a PM?
I'm of two minds about Alex. He's fascinating because this year, he's done some things EXTREMELY well, and some quite poorly. His picks are a problem, his sacks tend to be massive and more frequent than you'd like (though not to an unreal level) and when he looks bad, it's bad.
But he's also put in a lot of high-leverage situations, and has been pretty good. Before OSU, Wisconsin ran the ball the 7th most in non-passing downs (1st and 10, 2nd and 3, 3rd and 1) and ran the 87th-most on passing downs. So UW often has him throwing when opponents know the throw is coming. Despite that, the Badger offense gets it done in throwing spots. When UW throws, it stayed ahead of the chains or moved them (before last night) 46.8 percent of the time, 16th best in the land. Against OSU, that percent was 44, better than the national average of 40, against a sold defense on that front. UW finished the year third in 3rd-down conversions, and wasn't all that great running on third-and-short. Could a ton of that be Fumagalli being amazing? Yep, But Alex was throwing those passes, and he was short some good guys on the outside (UW was not very explosive through the air, probably some on him, some on WRs).
I thought his yards per attempt might be instructive, but it dropped the last two games to 20th nationally. UW's good, non-Russell Wilson QBs (Stocco and Tolzien) were in the low teens or top-10 when Scott hit 73 percent of his passes. That said, when those two were Alex's age, Stocco was a hot mess and Tolzien was behind Evridge and Sherer, and would've been behind Phillips were he not redshirting.
That's not to say I lack faith in Coan. Kid was a better recruit than Alex. Kid was good enough (or Lyles was not good enough) he didn't redshirt. I hope the staff is so excited about him, he'll be a starter, and that he lives up to it. But I went through years of hearing Donovan was better than Stocco. Then when we got Donovan, he was no junior/senior Stocco, though he wasn't as bad as I thought in the moment. But as Donovan started, there were rumblings Evridge was actually killing it in practice. We know how that ended.
In short, I think Alex was somewhat volatile, but I liked his upside in his current environment. If that can continue without Fum and he can keep progressing, that'd be peachy. And if Coan can top someone that entrenched, it means he's shown a lot.
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I don't buy that. Any offense can be very complicated regardless of scheme or very simple
I believe Wisconsin simplifies things for their QB pretty well
you can buy it or not, doesn't mean it's not the truth.
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/8/31/16231484/quarterback-problem-evaluation-spread-dak-prescott-derek-carr (https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/8/31/16231484/quarterback-problem-evaluation-spread-dak-prescott-derek-carr)
https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2017/6/29/15824578/pro-style-vs-college-style-offense-that-is-the-question-alabama-michigan-spread (https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2017/6/29/15824578/pro-style-vs-college-style-offense-that-is-the-question-alabama-michigan-spread)
https://www.theringer.com/2016/8/24/16077158/nfl-spread-offense-quarterbacks-72148a036561 (https://www.theringer.com/2016/8/24/16077158/nfl-spread-offense-quarterbacks-72148a036561)
here's a telling excerpt from one of those articles:
Childress said the quarterbacks with the steepest learning curve are those who played in no-huddle spread schemes. He believes this is the one place where there can be only so much compromise: Because NFL defenses are more complicated, information-heavy play calls in the huddle are crucial. Spread quarterbacks, meanwhile, typically communicate with hand signals or one-word calls. NFL teams have attempted to replicate their college brethren over the past five years by occasionally opting for no-huddle looks as a curveball, but it’s still a change-of-pace exception, not the norm.
“[College spread quarterbacks] never had to say ‘red switch right closed end right split z halfback flat’ — they don’t know who to talk to when and when to take a breath,” Childress said. That’s hardly the only challenge: “You don’t realize how big a problem the center-quarterback exchange is,” Childress said, “until the ball is rolling on the ground at practice and you’re saying ‘Oh my god.’”
The game is constantly evolving, changing. And it's changed so much over the last 15-20 years, it's nuts. Last 10 or so years alone, only Bama and FSU have run pro schemes to win the national title. And only FSU was a really tuned up version of the pro style with option routes ontop of option routes, Bama's pro scheme was pretty dumbed down compared to that. Bama can get away with it because they've had the #1 recruiting class every year for like 9 years straight.
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Childress is an idiot
Tom Osborne's offenses were not simple
one reason freshmen didn't play very often
NFL style offenses can be simplified
spreads or QB run offenses can be very complex
if the coach wants to make an offense simple or complex he can do it
you don't have to agree
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Childress is an idiot
Tom Osborne's offenses were not simple
one reason freshmen didn't play very often
NFL style offenses can be simplified
spreads or QB run offenses can be very complex
if the coach wants to make an offense simple or complex he can do it
you don't have to agree
Ok.
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https://twitter.com/ENOUGHSENOUGH24/status/938470700444274688
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Harbaugh simplifying the offense was a big reason his 49ers team magically looked good on offense. NFL coaches have a habit of trying to make things overly complicated then blaming the players when they fail. The Rams simplified things this year and magically turned around everything, too.
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Wisconsin's offense is anything but simple. So much motion and so many formations and so many player groupings. It's a lot for a QB to learn, which is good and bad.