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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2018, 03:14:52 PM »
MSU submitted an expedited review to the NCAA compliance office and Bridges was cleared to play.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2018, 03:19:54 PM »
I don’t know that good is the word that comes to mind. By no means do I see Michigan State or Indiana in Arizona’s situation. But.....

To me it’s concerning that one of the main guys caught up in this is categorized from the documents as:

“documents indicate that Dawkins spent considerable time in contact with the Bridges family and with Spartans assistant coach Dwayne Stephens.”

If the guy is proposing dirty business why not tell him to bug off? Why is an open line between the two being presented here.

The strong connectivity with this runner doesn’t smell right. 

I need to stick with NCAA DIII fandom. Although, even that is losing some of its innocence lately.

I liked Dekker’s tweet. Spike Albrecht had a couple of goodies as well.
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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2018, 03:22:53 PM »
I don’t know that good is the word that comes to mind for me.

It’s not concerning that one of the main guys caught up in this is categorized from the documents as:

“documents indicate that Dawkins spent considerable time in contact with the Bridges family and with Spartans assistant coach Dwayne Stephens.”

If the guy is proposing dirty business why not tell him to bug off? Why is an open line between the two being presented here.

I don’t see an Arizona like smoking gun, but this strong connectivity with this runner doesn’t smell right.

I need to stick with NCAA DIII fandom. Although, even that is losing some of its innocence lately.

I liked Dekker’s tweet. Spike Albrecht had a couple of goodies as well.
He's the son of the long time Saginaw HS coach.  His family is Michigan basketball royalty.  His brother died of a heart issue at an MSU basketball camp, and Izzo spent the night with his dad at the hospital.
I come back to he pitched something to two schools.  Neither NBA player he wanted signed with him.  The kid he was selling wound up at neither school.  I feel pretty damn good about that.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2018, 03:47:09 PM »
Fair enough. I don’t know the HS / AAU Michigan hoops scene at all. 

Eastern’s coach pops up too. And it is implied that he reached out tot he runner over an NBA guy he has.

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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2018, 05:05:19 PM »
I asked above though, because I don't know.  Is that a violation?  Tons of guys have handlers.  If a handler tells a school he can deliver a kid if the school convinces an alum playing in the NBA to sign with a certain guy, what's the violation?  I truly don't know
Again, I don't know if not reporting is a violation. Probably not. 
And honestly I'm not even suggesting that MSU did anything wrong here. As you point out, neither of the pro players approached signed with his agency and Bowen didn't go to either school.
But it seems to me that reporting it would be one more defense against any later LOIC charge. "Hey, remember that time that our assistant was approached with this deal and we tipped you off to it? How can you now smack us with an LOIC because another assistant did something shady that we didn't know about?"
That said, the other point about Dawkins having significant MSU ties--particularly emotional ties due to his brother, maybe the MSU folks looked the other way because they didn't want to cause him problems. So maybe they just turned him down and walked away.
But that doesn't explain why the IU folks, who had no emotional relationship to Dawkins, didn't tip off the NCAA. 

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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2018, 05:25:29 PM »
Yeah, "good" was too strong a word.  You'd rather not be mentioned at all.  But being mentioned, and having enough specifics to verify if what was requested occurred, is best case scenario at that point.

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« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2018, 05:31:35 PM »
Maybe IU chose to not mention it because they have their own shit going on.

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« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2018, 05:32:56 PM »
I'm glad to know Bridges is playing tomorrow. I would just hope that the "facts" the NCAA reviewed were complete and thorough. If not, it could still come back to bite MSU.
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« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2018, 05:57:37 PM »
I'm glad to know Bridges is playing tomorrow. I would just hope that the "facts" the NCAA reviewed were complete and thorough. If not, it could still come back to bite MSU.
Yeah this doesn't mean anyone is in the clear, just resets the clock.  They won't be punished for playing him now, absent new info.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2018, 06:18:36 PM »
How about a head coach on the phone about $100,000 to deliver a player?  lol
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« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2018, 06:34:10 PM »
I also imagine the Grateful Red will be ruthless, and I think when it comes to even a sniff of NCAA improprieties, those are fair game for opposing fans.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2018, 07:44:09 PM »
How about a head coach on the phone about $100,000 to deliver a player?  lol
head coach or assistant
if there's truly an offer for 6 figures the NCAA should bring the hammer
don't know how they quantify that if the kid doesn't accept, but............
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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2018, 09:20:25 PM »
ESPN reported Miller had been fired, and within minutes reported he hadn't.

Shocker that Yahoo lapped them on this one after they fired every journalist they had to keep Steven A Smith

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2018, 09:31:08 AM »
Dickie V ragged on the dirtiness of coaching and college basketball last night. 

A few minutes following that he was hyping the Duke recruiting class next year with the 1,2, and 3 recruits in the country coming in. No recognition of the fact that A could be connected to B. Or that the constant promotion of B creates A.

Now that the dirty laundry is aired out over the next month, I am more interested in what the solutions are. And for the simple-minded that say pay the players, I would be more curious on the mechanics of how that works. men vs women, power 5 vs non, revenue vs non revenue sport. And if not paying players how do we fix and enforce the current environment? 

 

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