UT at UF

[VolRage]

One thing is clear, Kelly is a beast and should consider transferring before Butch's mediocrity and losing ways rub off on him.

[Drew4UTk]

i saw receivers get hit right in the hands several times and drop... i saw a QB who is demonstrating the same problems as he has all season- staring down receivers, not checking off, throwing into traffic... it cost him today. 

the defense either isn't as bad as i thought they were, or- the UF offense is really really bad. 

i can't blame CBJ for bad decisions, but i can question the playcalls as could anyone with eyes.  

here is the thing, and the thing that KILLS me (and I mentioned it earlier) : 

when UT was down in the fourth, they caught up... just like they did in Atlanta... just like they did several times last season... how?  why? ask yourselves? 

my answer: they played with nothing to lose.  when they do that, which is rare in a competitive game, they can play with anyone.... when it isn't a competitive game, they play soft.  they play soft to start until the game's personality is decided... only when they are behind and are playing with reckless abandon do we see UT come to life.  every. dang. time.  playing soft in a competitive game almost lost us Appy... it lost us Arky... it lost us aTm... it almost lost us GT... it lost us today. 

a 'great' team can play however they want because they have the ponies to pony up whenever and put points on the board... UT still plays like they are a great team.  they aren't.  they've got to earn that right again.  they haven't.  

the question is:  will they ever be able to assume that posture again?   

[OrangeAfroMan]

One thing is clear, Kelly is a beast and should consider transferring before Butch's mediocrity and losing ways rub off on him.

I had this thought in the 3rd quarter, but I didn't want to post it and look like a jerk.  But I genuinely had the same thought.

[VolRage]

Drew, Not with Butch holding the reigns. I usually defend Butch or at the very least support him to some extent. But I'm done with that. Most of our players played well enough the win (excluding QB and WR's) but Butch's X's and O's leave a lot to be desired. He must go and he would if TN wasn't so damn cheap and continually wants to shop from the blue light special cart in hopes of luckily obtaining a great up and coming coach that they can get for nothing. Most of the time you get what you pay for.

[Drew4UTk]

i may be overly emotional right now... however, i just read my prediction again... i invite y'all to, as well.... we got the smelly end of the stick, but the prediction was crazy accurate and.... pisses me off.. what i feared from UT, we got. 

[Kingsvol]

Butch says Kelly heart and soul of this team in post game.  Someone should ask why does the heart and soul not get a touch with the ball on the goal line on either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd down?  Coaching by Butch sucks. 

[OrangeAfroMan]

UT didn't actually run an official play from the 1 yard line, did they?  There was the false start and they immediately moved back to the 6.

*on an unrelated note - I'm watching Clemson-Louisville, and either of them would curb-stomp Florida right now, but to me, this isn't football.  Maybe I'm getting too old or whatever, but ugh.  UL has 11 identically-sized athletes playing something poorly disguised as defense, and Clemson is just hiking the ball so fast that it's an attrition game, not one of skill or strategy.

[MikeDeTiger]

That was a lot more exciting than I expect UT/UF to be.  Heartbreaker for UT I'm sure, thrilling for UF.  

I am not a Vol fan but a very curious thing happened.  I found myself very frustrated and irritated with quite a number of things UT did in that game.  I never felt more vindicated than when Callaway got the ball down to the half yard line late, and I told my gf that he should've scored because I didn't trust UT to get the ball in the end zone from there at all.  And they didn't.  

[OrangeAfroMan]

Georgia fans don't ever seem to forecast a 'W' for the Florida game, even when UGA is supposed to be much better.  This is due to the Dawgs going 6-20 vs the Gators since 1990.  Makes sense.

Are UT fans getting to be that way?  Not just the number of losses to Florida, but the way you've lost.  Are you just kind of done with predicting a 'W'?  The Vols are also 6-20 vs the Gators in that time, but in the past 5 years....2 losses led by UF's backup QB and 2 last-second 63-yard TD passes by Florida for the win.

I guess what I'm asking is where your head is at when it comes to UT vs UF....?

[VolRage]

In my mind, UF is no different than Vandy or any other team that we play. I go into each game thinking there is a possibility we will lose. I could give two shits about UF, any recent record they may have against the Vols, or any mystic people may presume they have due to recent history. Simply put, UT sucks because they are too damn cheap to hire a real coach.
When people think of the Florida Gators they remember the Spurrier and Meyer days. When people think of Bama people think of Bear Bryant and now Nick Saban. When people think of Tennessee Vols they think of Phillip Fulmer and if you know TN history they think of General Neyland.
My point, Florida is where they are today because of recent hires since 1990 that have propelled them. Both of which were better coaches than any coach TN has had since Neyland. Florida will spend the money to get the best coach they can within reason. TN shops from the Blue Light Special cart in an attempt to get lucky all while in reality hiring mediocre coaches to remain middle of the road making us "champions of life" but never a division or conference champion. That's where the Vols are today. Middle of the road to bottom of the barrel SECE has been's.

[MikeDeTiger]

At least you didn't hire a coach who's only track record is a 10-25 record in a 3 year stint.