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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on December 03, 2019, 05:58:11 PM
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Ryan Day was named Big Ten Coach of the Year
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Wow, didn't expect that at all. But first year taking over for Urban, I can see it.
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When Indiana looked pathetic in their win while Illinois and Minnesota were both losing last weekend it occurred to me that he just might have a chance. First Ohio State coach to be named COTY since Earle Bruce in 1979.
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I'm fine with this choice
I would have voted for PJ Barnum, but I understand it
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I'm fine with this choice
I would have voted for PJ Barnum, but I understand it
The media picked Day, the coaches picked PJ.
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mediots
the same group that picked the Huskers to win the West
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Well it was a good run. Day going into the ranks with John L. Smith and Ron Zook
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IT HAPPENED!!! OSU GOT THE PARTICIPATION TROPHY IT HAD SOUGHT!!!
(But only from media)
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IT HAPPENED!!! OSU GOT THE PARTICIPATION TROPHY IT HAD SOUGHT!!!
(But only from media)
Lol. My vote would got to PJF.
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Weird.
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IT HAPPENED!!! OSU GOT THE PARTICIPATION TROPHY IT HAD SOUGHT!!!
(But only from media)
Harbaugh finally sold them on a roster full of 4/5 stars not being an automatic champion.
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Well deserved for Day, but not for Barnum.
November Football is Big Boy Football, and Barnum proved to be a Pee Wee coach.
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mediots
the same group that picked the Huskers to win the West
Hey, so did I.
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I wasn't going to mention that
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Well deserved for Day, but not for Barnum.
November Football is Big Boy Football, and Barnum proved to be a Pee Wee coach.
Well, when your Sep/Oct schedule is pee wee, it tends to increase your hype... Then if your Nov schedule is Big Boy Football, it crashes you back to reality.
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Serious question: how bad a HC would someone have to be to have lost a game in Day's shoes?
The Minnesota Golden Gophers went 10-2 this year.
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Nick Saban was in his own shoes and lost 2 games
better recruiting than Day inherited
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Sigh.
As HC of OSU with OSU's schedule in 2019.
Resume.
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Serious question: how bad a HC would someone have to be to have lost a game in Day's shoes?
The Minnesota Golden Gophers went 10-2 this year.
Urban lost inexplicable games to far inferior teams than OSU. Day did not do that. Never even came close to losing.
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just saying, it's never easy to go undefeated
even for the GOAT
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Sigh.
As HC of OSU with OSU's schedule in 2019.
Resume.
What does this mean?
OSU had a very tough schedule. Much tougher than Bama had. Not even close.
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yeah, tOSU played in the best conference
Bama didn't
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Sigh.
As HC of OSU with OSU's schedule in 2019.
Resume.
Sigh did you watch the CFP Selection Show or were you too busy reaching for another beer?Or just trolling
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Sigh.
As HC of OSU with OSU's schedule in 2019.
Resume.
Penn State ranked several spots above Auburn in Massey Composite, Michigan ranked one spot below Auburn. OSU went on the road and curb stomped Michigan, while Bama couldn't beat Auburn. So the answer is not Saban.
Which begs the question, how many coaches would have gone worse than 10-2 with Bamas roster and a schedule of 10 cupcakes?
Going undefeated against a schedule that included 3 top 15 opponents, and never even being challenged, let alone beat, is a hell of a thing. Does any other team has three wins that impressive? Let alone doing it while not tripping up.
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Damn, man. I post about Day/OSU/Meyer's leftovers and you guys have to insert Saban and Bama and the SEC.
When will you get over it?!?!?!?!
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lol this is super revealing, guys
YEEESH.
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Serious question: how bad a HC would someone have to be to have lost a game in Day's shoes?
The Minnesota Golden Gophers went 10-2 this year.
How many coaches would go 10-2 with Minny's schedule? They had a big November upset at home, and lost to every other team with a pulse.
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Serious question: how bad a HC would someone have to be to have lost a game in Day's shoes?
The Minnesota Golden Gophers went 10-2 this year.
I think there might be 2-3 coaches that could have accomplished what he did.
Took a team team with a lousy defense and changed the coaches and scheme, and got the nation’s top defense. Took a pass happy offense that lost 3 WRs and a first round QB to the NFL, 4 offensive lineman, and inherited a QB with virtually no game experience, and created one of the top offenses in the country. Then, blew through a very tough schedule.
come to think of it, I am not sure anyone else could have done that.
Saying it nicely - I am not sure you are paying attention or maybe you don’t understand CFB.
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I think there might be 2-3 coaches that could have accomplished what he did.
Took a team team with a lousy defense and changed the coaches and scheme, and got the nation’s top defense. Took a pass happy offense that lost 3 WRs and a first round QB to the NFL, 4 offensive lineman, and inherited a QB with virtually no game experience, and created one of the top offenses in the country. Then, blew through a very tough schedule.
Not that they look that into it, but the job he did in bringing in the right guys to fix the defense alone was COTY material
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How many coaches would go 10-2 with Minny's schedule? They had a big November upset at home, and lost to every other team with a pulse.
sounds a bit like Ferentz
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lol this is super revealing, guys
YEEESH.
Your insistent need to say "resume" and then not actually look at it? How many teams have a better resume than OSU? None. A lot of coaches could have gone 9-3 or 10-2. But not many could have adjusted an offense on the fly to accomodate a completely different skill set at quarterback, while also making the necessary changes to a lousy (by comparison) defense, in the staff, to take a solid but not elite team, that lost arguably the best QB in America, and one of the best two coaches of this generation, and actually make them better.
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What does this mean?
OSU had a very tough schedule. Much tougher than Bama had. Not even close.
REE ZOOM.
Not resume.
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Jesus Christ, REEEEEE ZOOOOOM
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now yer spelling it correctly
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How many coaches would go 10-2 with Minny's schedule? They had a big November upset at home, and lost to every other team with a pulse.
In the past 15 years, the fewest losses MINN has had is 4. They didn't have an easy schedule in any of the past 15 years?
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Your hate for the SEC/Alabama/Saban is so strong, none of you considered what I put could be anything but dragging down the resume of OSU. No one sought clarification. I'm actually not an SEC homer. I know you'll scoff at that collectively, but it's true.
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The last season Minnesota finished the season with 2 losses: 1967. 'Nuff said.
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I wasn't hating on Bama or the SEC
I was comparing what Day and Fleck accomplished this season to Saban's season
that's a sign of respect
rezoom
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The last season Minnesota finished the season with 2 losses: 1967. 'Nuff said.
This is the first time they won 10 games. Ever. This is true.
Lost to their biggest rivals, in November, one of which was a beat down - at home.
Crossovers included _____ and Maryland. Squeaked by PSU at home.
Went to OT to beat Fresno. Beat South Dakota State by 7. Beat Georgia Southern by 3.
Easiest schedule, by far.
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sounds a bit like Ferentz
very much so. However, 3 of Ferentz's 4 COY's came with either a B1G or Division championship.
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I'd guess if PJ wins another COY's it will include either a B1G or Division championship
Was Kirk's first w/o?
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When Indiana looked pathetic in their win while Illinois and Minnesota were both losing last weekend it occurred to me that he just might have a chance. First Ohio State coach to be named COTY since Earle Bruce in 1979.
Well I was born in 79, so here's hoping that these events don't bookend my life.
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In the past 15 years, the fewest losses MINN has had is 4. They didn't have an easy schedule in any of the past 15 years?
True. You can't feast on cupcakes when you are one of the cupcakes.
Definitely a major upgrade.
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I'd guess if PJ wins another COY's it will include either a B1G or Division championship
Was Kirk's first w/o?
No, his 3rd. 2009, he finished 2nd in conference at 10-2, behind champ 10-2 OSU. And we all know you can't give a COY to OSU at 10-2, conference title be damned!
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This is the first time they won 10 games. Ever. This is true.
Lost to their biggest rivals, in November, one of which was a beat down - at home.
Crossovers included _____ and Maryland. Squeaked by PSU at home.
Went to OT to beat Fresno. Beat South Dakota State by 7. Beat Georgia Southern by 3.
Easiest schedule, by far.
This after-the-fact poo-pooing is gross. Squeaked by. Stop that.
Minnesota mattered in late November! That is insane! It's unprecedented in our lifetimes...literally!
We can crap on OSU for failing to go 11-1, but we may NOT do it to Minnesota. Shame.
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Your hate for the SEC/Alabama/Saban is so strong, none of you considered what I put could be anything but dragging down the resume of OSU. No one sought clarification. I'm actually not an SEC homer. I know you'll scoff at that collectively, but it's true.
Ya you're a beacon of universal insight and a voice of truth and reason.Only you in your snow globe of asbestos would state LSU beating Bama in T-Town after two weeks off doesn't prove they're better.So we should probably wait for your unrivaled intelligence before our less evolved cognitive abilities come to any rash conclusions.
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The troll getting trolled. LOVE IT!
and yet he continues to post gibberish, and thinks he is cute doing it.
Put me in the camp that is shocked that the media gave the participation trophy to Day over PJ, but also put me in the camp that thinks Day did an amazing coaching job this year.
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Damn, man. I post about Day/OSU/Meyer's leftovers and you guys have to insert Saban and Bama and the SEC.
When will you get over it?!?!?!?!
This one's barking,get over what?the boils on your bottom?Your Tourette's?Your testicles not descending?What is your major malfunction Private Pyle?Go find your reasonable,rational twin Crunchy and haunt an SEC Forum
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Serious question: how bad a HC would someone have to be to have lost a game in Day's shoes?
The Minnesota Golden Gophers went 10-2 this year.
This is sort of a vast and meaningless counterfactual. It wades into what amounts to a kind of negative space that exists around most sports.
The answer is probably not particularly bad. One of the best coaches ever had all the talent at OSU and managed it once, looking not super for parts of it. Really great coaches often didn't get to 12-0. Now Day gets a bump for the fact its his first year ever as a head coach. As we know, it's a narrative award as much as anything, less a sort of floating what if question.
(The idea of a "bad" coach is always interesting because usually to be a bad coach at a decent program, you have to be a good coach at a less good program. And ultimately even if you're average or above average, chances are you'll leave fired in disgrace)
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I think it is a great coaching job to assemble massive talent, keep them motivated, keep the backups "happy", take a talented QB new to the system, and have it all "mesh" so convincingly.
No other team had every win this convincing, no close calls.
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Yeah, the phrase "in Day's shoes" was lost on all of you.
It meant working under Meyer, learning from him, then taking the reigns of a bunch of clydesdales motivated and taught by one of the best HCs ever. Day's motivational techniques....where do you think they came from? His Xs and Os. The talent pool on the field.
Any one of us would have gone 10-2 or better in Day's shoes this year.
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Huh. I kind of thing this is the right result: one organization picking Day, and the other picking Fleck.
Both did a great job. Fleck's might be more of a career award because, yes, Minnesota crumbled at the end against the strong part of its schedule, BUT, this is Minnesota we're talking about, and Fleck has definitely--and dramatically--improved that program. If they remain a threat in the west, Fleck will have completed an impressive turnaround.
And yeah, Day took over the best program and kept it at the top, but--as noted--going 12-0 isn't easy, and Penn State, Wisconsin, and Michigan were all trying hard to knock them off, and none of those three is a patsy.
Who else? Lovie Smith for one big win? Ferentz for Ferentzing? Franklin for being second best? Chryst after the Illinois debacle? Harbaugh? LOL. Tom Allen for getting Indiana to a bowl game? Schiano for returning to Rutgers? Day and Fleck seem obvious to me.
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They should have a worst coach of the year award also.
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If there was a worst coach award, I'd think it would be possible for the same guy to win both best, and worst.
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see, I knew you liked PJ Barnum
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Yeah, the phrase "in Day's shoes" was lost on all of you.
It meant working under Meyer, learning from him, then taking the reigns of a bunch of clydesdales motivated and taught by one of the best HCs ever. Day's motivational techniques....where do you think they came from? His Xs and Os. The talent pool on the field.
Any one of us would have gone 10-2 or better in Day's shoes this year.
The bolded part probably means that either (A) everyone who responded to your post is a dunce or (B) you didn't communicate your question clearly.
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"A"
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You're the Old Reliable, Fearless! ;)
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I usually just speak for myself, but.............
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The bolded part probably means that either (A) everyone who responded to your post is a dunce or (B) you didn't communicate your question clearly.
Or (C) - I give people the benefit of the doubt to understand my meaning and I shouldn't, because that's on me. Even if you were to address a dunce, it's the speaker's duty to be understood.
I don't think anyone here is a dunce. The biggest fault I find (or suspect) is that many here are comfortably sitting in the ass groove they've created in their chair and have no interest in even trying out another chair (so-to-speak....now let's see who misconstrues this...).
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Heh! I think I'll leave you construing ass-grooves however you see fit.