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MikeDeTiger

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Re: LSU @ Florida
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2017, 04:46:28 PM »
It's tough to know right now.  Any offense is going to be predicated on the O-line blocking somebody, and right now ours just can't.  

BYU and Florida are the only times where I've watched and thought I could follow along with the thought process.  The motions and shifts definitely affected BYU's linebackers and made them hesitant.  Florida seemed to want to avoid that by being committed in the middle and count on (I guess) LSU's tackles to fail to set the edge vs. Florida's speedy guys.  So what we got was LSU couldn't run in the A gaps, and the jet sweeps worked pretty well. 

The main problem for us is Etling isn't that great at reading his keys on a couple of the offense's staples.  Canada's playcalling remains a bit of a mystery because LSU has yet to accomplish the basics.  

It gave Clemson hell last year, which was a good defense, and Penn State too, which was a decent defense.  More talented than Pitt anyway.  What I'm not sure about is after a year or two when everybody's seen it, will it still be viable?  My guess is with the right mind behind it, sure.  Pretty much any offense faces that problem as DC's adjust and re-scheme.  A good OC will have to keep evolving to remain productive.  I don't know that Canada has stayed anywhere long enough to find out.  

It does come across as video gamey, but LSU will have to run it much better before I made any judgements.  So far it looks a lot like most other sets....it might rack up yards and points against less talented or less disciplined teams....against a great defense the QB is going to have to be able to make a 3rd or 4th read and not panic.  

If the QB merely lives through Auburn this week, I'll consider it a win.  

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Re: LSU @ Florida
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2017, 01:45:48 PM »
I guess LSU has to be accorded a shot hosting Auburn?

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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2017, 02:06:49 PM »
Not if they play like they did vs Florida.  LSU and Florida don't have talent issues, they have 'everything else' issues.  So someone can technically say they have the talent to beat Georgia or Auburn or Bama, but in reality, it's false.  The 'everything else' matters A LOT.  
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2017, 05:17:32 PM »
It's kind of a shame these two teams suck so bad right now.  A sense of somewhat of a budding actual rivalry--not some contrived BS--permeates the fans these days.  

No secret these two schools have never cared much about being stuck together, they just went along with it because everyone else (read:  Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, and Auburn) wanted them to.  

Both parties have said and done enough to each other in the last few years that the fans have begun to consider it legitimate faux pas and are starting to take each other seriously.....actually looking forward to the game as more than a seasonal test.  Starting to be more rivalry-related animosity and more satisfaction from a win than just "oh hey, we won that game.  Neat."  

Unfortunately it's not very good football.  Imagine if the 2006 and 2007 teams could have actually had some fire to them when they clashed.  Hell, immediately after winning the '06 NC, UF DE Derrick Harvey flat out complimented LSU.  I don't remember why, but Urban was on the sidelines for LSU's '07 NC and one of our linemen was playfully patting Meyer's head and hugging him during the interviews.  There's nothing "rivalry" about that.  

It's not like Auburn or Ole Miss, but it's something.  Sadly neither team is high quality anymore.  

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Re: LSU @ Florida
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2017, 09:09:12 PM »
Can you imagine 4 schools holding the rest of the conference hostage for something now?  It'd get shot down in 2 seconds.
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Re: LSU @ Florida
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2017, 05:32:24 AM »
Not if they play like they did vs Florida.  LSU and Florida don't have talent issues, they have 'everything else' issues.  So someone can technically say they have the talent to beat Georgia or Auburn or Bama, but in reality, it's false.  The 'everything else' matters A LOT.  
The "talent" aspect may be associated with one rather important position in football, not across the board, same with Tennessee.
Missouri has some talent at that position, but it availeth them not.

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Re: LSU @ Florida
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2017, 11:15:00 AM »
It's not that.  

LSU has 1) major depth problems on both lines, and 2) "everything else" problems.  

We got away with a bunch of true freshman on O-line against Florida.  We got away with a DE who played every single snap because there's not enough bodies to rotate.  Unless Auburn completely implodes in the trenches by an act of God, they should beat us pretty handily.  

 

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