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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on June 13, 2020, 01:32:11 AM
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I was watching some highlights on youtube and got to thinking - who were the players who even if you did everything right against them, they were still too good and would beat you?
Right off the top of my head, it's guys like
Randy Moss
Barry Sanders
Derrick Henry
Ndomukong Suh
I guess I'm mostly thinking physical specimens. Moss wasn't fair, especially winding up in a place like Marshall and their schedule. WRs aren't supposed to be that tall AND that fast.
With Sanders, it was his agility/elusiveness. You're not supposed to be able to juke that much AND still get yards. Henry was just bigger than a RB is supposed to be and fast as well. Most big programs wouldn't sign him at RB, but he's shown he belongs there. And then Suh - a DL isn't supposed to be that strong and be a good pass-rusher. They're not supposed to dominate games unless they're flying around the edge.
What are some other college football-specific guys who were too good - who broke molds and did things you're not supposed to be able to do?
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i guess there's a lot of all-time greats like this, but I was thinking of more pedestrian players.
RBs who were too fat, but were just quick enough and would run over you:
Craig Heyward, Pitt
Javorskie Lane, Texas A&M
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Not exactly what you are talking about but my mind went to Chris Gamble. It wasn't just that he was good, as he was very good. But in that 2002 season OSU was having issues at corner and decided to give Gamble a shot. He was already playing receiver and returning kicks. He ended up looking like Deion Sanders and playing nearly every snap of offense, defense, and special teams. To this day I am still surprised more teams don't play guys both ways.
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William "Refrigerator" Perry
Jim Brown
Wilt "the stilt" Chamberlain
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Earl Campbel - on saturdays and sundays
Tim Tebow - hard to defend on Saturdays
Vince Young - Same,same
Brady,Elway,Montana
Lawerance Taylor
OK Coffee Break
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Today, Rondale Moore.
He's listed at 5'9" 180#. Runs a sub-4.4. Plays slot receiver, returns kicks, occasional carries out of the backfield or jet sweeps.
So you think "he's just one of those shifty little fast guys--we've seen that before."
Then you find out he squats 600 lbs, has legs like tree trunks, and is almost impossible to bring down. At 5'9" 180# he'll drag defenders for yards and often takes two guys to tackle.
There's no way that someone his size, with his speed and shiftiness, should be that strong and hard to tackle.
I'm pretty sure a lot of OSU fans think he's not fair :57:
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Nick Saban is not fair.
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Vick with his sheer speed. I don’t know his 40 time compared to other burners over the years but he looked faster running with the ball than anyone I’ve ever seen.
If he was trying to get around the corner he always just looked like he had a gear no one else had.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of OSU fans think he's not fair :57:
That's not fair - Bastage
Forgot about Vick he was good maybe similar to Lamar Jackson,better arm and not quite the same runner
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Orlando Pace
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Keith Jackson, the TE was unfair. Flew past LBs, abused corners, Safeties.
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Nick Saban is not fair.
*sigh* true. He's built a machine.
I actually always liked Alabama, and I still don't DISlike them, but I root against them almost every week, just to see other teams win conference and national championships.
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Well then stop dammit you're obviously the problem
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Heh, I'm not that powerful... :)
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Vick was like a video game player with too many attributes maxed out. He shouldn't be able to throw that hard and far AND run a 4.2.
His teammate sort of belongs on this list - DE Corey Moore. He was like 6'1, 230...and unblockable. So instead of his not being fair due to amazing physicality, his success didn't make sense due to his diminutive size.
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Today, Rondale Moore.
He's listed at 5'9" 180#. Runs a sub-4.4. Plays slot receiver, returns kicks, occasional carries out of the backfield or jet sweeps.
So you think "he's just one of those shifty little fast guys--we've seen that before."
Then you find out he squats 600 lbs, has legs like tree trunks, and is almost impossible to bring down. At 5'9" 180# he'll drag defenders for yards and often takes two guys to tackle.
There's no way that someone his size, with his speed and shiftiness, should be that strong and hard to tackle.
I'm pretty sure a lot of OSU fans think he's not fair :57:
He still haunts me. Like trying to tackle a ghost.
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Terrence Cody. In 2009 (Saban's only undefeated Bama team) I felt like Bama legally played with a 12 man defense because of Cody.
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Charlie Ward was a magician, escaping pass-rushers.
He'd escape a situation where maybe 8 out of 10 QBs would be sacked. But he'd do that like 4 or 5 times in a row, so if you took it all together, it defied reason.
And he did it nonchalantly, too.
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Derrick Thomas. Still holds, and probably always will, all three (Game, Season, and Career) Bama records in TFLs and Sacks.
TACKLES FOR LOSS
GAME
7 Derrick Thomas at Texas A&M (5 sacks & 2 TFLs) ............ Dec. 1, 1988
SEASON
39.0 Derrick Thomas (250 yards) ................................................. .....................1988
CAREER
68.0 Derrick Thomas (465 yards) ................................................. ..............1985-88
QUARTERBACK SACKS
GAME
5 Derrick Thomas at Texas A&M (38 yards) ............................. Dec. 1, 1988
4 Derrick Thomas at Kentucky (14 yards) ................................. Oct. 1, 1988
SEASON
27.0 Derrick Thomas (204 yards) ................................................. .....................1988
18.0 Derrick Thomas (142 yards) ................................................. ....................1987
CAREER
52.0 Derrick Thomas (408 yards) ................................................. ..............1985-88
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Didn’t Derrick Thomas have something like 7 sacks against the Seahawks in one game? He was a freak.
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Charlie Ward was a magician, escaping pass-rushers.
He'd escape a situation where maybe 8 out of 10 QBs would be sacked. But he'd do that like 4 or 5 times in a row, so if you took it all together, it defied reason.
And he did it nonchalantly, too.
yes, until the Blackshirts got him 5 times for 39 yards in losses in Charlie's last game in the Orange
I'm sure he escaped more than 4 or 5 times as well
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Didn’t Derrick Thomas have something like 7 sacks against the Seahawks in one game? He was a freak.
Yes. Also had 6 against Oakland. TEN years after his senior season at Alabama. Still going strong! He was not fair.
Most Sacks, Game
7.0 Derrick Thomas, Kansas City vs. Seattle, Nov. 11, 1990
6.0 Fred Dean, San Francisco vs. New Orleans, Nov. 13, 1983
Derrick Thomas, Kansas City vs. Oakland, Sept. 6, 1998
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Didn’t Derrick Thomas have something like 7 sacks against the Seahawks in one game? He was a freak.
Yes, and Dave Krieg ducked under him on the last play to throw a game-winning TD. He would have had 8 sacks.