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Topic: 2018 Recruiting Thread

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847badgerfan

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #322 on: February 08, 2018, 04:04:32 PM »
New hire at a helmet school isn't tied to a track record.  As long as the prestige of the coach and the school is high, selling that hope that Notre Dame/Michigan/Nebraska/Texas, etc.. is BACK is time after time a foolproof recruiting pitch.  You can sell, "yeah, we haven't been winning like Alabama, but we used to, and now that I'm here, we will again."  You've got a couple years to translate that to results, or it wanes.
So, what are you saying, really?

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #323 on: February 08, 2018, 04:35:08 PM »
So, what are you saying, really?

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Nothing more than I expected Frost to come out like gangbusters on the recruiting trail.  Just like I expected Harbaugh to.  Just like I expected Herman to.  Nobody else is Bama right now, so nobody but Bama can sell results like that.  But when you get a helmet school, that makes a perceived hoem run hire, they, at least for a couple years, can sell recruits that they might be on the verge of being Bama.

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #324 on: February 08, 2018, 04:44:26 PM »


So Nebraska will definitely be "back" before Michigan? 
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #325 on: February 08, 2018, 04:55:01 PM »
you could be very correct about Frost using his momentum and "splash" for this first class

but, it didn't work that well for Bill Callahan, Bo Pelini, or Mike Riley

and none of them sold out the spring game
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #326 on: February 08, 2018, 05:08:01 PM »
you could be very correct about Frost using his momentum and "splash" for this first class

but, it didn't work that well for Bill Callahan, Bo Pelini, or Mike Riley

and none of them sold out the spring game
I didn't consider any of those splash hires.  Just like UM with Hoke, or Tennessee with Pruitt.  Or, in fairness Tressell with Ohio State.  Splash or not splash doesn't necessarily mean ultimately good or bad.

I think the sold out spring game tells you how much more confidence the fan base (rightfully so) has in this hire compared to those.

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #327 on: February 08, 2018, 05:11:01 PM »
yup, and it's a bit silly

a year ago, no one thought Scott Frost was the next Tom Osborne

one good season at UCF and he's a superstar?
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #328 on: February 08, 2018, 05:46:21 PM »
Not much going on in Lincoln on Saturday's, or what.

Jeesh. 90K+ for a scrimmage?

Go to the Lake or something.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #329 on: February 08, 2018, 06:39:30 PM »
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #330 on: February 08, 2018, 07:15:25 PM »
Subjective yes, but they have shown correlation to results for sure.  
Correlation is not the same as causation.  It's also certainly possible that the types of coaches that bring in top recruiting classes are also the types of coaches that are simply good at coaching the game, hence the positive results.  Or any number of other variables I don't care enough to discuss or explore.
But yeah, like I already said, I'd always rather get good player than bad players.  And if a player gets offers from Alabama, Southern Cal, Oklahoma, and Ohio State, there's a decent chance he's going to succeed at those schools, or any other school he chooses to attend. Not because he has a certain number of stars next to his name, but because several successful programs with proven track records of talent evaluation have independently made the decision that he's worth an offer.

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #331 on: February 08, 2018, 07:19:18 PM »
I see Nebraska did a nice job with recruiting. Rivals has them #21. Rivals had Nebraska at #20 a year ago. It's difficult to hire a new staff, coach a New Years Day Bowl for another team, and recruit. I don't know how you do it.

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #332 on: February 08, 2018, 07:54:26 PM »
not much sleep for the new Husker staff

Frost said the offensive staff gets next week off, the defensive staff the following week and he is going to Orlando to spend time with his family for a while
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #333 on: February 08, 2018, 09:15:07 PM »
Maryland finished up their class full of 7th team B1G  talent. 

Long summer to wait for who will get injured for the season. 

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #334 on: February 09, 2018, 01:20:07 AM »
Maryland finished up their class full of 7th team B1G  talent.

Long summer to wait for who will get injured for the season.
Maryland seems to have done well in recruiting.
How are the 2017 QBs recovering? Will Maryland play a tight end at QB? Are there other injured personnel returning?
The Twerps get to play the Hawkeyes, who had 66 yards total offense against Wisconsin in 2017. If Maryland were not the Twerps, then the Hawkeyes Offense which was No. 116, would qualify as Twerps.

Anyway . . . if Maryland has a defense, they could probably stop Iowa. But, Iowa has a defense.  Send some scouting material on the Twerp offense and defense from someone in the know.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #335 on: February 09, 2018, 10:04:35 AM »
maybe it's my poor memory, but didn't the Hawkeyes start out this recruiting class like gangbusters?  multiple 4 stars verballed? maybe even a 5 star?
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