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847badgerfan

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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2018, 01:50:57 PM »
Doesn't Illinois bring in the St. Louis market for BTN? Thought I read that somewhere.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2018, 02:24:39 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 17, 2018, 01:50:57 PM
Doesn't Illinois bring in the St. Louis market for BTN? Thought I read that somewhere.
It didn't initially have it. It may have been added if there was a high enough demand. That football map says the city belongs to Missouri. So BTN could ask for more money to keep coverage in the city.

BTN In Network Rate on average is like a $1.50. Out of Network Rate is about $0.15. Lot more money if they can prove the market is In Network.

This is one reason I actually argue against Rutgers and the NYC market. Across all of Ohio Subscribers pay $1.85, but in NYC they pay $0.18. Heck of a lot of people in NYC able to see games, but more money comes from the Midwest.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2018, 09:25:03 PM »
For those who think the 4x16 look with pods is too NFL-ish for you, keep in mind one thing.  The NFL system almost guarantees 9-7 or 10-6 teams get into the playoffs.  

In the 4x16 setup, only the conference champions would get in.  So while they could schedule tough OOC, I assume they'll mostly schedule the same as they do now - want some gimmies mixed in with some challenges, and we'd have only 12-0, 11-1, or 10-2 type teams getting into the 4-team playoff.

Normally, in the current setup, I'm against a conference champs-only playoff, but in the 4x16 scenario, all teams are on equal footing.  All have an equal chance from the start, and all will have worthwhile schedule strength.  
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #143 on: March 17, 2018, 10:32:02 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 17, 2018, 09:25:03 PM
Normally, in the current setup, I'm against a conference champs-only playoff, but in the 4x16 scenario, all teams are on equal footing.  All have an equal chance from the start, and all will have worthwhile schedule strength.  
All P5 (or Super 4?) Conferences play:
3 OOC - No FCS, 1 needs to be P5
9 Conference games
Divisions winners get to add a tough 
1 CCG


I would buy into that.
I really want all P5 conferences to to play like minded schedules. If that means they all play 8 games or 9 (I prefer 9) then they all do it.
No FCS, 1 FCS (prefer none) then all do it.
Must Play 1 P5 H-H or H-H-N, or N, or don't just keep the schedules closer so we can he fans can get a better feel for who actually is performing the best.
It makes me mad to see SEC playing FCS the 2nd to last week of the season. It's smart they do it, real smart kudos for their schedule. But so annoying no one else is doing it so there is an artificial harder season end for the other  P5. I would like it if all conferences had to play on a level field (as level as we can schedule it.)
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #144 on: March 17, 2018, 10:57:06 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 17, 2018, 01:50:57 PM
Doesn't Illinois bring in the St. Louis market for BTN? Thought I read that somewhere.
Honestly, do you actually care?  This is the worst problem with the current expansion/realignment discussions, every random college football fan attempts to become an expert in Nielsen ratings and television revenue markets.
If you actually care about that crap, then you're a pretty pathetic college football fan.  Just my opinion, of course.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #145 on: March 18, 2018, 12:04:01 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 17, 2018, 10:57:06 PM
Honestly, do you actually care?  This is the worst problem with the current expansion/realignment discussions, every random college football fan attempts to become an expert in Nielsen ratings and television revenue markets.
If you actually care about that crap, then you're a pretty pathetic college football fan.  Just my opinion, of course.
Well I don't want to be a pathetic college football fan...
But with ratings come eyeballs. With eyeballs comes recruiting. There is more to expansion than just TV dollars. 
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #146 on: March 18, 2018, 01:32:04 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 17, 2018, 10:57:06 PM
Honestly, do you actually care?  This is the worst problem with the current expansion/realignment discussions, every random college football fan attempts to become an expert in Nielsen ratings and television revenue markets.
If you actually care about that crap, then you're a pretty pathetic college football fan.  Just my opinion, of course.
heck no, all any of us really care about is wins and losses for our favorite team
unfortunately, there is a correlation with winning and money
longhorn fans understand this
I don't think Horn fans care too much about leading the nation in $$$, but it probably does help with wins and losses
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #147 on: March 18, 2018, 08:52:16 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 18, 2018, 01:32:04 AM

I don't think Horn fans care too much about leading the nation in $$$, but it probably does help with wins and losses
Money helps Texas with wins and losses?


Anyway, I do care about the BTN and ratings, only because I happen to think that it will be the only way to see my favorite team in the near future. I'm not sure why that would make me a pathetic fan.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #148 on: March 18, 2018, 11:04:16 AM »
BTN2Go
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« Reply #149 on: March 18, 2018, 11:56:49 AM »
Yep. I use it quite a bit in the harbor.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #150 on: March 18, 2018, 12:03:44 PM »
I also have "watchTVeverywhere"

I'm old and do prefer my 50 inch TV in front of my recliner - and I can stream to it.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #151 on: March 18, 2018, 04:46:06 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 18, 2018, 08:52:16 AM
I'm not sure why that would make me a pathetic fan.
Not sure you were the one getting called pathetic.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #152 on: March 20, 2018, 02:50:47 PM »
So if tOSU and Michigan got to make the B10 pods in the 16-school version of the conference, how would they do it?  Would they want annual big games or would they put themselves in with 3 patsies?  Does it matter all that much if they play every other school at least every other year?

I'm asking for (gulp) realism-sake.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #153 on: March 20, 2018, 02:53:55 PM »
OSU and Michigan in the same 4-team pod?

or locked annual rivalry games between pods to really complicate things?
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