OT - Nassar

[847badgerfan]

Why the F would she even go there now? It's done. Even with an appeal, he done. He's doing 60 for child porn anyway. This is VERY poor taste on the part of that attorney. Hopefully it affects her career and nobody would hire her, ever again.

[Brutus Buckeye]

It is sorta surprising that they ran this through the courts after he was already doing 60 for having CP on the PC. 

The odds of him surviving that sentence are pretty slim, I'd imagine. 

[ELA]

Yeah, I get that it's been hard for her, she's had death threats, and it sucks that people don't see the point of the job she had to do, and frankly we as Americans should be thankful that role is there.  But why go above and beyond like this?  Come on.

[MaximumSam]

Why the F would she even go there now? It's done. Even with an appeal, he done. He's doing 60 for child porn anyway. This is VERY poor taste on the part of that attorney. Hopefully it affects her career and nobody would hire her, ever again.

I don't know that people charged with crimes are looking for attorneys who won't defend them

[ELA]

I don't know that people charged with crimes are looking for attorneys who won't defend them

I think there's a difference in when you say it.  After all this, after sentencing, what's the point?

[MaximumSam]

I think there's a difference in when you say it.  After all this, after sentencing, what's the point?

Honestly, it sounds to me like she is defending all the people surrounding Nassar more than him.  That's an important message to put out, especially now.  He was a charming guy that everyone liked and was good at his job, which was why reports about him didn't go anywhere for so long.  In all these efforts to find other people to blame, they ignore the other victims, which were the people who defended him in good faith because they honestly thought everything was ok.  It may not be popular, but it is true, and that should be put forth whether people like it or not.

[ELA]

I don't know that people charged with crimes are looking for attorneys who won't defend them

Except even Nassar is like, nah, I'm the worst

https://twitter.com/DanMurphyESPN/status/959167667260329985

[Hawkinole]

This lawyer is very young, and inexperienced. That said, what experience could you have that would totally prepare you for these events. She is stating things now because she recognizes she didn't help him and possibly hurt him. There is very little lawyers in many states can say to the media -- until the case is concluded. But, without doubt, she could have done more to protect his image in state court.
From all appearances, Nassar is a guy mostly having high social intelligence. If you met him, most likely you would be drawn to him. She probably likes her client, and feels badly for letting 156 women give statements when that seems to have been a foible on her part, and she didn't anticipate how bad it would reflect on him. But who knows what led to all this . . . maybe he wanted that and felt he needed to hear it . . . but . . . that amount of publicity, even in protective custody, could endanger one's very existence in prison. Nassar has endured in this litigation more than most men could endure and not commit self-harm.
His life is in prison now.
I think I'd like to help someone write a book on preparing for prison life, someday. We see reports of suicides by people in that position. The least of us may deserve scorn. But the very least of us may also deserve compassion, as well.
Almost all of us have capacity for redemption, and to improve the lives of others, as well as our own. I hope Nassar can in some way redeem himself, but if that happens there will be little fanfare about it.

[PSUinNC]

Great post!
I’ll happily admit that I was in the camp of burn PsU to the ground solely because I felt many supporting PSU were making football more important than the protection of innocent children. Priorities seemed backwards and it made me sick. I’m not saying our PSU posters on the board were at that level, but there were many PSU fans/alumni that felt protecting Paterno and his legacy was more important than the innocence of children.
Based on the current state of PSU football, one could argue they got a slap on the wrist. Think that’s unfair, ask the victims if they got over their abuse as quickly as the program and school recovered.

So, basically, the two situations are not analogous and Michigan State University is in the clear of being complicit with what Larry Nassar was doing?

[Geolion91]

I don't know if it is that complicated.  Child molesters are pretty much the lowest of the low.  Sandusky and Nassar are child molesters.  However, there was a lot of smoke that something was going on that wasn't reported.  Sandusky wasn't just some random dude - he worked closely with Paterno for years.  

Nassar is a similar monster, but I don't know what that has to do with Izzo and Dantonio.  The OTL report seems like it was trying to piggy back domestic violence and sexual violence onto Nassar's crimes.  That makes no sense.  Most of the reports were investigated by law enforcement or MSU's administration separate from the coaches.  

To me the difference is that you can very clearly draw a straight line in the PSU case between inaction by the people in the football program and Sandusky, and there is no line between Nassar and people in the popular sports at MSU.

Yes and no.  Sandusky retired from coaching in 1998, or 1999, not sure which.  After that he was no longer an active coach under Paterno, it was also well known that he and Paterno were not really friendly towards each other.  Paterno kept him there because he was a good coach.
Actually, what bothers me most about the PSU scandal is that a lot of people that hated PSU already were twisting the facts.  I had seen many message board posts, blogs, etc. claiming that Paterno was a molester.
I think the BoT used the scandal as an excuse to fire Paterno, they had been at odds with him for several years.  I think he should have stepped down anyway, as he had said would, but the BoT made a big show of firing him out of spite.

[Hawkinole]

It is potentially hurtful to an investigation to have an Attorney General probing sexual abuse issues in a highly public way while running for governor. Here is a quotable quote if there ever were one:

“What you have is an attorney general running for governor,” said John Truscott, speaking on behalf on the new president, former Michigan Gov. John Engler.

Almost makes your head spin how politically charged this could become. Is the investigator trying to help his campaign and get publicity for it? Or, he is ferreting out crime. I am not so sure there is crime to ferret out here. What is needed is an independent outside investigation for the public to have confidence in it, under the circumstances. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/michigan-ag-has-police-seize-evidence-msu-over-nassar-scandal-n844331

[ELA]

Wasn't that the issue in the Duke lacrosse scandal too?  I seem to recall something about the political ambitions of the DA there.

[Brutus Buckeye]

Heh, Nancy Grace et al were just relentless with the Duke Lacrosse case. Nonstop, for like six months. Then when it all turned out to be BS, they quietly moved onto the next hot button topic without so much as an apology. 

[847badgerfan]

Heh, Nancy Grace et al were just relentless with the Duke Lacrosse case. Nonstop, for like six months. Then when it all turned out to be BS, they quietly moved onto the next hot button topic without so much as an apology.

I have no use for that woman.