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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #686 on: November 17, 2018, 10:23:10 AM »
yup, slim chance it came from the stadium, but......... it's undeniably a Husker balloon
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #687 on: November 17, 2018, 05:30:55 PM »
6 possessions, 42 points.  Nice long throw by Fields.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #688 on: November 18, 2018, 08:41:37 AM »
yup, slim chance it came from the stadium, but......... it's undeniably Husker Pollution
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #689 on: November 18, 2018, 10:48:20 AM »
A typical balloon is made out of a rubber, which means it is basically polyisoprene crosslinked with something, often sulfur.

Polyisoprene biodegrades readily, which is good since trees make the stuff.  It actually photodegrades quickly and then the pieces biodegrade.

Crosslinking it slows this considerably, which is good because our tires are made of it.  But even tires oxidize over time.  An old tire with good tread can be very slippery on the road.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #690 on: November 18, 2018, 10:57:03 AM »
A typical balloon is made out of a rubber, which means it is basically polyisoprene crosslinked with something, often sulfur.

Polyisoprene biodegrades readily, which is good since trees make the stuff.  It actually photodegrades quickly and then the pieces biodegrade.

Was watching investigators break down suspects in the DB Cooper case.When that kid found some stacked/wrapped bills on a Columbia River beach in 1980.They surmise they were indeed planted long after the hijacking because of the rubber bands still on them.Don't know if they ever proved that however - prolly the last relevant segment the History Channel ever did
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #691 on: November 18, 2018, 11:00:24 AM »
We've all had old rubber bands break on us I suspect.  That's due to oxidation and embrittlement.

I once worked on a project to replace the polymers we were using with some kind of polyisoprene analog.  It was interesting but the issues were overwhelming.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #692 on: November 18, 2018, 11:15:10 AM »
Investigators thought the rubber was in too good of shape to be from 1971.You should have used polyisoprene digital - problem solved ;-b
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #693 on: March 13, 2019, 05:05:46 PM »
Bump.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #694 on: March 13, 2019, 07:31:38 PM »
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/433886-un-report-finds-globe-is-past-the-point-of-halting-temperature-rise

If this is close to being predictive, things are headed into problematic territory.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #695 on: March 13, 2019, 07:32:03 PM »
you found it!!!
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #696 on: March 13, 2019, 08:29:17 PM »
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/433886-un-report-finds-globe-is-past-the-point-of-halting-temperature-rise

If this is close to being predictive, things are headed into problematic territory.
Yeah, it's a real cluster of a problem.
Some say "Why try?" if it appears impossible. In some ways that's fair. And not worrying our pretty little heads certainly fits our patterns of selling out for short-term gains. That part - "our patterns" - reminds me to consider human nature again, as if we were always destined to create and suffer this mess. I'm not actually that cynical, but I'll forgive someone who is. In fact, that whole idea has interesting things to say about what we can be blamed or forgiven for if bankrolling Nature (ad infinitum) was always in our nature.
Nevertheless, and even if it is forgivable, obviously Not Trying Because "Why Try? It's Impossible" is irresponsible. Irresponsible in several veins: in terms of general stewardship**, it terms of staying max-prepared in case our models are only slightly too pessimistic (that it's actually not impossible), and also in terms of "too much bad news" being quantitatively better than "even more too much bad news."
In any event, it's weird how, without the facts of the Earth really changing at all, in the matter of the last two months, the idea of this getting so bad it becomes a true national emergency is now forever more complicated, in American politics.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #697 on: March 13, 2019, 08:45:52 PM »
Got up to 62 in the late afternoon today,tomorrow close to 70.Fri/Sat down to 30 and snow
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #698 on: March 13, 2019, 08:46:23 PM »
[I forgot the footnote which is good in this case because it deserves to be its own thing]

**(Because this is such a polarizing concept, and because successfully curtailing emissions probably requires the vast majority of Americans to point in the same direction regardless of partisanship, that word "Stewardship" is going to be a major fulcrum. Slowing climate change (or at least contributing to it less, polluting less, etc.) can never be realistic if conservatives don't LOVE the idea equally as progressives. And that will require conservatives pointing in the same direction, albeit for their own reasons. I think this is as inevitable as it is good. In fact, I think there's already evidence that it's happening. Often using Christianity as anchor, there is a palpable uptick in right-of-center organizations arguing for slowing emissions (as well as curbing single-use plastics, deforestation, etc.) in the name of living up to the responsibilities of dominion over God's Earth. And it isn't all kumbaya or handwaving. In fact, in Utah last year, the conservative state senate took up significant climate change legislation because their minds were changed by the arguments of Mormon youth calling for better respecting the planet God gave them. Surely that's not yet enough to change the world. We're still not on track to stave off catastrophe. But washing this thing of identity politics and making it multilateral is a CRUCIAL step in us having a chance at all)
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #699 on: March 13, 2019, 08:53:14 PM »
crazy flooding here

warm weather melting snow along with rain and then the biggest factor of the ground being frozen, so everything runs off.  nothing soaking in

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