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Topic: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2018, 04:37:10 PM »
Whether you like the "Super Bowl" cliché or not, it is quite commonplace in colloquial CFB vernacular. I used it with far more clarity than your rebuke of it, which was vague and confusing as all get out.

"Lol" and "UM is MSU's Ohio State" are the exact antithesis of expressing your distaste of that term with clarity. 
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2018, 04:41:41 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 16, 2018, 04:37:10 PM
Whether you like the "Super Bowl" cliché or not, it is quite commonplace in colloquial CFB vernacular. I used it with far more clarity than your rebuke of it, which was vague and confusing as all get out.

"Lol" and "UM is MSU's Ohio State" are the exact antithesis of expressing your distaste of that term with clarity.
I'm sorry the meaning "UM is MSU's Ohio State" in response to "UM is MSU's Super Bowl" wasn't clear to you.  I clarified.

And yes, it is common place, when used correctly.  UM was our Super Bowl when we were 3-9 and had nothing to play for but pride.  But saying UM IS our Super Bowl is just flat wrong.  It's not a matter of not liking the cliche, it's a matter of using the cliche correctly that I disagreed with.  MSU has played in enough much bigger games than a rivalry game over the past decade, that going with that narrative there is lazy and outdated....you know like Michigan football.  :)
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2018, 05:07:52 PM »

Oh okay. Sounds fair. 

**smiles, nods, backs away slowly**
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2018, 05:28:14 PM »
MSU hates UM as much as UM hates tOSU. I thought that was easy to figure out.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2018, 05:38:11 PM »
Quote from: Reyd on October 16, 2018, 05:28:14 PM
MSU hates UM as much as UM hates tOSU. I thought that was easy to figure out.

I'm not sure hate is the right word for M-OSU. I'm not being cute "about needing a bigger, darker word" or anything either. It's intense but generally respectful.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2018, 05:52:12 PM »
Players have much more respect for their opponents than most fans do.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2018, 06:22:13 PM »
Quote from: Reyd on October 16, 2018, 05:52:12 PM
Players have much more respect for their opponents than most fans do.
I'm not sure how much respect there is between M and MSU. Whenever I watch it looks like the dirtiest contest in CFB that year.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2018, 10:39:44 PM »
Quote from: Reyd on October 16, 2018, 05:52:12 PM
Players have much more respect for their opponents than most fans do.
not sure the fans or players for Michigan-Sparty respect one another.
Michigan-OSU is just different. It's not comparable. At all.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2018, 10:47:07 PM »
again...this game scares the hell out of me. Leaning towards Sparty unfortunately. Just not a believer in Jim Harbaugh on the road. The outcome of this game could be a big difference in how Michigan's season unfolds rolling into Columbus for the final game of the season. They win this one, they're rolling into Columbus 10-1. I'm supremely confident of that.

Lose it? That craters the entire season. They'll be 6-2 and down in the dumps mentally and emotionally and that 6-2 could turn into 6-3 or 6-4 before you know it.

This is the most important game of the season. It's a make or break game. Win it. You're 10-1 rolling into C-bus with a chance to play for it all. Lose it? Bye bye birdie.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2018, 11:40:28 PM »
I'm torn between MSU by 3 or less or UM by 14+.

The points are irrelevant to me, I don't see a UM win that fails to cover.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #66 on: October 17, 2018, 02:22:18 AM »
As goes Detroit so goes the nation (1930s). As goes Detroit so goes Michigan (1960s). As goes Detroit so goes Detroit (current).  
Detroit is Detroit. Everything outside Detroit and it's sphere of influence is Michigan. That makes UofM Detroit and MSU Michigan. Detroit held economic influence over the state and slighted everything outside of it and it's influence including MSU. That is the emotion MSU taps into for the rivalry. That makes it a little closer to home and primal.
My opinion and mine alone.
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #67 on: October 17, 2018, 07:29:38 AM »
Quote from: ELA on October 16, 2018, 11:40:28 PM
I'm torn between MSU by 3 or less or UM by 14+.

The points are irrelevant to me, I don't see a UM win that fails to cover.
So "NO WAY" in other words
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #68 on: October 17, 2018, 07:33:05 AM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on October 16, 2018, 06:22:13 PM
I'm not sure how much respect there is between M and MSU. Whenever I watch it looks like the dirtiest contest in CFB that year.
Quote from: Mdot21 on October 16, 2018, 10:39:44 PM
not sure the fans or players for Michigan-Sparty respect one another.
That's why this game is watched for it's fire & intensity,like Bama-Auburn or Fla-Fl.St use to be and will be again.In state rivals have a hatred all their own.Of course Mike Hart bumping his gums and the arrival of MD have ratched things up
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Re: #6 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-1, 4-2) Game Week
« Reply #69 on: October 17, 2018, 07:45:34 AM »
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